I've recently switched to the Global ROM and I seem to be getting significantly lower SOTs compared to EU ROM. I usually get close to 5 hours SOT with 40% charge, an average of 11hrs SOT if I fully utilize the phone. But I never do deep discharges which are harmful for the battery and occasionally top up my phone's charge which is more friendly for lithium based batteries. So I don't think this is battery wear in just 3 months of owning the device.
Unfortunately, I am unable to track what app is causing the drain as my device doesn't seem to remain awake that often. I suspect this is something with the ROM or a rogue app which draws more power when the screen is on.
Anybody experiencing lower battery runtimes with the Global ROM?
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I've recently switched to the Global ROM and I seem to be getting significantly lower SOTs compared to EU ROM. I usually get close to 5 hours SOT with 40% charge, an average of 11hrs SOT if I fully utilize the phone. But I never do deep discharges which are harmful for the battery and occasionally top up my phone's charge which is more friendly for lithium based batteries. So I don't think this is battery wear in just 3 months of owning the device.
Unfortunately, I am unable to track what app is causing the drain as my device doesn't seem to remain awake that often. I suspect this is something with the ROM or a rogue app which draws more power when the screen is on.
Anybody experiencing lower battery runtimes with the Global ROM?
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Are you saying you get 11 hours total SOT on the Global ROM or the EU ROM? If that figure is from the Global ROM, thats all you can expect, and its also very good. If that is from the EU rom, what are you getting on the Global ROM?
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Are you saying you get 11 hours total SOT on the Global ROM or the EU ROM? If that figure is from the Global ROM, thats all you can expect, and its also very good. If that is from the EU rom, what are you getting on the Global ROM?
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I used to get around 11hours SOT on the EU ROM. But I only get around 7+ hours on the Global ROM.
Like I mentioned earlier,I never do deep discharges of the battery. I usually charge at around 30% and upto 80 or 90% and I used to get excellent battery life on the EU ROM.
On EU, by the time the phone discharges from 90 to about 50%, I would have close to 4.5-5hrs SOT but now I only get around half this.
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I used to get around 11hours SOT on the EU ROM. But I only get around 7+ hours on the Global ROM.
Like I mentioned earlier,I never do deep discharges of the battery. I usually maintain the charge at around 30% and upto 80 or 90% and I used to get excellent battery life on the EU ROM.
On EU, by the time the phone discharges from 90 to about 50%, I would have close to 4.5-5hrs SOT but now I only get around half this.
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Want to post a screenshot of your battery pages? Whats highest on the discharge? If you don't have root, I would start by at least getting bettery battery stats to see if your phone is deep sleeping or awake.
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Just finished reading through the 58 page post about battery life. Seems people are either getting about 6 sot or only 3 sot. I'm in the second group. Was curious if those that are getting near the 6 sot, if you are stock, rooted and decrypted, or running something custom.
Also, might not make a difference, but is your phone from Google or operator like t mobile
i get from 6 to nearly 8 hours sot, depending what im doing. root or stock, that didnt matter, same as encrypted and decrypted, it doesnt matter(im encrypted). i changed to the rastapop rom and lean kernel, and im still getting about the same battery life. most importantly for battery life is your signal quality, how you decide to set up your device, and which apps you chose to install. where i bought my phone has no bearing on its battery life(lol).
That is the purpose of the battery thread. It'd be nice if all posted the stats I mention in the OP. But to answer your question I get the same either way... All stock locked encrypted or rooted unlocked decrypted.
I got 5hrs sot with 24hrs unplugged until recently but that's because I installed some apps that want to keep my device awake for 3hrs a day. I am encrypted and running stock but am rooted.
I get 4hours on lowest brightness.. Includes WiFi browsing, 4g, videos, camera, music.. About 30mins of calls..
Also includes pushbullet that's on most of the time..
I don't understand how people get such good battery life.
Also that's only 12 hours of the phone being unplugged.. I'm at 12% right now.
I get 6-8 hours SOT, and three days between charges. It does not change if it is decrypted or not. I have tried it both ways and there is no discernable difference in battery with or without decryption.
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I get 6-8 hours SOT, and three days between charges. It does not change if it is decrypted or not. I have tried it both ways and there is no discernable difference in battery with or without decryption.
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3 days? How little do you use your phone? I couldn't make it a day and a half, nonetheless 3.
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I understand where the OP is coming from. I can't get that kind of battery life either. I notice that I can get nearly 5 hours SOT if I constantly use the phone as soon as I take it off the charger. If there is a lot of standby time mixed in, 3.5 to 4 hours is around the max I can achieve. I'm 100 percent stock unrooted.
