Hey guys,
Just wanted to know how many of you ditched the Xposed on marshmallow for the latest 7.1.1 Android based oxygenos?
Since we don't know when nougat will be supported by xposed, is staying on marshmallow worth it?
Even though most of the modules I use are more or less esthetical, there's one thing I can't live without - youtube background playback and ad block.
Share your thoughts!
Xposed over any OS without Xposed. I have never even flashed Nouget because I know its just a waste of time for me. Ive been on cm13 since the day it came out. DEC 11 2016.
If all you need is the youtube modules, there's modded youtube apps out now with adblock and background playback. Check it out here.
I've also packaged the app in a convenient Magisk module, which you can find here.
It works exactly like the xposed-modified YouTube app, but it works on Nougat.
Anova's Origin said:
If all you need is the youtube modules, there's modded youtube apps out now with adblock and background playback. Check it out here.
I've also packaged the app in a convenient Magisk module, which you can find here.
It works exactly like the xposed-modified YouTube app, but it works on Nougat.
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Hey Anova, what is this Magisk thingy you're talking about?
Also... For me The most important is gravitybox then come youtube modules and mock mock locations.
You think it's worth the upgrade? I personally never had a phone that would get updates so quickly or even at all. So I have no idea what to expect.. Would I have to reroot, reinstall recovery or it's all a piece of cake and only the exposed won't affect anything? Lemme know.
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Hey Anova, what is this Magisk thingy you're talking about?
Also... For me The most important is gravitybox then come youtube modules and mock mock locations.
You think it's worth the upgrade? I personally never had a phone that would get updates so quickly or even at all. So I have no idea what to expect.. Would I have to reroot, reinstall recovery or it's all a piece of cake and only the exposed won't affect anything? Lemme know.
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Magisk is a framework that allows you to make temporary changes to your /system partition at boot, without actually modifying the partition. It works by superimposing user-defined changes to files in /system during boot; changes are reverted to their stock state afterwards. These user-defined changes are loaded into Magisk through Magisk modules. While a lot of people may think it's similar to Xposed, they're really nothing alike. I mentioned Magisk for the YouTube app because it is merely convenient. You could manually replace the YouTube APK in system without any additional software, but Magisk will do it for you while applying all the correct permissions, etc. As a bonus, Magisk also includes its own rooting method that works, for the most part, as well as SuperSU. This means that you can flash only Magisk to root your phone (flashing SuperSU is optional and is really based on personal preference, Magisk will work with SuperSU if you flash that first).
Because of what Magisk is and how it works, it is not able to modify your device in the same way that Xposed can. This means that mods like gravitybox and mock mock locations cannot be implemented with Magisk. Technically, all Magisk modules can be installed without Magisk by manually editing/replacing things in the /system partition. What is special about it is that Magisk does these things systemlessly, meaning that (with the proper configurations), you can modify /system without triggering safetynet.
For the modified YouTube app I was talking about, that was actually modded and compiled as a stand-alone APK by someone on XDA. It does not alter your current YouTube app, but rather outright replaces it.
As for upgrading to Nougat, it's really up to personal choice. I personally never used Xposed for anything other than YouTube Adaway and Background Playback, and to top it off I rarely use YouTube on my phone anyways so upgrading was an easy choice for me. If you do end up wanting to upgrade, do the following:
1) Download the full ROM of whatever version of OOS you want to use (4.1.0 is the latest, on Android 7.1.1). Do not use the "Upgrade Phone" option in settings if you are already rooted or have modified anything in your /system partition, as it will cause problems.
2) Flash the full zip in TWRP, wipe cache/Dalvik, then immediately flash the latest Magisk.zip (from the main Magisk thread on XDA)
3) Boot, then download Magisk Manager from the Play Store
At this point, Magisk will have been fully installed and your phone should be rooted. You can confirm through the Magisk Manager app
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Magisk is a framework that allows you to make temporary changes to your /system partition at boot, without actually modifying the partition. It works by superimposing user-defined changes to files in /system during boot; changes are reverted to their stock state afterwards. These user-defined changes are loaded into Magisk through Magisk modules. While a lot of people may think it's similar to Xposed, they're really nothing alike. I mentioned Magisk for the YouTube app because it is merely convenient. You could manually replace the YouTube APK in system without any additional software, but Magisk will do it for you while applying all the correct permissions, etc. As a bonus, Magisk also includes its own rooting method that works, for the most part, as well as SuperSU. This means that you can flash only Magisk to root your phone (flashing SuperSU is optional and is really based on personal preference, Magisk will work with SuperSU if you flash that first).
Because of what Magisk is and how it works, it is not able to modify your device in the same way that Xposed can. This means that mods like gravitybox and mock mock locations cannot be implemented with Magisk. Technically, all Magisk modules can be installed without Magisk by manually editing/replacing things in the /system partition. What is special about it is that Magisk does these things systemlessly, meaning that (with the proper configurations), you can modify /system without triggering safetynet.
