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be happy you have wp7..
go to:
wpcentral.com/rumor-january-windows-phone-7-update-be-massive-catches-iphone
copy paste that on your browser and read it
Excellent news! This is exactly what the market needs to hear. People who are upset by the initial release and believe it is all WP7 would ever be will be able to ease up a bit on the nay-saying.
The forces opposed to WP7 will be active all the way to the release of the update. They will actually be even more pronounced because of this information. So I hope MS does impress. Because if they don't, the system will suffer massively because of the heightened opposition.
Great news indeed
Hope to see this for real in January.
no one can exactly says that wp7 is selling poorly in the market,, i read an article that android is outselling wp7 by ratio of 15:1, and by symbian at 3:1.. but this is only on their stores or he maybe a android fanboy!
i am monitoring a facebook page of windows phone 7, the first day i monitored it there where 250,000 plus people who like it that was 3 weeks ago and now it grows to 500,000 plus likes, from this we can see that windows phone 7 is getting lots of user or maybe people are liking it and waiting to get their own in the future.
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The forces opposed to WP7 will be active all the way to the release of the update. They will actually be even more pronounced because of this information. So I hope MS does impress. Because if they don't, the system will suffer massively because of the heightened opposition.
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I don't think your comment is fair. I've been using MS products since MS DOS 2.0 right up till Windows 7. Never missed a release. Likewise the same with Windows Mobile or Pocket PC 2000 as it may be and as you can see from my sig.
All that being said WP7 was abysmal for a 1.0 release. It's nothing to do with nay-sayers. They released a great OS with too missing out of the box. This update if it comes to fruition would prove those 'nay sayers' as you called them right. In fact we may need to thank them because if MS went with people like you (no offense intended) who thought it was a great 1.0 release we may never get that update.
What exactly makes WP7 in its current state "abysmal"? And MartyLK's statement is spot on, WP7's detractors focused solely on the missing features and completely ignored the things WP7 does well OOB compared to other OS's, like multimedia playback, Office, gaming, new UI that doesnt clone the alternatives and dont forget making phone calls (which some high profile phones struggled to do when they were released). So where exactly is the "abysmal" part of WP7?
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What exactly makes WP7 in its current state "abysmal"? . . . . . missing features and completely ignored the things WP7 does well OOB compared . . . . .?
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LOL! You seem to have answered your own question buddy. You've got to understand that no one is calling WM crap; nor am I comparing it to other OS's. I'm actually comparing it to PPCPE; the first generation.
If you feel WP7 is better compared to other OS's then you are probably right. My 2nd cellphone that I owned in 2001 was the Pocket PC phone Edition. Even that iteration had more functionality and features than WP7.
What people are upset about is not the promising factor of WP7; its going to be a great OS no doubt about it but that doesn't elude the fact that significant features were held back till an 'update'.
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LOL! You seem to have answered your own question buddy. You've got to understand that no one is calling WM crap; nor am I comparing it to other OS's. I'm actually comparing it to PPCPE; the first generation.
If you feel WP7 is better compared to other OS's then you are probably right. My 2nd cellphone that I owned in 2001 was the Pocket PC phone Edition. Even that iteration had more functionality and features than WP7.
What people are upset about is not the promising factor of WP7; its going to be a great OS no doubt about it but that doesn't elude the fact that significant features were held back till an 'update'.
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Whatever its compared to, PPCPE, android or ios I dont see how adding features later in its life cycle makes it so abhorrent. Doesnt account for your statement that its "abysmal". Lets not forget, previous versions of WM were feature packed but for various reasons performed poorly so they are hardly a model to compare to WP7 which seeks to put performance first.
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LOL! You seem to have answered your own question buddy. You've got to understand that no one is calling WM crap; nor am I comparing it to other OS's. I'm actually comparing it to PPCPE; the first generation.
