The red one I got off ebay sold as new has black side buttons not red buttons...
And although the red backing does have texture it has a little bit of flex if I push around the Motorola logo on the back...
Is the slight flexing normal and is it normal for the red model to sometimes come with black buttons not red?
And there was no Verizon SIM in the phone or box either. If the package was truly retail sealed then it would still have the SIM in it right mentioned in the package contents on the retail box?
I'm thinking these chinese are bull****ting me saying its sealed new but its refurbed and they just attach their own stickers to make it seem sealed/new.
Am I just being paranoid or is there any substance to it? Is there any software method that could tell a refurbed model?
Thanks.
I am certainly not an expert but I agree with you that it does not appear to be a new and unused one. SIM card detached from phone is not unusual, so can't tell just because of no SIM card.
I am not sure if Motorola/Verizon sell officially refurbished one, assuming they don't, you may check if the bootloader is unlocked. If yes, it would very likely be non-new one, as they do not unlock bootloaders. Otherwise, you may also check the version of android and ask the seller about when they get the handset. See if the dates match chronologically.
I am sorry that I do not have any more technical way to test. If I were you, I would ask for refund anyway if still can. Basically you cannot expect a new and unused one now, but you still can buy a used one much cheaper.
Oh, I am chinese too. No offense.
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I am certainly not an expert but I agree with you that it does not appear to be a new and unused one. SIM card detached from phone is not unusual, so can't tell just because of no SIM card.
I am not sure if Motorola/Verizon sell officially refurbished one, assuming they don't, you may check if the bootloader is unlocked. If yes, it would very likely be non-new one, as they do not unlock bootloaders. Otherwise, you may also check the version of android and ask the seller about when they get the handset. See if the dates match chronologically.
I am sorry that I do not have any more technical way to test. If I were you, I would ask for refund anyway if still can. Basically you cannot expect a new and unused one now, but you still can buy a used one much cheaper.
Oh, I am chinese too. No offense.
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I agree that it's not very likely there's any new/unused Droid Turbos out there in the wild. I mean, when the official model year was over and the Droid Turbo 2 (Kinzie) came out in late 2015 (the successor to Quark, which was a big disappointment -- smaller battery? still no rear camera OIS? Still no stereo speakers?) Verizon kept selling them for awhile, but in this is now 2017. If there were any stashes of unused Droid Turbos that were returned and then sold off to 3rd party wholesalers I'm sure they've been sold by now.
For example, the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 -- which is an exact clone of the Droid Turbo, event the exact same FCC ID and radio bands -- was sold by online discount wholesaler Jet for several weeks last year. (basically the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo with easily unlocked bootloader.) These were obviously from stock returned by the regional CDMA/LTE carriers who were selling the same phone as the Droid Turbo under another name. But now, you can't find any of those.
I still have a brand new Moto Maxx XT1225 in the box, my 3rd one I bought last spring (March/April 2015) new off eBay as a "backup" to my other two we use daily (which I bought in November and December 2014). But you can't find those any more either. Which is why I bought it when I did. Now, if I sell that 3rd one at some point before I ever have to use it, that one will still be NEW -- but then I'm not an eBay dealer promising many of these phones brand new. I think at this point in time (April 2017) there's none out there like that.
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The red one I got off ebay sold as new has black side buttons not red buttons...
And although the red backing does have texture it has a little bit of flex if I push around the Motorola logo on the back...
Is the slight flexing normal and is it normal for the red model to sometimes come with black buttons not red?
I'm thinking these chinese are bull****ting me saying its sealed new but its refurbed and they just attach their own stickers to make it seem sealed/new.
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I think you basically paid for a "mint" refurbished Droid Turbo. How much did you pay and is it worth that to you for a professionally refurbished phone with no scratches, etc? Your alternative is to buy used off eBay/Swappa in various states of mis-use.
The three Quarks I own (XT1225, the "international" variant of the Droid Turbo with 64GB memory only) are ballistic nylon + kevlar, and there is no flexing. However, yours is Kevlar-only, if it's red. (All the ballistic nylon + kevlar Quarks were either black or blue.) The Kevlar-only are thinner than the ballistic nylon + kevlar -- which is why they have TWO different case sizes for the Quarks. Maybe the Kevlar-only ones have some flexing? Put a case on it, you won't notice.
Even though mine are the thicker Ballistic Nylon + Kevlar, I still keep cases on the two Quarks we use daily (to keep them as mint as possible). Mine is a Diztronics TPU absorption case. My wife's has a "hard shell" red plastic case she's busted TWICE by dropping her phone. This last time it happened I ordered a dozen of them (like $1 each) off some website, so if she keeps doing that I've got replacements. Plus, who knows how long they're going to keep selling cases for the ballistic nylon + kevlar Quarks? (which are different size from the kevlar-only backed Quarks.) Point is, that's corner drop impacts the case took instead of the phone.
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I still have a brand new Moto Maxx XT1225 in the box, my 3rd one I bought last spring new off eBay as a "backup" to my other two we use daily. But you can't find those any more either. Which is why I bought it when I did. Now, if I sell it at some point before I ever have to use it, that one will still be NEW -- but I'm not an eBay dealer promising hundreds brand new.
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I don't mean to hijack this post, but would you share your plan on how much longer you intend to continue to use droid turbo? I am kinda paranoid on battery and this is quite the reason I chose droid turbo. I got mine which claimed to be brand new in June 2015 from a third party. The battery still looks good approaching two years of use and I can project its life for another year. As I live in Hong Kong and no one knows droid turbo, even if I can get a new battery online, I do not believe anyone including me have the ability to open the case and change the battery for me. I viewed videos from youtube and I admit that opening the case without damaging it is difficult.
It is a pity that while the spec is still not inferior as compared to the "flagships" today, we are unable to extend its life for long due to the battery. In fact, the hardware development in the recent couple of years is rather stagnant that when you buy a phone, you are just paying for a new battery for a phone with pretty much the same spec. I really wish to have some ideas on how I can make the life of my droid turbo longer.
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I still have a brand new Moto Maxx XT1225 in the box, my 3rd one I bought last spring (March/April 2015) new off eBay as a "backup" to my other two we use daily (which I bought in November and December 2014). But you can't find those any more either. Which is why I bought it when I did. Now, if I sell that 3rd one at some point before I ever have to use it, that one will still be NEW -- but then I'm not an eBay dealer promising many of these phones brand new. I think at this point in time (April 2017) there's none out there like that.
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I don't mean to hijack this post, but would you share your plan on how much longer you intend to continue to use droid turbo? I am kinda paranoid on battery and this is quite the reason I chose droid turbo. I got mine which claimed to be brand new in June 2015 from a third party. The battery still looks good approaching two years of use and I can project its life for another year.
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Well I have three of the XT1225, not the XT1254. But yes all Quarks have the same 3900 mAh battery, and except for internal memory variants (32GB or 64GB), they all have the same hardware specs. The XT1225 came in 64GB-only internal memory, while the XT1254 had options for 32GB or 64GB. The 64GB Quarks (whether XT1225 or XT1254) all came in Ballistic Nylon + Kevlar. The third Quark, the XT1250, only came in 32GB and with Kevlar-only.
I've kept this phone longer than any other I've ever owned. And I've been into Android phones since 2010, with the LG Optimus M. I always paid full price, never had a contract, upgraded every year or so to newer model and sold the old ones to recoup some of the cost. This is why the Nexus phones were so appealing (the gen3 Galaxy Nexus and the gen5 Nexus 5). They were top tier specs at a reasonable price brand new, and then could still command decent re-sell value later.
When Google really screwed up with the WHALE gen6 2014 Moto Nexus 6. Until then the number, if it was in the title was the generation model, NOT the screen size.
2010 gen1: HTC Nexus One was not 1". It was 3.7" (VERY close to 4"). "One" = FIRST Released end of January 2010.
2010 gen2: Samsung Nexus S was 4.0", 480p.
No number in the name. The only time Google released two Nexus phones the same calendar year. But it moved the release date of Google phones to the END of the year instead of the beginning.
2011 gen3: Samsung Galaxy Nexus, gen 3. 4.65", Super AMOLED 720p.
No number in the name, but first HD resolution Android. Made by Samsung and released halfway between their early 2011 Galaxy S2 and the 2012 Galaxy S3, the gen3 Galaxy Nexus was really a "Galaxy S2.5". It had a lot of the hardware specs/features the Galaxy S3 would have.
Halfway through the Galaxy Nexus model year, in June 2012 Google cut the price in half and started selling the unlocked phone online in its Google Store. This was the start of the "budget" premium phone reputation the Nexus brand had. The LG Nexus 4 and LG Nexus 5 continued this budget pricing.
