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Just in case anybody was wondering. S5 USB Audio out works .. Hooray !
I haven't extensively tested how much better the audio sounds with USB vs directly from headphone.
My setup
S5 >> USB OTG Cable >> USB Cable to my hippo cricri Amp >> Headphones out.
In case you were wondering, s3 and s4 LTE+ didn't support that. The Note 3 did.
I use s3 us cellular version and works with fiio e17. The same for s4 lte 9505 and note 3.
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I use s3 us cellular version and works with fiio e17. The same for s4 lte 9505 and note 3.
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you're right.. If I remember correctly the Fiio e17 was one of the few dac that works with the s3 and the s4... However, the s3/s4 couldn't work with the bulk of the other dacs, but the note 3 had no problems.
Wonder if I could hookup threw the USB on my Kenwood deck.
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Wonder if I could hookup threw the USB on my Kenwood deck.
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That is SO exactly my thought. I love how simple my iPhone would plug into that and I could control it with the stereo, charge it, etc. Can't wait to try this in the morning.
what the headphone out like on the S5 , I normally use a JDS Labs C5D with my S4.
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what the headphone out like on the S5 , I normally use a JDS Labs C5D with my S4.
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Mine doesn't seem to be working. Any way to troubleshoot the issue?
I have a nuforce udac3
This is exactly what I'm looking for to handle noise when I fly. Just using a LOD from my iPod and iPhone into a low cost Cmoy a few years back made a difference in quality, so getting the digital out of my S5 would be sweet. Previous Androids (the Note and Dell Streak) had low output, at least for my aged Shures. I couldn't hear well over the engine noise in my crappy seats.
Anyone have it working with a portable DAC Amp? I've been looking for a reason to buy a new travel amp and 'phones. I'd like a lower cost amp as losing/damaging it is a real possibility.
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This is exactly what I'm looking for to handle noise when I fly. Just using a LOD from my iPod and iPhone into a low cost Cmoy a few years back made a difference in quality, so getting the digital out of my S5 would be sweet. Previous Androids (the Note and Dell Streak) had low output, at least for my aged Shures. I couldn't hear well over the engine noise in my crappy seats.
Anyone have it working with a portable DAC Amp? I've been looking for a reason to buy a new travel amp and 'phones. I'd like a lower cost amp as losing/damaging it is a real possibility.
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Emailed nuforce, this is the response;
We can't confirm any reports that the uDac-2 will work for any Android device, because we don't support it. However, it is experimental, and it might be possible.
The uDac-3 is different than the uDac-2. It will not work on Android because Android does not currently support asynchronous USB playback. The uDac-2 is synchronous, which is standard, and the uDac-3 is asynchronous, and requires OEM drivers for Windows, but Mac OS supports it natively.
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Bought this from eBay for 99p http://www.ebay.com/itm/310964760519 and it's just freaking amazing how much better it sounds through the headphones, and the controls on it actually control the volume and mute of the phone like the original headphones do.
Nice thread, but the USB audio out worked just fine for me on the S3 and S4.
Sounds like your DAC wasn't compatible with those models. Or vice versa as the case may have been.
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USB Audio worked fine on my S3 and S4 as long as it was a touchwiz based ROM and the setting for usb-audio was enabled. However, the setting is missing (or moved?) on my S5.
Did those who got it to work just plug it in with an OTG cable and have it work? Or did you enable USB-audio out? If I recall, that setting was part of the DockMode settings, which Samsung removed.
BTW, the portable amp I'm using is a cheap one recommended on some Hi-Fi forums. It's found on eBay, called ELE HI-FI 01.
I got some nice over the ear bluetooth 4.1 headphones today, and none of the audio from videos I watch on my phone, sync with the headphones. When I plug the headphones directly into the phone, the audio is fine. Anything bluetooth it is about a half a second to a second off.
Is there any way to fix it? They are the JBL 700 Elite headphones.
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I got some nice over the ear bluetooth 4.1 headphones today, and none of the audio from videos I watch on my phone, sync with the headphones. When I plug the headphones directly into the phone, the audio is fine. Anything bluetooth it is about a half a second to a second off.
Is there any way to fix it? They are the JBL 700 Elite headphones.
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Doubt it. If I play YouTube or something in my car, the audio is of sync as well.
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Doubt it. If I play YouTube or something in my car, the audio is of sync as well.
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So basically keep bluetooth for music, plug in for video?
its an issue with your headphones. same thing happens with Beats. for some reason watching video using BT creates a audio sync issue... but its not on every headphones.