For the modified YouTube app I was talking about, that was actually modded and compiled as a stand-alone APK by someone on XDA. It does not alter your current YouTube app, but rather outright replaces it.
As for upgrading to Nougat, it's really up to personal choice. I personally never used Xposed for anything other than YouTube Adaway and Background Playback, and to top it off I rarely use YouTube on my phone anyways so upgrading was an easy choice for me. If you do end up wanting to upgrade, do the following:
1) Download the full ROM of whatever version of OOS you want to use (4.1.0 is the latest, on Android 7.1.1). Do not use the "Upgrade Phone" option in settings if you are already rooted or have modified anything in your /system partition, as it will cause problems.
2) Flash the full zip in TWRP, wipe cache/Dalvik, then immediately flash the latest Magisk.zip (from the main Magisk thread on XDA)
3) Boot, then download Magisk Manager from the Play Store
At this point, Magisk will have been fully installed and your phone should be rooted. You can confirm through the Magisk Manager app
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Thanks for such a detailed description of everything! You're the best! I seriously decided to upgrade tomorrow.
Just last couple questions before I do... Should I delete anything? Like xposed itself with it's modules, or does the system upgrade wipe everything itself? Should I perform any backups other than usual titanium ones?
Thanks in advance
Crishien said:
Thanks for such a detailed description of everything! You're the best! I seriously decided to upgrade tomorrow.
Just last couple questions before I do... Should I delete anything? Like xposed itself with it's modules, or does the system upgrade wipe everything itself? Should I perform any backups other than usual titanium ones?
Thanks in advance
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You should delete the Xposed modules prior to updating, as they are saved as user apps and will not be wiped with an upgrade. Delete the Xposed framework app as well for the same reason. Updating should erase all of the background stuff that the Xposed originally installed in /system. Take a nandroid prior to updating just in case.
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You should delete the Xposed modules prior to updating, as they are saved as user apps and will not be wiped with an upgrade. Delete the Xposed framework app as well for the same reason. Updating should erase all of the background stuff that the Xposed originally installed in /system. Take a nandroid prior to updating just in case.
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Thanks again, mate!
Is this the one I should download? https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/rom-oos4-0-nougat-op3t-leaked-t3523482
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Thanks again, mate!
Is this the one I should download? https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/rom-oos4-0-nougat-op3t-leaked-t3523482
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Yes, that will work. OnePlus has not yet released the official zip through their website at this time, otherwise I would advise you to use the official zip.
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Yes, that will work. OnePlus has not yet released the official zip through their website at this time, otherwise I would advise you to use the official zip.
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Great, thank you. Imma let you know how it goes later today.
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Yes, that will work. OnePlus has not yet released the official zip through their website at this time, otherwise I would advise you to use the official zip.
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Not sure if I did anything wrong or I'm just impatient... But I flashed the update successfully and deleted dalvik. But got stuck at boot logo. Been hanging like this for 15 minutes, phone got hot and drained half its juice. So I reverted for now.... I'll try again at home with a charger... ?
954wrecker said:
Xposed over any OS without Xposed. I have never even flashed Nouget because I know its just a waste of time for me. Ive been on cm13 since the day it came out. DEC 11 2016.
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what can xposed do that you actually need that you can't do with magisk?
EuEra said:
what can xposed do that you actually need that you can't do with magisk?
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I don't think magisk can handle what xposed can handle.
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I don't think magisk can handle what xposed can handle.
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Indeed I will miss gravitybox. But if there is any other way to make my buttons do what I like which is (on the left - menu button with double tap for previous app/ home is home and recents on long press / right is back.)
Other than that it's all purely visual enhancement such as perfect color bar, media visualizer, and ****.
On the other hand I've just encountered a slight difficulty... Magisk won't work properly if I had Supersu previously installed, right?
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Indeed I will miss gravitybox. But if there is any other way to make my buttons do what I like which is (on the left - menu button with double tap for previous app/ home is home and recents on long press / right is back.)
Other than that it's all purely visual enhancement such as perfect color bar, media visualizer, and ****.
On the other hand I've just encountered a slight difficulty... Magisk won't work properly if I had Supersu previously installed, right?
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What are you gaining if I may ask? I have never tried 7.0 or magisk because I see ZERO benefit and Id lose all my favorite modules.
954wrecker said:
What are you gaining if I may ask? I have never tried 7.0 or magisk because I see ZERO benefit and Id lose all my favorite modules.
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That's what I wanna find out. I wanna see what's the new Android about. And I'm sure rovo will find a solution soon. And we will see xposed for nougat.
GravityBox is terrible and has slowed down every phone it's ever been put on (from my experience).
Xposed is a hack and it's shameful how it's holding back advancement.
Nougat > any hack
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GravityBox is terrible and has slowed down every phone it's ever been put on (from my experience).
Xposed is a hack and it's shameful how it's holding back advancement.
