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I've been a Samsung user since the note 1 days because I was attracted to the screen size. I forget which phone I originally had but it was an HTC phone with a 5 inch screen. Back then that old outdated phone and the note 1 were the largest phones available.
Anyways to my question, I currently have a note 3 and battery life is dreadful. I've always had 2 batteries for my phones since my Nextel days. I've never owned a phone without a removable battery so my question is to anyone that's owned a battery removable phone or owned an android phone without removable battery, how does the Nexus 6 compare? I've been with android since donut and it's always been a hog on the battery, especially since I'm a heavy user.
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I've been a Samsung user since the note 1 days because I was attracted to the screen size. I forget which phone I originally had but it was an HTC phone with a 5 inch screen. Back then that old outdated phone and the note 1 were the largest phones available.
Anyways to my question, I currently have a note 3 and battery life is dreadful. I've always had 2 batteries for my phones since my Nextel days. I've never owned a phone without a removable battery so my question is to anyone that's owned a battery removable phone or owned an android phone without removable battery, how does the Nexus 6 compare? I've been with android since donut and it's always been a hog on the battery, especially since I'm a heavy user.
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well, I'm a heavy user and my battery makes it through a full day without issue. I see about 5-7hours sot depending what I'm doing. but, then again, how you setup your device makes a huge deal, so does your signal quality. most everyone that I've seen doesn't knuw how to setup a device properly, some I've seen do.
Also a large screen guy that always had removable batteries. Note 2 and LG G2 were my last two phones. Not a heavy user, I get two days on a charge.
Highly suggest Franko's Kernal for battery life.
The new features in the last couple of Android OS iterations like Doze and Battery Saver really make the most of the Nexus 6 battery.
Doze is great but I really like Battery Saver. It automatically kicks in when your battery hits 15% but if I know I'm going to be away from a charger for awhile I engage it manually. It limits the notifications I get but it really stretches the battery.
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well, I'm a heavy user and my battery makes it through a full day without issue. I see about 5-7hours sot depending what I'm doing. but, then again, how you setup your device makes a huge deal, so does your signal quality. most everyone that I've seen doesn't knuw how to setup a device properly, some I've seen do.
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Ok see knowing someone else that's a heavy user and can get anything better than I can relaxes my mind before I dive in and make my purchase. thanks to all that have commented.
mo2002 said:
Ok see knowing someone else that's a heavy user and can get anything better than I can relaxes my mind before I dive in and make my purchase. thanks to all that have commented.
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just remember, the brighter you keep your screen, the fast battery will go. most of the time I keep my brightness from 0-15%, if I raise it to 35% then I lose an extra hour of screen on time.
I'm not sure why everyone says the battery life is horrible on the Nexus 6. I've not had any issues, esp with Doze in Marshamallow now.
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I'm not sure why everyone says the battery life is horrible on the Nexus 6. I've not had any issues, esp with Doze in Marshamallow now.
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I NEVER have battery issues, at all. AND my n6 never ever uses doze. to use doze, it has to be laying flat, and motionless. when I'm not using my phone, its in my back pocket.
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I'm not sure why everyone says the battery life is horrible on the Nexus 6. I've not had any issues, esp with Doze in Marshamallow now.
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Idk if you're speaking about me or others, but I was saying my N900v has bad battery life. I'm gonna be purchasing a nexus 6 since I no longer need the SPen. I just wanna make sure the battery is better than previous android devices that didn't allow removing the battery.
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I NEVER have battery issues, at all. AND my n6 never ever uses doze. to use doze, it has to be laying flat, and motionless. when I'm not using my phone, its in my back pocket.
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Is the doze app and doze feature in marshmallow, the same or very similar?
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Well, I consider myself a heavy user, and I also once used Note 1 and 3.
Here is the thing, I only read ebooks alot on phones, not facebook.
Note 1 and 3, I got 10+ hrs SOT, reading (Black background and light grey text), disable auto brightness. I use LUX instead.
I also disable Google location history. (So no Google Now) (and I also disable all the Google stuff I don't use)
I get 2 days battery life on all three phones. With 40%+ battery life left.(Note 1, 3 and Nexus 6) - No root, stock.
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Is the doze app and doze feature in marshmallow, the same or very similar?
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I've never used the app, so can't tell you 100%. but it says in its description that its different, but its based on the real doze.
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Idk if you're speaking about me or others, but I was saying my N900v has bad battery life. I'm gonna be purchasing a nexus 6 since I no longer need the SPen. I just wanna make sure the battery is better than previous android devices that didn't allow removing the battery.
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I used to have a Samsung before myself. The battery swelled and Samsung wouldn't replace it. Nonetheless the Exynos chip and Knox pretty much did it for me so I'm done with Samsung.
Btw, for some reason I love that avatar LOL. Where did you get that ?