2012 gen4: The LG Nexus 4 was NOT 4", it was 4.75" 720p. It was closer to 5" than 4", was the 3rd Nexus to be 4" or MORE -- but was the FOURTH Nexus phone. THAT is why it's called the Nexus 4. 4 = FOURTH
The LG Nexus 4 and the LG Optimus G were basically clones of each other, which hurt LG tremendously. Why would people pay $600 - $700 for the Optimus G in a carrier store when they could get the same phone for $350 in the Google Store?
[*]2013 gen5: The gen5 LG Nexus 5, was 4.95" -- just a little bigger than the 4.75" gen4 Nexus 4. It was the FIFTH NEXUS PHONE. Just coincidentally it was close to a 5" display, but that was just coincidence. 5 = FIFTH. (If Google wanted a 5.0" display, there were plenty available. They purposely chose a display UNDER 5.0". It was the Nexus 5 because it was the FIFTH NEXUS PHONE, PERIOD.)
Due to the Nexus 4/Optimus G mistake, LG tried to differentiate the LG Nexus 5 from the LG G2 by making the LG G2 be 5.2". But otherwise they were sibling phones with almost identical hardware specs. They were first phones to use the new Snapdragon 800, had 2GB RAM, and and among the first to have 1080p -- both with rear camera OIS. All cutting edge specs.
(2013 is the same year Motorola laughably released the first Moto X with 4.7", 720p display -- which was a direct copycat of LG's 2012 Optimus G/LG Nexus 4. LG and Motorola actually released both their flagship phones within a couple of weeks of each other. And Motorola did the same thing again in early 2014, producing an inferior COPY of the previous year's 2013 1080p LG G2 when LG released the 5.5" 1440p LG G3. Motorola was still playing catch up with specs, while LG had moved on -- which was why Google chose LG as their Nexus partner in 2013 even though they owned Motorola at the time. Motorola finally joined the big leagues in late 2014 with the duo of Shamu and Quark phones. The Quark especially was IMPRESSIVE. However, since Lenovo bought them they have regressed backwards, in my opinion. The 2015 Kinzie did not improve upon the two deficiencies of the Quark -- lack of stereo speakers and rear camera OIS. And the mod phones are silly, I want EVERYTHING I need in the phone to begin with -- including stereo speakers, Qi wireless and a big battery.)
THEREFORE, the 6th Nexus phone would only be the 6th phone, not necessarily 6 freaking inches. Until then, Google had actually taken display averages of the most popular mainstream phones to be the display new Nexus phone. This is why the 2013 LG Nexus 5 was 4.95" instead of 5.0" -- even though there were 5.0" displays available. No, I have no internal Google documents proving that but I did the math every year and I was always right. My math showed the average display for end of 2013 would be 4.948" and they released a 4.95" phone. My math showed the average display for end of 2013 would be 5.2" -- and Google instead released a 5.95" phone.
It was a HUGE mistake in 2014, and Google has admitted that by releasing increasingly smaller sizes in 2015 (5.7") and 2016 (5.5").
Yet, there's plenty of evidence, Google/Motorola was testing two Nexus 6 variants - a 5.2" Shamu as late as mid-August 2014 as well as the 5.95" Shamu whale. We saw the leaked benchmarks! Instead of releasing the more mainstream variant (5.2") or releasing BOTH (two sizes like Apple did first), Google screwed up and chose the whale. Motorola has even said more recently that Google made that disastrous decision against their own recommendations.
Motorola then released the 2014 5.2" Quark which has 95% the same specs as the Moto Nexus 6. It's clear it was either the repurposed 5.2" Shamu variant or was on very similar dual track development (like the 2012 LG Optimus G and LG Nexus 4, and the 2013 LG G2 and LG Nexus 5). Whatever, the Quark became MY Nexus 6. It's the best phone I have even owned (5.2" 1440p, 3GB RAM, Qi wireless, 64GB internal memory, 21MP camera, QuickCharge 2.0) and still holds up spectacularly. Only now in 2017 with phones like the Galaxy S8 do you see some aging. Yes, I wish the Quark had the stereo speakers and rear camera OIS the Nexus 6 has, and Motorola could have easily put those in considering the price they charged.
I bought the XT1225 for the LTE bands (I'm on AT&T) and for the 64GB memory.
Our two daily phones are still OK. But I can top off at work when I need to (I keep a QuickCharge 2.0 charger with 10-ft USB cable in my work bag), and I have QuickCharge 2.0 car chargers in both our cars for when we are driving. Since I always use Waze navigation app when driving, it's very battery intensive so I keep my phone plugged in.
How long will I keep using them? The LG G6 would have been a good replacement if LG had the sense to include ALL the premium features (Qi wireless charging, 64GB memory, DAC) in ONE phone and sell it to the world, instead of making regional variants. I'm not giving up Qi wireless charging and I'm not going to buy a phone with less than 64GB internal memory.
I'll keep using the Quark until it dies (and I have a new spare still in the box!) or until someone releases a phone that meets my standards...
The ZTE Axon 7 specs impressed me greatly (5.5", 1440p AMOLED, DAC, front facing speakers, 64/128GB internal memory, 4GB/6GB RAM, $400/$500) -- but there's no Qi wireless charging.
The Galaxy S8 has great specs (Qi wireless, 64GB, etc) , but unless I can root it to remove bloatware and install custom ROMs, I'm not touching it.
OnePlus 3T only has 1080p and no Qi wireless charging.
Maybe Google will come to their senses and release a good Pixel 2 phone later this year. I'm NOT impressed by last years Pixel phone which didn't even have Qi wireless charging. But it had HUGE bezels!
The 2018 LG G7 will have AMOLED, and maybe LG will realize we all want premium features. ZTE may release an Axon 8 with Qi wireless, plus all the stuff they crammed into the Axon 7.
or OnePlus may finally decide to join the Big Boys and release a phone with 1440p and Qi wireless charging.
zhaoyun said:
As I live in Hong Kong and no one knows droid turbo, even if I can get a new battery online, I do not believe anyone including me have the ability to open the case and change the battery for me. I viewed videos from youtube and I admit that opening the case without damaging it is difficult.
It is a pity that while the spec is still not inferior as compared to the "flagships" today, we are unable to extend its life for long due to the battery. In fact, the hardware development in the recent couple of years is rather stagnant that when you buy a phone, you are just paying for a new battery for a phone with pretty much the same spec. I really wish to have some ideas on how I can make the life of my droid turbo longer.
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Yeah, there was just an exchange about that battery replacement difficulty yesterday over in the RR 7.x thread:
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I know about this before but I want to reask... has someone change their battery out yet? And if they did was it fairly easy? And how is the battery? And did it fix the random power off issues?
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Yes, no, great, no
IF you have a heat gun, it'll be easier to separate the phone (I hear). I took out the volume rocker (SIM card holder) and started separating there, it's a little hard to get the phone apart. It's not like it just "snaps", there's adhesive inside. I also jacked my headphone input a bit, but, it still works, so be careful around the top of the phone.
Also, left, right, and top come apart first, bottom last.
There are videos on the YouTube for it, which shows you step-by-step, just use Gooble
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I did. Its sort of a pain getting the cover off but I imagine it wouldn't be so bad if you had the proper tool. I saw on YouTube a guy used a guitar pick and it worked well. I ended up having to order a new cover for about $10 on eBay. I never had random power issues but just knew she was getting worn out.
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I paid $175USD.
also paid the $25 for sunshine.
Haven't had any problems apart from the phone getting a little hot after some tetris blitzing but that game did it to my flex 2 as well
and I'm quite enjoying the Open Kang 7.1
I can thrash the phone all day and I only need to charge it once or twice every 2 days
I guess I can't complain too much as long as it doesn't explode or cease to function...
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I paid $175USD.
also paid the $25 for sunshine.
Haven't had any problems apart from the phone getting a little hot after some tetris blitzing but that game did it to my flex 2 as well
and I'm quite enjoying the Open Kang 7.1
I can thrash the phone all day and I only need to charge it once or twice every 2 days
I guess I can't complain too much as long as it doesn't explode or cease to function...
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It is operating quite well. Mine also gets very hot while playing games, but its already less hot after upgrading the marshmallow. All I can advise is enjoy the phone as it is, and just don't leave it unattended while charging.
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The ZTE Axon 7 specs impressed me greatly (5.5", 1440p AMOLED, DAC, front facing speakers, 64/128GB internal memory, 4GB/6GB RAM, $400/$500) -- but there's no Qi wireless charging.
The Galaxy S8 has great specs (Qi wireless, 64GB, etc) , but unless I can root it to remove bloatware and install custom ROMs, I'm not touching it.
OnePlus 3T only has 1080p and no Qi wireless charging.
