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The objective of this thread is to answer the commonly asked questions, give the newbies a little head-start, protect them from getting flamed and keep this forum focused on more important things
Please go and hit thanks to @aashay960 here: for allowing me use informations here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2323518
1 > What is root?
If you’re an Administrator on a Windows machine, you have access to the entire operating system and you can do whatever you like. That’s essentially what happens if you root your Android device. With root access, you can get around any restrictions that your manufacturer or carrier may have applied. You can run more apps; you can customize your device to a greater degree; and you can potentially speed it up in a variety of ways.
Basically, Rooting a phone grants you the permission to do stuff you normally aren't.
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2 > Why to Root?
One of the most obvious incentives to root your Android device is to rid yourself of the bloatware that’s impossible to uninstall. You’ll be able to set up wireless tethering, even if it has been disabled by default. You can also access your entire file system, install special apps that require a root, and flash custom ROMs, which can add extra features and streamline your phone or tablet’s performance. A lot of people are tempted by the ability to completely customize the look of their phones. You can also manually accept or deny app permissions.
You can also get the latest android version before Sony releases it. You can also overclock (increase the speed of your CPU) your phone!
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3 > Why not to root?
There are essentially three potential cons to rooting your Android.
Voiding your warranty: Some manufacturers or carriers will use rooting as an excuse to void your warranty. It’s worth keeping in mind that you can always unroot. If you need to send the device back for repair, simply flash the original backup ROM you made and no one will ever know that it was rooted.
Bricking your phone: Whenever you tamper too much, you run at least a small risk of bricking your device. This is the big fear everyone has. The obvious way to avoid it happening is to follow instructions carefully. Make sure that the guide you are following works for your device and that any custom ROM you flash is designed specifically for it. If you do your research and pay attention to feedback from others, bricking should never occur.
Security risks: Rooting may introduce some security risks. Depending on what services or apps you use on your device, rooting could create a security vulnerability. For example, Google refuses to support the Google Wallet service for rooted devices.
You must be willing to compromise with these factors before you decide to root. Personally, I haven't regretted my decision of rooting even for a second! I'm sure most of the guys on this forum feel the same way. However it is your choice.
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4 > How do I root my phone?
Root for locked & unlocked bootloaders
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Recovery
5 > What is Recovery?
A recovery is a small distinct environment separate from Android that allows diagnostic updates, and the ability to perform factory resets. The main purpose of this is to provide a way to reset an Android device when it may be impossible to boot into it.
The Android stock recovery is very basic and controlled via the volume keys and power button at the top of the device.
Custom Recoveries perform the same tasks as the stock-Android recovery with a few addition features, such as the ability to make full system backups, as well as flash custom roms. It is important to note that custom recoveries are recommended to those users with rooted devices, however a rooted device is not required. Anyone with an unlocked bootloader can install a custom recovery on their device.
Basically, Recovery saves your ass when you screw up! But it has many other important features.
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6 > What are the different Recoveries available for Xperia Z?
Look at this post.
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7 > How do I install a recovery?
Check here
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8 > Which recovery is better?
NEVER ask this question! It is a matter of personal choice. It is an insult to the developers of the Recovery if you ask this question. Try out on your own and choose what you like
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9 > What is a Custom ROM?
A stock ROM is the version of the phone's operating system that comes with your phone when you buy it.
A custom ROM is a fully standalone version of the OS, including the kernel (which makes everything run), apps, services, etc - everything you need to operate the device, except it's customized by someone in some way.
So what does the "customized" part mean? Since Android is open source, developers are free to take stock ROMs, modify them, strip them of garbage, optimize them, add things, and pretty much do whatever their imagination and skills allow.
My definition - A Custom ROM is a developer's idea of what the phone 'should have been like'. He takes the stock rom and modifies it to improve performance, looks, animations, battery life etc.
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10 > Why to install a Custom ROM?
Updated versions: You can load the latest and available Android versions which can make your old phone look new.
Great number of feature filled custom ROMs: It will be a chaotic task for you to find the apt one as there are bunches of great custom ROMs available for different devices.
Personalization: There are a number of features that can be customized to suit your taste and working environment. For instance, Custom themes can bring a new look and feel to your device.
Improve performance: The custom ROMs allow its users to find out the unnecessary apps they have on their device and helps them to get rid of them, thus increases the speed of processing and improves battery life.
Install Apps on SD card: This is currently not possible with stock ROMs. If your phone ran out of space occasionally when install new apps this is a killer feature to have.
Better signal and quality: Custom ROMs help you to improve your base-band which in turn increases the signal and quality of your phone call.
Other reasons that you won't find on Google - "The thrill factor involved", "To show off to your friends" and "Because you can!"
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11 > Why not to install a Custom rom?
Bricking: This is one of the main reason why people hesitate to root their devices. Some devices after the rooting process may become useless and the only option left with you is to get a new one as the manufacturer will cancel the warranty if they find any attempts of rooting.
Loss of all Data: When you install a new custom ROM, it will clean up your system and therefore you will loss all your installed apps and data.
Risk Factor: Most of the apps will be open source and the trust you have on developers may cause a potential risk to you in the future.
Reboot: If the rooting is not successfully done, the device may enter to an infinite loop of booting.
Even though this may seem concerning, it will happen only if you don't follow instructions correctly or do something extremely stupid. As of now, there is no way to completely brick an Xperia Z! You can fix 'Loss of Data' by taking a backup and you can fix reboot by using the Recovery mode we discussed earlier.
