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Hello everyone,
Is it possible to run dual OS on the galaxy S tab? Like Android and Apple !?
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yahase said:
Hello everyone,
Is it possible to run dual OS on the galaxy S tab? Like Android and Apple !?
Bionix 1.3.1 - Hard Brick Samsung Vibrant 3/4/2011
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Is that a serious question?
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Seems like a legitimate question to me, ViewSonic's ViewPad 10 already does Android-Windows dualbooting, and XDA itself has a thread about dualbooting the HD2 with WM and Android.
If the OP's asking about Android and iOS specifically though, then probably the answer might be no. If someone could do it though, it might actually be a good thing for the Android crowd: shows the Apple fans that choice and customizability is a good thing.
I was thinking the other day that my Tab would be pretty cool if running Windows Thin PC, saw info and a download on the MS site the other day while working on my wifes netbook.
I dont see a problem with either a full working version of Ubuntu or Windows on the GT and Android, or just the full OS. Seems reasonable to put an OS on what is essentially a tablet PC.
I would think its just a matter of a bios, and loading the OS, but I am not a programmer, so I could very well be wrong.
But....I'd load Windows or Ubuntu on the tab if it gave me the 3G ability as well as all other functions.
oldmacnut said:
I was thinking the other day that my Tab would be pretty cool if running Windows Thin PC, saw info and a download on the MS site the other day while working on my wifes netbook.
I dont see a problem with either a full working version of Ubuntu or Windows on the GT and Android, or just the full OS. Seems reasonable to put an OS on what is essentially a tablet PC.
I would think its just a matter of a bios, and loading the OS, but I am not a programmer, so I could very well be wrong.
But....I'd load Windows or Ubuntu on the tab if it gave me the 3G ability as well as all other functions.
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IIRC I think there's already a thread on XDA on bringing Ubuntu to the Tab. With Windows it might be trickier. The ViewSonic ViewPad 10 runs on Intel Atom, which is already used by other netbooks that run Windows. Windows might not be designed to run on ARM however, which is used on many Android devices. Processor design differences may be the key factor in porting the OS. (I've gotten Gingerbread to run on my Atom netbook though, alas I still couldn't get the touch screen to work)
Would be the first to jump onto dualbooting Android with Windows if it ever comes to fruition though; I'm a Windows developer and it'll be cool if I could write small apps and use them on my Tab.
oldmacnut said:
I dont see a problem with either a full working version of Ubuntu or Windows on the GT and Android, or just the full OS. Seems reasonable to put an OS on what is essentially a tablet PC.
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You can't run Windows because there is currently no ARM version, though MS say that they will support ARM in Windows 8, but by the time this sees the light of day, the Tab will be obsolete.
There is a thread in the dev forum about porting Ubuntu to the Tab, but I believe it is still a long way from fully functional.
Regards,
Dave
I already posted the question about fully functions in ubuntu for the tab. Specially the phone and sms functions but they denied it. I keep following and hope some day it will work
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Thanks for the responses guys. Let's hope one day it would be possible!
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since both iOS and Android are ARM based in most cases, you could probably make it happen.
Both Android and iOS are Unix based, so we could achieve this.
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It could be easier to port iOS than Honeycomb because iOS source code is avalaible for public, for improvements and bug seeking.
So, Yes, we could have dual OS on the tab, it could be windows, Ubuntu, Maemo, iOS and even Symbian
ellokomen said:
It could be easier to port iOS than Honeycomb because iOS source code is avalaible for public, for improvements and bug seeking.
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iOS source code is most certainly not available!
Regards,
Dave
I am pretty open to ether one of the operation systems its just i never owned a android or an windows phone 7 my first smart phone was the touch pro 2 and that is dated now so i trying to step into something a little newer. I wan't to know which one is better hardware wise in which get a good quality of of updates
Rez757 said:
I am pretty open to ether one of the operation systems its just i never owned a android or an windows phone 7 my first smart phone was the touch pro 2 and that is dated now so i trying to step into something a little newer. I wan't to know which one is better hardware wise in which get a good quality of of updates
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hardware wise... the Galaxy S 4G will be 'superior' to any WP7 device.
with that said, however, to my knowledge, no WP7 phone requires such hardware.
the WP7 experience is superb on any WP7 device.
software wise... the HD7 with WP7 would be better, imho.
my experience with Android has always been sluggish no matter the hardware.
with WP7, however, i have used (HD7, Trophy, Surround, and the Arrive) the experience has always been superb.
edit. you might read this article...
it explains why WP7 devices don't have multi-core processors, supporting my opinion about the hardware and software.
just my two cents and opinion.
sh4d0w86.