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Guess you could do Qi charging on the Axon with this ----> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M11UT3...e=df0&creative=395129&creativeASIN=B01M11UT3V
And then put a case over the whole thing.
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I've been awarded an insurance payout for my LG G2, a phone that I love and really don't have any problems with. I have the option of paying for LG to repair the device, or to apply the new funds to a new phone, I'm thinking the 5X. I'm torn between the two. The specs on the G2 have been more than enough for me. I'm envious of newer flagships cameras vs the G2... Though I'm not sure about the camera on the 5X.
I'm very interested in having OS updates directly from google, but truthfully, I'm also a heavy user of Xposed, and can't see myself being an early adopter of M anyway. I'm worried that the 2GB of ram and mid range processor on the 5X could pose a problem for future OS updates (Post Android M). I'm also curious about the G5, but given the form factor trend getting larger and larger, G3 and G4, I highly doubt they're going to to back to the smaller size that I love w/ the G2/Nexus5/Nexus5X. My most important factors are Camera, battery life, and form factor with a strong preference for future proofing/performance... aka ram and processor.
Given the choice of repairing the G2 for 150 dollars (and waiting for a future device down the road) or receiving 150 dollars off the purchase of a new Nexus 5X... what would you choose?
I was eagerly awaiting the announcement of the new nexus 5, but like many was disappointed with the result. It has a slight performance bump due to sd808/adreno418, a potentially better camera and a fingerprint sensor, but it's also physically MUCH bigger than the G2 despite the same screen size and yet also has a smaller battery. If I'm going to go with a bigger device overall, I'd rather have the bigger screen and battery to go with it.
I actually purchased a brand new (not refurbished) G2 relatively recently and am glad I did. I don't see many phones coming with the same size/performance balance. If I were you, I would take the money and see if I could find newish (not refurbished) G2 for less than $200. The key is getting a fresh battery, and there's no guarantee there with a refurb or repair. Look on swappa/eBay. This phone still has a lot of life left.
Have you considered the Moto X Pure Edition. I think it should check all your boxes and is only $20 more than the 5X.
yes, mach01, I think you're right, the Moto X seems the better buy vs the nexus, developer community aside. I'm back to leaning towards @xdabbeb's opinion though... getting the G2 repaired w/ a battery replacement. I'm wildly disappointed w/ LG's hardware support team, there doesn't seem to be any way for them to add a new battery to the repair... even after offering to pay for it. Might have a local shop in the area do it instead. I hope that the community doesn't drop dead for the G2.... I'd really like to get Doze (and android M) on the G2, but bigger and better devices are on the horizon, and I can't fault others for wanting to jump ship.
Let me just put it this way.... I have owned the G2 since it came out. Bought it brand new straight from Verizon the first week it was out if I recall correctly. I have used and abused it every day since then (2 years). Running xdabbeb's Rom with his kernel and xcam my G2 beat every phone that came out in 2014, in battery life, size, speed, and camera quality. Literally I couldnt find a decent excuse to upgrade. So solid. Then about a month ago my digitizer started going out. Couldn't swipe anymore. Thats a deal breaker for me. So I started looking. Ended up going with the Moto X Pure 2015 because I wanted front facing speakers and custom colors. And so far it has been a great choice. However comparing the phones side by side I would say the G2 still holds its own. Its my favorite 5 inch device still to this day. My favorite phablet is the new moto x. Anyways I say all that to throw my hat in with the G2 "best 5 inch phone award", especially with the modding community headed up by xdabbeb. Great stuff and still the 5 inch phone I would recommend for the money, as long as the person buying it is planning on modding it. Without modding it the phone is pretty laggy and has issues.
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Did you ever get to decide on which device u would move forward with? Am faced with the same dilemma u were facing a while ago.
I had been planning to jump on the Nexus 6P once it was widely available, but with the SD 810 in it I'm just not sold. I wanted to get some opinions if I should snag an N6 or hold out for next year's Nexus (or other SD 820 phone). I had a Galaxy Nexus (Verizon) prior to my LG G2 (Sprint), and while I love the G2 I sorta miss being on the Nexus platform. I've ran the ParanoidAndroid ROM for years and I really love vanilla Android, although it seems PA may not be as common on these phones as it has been on the GNex and G2.
I would like to have a bigger screen (although the 6" screen scares me a bit, but I do like my wife's Note 2). Is going from a SD800/2GB memory to the 805/3GB of the N6 a decent performance upgrade? My G2 isn't slow, but could be snappier.
Anyway, what's everyone's opinion? And if I do switch, and specific info I should be aware of about the N6? I did see that for Sprint network it sounds like I'll need the XT1103 model.
I made the switch from the G3 and I couldn't be happier. Why not look at the 5X if screen size is a concern for you?
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I made the switch from the G3 and I couldn't be happier. Why not look at the 5X if screen size is a concern for you?
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I do want a bigger screen. I think the Note 2 is about perfect, although the N6 isn't really that much bigger. *googles picture comparison* actually pretty much the same, so scratch that concern off the list
I have had the N6 since February of this year and I'm entirely happy with the phone. The only phone I would replace it with would be a phone with a Qualcomm 820 made by Motorola. I had a Samsung note 3 before this phone that and Verizon told me I was dropping 7% of my calls. I live in a fringe area of Phoenix and Verizon said they are not going to build any more powers out here. I bought this N6 Motorola Phone 8 months ago and I've had one dropped call since then and I'm not sure if the call dropped or the guy just hung up on me. So, my next phone will be Motorola and there will be a Qualcomm 820 and until then I am entirely satisfied with this phone
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I came from a G2. Trying to run AOSP on anything that's not a Nexus is an abomination. The Nexus 6 is far and away a much better device. The size won't take long for you to get used to, in fact...you won't ever want to go back to a smaller size again.
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I came from a G2. Trying to run AOSP on anything that's not a Nexus is an abomination. The Nexus 6 is far and away a much better device. The size won't take long for you to get used to, in fact...you won't ever want to go back to a smaller size again.
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Yeah I'm searching for a good deal on one now
I tried to snag one off Ebay that was posted on the general tab, $299 with $20 coupon, but the coupons we're working. Didn't want to jump that fast on a 32gb white one, try to find at least a blue or possibly a 64gb for not much more.
Amazon has like new 64gb units for 339.00. I bought one 2 weeks ago.
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Amazon has like new 64gb units for 339.00. I bought one 2 weeks ago.
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Looks like those are gone now....were they listed as Used - Like New by 3rd party sellers?
they were listed as used (like new) from amazon warehouse. the box had some cosmetic imperfections but the device looked brand new.
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they were listed as used (like new) from amazon warehouse. the box had some cosmetic imperfections but the device looked brand new.
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Woot got one! They showed up as Amazon warehouse in very good condition. Sounds like packaging issues again but we'll see when it gets here. $339. 99 on prime
Hello guys.
I don't know if motorola droid turbo worth buying now in 2016 since it has been released in 2014 with Snap 805 which is a 32 bit processor.
So i need some help from you guys is this a good choice now ?
The Resolution, Super AMOLED Screen with top quality material and of course the battery capacity with Fast battery charging 2.0 are noticable facts.
So What do you think ?
Thank you .
It's definitely still a good midrange phone. I actually just pulled mine out today. Was ahead of its time and still keeps up pretty well. It all comes down to the price, honestly.
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Right. Ahead of its time and has kept up. Not many "mid-range" phones have 3GB RAM. Most have 2GB.
And several other features "mid-range" phones don't have.
decent quad core Snapdragon 8xx series chipset
3 GB RAM
3900 mAh battery.
64GB storage (at least mine has that)
Qi wireless charging (Google screwed up by removing that from the 2015 Nexus phones)
AMOLED display (even Apple is moving to that. I already have it)
1440p display (no Apple phone has that, and still only top tier Androids do)
IR sensors (tell me what new mid-range phones have this?)
ballistic nylon back (which is REALLY ballistic nylon + kevlar underneath. This is why the ballistic nylon option is better -- it's ballistic nylon AND kevlar, instead of kevlar only. Quite unique among phones and no "mid-range" phones have that.)
I still think of it as a top tier phone even though I know the specs are 1.5 years old. Last summer I won a 2015 LG G4 I never even used because I like this phone so much. I even bought a 3rd one recently, to have a backup. (My wife uses my 2nd one.)
If only it had rear camera OIS and stereo speakers... This was the phone Google should have released as the gen6 Nexus, instead of the "whale". Except for those two options, it's identical to the Moto Nexus 6, except in a better size.
Considering that you can get a used Turbo in good condition starting at $150 yes its a good deal. This is my 2nd one and my wife has one as well. I am switching devices this week because I plan to use my phone outside a lot the next few months and the Turbo screen isnt very good in the sun.