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12 > What are the different Custom ROMs available for Xperia Z?
Look HERE. Take your pick!
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13 > Which is the Best ROM for this phone?
NEVER EVER ASK THIS QUESTION!! This is a very subjective question. It differs from person to person. It takes a lot of time/energy/efforts to build a custom ROM and asking this question is a very big insult to the makers of these ROMs! Try out different ROMs and choose what you like.
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Kernels
14 > What is a Kernel?
The central module of an operating system. It is the part of the operating system that loads first, and it remains in main memory. Because it stays in memory, it is important for the kernel to be as small as possible while still providing all the essential services required by other parts of the operating system and applications. Typically, the kernel is responsible for memory management, process and task management, and disk management.
If our phone was a movie, the Kernel would be the director! It is the brain of our phone. And even though it is the most important part of our phone, it is just a single (.IMG) file and only a couple of MBs!
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15 > What are the benefits of a custom Kernel?
Adjust CPU frequencies and set profiles like OnDemand, Battery Saving, etc.
Underclock and overclock CPU speeds
Underclock and overclock GPU speeds
Adjust voltage
Adjust touch screen sensitivity
Equip your phone with BLN (backlight notifications)
Custom recovery that allows backups and restorations of entire ROMs as well as installation of .zip files
Minimum screen brightness pushed past the limitations of stock kernel
Conserve battery (with the right settings)
There are a lot of Technical advantages of a good coded custom kernel. Fortunately, you don't have to worry about all that. Most of the work is done by the developer himself.
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16 > How to flash (install) a custom kernel? OR How to flash boot.img?
Read this
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17 > Which is the best Kernel for this phone?
NEVER EVER ASK THIS QUESTION!! This is a very subjective question. It differs from person to person. It takes a lot of time/energy/efforts to build a Kernel and asking this question is a very big insult to the makers of these Kernels! And remember, not all Kernels are compatible with all roms
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18 > How to overclock my phone?
You cannot overclock with a stock kernel. You MUST have a custom kernel to overclock your phone. Once you have a custom kernel you must install either 'SetCPU app' or 'NoFrillsCPU app'. You need any one of these to control the CPU speeds.
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19 > Is it safe to overclock my phone?
I will not say this is completely safe. But i have yet to come across somebody who actually screwed up his phone just by overclocking. So use at your own risk. Also remember that all phones have a different capacity to overclock. If you try to overclock it higher than that, it will go into a 'reboot loop'. But you can fix that by flashing a lower frequency Kernel. It is not a problem.
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Extras
20 > What is GAPPS?
Gapps is short for Google Apps. These are apps made by google like Google Maps, Playstore, Gmail, Google search etc. They are available to download in the Play Store and can also be flashed as a zip in recovery mode. For a complete list of apps click HERE. Not all Gapps are available in all countries.
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21 > How to increase battery life? OR How to save battery?
Read THIS (Not only read it but apply it too! ) . If nothing else works, buy a better battery.
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22 > Task Managers - Good or Bad?
Long story short - If you don't know what you are doing, Stay away from task killers. If you think that constantly killing apps will free more RAM and therefore speed up your device, you are mistaken. The app that you kill will restart itself and this will cause you more of your phone's resources than you think you saved. In fact, task managers do more harm than good. A lot of Developers agree with this. Android itself does a very fine job of managing tasks so that you don't have to mess with it.
Read this in-depth article on task managers HERE
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23 > What is Clean Flash? What is Dirty Flash?
Clean Flash is wiping cache, dalvik cache and data before flashing a zip or installing a ROM through recovery.
Dirty Flash is wiping cache and dalvik cache only
Clean flash is much recommended and causes less problems down the road. If the instructions specifically ask to to clean flash, you must do so. You will lose all your data when you will clean flash. But dont worry, clean flash will not affect your internal or external memory card. You will lose your apps and settings and game data. Your phone will act like it is just out of the box.
You can Dirty flash when flashing small modification zip files. Or perhaps a minor update to the rom (unless the instructions ask you to clean flash). You will not lose any data while Dirty flash. But sometimes, you are more likely to face problems like apps closing which could have been prevented by Clean flashing.
Personally, i always clean flash when installing a new Rom. It is a good habit to follow in the long run.
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Android is an open-source software stack for a wide range of mobile devices and a corresponding open-source project led by Google. Here you can find the information and source code you need to learn more about the Android platform. From there you can create custom variants of the Android software stack, port devices and accessories to the Android platform, and ensure your devices are compatible with the Android compatibility definition.
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CyanogenMod
CyanogenMod (pronounced sigh-AN-oh-jen-mod), is a customized, aftermarket firmware distribution for several Android devices (See above for supported devices & how to install CyanogenMod on said devices). Based on the Android Open Source Project, CyanogenMod is designed to increase performance and reliability over Android-based ROMs released by vendors and carriers such as Google, T-Mobile, HTC, etc. CyanogenMod also offers a variety of features & enhancements that are not currently found in these versions of Android.
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Visit Official Site : http://www.cyanogenmod.org/
MIUI
MIUI (pronounced "Me You I", a play on the common abbreviation of the words user interface as UI), developed by Xiaomi Tech, is an aftermarket firmware for cell phones based on the open-source Android operating system. MIUI itself is closed source. It features a heavily-modified user interface that does away with the Android app drawer and has drawn comparisons with Apple's iOS and Samsung's TouchWiz UI. The Custom ROM includes additional functionality not found in stock Android, including toggles on the notification pull-down, new music, gallery, and camera apps, and an altered phone dialer that displays matching contacts as a user enters a number
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Can you put a bigger signature i don't read it correctly...
