I want to root my device.
But I'm unable to decide that I should root via supersu or Magisk.
I've read that magisk provide systemless root, but what the advanteges of systemless root/magisk?
Can someone help me that what's the use/advantage of Magisk?
is it much stable then supersu?
I don't want to risk my device as I'm app developer
akash.galaxy07 said:
I want to root my device.
But I'm unable to decide that I should root via supersu or Magisk.
I've read that magisk provide systemless root, but what the advanteges of systemless root/magisk?
Can someone help me that what's the use/advantage of Magisk?
is it much stable then supersu?
I don't want to risk my device as I'm app developer
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If you are an app developer, use Magisk. Magisk allows you to pass google's safety tests (Safetynet) - which you should know about if you develop apps! but basically, google will not think your device is compromised is you use Magisk, but WILL think your device is compromised if you use SuperSU - even if SuperSU is installed in Systemless mode. Don't forget to enable magisk hide in the Magisk Manager app to make sure this works though.
Some app developers will check safetynet upon launching their app to see if the device is compromised, and if it is, either restrict features, or deny access entirely. A good example of this is Banking apps, though they usually use their own root detection - but that can be hidden with Magisk Hide. - No bank wants their app being used on a compromised device, where a virus with root access could collect information. The more you know
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If you are an app developer, use Magisk. Magisk allows you to pass google's safety tests (Safetynet) - which you should know about if you develop apps! but basically, google will not think your device is compromised is you use Magisk, but WILL think your device is compromised if you use SuperSU - even if SuperSU is installed in Systemless mode. Don't forget to enable magisk hide in the Magisk Manager app to make sure this works though.
Some app developers will check safetynet upon launching their app to see if the device is compromised, and if it is, either restrict features, or deny access entirely. A good example of this is Banking apps, though they usually use their own root detection - but that can be hidden with Magisk Hide. - No bank wants their app being used on a compromised device, where a virus with root access could collect information. The more you know
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Thanks bro, and, is it stable too? I mean, are there any risks involved?
akash.galaxy07 said:
Thanks bro, and, is it stable too? I mean, are there any risks involved?
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There are risks with any kind of root on your phone, as an app developer, you should know that.
You could get a virus that takes advantage of root to encrypt all of your files.
Again, you should know this if you are an app developer, there is a difference between creating a single app, and developing applications as a whole!
Magisk is very stable though, more so on OxygenOS but it will be pretty stable with LineageOS too! I have had no problems whatsoever! I have been using android pay and all my root apps without my phone ever crashing! And if you are careful, you won't get a virus (root will not cause a virus, user stupidity gets virus') - enjoy
I'd like to add the main advantage to why I use Magisk.
All my system modifications (build.prop changes, debloating, changed/removed ui audio, etc) are still there after a system update. Even if I have to do a clean install with a wipe, all it takes is flashing a couple of extra zips and everything is right back were I want it.
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I'd like to add the main advantage to why I use Magisk.
All my system modifications (build.prop changes, debloating, changed/removed ui audio, etc) are still there after a system update. Even if I have to do a clean install with a wipe, all it takes is flashing a couple of extra zips and everything is right back were I want it.
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Can you please link me to Magisk installation thread for Oneplus 3t. I can't find any on XDA. I found one thread that belongs to Magisk dev but it is very confusing with installing all the systemless SuperSU and such.
vipivj said:
Can you please link me to Magisk installation thread for Oneplus 3t. I can't find any on XDA. I found one thread that belongs to Magisk dev but it is very confusing with installing all the systemless SuperSU and such.
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There's no specific 3T thread that I know of... It's all there in the Magisk forums. It's not as complicated as it might seem.
If you're unrooted, just flash the Magisk zip in TWRP. Done!
If you have systemless SuperSU installed and want to keep it, just flash the Magisk zip in TWRP. Done!
If you have systemless SuperSU installed and want to switch to MagiskSU, you'll need to first remove SuperSU. Use the full unroot option in the SuperSU app and say yes when asked if you want to restore the boot image backup. After that, flash the Magisk zip in TWRP. Done!
If you have any other root installed, just flash the Magisk zip in TWRP and the installation script will do it's best to remove it and install MagiskSU instead. Done!
Edit: There might be variations on the above, depending on if you're using stock ROM or not. Take a look at the link in my signature if you run into problems. I've tried to collect as much info, tips and tricks as possible in one place.
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There's no specific 3T thread that I know of... It's all there in the Magisk forums. It's not as complicated as it might seem.
If you're unrooted, just flash the Magisk zip in TWRP. Done!