I bought mine 250€ brand new one month ago from eBay. I think it's the best you can get for that much money here in France, it may be cheaper in other countries like U.S. for example. Good QuadCore + AMOLED 1440p + 3900MaH + Nice design. This phone is the only with these kind of specs at this price.
I've had my turbo for several years now, replaced the screen once and last night I replaced the power button. That was a *****.
I love the screen resolution, overall size, the battery and Lollipop.
So whats next?
I have looked at the Google Pixel, Moto Z Force and Moto Z2 Play xt1710-01. Mostly leaning towards the Z2 Play for the root ability.
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I've had my turbo for several years now, replaced the screen once and last night I replaced the power button. That was a *****.
I love the screen resolution, overall size, the battery and Lollipop.
So whats next?
I have looked at the Google Pixel, Moto Z Force and Moto Z2 Play xt1710-01. Mostly leaning towards the Z2 Play for the root ability.
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LG V30/V30+/V30S is the hands down winner.
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The Droid Turbo and its siblings have held up well with age. Like @ChazzMatt I am migrating to lg v30's. What I do like about the v30 is the louder speaker, faster camera, and brighter screen. The extra memory and tray for an sdcard are a bonus. The downside for the mod community is complexity, there are sooo many variants.
I could certainly be happy sticking with a Turbo, but the reality is that it isn't made any longer and will become more difficult for software devs to support, as well. It's good to have an exit strategy.
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In early 2017 I started looking waiting for new phones (and then eliminating them) that could replace my beloved Quark, without losing any features like QHD (1440p) OLED, Qi wireless charging, and 3.5mm headset jack. While also GAINING features that have become de rigueur for premium Android phones, like IP68 dust/water resistance and fingerprint sensor.
I also wanted to be able to root the phone to keep total control.
The LG V30 is the only phone to match all my specifications as well comfort in size.
WTF -- LG V30/V30+ Bootloader Unlock and Root (MOST VARIANTS)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/wtf-lg-v30-t3790500/post76584629#post76584629
You don't even need a "Verizon" LG V30 or whatever carrier you use. You can cross flash what you need to end up with what you want.
Here's one guy who switched to LG V30..
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Thank you ChazzMatt. If it was't for you I'd still be using my xt1254!
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I own five of these now -- because you can get MINT "Sprint" LS998 V30+ (128GB internal storage + microSD card) for $320 on eBay. In 10 minutes there are NO LONGER Sprint LS998, they become official carrier unlocked US998. You can even flash Verizon stuff on there if that's what you want...
See this post if you want to know more:
Which LG V30 to choose for bootloader unlock and root?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77011350&postcount=3
It was hard to let go of the Turbo, and I still have one as a backup/travel phone. I liked them so much I replaced the usb connector on one, not fun.
My experience with the v30 so far is that it is more than a worthy replacement for all the reasons cited by @ChazzMatt. Another positive thing to mention is increased ROM development activity now that bootloader unlock has been achieved. That should help keep software up-to-date long after LG and the carriers stop providing OS upgrades and security patches.
If you do go this route, be aware that the v30's are slippery so a case is a good idea. There is a nice thread at https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/accessories/lg-v30-t3667430 with experiences and recommendations. The clear Spigen "Air Cushion" has worked well for me.
Thanks for the replies. I will go look at the LG V30. There is so many phones today.
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Great info ChazzMatt! Pulled the trigger on a LG V30 yesterday. (My Turbo is still rocking because of this killer group of devs and folks like you.) I just couldn't pass this up for a chance for a newer device with BL unlock and great audio specs. The Verizon bonus is icing on the cake. :good:
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Yeah, I've seen you now over in the V30 forum in the past month! Smart decision. For Verizon users here on XDA, the Droid Turbo is officially END OF LIFE.
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END OF CDMA COMING!
Verizon is shutting off CDMA at end of 2019. Verizon will become LTE-only network, which means you will need a phone with VoLTE on Verizon, by end of next year.
People NOT on Verizon don't care. But for people on Verizon using the XT1254/XT1250 with custom ROMs, you've got less than 1.5 years to get another phone. Or go back to stock Verizon Marshmallow for VoLTE?
For people looking for another phone, the LG V30/V30+/V30S is fantastic. For Verizon users you don't even need a "Verizon" branded model, you can convert any North America V30 variantl (like the Sprint LS998 V30+, mint $320 -- with 128GB internal storage and 4GB RAM. I bought two of those.) to use for Verizon. Many people have done that. Bootloader unlock, TWRP and root and [URL="https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development"]custom ROMs available[/URL]. Just do NOT NOT buy T-mobile H932. All V30/V30+/V30S -- EXCEPT for T-mobile H932 -- can be bootloader unlocked and rooted. Then you can use on whatever carrier you want -- including Verizon with VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling. See here for one smart blonde female Verizon user on V30 custom ROM.
The LG V30 is the one phone with all the specs of the Quark + more. I didn't lose anything.
OLED 1440p QHD,
Qi wireless charging,
4GB/6GB RAM,
64GB/128GB/256GB internal memory,
microSD card storage
dual rear cameras with OIS
headset jack with quad DAC,
IP68,
fingerprint sensor.
Bootloader unlock, TWRP, root, custom ROMs.
NO OTHER PHONE HAS ALL THAT. Not even the Pixel 2 XL (no headset jack, no Qi wireless charging). Not the stupid OnePlus (no 1440p QHD, no Qi wireless charging, no IP rating whatsoever -- much less IP68)
But you've still got plenty of time to switch! (end of 2019) Just want to let everyone be informed.
However, if you are on Verizon and thinking of switching, now might be time to sell the Droid Turbo.
I've been following news about Verizon's CDMA shutdown plans, too. Something a bit confusing about the Turbo vs the v30's is the protocol used for calling. It sounds like the Turbo uses VoLTE and CDMA/3G for calling and the v30's use VoLTE, LTE and if necessary drops to 3G? If that logic is correct, then the Turbo loses the ability to make and receive calls on custom roms like Lineage, RR and breatheren after the CDMA shutdown.
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I've been following news about Verizon's CDMA shutdown plans, too. Something a bit confusing about the Turbo vs the v30's is the protocol used for calling. It sounds like the Turbo uses VoLTE and CDMA/3G for calling and the v30's use VoLTE, LTE and if necessary drops to 3G? If that logic is correct, then the Turbo loses the ability to make and receive calls on custom roms like Lineage, RR and breatheren after the CDMA shutdown.
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Yes, exactly.
On the Quarks (XT1225, XT1254, XT1250), VoLTE is only on Verizon network for XT1254/XT1250 on stock Verizon XT1254 firmware (with most "recent" being Marshmallow in December 2016) or the one ROM based on stock Verizon Marshmallow firmware (again, most "recent" is taken from December 2016 firmware). Even then, again that Verizon VoLTE ONLY works on Verizon network. It's a Verizon-only feature, which I do not understand. Motorola could have given ALL Quarks VoLTE for many, many carriers -- but chose not to do that.
We only have Nougat and Oreo ROMs (after Marshmallow) for Quark thanks to @bhb27 kernel work -- but no Nougat or Oreo Quark ROMs have VoLTE. Do you want current security updates, custom features -- or VoLTE? Many choose custom ROMs like this, even on Verizon! The features and updates are just to good to pass up.
So, those users have LTE -- until a phone call comes in. Then they drop down to CDMA for the duration of the phone call for VOICE, but they don't get data during that time (unlike 3G HSPA which does voice + data).
But come end of next year, there will be no CDMA to fall back on, therefore no voice calls without VoLTE. 2014 Droid Turbo that is rooted, running custom LOS-based ROMs is End of Life. You would have to go back to stock Marshmallow or the one stock-based Marshmallow ROM (way outdated!) to have VoLTE on Verizon. It was a good phone. Time to let it rest in peace. The LG V30 is a great successor, with all the same features and more.
Now the XT1225 does not fall into this category (it doesn't even have CDMA, but instead has more LTE and HSPA bands), nor does any XT1254/XT1250 being used on OTHER carriers. For instance, AT&T is keeping their 3G HSPA indefinitely PLUS LTE. It's only U.S. Verizon users using rooted LOS-based custom ROMs (any Nougat or Oreo ROMs) that need to find another phone.
No doubt Turbos will be running strong even after 18 more months. Perhaps in that time a breakthrough will be made in understanding Verizon's implementation of VoLTE so the feature can be added broadly to custom roms. I would help in anyway possible with testing or a device or two for a skilled dev. Wouldn't it be hilarious if that happened after the CDMA shutdown? Resurrection would be an apt name for the ROM on a Turbo!
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No doubt Turbos will be running strong even after 18 more months. Perhaps in that time a breakthrough will be made in understanding Verizon's implementation of VoLTE so the feature can be added broadly to custom roms. I would help in anyway possible with testing or a device or two for a skilled dev. Wouldn't it be hilarious if that happened after the CDMA shutdown? Resurrection would be an apt name for the ROM on a Turbo!
