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Hi all,
Was wondering if anyone experience jerky performances.
I have about 10 pages of apps installed mostly games and stock apps.
When I use advance app killer, usually i see stock apps eg. facebook, browser, ebook, etc.. When I kill them all, performance doesn't improve much.
If the 10 pages are the reason, any way to know which is running in background and sucking up resources?
The performance of your Gtab is jerky coz of the apps that run in the background even if you close them they restart.. u cn use startup auditor app to increase performance... if all fails hard reset nd install only required Apps not the apps u don't use but run behind nd eat up RAM nd battery
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a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error
I was in a similar situation until I last had to factory reset my Tab due to the whole issue with Google Apps Google Accounts not having access to Google Checkout on the Android Market.
Installed over 100 apps on my first day with the Tab (over-excited, I know ), and realized that my Tab started to lag when opening the app drawer. The problem became most apparent when I shut down or rebooted the Tab; it would literally take minutes to boot up, and often it would freeze and force close my launcher several times in a row.
I chalked it down to having too many apps, but later read that many apps start themselves up on boot even if they had no reason to (e.g. Amazon, Aldiko, etc.)
I've since only installed apps that I would really use throughout the day, but would you guys say that so long these apps do not run on startup (say I disable them using the Autostarts app), I can install a hundred or even two hundred apps without the boot up lag?
So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?
From my RAM manager, I see like 180+ to 200mb out of 400+mb. I think that's the remaining RAM ?
Anyone knows the stock RAM out of the box?
It might be because carriers pre load crap on them
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Installed the free startup app and found the culprits ... GAMELOFT games. They are huge in size and think they eat up the memory in background/at startup.
After disabling, all back to normal.
olyloh6696 said:
a certain app may be using up too much background resources. try uninstalling the culprit. detct it by trial and error
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Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
bzie said:
So there's no way to see which app is running in background and % memory used, similar to windows task manager?
When I use Advanced task killer, are those 'apps shown' considered as background apps or are background apps invisible?
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Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.
TheATHEiST said:
Why on earth would you want to detect it by trial and error when there is plenty of apps you can use to find it specifically?
Use a app like system panel, It will show you all the running apps and there memory/cpu consumption etc.
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wow. i never knew of such app. please share.
olyloh6696 said:
wow. i never knew of such app. please share.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1
StarLog said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=nextapp.systempanel.r1
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cheers!
sorry outta 'thanks'
Every Miui rom I have tried on my many U9000-81 cincinnati bell phones has done this, When the browser or any app stalls, the phone will reboot. Is this a memory overflow causing this? Is it inherent in the phone? I am not a rom developer but this is the reason that I don't like the Miui Rom. First and foremost the phone should be stable. Sorry for the rant.
Sergekarol said:
Every Miui rom I have tried on my many U9000-81 cincinnati bell phones has done this, When the browser or any app stalls, the phone will reboot. Is this a memory overflow causing this? Is it inherent in the phone? I am not a rom developer but this is the reason that I don't like the Miui Rom. First and foremost the phone should be stable. Sorry for the rant.
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memmory is great issue with MIUI, many time its own lauuncher got freez because of memmory issue .... using different launcher over MIUI to overcome memmory isuue...
My phone rarely reboots on MIUI and I'm using go launcher and many background apps are also running, I'd suggest you try V6 by zeppelinrox
My phone always has more then 150mb free ram and find no reboot so far. Can you give me some tips to try to make miui reboot or some app names to try the stability?
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CacingKalung said:
My phone always has more then 150mb free ram and find no reboot so far. Can you give me some tips to try to make miui reboot or some app names to try the stability?
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CK what you use to make free 150 + ram for all time, Now I am using ADW launcher to counter memory problem but not that successful
@paarkhi was using V6 supercharger on RC2 after that forget to use it again ... run it again to check the results ....
V6 rejuvenates the phone in my case, can't say about others
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CK what you use to make free 150 + ram for all time, Now I am using ADW launcher to counter memory problem but not that successful
@paarkhi was using V6 supercharger on RC2 after that forget to use it again ... run it again to check the results ....