If you feel WP7 is better compared to other OS's then you are probably right. My 2nd cellphone that I owned in 2001 was the Pocket PC phone Edition. Even that iteration had more functionality and features than WP7.
What people are upset about is not the promising factor of WP7; its going to be a great OS no doubt about it but that doesn't elude the fact that significant features were held back till an 'update'.
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You must be one of the few who never kept up with the news about WP7 from before it was released. It was widely known that the features absent currently would not be in the release version. I knew that and a great many knew that. I also know that what WP7 is currently is pure quality. I also expect future features for it, as well.
The ppl who are crying and moaning that WP7 is short-lived and bad because of the lack of these features are the ones that are referenced. They have zero excuse for saying what they say, if they are in-the-know. They are vocal and heard. How is it possible when someone like myself, who is nothing in the industry knows more than the ones who are centered in the industry? How is it possible that I and the multitude of XDA'ers know these features would be missing in the release version and they do not know that?
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What exactly makes WP7 in its current state "abysmal"? And MartyLK's statement is spot on, WP7's detractors focused solely on the missing features and completely ignored the things WP7 does well OOB compared to other OS's, like multimedia playback, Office, gaming, new UI that doesnt clone the alternatives and dont forget making phone calls (which some high profile phones struggled to do when they were released). So where exactly is the "abysmal" part of WP7?
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will updates be done how HD2 was? have to reset to factory on install? or will it be more like Droid, u just get notice it installs and runs without a hard boot?
any one know?
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will updates be done how HD2 was? have to reset to factory on install? or will it be more like Droid, u just get notice it installs and runs without a hard boot?
any one know?
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Update with no reset, most likely just a re-boot 100%.
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Update with no reset, most likely just a re-boot 100%.
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good news, cant wait to see
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You must be one of the few who never kept up with the news about WP7 from before it was released. It was widely known that the features absent currently would not be in the release version. I knew that and a great many knew that. I also know that what WP7 is currently is pure quality. I also expect future features for it, as well.
The ppl who are crying and moaning that WP7 is short-lived and bad because of the lack of these features are the ones that are referenced. They have zero excuse for saying what they say, if they are in-the-know. They are vocal and heard. How is it possible when someone like myself, who is nothing in the industry knows more than the ones who are centered in the industry? How is it possible that I and the multitude of XDA'ers know these features would be missing in the release version and they do not know that?
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I have a feeling that no matter how I repeat myself my words will still get twisted. I don't recall ever stating that I wasn't aware that numerous features would be missing from WP7 on release. Nor do I recall dismissing them. I am simply stating a criticism of the current OS from an urban masses perspective.
You are looking at WP7 from your perspective of understanding. Remember your view make sense to you and me and probably every other geek or tech inclined person out there. However MS is in the business of making money not satisfying the tech fetishes of geeks.
Let me simplify my point. if you took your grandma to an ATT store. What phone do you think the store rep would sell her and why if she had an option between a WP7 and an iPhone. Take a moment before you reply and note I said "store rep"?
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I don't think your comment is fair. I've been using MS products since MS DOS 2.0 right up till Windows 7. Never missed a release. Likewise the same with Windows Mobile or Pocket PC 2000 as it may be and as you can see from my sig.
All that being said WP7 was abysmal for a 1.0 release. It's nothing to do with nay-sayers. They released a great OS with too missing out of the box. This update if it comes to fruition would prove those 'nay sayers' as you called them right. In fact we may need to thank them because if MS went with people like you (no offense intended) who thought it was a great 1.0 release we may never get that update.
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Here is what I responded to. You say (the red words). I say it has everything to do with these "nay-sayers". They are in-the-know and are complaining that WP7 is crap because of it's lack of features. If they are in-the-know, they knew it would lack these features. They are in fact treating WP7 as if it is all it will ever be. The fact that they are in-the-know and no doubt knew about its lack of features at launch means they are opposed to WP7 no matter what. They are the ones who will be even more vocal in opposition to WP7 now that the public knows there is a huge update planned.