If you have systemless SuperSU installed and want to keep it, just flash the Magisk zip in TWRP. Done!
If you have systemless SuperSU installed and want to switch to MagiskSU, you'll need to first remove SuperSU. Use the full unroot option in the SuperSU app and say yes when asked if you want to restore the boot image backup. After that, flash the Magisk zip in TWRP. Done!
If you have any other root installed, just flash the Magisk zip in TWRP and the installation script will do it's best to remove it and install MagiskSU instead. Done!
Edit: There might be variations on the above, depending on if you're using stock ROM or not. Take a look at the link in my signature if you run into problems. I've tried to collect as much info, tips and tricks as possible in one place.
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Thanks, it is clear now. Is it possible to 100% pass safety net with Magisk? I read somewhere that it's a hit and miss.
Apart from the Magisk modules what's the benefit of rooting with Magisk instead of superSU? I saw many people still support superSU than Magisk, does it mean that Magisk has some flows or bugs?
vipivj said:
Thanks, it is clear now. Is it possible to 100% pass safety net with Magisk? I read somewhere that it's a hit and miss.
Apart from the Magisk modules what's the benefit of rooting with Magisk instead of superSU? I saw many people still support superSU than Magisk, does it mean that Magisk has some flows or bugs?
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I've had no issues passing SafetyNet on my OP3T. It depends on what ROM you're using and if you have any other modifications that Magisk Hide can't hide. Apart from Magisk Hide and systemless modifications Magisk is also open source, if you value that kind of stuff...
There might be apps out there that use specific SuperSU stuff and won't work fully with MagiskSU. I haven't had any issues though (apart from a couple of workarounds, like for Tasker - again, see my signature) and many app developers are starting to make their apps work with MagiskSU as well. Most work out of the box though.
MagiskHide
You can use apps like Android Pay or Snapchat on a rooted device
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I've had no issues passing SafetyNet on my OP3T. It depends on what ROM you're using and if you have any other modifications that Magisk Hide can't hide. Apart from Magisk Hide and systemless modifications Magisk is also open source, if you value that kind of stuff...
There might be apps out there that use specific SuperSU stuff and won't work fully with MagiskSU. I haven't had any issues though (apart from a couple of workarounds, like for Tasker - again, see my signature) and many app developers are starting to make their apps work with MagiskSU as well. Most work out of the box though.
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Another noob question, what is the difference between normal and systeless SuperSU?
Considering current known problems Magisk have , isn't it a good idea to use Magisk superSU combo and SuperSU hide?
vipivj said:
Another noob question, what is the difference between normal and systeless SuperSU?
Considering current known problems Magisk have , isn't it a good idea to use Magisk superSU combo and SuperSU hide?
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Systemless root doesn't alter /system... If you want a more in-depth explanation I'm sure your friend Google can explain it to you.
For OP3T on OxygenOS (I'm currently on 4.1.3) I've not experienced any issues with Magisk. I don't know what those "currently known problems" are that you're worried about...
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Systemless root doesn't alter /system... If you want a more in-depth explanation I'm sure your friend Google can explain it to you.
For OP3T on OxygenOS (I'm currently on 4.1.3) I've not experienced any issues with Magisk. I don't know what those "currently known problems" are that you're worried about...
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I meant those issues happens with Tasker etc. Thank you for the answers, you've been very helpful.
I started googling and reading in XDA as well but you know the doubts that comes along ?
vipivj said:
I meant those issues happens with Tasker etc. Thank you for the answers, you've been very helpful.
I started googling and reading in XDA as well but you know the doubts that comes along
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Ah... Ok. Those kind of issues are easy to work around and the next version of Tasker will have official MagiskSU support.
Use Magisk Manager
I also used Magisk Manager in my old device at it worked fine and as magisk allow you to root Android without effecting on system files I could also install root unsupported apps as well. So i think Magisk is the best solution for you.
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I haven't seen a thead posted about this so I figured I'd get some input from people that have used both or either of the 2 root options.
What do you prefer and why? What are the pros and cons?
I know SuperSU is very well known and I'm familiar with it from the Galaxy S phones. Magisk is fairly new, but from what I heard it works well with Nougat and the other nice thing is that magisk can be toggled.
I'm not sure if there is any benefit to that or not, but I'd like to hear some feedback.
I'm interested to know more about this as well, but this is what I read about it.
Yes, Magisk can be toggled, so you can use Android Pay when you need it and then get back to being rooted.
However, for some reason, my AdAway adblocker just wouldn't work with Magisk+phhSU. No idea why. Everything else root worked well. When I had to clean flash the official Nougat, I decided to stick to good'ol SuperSU. I don't need the toggle function and everything worked great since.