Windows Phone 7 is more stable and faster than android
however android applications is much more than wp7 , so far
it is almost a year now with my HD7 and I never had any kind of problem and I'm very satisfyed with the wp7
I'm heavy emails and multimedia user and for sure I can tel you that wp7 is the good choice
Is there any chance of it ever happening?
I had to say a sad goodbye to my HD2 WP7 to make way for my new Galaxy Note.
Personally, I prefer the WP7 OS to Android, and it would be a dream come true if it were ever available on a Note.
The problem here is that with a Linux-based operating system port all of the components are open source and hackable in order to get them to work on specific devices. With a Microsoft operating system this is *not* the case since MS don't open source any of their components and thus it would be damn near impossible to get this to work on a device it wasn't intended for.
The only exception here would be if there was some kind of emulator of another device which it *was* designed to work on developed for Android but I really can't see that happening since I just don't think it has the same following as Android and thus there wouldn't be much of a market for it.
TL;DR version: No.
Although we might be able to install windows8 arm at the end of the year.
For hackers and tweakers as a lot of us are, this opens some nice horizons
so why didnt you just get a wp7 handset? the note wont be running anytime soon, you know how much hacking and that the hd2 has a nice boot loader to aloow magldr to interface with it to get the other os supported?
friedje said:
Although we might be able to install windows8 arm at the end of the year.
For hackers and tweakers as a lot of us are, this opens some nice horizons
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Oh yes! I completely forgot about Windows 8
Should be interesting.
Richy99 said:
so why didnt you just get a wp7 handset? the note wont be running anytime soon, you know how much hacking and that the hd2 has a nice boot loader to aloow magldr to interface with it to get the other os supported?
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I love everything about the Note except Android, but I also love WP7. So I had to make a tough decision, and the Note just edged it
Hi:
I current have an HTC HD2 Telstra, and it came with Windows Mobile. Thanks to the brilliant folks at XDA, I have been successfully running Android, and every time I want to upgrade the type of Android I use, I simply replace the Android folder….simply brilliant.
So I now have no need for Windows Mobile, and am looking to do the same with Windows 8 and Android, and I am trying to find which phone out there is as versatile as the HTC HD2 Telstra, and comes with Windows Phone 8 installed.
How will I know which phone with Windows 8 installed will enable me to also install Android in the same fashion? If I could create the phone, it would be a 5” screen, Windows 8, and a lot of power. Anything close to that would be acceptable, but it must be Windows 8. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Chaz
With Windows Phone 7 there was never a port of Android to any device and given that WP8 employs Secure Boot to make sure only verified OS-code is loaded and executed I highly doubt we will see anything similar to the HD2 with WP8. Aside from that no one would be able to say that beforehand.
No Windows Phones do what you want.
Why not just buy an Android phone if that's what you want (for some inexplicable reason)?
chazperx said:
Hi:
I current have an HTC HD2 Telstra, and it came with Windows Mobile. Thanks to the brilliant folks at XDA, I have been successfully running Android, and every time I want to upgrade the type of Android I use, I simply replace the Android folder….simply brilliant.
So I now have no need for Windows Mobile, and am looking to do the same with Windows 8 and Android, and I am trying to find which phone out there is as versatile as the HTC HD2 Telstra, and comes with Windows Phone 8 installed.
How will I know which phone with Windows 8 installed will enable me to also install Android in the same fashion? If I could create the phone, it would be a 5” screen, Windows 8, and a lot of power. Anything close to that would be acceptable, but it must be Windows 8. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Chaz
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Why don't you just buy a galaxy note if you want android and 5" screen, why on earth would you want to buy a windows phone just to port android????
lumpaywk said:
Why don't you just buy a galaxy note if you want android and 5" screen, why on earth would you want to buy a windows phone just to port android????
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Because I can....lol I like the flexibility of running two different OS, and the additional apps I can use as a result. Keep in mind, I really don't need anything, but if its possible with WIN8 and Android....why wouldn't anyone want two OS on one phone?
chazperx said:
if its possible with WIN8 and Android
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Firstly, Windows 8 does not run on phones.
Secondly, Windows Phone 8 devices will not be able to run Android (thankfully).
Thirdly, no Android device will be able to run Windows Phone 8.
I think you will need 2 separate phones, or you will have to choose one or the other if you only want one phone.
tai4de2 said:
Firstly, Windows 8 does not run on phones.
Secondly, Windows Phone 8 devices will not be able to run Android (thankfully).
Thirdly, no Android device will be able to run Windows Phone 8.