Some things are wrong, like rooting your phone avoid your warranty, where did you take your informations?
Why not a single word about the risk of installing a custom kernel? The hard-brick problem, the fact that SUS and PCC won't work on a custom kernel, that's very important informations you should get before thinking about installing a custom kernel.
Great initiative!
QualQuek said:
Why not a single word about the risk of installing a custom kernel? The hard-brick problem, the fact that SUS and PCC won't work on a custom kernel, that's very important informations you should get before thinking about installing a custom kernel.
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Post suggestions instead of criticisms.
This is really good! :good:
One small suggestion, if I may, I think when it comes to choice of recovery, you should make a small comparison between the types of recoveries available.
CWM non-touch recovery lacks AROMA support, and I think that's a huge drawback.
Maybe you can add more such differences that you can find.
kgs1992 said:
This is really good! :good:
One small suggestion, if I may, I think when it comes to choice of recovery, you should make a small comparison between the types of recoveries available.
CWM non-touch recovery lacks AROMA support, and I think that's a huge drawback.
Maybe you can add more such differences that you can find.
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In my veiw you are right but anything u say the person my have done hard work to build the recovery.
So i am leaving it for now .
If i get some pms / requests / more suggestions i will think once again
QualQuek said:
Can you put a bigger signature i don't read it correctly...
Some things are wrong, like rooting your phone avoid your warranty, where did you take your informations?
Why not a single word about the risk of installing a custom kernel? The hard-brick problem, the fact that SUS and PCC won't work on a custom kernel, that's very important informations you should get before thinking about installing a custom kernel.
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It is written that rooting will 'void' warranty which means that warranty will be over if you root the phone. There is a difference between 'void' and 'avoid'
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It is written that rooting will 'void' warranty which means that warranty will be over if you root the phone. There is a difference between 'void' and 'avoid'
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That doesn't change that fact that's wrong.
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That doesn't change that fact that's wrong.
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So you are saying that if we root our phone, we will still have the original warranty? Ofcourse not
Very informative !!
Thanks
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So you are saying that if we root our phone, we will still have the original warranty? Ofcourse not
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43971471&postcount=10
Deal with it.
QualQuek said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43971471&postcount=10
Deal with it.
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Not to argue with the fact that warranty shouldn't be affected by root (it shouldn't) , but that is solely a European directive.
Sony do not have to stick by that ruling in the rest of the world, including India where the person you are arguing with is from. So, it's perfectly plausible that they could deny a warranty claim because of root and get away with it in some territories (unless a similar ruling is made there).
Also, might I suggest that you do not post in such a confrontational manner when there is no call for it, especially in cases such as now when you haven't considered what might be the case in areas apart from the one you live in yourself.
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kingvortex said:
Not to argue with the fact that warranty shouldn't be affected by root (it shouldn't) , but that is solely a European directive.
Sony do not have to stick by that ruling in the rest of the world, including India where the person you are arguing with is from. So, it's perfectly plausible that they could deny a warranty claim because of root and get away with it in some territories (unless a similar ruling is made there).
Also, might I suggest that you do not post in such a confrontational manner when there is no call for it, especially in cases such as now when you haven't considered what might be the case in areas apart from the one you live in yourself.
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Absolutely not, read the wikipedia article.
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Absolutely not, read the wikipedia article.
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I have. It only mentions legality in Australia, Europe and the USA. Rulings made in those territories do not cover India and never will.
If you somehow think that India has to stick by a European directive, then I'm not sure what to say about that.
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I have. It only mentions legality in Australia, Europe and the USA. Rulings made in those territories do not cover India and never will.
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Oh you think that doesn't apply to other countries except that Europe, USA and Australia?
I don't think so, most of other countries haven't any law about it so maybe that make jurisprudence.
Anyway even in India i'm not worried about that.
Presently: T-Mobile-Polska ROM (4.4.2 KitKat, Build ID: KOT49H) flashed 24-03-2015y.
Well customized, rooted, well tuned up with Xpose instaler modules etc., frozen bloatware
For several months it is proposed to update for a reason: Security Fix!
Is it worth updating at all? As such a "security fixes" used to mean user couldn't customize or tune OS, you could hardly detect any other difference!
However, what is the latest or simply the best ROM for the 64bit device?
(And where to download from?)
No matter stock or custom, just it needs fully work and has some nice "state of the art" builtin functionality
The other facilities will be acquired through the means above mentioned: root, Xpose, 3Ctools and some neat tools available on the market.
Possibly half of the stock system apps are just bloatware, so 3Ctools will help to cleanup them
You might try to ask the tech support what is in this update for example the MMS fix surely feels like must have (well known by now mms bug allowing to execute a code send by mms) but if that something you could manage to dodge on your own then just ignore it.
About the ROM with some nice looks n feels well we don't have any TBH we don't have any so called "daily driver" at all but I can suggest installing a custom launcher some of the more liked ones were on sale not so long ago you just have to track the app sales
I don't suggest any cause I don't know the forum rules regard the advertising.
Edit: There's Cyanogenmod 12 but it's bugged, not something u want to use daily.
ioy said:
Presently: T-Mobile-Polska ROM (4.4.2 KitKat, Build ID: KOT49H) flashed 24-03-2015y.