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Anything can happen. But by then will be a 5 year old phone. I used my Quarks on AT&T for 3 years (December 2014 - December 2017). Took them to Brazil a couple of times, used them there. Outstanding phone.
But using my LG V30+ now for a few months, I can see how the technology has improved. I now have instant fingerprint sensor on the back to unlock my phone. I have IP68 water proofing. I have 6" almost zero bezel OLED display. I have OIS, on my camera -- which Motorola should have given the Quarks, since they gave it to the 2014 Nexus 6! I have dual cameras on the back, one for regular shots, one for wide angels. I have more RAM, so no lag. I have 128GB internal memory + microSD card. (V30 has 64GB internal memory, my wife has that.)
Mint, $320 on eBay for V30+.
As much as I loved the Quark, the V30/V30+/V30S is a great successor.
@ChazzMatt
First of all, thank you so much for all your help with all things Quark. You're like the conscious of the Quark forums. I'm planning on switching to a LG V30 based on your recommendation. I see they have different storage capabilities. What is the advantage of bigger internal storage when you can just use a SD card?
Thanks again for all your help in the past and future.
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@ChazzMatt
First of all, thank you so much for all your help with all things Quark. You're like the conscious of the Quark forums. I'm planning on switching to a LG V30 based on your recommendation. I see they have different storage capabilities. What is the advantage of bigger internal storage when you can just use a SD card?
Thanks again for all your help in the past and future.
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Some apps NEED internal storage vs SD storage card. Also, I see different abilities to edit pictures (in Gallery) based on whether they're saved to internal storage vs SD storage card.
Music is great for SD storage card. But always choose more internal storage when you can.
Right now the "mint" LS998 V30+ with 128GB ($320) seems to be the sweet spot (immediately converted to another model, of course). The V30S with 256GB is too much more money. The V30 with just 64GB internal storage is often just as much money as the V30+.
Sunsetting my beloved XT1254
So we're a few months down the line in this thread. I've got a couple apps that I use frequently that are only updating through the Google play store to Android 8.0 Oreo. Is it worth going through all the hassle of modifying build, TWRP, rooting, unlocking, etc (which is fairly complicated given that I've been out of tech for about 15 years and have never worked on phones) or upgrading to either the aforementioned LG V30+ or what looks to be a monster batteried Blackview VB9500 since we're nearing the end of this phone's lifespan?
I finally upgraded my beloved XT1254 for a OnePlus 6T on Verizon network last week. I find that all the reasons I rooted my XT1254 (Verizon bloatware, Titanium, Greenify for battery life, rooted apps to make XT look like more current Android O or P, etc.) no longer apply on a new device. Perhaps after a few yrs rooting will be desirable again as mfg support disappears.
More turbos when the ones I have die
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I finally upgraded my beloved XT1254 for a OnePlus 6T on Verizon network last week. I find that all the reasons I rooted my XT1254 (Verizon bloatware, Titanium, Greenify for battery life, rooted apps to make XT look like more current Android O or P, etc.) no longer apply on a new device. Perhaps after a few yrs rooting will be desirable again as mfg support disappears.
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Sorry you had to downgrade. No headset jack, no 1440p, no wireless charging on OnePlus. Also no IP RATING, which all current premium phones have.
LG V30 has all that and more. It's the true successor to the Droid Turbo.
Plus, you can root your phone to OWN your phone.
@schwinn8, @gimpy1, @nnjimmy59, and a half dozen other Droid Turbo owners have joined us in the LG V30 forum...
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I was jealous of my wife's new phone, so she is getting me one for Xmas now... so I'll be off my Turbo soon!
For those interested, I can recommend the ebay store I bought ours from, since they are BNIB units... and the store just dropped the price a bit more, so it's $299 for a brand new 64GB version! https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-64GB-US-Cellular-Smartphone-Silver-Mint/173602248812
As ChazzMatt was right to point out, ignore the "US Cellular" mentions... it ran on Total Wireless (VZ MVNO) without ANY modifications. I still went to VS996 anyway, (he flashed US998 to Verizon VS996 firmware after bootloader unlock and root) but it's not limited to US Cellular in any way, contrary to the listing.
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@schwinn8, the middle option below is your phone. It's there because of you. But posting all this here so others can choose which one they want.
Holidays coming up. Here's THREE great deals on 64GB V30/128GB V30+ on eBay below. You always need a spare! Also, very likely eBay will suddenly throw out one of their site-wide 15%-20% off coupons around Black Friday or Cyber Monday? I'm just guessing. They tend to do that around various holidays. A bunch of us bought "mint" V30+ for ADDITIONAL 20% off "Buy It Now" price during Father's Day week.
* LG V30 LS998- 128GB - Titan Black (Sprint) Smartphone A Mint - $299
I've bought from that guy several times or had others buy from him. Just make sure you get the "mint" one. Use Frankenstein to convert to US998 or Verizon VS996. Or convert to US998, bootloader unlock, install TWRP, root -- and THEN convert to Verizon VS996, like @schwinn8 did. But US998 also works on Verizon; US998 works on ANY North American carrier.
OR if you want BRAND NEW IN BOX -- with 2-year LG warranty:
* BRAND NEW IN BOX - LG V30 US998 64GB US Cellular Smartphone-Silver - $299
Same price as the "mint" V30+ but it's NEW and already US998...
* BRAND NEW IN BOX. Ignore that the listing title says "mint" -- the listing itself makes clear it's brand new AND the two users above bought THREE of these new V30 and can verify it's BRAND NEW and eligible for 2-year LG warranty. I've re-written the listing title above to be what it SHOULD say.
* Also ignore the statement it's for "U.S. Cellular only". It's a genuine, new US998 V30+. Seems to be U.S. Cellular overstock, but we all know all US998 are carrier unlocked. The ONLY difference between the B&H Photo "open market" US998 and the U.S. Cellular US998 was the "open market" was eligible for OFFICIAL bootloader unlock. We don't need that with WTF. This thread has a MUCH simpler bootloader unlock for US998 than the OFFICIAL LG bootloader unlock (which I did for one of my V30). Many, many people have bought U.S. Cellular US998 here in this forum and know they are carrier unlocked. That's just leftover language from OTHER U.S. Cellular phones they sell.
REMOVED THE THIRD LISTING, WHICH WAS FOR NEW V30+ -- AS THE SELLER IS SHIPPING 64GB V30 IN A V30+ BOX. I RETURNED MINE AND GETTING A REFUND.
LG V30/V30+
1440P OLED (537 ppi)
Qi wireless charging
3.5mm headset jack
Quad DAC
IP68 dust/water resistance
rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
superfast fingerprint sensor
64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
microSD port for additional storage
bootloader unlock and root
no notch
Just make sure you buy a decent case, like Spigen. These V30 can be slippery as fish wiggling around. Love this one.
Spigen Rugged Armor LG V30 with Resilient Shock Absorption and Carbon Fiber Design for LG V30 (2017) - Black
https://www.amazon.com/Spigen-Rugged-Resilient-Absorption-Carbon/dp/B071JV1L9Z?ref_=nav_ya_signin&
One plus 6t not a downgrade to me at all we each have our own priorities, mine were 845,8 and 256 at 629$ plus no bloat, phenomenal battery life, Android pie out of the box, smooth and fast performance, embrace diversity ?
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One plus 6t not a downgrade to me at all we each have our own priorities, mine were 845,8 and 256 at 629$ plus no bloat, phenomenal battery life, Android pie out of the box, smooth and fast performance, embrace diversity
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It is a downgrade since you lost so many features. With my v30, I didn't lose any -- I even gained some more.
I care more about premium features like our Moto Quark had, than pretender phones that claim to as good as flagship but aren't.
LG V30/V30+
1440P OLED (537 ppi)
Qi wireless charging
3.5mm headset jack
Quad DAC
IP68 dust/water resistance
rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
superfast fingerprint sensor
64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
microSD port for additional storage
bootloader unlock and root
no notch
I count 8 items on that list that OnePlus 6T does NOT have. I hate OnePlus almost as much as I hate Apple.
Plus you paid twice as much as you had to. Looks like you didn't even read my post or you would not have told your price.
@schwinn8, @gimpy1, @nnjimmy59
ChazzMatt said:
It is a downgrade since you lost so many features. With my v30, I didn't lose any -- I even gained some more.
I care more about premium features like our Moto Quark had, than pretender phones that claim to as good as flagship but aren't.
LG V30/V30+
1440P OLED (537 ppi)
Qi wireless charging
3.5mm headset jack
Quad DAC
IP68 dust/water resistance
rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
superfast fingerprint sensor
64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
microSD port for additional storage
bootloader unlock and root
no notch
I count 8 items on that list that OnePlus 6T does NOT have. I hate OnePlus almost as much as I hate Apple.