So I've used both and can say this. Magisk works on both SuperSU and phhSU, although the later offers a different functionality. The toggle feature is an older feature of Magisk as they now have a hide feature baked in. This is the same as SUHide for SuperSU. I have yet to get SUHide working on the 3t, but I have it working on a few other phones. SuperSU+SUHide is great if you only want to run Root on your phone and hide systemless root from applications without having to really toggle Root. From my experience (YMMV), toggling root breaks things more than hiding. The only reason I have found to run Magisk is if you want to run Xposed as well. Xposed works with SuperSU, but Magisk does a pretty good job of UI integration with some of the pieces.
DarqAnshin said:
So I've used both and can say this. Magisk works on both SuperSU and phhSU, although the later offers a different functionality. The toggle feature is an older feature of Magisk as they now have a hide feature baked in. This is the same as SUHide for SuperSU. I have yet to get SUHide working on the 3t, but I have it working on a few other phones. SuperSU+SUHide is great if you only want to run Root on your phone and hide systemless root from applications without having to really toggle Root. From my experience (YMMV), toggling root breaks things more than hiding. The only reason I have found to run Magisk is if you want to run Xposed as well. Xposed works with SuperSU, but Magisk does a pretty good job of UI integration with some of the pieces.
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Awesome, thanks for the input! That's definitely helpful. So you would recommend going with magisk? Would you say magisk works equally as well on all versions of OOS? 3.5.* and the new 4.*+ (nougat) version?
m0d hipp¥ said:
Awesome, thanks for the input! That's definitely helpful. So you would recommend going with magisk? Would you say magisk works equally as well on all versions of OOS? 3.5.* and the new 4.*+ (nougat) version?
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Keep in mind, your mileage may very and these are only my opinions. With that said I will say this:
I've only had my OnePlus 3t for about 3 weeks, so I only really used it on the latest version of OOS 3.5. It seems to work fine on 4.*, however, it did take me a few extra steps and sideload.
I honestly would go with SuperSU / SUhide if I could get it to work on 3T correctly like it does on my other devices. Right now I have this weird forever and a day boot time with SUHide.
Magisk works almost as well in my experience and on the devices I do run xposed on runs even better in my opinion. The new Magisk doesn't turn root off but does mask root from certain apps such as android pay. The interface, in my opinion, has gotten better over the iterations. Magisk also does allow you to flash from the direct input, which depending on your skill can help out greatly.
I would say this. If you require
Xposed
UI
live updates of actual software similar to TWRP's new loader
ability to flash from app
Use Magisk
If you like simplicity and raw power go with SuperSU. I did try the SUHide Gui but found Magisk's version much easier and reliable.
Thanks again! That's super helpful!
Guys, Im running Tugapower and I cannot root the rom. Any of you know how to fix it? I run the zip file to root and I start to phone and looks that works but after couple of minuts is not rooted anymore. Anyone else?
Has anybody used the the latest version of superuser with oos 4.0?
That's the SR2 2.79 version. The one before turned off sims and a reflash of 4.0 sorted out.
And the info on Magisk has been informative. Thanks!
As someone who has used phhSu and SuperSU (I've also paid for SuperSU Pro) I find either do the job and that SuperSU is good for getting a ROM going while I prefer to then re-root with phhSU after I have my ROM set up for daily use, although the only annoying thing with phhSU is that TB detects the su binary as being a non-SuperSU one so it pops up an extra warning.
Either is fine, just pick the one you like better I guess.
How did you guys flash a systemless root without triggering DM-Verity?
From my understanding, we flash superSU after flashing TWRP and allowing modifications, because superSU disables/bypasses DM-Verity
Am I missing something here?
Freyelis said:
How did you guys flash a systemless root without triggering DM-Verity?
From my understanding, we flash superSU after flashing TWRP and allowing modifications, because superSU disables/bypasses DM-Verity
Am I missing something here?
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With SuperSU 2.79 you don't need no-verity patch.
m0d hipp¥ said:
I haven't seen a thead posted about this so I figured I'd get some input from people that have used both or either of the 2 root options.
What do you prefer and why? What are the pros and cons?
I know SuperSU is very well known and I'm familiar with it from the Galaxy S phones. Magisk is fairly new, but from what I heard it works well with Nougat and the other nice thing is that magisk can be toggled.
I'm not sure if there is any benefit to that or not, but I'd like to hear some feedback.
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Actually Magisk doesn't give root but the modded version of Phh's Superuser does.