Well customized, rooted, well tuned up with Xpose instaler modules etc., frozen bloatware
For several months it is proposed to update for a reason: Security Fix!
Is it worth updating at all? As such a "security fixes" used to mean user couldn't customize or tune OS, you could hardly detect any other difference!
However, what is the latest or simply the best ROM for the 64bit device?
(And where to download from?)
No matter stock or custom, just it needs fully work and has some nice "state of the art" builtin functionality
The other facilities will be acquired through the means above mentioned: root, Xpose, 3Ctools and some neat tools available on the market.
Possibly half of the stock system apps are just bloatware, so 3Ctools will help to cleanup them
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There's only 1 rom available for the 64 bit and that's the one patrik made the cm12 and it has a good amount of bugs so it's not suggested as a daily driver yet. Nothing else but that and stock.
Hello everyone. Those days I feel some to root my phone (ALE-L21 6.0 Dual SIM) to install custom ROMs like LineageOS with Android Nougat and use apps like WPS WPA Tester but other some I feel not because I'm still in warranty time (it ends after 1 year + the warranty isn't in my country) and I never rooted any device or even used Android (my lase phone was Nokia 110) so today I wanna to know why root is useful and why not and what can I use it for and what's the root dangerous? I need all informations about root. :laugh:
Edit: Is all custom ROMs has bugs? Like Radio FM doesn't work, screen recorder doesn't work or even has a bug?
AmirGTX said:
I need all informations about root. :laugh:
Edit: Is all custom ROMs has bugs?
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Root was a good thing on earlier versions of Android. Now I don't think it's a necessity.
Custom ROM's seems a good idea, but if you don't have official version from the developers I myself don't recommend it.
You can try deoxed, modified or trimmed versions of stock ROM, to get more features.
If you have a branded phone I recommend to unbrand it to obtain ROM updates easily.
I recommend to keep stock for now because we get security patches from time to time.
I think main reasons for rooting and unlocking bootloader.
1. Devices with small memory you can install apps in to SD-card.
2. If you realy hate ads you can use Adblocking.
3. Install custom ROM or kernel to get better battery life/performance (with some devices these are only stuff that isn't perfectly stable but sill stable enoughfor daily use).
4. Uninstall unessesary system apps.
5. More customizing possibilities like change screen dpi(dots per inch --> smaller value gives smaller icons and text so you can fit more stuff in screen at the same time).
6. There is more things to do but this was of the top of my head.
IMO root yes, of course, many reasons pick the ones you like most: uninstall bloatware, tweak kernel parameters, activate hidden options, xposed, greenify...
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I think main reasons for rooting and unlocking bootloader.
1. Devices with small memory you can install apps in to SD-card.
2. If you realy hate ads you can use Adblocking.
3. Install custom ROM or kernel to get better battery life/performance (with some devices these are only stuff that isn't perfectly stable but sill stable enoughfor daily use).
4. Uninstall unessesary system apps.
5. More customizing possibilities like change screen dpi(dots per inch --> smaller value gives smaller icons and text so you can fit more stuff in screen at the same time).
6. There is more things to do but this was of the top of my head.
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1. I use my device currently and needn't more space.
2. I already have Adguard, it's enough for me.
3. Yes, I've bored from the stock Android theme and want to change it.
4. I needn't to remove system apps because I don't even use them.
5. IDK what's this obviously. :laugh:
6. What else?
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IMO root yes, of course, many reasons pick the ones you like most: uninstall bloatware, tweak kernel parameters, activate hidden options, xposed, greenify...
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What's IMO? What's bloatware? What's tweak kernel? What's all this? :silly:
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1. I use my device currently and needn't more space.
2. I already have Adguard, it's enough for me.
3. Yes, I've bored from the stock Android theme and want to change it.
4. I needn't to remove system apps because I don't even use them.
5. IDK what's this obviously. :laugh:
6. What else?
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Well I forgot to tell most important reason, because you can : D
Nowdays that's prety much all the stuf that matters for regular user.
Maybe bagroundplayback for youtube if it isn't already possible with regular app.
And it's kind of a plus that you can back backup your full system in TWRP, thought main reson for backups is that you are testing something unstable or new stuff which you can only do with unlocked bootloader.
PS. Your logic in 4 is kind of weird XDD
And dpi is kind of like resolution of screen but still very different but you can think of it as a weird resolution setting
Azzureux said:
Root was a good thing on earlier versions of Android. Now I don't think it's a necessity.
Custom ROM's seems a good idea, but if you don't have official version from the developers I myself don't recommend it.
You can try deoxed, modified or trimmed versions of stock ROM, to get more features.
If you have a branded phone I recommend to unbrand it to obtain ROM updates easily.
I recommend to keep stock for now because we get security patches from time to time.
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Can you explain more? I didn't got it :cyclops:
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What's IMO? What's bloatware? What's tweak kernel? What's all this? :silly:
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Are you kidding?
IMO = In My Opinion
bloatware = preinstalled apps you don't want but can't remove
tweak kernel = change kernel parameters such as min/max speed, governor, i/o scheduler, gpu speed and so
AmirGTX said:
Can you explain more? I didn't got it :cyclops:
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I'll try to be brief.
First I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S plus, android version was 2.3.6. Was a good thing? Yes, I had good devs who not only made Rom's up to Lollipop (I use now KitKat on it) but also repartitioned the space available through Twrp giving me more space for apps.