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Well, I consider myself a heavy user, and I also once used Note 1 and 3.
Here is the thing, I only read ebooks alot on phones, not facebook.
Note 1 and 3, I got 10+ hrs SOT, reading (Black background and light grey text), disable auto brightness. I use LUX instead.
I also disable Google location history. (So no Google Now) (and I also disable all the Google stuff I don't use)
I get 2 days battery life on all three phones. With 40%+ battery life left.(Note 1, 3 and Nexus 6) - No root, stock.
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I probably could do without google now but I use the search feature and weather options a lot but I could do without it constantly pinging.
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I used to have a Samsung before myself. The battery swelled and Samsung wouldn't replace it. Nonetheless the Exynos chip and Knox pretty much did it for me so I'm done with Samsung.
Btw, for some reason I love that avatar LOL. Where did you get that ?
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Lol from 1 of my gaming groups on Facebook. Like 90% of my memes come from that group.
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Battery life has been great with Pure Nexus and ElementalX. Usually get 6-8 hrs SOT over a full day of heavy use. I can go 36+ hrs between charging with moderate use.
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Battery life has been great with Pure Nexus and ElementalX. Usually get 6-8 hrs SOT over a full day of heavy use. I can go 36+ hrs between charging with moderate use.
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Nice nice. I have had 1 Motorola phone and that was the first one they had on Verizon. Think it was called the thunderbolt. Only reason I didn't keep it was because I couldn't get H+ speeds on my GSM carrier, but the battery was awesome in that phone.
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Intro
I'm a big fan of smart watches in general; the Gear Fit (GF) was my first true smart watch type device. I've owned a few Android wear watches as well including the LG G Watch, LG Urbane, and Huawei Watch. I really liked the idea of Android Wear it just lacked a lot of benefits for the price. Now, with Samsungs re-emergence into the fitness tracker world I'm hoping for a much improved product. I realized that what I really wanted was a solid fitness tracker with a nice screen, and dedicated GPS; unfortunately none existed until I read about the least fir the Gear Fit 2 (GF2). I'm excited to bring everyone my views as a long time smartwatch and fitness band user (also tried to the Fitbit and xiamoi mi band), so stay tuned for my review today.
Overview:
Samsung made a great looking device this year for people that want less of a smart watch, and more of a fitness band that doesn't look hideous. The Gear Fit 2 (GF2) is very light given how sizable it is compared to the first generation Samsung made. Samsung carried over their seamless band design used in the Gear S2 which is nothing short of fantastic looking. My GF2 does have a small defect on one side where the band meets the frame, but that is not characteristic of all GF2’s, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
Unboxing Video
What’s in the box:
Samsung Gear Fit 2
Charging cradle
Documentation
Note: There is no wall adapter included in the box, so you can use any adapter from a reputable brand of course to charge the GF2.
Charging Cradle:
Band Removal & HR Sensor
Sizing and Fitment:
I originally purchased the large band size given how my wrists are 6.5in as I measured via a body tape measure. I found the large to be way too big overall; I had to use the second to last notch inward for it to even remotely not slide around my wrists. Now, if you look at Samsung’s sizing information that I took from their website below, you will see how that might be slightly off what most people would expect like myself. With the small size GF2, I have the band somewhere in the middle in terms of the notches. Since you want the GF2 to read your HR accurately (we can only hope), I would ensure that you can make it slightly tighter if you want to just in case it cannot read your HR correctly. I feel that Samsung made the device itself nearly the perfect size for the average person like myself. For reference I am 5’8” and weight 142lbs, and active daily.
Wrist Measurement:
Large 155-210mm (6.1-8.26in)
Small 125-170mm (4.9- 6.69in)
Build and Design:
Samsung opted to make their GF2 out of anodized aluminum (from the feel and my understanding after checking), which is a big step up from the plastic faux chrome Gear Fit (GF) that was released back in 2014. I really enjoyed all of my Android Wear watches, but I felt something was missing from them to make the purchase feel less like you’re buying a $3-400 notification machine. My Huawei Watch was a beautiful amalgamation of stainless steel, sapphire and modern design, but it couldn’t deliver the extra functionality to justify its price which is why I sold mine after 9 months. If you have very small wrists like my wife, the GF2 will look very strange, and most likely be uncomfortable for daily use (as my wife said). The band is made out of a elastomer type material that is both soft, durable and flexible, plus it is easily changed via Samsung’s proprietary connectors that are also used on the Gear S2. On the right hand side of the display you will find a set of buttons. Each button serves a different purpose, but unfortunately Samsung did not texture the power button like most companies do for phones. The smaller button is used for powering on/off the device, and can be programmed to do different things via quick double press while the bigger button’s main function is to go back.