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I tried to avoid widgets in each desktop. Widgets will take more cpu and ram for them to work for background and foreground process.
I'm not using any additional tweak other than default rom tweak. I'm using ssLauncher and no widget in every desktop, that's make always 150+ free ram. This launcher is more smooth and light than miui default launcher and quite beautiful even without widget. Maybe not everyone comfortable with this launcher but this is what I looked for from long time ago, paper curl effect desktop change.
For More free RAM, you Guy's should try "RAM Manager" App. you can easily get more than +200 free MB of RAM. Max i got was around 260MB on my CM7.2, I have screen on my phone, i can't show you guy's because my Phone is stolen
Here is the Market link :- CLICK HERE
Free version should be ok because "Balance" Profile work's best for our device & you should run this app in a every while to Boost your RAM...!!
yashwantsingh said:
For More free RAM, you Guy's should try "RAM Manager" App. you can easily get more than +200 free MB of RAM. Max i got was around 260MB on my CM7.2, I have screen on my phone, i can't show you guy's because my Phone is stolen
Here is the Market link :- CLICK HERE
Free version should be ok because "Balance" Profile work's best for our device & you should run this app in a every while to Boost your RAM...!!
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Well unless an app like firefox has a memory leak there should be no issue with memory. And if it does have a memory leak bad enough to crash the OS, a memory manager will not have enough ram to run under that circumstance either. But why don't I have an issue like that with Cyanogenmod?
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But why don't I have an issue like that with Cyanogenmod?
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Because cm is light on memory
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Well unless an app like firefox has a memory leak there should be no issue with memory. And if it does have a memory leak bad enough to crash the OS, a memory manager will not have enough ram to run under that circumstance either. But why don't I have an issue like that with Cyanogenmod?
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You remind me with firefox. I stop using firefox several months ago because of memory leak of this app, make the OS reboot even I regularly update the app, but not remember what rom I was used. Since that time I never use firefox again, opera mobile take the place.
Normally the ram manager should not crash even with the memory leak of some apps, it should kill them when the memory reach the minimum free size limitation as we configure in minfree. From what you said, may be the configuration of this minfree will help the memory manager to breath a little deeper.
I think we should give this four values not to low in minfree:
- FOREGROUND_APP
- VISIBLE_APP
- SECONDARY_SERVER
- EMPTY_APP
But will decrease the chance to switch to other task, it will start over from the beginning for some apps.
Well... that what I thought.
I've to consider this for my future rom ports. But I hasn't found this issue in my current rom. I 'll try to install firefox and open many site on tabs.
Edited: Confirmed.... after using firefox with several webs on tabs opened, it got rebooted. But no reboot if using opera mobile.
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Because cm is light on memory
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Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
Sergekarol said:
Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
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Our device ram only has 512mb. I think that was not free ram, that must be free internal nvm memory . I have 630mb free internal memory.
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Sergekarol said:
Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
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Ram and internal memory is different, what you are saying is internal memory and as CK said we only have 512mb but 352 mb shown
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Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
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He he he
Its a good joke bro. ...... person above mentioning 150 mb speaking about ram and you are speaking about internal memory. ..its 700 + for me too. ....
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CacingKalung said:
You remind me with firefox. I stop using firefox several months ago because of memory leak of this app, make the OS reboot even I regularly update the app, but not remember what rom I was used. Since that time I never use firefox again, opera mobile take the place.
Normally the ram manager should not crash even with the memory leak of some apps, it should kill them when the memory reach the minimum free size limitation as we configure in minfree. From what you said, may be the configuration of this minfree will help the memory manager to breath a little deeper.
I think we should give this four values not to low in minfree:
- FOREGROUND_APP
- VISIBLE_APP
- SECONDARY_SERVER
- EMPTY_APP
But will decrease the chance to switch to other task, it will start over from the beginning for some apps.
Well... that what I thought.
I've to consider this for my future rom ports. But I hasn't found this issue in my current rom. I 'll try to install firefox and open many site on tabs.
Edited: Confirmed.... after using firefox with several webs on tabs opened, it got rebooted. But no reboot if using opera mobile.