I'm on at&t, rooted, and no encryption. Other than that, completely stock.
Imacellist said:
3 days? How little do you use your phone? I couldn't make it a day and a half, nonetheless 3.
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Actually quite a lot. I have greenified a lot and used service Disabler to get the battery life that I do. Come on 6-8 hours of screen on time. I have posted screen shots over in the battery thread.
jimbridgman said:
Actually quite a lot. I have greenified a lot and used service Disabler to get the battery life that I do. Come on 6-8 hours of screen on time. I have posted screen shots over in the battery thread.
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Wow that is impressive. If you have time to share all you did I know many people would be interested to try those settings out.
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Actually quite a lot. I have greenified a lot and used service Disabler to get the battery life that I do. Come on 6-8 hours of screen on time. I have posted screen shots over in the battery thread.
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I need to root to have service disabler working. I know that in the past this did not make a difference to ota updates, but i think in 5.0 it does. If i root, will i still get the ota updates when they come out
Is it possible that some units have bad battery or hardware that causes the difference. I have greenify running already and it did not seem to make a difference today. Phone still only got 3.5 sot. I loose about 10% per hour.
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Wow that is impressive. If you have time to share all you did I know many people would be interested to try those settings out.
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Here is my post in the battery thread where I explain what I did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57088676
Stock, ordered from Motorola, and getting 4-6 SOT.
Stock ROM and kernel, rooted, encrypted , adaptive brightness on, ambient display off ( i use double tap to wake) getting 4-6 hours SOT with 16ish hours off charger
PureShamu + lean kernel decrypted. No greenify, No app freezing. However I'm currently undervolted - 75 mv across the board. I avg 6 hr sot.
I'm running Validus ROM + Sensei Kernel, Decrypted , Greenify and Ambient Screen is off.
I average around 7 hours SOT. I have no issues making it through my typical day. Loving the Nexus!
Stock unrooted
I average about 10 hrs. Off the charger, with the screen on for about 8-9 of those hours. I plug it up at 10% and 1hr later I have 93% battery. I've noticed that all of my phones required this. LgG2, evo 4glte, evo 3d, ogevo.. I guess I'm just a heavier user than most.
For the past 2 months I have been using all the 6.0.1 ROMs and I hardly get around only 4 to 5 hours sot with those,but I remember of getting around 6 to 7 hrs sot with the earlier version 6.0 so I decided to switch to a 6.0 ROM again and there we go the battery life tends to get way better ,I just want to know whether its happening only for me or its a bug in 6.0.1?
Heck, I was on chroma since 5.0 and all the way till 6.0.1, could not get more than 2,5 hours of SOT and 6 hours of STAND BY no matter what kernel configuration I tried, changing kernels, Naptime... Decided to try Pure Nexus and fortunately now I get around 4 hours SOT with 10 hours StandBy, using HellsCore kernel. I agree that on 6.0 the battery was waaaay better, like 6 or 7 hours SOT and 2 days stand by. Any solutions?
you guys do realize that battery life is all dependent on your use, your setup, and your quality of signal? right? before 6.0.1 I got 5-6.5 hours sot daily, depending on what I was doing, and after 6.0.1 I am getting the exact same battery life. so, how you setup your device is also very important. I keepy brightness down at about 5-10%. and every time I raise my brightness by about 30%, I'll lose one hour of sot.
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you guys do realize that battery life is all dependent on your use, your setup, and your quality of signal? right? before 6.0.1 I got 5-6.5 hours sot daily, depending on what I was doing, and after 6.0.1 I am getting the exact same battery life. so, how you setup your device is also very important. I keepy brightness down at about 5-10%. and every time I raise my brightness by about 30%, I'll lose one hour of sot.
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I use the exact same setup for every rom I use,but this battery life difference is humongous between 6.0.1 and 6.0 roms which is almost 2 hours of sot !!
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I use the exact same setup for every rom I use,but this battery life difference is humongous between 6.0.1 and 6.0 roms which is almost 2 hours of sot !!
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again, rom doesnt determine battery life, at all. battery life is determined by your use, you apps installed, your setup, and your signal quality. sure, you might get an occasional wakelock ruining your battery, but its mostly determined by those factors. maybe your signal quality just sucks now?
I have noticed this too ... same setup and usage as before was wondering why I needed to charge so much
I'm on 6.0.1 (MMB29S), rooted, with Xposed running only Gravitybox, and I get over 6 hours (with brightness dialed down to about 40%). I could probably get even more SOT if my radio signal wasn't as crappy as it is.
I ordered this device yesterday but I worried about battery life, in reviews spoken the battery life was bad.