On the front you will of course find a Super AMOLED panel curved to perfection and wrapped in Gorilla Glass 3 (too bad they didn’t use GG4) that bursts with the vivid colors, deep blacks and other great things you expect from Samsung. I am a huge AMOLED fan, in fact I don’t think I could use another phone (HTC 10 included) that uses a non AMOLED display because they are simply stunning to look at in any light. As for the brightness, you can see it in direct sunlight, but the brightness needs to be manually adjusted since there is no light sensor to be found. There are 10 conventional brightness levels, and 1 (level 11) that is only intended for outdoor usage as the popup notification states when you adjust it that high.
Buttons & Body
Software and Apps:
First, for those of you that don’t already know this device runs Samsung’s own OS called Tizen. This was done because the OS itself is more efficient for wearables than Android which seems to remain true still. My Android Wear watches had batteries 1.5-2x bigger and didn’t last as long as this is supposed to. Since I just got my Gear Fit today (6/10/2016), I cannot speak for how long it will last fully just yet, but my original gear fit lasted 7 days. Granted the original gear fit didn’t have automatic activity tracking, GPS, or HR monitor while working out; I would expect the GF2 to last 1.5-2 days with my usage. I will conduct a full drain test and post daily updates below with notes about what I did that day, brightness level(s) used, GPS on/off etc. (see Battery life test below)
The Gear Fit 2 is compatible with all Android devices running Android 4.4 Kitkat and above which is a good start for Samsung. I am glad they added support for non-Samsung phones because that’s why I stopped using my original Gear Fit. Everything can be managed from the Gear Fit 2 itself, but you need to first set it up on a phone before using standalone mode. Music is also transferred directly to the GF2 via the gear manager like many tasks. There is a little over 2GB free for music and other things which isn’t a huge amount; I wasn’t expecting a lot of storage anyway for music, so while 2GB isn’t ideal it is still enough for some workout music. When I installed the Gear Manager app on my Nexus 6P, the app prompted me to download 2 additional apps for the GF2 to work. I was not a big fan of being forced to install more apps just to use it on my non-Samsung phone, but the apps are not intrusive like some of Samsung’s other apps, so at least it’s not all bad. I haven’t experienced any issues using the GF2 via my Nexus 6P, but you do need to also download S Health if you want to sync your fitness activities. There is no Google Fit integration that I have seen, so I hope Samsung adds it in at some point because Google Fit is more streamlined. S Health does offer some things that Google Fit does not such as sleep tracking via the GF2, yet that isn’t a deal breaker for me.
I tested the GPS lock which seems to be nearly instant, and accurate as far as I could tell. The GPS location icon will blink during activities when you have it enabled (see my software hands on video) making it easy to know whether or not it’s on or off. For notifications you will get a nice little “buzz” which is very noticeable compared to my Huawei Watch and hard to not feel due to how close the fit is strapped to your wrist. On the ‘watch face’ you can also enable a notification icon which is a little yellow dot (on my current face) in the upper left hand corner that lets you know there’s a notification waiting for you.
Currently there are only a handful of 3rd party apps including Spotify, and some watch faces for the GF2. I really hope Samsung gets other developers onboard to make more useful apps for the GF2 like one for your loyalty cards (Starbucks, grocery stores etc) because it really helps out when you need to quickly scan a card. This isn’t a huge deal, but rather it’s something that I miss from my Android Wear watches.
On the software side there are a ton of things to discuss, so I tried to briefly cover what I felt was relevant; however, if anyone has specific questions please feel free to let me know below. I will try to answer all of the questions that I can in a timely manner.
Update [6/12]: As @Sher The Love pointed out there are some small ways Tizen operations on the GF2 that might bother people.
First:
There is no way to have a split view of your distance and speed while tracking activities, or any combination of that data besides the stock (speed, distance, time vs HR), or HR with time.
Second:
While the GF2 does post weather data when you record an activity there is no native app for it on the GF2 itself. There is a way to view weather via some of the 'watch faces', but that isn't always ideal for everyone.
Third:
Samsung only has an option to clear all notifications or none at all; this means you cannot swipe a single one away like you would expect. Now that I've spent more time with the device I can say this is a little annoying, yet at the same time I like clearing all of them at once is nice most of the time.
Lastly:
If you are out of Bluetooth range notifications can be pushed from your phone to the GF2 over WiFi just like an Android Wear watch can. This is a great feature to have, and gives the GF2 more of a smartwatch like ability to go alongside the fitness tracking.
Some of you asked about the constant HRM during workouts, and its accuracy. I wanted to post some screenshots from my HRM throughout the day (today), and data for a short walk I did yesterday which also used GPS for the speed data.