Plus you paid twice as much as you had to. Looks like you didn't even read my post or you would not have told your price.
@schwinn8, @gimpy1, @nnjimmy59
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I have to wonder who you are trying to convince that the LG V30 is the greatest and only choice, me or yourself?
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I have to wonder who you are trying to convince that the LG V30 is the greatest and only choice, me or yourself?
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The other people, so they don't make a mistake and get a "new" phone inferor in so many ways to even the 2014 Droid Turbo.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Ok I conceed the V30 is absolutely the best phone available today or in the foreseeable future and anyone considering purchase of any other device will not be happy with their inferior purchase.
Since its nearing the end of 2018 and many of us have made the decision to transition away from our beloved XT1254, either for newer Android experience or security update concerns, etc. It still seems many Turbo users are still hanging in there as the performance of the 2014 beast is still relevant today, or currently deciding which phone to get as the holiday season approaches! Lets give them a hand and give feedback on the phone we updated to. There are many diverse choices out their and each of us have DIFFERENT PRIORITIES on the features we finally decided on, so please NO PHONE BASHING from individuals on why their choice is the ONE AND ONLY CHOICE (there is another thread for that below if that is what you are into) , everyone is different and value different features above others - Great!
I will start with my choice the OnePlus 6t. I checked out all the phones this season and there were some great choices, but staying on the Verizon network was a priority for me so it made certain brands unavailable. When I found out that the 6t would be certified by Verizon it peaked my interest right away. Knowing the OnePlus brand and liking the direction they are headed, basically giving a heads up to the established brands that you need not spend 1000$ for a flagship performance phone in 2018. I jumped because it had everything that I valued, the latest 845 processor 8 g RAM and 256 g internal storage. The camera system is completely capable for me though I know there are superior cameras in other brands. Also Android Pie out of the box and the phone is bloat free, only the Android suite of apps, no even a OnePlus mail app! The speed and smoothness of the operating system is amazing coming from our Turbos and there is a very active XDA community for those who want to unlock and root the device. Its also refreshing that OnePlus seems to embrace the XDA community and OEM unlock is a simple ADB command! They also have a history of quick security and system updates.
EDIT: how can I forget the battery performance, with a 3700 mah and the efficiency of Android 9 it actually beats our 2014 beast!
So what were your choices and why? Lets give our fellow Turbo owners a hand!
Well, a bunch of us have bought LG V30...
@schwinn8, @gimpy1, @nnjimmy59, and a half dozen other Droid Turbo owners have joined us in the LG V30 forum...
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I was jealous of my wife's new phone, so she is getting me one for Xmas now... so I'll be off my Turbo soon!
For those interested, I can recommend the ebay store I bought ours from, since they are BNIB units... and the store just dropped the price a bit more, so it's $299 for a brand new 64GB version! https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-64GB-US-Cellular-Smartphone-Silver-Mint/173602248812
As ChazzMatt was right to point out, ignore the "US Cellular" mentions... it ran on Total Wireless (VZ MVNO) without ANY modifications. I still went to VS996 anyway, (he flashed US998 to Verizon VS996 firmware after bootloader unlock and root) but it's not limited to US Cellular in any way, contrary to the listing.
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@schwinn8, the middle option below is your phone. It's there because of you. But posting all this here so others can choose which one they want.
Holidays coming up. Here's THREE great deals on 64GB V30/128GB V30+ on eBay below. You always need a spare! Also, very likely eBay will suddenly throw out one of their site-wide 15%-20% off coupons around Black Friday or Cyber Monday? I'm just guessing. They tend to do that around various holidays. A bunch of us bought "mint" V30+ for ADDITIONAL 20% off "Buy It Now" price during Father's Day week.
* LG V30 LS998- 128GB - Titan Black (Sprint) Smartphone A Mint - $299
I've bought from that guy several times or had others buy from him. Just make sure you get the "mint" one. Use Frankenstein to convert to US998 or Verizon VS996. Or convert to US998, bootloader unlock, install TWRP, root -- and THEN convert to Verizon VS996, like @schwinn8 did. But US998 also works on Verizon; US998 works on ANY North American carrier.
OR if you want BRAND NEW IN BOX -- with 2-year LG warranty:
* BRAND NEW IN BOX - LG V30 US998 64GB US Cellular Smartphone-Silver - $299
Same price as the "mint" V30+ but it's NEW and already US998...
* BRAND NEW IN BOX. Ignore that the listing title says "mint" -- the listing itself makes clear it's brand new AND the two users above bought THREE of these new V30 and can verify it's BRAND NEW and eligible for 2-year LG warranty. I've re-written the listing title above to be what it SHOULD say.
* Also ignore the statement it's for "U.S. Cellular only". It's a genuine, new US998 V30+. Seems to be U.S. Cellular overstock, but we all know all US998 are carrier unlocked. The ONLY difference between the B&H Photo "open market" US998 and the U.S. Cellular US998 was the "open market" was eligible for OFFICIAL bootloader unlock. We don't need that with WTF. This thread has a MUCH simpler bootloader unlock for US998 than the OFFICIAL LG bootloader unlock (which I did for one of my V30). Many, many people have bought U.S. Cellular US998 here in this forum and know they are carrier unlocked. That's just leftover language from OTHER U.S. Cellular phones they sell.
REMOVED THE THIRD LISTING, WHICH WAS FOR NEW V30+ -- AS THE SELLER IS SHIPPING 64GB V30 IN A V30+ BOX. I RETURNED MINE AND GETTING A REFUND.
LG V30/V30+
1440P OLED (537 ppi)
Qi wireless charging
3.5mm headset jack
Quad DAC
IP68 dust/water resistance
rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
superfast fingerprint sensor
64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
microSD port for additional storage
bootloader unlock and root
no notch
Just make sure you buy a decent case, like Spigen. These V30 can be slippery as fish wiggling around. Love this one.
Spigen Rugged Armor LG V30 with Resilient Shock Absorption and Carbon Fiber Design for LG V30 (2017) - Black
https://www.amazon.com/Spigen-Rugged-Resilient-Absorption-Carbon/dp/B071JV1L9Z?ref_=nav_ya_signin&
That's an excellent point. There are some killer deals online for the older 2017 flagships, S8s, V30, Pixel 2s all Verizon friendly and still competent performers. Even the more powerful early 18 flagships, S9s and V40 should have some competitive holiday pricing.
Keep in mind, most of the other new phones give up some of the features that were important to ChazzMatt (and myself). For me, the important things were a headphone jack, bootloader unlock/root, and no idiotic notch. The SD card capability was a bonus I wasn't expecting... which allowed me to choose the NEW 64GB phone instead of the Mint 128GB phone - I figured I can upgrade storage later if I need to. The other features mentioned above are good bonuses as well...
I'm very happy with the phone... only complaint may be the weird 18:9 aspect of the device. It's not a problem, but just weird... on the other hand, it keeps the phone skinny so it's easier to handle in one hand. Chazz had a great thread where he went into a lot of detail on why he landed on this phone... if you're interested, it's a good read... but in the end, many of us agree with the LG V30, especially at this price.
EDIT: As for the case, I got the Ringke Onyx in purple, from here: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B3NVL6W - they have a black if you prefer. I like the "brushed" texture on the back, and like ChazzMatt said, it makes the phone easier to hold (and it's protected from drops, of course). I had a basic TPU case on my Turbo as well, and it lasted me 4 years, so I expect this will be sufficient (we take good care of our phones!)
Yes if headphone jack is a priority, it seems like dwindling choices, basically Samsung and LG if you want a Verizon friendly flagship. Industry insiders agree that the jack may last another 2019 season at best so get it while you can. Once Samsung gives it up ( S10 prediction) then it will be history as technology moves forward. By getting an S8/9 or V30/40 at least you will have the headphone jack option for a number of years until you upgrade again, then there will always be dongles to fall back on.
It was hard to let go the turbo. What a great phone and the roms from @BHB27 just kept it going strong. Being a Verizon / Straight Talk customer and knowing the 3g phase-out was on the horizon, I started investigating options for replacement and upgrade. Indeed we each have our own priorities and constraints, and the search proved difficult. The Turbos set a high standard and some of the recent design decisions and fads like elimination of headphone jacks and the notch are not to my liking. The v30 met all of my requirements, and I had my fingers crossed that bootloader unlock would be released by LG or achieved by other means. I pulled the trigger on a pair of open market LG v30s's in May shortly after the WTF unlock was announced. The v30s model has an extra dose of ram vs the v30 and v30+ siblings, 6gb vs 4; and is otherwise the same. The decison proved to be a good one; the v30's match or beat the Turbo in nearly every way while retaining most of its desireable attributes. It is durable per the MIL spec. The display is clear and bright. Despite the slightly smaller battery, it runs longer on a charge. The camera and video capabilities are incredible. The quad dac and a 3.5 mm jack give super sweet sounding audio. There is a growing mod community, too. I could go on but you get the idea.