My next one was Galaxy S3 mini, android version was 4.1. I rooted it. Was a good thing? Yes and No.
Yes was good because I could use apps for backup, to remove bloatware, and posible to try custom ROMs.
No... Because I didn't had good developers, every custom ROMs had issues. That made me feel cautious and only installed stock ROM's that gave me more personalization and stable use of the phone (that doesn't mean I don't have problems with it, but it's mostly caused by apps who are not 100% compatible with KK ROM's).
Now let's talk about P8 Lite.
1. Can I squeeze more time of use from battery? Yes, we got the option <Ultra battery>.
2. Can I disable bloatware? I can't remove apps but I can disable them (MM has an option for it).
3. Can I backup apps and data? Yes. We got an option for it.
4. Can I get security updates for my ROM? Yes, for now we get security updates from Huawei.
5. Can I customize my ROM? To a point... Yes, you can customize the interface through themes, and the theme itself using other apps.
6. Can I get Nougat (version 7 of Android).
No, and you can start blaming Google for the requirements asked for it.
Yes, if you buy the 2017 version of the phone.
Sorry I was not brief. :good:
fosco_ said:
Are you kidding?
IMO = In My Opinion
bloatware = preinstalled apps you don't want but can't remove
tweak kernel = change kernel parameters such as min/max speed, governor, i/o scheduler, gpu speed and so
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Oh alright +1, why I need root else? (I'm just collecting info b4 rooting my device)
Azzureux said:
I'll try to be brief.
First I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S plus, android version was 2.3.6. Was a good thing? Yes, I had good devs who not only made Rom's up to Lollipop (I use now KitKat on it) but also repartitioned the space available through Twrp giving me more space for apps.
My next one was Galaxy S3 mini, android version was 4.1. I rooted it. Was a good thing? Yes and No.
Yes was good because I could use apps for backup, to remove bloatware, and posible to try custom ROMs.
No... Because I didn't had good developers, every custom ROMs had issues. That made me feel cautious and only installed stock ROM's that gave me more personalization and stable use of the phone (that doesn't mean I don't have problems with it, but it's mostly caused by apps who are not 100% compatible with KK ROM's).
Now let's talk about P8 Lite.
1. Can I squeeze more time of use from battery? Yes, we got the option <Ultra battery>.
2. Can I disable bloatware? I can't remove apps but I can disable them (MM has an option for it).
3. Can I backup apps and data? Yes. We got an option for it.
4. Can I get security updates for my ROM? Yes, for now we get security updates from Huawei.
5. Can I customize my ROM? To a point... Yes, you can customize the interface through themes, and the theme itself using other apps.
6. Can I get Nougat (version 7 of Android).
No, and you can start blaming Google for the requirements asked for it.
Yes, if you buy the 2017 version of the phone.
Sorry I was not brief. :good:
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Awesome, that's why I want to root it but I'm still waiting until LineageOS be available and stable without bugs for me. I bought my phone last year and updated it to MM 6.0 at 7 month of last year, now I have UPDATE.APP (got it from here) it has no bugs and too stable for me. So I saw tutorials here for rooting my device but it were too much big and I need to use my computer. NP if I used my computer but can't I root it using apps suck as KingRoot and then install the ROM? Also I want to know all thing about bootloader and unlocking it and all thing in this operation. I want to know to be deep for such as problems. Thanks for info
AmirGTX said:
Also I want to know all thing about bootloader and unlocking it and all thing in this operation.
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Few years ago, when we could not imagine that phones can get ROM updates, no one bothered about bootloaders. But after few years they were shocked to see old clients use same depleted phones with new ROM's.
If you look back, when Google started to release Android 3 and up, we can see that the manufactures didn't try to much to improve "the smartphones", the selling ideology was the same as before, manufactures imagined just few improvements for the new models.
But then iPhone appeared, Samsung Galaxy smartphone line appeared and rules changed. Everyone tried to sell smarter phones on the market, Apple had a closed system so everyone looked at Google and android delivered.
So after the "Wild West" period, manufactures wanted more control over their devices, don't forget that devices had hardware in many configurations, so to prevent bricked phones, to try to stop clients from destroying their devices and after ask for guaranty, bootloaders were invented. It's a compromising way for users to obtain root access and avoid warranty claims.
Now, we see that Google stepped a bit, with Android 7, by limiting the compatibility asking for minimum hardware from manufactures. It's a way to make clients buy new devices. Same thing we saw at Microsoft when it released Vista and up. It's a good way for manufactures to stop companies like CM to make unwanted ROM's updates. At the beggining CM ROM's where 100% bug free, but now we can't say the same. Manufactures don't release drivers for hardware so developers to implement new versions of Android on old devices.
For me the only viable option for ROM updates is stock modifications that try to remove restrictions in the software available thru all the world.
But why is Huawei giving a legal way to unlock the bootloader? It's a very easy way to see who still got guaranty and who is out of guaranty. And also it's a way to keep clients close by getting ROM updates faster, it's basically a removal of the middle man (manufactures can't live without firms that do installment sales) a way to increase the overall sales.
Imagine a person who needs a smartphone but can't afford it. Carriers can give devices for less, manufactures get the full price, and carriers get the whole price with interest over a limited period. And now manufactures have a problem, they need to keep clients of carriers happy, and need to push updates on the devices. Carriers see this as a loss of control, but can't make the manufacturer to keep the system closed. So for legal requirements bootloaders were invented.