I dont have the device yet.
In the future the battery life was improvement on system updates?
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I ordered this device yesterday but I worried about battery life, in reviews spoken the battery life was bad.
I dont have the device yet.
In the future the battery life was improvement on system updates?
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I have to say I find the battery life to be outstanding if you are using the chinese rom. If using the global one it is really poor. There is another thread on here about battery life. Have a look at that
How much SOT on chinese rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/discussion-xiami-mi-5-battery-life-t3338693
I look that but I Asks you.
Chinese rom was better than global on performance and camera?
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I look that but I Asks you.
Chinese rom was better than global on performance and camera?
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In my opinion the chiense rom is much better although there are obviously some chinese apps there too
I'm reviewing the phone at the moment, my results on GeekBench 06:30:30 for runtime and a score of 3905 with the screen on maximum brightness. I've used the phone with dual-SIM and single-SIM and not struggled with it at all. MIUI 6.3.31 and it's the 64/3GB model. Hope that's of some help!
Battery life is usually good. SOT around 5 hrs for me and I usually play games.
However stand by is really odd one both the roms. Sometimes overnight it consumes 1%-3% sometime s 20%-25%, I still can't figure out why.
25% in night?? why?
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Battery life is usually good. SOT around 5 hrs for me and I usually play games.
However stand by is really odd one both the roms. Sometimes overnight it consumes 1%-3% sometime s 20%-25%, I still can't figure out why.
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Never seen that with mine. While at work during the day I only use it for the odd call and some texts along with a small amount of browsing. With the chinese rom I would have 85% charge left when I get home but with the global rom doing the same I would have about 65% left so clearly it wasnt going to sleep properly. Maybe thats what you are seeing
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Battery life is usually good. SOT around 5 hrs for me and I usually play games.
However stand by is really odd one both the roms. Sometimes overnight it consumes 1%-3% sometime s 20%-25%, I still can't figure out why.
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You have LG G2 before Mi 5? this is huge upgrade? better device in camera and more?
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You have LG G2 before Mi 5? this is huge upgrade? better device in camera and more?
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No, I haven't updated my signature from so long.
I have used nexus 5, galaxy s6(lost), lg g4 and oneplus 2 after Lg g2. For me galaxy s6 was the best device I have ever used.
Mi5 has a mediocre camera nothing exceptional about it xiaomi is creating hype about 4-axis and things however in reality it can't capture full hd video smoothly.
For sure Mi5 has better sound and battery and chipset but software wise I think any other phone out is better than this MIUI crap.
and believe me MIUI can never get fixed until and unless they changed their framework completely. As of now MIUI 7 is based on MM but it doesn't have a single feature of MM so what is the use of such OS. MIUI is for users who just want to keep applying themes and do nothing else.
I am never going to buy xiaomi again.
Hoping I get my hands on an AOSP or CM ROM soon or else I have to sell this ****.
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Never seen that with mine. While at work during the day I only use it for the odd call and some texts along with a small amount of browsing. With the chinese rom I would have 85% charge left when I get home but with the global rom doing the same I would have about 65% left so clearly it wasnt going to sleep properly. Maybe thats what you are seeing
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I really don't know what is wrong but I experience the same on both the ROM's, yesterday I got 7.2.12 and after that it consumed only 3 % overnight even with alarm on.
Also, I have one more strange bug whenever I start playing coc my wifi gets disconnected and it gets disconnected randomly too, are you facing any such thing like this.
You have the wakelock qpnp_fg_memaccess that is draining battery. Check with wackelock detector..
Same happened to me one night from 40% to 6% in 6 hours..
This happened because Qualcomm introduced a new feature called Fuel Gauge that is managing the battery and is not working really like it should..
Strange.. I used my phone heavily(not gaming of course) and hardly to hit 70% in 8 hours during day time.
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spavian said:
You have the wakelock qpnp_fg_memaccess that is draining battery. Check with wackelock detector..
Same happened to me one night from 40% to 6% in 6 hours..
This happened because Qualcomm introduced a new feature called Fuel Gauge that is managing the battery and is not working really like it should..
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So what does one do about it? its my first day on mi5, i cant say that battery is bad.. its almost same as on a Sony Z5P.
My Mi5 is doing great on the battery... I use it at work i use it at home... during the night it drain around 5% max. Normally i can say it can last 1,5 days...
Using China Stable 7.3.3 With some battery usage tweaks..
Using CM13 I go all day without recharging from 7am to 7pm
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Same here on CM 13 battery is good, lasting 2 days.
saarxee said:
I ordered this device yesterday but I worried about battery life, in reviews spoken the battery life was bad.