The nay-sayers aren't fair-minded common users. They are the opposition to WP7.
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Here is what I responded to. You say (the red words). I say it has everything to do with these "nay-sayers". They are in-the-know and are complaining that WP7 is crap because of it's lack of features. If they are in-the-know, they knew it would lack these features. They are in fact treating WP7 as if it is all it will ever be. The fact that they are in-the-know and no doubt knew about its lack of features at launch means they are opposed to WP7 no matter what. They are the ones who will be even more vocal in opposition to WP7 now that the public knows there is a huge update planned.
The nay-sayers aren't fair-minded common users. They are the opposition to WP7.
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Dont you feel (if not agree); that it's these flood of people that are forcing MS to release this update of missing features in early 2011. Meaning that if you keep saying something is perfect then how will the manufacturer know. Why do you think every store, website, business aske for surveys.
Without the so called Apple "nay sayers" complaining about copy/paste it would have never happened. Now ask yourself. How many people do you know who use an iPhone use copy/paste?
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Dont you feel (if not agree); that it's these flood of people that are forcing MS to release this update of missing features in early 2011. Meaning that if you keep saying something is perfect then how will the manufacturer know. Why do you think every store, website, business aske for surveys.
Without the so called Apple "nay sayers" complaining about copy/paste it would have never happened. Now ask yourself. How many people do you know who use an iPhone use copy/paste?
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I understand what you are saying but I disagree with you in intent of purpose. Nay-saying from general, user, public is what will drive the OS to loftier heights, if MS does in fact listen to them. I'm not fully certain of that. I think of MS as doing their own thing, to their own drumbeat rather than catering to the public. The nay-sayers you are referring to are an obstacle to survival because they are -in-the-know and the general public listens to them. They will not ever like WP7 because they oppose it, no matter what. They will twist everything they can to destroy it before it's up and running.
People... people... people... Microsoft rushed this phone to market. They new exactly what they were doing. They wanted to capture a piece of the Christmas shopping pie. And we jumped in because we are sick of Apple and their iPhone. I mean really a battery that you can't replace???? Get with it Apple !!!! I digress... As I stated in a previous thread Microsoft will do what Apple did and in half the time. In fact it wouldn't surprise me at all if it surpasses iPhone in less than a year. I mean why oh why did Microsoft come out with a totally new Phone OS ? Because they know the current platforms will not support future funtionality and cloud services. They sank millions into this and they are not going to play second fiddle to Apple or Google in this space. So did we buy our WP7 phones for what it can do? No.... we bought it because of what it will be able to do. Yes it is lacking some defacto funtionality (copy/paste) but would you have rather spent your money and upgraded to iPhone4 and have a nice paper weight in 6 months? Yes there will be nay sayers. Heck I even say iPhone still sucks despite their advances. And if you think iPhone is so great, talk to me when you can swap the battery in 20 seconds or less. So bring on the the releases Microsoft and make us smile ! We know you have done the market research and we know you are going to bring great things to this platform.
I am a big MS fan and waited very patiently for WP7. I must say I was rather underwhelmed with the initial release and cannot wait for numerous updates that will bring it atleast on par with the functionality in W6.5
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No settings to decide how you want the phone to behave after a delete
No hierachial folder list
NO ability to search your mailbox.
Cannot select all to mass act on criteria
No ability to custmize font, color in emails. most new androids do this
People Search
Cannot search people by file as field or company.
Other issues
Wifi Mac address hidden
No Flash. Atleast recognize a you tube URL and send us to m.youtube.com
No Bluetooth settings (cannot change behavior of phone when paired) ie voice commands dont work.
Phone menu doesnt separate missed, incoming and outgoing calls.