You can ask for root, but manufactures and Google is giving secure control over the devices, that basically do same thing as apps that required root.
My final advice: if you don't plan to learn about android ROM development, if you don't plan to be a developer, then don't root. Wait until you get a new device, maybe with the new iteration of ROM. If you see something you like, then you can start learning and start developing.
:silly: can't believe i wrote so much. Happy reading and good luck.
Azzureux said:
Few years ago, when we could not imagine that phones can get ROM updates, no one bothered about bootloaders. But after few years they were shocked to see old clients use same depleted phones with new ROM's.
If you look back, when Google started to release Android 3 and up, we can see that the manufactures didn't try to much to improve "the smartphones", the selling ideology was the same as before, manufactures imagined just few improvements for the new models.
But then iPhone appeared, Samsung Galaxy smartphone line appeared and rules changed. Everyone tried to sell smarter phones on the market, Apple had a closed system so everyone looked at Google and android delivered.
So after the "Wild West" period, manufactures wanted more control over their devices, don't forget that devices had hardware in many configurations, so to prevent bricked phones, to try to stop clients from destroying their devices and after ask for guaranty, bootloaders were invented. It's a compromising way for users to obtain root access and avoid warranty claims.
Now, we see that Google stepped a bit, with Android 7, by limiting the compatibility asking for minimum hardware from manufactures. It's a way to make clients buy new devices. Same thing we saw at Microsoft when it released Vista and up. It's a good way for manufactures to stop companies like CM to make unwanted ROM's updates. At the beggining CM ROM's where 100% bug free, but now we can't say the same. Manufactures don't release drivers for hardware so developers to implement new versions of Android on old devices.
For me the only viable option for ROM updates is stock modifications that try to remove restrictions in the software available thru all the world.
But why is Huawei giving a legal way to unlock the bootloader? It's a very easy way to see who still got guaranty and who is out of guaranty. And also it's a way to keep clients close by getting ROM updates faster, it's basically a removal of the middle man (manufactures can't live without firms that do installment sales) a way to increase the overall sales.
Imagine a person who needs a smartphone but can't afford it. Carriers can give devices for less, manufactures get the full price, and carriers get the whole price with interest over a limited period. And now manufactures have a problem, they need to keep clients of carriers happy, and need to push updates on the devices. Carriers see this as a loss of control, but can't make the manufacturer to keep the system closed. So for legal requirements bootloaders were invented.
You can ask for root, but manufactures and Google is giving secure control over the devices, that basically do same thing as apps that required root.
My final advice: if you don't plan to learn about android ROM development, if you don't plan to be a developer, then don't root. Wait until you get a new device, maybe with the new iteration of ROM. If you see something you like, then you can start learning and start developing.
:silly: can't believe i wrote so much. Happy reading and good luck.
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Extremely awesome and thanks a lot. I want to start to learn about root but IDK from where can I start! There are no way to root any Android emulator and learn from it or executing on main device would be more stable?
IMO, root device it's a personal choice, the important question is:
There's something that you want to do and you can't because you need root?
To install custom rom you don't need root, you have to unlock bootloader, install a custom recovery (TWRP) and finally you can flash you custom rom (generally already rooted!)
ItalianWolf said:
IMO, root device it's a personal choice, the important question is:
There's something that you want to do and you can't because you need root?
To install custom rom you don't need root, you have to unlock bootloader, install a custom recovery (TWRP) and finally you can flash you custom rom (generally already rooted!)
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Ciao amico mio ? (some Italian from school ?) can you give me a tutorial for this? I need to try. Also why there are a lot of stuffs to root ALE-L21? What if I used apps such as KingRoot?
Ciao!
Kingroot, if it's working again, isn't a good root solution; i've tried (we were with lollipop) but messed up a lot of things so i had to re-flash stock firmware.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p8lite/general/mega-thread-root-unbricking-updating-t3400994
Yes for :
Tweak kernel, install AdAway and remove preinstalled apps.
personally for me is a must, i just do much things with root, anyways you could say i'm an advanced user of android so i need root, if you are good with your phone as it is, or a newer user of android, you don't need to root
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personally for me is a must, i just do much things with root, anyways you could say i'm an advanced user of android so i need root, if you are good with your phone as it is, or a newer user of android, you don't need to root
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I don't like normal things, I need to be special that's why I think to root my device. I'm neither pro nor newer. So I need to know if I rooted my device what will I do else custom ROMs and block ads and remove system apps?
I am not responsible for anything that happens to your device.
This is a port of MIUI 10 for the op6/6t
Flash at your own risk and make sure to check what's working. Logcats would be appreciated!
Instructions:
1: Flash OxygenOS 9.0.7 twice, this is very important
2: Extract the download somewhere
3: Run the OnePlus 6t flasher (make sure phone is still in fastboot/bootloader)
4: Reboot to TWRP (fastboot boot it if it dissapeared, if you install TWRP you must install Magisk)
5: Flash or adb sideload NFC fix that is included in the download
6: Reboot and install V4A Magisk module and enable headset and speaker, this fixes audio
7: Enjoy!