I don't have any issues with the BT in my car or with my BT headphones. I'm using Samsungs Level U Pro headphones for when I'm at the gym, and they work perfectly, so maybe its your phone that is having the issue?
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So basically keep bluetooth for music, plug in for video?
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Prolly.
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I don't have any issues with the BT in my car or with my BT headphones. I'm using Samsungs Level U Pro headphones for when I'm at the gym, and they work perfectly, so maybe its your phone that is having the issue?
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I am talking about video though. Are you testing it with YouTube, Plex, or a local video?
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I am talking about video though. Are you testing it with YouTube, Plex, or a local video?
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YouTube works fine too I should have clarified that.
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YouTube works fine too I should have clarified that.
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Well crap... maybe I have to get Samsung headphones?
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I'll verify that again when I get home, but I don't remember seeing any audio lag. To be fair the level on U Pro headphones are nice so who knows. I'll let you know in a few hours.
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I have LG HBS-730 that I use at work (listen to music, "watch" videos, take calls, etc.) and tested against a number of locally stored (on SD card) video files ranging from low-bandwidth copies of amateur mountain bike videos, to DVD rips of movies (like 5th Element), to a couple 4K video samples. Also tried couple youtube (Danny McAskill Imaginate, some Red Bull Rampage stuff, and one cat video). No apparent sync issues.
Not saying others don't have issues, but it doesn't seem unilaterally broken to me.
My is the US AT&T GS7 Edge, I have a Lexar Professional 1000x 128Gb SD card installed, encryption is DISABLED on the SD card.
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I'll verify that again when I get home, but I don't remember seeing any audio lag. To be fair the level on U Pro headphones are nice so who knows. I'll let you know in a few hours.
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FIXED! Apparently there was a huge firmware update recently that fixed this issue. I was holding down the wrong keys to get it to accept firmware.
All is well now
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FIXED! Apparently there was a huge firmware update recently that fixed this issue. I was holding down the wrong keys to get it to accept firmware.
All is well now
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What model S7E do you have? or was it headphone firmware? I just tested mine again and there's 0 lag
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What model S7E do you have? or was it headphone firmware? I just tested mine again and there's 0 lag
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The black Verizon version - the firmware was for the headphones . Finally, GearVR feels like iMax!
i have this issue with my beats wireless and v-moda wireless both expensive headphone works fine with my iphone...but out of sync for me on my samsung ...its even in sync on my desktop lol
Hi!
I have the same Problems not only with te s7e still with the s4 and the Tab 4 and S2 any solution?
Thanks
I'm thinking to buy one for my poco but I heard that it cannot be used on some devices. wanna know if it's okay with poco f1?
here's how it's look.
Works just fine. The buttons dont work as advertised. I'm on lineage.
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Works just fine. The buttons dont work as advertised. I'm on lineage.
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Why?
The phone has a headphone jack, and there are a lot of great earphones you can buy..
Coming from Pixel OG what adapter/dongle does everyone recommend getting?
I use the dongle from my pixel 2. That works fine.
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I have been happy with this, I think it sounds better than the stock one.
Soditer Pixel 2 Headphone Adapter,USB C to 3.5mm Adapter,USB C Dongle Headpone Jack Has Realtek DAC Hi-Res, Type c Earphone Convert for Pixel 2/2XL/3/3XL, MacBook 2017 IPad Pro 2018, Moto Z2, OnePlus https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LC9SCGC/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_dbcTDbGXE3X5N
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I have been happy with this, I think it sounds better than the stock one.
Soditer Pixel 2 Headphone Adapter,USB C to 3.5mm Adapter,USB C Dongle Headpone Jack Has Realtek DAC Hi-Res, Type c Earphone Convert for Pixel 2/2XL/3/3XL, MacBook 2017 IPad Pro 2018, Moto Z2, OnePlus https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LC9SCGC/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_dbcTDbGXE3X5N
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You can score Apple's dongle at Target for $9.00ish
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You can score Apple's dongle at Target for $9.00ish
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I read from other post they are quiet and not as loud as google one or some other brands. Cant seem to get a definite answer.
I got this one. Works pretty good and I like it's form. Feels pretty sturdy.