Workout HRM Log Sample
Software Overview Video
Update 6/17
A more in-depth look at the software and hardware:
In-depth Look Part 1
In-depth Look Part 2
In-depth Look Part 3
Gear Manager App:
Gear Manager & S Health App Overview
Music Transfer:
Installed Apps (for non-Samsung phones)
View while tracking an activity:
Activity tracking on the device with GPS map
Battery life test:
I am going to charge my device to 100%, then proceed to wear it without charging until it dies. My settings for the test are as follows (unless otherwise noted)
-GPS: on for activity tracking (only when you start activities)
-Brightness level 5
-Ambient always on mode: Off
-WiFi: Off
-Tilt to wake: Off
-Auto HR monitoring periodically throughout the day
-Sleep tracking
App Notifications: On for about 12 apps (this isn’t a huge amount if you consider how many apps give you notifications daily)
I will add an update 24 hours from the time I post this showing the battery %, and detailing my daily usage.
Day 1 Battery (Start time 2350 6/10):
The sleep tracking isn't accurate, at least not during the first night from what I've seen. I went to bed around 0030, and woke up at 0630. The Gear Fit 2 reported that I went to sleep at 0400 and woke up at 0630 which is only partially accurate.
From 2350 on 6/10 to 0830 6/11 the Gear Fit 2 only drained 4% total which is really good for being idle given it's small battery. I will add more updates about today's usage as I use it today.
Daylight display test while on a walk
Day 1 Battery ~23 hours later
It is now 2237 as I'm typing this, and the battery on my GF2 is sitting at 68%. I used GPS to track a 45 minute walk, and had all of the above things enabled as I mentioned. I also brief had the brightness at 11 for a minute or two so I could show the screen outside for a video. I also had the brightness down to 1 for another video so keep that in mind because both of those could potentially impact battery life. As of right now it looks like the GF2 should last a full 2 days (48 hours), or slightly more using GPS. I will report back with the battery % tomorrow morning when I wake up.
Day 2 Battery
I woke up this morning and the battery drained ~8% overnight since I last checked it. I expect to make it through todsy but possibly not all of tomorrow depending on how much the GPS drains it during activities. I also wanted to point out how the sleep recognition is not accurate after 2 days of checking it; I hope this issue gets addressed in a future update.
Day 2 Battery end of day update
I didn't do any real exercising today as I had initially planned, so I wasn't able to use the GPS aside from when it would track my walking throughout the day. My battery is not at 39% after 48 hours off the charger; it has been on my wrist the whole time aside from when I took showers (I know it's IP68 rated, but I don't want to intentionally expose it to water).
Today I had the automatic WiFi enabled, along with all of the initially mentioned conditions outline in the test. I don't expect to make it through the whole day tomorrow, so I will update the battery test tomorrow morning when I wake up.
Day 3 Battery morning update
The battery drained 8% overnight which put me down to 30% when I woke up. The sleep tracking was slightly better tonight than the previous two nights; it actually came withing 15 minutes of when I went to bed and woke up which is a lot better than before.
I went on a 50 minute walk this morning with my wife; the GPS was on the whole time, and I ensured my phones Bluetooth was off so it would use the GF2's GPS not the one on my phone. The battery started at 28% and ended at 19% during that 50 minute interval which is more realistic than the 4% I saw during a similar period. As of right now I decided to turn the battery draining tilt-to-wake function on to see how big of an effect it has on your battery life. During the past 2 hours it has taken a 5% hit on my battery which is significant compared to how little the GPS drains relative to what both functions are doing. I don't expect to make it through the whole day, so I will post another update when it does die here in the new few hours if I had to guess since I'm using the tilt-to-wake. I enabled that to show people the high drain it causes, and so you can see how it impacts your daily use of the GF2. I hope everyone is enjoying reading about these results; stay tuned for more updates! :laugh:
Day 3 Battery Final update
I went on yet another walk with 9% battery, tilt-to-wake on, GPS on, and brightness level 6. I successfully tracked the entire 72 minute walk with my GF2 dying minutes after I got home; I couldn't have predicted, nor asked for something that perfect, but hey it all worked out!
I am more than happy with the battery life of the new GF2 given its GPS, smaller battery than the original (10mAh smaller), and constant HRM during workouts. The total battery life with my normal usage as described each day was 66 hours; that is better than most if not all Android Wear watches doing the same thing, and a fair amount of fitness trackers that have similar abilities and screens (Microsoft band).
Battery Update 6/17
After giving the GF2 another full cycle I managed to get a solid 3 days of use out of it as opposed to the 2.75 I got before. I turned power saving mode on when my battery hit 10% around 1500 (3pm), and it's now 2310 and my battery is at 7%. Power saving mode does limit the device substantially, but it just goes to show you how big of a difference it can make while still counting your steps. I might get closer to 80 hours of use at this point, so anyone that doesn't use HRM, or GPS should be able to hopefully get 4 days of battery life; if anyone does I would like to know what your set up is/was, so I can post about it here.
I hope this battery test will help everyone out, and give them a good ideal of what to expect with their GF2 based on normal to heavy usage tracking activities.