Nougat > any hack
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My phone is just as fast with xposed as it is without. All my apps work perfectly so I say any OS with Xposed is > Nougat
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I don't think magisk can handle what xposed can handle.
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Most of that is either completely unnessecary, pointless, or magisk can do it if people start developing for it. I have none of it (except no ads on youtube and the ability to turn off the screen) and i am completely fine. I think you tell yourself you need all that stuff but you actually don't, staying versions behind on the OS for it seems stupid.
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My phone is just as fast with xposed as it is without. All my apps work perfectly so I say any OS with Xposed is > Nougat
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Well that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but I've noticed the total opposite across several devices. I always try Xposed on a new phone and I always massively dislike the way it works. Intercepting code that was not supposed to be intercepted just adds overhead. There's a good reason AOSP devs will refuse to look at any bug report that has Xposed in the logs.
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Anyway, the battery savings from Nougat are too good to pass over. The only thing I need to customise on my phone is having the Google Dialer, and AdAway, whilst still keeping SafetyNet as passing, which Magisk does perfectly.
EuEra said:
Most of that is either completely unnessecary, pointless, or magisk can do it if people start developing for it. I have none of it (except no ads on youtube and the ability to turn off the screen) and i am completely fine. I think you tell yourself you need all that stuff but you actually don't, staying versions behind on the OS for it seems stupid.
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Exactly, unless you use every setting on GravityBox then it's not entirely necessary, yet even if those functions are off or there are features of GravityBox you don't use, their code is still run. The bigger it gets the more the overhead there is. If you don't use, say, the network speed monitor, it's hook is still active. I could be wrong, but last time I dabbled with Xposed, this was the case.
If anything, smaller more granular modules would be better for GB. One module for network speed. One module for changing the on-screen buttons, etc. That way you only install modules that you use, rather than a whole library of them where you might only use 2-3 of the actual features.
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Hello,
I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S6(64GB, Exynos) with Magisk-root. But I have the issue that it automatically uninstalls. And suddenly it’s unroot. Then I have to reinstall the Magisk-vXX.X.zip with TWRP (X.XX is the version, for example: 14.0 or 13.3). But after some hours it is uninstalled again and I lost the root access.
Then I have to repeat this...
Does someone have the same problem? Or does someone know how to fix this?
I don't want to reinstall the Magisk-package everytime i need root-access.. And I don't want to switch to another root because I like the Magisk-hide-function.
Or are there other roots with hide function?
(I don't want to install a Custom ROM!)
Thank you
Larry
larrythil said:
Hello,
I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S6(64GB, Exynos) with Magisk-root. But I have the issue that it automatically uninstalls. And suddenly it’s unroot. Then I have to reinstall the Magisk-vXX.X.zip with TWRP (X.XX is the version, for example: 14.0 or 13.3). But after some hours it is uninstalled again and I lost the root access.
Then I have to repeat this...
Does someone have the same problem? Or does someone know how to fix this?
I don't want to reinstall the Magisk-package everytime i need root-access.. And I don't want to switch to another root because I like the Magisk-hide-function.
Or are there other roots with hide function?
Thank you
Larry
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I had the same problem with my Nexus 6P.
I was on stock ROM and stock kernel and it happened twice.
Now I'm on stock ROM and EX Kernel and problems seemed go away.
Inviato dal mio Nexus 6P utilizzando Tapatalk
CyberZeus1977 said:
I had the same problem with my Nexus 6P.
I was on stock ROM and stock kernel and it happened twice.
Now I'm on stock ROM and EX Kernel and problems seemed go away.
Inviato dal mio Nexus 6P utilizzando Tapatalk
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Tell me somthing about "stock kernel" and "EX Kernel" what is that and how can i install that? or change that?
I have the same problem, galaxy S6.
I noticed losing root randomly and fixed it by going install patch boot img then you flash the boot img in recovery. So far it's been a day no root loss
Lineage 14.1 for lg stylo 2 plus
Hi ! I have sale problem with my S8+ with custom rom and Custom kernel
Hello.
I am having the same issue with my S6. I have tried all of the advice from previous threads with regard to different versions of Magisk.. (Removing Busy Box / Not using the Magisk Hide feature... etc etc..). I have also been through as many extra options as I can think of, getting all of the "Update" patches from the other developers who have helped with the Magisk project.
Each time, I have run through all of the aditional scripts to make sure SU and Magisk have been completely removed prior, and then used Odin to do a recovery back to my Original ROM (a complete system backup image I previously saved).
The other interesting observation i have at the moment is that i can not get to the Log cat files to post them anywhere. I can see where they are supposed to be but the directory is empty "no files". I have even been as far as downloading one of the many "Mobile Forensic" software kits to try and see if there is anything wrong with my phone.
There is only one observation to report. It seems that after installing Magisk (even if you just install the main ROM and not the manager). Google play starts to download straight away... I am not sure what it is downloading as it doesn't ever seem to complete and all of my versions of the apps are up to date.