Cannot forward a txt message
No Wifi router
No Remote desktop
No Swype keyboard
All of the above are painful ommisions for me. if the hardware on my Imagio wasnt so damn slow I would be back using it.
for search .... in the program you are in, mail, music, phone, click on the bottom right hand search symbol (last one on right). Type what you are searching. If there is a match it will find it quickly... yes some of the other features are not there yet (release coming soon). Not sure by the last one? No Swype ?
I've read many reviews on this device and so far it seems like it's the perfect fit for me, especially since LTE isn't available in my area. Cheap, well built and uses stock Android... Fantastic. Then I come here and I'm starting to read that it might not be the awesome device I thought it was... Overheating, poor benchmarks, bad battery life... These sound like deal-breakers. So before I retire my MyTouch 3G Slide (yes, I know it's incredibly old...) and buy one of these I must ask if this really does have some major flaws that can't be fixed by a custom rom. It still seems like the bargain of the century, but if it's not going to work like an android-powered quad core phone then maybe I should reconsider.
Sorry if this has been beaten to death but I haven't seen a post that sums up all of the issues with this phone yet.
There are no problems with it, these people just like to whine.. It will be a great upgrade for you
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There have been plenty of posts that sum up the issues and answer your question
1. All reviewers were testing on pre-release builds of the software
2. Maybe all the issues get quashed by the time they release the N4 to the public. Then again, maybe not.
Since you have held out so long, I suggest you stick with it for a week or two more. But if thats something you can't do (I know I can't ), just go ahead and get one.
Given the fact that Google has oriented the Nexus more towards users than towards the devs unlike the previous versions, I doubt they will overlook any hardware issues with the phone. Software glitches, if any, will be fixed soon.
We can't see a ''verdict'' until we see the final product and ppl get their hands on it, as everything being told right now must be taken as speculation as it aint the final version of the phone...
Plus these phones being reviewed are not the final version being released on the 13th
Buy it. You won't be sorry. There's nothing else like it out there. I'm also coming from a very old phone (not as old as yours though) an Optimus V. The way I see it, ANY phone, even one with a few minor flaws, will be better than what we have.
Tapatalk² from my Optimus V
In before lock.
People in this forum don't even have the phone. This phone is going to kick ass. You think Google would choose a phone that had poor benchmarks, poor battery life for their Nexus line. All of this is coordinated and tested ahead of time.
Apparently this whole project was completed in 6 months.
Since they havent made a huge change from the physical interior and exterior of the optimus g, it really can only be better than it with the software.
Patience...
Petraman,
Wait for real reviews after a few weeks the phone is released on Nov 13, 2012. A good review takes time for the reviewer to actually "use" the phone daily and give us a first hand experience. That is what we are looking for when we read the reviews. The early reviews information you should take from them is the hardware analysis only. The software needs time test.
I think it's going to be a great device. I'm coming from an LG G2x, and believe me when I say that LG makes GREAT hardware. It was just the software which sucked. All the reviewers are biased, whether it's towards Samsung or Apple. If anything, you can just return the Nexus or get it exchanged if anything is wrong with it.
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There have been plenty of posts that sum up the issues and answer your question
1. All reviewers were testing on pre-release builds of the software
2. Maybe all the issues get quashed by the time they release the N4 to the public. Then again, maybe not.
Since you have held out so long, I suggest you stick with it for a week or two more. But if thats something you can't do (I know I can't ), just go ahead and get one.
Given the fact that Google has oriented the Nexus more towards users than towards the devs unlike the previous versions, I doubt they will overlook any hardware issues with the phone. Software glitches, if any, will be fixed soon.
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:good:what he said!
Go for it and enjoy state of the art development on XDA! Cool
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Go for it and enjoy state of the art development on XDA! Cool
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This. If anything (on the software front) could be fixed, it would be fixed by the XDA first. :good::good:
The verdict is that its not released yet.
Even from the reviews I don't see a single 1 dramatising even one of those problems as much as the people who cry on the forums (and haven't even held one).