I think you will need 2 separate phones, or you will have to choose one or the other if you only want one phone.
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OK....it seems that XDA haven't cracked code that disables other OS on Windows Phone. I'm counting on that, but I wont go two phones, I would just buy a cheap tablet.
Thanks for your help and suggestions.
chazperx said:
OK....it seems that XDA haven't cracked code that disables other OS on Windows Phone. I'm counting on that, but I wont go two phones, I would just buy a cheap tablet.
Thanks for your help and suggestions.
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If you want a tablet then windows 8 tablets (not windows phone) will run bluestacks.
Do windows phone 7 and 8 apps run on Windows 7 and 8 desktops?
chazperx said:
Do windows phone 7 and 8 apps run on Windows 7 and 8 desktops?
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Only if you have an emulator. Windows phone 8 and windows 8 share a common kernel and a lot of cross platform ability however an app will need to be written for the phone or for windows 8. That said in most cases this is just a case of how you compile it or a very small amount of code change so you can expect the growth of windows 8 and windows phone 8 to push each others markets up.
chazperx said:
Hi:
I current have an HTC HD2 Telstra, and it came with Windows Mobile. Thanks to the brilliant folks at XDA, I have been successfully running Android, and every time I want to upgrade the type of Android I use, I simply replace the Android folder….simply brilliant.
So I now have no need for Windows Mobile, and am looking to do the same with Windows 8 and Android, and I am trying to find which phone out there is as versatile as the HTC HD2 Telstra, and comes with Windows Phone 8 installed.
How will I know which phone with Windows 8 installed will enable me to also install Android in the same fashion? If I could create the phone, it would be a 5” screen, Windows 8, and a lot of power. Anything close to that would be acceptable, but it must be Windows 8. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Chaz
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One word...wait... Android for the HD2 did not come out the day the phone was released. The ONLY reason why it had Windows Phone 7 is because Microsoft used it in their testing of WP7, so drivers were leaked and everyone built on it as they learned more. Android was ported to Windows Mobile devices and most, if not all of them were able to run some flavor of Android, even if was just the SDcard boot method.
Time will tell if there will be that magic device that Microsoft MIGHT of used in testing that ran all OS's (WM, WP7 and WP8) and then you might have a earier chance but, I would not count on it.
The only thing you can do is wait, one of the hacker will attempt one device at one point, if they succeed AND release it, you might have it.
Right now, the odds of it happening is very low on phones that have not been released yet and even for months after.
I wish you luck but, if you really want Android more than Windows Phone, I might suggest to just pick up a Android device.
Good luck
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One word...wait... Android for the HD2 did not come out the day the phone was released. The ONLY reason why it had Windows Phone 7 is because Microsoft used it in their testing of WP7, so drivers were leaked and everyone built on it as they learned more. Android was ported to Windows Mobile devices and most, if not all of them were able to run some flavor of Android, even if was just the SDcard boot method.
Time will tell if there will be that magic device that Microsoft MIGHT of used in testing that ran all OS's (WM, WP7 and WP8) and then you might have a earier chance but, I would not count on it.
The only thing you can do is wait, one of the hacker will attempt one device at one point, if they succeed AND release it, you might have it.
Right now, the odds of it happening is very low on phones that have not been released yet and even for months after.
I wish you luck but, if you really want Android more than Windows Phone, I might suggest to just pick up a Android device.
Good luck
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If Microsot ever tries their new Windows Phone 8 on HTC HD2..
I'm pretty sure that they would ask Cotulla to develope a new Magldr for them
NOTE: I anso own a hd2...
chazperx said:
Because I can....lol I like the flexibility of running two different OS, and the additional apps I can use as a result. Keep in mind, I really don't need anything, but if its possible with WIN8 and Android....why wouldn't anyone want two OS on one phone?
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There are advantages to each OS. I presently have dual boot Wp7.8 (pdaimatejam) and Android on the same HD2 (with 32gb SDcard). It is just brilliant. I can run either and both the latest in these are very smooth. Got the best of both worlds - pretty unique.
This thing appears to have the same specs as the Surface 2, other than the screen res. Anyone know of any plans for a Windows RT ROM for the TF701T?
Had anyone ever made a Windows RT rom for any device?
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Don't think anyone wants too. Windows RT is generally shunned by most people, and with the price of the pro tablets dropping, I don't really see the point in it.
Just my opinion, and I could be completely wrong
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think windows RT is open source.