I dont have the device yet.
In the future the battery life was improvement on system updates?
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MI5 is one of the crazy device ever! Once you receive the phone you will be keep busy with experiment. Some people will tell battery life is outstanding and some like me will say battery life is poor.
My impression about MI5 is, usually after buying a phone we try to use it hassle free. But MI5 will create lots of confusion and make you trend to experiment lots of things until you get the perfection.
Currently the global ROM is most worst ever ROM and it will make you frustrated. Some people will tell China ROM is better but eventually until unless you are Chinese, you will never like chinese things!
Just now flashed CM13 and looks impressive!
The way you charge helps with endurance as well
Try getting into the habit of not letting your battery level drop below 15%. Charge it from there to 100%. Was a big item on xda some months ago about expanding the quality of a modern smartphones battery.
So, on top of MIUI 11 completely destroying the battery life, I had another drop in longevity of a charge.
Could it be possible that my battery died after less than 6 months of owning the phone?
I'm not going to use AccuBattery as it's wildly inaccurate on every phone I used it on.
Get a battery stats app which can log the runtime & battery consumption accurately then try to post here so people can check it out... Something like battery battery stats etc
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So, on top of MIUI 11 completely destroying the battery life, I had another drop in longevity of a charge.
Could it be possible that my battery died after less than 6 months of owning the phone?
I'm not going to use AccuBattery as it's wildly inaccurate on every phone I used it on.
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i use rom custom, battery 8hs screen, miui is bad, change you kernel of system. candy kernel is my favorite.
Hi folks.
Aight m11 battery is pretty horrible ngl.
I got my m11 with miui 12.5. 1st day I got it battery dropped to 40% within 5 hrs with 30 mins sot.
I was sad phone trash.
Next day was better but very buggy battery still drain not as bad was at 60% after 5 hrs 1hr screen time.
Next couple of weeks playing with it.. Trying to figure out better battery usage but why should I its a flag ship phone?
Battery was still very buggy sometimes drained 20% over night sometimes it was fine. Got miui 12.5 enhanced slight improvement.
I got all excited waiting for miui 13. 1st impression very good. But battery life sot averaging 4.5 hrs 100% to 5%. Idle time very good too.
But now I got oneplus 10 pro. Yes oneplus had extra 500mah but I get more battery out of it ngl. Whole phone is better and I use it the same.
So my question is it the cheap hardware xiaomi use like battery for not so OK sot.
Or is it the software? Because miui 13 hella improved battery life and is very stable compared to 12.5.
And the roms on here will they have noticeable better battery life? People should know the difference between miui and own roms sot. I'm tempted to try it
I have a few months old Mi 11 Ultra with miui 13 and I am experiencing the same problems...
I think it combination of bad battery and software.
The 20% drop at night is a sure indication that something is running in the background... that probably doesn't need to be.
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The 20% drop at night is a sure indication that something is running in the background... that probably doesn't need to be.
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Yes it was random sometimes did sometimes didn't. Yes but miui 13 fixed idle consumption.
My oneplus 10 pro 96% battery life 40 mins sot put it that way. And 80% is when the battery drains the least
Yes my brightness is at 30% inside now. But my battery still alot better. But I don't understand why some xiaomi phones have great battery life with same spec as other phones but not the Mi11?
Demon God b said:
Yes my brightness is at 30% inside now. But my battery still alot better. But I don't understand why some xiaomi phones have great battery life with same spec as other phones but not the Mi11?
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Most Samsung phones need to be optimized for best battery life.
Xiaomi's likely has to be as well. You need to find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
Using manual brightness control helps save your eyes and battery.
Yes my brightness is at 30% inside now. But mbattery still alot better. But I don't understand why some xiaomi phones have great battery life with same spec as other phones but not the Mi11?
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Most Samsung phones need to be optimized for best battery life.
Xiaomi's likely has to be as well. You need to find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
Using manual brightness control helps save your eyes and battery.
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I have auto Brightness on hence 30% brightness inside. And I looked on my battery settings and nothing was running on Mi11 I've done nothing to my one plus 10pro and battery pretty good for a flag ship
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Yes my brightness is at 30% inside now. But mbattery still alot better. But I don't understand why some xiaomi phones have great battery life with same spec as other phones but not the Mi11?
I have auto Brightness on hence 30% brightness inside. And I looked on my battery settings and nothing was running on Mi11 I've done nothing to my one plus 10pro and battery pretty good for a flag ship
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It's may well the firmware or factory loaded software. However it could be 3rd party apps misbehaving. Google apps tend to cause battery consumption troubles...