Download (v3):
MOD EDIT: LINK REMOVED
What works:
Everything except stuff in what doesn't work
What doesn't work:
NFC
Flashlight toggle (3rd party apps work)
MIUI camera (3rd party apps work)
Fingerprint (top priority - @nima0003 - me)
Audio fix #2:
Credits to @dougie313
Flash viper4android module
Grab root browser
Go to vendor\lib\soundfx folder and rename or delete all files in folder
Source code: https://github.com/OnePlusOSS/android_kernel_oneplus_sdm845
Credits: @nima0003 me @ProtoDeVNan0 for the current build
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Omar
What is it based on? And will you keep working on it?
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What is it based on? And will you keep working on it?
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Yeah, it'll be hard to do so because of school but I will. It's based off of mi 8 Dev miui (same soc)
nima0003 said:
Yeah, it'll be hard to do so because of school but I will. It's based off of mi 8 Dev miui (same soc)
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Ah, so it doesn't use OxygenOS as a base?
I'm personally very interested in a MIUI ROM for the OP6T and seeing that someone is willing to work on it makes me pretty happy.
What about features like the mute switch and in-display fingerprint sensor?
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Ah, so it doesn't use OxygenOS as a base?
I'm personally very interested in a MIUI ROM for the OP6T and seeing that someone is willing to work on it makes me pretty happy.
What about features like the mute switch and in-display fingerprint sensor?
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It's uses AOSP as the base rom, I'm pretty sure alert slider doesn't work yet, hell I'm not sure it even boots yet. But if someone is able to test and it boots stable I'll get to work on those type of things.
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It's uses AOSP as the base rom, I'm pretty sure alert slider doesn't work yet, hell I'm not sure it even boots yet. But if someone is able to test and it boots stable I'll get to work on those type of things.
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My 6T is my daily driver. I may back everything up later and test it out.
Wouldn't it be easier to use OOS as the base for better performance, easier porting of features and so on? Would also make most kernels compatible.
Am I correct in assuming this supports treble? If so, I'm sure it'll make it easier to focus on 6/6t features being added rather than worrying about troubleshooting compatibility ??
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Am I correct in assuming this supports treble? If so, I'm sure it'll make it easier to focus on 6/6t features being added rather than worrying about troubleshooting compatibility ??
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Yes it is treble based, but I didn't even think of the basic bootable gsi. I'll look more into this, thanks for the idea.
dennisbednarz said:
My 6T is my daily driver. I may back everything up later and test it out.
Wouldn't it be easier to use OOS as the base for better performance, easier portion of features and so on? Would also make most kernels compatible.
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Yes that's a great idea actually, I was just worried some framework stuff would get in the way but maybe not.
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Yes it is treble based, but I didn't even think of the basic bootable gsi. I'll look more into this, thanks for the idea.
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Sure thing! We finally got treble support via lineage os for the Moto Z2 Force, which really helped keeping the device alive. Also makes flashing a TON easier, so maybe it's a good place to start
I'm downloading to test, report back in a bit.
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Sure thing! We finally got treble support via lineage os for the Moto Z2 Force, which really helped keeping the device alive. Also makes flashing a TON easier, so maybe it's a good place to start
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My dad traded his z2 force for a 6t. Rom support was good but everything was messed up, camera didn't focus, no safteynet...
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My dad traded his z2 force for a 6t. Rom support was good but everything was messed up, camera didn't focus, no safteynet...
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There are workarounds, but I think it being one of the earlier devices having A/B partitions and basically being abandoned by Moto made it a task. I still have mine, but I wonder if there's something wrong with my device because I can't really flash anything beside rooted stock Rom, which leads me to think it's just a tedious device and I'd rather focus on my new 6t which is FAR superior in every way!
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There are workarounds, but I think it being one of the earlier devices having A/B partitions and basically being abandoned by Moto made it a task. I still have mine, but I wonder if there's something wrong with my device because I can't really flash anything beside rooted stock Rom, which leads me to think it's just a tedious device and I'd rather focus on my new 6t which is FAR superior in every way!
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Yeah same thing happened to my Xperia xc, I could only flash stock rom, not even rooted.
Flashing failed, error: invalid zip file format.
Dark Nightmare said:
Flashing failed, error: invalid zip file format.
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Great, thank you, working on it.
You would be my hero
It is great to see other types of roms, instead of only los type roms. Great to switch between them over time.
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Yes that's a great idea actually, I was just worried some framework stuff would get in the way but maybe not.
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Hopefully not. Lot's of people prefer stock-based ROMs specifically for the reason that they're usually more stable, almost always better performant and always better for battery (with the exception of TouchWiz). And the whole feature thing is also useful.
Lot's of people base the ROMs of Lineage as it usually has hardware specific support, but as we don't have official lineage yet and it would still be a lesser experience than a stock ROM, I strongly advocate for the OOS base.
Wish I could help out but I'm not a developer. If you need something designed, contact someone at Xiaomi, OnePlus or Google, or if you need some piece of code some person is sitting on, let me know (on Twitter or Telegram @dennisbednarz as i don't use the forum DM system).
So basically you just ported the OS and want testers? As of now, OP6T is just 3 weeks old and hardly would anyone dare to try something that says 'I highly doubt it'll work' in the OP.
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Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Opening up this thread in hopes some interest can be made.