I hope I will be able to get some more usefull information for you soon (LogCat etc etc.). If any one has an answer or suggested options it would be good. I am particularly interested in getting the Busy Box feature to work with Root as I am working on an app for my job that needs both options (I work offshore and am trying to adapt a piece of Seismic QC software (unix based) to run on phones / tab's - Android).
I will sign up properly and start to follow the threads more closely.
Cheers... Andy
-Samsung S6 - Full Magisk Module (with recommended zeroflte TWRP).
AndyQVT said:
Hello.
I am having the same issue with my S6. I have tried all of the advice from previous threads with regard to different versions of Magisk.. (Removing Busy Box / Not using the Magisk Hide feature... etc etc..). I have also been through as many extra options as I can think of, getting all of the "Update" patches from the other developers who have helped with the Magisk project.
Each time, I have run through all of the aditional scripts to make sure SU and Magisk have been completely removed prior, and then used Odin to do a recovery back to my Original ROM (a complete system backup image I previously saved).
The other interesting observation i have at the moment is that i can not get to the Log cat files to post them anywhere. I can see where they are supposed to be but the directory is empty "no files". I have even been as far as downloading one of the many "Mobile Forensic" software kits to try and see if there is anything wrong with my phone.
There is only one observation to report. It seems that after installing Magisk (even if you just install the main ROM and not the manager). Google play starts to download straight away... I am not sure what it is downloading as it doesn't ever seem to complete and all of my versions of the apps are up to date.
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So long story short, there's no definitive solution to the problem. Im using a g920p with a custom kernel built by a genius dev, and i still lose root once a day.
Basically what it comes down to is modules. If you have zero modules, you'll have better luck... But that's not the point of magisk, so you need to be picky with modules. Use osmosis's busybox from the magisk repo, but other than that, install modules 1 at a time and see if it affects root.
Another tip: uninstall all updates of the "device maintenance" app, and find it in Google play and turn off automatic updates. Then go to device maintenance > battery > unmonitored apps and magisk manager to the list of unmonitored apps... Then go back the battery screen, battery usage > 3 dots in top right > optimize battery usage, and make sure magisk manager is not optimized... That should help some. (Note: some models don't have device maintenance, but you'll still have the "optimize battery usage" option some where.)
The Google play thing you're seeing is likely "instant apps" updating. I believe that should be unrelated to all this, but some aspects of instant apps is a mystery.
As for the logcat thing, i believe you're getting logcat confused with the magisk_debug.log located in /data ? If that's the case, you need to be using the beta version of magisk. Go to magisk and set the update channel to beta, you'll get a notification to update magisk, download it and flash. (Or if the recommended native install is an option, use that)
I recommend just using he normal 14.3 magisk... You'll have issues, but they will be predictable and easy to solve with a simple reboot. There's really no final solution for us unfortunately, just making it as stable as possible.
Lastly, it helps if once every once in a while you fully uninstall magisk with the uninstall.zip, reboot (you might not get a bootloop, in which case hold volume up +power+ home to boot into recovery), reflash magisk 14.3, and then wipe cache and art/davik.
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larrythil said:
Hello,
I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S6(64GB, Exynos) with Magisk-root. But I have the issue that it automatically uninstalls. And suddenly it’s unroot. Then I have to reinstall the Magisk-vXX.X.zip with TWRP (X.XX is the version, for example: 14.0 or 13.3). But after some hours it is uninstalled again and I lost the root access.
Then I have to repeat this...
Does someone have the same problem? Or does someone know how to fix this?
I don't want to reinstall the Magisk-package everytime i need root-access.. And I don't want to switch to another root because I like the Magisk-hide-function.
Or are there other roots with hide function?
(I don't want to install a Custom ROM!)
Thank you
Larry
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See above
Thanks to all for the help
Nye-uhls said:
So long story short, there's no definitive solution to the problem. Im using a g920p with a custom kernel built by a genius dev, and i still lose root once a day.
Basically what it comes down to is modules. If you have zero modules, you'll have better luck... But that's not the point of magisk, so you need to be picky with modules. Use osmosis's busybox from the magisk repo, but other than that, install modules 1 at a time and see if it affects root.
Another tip: uninstall all updates of the "device maintenance" app, and find it in Google play and turn off automatic updates. Then go to device maintenance > battery > unmonitored apps and magisk manager to the list of unmonitored apps... Then go back the battery screen, battery usage > 3 dots in top right > optimize battery usage, and make sure magisk manager is not optimized... That should help some. (Note: some models don't have device maintenance, but you'll still have the "optimize battery usage" option some where.)
The Google play thing you're seeing is likely "instant apps" updating. I believe that should be unrelated to all this, but some aspects of instant apps is a mystery.
As for the logcat thing, i believe you're getting logcat confused with the magisk_debug.log located in /data ? If that's the case, you need to be using the beta version of magisk. Go to magisk and set the update channel to beta, you'll get a notification to update magisk, download it and flash. (Or if the recommended native install is an option, use that)
I recommend just using he normal 14.3 magisk... You'll have issues, but they will be predictable and easy to solve with a simple reboot. There's really no final solution for us unfortunately, just making it as stable as possible.