CHILISON USB C to 3.5mm Headphone Adapter, Type C to Aux Audio Cable Compatible with Google Pixel 2/Pixel 3/XL/iPad Pro 2018, Essential Phone and More USB C Devices https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WYWTKK2/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_XHyTDbFKGZMN3
IBasso dc02 if u care about sound quality more
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I read from other post they are quiet and not as loud as google one or some other brands. Cant seem to get a definite answer.
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That is confirmed. Definitely more quiet (apple). Purchased one the other day, to get reasonable sound you have to have the media volume at maximum.
Then I went and purchased the google version and the same sound on the same headphones, it was only half volume.
Does anyone know if the DAC using the Google dongle is any better than it was with the Pixel 2? With my P2XL plugged into a powered studio monitor the overall volume was low and it clipped horribly with the phone volume more than about 75% making it essentially useless for audio playback in this way. I'm hoping they've improved either the phone audio output or the capability of the dongle.
I tried reusing my OnePlus USB-C to 3.5 dongle and my Pixel 4 XL does not like it. Looking for a replacement.
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IBasso dc02 if u care about sound quality more
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I have shure se535 so audio quality definitely something I want.
ibasso dc02 is so expensive in Canada to order from Amazon qq
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I tried reusing my OnePlus USB-C to 3.5 dongle and my Pixel 4 XL does not like it. Looking for a replacement.
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Ditto. Can't use the one from my old Moto Z.
I bought a new Google dongle (the $12 one) and it works great. The problem I was having was the dongle that came with my P2XL. Using it on both the new and old phone, same results. Using the new dongle on both phones, both sound great with plenty of volume. Best $12 I've ever spent on audio equipment. 8-D
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I have shure se535 so audio quality definitely something I want.
ibasso dc02 is so expensive in Canada to order from Amazon qq
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Try the Razer phone dongle. It was good with the Pixel 2XL, haven't tried it with the 4XL as I lost that dongle, but I'm gonna be re-ordering one as a backup to my iBasso dc02.
picked up one of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SM5MQN8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 that allows charging and music playback
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picked up one of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07SM5MQN8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 that allows charging and music playback
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How is the audio quality on it? does it work with calls?
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I got this one. Works pretty good and I like it's form. Feels pretty sturdy.
CHILISON USB C to 3.5mm Headphone Adapter, Type C to Aux Audio Cable Compatible with Google Pixel 2/Pixel 3/XL/iPad Pro 2018, Essential Phone and More USB C Devices https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WYWTKK2/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_XHyTDbFKGZMN3
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I have a different brand, but the same style and I love then and they do work on the Pixel 4XL
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IBasso dc02 if u care about sound quality more
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Thanks for the recommendation @pixelsquish
I just got one of the iBasso DC02 from HiFiGo
OMG... what a frigg'n amazing little piece of tech!!!
ViPER4Android + Bose QC20 + iBasso DC02 = Amazing audio experience
The iBasso DC02 is a little spendy. But I wouldn't hesitate for a second to buy another, if I have to.
The Apple dongle, that I picked up at an airport kiosk, is now in the junk drawer. It'll due in a pinch (ie. for a phone call). But the difference between the Apple dongle and the iBasso is stunning.
Hint - I found a nice little review here, where there's a coupon code for a few bucks discount.
Has anyone tried the Moshi model from Google's store?
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Thanks for the recommendation @pixelsquish
I just got one of the iBasso DC02 from HiFiGo
OMG... what a frigg'n amazing little piece of tech!!!
ViPER4Android + Bose QC20 + iBasso DC02 = Amazing audio experience
The iBasso DC02 is a little spendy. But I wouldn't hesitate for a second to buy another, if I have to.
The Apple dongle, that I picked up at an airport kiosk, is now in the junk drawer. It'll due in a pinch (ie. for a phone call). But the difference between the Apple dongle and the iBasso is stunning.
Hint - I found a nice little review here, where there's a coupon code for a few bucks discount.
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Fantastic! Really glad you liked it. I listen to my Meze Rai Penta through the IBasso and it's gorgeous for a mobile phone solution
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What's going on 8T friends? I was hoping you guys might have some input and/or recommendations for a *GOOD* headphone dongle...one that has been tested to work without issue, specifically with this phone - the OnePlus 8T.
I want to start by apologizing for the super long-winded post!!! I also want to preface this by saying there is a possibility my issue may not lie w/ my current adapter, but possibly w/ my car's (old) aftermarket head unit...though I think it's unlikely given its never had an issue w/ any other phone or dongle.