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Windows RT is a proprietary product of Microsoft and is closed source in every way. Distributing Windows RT without Microsoft’s consent is a sure-fire way to get yourself in jail for infringing on Microsoft’s intellectual property rights. I suspect it will also be almost impossible to make Windows RT run on any Android devices without the help of Microsoft. Furthermore, Windows RT requires UEFI secure boot, which is not available on the tf701.
On a less relevant note, except for Microsoft Office, there is zero reason for me to use Windows RT. Windows 8.1 devices are already cheap enough. If one day Intel and AMD manage to produce low-power SoCs that are powerful enough to run Photoshop and Excel, there will be no need for Windows RT then.
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Windows RT is a proprietary product of Microsoft and is closed source in every way. Distributing Windows RT without Microsoft’s consent is a sure-fire way to get yourself in jail for infringing on Microsoft’s intellectual property rights. I suspect it will also be almost impossible to make Windows RT run on any Android devices without the help of Microsoft. Furthermore, Windows RT requires UEFI secure boot, which is not available on the tf701.
On a less relevant note, except for Microsoft Office, there is zero reason for me to use Windows RT. Windows 8.1 devices are already cheap enough. If one day Intel and AMD manage to produce low-power SoCs that are powerful enough to run Photoshop and Excel, there will be no need for Windows RT then.
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Agreed.
I had a Surface RT for one month. Not only did it suck - couldn't do much on it, the touch screen died, so I sent it back and upgraded to a surface pro which has been much better on the whole.
Ubuntu
And what about Ubuntu on tablets? Anyone tried it?
Ubuntu touch dual boot
Would be really interested in Ubuntu touch dual boot for the tf701t if anyone is up for it.
sbdags said:
Agreed.
I had a Surface RT for one month. Not only did it suck - couldn't do much on it, the touch screen died, so I sent it back and upgraded to a surface pro which has been much better on the whole.
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You still have and use the surface pro?
Snah001 said:
You still have and use the surface pro?
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Nope sold it and bought a proper laptop
You won't find a windows ROM on the TF701 but did you hear what ASUS is going to release at the end of March? The Transformer Book Duet TD300. Its a dual boot Android/Windows tablet. Looks sick.
Transformer Book Duet TD300 specs.
Dual-OS - Windows 8.1 Standard / Android 4.2.2
13.3-inch Full HD IPS multi-touch display
Up to Intel® Core™ i7 processor
4GB DDR3L 1600 RAM
Up to 128GB SSD in Tablet
Up to 1TB HDD in Dock
38WHr battery, estimated battery life around 5 hours in Windows 8.1 and 6 hours in Android 4.2.2.
802.11ac Wi-Fi; Bluetooth 4.0 + EDR
Tablet ports: Micro SD card, Headphone jack, DC jack
Keyboard dock ports: 1 x USB 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0, 10/100Mbit/s LAN, HDMI 1.4, audio combo jack, DC jack
http://www.asus.com/us/News/hnzqzGZ8TfSnrQTo
a few sites listed this as going to cost 599. Not a bad price for those specs. I would return my tf701 right now for that if it came out already. But based on those "Up to..." parts in the specs I bet there will be different variations. i7 with 128 gb SSD and 1 TB HD will most likely be over 1,000.
Alternate OS
Hi.
I'm sorry, my English is very bad because I'm from Ukraine.
I will buy this tablet, but I want to have Ubuntu. Tablet+Android = Tablet, Tablet+Dock+Ubuntu = Laptop, I think. I like Linux.
Here is guide about porting Ubuntu, but I need source code.
Here is only kernel's code, as I understand it. Is Asus submit full source code, or no?
Thank you.
Linux4Tegra
Do you allready saw this?
https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra-rel-17
Linux For Tegra
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Do you allready saw this?
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That's really interesting! Perhaps, would can made multiboot - Android and Ubuntu (or other distro). But, I think, also need drivers for Wi-Fi, USB, and other peripheral devices.
maybe you shoud look at this threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387133
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2026919
Linux for Tegra
Thank you.
I think, your links will help me. In all, different between tf700 and tf701 isn't big. I discuss this problem in one Russian forum too. If I'll can make dual-boot at this tablet, I surely write here.
We have console quality gaming in a 10 inch tablet. How low can you go as far as optimization. No limit. Compile it yourself. Or jam some disease like windows rt in. Make a Apple Android out of it. No thanks.
You can use debian kit. Not sure how it is with UI.
Well if i had the tf701t we could be having some linux fun, but i went the asus t100 route. There really should be very little to have to do to get a multiboot. All dual boot scripts from the tf700 should work (just maybe need partitions modified) The kernel shouldn't need really any modification to boot, Its all really in the ramdisk.