Lastly, it helps if once every once in a while you fully uninstall magisk with the uninstall.zip, reboot (you might not get a bootloop, in which case hold volume up +power+ home to boot into recovery), reflash magisk 14.3, and then wipe cache and art/davik.
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Hello again.
So in response.
I followed the advice given... (just as a note previously the root issue would happen within an hour of restarting the device). I have been to the beta thread and read through all advice. Before jumping to the Magisk 14.3, I started with Magisk 14.2, there was a post recommending this as a critical update to Magisk 14.0.
I had no issues with this install (I had once again used my backup to revert the phone back to all original).
I then added any of the modules i wanted one at a time waiting over an hour before looking at adding any additional modules.
So far, I have not lost root and the phone is working as expected (alot better infact). I have all the Busybox modules +add-on's running, still no issues.
The upgrade to v14.2 seems to have fixed all for my uses.
Thanks to all for help and advice.
Andy
AndyQVT said:
Hello again.
So in response.
I followed the advice given... (just as a note previously the root issue would happen within an hour of restarting the device). I have been to the beta thread and read through all advice. Before jumping to the Magisk 14.3, I started with Magisk 14.2, there was a post recommending this as a critical update to Magisk 14.0.
I had no issues with this install (I had once again used my backup to revert the phone back to all original).
I then added any of the modules i wanted one at a time waiting over an hour before looking at adding any additional modules.
So far, I have not lost root and the phone is working as expected (alot better infact). I have all the Busybox modules +add-on's running, still no issues.
The upgrade to v14.2 seems to have fixed all for my uses.
Thanks to all for help and advice.
Andy
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Glad everything is good! Sometimes magisk will get messed up, so just updating or even reinstalling will fix things.
Just keep in mind, its very likely you'll have problems again down the road... Samsung phones do a lot of weird stuff under the hood, and eventually symlinks will get broken, files deleted etc... So when that does happen, the best you can do is uninstall, reflash, update, and watch your modules.
Today updated to 15.3 and install James DSP root losed...When open magisk ask for installation reboot to recovery twrp install latest zip reboot open magisk it close it self and root lost again ?! Any advice from @topjohnwu
Do you guys mind posting a resource that shows how to root the S6 using magisk? I'm very rusty, last time I dealt with rooting was 8 years ago. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
I'm trying to use this app: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=br.com.banrisul
I've added to the hiding list and enable core only mode, it still closes at startup after saying my phone is either root or running a modified system. I've tested with rootbeercheck and it doesn't detect root in any of its tests.
i.imgur.com/60Zs5IH.png
No issues opening the app here... That means Magisk is perfectly capable of hiding from it, but you might have something else in your setup that triggers it.
https://www.didgeridoohan.com/magisk/MagiskHide#hn_Hiding_root_from_apps
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No issues opening the app here... That means Magisk is perfectly capable of hiding from it, but you might have something else in your setup that triggers it.
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but what exactly would trigger it? The link talks mostly about methods to hide magisk, I didn't find anything about what to do if magisk is working but the check fails. I've uninstalled titaniumbackup and rootbrowser. I've disable adb and developer options, I've deleted any folder or downloaded file related to magisk or those apps.
I'm running lineageos, would that be it? How would I go about it?
Could be any number of things... Your ROM might be one of them (more details about that?). It's pretty much impossible for me to do anything else but make educated guesses. The only thing I can say with relative certainty is that it shouldn't have anything to do with Magisk (since I can hide from the app just fine when testing).
You do pass SafetyNet, right? Could be that this is one of those apps that actually use SN.
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Could be any number of things... Your ROM might be one of them (more details about that?). It's pretty much impossible for me to do anything else but make educated guesses. The only thing I can say with relative certainty is that it shouldn't have anything to do with Magisk (since I can hide from the app just fine when testing).
You do pass SafetyNet, right? Could be that this is one of those apps that actually use SN.
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It passes both checks.
I am running lineage OS 14.1 (Android 7.1.2) on a moto g4.
My main guess is that it's detecting something about your ROM. LOS is well known enough for apps to look for certain properties of it.
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My main guess is that it's detecting something about your ROM. LOS is well known enough for apps to look for certain properties of it.
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Yes, after searching around a bit more I found about why. I completely forgot that I had flashed supersu on my phone before flashing magisk. So I guess that's what the app was freaking out about. So I flashed a supersu removal and reflashed my ROM, now the app is working normally
Thanks for the help!
Same problem
Hello everyone
After the last update of my banking app and wallet too
Both apps stopped starting due tl root device detection
While it was working well yesterday
I just updat apps to the last version
I think these app's developers find a way to detect magisk
Of course im hiding and randomly renaming it
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Hello everyone
After the last update of my banking app and wallet too
Both apps stopped starting due tl root device detection
While it was working well yesterday
I just updat apps to the last version
I think these app's developers find a way to detect magisk
Of course im hiding and randomly renaming it
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What version of the application do you want?