Summary:
I really like what Samsung has done with this year’s Gear Fit 2; all of the right boxes are checked as far as features, design and build quality go. I wouldn’t change more than a small thing or two personally, so if you want a fitness tracker that has a fair amount of smart watch features I don’t think the GF2 will disappoint you. While there are a limited number of useful 3rd party apps currently, I hope that changes in the future to make things better along with Google Fit integration. The SAMOLED display is nothing short of pure greatness, and the seamless flowing of the screen to band really makes this device stand out.
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It is technically a S7 Edge accessory, therefore I am posting it here unless mods feel that it would be better suited elsewhere. The Gear VR is also a S7 Edge accessory and it's discussed here too. There is no dedicated Gear Fit 2 forum like there was for the original Gear Fit which is another reason I posted it here. I'm open having it moved elsewhere; I figured people that also own the S7 Edge would appreciate seeing this since it relates to the phone.
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Hey, still going through everything. Busy night at work. Middle of watching the walkthrough. I see it has wifi?? Has no idea. Is this like wear where if you step away too far from your phone, wifi will connect and maintain the connection between the watch and phone for notifications?
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Hey, still going through everything. Busy night at work. Middle of watching the walkthrough. I see it has wifi?? Has no idea. Is this like wear where if you step away too far from your phone, wifi will connect and maintain the connection between the watch and phone for notifications?
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It does have WiFi, although I haven't played with it enough to see how it works just yet. I will test that out, and or look into it's purpose. I think it would be nice if the GF2 worked like you mentioned which is how AW watches do it when you move far enough way from your phone. I should have an answer for you later today (since its Saturday now), but if for some reason I forget to update you about that drop me a message/post quote/mention.
Edit: it will scan for networks while disconnected from your phone which might imply notifications will also go over wifi. Here's what it says when you turn wifi on:
https://goo.gl/photos/vCeUZ237XYpSTsFY6
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It does have WiFi, although I haven't played with it enough to see how it works just yet. I will test that out, and or look into it's purpose. I think it would be nice if the GF2 worked like you mentioned which is how AW watches do it when you move far enough way from your phone. I should have an answer for you later today (since its Saturday now), but if for some reason I forget to update you about that drop me a message/post quote/mention.
Edit: it will scan for networks while disconnected from your phone which might imply notifications will also go over wifi. Here's what it says when you turn wifi on:
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Yeah certainly sounds like it will do just that. Try to connect to wifi when Bluetooth is disconnected. That's a big feature that no other strictly fitness trackers don't have.
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Yeah certainly sounds like it will do just that. Try to connect to wifi when Bluetooth is disconnected. That's a big feature that no other strictly fitness trackers don't have.
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I will test it out today for you when I get a chance; hopefully it works just like that.
I will add another short video showing how the Gear Manager app works, and some of the other features present on the Gear Fit 2.
Great review! Super thorough!
I will be getting one I for Father's Day and am very excited!
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How does the GF2 screen compare to the S2?
Is it sharper or brighter in the sun?
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Great review! Super thorough!
I will be getting one I for Father's Day and am very excited!
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Glad to hear, that; let us know how you like it!
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How does the GF2 screen compare to the S2?
Is it sharper or brighter in the sun?
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I don't own a gear S2, so I cannot speak to its outdoor performance. The gear fit is visible in the sun if you crank the brightness up to 10 or 11;(11 is specifically for bright sunlight as it says), but since there is no ambient light sensor you need to manually adjust it for outside.
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You're very welcome.
I'll be sticking around for the time being to do some lurking...[emoji102] [emoji102] [emoji41]
I added a video under the battery test showing how the display looks in moderate to bright daylight while tracking an activity.
I also would like to know about the WiFi notification possibility.
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I also would like to know about the WiFi notification possibility.
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I disconnected my GF2 from bluetooth, connected it to my WiFi, and emailed myself to see if anything was pushed to the GF2. To my disappointment nothing popped up, on the GF2, but I might be doing something wrong. I'm going to play around with the WiFi some more and I will hopefully have a more definitive answer for you tomorrow.
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I disconnected my GF2 from bluetooth, connected it to my WiFi, and emailed myself to see if anything was pushed to the GF2. To my disappointment nothing popped up, on the GF2, but I might be doing something wrong. I'm going to play around with the WiFi some more and I will hopefully have a more definitive answer for you tomorrow.
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How long do you estimate the battery would last with GPS active while not using Bluetooth streaming? I'm trying to see how long of run someone could go on with GPS. Thanks.
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How long do you estimate the battery would last with GPS active while not using Bluetooth streaming? I'm trying to see how long of run someone could go on with GPS. Thanks.
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I had mine connect to my phone via Bluetooth not streaming anything and it only went down 4% in 45 minutes which seems abnormally low. I think the drain should have been much higher, so I will have to let you know tomorrow when I can further verify the battery drain during usage.