*EDIT: I suppose it's also possible that there's some firmware issue & perhaps an update might resolve it, but I'm at the mercy of T-Mobile US & their *SLOW* update schedule. International phones have had like 4 updates in a month, & we've only had the day one update (still no AOD!).
I know it should be something super simple and there's likely many, *MANY* similar threads in other devices' forums, along w/ OnePlus Community & Reddit as well. But *please*, just hear me out. I feel like a dumb**s for even having to post this. There's crazy inconsistency w/ what's supposed to be a f***ing universal standard...this s**t is far from working universally!
I've had experience with 3 separate models of adapter w/ my previous phone, the OnePlus *7 Pro* (on Android 10). With the 7 Pro, I found that the Essential Phone's dongle worked flawlessly in every scenario I need it for. It's less expensive than the official Oneplus branded one, & generally just of better quality, w/ a thicker braided cable. I also had the official a OnePlus dongle which also worked perfectly w/ my old 7 Pro, but I lost the damn thing...plus, it's just too expensive, & OnePlus doesn't even have it in stock?!?! I also used the Apple dongle - surprisingly cheaper than OnePlus' dongle, but the volume level was permanently way too low, w/ no way to resolve that (I tried for nearly a month). The Apple one has long since been returned.
I am currently still using the Essential dongle as it's the only one I haven't yet lost or returned, but I'm running into a strange issue on both my phone & my girl's 8T as well (both are T-Mobile branded 8Ts, the "8T+5G", which is the exact same hardware the rest of the world gets, just w/ different firmware). The Essential dongle is flawless w/ the 7 Pro, & also flawless when just plugging it in to regular headphones - but when hooking it up to an aux cable & plugging it into our car's old, aftermarket head unit to play music or videos, there is a completely random/intermittent issue where whatever app is playing audio will pause itself, & then more often than not it'll also start making this crazy, strange, squealing distortion sound...but no longer any actual audio. This occurs regardless of what app we're using to play music or videos (YouTube Music, regular YouTube, Spotify, etc.). It seems to be totally random, sometimes working fine for a bit, but then going completely haywire...and once it's starts happening, it just won't quit. Sometimes switching to another app will start it, sometimes an incoming text message will start it, & sometimes it'll do it all by itself. This happens w/ USB OTG enabled or disabled, & I've tested it w/ 3 separate aux cables.
I'm at a loss, & I just wanted to get someone else's input before buying like 5 random ones of Amazon or eBay. We're at the point where we're just listening to old CDs because we can't stream anything current, & we're too broke to replace a head unit just to find that's not even the issue. *THIS IS ABSOLUTELY MADDENING*.
I would just buy the OnePlus dongle again, but they can't be bothered to keep it in inventory...at least for customers in the US. Any thoughts at all on what the issue could be would be infinitely appreciated, asking w/ dongle recommendations as well of course.
*THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME RAMBLE!!!*
Moto Z3 headset adapter (analog) will work
I have one
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Moto Z3 headset adapter (analog) will work
I have one
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Thank you so much for your reply. I noticed you mentioned analog. Do you think the issue might be from the Essential one being active? That never occurred to me...I always assumed active ones would be better, instead of relying on the phone's DAC. You might be on to something there! Thanks again
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I went to best buy and tested the Google and apple dongles. . The apple one sounded great but suffered from the low volume issue. The Google one sounded great and had no low volume issue. I kept that one. Returned the apple one.
It works flawlessly. Is $12. It also has a great Soundstage and volume. No problems here in anyway.
Also, just as a heads up, I use it with PowerAmp and it sounds great really. I have a lg v20 for when I want the best sound but this does the trick for when I'm just trying to not have a million peripherals.
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I went to best buy and tested the Google and apple dongles. . The apple one sounded great but suffered from the low volume issue. The Google one sounded great and had no low volume issue. I kept that one. Returned the apple one.
It works flawlessly. Is $12. It also has a great Soundstage and volume. No problems here in anyway.
Also, just as a heads up, I use it with PowerAmp and it sounds great really. I have a lg v20 for when I want the best sound but this does the trick for when I'm just trying to not have a million peripherals.
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Thanks for your suggestions. ?
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moSess said:
I went to best buy and tested the Google and apple dongles. . The apple one sounded great but suffered from the low volume issue. The Google one sounded great and had no low volume issue. I kept that one. Returned the apple one.
It works flawlessly. Is $12. It also has a great Soundstage and volume. No problems here in anyway.
Also, just as a heads up, I use it with PowerAmp and it sounds great really. I have a lg v20 for when I want the best sound but this does the trick for when I'm just trying to not have a million peripherals.