I have the latest version installed and it does not detect root
So I got my pixel 4XL a month after it came out I instantly unlocked the bootloader but only until last night when I was going to re-lock it I decided to give Magisk a whirl.
So I downloaded the May update and I patched it with the Magisk Manager and finally have room Can someone of you tell me what I can do if my phone's rooted A long time ago what I would do if I had root was just get a customer recovery and make backups and flash new ROMs.
So when I'm in the Magisk Manager and in the top left corner there's a hamburger menu and one of the options is downloads Can I download any one of those or are those for every phone and some of them at some of them might not work for the Pixel 4 XL?
I want Magisk Hide to hide me and allow me to use Google pay and possibly Netflix.
Last thing that I can think of off without my head is is there any way that I can make backups like I could in TWRP so that if I've installed a module that sends me into a blue loop etc I can just reload my recovery because I'm assuming some modules and exposed units will break a blue my device and I don't want to start from scratch
GokuSSJgod said:
So I got my pixel 4XL a month after it came out I instantly unlocked the bootloader but only until last night when I was going to re-lock it I decided to give Magisk a whirl.
So I downloaded the May update and I patched it with the Magisk Manager and finally have room Can someone of you tell me what I can do if my phone's rooted A long time ago what I would do if I had root was just get a customer recovery and make backups and flash new ROMs.
So when I'm in the Magisk Manager and in the top left corner there's a hamburger menu and one of the options is downloads Can I download any one of those or are those for every phone and some of them at some of them might not work for the Pixel 4 XL?
I want Magisk Hide to hide me and allow me to use Google pay and possibly Netflix.
Last thing that I can think of off without my head is is there any way that I can make backups like I could in TWRP so that if I've installed a module that sends me into a blue loop etc I can just reload my recovery because I'm assuming some modules and exposed units will break a blue my device and I don't want to start from scratch
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No custom recovery at the moment and don't hold your breathe. If a module sends you into a boot loop you can disable all modules in ADB with "uninmod -d" just make sure you have USB debugging always enabled with a trusted computer when using Magisk modules.
GokuSSJgod said:
So I got my pixel 4XL a month after it came out I instantly unlocked the bootloader but only until last night when I was going to re-lock it I decided to give Magisk a whirl.
So I downloaded the May update and I patched it with the Magisk Manager and finally have room Can someone of you tell me what I can do if my phone's rooted A long time ago what I would do if I had root was just get a customer recovery and make backups and flash new ROMs.
So when I'm in the Magisk Manager and in the top left corner there's a hamburger menu and one of the options is downloads Can I download any one of those or are those for every phone and some of them at some of them might not work for the Pixel 4 XL?
I want Magisk Hide to hide me and allow me to use Google pay and possibly Netflix.
Last thing that I can think of off without my head is is there any way that I can make backups like I could in TWRP so that if I've installed a module that sends me into a blue loop etc I can just reload my recovery because I'm assuming some modules and exposed units will break a blue my device and I don't want to start from scratch
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Many modules in that section are universal (fit for any device) but some are device-specific. It's best to do research/reading on what you're thinking of installing, before doing so.
If you run into issues, there's a core-only boot image you can flash (found in themes/apps/mods section of this forum) to boot your device with all modules disabled, so you can delete the offending module.
There also may be a way to remove modules via adb, but again, you're going to have to do some research.
For flashing ROMs, you don't necessarily need Magisk. ROMs are flashed through adb sideload in normal recovery since we don't have TWRP.
I personally use Magisk for custom fonts, dozing Google Play Services, BusyBox, Viper4Android and ad blocking.
For making backups, I use an app called Swift Backup, available on the Play Store. It backs up all your apps + app data, and SMS texts, and call logs. It can also backup WiFi networks.
Hope this helped.
dave5777 said:
No custom recovery at the moment and don't hold your breathe. If a module sends you into a boot loop you can disable all modules in ADB with "uninmod -d" just make sure you have USB debugging always enabled with a trusted computer when using Magisk modules.
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Thanks
rickysidhu_ said:
Many modules in that section are universal (fit for any device) but some are device-specific. It's best to do research/reading on what you're thinking of installing, before doing so.
If you run into issues, there's a core-only boot image you can flash (found in themes/apps/mods section of this forum) to boot your device with all modules disabled, so you can delete the offending module.
There also may be a way to remove modules via adb, but again, you're going to have to do some research.
For flashing ROMs, you don't necessarily need Magisk. ROMs are flashed through adb sideload in normal recovery since we don't have TWRP.
I personally use Magisk for custom fonts, dozing Google Play Services, BusyBox, Viper4Android and ad blocking.
For making backups, I use an app called Swift Backup, available on the Play Store. It backs up all your apps + app data, and SMS texts, and call logs. It can also backup WiFi networks.