If I had to estimate a time using only GPS based on what I've seen now I would say 8 hours, but I doubt it's that high unless Samsung worked some magic with it.
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I had mine connect to my phone via Bluetooth not streaming anything and it only went down 4% in 45 minutes which seems abnormally low. I think the drain should have been much higher, so I will have to let you know tomorrow when I can further verify the battery drain during usage.
If I had to estimate a time using only GPS based on what I've seen now I would say 8 hours, but I doubt it's that high unless Samsung worked some magic with it.
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Thanks. 4% does seem abnormally low for that. 8 hours would be great though. Keep us updated
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Thanks. 4% does seem abnormally low for that. 8 hours would be great though. Keep us updated
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I was shocked to see that when I finished my walk, but until proven otherwise tomorrow that's what it showed. I even went as far as to disconnect my GF2 from Bluetooth to ensure it was using its gos and not my phones. When I use it tomorrow I expect to see 10-20% GPS drain per hour given its small battery. I'll keep everything up to date as I get time throughout the dsy
So, my first Note 7 was great. I had none of the reported lag or battery life/battery drain problems. I replaced it last Friday. The replacement phone is set up identically, but my battery life is much worse. I have yet to hit 4 hours SOT, with my max being around 3. On the old one I always got at least 4. In battery usage, Android System is at the top of the list, and CPU total is 6.5hr out of the 12 it's been off the charger. Nothing has changed so I have no idea why this would be. Is there a fix for this? Has anyone else had this issue with their replacement?
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So, my first Note 7 was great. I had none of the reported lag or battery life/battery drain problems. I replaced it last Friday. The replacement phone is set up identically, but my battery life is much worse. I have yet to hit 4 hours SOT, with my max being around 3. On the old one I always got at least 4. In battery usage, Android System is at the top of the list, and CPU total is 6.5hr out of the 12 it's been off the charger. Nothing has changed so I have no idea why this would be. Is there a fix for this? Has anyone else had this issue with their replacement?
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Unfortunately, it's a wide spread issue. Many people are reporting battery issues, such as drain and slower charging. All signs are pointing to these new batteries being jank. Either that, or built in software changes in the firmware to intentionally neuter battery performance for safety measures.
I am having the same issue bad battery drain.
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I had horrible battery with my first one and more of the same with this new one. I get through my 8hr day at work with 20-15% left and just a Lil over 1hr screen time. Always android system and android os keeping the cpu going.
I disabled just about all Samsung bloat except Knox and ant services. Gonna see how it goes tomorrow.
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I had horrible battery with my first one and more of the same with this new one. I get through my 8hr day at work with 20-15% left and just a Lil over 1hr screen time. Always android system and android os keeping the cpu going.
I disabled just about all Samsung bloat except Knox and ant services. Gonna see how it goes tomorrow.
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Let me know how it goes. With my original phone I was getting the best battery life I've ever gotten from a phone (the Nexus 6 previously held that title). Very disappointed that the replacement doesn't last like the original.
same for me... any reason known ?
My fast charging seems to not be working, at least I don't think so. Worked perfect on my v1 note 7. Now, no lie it's charges quicker with fast charging turned off. Found that strange. And my battery life is horrible cause I'm always on my phone so nothing weird there lol
Not sure if this will be relevant for anyone else:
I found in another thread (that I cannot find for the life of me now...) some talk about an issue with Oculus Home eating up a lot of resource while attempting to install itself, failing and continuously retrying. I thought my phone was broken. I went from full to 20% in 5 hours extremely warm the entire time, typing in any app was painful. It prevented the gear fit 2 plugin from updating causing all sorts of weirdness with S health and my gear fit 2. So much so that I called Samsung tech support for the first time (great btw).
I got rid of everything Oculus related on my phone and now it feels brand new.
That app was like cancer it seems
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Not sure if this will be relevant for anyone else:
I found in another thread (that I cannot find for the life of me now...) some talk about an issue with Oculus Home eating up a lot of resource while attempting to install itself, failing and continuously retrying. I thought my phone was broken. I went from full to 20% in 5 hours extremely warm the entire time, typing in any app was painful. It prevented the gear fit 2 plugin from updating causing all sorts of weirdness with S health and my gear fit 2. So much so that I called Samsung tech support for the first time (great btw).
I got rid of everything Oculus related on my phone and now it feels brand new.
That app was like cancer it seems
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Yea the last oculus update destroyed the app. I hope they get it fixed soon.
http://phandroid.com/2016/09/30/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-battery-drain-oculus/
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Let me know how it goes. With my original phone I was getting the best battery life I've ever gotten from a phone (the Nexus 6 previously held that title). Very disappointed that the replacement doesn't last like the original.
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Slightly better today so far but still horrible. Snapchat is killing the battery. I sent 2 snaps and looked at a couple stories.