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What rom is this with?
vivekb said:
He he he
Its a good joke bro. ...... person above mentioning 150 mb speaking about ram and you are speaking about internal memory. ..its 700 + for me too. ....
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Duh I knew something sounded funny.
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Ram and internal memory is different, what you are saying is internal memory and as CK said we only have 512mb but 352 mb shown
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OK So right now my phone has 104 avail out of 351. One tab opened in firefox now 97/351 5 tabs 102/351 6 tabs 98/351. Not seeing that Firefox is causing problems with CM7. This only happens with Miui as far as I can tell.
Is the problem With Firefox or Miui? Do other programs cause the same problem with Miui? Not Opera obviously. I personally love the look of Miui but reliability is key with me. I hate reboot problems.
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Is the problem With Firefox or Miui? Do other programs cause the same problem with Miui? Not Opera obviously. I personally love the look of Miui but reliability is key with me. I hate reboot problems.
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Problem is with launcher of MIUI, its really a RAM eater ......
over MIUI you can try other launcher and will see the difference
was using AWD an go on MIUI from some days really want to say never rebooted from then......
Also constantly getting RAM above 150 MB ....
AWD is preferred choice to get more while go with lots of customization option.
Also try V6 supercharger ....
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..
Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Log off your Facebook account
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Advanced Task Killer from playstore is one of the best app that y are looking for!!
If i helped you hit thanks button
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Task killer can harm your phone
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dagger said:
Delete the useless apps like FB.....
And use ram manager pro from play store..
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IAmNice said:
Of freeze them!
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NRG001 said:
Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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Thanks guys for checking my post
But the problem is that i need this apps but i just want them to start whenever i want not whenever they wont
I cant freez fb because the synced contacts will be gone
And sure thing I wont be using task killer
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Log off your Facebook account
Task killer can harm your phone
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task killer does not harm your phone
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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open the app once..go in settings force close it.. it wont start again till you connect internet..
I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
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Mockingbird said:
I use ES task killer , mainly reason is to clean cache fast.And delete facebook app is like twilight for your phone.
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hehe I need it to sync contacts
leecorp said:
Alternatively you can enjoy ur facebook through any good browser like one browser and manage ur ram with ram manager pro.
I do it that way.
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I'm using it also thanks buddy
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cybervibin said:
So i saw many posts on which people have asked as to which task killer should be used !
and then i stumble upon this site which provided me the details,
*I HAVE NOT WRITTEN THIS*
sources-by Chris Hoffman
http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/
Android Doesn’t Manage Processes Like Windows
Most Android users are familiar with Windows. On Windows, many programs running at one time – whether they’re windows on your desktop or applications in your system tray – can decrease your computer’s performance. Closing applications when you’re not using them can help speed up your Windows computer.
However, Android isn’t Windows and doesn’t manage processes like Windows does. Unlike on Windows, where there’s an obvious way to close applications, there’s no obvious way to “close” an Android application. This is by design and isn’t a problem. When you leave an Android app, going back to your home screen or switching to another app, the app stays “running” in the background. In most cases, the app will be paused in the background, taking up no CPU or network resources. Some apps will continue using CPU and network resources in the background, of course – for example, music players, file-downloading programs, or apps that sync in the background.
When you go back to an app you were recently using, Android “unpauses” that app and you resume where you left off. This is fast because the app is still stored in your RAM and ready to be used again.
Why Task Killers Are Bad
Proponents of task killers notice that Android is using a lot of RAM – in fact, Android stores a lot of apps in its memory, filling up the RAM! However, that isn’t a bad thing. Apps stored in your RAM can be quickly switched to without Android having to load them from its slower storage.
In summary, you shouldn’t use a task killer – if you have a misbehaving app wasting resources in the background, you should identify it and uninstall it. But don’t just remove apps from your phone or tablet’s RAM – that doesn’t help speed anything up.
Empty RAM is useless. Full RAM is RAM that is being put to good use for caching apps. If Android needs more memory, it will force-quit an app that you haven’t used in a while – this all happens automatically, without installing any task killers.