Plus, any day of the year, only Anandtechs review is worth anything. They have always been unbiased, transparent and complete. Anand is like a robot.
What verdict? It's not released for consumers yet, order starts on Nov 13th.
Pretty sure we've got enough of these types of threads OP, feel free to continue the discussion in one of them :good:
Closed.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexus-5-and-Android-4.4-shown-off-in-7-minute-HD-video_id48235
nvm some one beat me to this here
It said it was running KLP in the settings, so I wonder if the software on this phone is older. It's possible that it's running an earlier build of 4.4 for developers and in house programmers. Google switched over to that whole "kitkat" marketing ploy so quick, I doubt it was a huge concern for the devs to change the name in their test builds. It's hard to tell what leaks are real and which are faked, but this one was pretty legit looking since we got to see the hardware itself. I wonder if the previous leak from this week showing the translucent on screen buttons and weird phone app icon is real. Either way, the build quality on this phone is really really nice. I can't wait to order one!
I think the specs for the OnePlus Three for the price are AMAZING and unbelievable, it's almost $150 less than the Nexus 6P, with 2016 flagship hardware, and the leaked pictures show it to be a very high quality crafted device. The new Three looks like a larger HTC 10, which is fine by me, as the 10 is a great smartphone.
But...
My biggest gripes with OPO are the slow Android updates. I recall Lollipop taking for god damn ever to officially make it out for the original One, like 6 months, or you could have installed the alpha CM11 at the time, which was pretty buggy until the bugs were worked out, obviously, but the official OnePlus One Lollipop OS update took a very long time.
This OnePlus Three will be lucky to see Android N within 90 days after the Nexus phones get it first in October, or you can install the alpha CM14 sooner on it, and live through all the kinks and bugs, that will have, while waiting for OPO to release N.
I thought one of the big features on these OPO phones being AOSP based, would have been super fast Android updates, not Nexus fast updates obviously, but at least faster than the skinned versions of Android like HTC, LG, Samsung, etc... but that hasn't been the case. I thought OnePlus would have the latest version of Android on them within like 30 days or so after Nexus phones, in reality they are worse than Samsung.
Bottom line; Great flagship hardware for a budget price. Beautiful design.
But...software is really amateur for an official professional phone release. I'd rather Cyanogen be back on board creating a stable pro CM13S for this phone. Oxygen OS still seems like some weekend development project.
OnePlus came late with their Android6.0 update for the OP2, so I share your concerns.
But the custom development for the OP3 will be great, so many ROMS there before the official updates.
And many other brands are also slow with updates, or even slower. (not an excuse for OnePlus )
I will go for the OP3 because:
to go for a device with guaranteed faster updates you limit your device choice, you will most likely pay a lot more, and the specs won't be much better, and the XDA development will most likely be worse.
So (expecting) slow updates is a legit disadvantage, but it doesn't win from the advantages in my opinion.
Good points thanks
Now let's see some real hands on reviews. How good is the AMOLED screen being in 1080p ? Is the build quality as high and great like HTC 10 ? Speaker sounds ? Feel in hand ?
I know hardware wise it's gonna be a champ.
I guess you did not see the news?
http://www.xda-developers.com/oxygenos-open-sourced-ahead-of-oneplus-3-launch/
Will that news get us Android N much faster ? I wanna see the OnePlus Three get Android N like 30 days after the Nexus phones, then i impressed.
I just got the one plus two yesterday, found out about the 3 two days after I ordered, ugh. No worries though, I believe it will be released by the 14th and that is well within my return period!
I can't even explain how cool just the box it comes in is! This is quality I would pay s7 prices for, hands down. I keep looking around for cops every time I pick up the phone, feels like I stole it! But seriously, the OTA's don't bother me a bit, they'll get here when they get here! I feel like the development here on xda will be enough to tide someone over until we get a proper image. I feel like this OP3 is going to be the banger for one plus all together.