I miss my ver. 1 battery life
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I swear I have a galaxy s6. This battery life is straight atrocious.
Hey all,
I'm looking to get a smartwatch for my birthday this month, and I'm on the fence between this watch and the Gear S3.
I use a wearable only for notifications, and I do hear that the Gear S3 is a little bad in that respect (especially with Whatsapp that I use a lot).
But the S3 has a standard strap and i like the looks slightly better.
Well so I wonder, how do you guys like it? I know that forums are usually for people with problems trying to find a solution, so we read "negatives" mostly. So would you recommand it?
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Hey all,
I'm looking to get a smartwatch for my birthday this month, and I'm on the fence between this watch and the Gear S3.
I use a wearable only for notifications, and I do hear that the Gear S3 is a little bad in that respect (especially with Whatsapp that I use a lot).
But the S3 has a standard strap and i like the looks slightly better.
Well so I wonder, how do you guys like it? I know that forums are usually for people with problems trying to find a solution, so we read "negatives" mostly. So would you recommand it?
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If you have a little patience and wait there will be
many third party watch bands for the Zenwatch 3
to choose from in the near future.
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If you have a little patience and wait there will be
many third party watch bands for the Zenwatch 3
to choose from in the near future.
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Yeah, sure, but that's not the actually most important
How do you feel about it?
I bought this watch at the end of 2016. I wear it every day and since now I'm happy with it. I had a zenwatch 1 before and this one looks better. I use it mostly for notifications. The battery life is OK, at least as good as zenwatch 1 : It last almost 2 days. The charger is far better. The screen is great. Sometimes the automatic brightness is a bit slow. Even if I don't use them too much, the 2 extra buttons wihch allow to launch any app are a good idea.
If you don't need HR sensor I think zenwatch 3 is a better deal than gear s3 (less expensive and thinner). Waiting for android wear 2.0 to see if it improves the experience
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I've had a pebble 1st gen (backed it on kickstarter), a gear fit, an Lg G watch, an mtk2052c and a moto 360 1st gen.
The Zenwatch 3 is in my opinion the best looking and operating. I'm very happy with it.
Of all the smartwatches I've had it gets the most attention and i love the fact I can have an always on display last a day easily, I get from 5.30am till 10-11pm with around 40% left. I usually wear it at night and a 30 min charge when I'm showering/shaving gets me back to 100%
I bought mine right before Xmas, and I just basically wanted to try one out. I really expected that I would end up returning it. Now it is nearly the middle of February, and I would not trade this watch now for anything else. lol. I really like it! It always gets lots of comments, and two people who have seen it have purchased their own.
Nice to hear, thanks for your opinion, guys ^^
I'm going to get one too, yeah, sound like the best choice on a non Samsung phone and the more I look at it the more I like it
It's a little hard to find in Hong Kong strangely but, well, that's part of the fun haha
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I've had a pebble 1st gen (backed it on kickstarter), a gear fit, an Lg G watch, an mtk2052c and a moto 360 1st gen.
The Zenwatch 3 is in my opinion the best looking and operating. I'm very happy with it.
Of all the smartwatches I've had it gets the most attention and i love the fact I can have an always on display last a day easily, I get from 5.30am till 10-11pm with around 40% left. I usually wear it at night and a 30 min charge when I'm showering/shaving gets me back to 100%
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Similar path for me. Pebble-->Moto 360-->ZW3. The ZW3 is, by far, the best watch. Battery is great and it looks like a very nice, regular watch. I get lots of compliments on it.
Love mine....had a Moto, a Zenwatch 1 and 2 previously (and a Martian) each new generation gets better. The Zenwatch 3 looks and feels much classier and the screen is lush
Zenwatch 3 is my first smartwatch I'm having it 2.5 months and I'm really happy at general.
1.Solid battery life meaning 1.5-2 days with always on display on for 12-14 hours per day use.
Getting Plenty of notification(2 email account ,WatchApp) music control,changing watch faces several time per week.
2.Attractive beautiful design and solid well build quality.
3.Smooth responsive from OS.
4.Excellent OLED screen.
5.Fast charging is also a nice feature( just 30-40 minutes to full charge from 15-20%)
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my watch suits me but for the battery life it will last two days only with a black face and white hands other wise 24 hours tops. If you could get a battery pack as advertised it would give you a good full day. depending on you spend i would go for the samsung gear thee depending how big your wrists are they cost over 300 pounds new and are 3mm thicker app. i bought mine from ebay it came from Poland perfect sealed box. good luck i hope you make the right choice.
I got my ZW3 for Christmas. I own six mechanical watches and I tend to wear the Zenwatch more often out of them all.
I've seen the Fossil Q, Huawei, Moto 360, and everything else in person and yeah, they're nice, but this is the best looking one out there. People at work have complimented on it a few times.