Task killers think they know better than Android. They run in the background, automatically quitting apps and removing them from Android’s memory. They may also allow you to force-quit apps on your own, but you shouldn’t have to do this.
Task killers aren’t just useless – they can reduce performance. If a task killer removes an app from your RAM and you open that app again, the app will be slower to load as Android is forced to load it from your device’s storage. This will also use more battery power than if you just left the app in your RAM in the first place. Some apps will automatically restart after the task killer quits them, using more CPU and battery resources.
Whether RAM is empty or full, it takes the same amount of battery power – decreasing the amount of apps stored in RAM won’t improve your battery power or offer more CPU cycles.
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words of wisdom by fellow-mates
go into settings - apps and see how many running apps you have. now go to cached apps and see there, how many apps there are. you see? nearly 50% of those apps discovered by you in the processes are apps that you didn't opened ever but they are still opened and running. why? because that's how linux manages its resources. instead of having free ram for no use (what's the point of having 14gb of ram when you only use 1gb), linux fills all the ram blocks with useful apps or apps that you are running frequently so that when you call that app, it will bring it on the screen almost instantly. this my friend, is called multitasking.
and no, you are wrong. if you use a task killer killing the apps every 10 minutes, the cycles the whole system does - opening again apps and caching them, task killer closing them - results in much more functions done by CPU => more battery spent. even if you say that the battery life its the same, you are wrong. when using a task killer IT MIGHT drain your battery with 0.1% per hour. it's not that much, but IT EXIST.
oh and yeah, one thing: android has its own task killer. that's why you don't need one app to kill your other apps. because android its doing it by itself. if you don't believe me, strip down one kernel, open the init.rc file and find the values for task killer.
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Zewarxx said:
Hey everyone
as we all know the ram of the x8 is so small :'(, and some apps like the ****y Facebook takes about 50 mb from the ram
I need an application that block apps from starting on their own
I found one for controling which app should start on boot but I need another to control them after that
thanks in advance
Ps :locked bootloader can't do swapping
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I don't know if this is helpful or not but I'm trying to help you. I don't recommend you to use an application to block apps from starting on their own because it will ruin how Android managed it memory consumption. Since you've talked that Facebook app takes about 50MB of RAM I recommend you to use this instead of Facebook official app.
Hope I helped you.
Thanks man I got it now its bad to do such a thing
^_^
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Dear Friends, I'm Currently running in Stock I9305XXBME1 rooted deodexed, i had problem with stock browser, sometimes it closes when I try to return for previous pages, is this normal? well could someone here can help my question. Many thanks
Definately not normal, I've had the browser open with a good few and very rare for them to reload.
You might have some memory hungry apps running in the background, get a task manager to monitor apps ram usage
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omair.shabir said:
Definately not normal, I've had the browser open with a good few and very rare for them to reload.
You might have some memory hungry apps running in the background, get a task manager to monitor apps ram usage
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Thanks Mate, but I really not have any hungger memory app inside, I also remove all samsung app, its very clean I had 1.3 Gb Free Ram. but I had little modification in res image in stock like phone, browser, callculator, messaging, setting and more :laugh: maybe I'll try to restore them first and see the diffirence.. Thanks anyway
After disabling autostart app why apps runs in backgrounds does it consume more ram ?
these are apps that need to be running in the background in order to receive ( realtime ) notifications. And yes this does consume RAM, however you have 6 or 8 gigabytes, so a few of these won't matter much.
i do not recommend the facebook app though, since its tracking you at all times, thats another reason why facebook app consumes more ram en energy than other apps.
dev-DaT said:
these are apps that need to be running in the background in order to receive ( realtime ) notifications. And yes this does consume RAM, however you have 6 or 8 gigabytes, so a few of these won't matter much.
i do not recommend the facebook app though, since its tracking you at all times, thats another reason why facebook app consumes more ram en energy than other apps.
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This cause pubg lag in my k20 pro with heating issue
Is there anyway to stop these background running apps??
Chandan.Saxena said:
This cause pubg lag in my k20 pro with heating issue
Is there anyway to stop these background running apps??
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Try the greenify app maybe? or just disable them when u start playing pubg