The 1080p question the OP had, I honestly feel like that's just a marketing ploy by the big boys, can the naked eye really tell on a phone, even this size? For me personally, I don't notice anything! I honestly think you'll be able to look past both of those once you feel the box...lol!
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while we all are at xda, i don't really care about update from OP. You bet - the very first custom ROM will be available in weeks from June 14th and android N will be on OP# in days.
As someone who has paid top dollar for Samsung flagship phones, all I can say is that updates are slow here, too - maybe even slower than Oneplus .
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obviously it will be slower getting ota's compared to nexus devices. but the op3 should have a good dev community so i wouldn't worry.
how do we know there won't be development issues with the OP3 like there were with the OP2?
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how do we know there won't be development issues with the OP3 like there were with the OP2?
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We don't but as oos is open source and i think oneplus won't make the mistake twice, as the community will have a look, how they handle stuff
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We don't but as oos is open source and i think oneplus won't make the mistake twice, as the community will have a look, how they handle stuff
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Well, OOS isn't so "open-source". They forked CAF code and they put it on github.
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how do we know there won't be development issues with the OP3 like there were with the OP2?
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Maybe this forums.oneplus.net/threads/rom-6-0-1-unofficial-cyanogenmod-13.450156 answers your question.
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obviously it will be slower getting ota's compared to nexus devices. but the op3 should have a good dev community so i wouldn't worry.
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I don't care about the development community for any device. I judge a phone by the speed of its official updates.
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I don't care about the development community for any device. I judge a phone by the speed of its official updates.
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It will get N just not as fast as nexus but probably faster than samsung or lg.
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It will get N just not as fast as nexus but probably faster than samsung or lg.
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I wouldn't count on that. The oneplus team is very small and it took them longer than lg and Samsung to release marshmallow.
I'm considering replacing my Nexus 5 with OP3. Do they provide monthly security updates like google?
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There's a Telegram Super Group where Devs/Modders/Testers/Users can join and expect quick replies and updates.
Lets join it https://telegram.me/OnePlus_3
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Seriously considering getting one of these, just trying to justify the amount of money I need to spend to obtain one, at that point I will join the group.
First OTA update for the OP3
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First OTA update for the OP3
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Can you send me the boot.img from your device? I will remove verity checks and I am not sure if encryption is on by default, I can also remove that.
I've owned 2 Red Magic 3 devices. Not dissatisfied with my purchases, aside from some annoying software choices like lack of gesture navigation, etc. But I'm surprised that there aren't more people here talking about the fact that the Red Magic 3/3S will NOT be getting a single major software update to Android 10. The Red Magic 5G Global version has been sent to numerous YouTube reviewers and it comes with Android 10. Doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to get it running on the 3/3S. But I guess when you pay bare bones prices, you can't expect software support. Latest security patch released for the RM3 USA model was dated August, 2019. PATHETIC.
I've been thinking of the same off late, bar rm3 which released last May, it would still be very unfair on their latest release rm3s which had only update patch.
Even if we leave behind the major updates, nubia is still so bad at releasing security patches for rm3/3s.
For what we've paid, we definitely cannot compromise on the software with xiaomi and asus offering much better support for their respective black shark and rog phones. Would never come back to nubia again.
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I've owned 2 Red Magic 3 devices. Not dissatisfied with my purchases, aside from some annoying software choices like lack of gesture navigation, etc. But I'm surprised that there aren't more people here talking about the fact that the Red Magic 3/3S will NOT be getting a single major software update to Android 10. The Red Magic 5G Global version has been sent to numerous YouTube reviewers and it comes with Android 10. Doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to get it running on the 3/3S. But I guess when you pay bare bones prices, you can't expect software support.
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Do like me, I will never buy something from that brand again!
FYI the Android 10 on the RM5G has issues and the phone flat out sucks. I have had it for a while now. It will be the worse gaming phone of 2020.