Battery does pretty well. Easily lasts 24 hours and the fast charge really is FAST. I pushed the Fossil Q faces to it and I think they look better on the Zenwatch! Lol.
The only other watch I'd consider right now is the Gear S3. It is pretty neat and the price dropped recently.
Bought my watch last Sunday, so far I'm really happy with it.
Battery life isn't perfect yet, but read that it could take some days before it's optimised.
Simply love being able to read notifications on my watch without having to grab my phone first. Also noticed I finally start using "ok google" now, never really liked having to grab my phone for it.
Now I use it for simple tasks like setting a timer, reminding me to do a task, etc.
No complains yet, other than having to wait a bit longer for 2.0 than I expected. But I'll manage
@R_Hybrid where did you get the Fossil Q faces?
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@R_Hybrid where did you get the Fossil Q faces?
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@DaringDomino3s Under Apps & Themes in the Huawei watch forum here. There's a thread with the apk files there.
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@DaringDomino3s Under Apps & Themes in the Huawei watch forum here. There's a thread with the apk files there.
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Thanks, maybe if I get more time free, I'll fiddle with it, I'm not currently confident with adb to mess with it just yet.
I thought it would just be something I install on my phone and it shows up on the watch.
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Thanks, maybe if I get more time free, I'll fiddle with it, I'm not currently confident with adb to mess with it just yet.
I thought it would just be something I install on my phone and it shows up on the watch.
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Super easy to push it via adb. The video he posted with the apk shows how to do it.
It just takes a bit to get the Android SDK set up on your computer if you haven't done so already.
Traded in my gear S3 and was skeptical after people said battery life sucks. I did what I usually do, Disable all health activity trackers and inactivity prompt, hr every 10 mins, manual ecg and spo2 twice daily, no always on, and bixby always listen turned off. I voice reply to 30+ texts a day and check it very frequently and you a countdown timer several times daily at work. I really only care about steps and HR due to my job being physical so no reason to have activity trackers turned on. I hit the 48hr mark and had 33% left. I am happy and waaay better than apple watch charge every day. I hated having to charge the apple watch to use sleep tracking. Sleep tracking on this watch is excellent. I am happy with the purchase. Was $303 after trade.
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Traded in my gear S3 and was skeptical after people said battery life sucks. I did what I usually do, Disable all health activity trackers and inactivity prompt, hr every 10 mins, manual ecg and spo2 twice daily, no always on, and bixby always listen turned off. I voice reply to 30+ texts a day and check it very frequently and you a countdown timer several times daily at work. I really only care about steps and HR due to my job being physical so no reason to have activity trackers turned on. I hit the 48hr mark and had 33% left. I am happy and waaay better than apple watch charge every day. I hated having to charge the apple watch to use sleep tracking. Sleep tracking on this watch is excellent. I am happy with the purchase. Was $303 after trade.
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Good to hear that you like your watch. I am quite happy with mine (same model). One question: how did you set spo2 to twice daily, and where would you set ecg to automatic? Can't find a related setting for both in either Samsung Health or the Health Monitor apps.
He wrote "manual" twice daily
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He wrote "manual" twice daily
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I guess I read what I wanted to read
Problem solved.
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I guess I read what I wanted to read
Problem solved.
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Seems like it would be pretty easy to create an app that would take BPM three times a day. Just code it to only read if you've been sitting for 15 minutes. Get even more complex and have it detect when you've eaten, and to wait at least 30 minutes or whatever.
Even if the individual readings have a fairly high variance, you'd think an average over a week or a month would be a good indicator of changes/trends.
Same thing with SPo2 while you sleep. I think Samsung plans to do that, but right not that sensor is pretty clearly not ready for primetime.
Oh yeah-sorry, it was manually. The spo2 requires you to have rested for 5 mins or so for optimal results. Auto on that feature(if that was possible) probably would not be even close to accurate I am guessing.
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Oh yeah-sorry, it was manually. The spo2 requires you to have rested for 5 mins or so for optimal results. Auto on that feature(if that was possible) probably would not be even close to accurate I am guessing.
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I did it lying in bed today after I woke-up. First reading was 89, next reading was 88.
Still completely all over the place. Laughed when I saw reviews for Apple and you have to "rest your arm on a table, and don't move for 30 seconds". What a frickin' gimmick from these guys! The fingertip sensors start reading SPo2 immediately, your arm doesn't need elevated and you can even move around a little bit. Heck, you can even get readings while exercising.
I think the future is going to be multiple devices. A smart ring will be a critical companion to the watch - the ring will simply be better at reading temp and SPo2, and might even allow for periodic auto-ECG readings. Other possibilities will involve a sensor implanted under your skin.
Good idea! My reading is usually 95 or 96 but I have no baseline to compare it to.
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Congratulations! Beautiful watch. I got an Active 2 and I'm really enjoying it too.