Hope this helped.
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I know I could search for the answer but I like you now than the search bar lol.
But where do you find the custom fonts exactly
And the mods for dozing Google play services how much extra battery do you get and is that in thevMagisk Manager? If so what's it called and how do you do it and if it's not there where you find it? What's the point of busy box and viper for Android is something to do with sound and we assume
If you don't want safety net surprises don't use exposed, it's red more than times than it's green
GokuSSJgod said:
I know I could search for the answer but I like you now than the search bar lol.
But where do you find the custom fonts exactly
And the mods for dozing Google play services how much extra battery do you get and is that in thevMagisk Manager? If so what's it called and how do you do it and if it's not there where you find it? What's the point of busy box and viper for Android is something to do with sound and we assume
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Fonts are from the user Tulsadiver in the Themes and apps section.
How much extra battery is subjective, depends on so many other things as well which can be different from me (i.e. screen brightness, how many apps you have installed, different apps from me, cellular network strength, what features are enabled/disabled, etc.)
But overall I'd say it's just a small increase in battery, not anything drastic.
BusyBox is required for some other root apps. If you don't run into any apps asking for BusyBox, you may not need it.
Yes Viper is to increase sound quality, a guide to install it can be found in this forum as well!
Hi,
At times like this I really wish that I knew more about android than I do, but then again that's part of the reason there are site's like reddit. What I'm trying to do is use the sudohide app to solve the issue I've been having as far as keeping it from trying to update itself and becoming enabled again. For my youtube stuff I use the vanced app which at least for me better than the real youtube app. When I open up the sudohide app I receive a prompt that says xposed framework is not installed. Does my lg v30 phone have to be rooted to be able to use the sudohide app? If so I really need to get it rooted, of course if it's rooted I can probably just get rid of youtube anyway.
Thanks
Davy49 said:
Hi,
At times like this I really wish that I knew more about android than I do, but then again that's part of the reason there are site's like reddit. What I'm trying to do is use the sudohide app to solve the issue I've been having as far as keeping it from trying to update itself and becoming enabled again. For my youtube stuff I use the vanced app which at least for me better than the real youtube app. When I open up the sudohide app I receive a prompt that says xposed framework is not installed. Does my lg v30 phone have to be rooted to be able to use the sudohide app? If so I really need to get it rooted, of course if it's rooted I can probably just get rid of youtube anyway.
Thanks
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Sudohide is an (ed)xposed module, which needs root to run in the first place, so you need to unlock your device unless you haven't done so already (it will wipe all your data, backup first), flash TWRP which replaces your stock "recovery" program which is originally used to do factory resets etc, but twrp can do much more. Then flash magisk in twrp, your phone is now rooted, now you can install riru core (dependency for edxposed) and edxposed framework systemlessly, writing directly to system will definitely break safetynet, which is why this is the popular way of rooting these days. Some tinkering around is needed to keep safetynet passing (otherwise you'll lose access to some banking apps, some games, netflix will work, but you can't install it from play store). Just rooting lets you access all the read-only partitions and install magisk modules that take advantage of that, xposed lets you mess with the behavior of user/system apps.
Hi zipsu,
Of course thanks so much for your feedback, and as silly as it might sound..all I have to do now is work up my courage and attempt to root my lg v30 phone. I know that a lot of user's say that it's actually pretty simple, but I think they have more knowledge about android that I currently have. It probably doesn't matter but I'm currently running android version 9.0 on my phone.
zipsu said:
Sudohide is an (ed)xposed module, which needs root to run in the first place, so you need to unlock your device unless you haven't done so already (it will wipe all your data, backup first), flash TWRP which replaces your stock "recovery" program which is originally used to do factory resets etc, but twrp can do much more. Then flash magisk in twrp, your phone is now rooted, now you can install riru core (dependency for edxposed) and edxposed framework systemlessly, writing directly to system will definitely break safetynet, which is why this is the popular way of rooting these days. Some tinkering around is needed to keep safetynet passing (otherwise you'll lose access to some banking apps, some games, netflix will work, but you can't install it from play store). Just rooting lets you access all the read-only partitions and install magisk modules that take advantage of that, xposed lets you mess with the behavior of user/system apps.
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No rom dev.
Can't get magisk in.
Dk magisk anyways
Xposed is doa? Or past it's prime.
Ok, how to gain root? Flash kernel which won't flash? Ow.
ǀcey said:
No rom dev.
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Uh... you can try GSIs on this phone after unlocking bootloader. Most of the phone's functionality work with GSIs at the moment.
ǀcey said:
Can't get magisk in.
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Recently Magisk has changed its way of distribution so there's only an apk now. But if you rename the Magisk apk into a zip, you can then flash it from TWRP (which you can access by flashing arter97's kernel).
ǀcey said:
Dk magisk anyways
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Nowadays if you're to root the most ideal approach would be Magisk, which allows you to modify the system without directly touching the system partition, as well as hiding its presence from certain sensitive apps so Safety Net can still pass.