As @ChazzMatt points out, there are exellent deals making v30's a great value in terms of bang for the buck. B&H Photo has an awesome sale going on for the v30s right now, too. The Moroccan blue looks nice, BTW!
Lastly, please don't take this as unwanted advice. I am just sharing my experience with fellow Turbo users to help in making their own decison in the not too distant future.
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It was hard to let go the turbo. What a great phone and the roms from @BHB27 just kept it going strong. Being a Verizon / Straight Talk customer and knowing the 3g phase-out was on the horizon, I started investigating options for replacement and upgrade. Indeed we each have our own priorities and constraints, and the search proved difficult. The Turbos set a high standard and some of the recent design decisions and fads like elimination of headphone jacks and the notch are not to my liking. The v30 met all of my requirements, and I had my fingers crossed that bootloader unlock would be released by LG or achieved by other means. I pulled the trigger on a pair of open market LG v30s's in May shortly after the WTF unlock was announced. The v30s model has an extra dose of ram vs the v30 and v30+ siblings, 6gb vs 4; and is otherwise the same. The decison proved to be a good one; the v30's match or beat the Turbo in nearly every way while retaining most of its desireable attributes. It is durable per the MIL spec. The display is clear and bright. Despite the slightly smaller battery, it runs longer on a charge. The camera and video capabilities are incredible. The quad dac and a 3.5 mm jack give super sweet sounding audio. There is a growing mod community, too. I could go on but you get the idea.
As @ChazzMatt points out, there are exellent deals making v30's a great value in terms of bang for the buck. B&H Photo has an awesome sale going on for the v30s right now, too. The Moroccan blue looks nice, BTW!
Lastly, please don't take this as unwanted advice. I am just sharing my experience with fellow Turbo users to help in making their own decison in the not too distant future.
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Pixel 3 directly from google (unlocked) with the buy one get one half off sale last week. Already have the bootloader unlocked & rooted w/Magisk. Will keep my Turbo nearby since it tethers/wifi hotspot to my other devices with ease. I am still working on getting my Pixel to do the same thing with Magisk since I am on an unlimited plan. The newer phone's screen is slightly smaller width wise but a hair taller. I am trying to get used to it. The speed of the Pixel though is insane compared to the Turbo. Also went to 128GB vs my old 64gb.
FYI, even Wallyworld is getting in on the game, as they have a V30+ for $399 on their site: https://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-V30-S...-MP-5-MP-front-camera-Android-black/272122892
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FYI, even Wallyworld is getting in on the game, as they have a V30+ for $399 on their site: https://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-V30-S...-MP-5-MP-front-camera-Android-black/272122892
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Installed a magisk module in the Pixel 3 that allows me to switch the squeeze method to whatever I want the phone to do. Now I squeeze the phone and the flashlight turns on! :laugh: No more nun-chuck action needed.
Battery seems to be slightly better than the turbo too. I think the Pixel 3 was a good choice. The camera is also way better than any phone in the world at the moment, pictures look excellent. :good:
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Installed a magisk module in the Pixel 3 that allows me to switch the squeeze method to whatever I want the phone to do. Now I squeeze the phone and the flashlight turns on! :laugh: No more nun-chuck action needed.
Battery seems to be slightly better than the turbo too. I think the Pixel 3 was a good choice. The camera is also way better than any phone in the world at the moment, pictures look excellent. :good:
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Sounds like a great choice, the camera undoubtedly gets the best reviews to date in a smart phone. What's your position on getting updates with a rooted phone, will you be able to side load and then reroot, or will the OTAs still come through, then reroot?
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FYI, even Wallyworld is getting in on the game, as they have a V30+ for $399 on their site: https://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-V30-S...-MP-5-MP-front-camera-Android-black/272122892
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Interesting. I'm having trouble finding a NEW US998 128GB V30+ for a decent price. B&H Photo is still selling them for outrageous amount, but this is $100 less than theirs.
eBay allegedly has a "new" LG V30+ for $378 but they shipped me a new V30 instead, then asked me if I would accept a refund of $45 for the difference. Uh, NO. Your Wal-Mart link has it for $399...
I should probably just buy another "mint" 128GB V30+ for $299... but I decided I really want a brand new in box. I've bought both, so I'm all for the "mint" ones when they are truly mint.
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Sounds like a great choice, the camera undoubtedly gets the best reviews to date in a smart phone. What's your position on getting updates with a rooted phone, will you be able to side load and then reroot, or will the OTAs still come through, then reroot?
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No idea how its going to play out since they are still tinkering with TWRP for the P3 phones, I just downloaded the OTA update image from googles site and flashed it with ADB, then flashed TWRP + Magisk in recovery. I think the OTA's automatically coming in will knock custom recovery out. I haven't had a new phone in almost 5 years so I am re-learning everything. I do miss the Turbo but the speed of the P3 is on a different level.
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No idea how its going to play out since they are still tinkering with TWRP for the P3 phones, I just downloaded the OTA update image from googles site and flashed it with ADB, then flashed TWRP + Magisk in recovery. I think the OTA's automatically coming in will knock custom recovery out. I haven't had a new phone in almost 5 years so I am re-learning everything. I do miss the Turbo but the speed of the P3 is on a different level.
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Yes that's why I am debating the worth of rooting a 2018 phone. All my previous reasons, to remove bloat and optimize battery life no longer seem relevant to me with 6t - no need - same with your P3 - not sure I have the patience to side load and reroot for updates but nice to have the option. Agree on the speed and smooth response of a new 845 processor device, I didnt realize what I was missing as technology moves forward at such a fast pace. Hopefully this will give people on the fence a reason to jump.
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Yes that's why I am debating the worth of rooting a 2018 phone. All my previous reasons, to remove bloat and optimize battery life no longer seem relevant to me with 6t - no need - same with your P3 - not sure I have the patience to side load and reroot for updates but nice to have the option. Agree on the speed and smooth response of a new 845 processor device, I didnt realize what I was missing as technology moves forward at such a fast pace. Hopefully this will give people on the fence a reason to jump.
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Plus the P3 has a fingerprint scanner for unlocking (I LOVE THIS NOW) and wire-(less?) charging @10Watts with the stand I purchased half off last week. I received the SCREEN CALLING feature a few days ago and its awesome to mess with SPAM/ROBO callers. I got one today and they hung up soon as they heard it. Low light night photos shoot options, the new yellow tinted screen when its late at night...Its just a great new experience. :good:
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Plus the P3 has a fingerprint scanner for unlocking (I LOVE THIS NOW) and wire-(less?) charging @10Watts with the stand I purchased half off last week. I received the SCREEN CALLING feature a few days ago and its awesome to mess with SPAM/ROBO callers. I got one today and they hung up soon as they heard it. Low light night photos shoot options, the new yellow tinted screen when its late at night...Its just a great new experience. :good:
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V30 has all that -- plus headset jack and quad DAC. . Yeah, all Androids have had Bluetooth for YEARS. Just because you have Bluetooth doesn't mean you also don't want headset jack. I use both.
Just like ALL my phones have had Qi wireless charging since 2013... I won't buy a phone without Qi wireless charging. Nexus 5 had it as well as Moto Quark. Sure, I also want to plug in sometimes to charge. You can do both.
Yeah, super fast fingerprint scanner is great. Plus IP68 dust/water resistance -- which some pretender phones don't have.
microSD card? Nice to have. I've had phones with them, and without. V30 has it, so that's good. But it's not my line in the sand, like Qi wireless charging.
Real premium phones have lots of features like that. I don't want to buy a "basic" phone that doesn't have premium features like Qi wireless charging, IP68 (or any kind of IP rating?), headset jack. QUAD DAC for the headset jack is cherry on top. MicroSD card is just bonus points.
I think the current trend is that most people stopped using wired headphones with their phones a very long time ago. If I want audiophile clarity with my music, I'll listen at home with a FLAC file through over the ear headphones. Also, the current internal memory storage sizes are so much larger than they used to be that micro sd cards are no longer needed...I like having physical copies of CD's too but Best Buy just quit selling them all-together in their stores... tech & trends change and as much as I don't agree with some design choices or older features being left out, I don't think the big companies like Google or Apple are going to switch back anytime soon. IMHO the LG has more "features" but the P3 does what it does better than any other android phone at the moment.