Hahaha
slaphappy454 said:
FYI the Android 10 on the RM5G has issues and the phone flat out sucks. I have had it for a while now. It will be the worse gaming phone of 2020.
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This brand is garbage!
Nubia Never Again!
You should probably go cry somewhere else. I don't want Android 10. I didn't update to 9 on my old Oneplus 6. And I am not updating to Windows 10.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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You should probably go cry somewhere else. I don't want Android 10. I didn't update to 9 on my old Oneplus 6. And I am not updating to Windows 10.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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It is broke, ever heard of security patches?
vibraniumdroid said:
It is broke, ever heard of security patches?
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Ever hear of pornhub?
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FYI the Android 10 on the RM5G has issues and the phone flat out sucks. I have had it for a while now. It will be the worse gaming phone of 2020.
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Can you give any more details? Just curious what issues you are having with their Android 10 build. I've seen some YouTube reviews on the device and it seemed to work ok for the most part.
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Can you give any more details? Just curious what issues you are having with their Android 10 build. I've seen some YouTube reviews on the device and it seemed to work ok for the most part.
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Yeah that's on the RM5G. And is has trigger issues and a few other issues. That's not on the RM3 and RM3S.
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Yeah that's on the RM5G. And is has trigger issues and a few other issues. That's not on the RM3 and RM3S.
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Can you explain about those trigger problems? You mean accidently touching them?
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I've owned 2 Red Magic 3 devices. Not dissatisfied with my purchases, aside from some annoying software choices like lack of gesture navigation, etc. But I'm surprised that there aren't more people here talking about the fact that the Red Magic 3/3S will NOT be getting a single major software update to Android 10. The Red Magic 5G Global version has been sent to numerous YouTube reviewers and it comes with Android 10. Doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to get it running on the 3/3S. But I guess when you pay bare bones prices, you can't expect software support. Latest security patch released for the RM3 USA model was dated August, 2019. PATHETIC.
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No updates of security patch or Android version.
Impossible to talk to them, they release phones and then forget about them.
Don't make this mistake again.
Switch form ONEPLUS to Nubia what a quality difference, support and updates.
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Look up trigger problems. It's very well documented across pretty much every phone they sell with triggers.
OnePlus has crap quality as well. They just atleast atemp to fix stuff. Nubia at best may sell about 10,000 units total per device. Probably lower but the amount they sell is nothing. From some sales numbers no can tell you on eBay the ROG2 sold 8 to 1 vs the RM3S month to month. You get what you pay for. They won't ever release that update because if they do there is absolutely no reason to buy the RM5G.
qbom said:
No updates of security patch or Android version.
Impossible to talk to them, they release phones and then forget about them.
Don't make this mistake again.
Switch form ONEPLUS to Nubia what a quality difference, support and updates.
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They literally updated the phone 3 times until every bug was fixed to their, and my, satisfaction.
Remember that this is a gaming phone. And what do you expect from it? It doesn't need to be running the latest android versions.
What it needs is stability.
slaphappy454 said:
FYI the Android 10 on the RM5G has issues and the phone flat out sucks. I have had it for a while now. It will be the worse gaming phone of 2020.
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nabbed said:
They literally updated the phone 3 times until every bug was fixed to their, and my, satisfaction.
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Yeah? How are the navigation gestures working for you??? Oh wait... THERE ARE NONE! Because this feature which is BAKED INTO Android Pie doesn't work on this phone! They force you to use the antiquated 3 button navigation! This is just one of a ton of issues.
xphyle1971 said:
Yeah? How are the navigation gestures working for you??? Oh wait... THERE ARE NONE! Because this feature which is BAKED INTO Android Pie doesn't work on this phone! They force you to use the antiquated 3 button navigation! This is just one of a ton of issues.
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Funny you should ask, bro. I was just considering buying a Realme X50 Pro 5G for my gf, and I had to google if the navigation buttons were available in Android 10. Thankfully, they are. Enjoy your stupid gestures, I'll stick with my buttons. They are far superior to your gestures - instead of swiping, I can... gasp, click! Instead of swiping and holding, I can... gasp, click! Maybe I am just lazy - do more with less effort.