ǀcey said:
Xposed is doa? Or past it's prime.
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If you're saying it's past prime... in some aspects, yes, thanks to the fact that you can't have both Xposed and Safety Net passing at the same time.
Still, if you're interested, you may consider looking for EdXposed or LSposed. I haven't tested it myself as I don't really have a use case at the moment, but these might be useful.
ǀcey said:
Ok, how to gain root? Flash kernel which won't flash? Ow.
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You mostly need to just unlock bootloader following official instructions. After that you can proceed to flash kernels and GSIs through fastboot.
PS: I think this thread should best be posted in the Q&A forum...
EDIT: Just noticed your other post. If that was your real question... well, you were in the stock recovery and not the bootloader so fastboot commands obviously won't work there.
To enter bootloader, power it off, hold VOL- and POWER buttons until you see something like "Restart Bootloader", then you should be able to use fastboot.
Thank you, for all of your information!
It helped me by heaps!
The biggest problem I was having, was thinking the phone was in fastboot when it wasn't.
When I figured that out, the phone was quickly up n running on Phh-Treble with GApps Gsi.
Magisk Manager vs apk uses were confusing. It's Modules I can more easily blindly understand due to knowing XPosed.
Magisk went in smoothly & successfully via the change extension fastboot method which you explained.
But it appears the same as before inside the OS It's there but not really in type of thing.
Everything but the f2fs file and Magisk did complain.
I have no idea what kernel actually made it in now.
Safetynet! Hahaha! Is a new thing for me.
My phone is PlayStore bonafide uncertified also now.
PlayStore, I tried some other gapps nothing really changes, it just reupdates back to where it was, if it does, anyways(I think).
I tried registering device too. Failed that!
Being Uncertified = no netflix, no bank apps(deal breakers to me). GPhotos 1/2-ish working. Gvoice, Gmail working great! Razer Themes.apk + Pandora disappeared. I miss Razer Themes Lockscreens alot! Razer gives only a play link.
I installed older Netflix & Bank app. Both working.
Play ignores netflix but updated Bank. The same Bank app did stop working on a deemed outdated device in the past. It's not Chase but close.
I did try hiding things from the launcher via an other installed launcher.
An old Selinux(sp?) showed set to permissive. I changed to enforced, rebooted and it appeared to stick.
I installed Greenify(old) and stopped everything then did my monthly banking business, paid, xferred, etc. All transactions were confirmed. Boot still unlocked.
Soon afterwards, I installed Aptoide which informed me of root.
The Gsi's package Installer, won't install anything from within Es(I'm a diehard Es file manager user). The built-in file manager must be used to call the installer. The built-in file manager also crashes when searching.
A buggy installer I can deal with. Banking without it's app, I can not.
A halfbaked PlayStore is doable but not ideal.
The gsi itself on a RP2 is beautiful. The darks darker. The flashlight toggle works now! The fingerprint sensor never worked, still doesn't. 120fps, few games bake that capablity in. I haven't tested yet. No sound in Wyze app.
I recommend having your fav most used .apks dled before leaping onto it.
First boot was loud! Be prepared!
Then nothing.
2 days later, I noticed all alarms & notifications were set to silent sound.wav.
Idk, where to go from here. Stick to where it is now & wait for fixes. Go back. Or to go patch crazy if I can manage to get Magisk in.
I'm happy enough where it is now and it feels pretty secure. Will relocking the bootloader wipe it? The adult in me thinks.
But! I love tweaking...zzz
Relocking undoes it
LSS4181 said:
Uh... you can try GSIs on this phone after unlocking bootloader. Most of the phone's functionality work with GSIs at the moment.
Recently Magisk has changed its way of distribution so there's only an apk now. But if you rename the Magisk apk into a zip, you can then flash it from TWRP (which you can access by flashing arter97's kernel).
Nowadays if you're to root the most ideal approach would be Magisk, which allows you to modify the system without directly touching the system partition, as well as hiding its presence from certain sensitive apps so Safety Net can still pass.
If you're saying it's past prime... in some aspects, yes, thanks to the fact that you can't have both Xposed and Safety Net passing at the same time.
Still, if you're interested, you may consider looking for EdXposed or LSposed. I haven't tested it myself as I don't really have a use case at the moment, but these might be useful.
You mostly need to just unlock bootloader following official instructions. After that you can proceed to flash kernels and GSIs through fastboot.
PS: I think this thread should best be posted in the Q&A forum...
EDIT: Just noticed your other post. If that was your real question... well, you were in the stock recovery and not the bootloader so fastboot commands obviously won't work there.
To enter bootloader, power it off, hold VOL- and POWER buttons until you see something like "Restart Bootloader", then you should be able to use fastboot.
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I have one of the faulty charging ports so cannot do anything with USB. I do have my bootloader unlocked so is there any way to get the gsi's, twrp and root onto the phone via SD card? Any help is appreciated.