Android give you a lot of freedom to configure them the way you want. Cookie cutter Apples doesn't so it's easy for Apple to optimize their products. So with Androids the end user needs to pickup the slack many times and find work arounds or setting changes.
Yes but even if I use my phone straight off charge its still roughly 6hrs sot indoors (no sim) WiFi only 20% screen brightness. When I used it outdoors with sim 4.5 hrs if that . So I don't think non sleeping apps where doing it. I look on my battery usage and it says my apps used 3600 mah battery including screen with 25% battery left with 4.4hrs sot. So no mis behaving apps.
It might sound good but my screen brightness super low
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Yes but even if I use my phone straight off charge its still roughly 6hrs sot indoors (no sim) WiFi only 20% screen brightness. When I used it outdoors with sim 4.5 hrs if that . So I don't think non sleeping apps where doing it. I look on my battery usage and it says my apps used 3600 mah battery including screen with 25% battery left with 4.4hrs sot. So no mis behaving apps.
It might sound good but my screen brightness super low
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You need to see how much each app and service are using, then figure out why. It takes some time and effort to track them down... a learning curve.
FB, WhatsApp, all social media apps should never be installed on the device. If you can't access them using browser login, forget them. They are nothing but trouble...
Yes bro I checked had enough of mi 11 no apps causing trouble checked for months.
Idle consumption very good lose 0% over night sometimes. I thought miui 13 would have substantial battery increase but only fixed idle consumption.
I thought maybe they would optimize battery usage better like Samsung 21 ultra.
My oneplus 10 pro is on 2hrs sot with 40% brightness and 84% battery life. Very good battery life no need to worry bout it dying when I'm out
Its not me thinks mi 11 battery trash too 90% reviews say to and GSMarea gives it a rating of 84hrs and the one Plus 10 pro 104hrs battery endurance
Now back to my original question is it xiaomi cost saving software optimization trash or battery hardware cheap?
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Now back to my original question is it xiaomi cost saving software optimization trash or battery hardware cheap?
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You won't know until you work with it more trying to optimize it.
This Note 10+ was a hot running battery hog until it was optimized. It gets 7-8% @hr now when browsing with Brave. It took months to finally dial it in. Over a year to really get it right.
A lot of work. My second N10+ was a snap to optimize as I knew what to do.
One thing I do is not to upgrade firmware* or app updates as this can start another cycle of trying optimize the new firmware/apps. I'm running on Pie and Android 10, malware is not an issue.
*if I have a fast, stable OS... I let it be!
R u serious. What do u mean optimize? Putting apps to sleep isn't really optimizing.
Ur trying to improve battery when only really the developers can fix it.
Yes putting it in dark mode 60hz putting everything to sleep not running nothing fun having brightness on 0% will improve battery life but experience will be trash.
My oneplus Pro 10 is out the box restored all my data whatsapp 3 emails with sync on 4g nothing optimized. Screen brightness normal too (I want a good experience)
battery optimization or battery hardware is great. The layout skin in oneplus 10 pro its faultless too and looks alot better than xiaomi.
Other hand is xiaomi mi11 definitely a cheap battery or lazy developers to cut costs hence the price but one plus 10 pro is same price. But other xiaomi phones r very good battery life so I'm confused
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R u serious. What do u mean optimize? Putting apps to sleep isn't really optimizing.
Ur trying to improve battery when only really the developers can fix it.
Yes putting it in dark mode 60hz putting everything to sleep not running nothing fun having brightness on 0% will improve battery life but experience will be trash.
My oneplus Pro 10 is out the box restored all my data whatsapp 3 emails with sync on 4g nothing optimized. Screen brightness normal too (I want a good experience)
battery optimization or battery hardware is great. The layout skin in oneplus 10 pro its faultless too and looks alot better than xiaomi.
Other hand is xiaomi mi11 definitely a cheap battery or lazy developers to cut costs hence the price but one plus 10 pro is same price. But other xiaomi phones r very good battery life so I'm confused
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Global power management never worked for me, disable it and deal with each power hog on a case by case basis. Limiting background data/battery usage in individual app settings doesn't invoke global power management.
Some apps like Brave browser need to be closed after use or they continue to run in the background. I disabled Google play Services unless needed. I use a package disabler to kill anything bloatware or other apps/services that cause trouble and aren't needed.
I never said it was easy... there's a steep learning curve.
Dependencies; disabling a parent app/service can have far reaching consequences, good or bad. Try to understand what you are disabling.
Acquire or use the already loaded the tools you need to help find the trouble makers... play with it.
Definitely ****ty software, battery backup is much better on AOSP-based ROMs.