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Funny you should ask, bro. I was just considering buying a Realme X50 Pro 5G for my gf, and I had to google if the navigation buttons were available in Android 10. Thankfully, they are. Enjoy your stupid gestures, I'll stick with my buttons. They are far superior to your gestures - instead of swiping, I can... gasp, click! Instead of swiping and holding, I can... gasp, click! Maybe I am just lazy - do more with less effort.
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Yep. And enjoy the fact that you're getting way less screen real estate since your buttons will be occupying it. ??
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Yep. And enjoy the fact that you're getting way less screen real estate since your buttons will be occupying it. ?
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Hah. Real estate, eh? I put things to make me comfortable on my real estate.
Speaking of real estate. Do you know why you would even have "more" screen real estate on your phone? Around the time of Galaxy s8, 2016-2017 or so, phone manufacturers started to remove physical navigation buttons on phones. So they changed the screen aspect ratio from a standard 16:9 to something longer, 19:9 or so, to add more space for software buttons.
So you see, the reason why you even have more estate is because it was designed to contain those navigation buttons.
To this date, I don't really use or know any apps that can benefit from that space in any significant way. Even in landscape mode, RM3 puts the software buttons on the long side, where they were designed to go in the first place.
Shin025 said:
Remember that this is a gaming phone. And what do you expect from it? It doesn't need to be running the latest android versions.
What it needs is stability.
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Problem with Nubia is they are not community driven. What OnePlus did good was listening to customer reviews, suggestions and doing something for it.
Being gaming phone doesn't mean this brand can't give basic things. No security patches, No bug fixes, No fixes to their own gaming software.
Worst phone launch preps in India: I was not able to buy official accesories in India like Back cover, Docker not even Front screen protector. Bought everything from Ali express.
I have sent tones of emails to Nubia regarding bugs and trigger issues (it still is an issue on my phone), but there is no issue acknowledgment.
I even remember when they launched `Red magic time` I notified them with issues and they said there was no software release from their side.
Being a gaming phone it doesn't even do what it's built for (except for good thermals due to fan). Let me list some of them out -
Game Space (Gamer oriented stuff) -
1. It is built to enable fan, set performance, it doesn't let me record using red magic time when I want (crappy auto record feature). And it doesn't even record my in game voice (great thing for a gamer right?).
2. I have the 12 GB ram version of RM3, and when I start recording frame rate of game drops so bad that it makes me doubt that my other 6 gb ram might be watching pornhub in the background. (So no recording, for better fps. Good for gamer).
3. Trigger problems have made me disable it, not only it starts auto firing but clicking on my screen anywhere makes my trigger touch. Screen becomes hang (great for gamers i guess).
4. In game space, sometimes I am not able to open my notification panel, regardless of pulling it down with all my 10 fingers.
Camera (is not for gamers right?) -
1. I think they good hardware, but their software is the worst (and their excuse is it is gaming phone).
2. Slow motion recording, enabling it makes camera dark AF!!
Android auto -
Even smaller phones like Nokia support it but not Nubia (guess what it's a gaming phone)
Lock screen -
In a day or 2 my phone shows lock on my phone which I can't unlock with my correct pin, re-start is required.
Navigation -
Having no navigation gestures is not a deal breaker for me but no customisation for chaging position of buttons is what makes me sad. I think it was available in my OnePlus One which ran on kitkat.
Android Updates -
Every manufacturer usually follows a 18 months update cycle, where user expects software updates. Its not just about latest Android, what I expect is bug fixes, performance tweeks for games or community driven changes. (Which according to me Nubia is far away from).
Overall, I expected a lot of good things but was let down. Will not be recommending Nubia to anyone (which I was proud to, for OnePlus).