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Edit: @mingkee , I meant to reply to you here. My fault. XDA Labs kind of sucks.
I just wanted to let you know I pulled the trigger and bought a two pack of the Moto dongle you suggested off Amazon for less than $9...and you were right!!! So, many, many thanks to you kind sir/ma'am/whatever.
I've been in the car for half and hour trying to do anything I can to force that issue upon myself, and it just doesn't happen now! I really appreciate you!
My infinite appreciation to you. ?
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Moto Z3 headset adapter (analog) will work
I have one
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You were right, they worked! I replied to you to explain my current (excellent) experience with the Moto dongle (in my previous post above), but replied to the wrong person/comment because of my user error and XDA Labs sucking on mobile. But seriously, thank you!!!
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It's just a heads-up
Apple headset with lightning plug with Anker USB-C to lightning combo also works well with Poweramp custom output setting
Sound is distorted with default settings, but when you use the following settings, you will love this combo
DVC enabled
OpenSL Hi res having USB DAC enabled
Press the gear and bypass EQ
I wondered why I didn't purchase Poweramp license?
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Edit: @mingkee , I meant to reply to you here. My fault. XDA Labs kind of sucks.
I just wanted to let you know I pulled the trigger and bought a two pack of the Moto dongle you suggested off Amazon for less than $9...and you were right!!! So, many, many thanks to you kind sir/ma'am/whatever.
I've been in the car for half and hour trying to do anything I can to force that issue upon myself, and it just doesn't happen now! I really appreciate you!
My infinite appreciation to you. ?
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You were right, they worked! I replied to you to explain my current (excellent) experience with the Moto dongle (in my previous post above), but replied to the wrong person/comment because of my user error and XDA Labs sucking on mobile. But seriously, thank you!!!
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It's just a heads-up
Apple headset with lightning plug with Anker USB-C to lightning combo also works well with Poweramp custom output setting
Sound is distorted with default settings, but when you use the following settings, you will love this combo
DVC enabled
OpenSL Hi res having USB DAC enabled
Press the gear and bypass EQ
I wondered why I didn't purchase Poweramp license?
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Links to the 2 Pack please?!
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Links to the 2 Pack please?!
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This is what I bought. I guess they are what Moto include, and not made my Moto (rarely are any of these made by the phone manufacturers I think). Just ordered another 2 pack after receiving the 1st LOL. They get lost easy enough. I've been pushing it, trying to force any of my previous issues and they've been working like a champ for me.
Moto Z USB-C to 3.5mm Audio Headphone Adapter, Weudozue 2 Pack Type C Port to 3.5mm Aux Microphone Stereo Jack Connector Compatible with Motorola Moto Z,Huawei,Xiaomi,LeEco Le and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JZ5HXFB/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_fabt1_NHESFbBFG1FV2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
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https://www.amazon.com/Motorola-USB...Moto+z3+headset+adapter&qid=1605505191&sr=8-3
Note: analog ONLY
Both 8T and N10 are capable up to 24bit/384kHz with Poweramp both analog and digital out (digital adapter dependent)
I tested HTC adapter, Apple USB C audio adapter, Google USB C audio adapter, and Anker USB C to lightning audio adapter
All are capable 24bit/384kHz as well
Hello, I would like to ask, why with official original USBC to jack adapter is not listed 8T as compatible device?
OnePlus Type-C to 3.5mm Adapter
www.oneplus.com
I've tried very cheap premiumcord one and it's very noisy even without playing anything. So I would like to try original adapter, there isn't any different on oneplus site for 8 or 8T, why's that?
Thanks
Has anyone give an adapter like this a try?
USB Audio/Charge
sbcrumb said:
Has anyone give an adapter like this a try?
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Tried a few,would not recommend
Rebel021 said:
Tried a few,would not recommend
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Thanks, if anyone finds a working one let me know.
The one for Pixel (digital) is good also
24bit/384kHz supported
I've bought just generic from aliexpress, can't say much about it's sound quality as i don't use it
Just to add to this information, I purchased the Google USB C to 3.5 adapter and it works great. I also purchased this one off of Amazon and works equally as well. USB Type C to 3.5mm Female Headphone Jack Adapter
I went and bought a Samsung USB-C headphone adapter after I lost two previous OnePlus adapters with my 6T. Well, it worked flawlessly until I ended up losing it as well. Bought mine from BestBuy.