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FYI, even Wallyworld is getting in on the game, as they have a V30+ for $399 on their site: https://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-V30-S...-MP-5-MP-front-camera-Android-black/272122892
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Interesting. I'm having trouble finding a NEW US998 128GB V30+ for a decent price. B&H Photo is still selling them for outrageous amount, but this is $100 less than theirs.
eBay allegedly has a "new" LG V30+ for $378 but they shipped me a new V30 instead, then asked me if I would accept a refund of $45 for the difference. Uh, NO. Your Wal-Mart link has it for $399...
I should probably just buy another "mint" 128GB V30+ for $299... but I decided I really want a brand new in box. I've bought both, so I'm all for the "mint" ones when they are truly mint.
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@schwinn8, thanks again for the Wal-Mart link. Used it last night to order GUARANTEED new open market/carrier unlocked 128GB V30+ US998.
All the other "new" US998 V30+ on EBay seem to be Chinese sellers pretending to look like U.S. dealers, and they are selling refurbished models with inaccurate descriptions. In their pictures, they all have red flag stuff like "B&O" branded backs (which LG does not have rights to in North America) or "V30" logos on the back on what is supposedly a V30+. The one that I ordered -- which LOOKED legitimate -- when delivered turned out to be a 64GB V30 in a 128GB V30+ sealed box and came with B&O earbuds -- which was another dead giveaway it was NOT new. (North America V30/V30+ came with LG-branded earbuds.) Plus, the phone had 128GB microSD card already inserted. Besides again confirming the phone was NOT new, 128GB microSD card does NOT make up for me paying for (and not getting) 128GB internal storage! I already have a 256GB microSD card, thank you. Got a refund, and they gave me extra $25 for not giving them a negative review. I still said they shipped me "wrong item" but they refunded the money and communicated well. So, I am getting this NEW Wal-mart US998 V30+ for basically same price, once you consider I got paid $25 to receive and ship back a phone.
I have ordered many times from eBay dealers with satisfaction, but in this case trying to get an actual new-in-box 128GB US998 V30+ is a challenge.
So, since this LG V30 series phone has been on the market for a year now, I'm afraid of it disappearing -- with only worse-for-wear used models showing up in the future. I gave my mom my backup V30 US998 phone (the one I was forced to waive 2-year warranty on which has the now unnecessary LG "official" bootloader unlock -- since now ANY V30/V30+/V30S can bee bootloader unlocked and rooted without LG's permission), and my wife has the other 64GB V30 US998 phone. But I have a V30+, and I want another as backup. I gave both my eBay "mint" LS998 V30+ > US998 V30+ to relatives who desperately needed new phones. I even locked the bootloader back and restored full US998 20E KDZ...
But I feel naked without a backup phone. Even for Quark, I owned THREE Moto XT1225 -- one for me, one for wife, and one still new in the box. I sold that one last year in preparation for buying the V30. Never used it, still had Kitkat 4.4.4 But it gave me comfort that if my daily phone was lost or stolen, I could easily be up and running again with EXACTLY the same beloved phone.
So, I have ordered this new US998 V30+ from Wal-mart, and will be arriving next week.
If I wasn't insisting upon brand new V30+ US998 this time, I could get basically the same thing for much less...
LG V30 LS998- 128GB - Titan Black (Sprint) Smartphone A Mint - $285
LS998 V30+ easily/fully converted to US998 V30+ in 10 minutes... I have already-activated AT&T SIM card, so just slap it in. I've done it twice before, so I don't know why I'm wasting money this time.
Here's another seller below. Looks like he's already converted them to US998 or possibly AS998? He doesn't say the model, but says they are "GSM Unlocked" -- but both US998 and AS998 ARE GSM/unlocked while still having Verizon CDMA bands.
*Mint* LG V30+ V30 Plus - 128GB - Black (GSM UNLOCKED) Smartphone! - $295
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I think the current trend is that most people stopped using wired headphones with their phones a very long time ago. If I want audiophile clarity with my music, I'll listen at home with a FLAC file through over the ear headphones. Also, the current internal memory storage sizes are so much larger than they used to be that micro sd cards are no longer needed...I like having physical copies of CD's too but Best Buy just quit selling them all-together in their stores... tech & trends change and as much as I don't agree with some design choices or older features being left out, I don't think the big companies like Google or Apple are going to switch back anytime soon. IMHO the LG has more "features" but the P3 does what it does better than any other android phone at the moment.
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I absolutely agree with you. I haven't used a wired headphone in years have no intention of ever using - so a headphone jack is just a useless hole in a phone for me. I have a set of premium wireless headphones and the sound is more than adequate for my needs. Among my decisions, as yours I suspect, were to have cutting edge 2018 processor speed and smooth performance & an android experience without a heavy OEM skin. I gave up wireless charging and official IP68 rating in favor of OnePlus 6t aggressive pricing, I thought I would give it a try and I am very happy with my device. I like how they are shaking up the market. If you want to have those features then I think the Pixel 3 or 3XL is the best overall choice for 2018. There are so many good reviews on both devices you really cannot go wrong, its just a matter of choice.
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LG V30 LS998- 128GB - Titan Black (Sprint) Smartphone A Mint - $285
LS998 V30+ easily/fully converted to US998/VS996 V30+ in 10 minutes...
Here's another seller below. Looks like he's already converted them to US998 or possibly AS998? He doesn't say the model, but says they are "GSM Unlocked" -- but both US998 and AS998 ARE GSM/unlocked while still having Verizon CDMA bands.
*Mint* LG V30+ V30 Plus - 128GB - Black (GSM UNLOCKED) Smartphone! - $295
LG V30/V30+
1440P OLED (537 ppi)
Qi wireless charging
3.5mm headset jack
Quad DAC
IP68 dust/water resistance
rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
superfast fingerprint sensor
64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
microSD port for additional storage
bootloader unlock and root
no notch
Just make sure you buy a decent case, like Spigen. These V30 can be slippery as fish wiggling around. Love this one.
Spigen Rugged Armor LG V30 with Resilient Shock Absorption and Carbon Fiber Design for LG V30 (2017) - Black
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Spigen-LG-...h=item3af07ab512:g:0fcAAOSwrtVZsv-A:rk:2:pf:0
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I absolutely agree with you. I haven't used a wired headphone in years have no intention of ever using - so a headphone jack is just a useless hole in a phone for me. I have a set of premium wireless headphones and the sound is more than adequate for my needs. Among my decisions, as yours I suspect, were to have cutting edge 2018 processor speed and smooth performance & an android experience without a heavy OEM skin. I gave up wireless charging and official IP68 rating in favor of OnePlus 6t aggressive pricing, I thought I would give it a try and I am very happy with my device. I like how they are shaking up the market. If you want to have those features then I think the Pixel 3 or 3XL is the best overall choice for 2018. There are so many good reviews on both devices you really cannot go wrong, its just a matter of choice.
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You can have headset jack and still use inferior wireless earbuds if you wish. Your choice. But you know that no wireless earbuds are going to compare to headset jack with LG's quad DAC, but it's your choice. Bluetooth has been in Android phones for year.
I'm not meaning to criticize you but it seems your entire post is justifying giving up features for no reason at all: headset jack, IP68 dust/water resistance, Qi wireless charging, 1440p QHD. (Why would you want to buy a "replacement" phone for your 1440p QHD Droid Turbo and downgrade the resolution?) I wanted a phone as good as or better than the Moto Quarks I was replacing. In fact, I count SEVEN features listed above that OnePlus 6T does NOT have, including 4 features the Droid Turbo has. I have a premium phone with smooth performance AND those features. "Never settle." Yes, it's a matter of choice.
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FYI, even Wallyworld is getting in on the game, as they have a V30+ for $399 on their site: https://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-V30-S...-MP-5-MP-front-camera-Android-black/272122892
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24 hours after I ordered, they drop the price by $20. Now $379 for new in box with 2-year warranty. ARghh. But Android Authority is touting this price reduction, so I"m afraid if I cancel and try to re-order they will suddenly be out of stock or something!
I'll try to get a $20 refund when I pick up the phone at the store...
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I absolutely agree with you. I haven't used a wired headphone in years have no intention of ever using - so a headphone jack is just a useless hole in a phone for me. I have a set of premium wireless headphones and the sound is more than adequate for my needs. Among my decisions, as yours I suspect, were to have cutting edge 2018 processor speed and smooth performance & an android experience without a heavy OEM skin. I gave up wireless charging and official IP68 rating in favor of OnePlus 6t aggressive pricing, I thought I would give it a try and I am very happy with my device. I like how they are shaking up the market. If you want to have those features then I think the Pixel 3 or 3XL is the best overall choice for 2018. There are so many good reviews on both devices you really cannot go wrong, its just a matter of choice.
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I think this thread should be titled "Why you should replace the Turbo with the LG V30 and if you disagree you are wrong".
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