Since the beta version of Android 13 dropped, I decided to boot into GSI roms to achieve root. To my surprise, not only did the GSI rom boot, but I was able to go through the google setup like a champ. Every now and again, I load different GSI roms to test and I am currently using Google QPR2. As it stands the following works:
What Works
Opening and closing the device actually works and renders content in open and closed state
Cellular/wifi radio works
Touchscreen works but there's issues (see below)
Camera works (albeit not as well as the pixel camera ports)
Notifications fully work
Android Auto works
SMS works
There is a very big problem with using the GSI - the device detects inputs from both screens whether opened or closed. So here's a list of what doesn't work:
Not working
Touch input (as previously described)
Phone features (phone vibrates but dialer never displays)
Battery isn't optimized (given)
If you want to test it and provide some feedback, I am using this GSI rom:
Android 13 GSI binaries and release notes | Android Developers
Notes and downloads for Generic System Images for Android 13 QPR beta builds.
developer.android.com
As always to install GSI roms, bootloader must be unlocked. To install, use DSU Loader. It's a rather painless process
domineus said:
Opening up this thread in hopes some interest can be made.
Since the beta version of Android 13 dropped, I decided to boot into GSI roms to achieve root. To my surprise, not only did the GSI rom boot, but I was able to go through the google setup like a champ. Every now and again, I load different GSI roms to test and I am currently using Google QPR2. As it stands the following works:
What Works
Opening and closing the device actually works and renders content in open and closed state
Cellular/wifi radio works
Touchscreen works but there's issues (see below)
Camera works (albeit not as well as the pixel camera ports)
Notifications fully work
Android Auto works
SMS works
There is a very big problem with using the GSI - the device detects inputs from both screens whether opened or closed. So here's a list of what doesn't work:
Not working
Touch input (as previously described)
Phone features (phone vibrates but dialer never displays)
Battery isn't optimized (given)
If you want to test it and provide some feedback, I am using this GSI rom:
Android 13 GSI binaries and release notes | Android Developers
Notes and downloads for Generic System Images for Android 13 QPR beta builds.
developer.android.com
As always to install GSI roms, bootloader must be unlocked. To install, use DSU Loader. It's a rather painless process
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hello and thank you very much for this feedback. after having watched this forum for a very long time, it is time for me to buy this magnificent smartphone because I have always used gsi pixel experience roms. but I would still like to have your opinion on the sound quality of this beast because on no comment and test nobody talks about it
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hello and thank you very much for this feedback. after having watched this forum for a very long time, it is time for me to buy this magnificent smartphone because I have always used gsi pixel experience roms. but I would still like to have your opinion on the sound quality of this beast because on no comment and test nobody talks about it
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GSI depends solely on a bootloader unlock. Unless you get an older device that hasn't been updated, I wouldn't purchase the device with the assumption that root is easy...
domineus said:
GSI depends solely on a bootloader unlock. Unless you get an older device that hasn't been updated, I wouldn't purchase the device with the assumption that root is easy...
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Yes indeed I understand that. but I read on the forum that unlocking the bootloader was back on a september update. but the question I ask myself more is the sound quality of the dual speakers. anyway thank you very much for your answer.
Bwhite... said:
Yes indeed I understand that. but I read on the forum that unlocking the bootloader was back on a september update. but the question I ask myself more is the sound quality of the dual speakers. anyway thank you very much for your answer.
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I'm not sure. THere are some who tried who weren't able to bootloader unlock for the September update or afterward.
Sound quality is subjective but I had zero complaints from the speakers
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I'm not sure. THere are some who tried who weren't able to bootloader unlock for the September update or afterward.
Sound quality is subjective but I had zero complaints from the speakers
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ok thank you for all this useful information.
Sorry for the stupid question, but what is GSI? is this a custom rom?
NeoGoku123 said:
Sorry for the stupid question, but what is GSI? is this a custom rom?
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Generic System Images (GSIs) | Platform | Android Developers
developer.android.com
domineus said:
Opening up this thread in hopes some interest can be made.
Since the beta version of Android 13 dropped, I decided to boot into GSI roms to achieve root. To my surprise, not only did the GSI rom boot, but I was able to go through the google setup like a champ. Every now and again, I load different GSI roms to test and I am currently using Google QPR2. As it stands the following works:
What Works
Opening and closing the device actually works and renders content in open and closed state
Cellular/wifi radio works
Touchscreen works but there's issues (see below)
Camera works (albeit not as well as the pixel camera ports)
Notifications fully work
Android Auto works
SMS works
There is a very big problem with using the GSI - the device detects inputs from both screens whether opened or closed. So here's a list of what doesn't work:
Not working
Touch input (as previously described)
Phone features (phone vibrates but dialer never displays)
Battery isn't optimized (given)
If you want to test it and provide some feedback, I am using this GSI rom:
Android 13 GSI binaries and release notes | Android Developers
Notes and downloads for Generic System Images for Android 13 QPR beta builds.
developer.android.com
As always to install GSI roms, bootloader must be unlocked. To install, use DSU Loader. It's a rather painless process
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Considering this for a x fold plus.
Were you able to fix the issues and if not, to what to extent are the effects. For example, with the battery not optimized how does it last and with the dialer not displaying are you able to answer the call? Touch input I assume is mostly an issue when using the larger screen (i.e. you accidentally input from the front screen).
NikG25 said:
Considering this for a x fold plus.
Were you able to fix the issues and if not, to what to extent are the effects. For example, with the battery not optimized how does it last and with the dialer not displaying are you able to answer the call? Touch input I assume is mostly an issue when using the larger screen (i.e. you accidentally input from the front screen).
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I wasn't able to fix them but I didn't try. I don't have the dev machine to try and fix the issues and rebuild a LoS GSI to get it working. Which is a shame :/
But given that I have had a really good time with it otherwise because I like the potential of it