One of the main difference is that Phh's Superuser (and Magisk) are open source. Once Chainfire will leave his SuperSU project you will have to fully trust CCMT.
A few days ago I posted a question about not being able to install any Xposed modules here, so far no one answered: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/xposed-framework-installed-running-t3567230
I thought this problem had something to do with the modules specifically, but it turns out that on my phone, for whatever reason, installing the framework subsequently prevents ALL apps from installing, even those from Google Play itself, displaying a "-504" error.
I see people have asked this question before, but are also not getting answers: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/install-apps-installing-framework-t3430922
Please, if anyone has any idea of why this can be and how to fix it, let me know. Any help will be infinitely appreciated!
What phone and ROM are you using?
One thing you could try is to install systemless Xposed through Magisk. Then use MagiskHide to hide both root and Xposed from all Google apps and potential sources of conflict. If it's a software limitation/conflict, this may be a workaround.
Keep in mind that you will have to root your phone with Magisk rather than SuperSU or any other form of root.
Anova's Origin said:
What phone and ROM are you using?
One thing you could try is to install systemless Xposed through Magisk. Then use MagiskHide to hide both root and Xposed from all Google apps and potential sources of conflict. If it's a software limitation/conflict, this may be a workaround.
Keep in mind that you will have to root your phone with Magisk rather than SuperSU or any other form of root.
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Hey, thank you for your answer!
I am using a Sony Xperia M4 Aqua E2306, rom is 26.1.A.1.112 Latin America Generic. It is rooted and with TWRP installed accroding to this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/m4-aqua/general/root-e2306-m4-aqua-guide-t3270521
I also have a locked bootloader, and it cannot be unlocked, so unfortunately that shuts the door on most rooting options.
I never heard of Magisk before, but from what I'm seeing, it looks it TWRP is required to get root with Magisk, but some kind of root is already required on my phone in order to get TWRP. So I'm not sure how to go about this.
If your phone is already rooted, then you can download Magisk Manager application and have it installed it's necessary frameworks through the app itself. You won't be able to use Magisk's root, but you'll still be able to install systemless Xposed and hide it from other apps.
Edit: Ignore all of that actually, I just realized that magisk requires boot image modifications so you have to have an unlocked bootloader to use it.
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If your phone is already rooted, then you can download Magisk Manager application and have it installed it's necessary frameworks through the app itself. You won't be able to use Magisk's root, but you'll still be able to install systemless Xposed and hide it from other apps.
Edit: Ignore all of that actually, I just realized that magisk requires boot image modifications so you have to have an unlocked bootloader to use it.
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Oh well, thanks anyway. I might try it anyways, maybe it will work, you never know. Don't have much to lose at this point
Anova's Origin said:
What phone and ROM are you using?
One thing you could try is to install systemless Xposed through Magisk. Then use MagiskHide to hide both root and Xposed from all Google apps and potential sources of conflict. If it's a software limitation/conflict, this may be a workaround.
Keep in mind that you will have to root your phone with Magisk rather than SuperSU or any other form of root.
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FIY Magisk cannot hide Xposed...
I also facing these problem on my rooted Asus zenfone 2 (ze550ml 2gb ram version, Stock ROM, bootloader unlocked) and Asus Zenpad C 7 (p01y, stock rom, bootloader unlocked). The xposed firmware (version 86) is successfully install but can't install any apps from play store and using apk...
I really hope that dev team can solve it.....
Sorry for any grammatical mistakes....
The only way is to flash the firmware
I'm getting the same problem on my LG G4 with v88.2 of Xposed :/
I don't Know if this is too late,but I also have this problem. But there is a work around, go into the xposed installer and turn the switch off so its disabled on the next boot. rebot the device and exposed and its modules are disabled, allowing you to install apps from play store and downloaded .apk files... it would still be nice to install applications while its still on.
Sent from my LG-K550 using XDA Labs
I had this issue on my LGG3. This happens when you have Lucky Patcher enabled in your xposed modules. Disabling it (Lucky Patcher) should solve the problem.
Title says it all. Im currently using using SuperSU so looking for Systemless root and looking for Xposed to work as well.
Remove SuperSU, flash Magisk. That's basically it... If you have issues on the way there's lots of info in the support read and some things to try here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-magisk-hide-troubleshooting-tips-t3561828
Didgeridoohan said:
Remove SuperSU, flash Magisk. That's basically it... If you have issues on the way there's lots of info in the support read and some things to try here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-magisk-hide-troubleshooting-tips-t3561828
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Do I remove SuperSU thru it's manager and then flash Magisk?
riahc3 said:
Do I remove SuperSU thru it's manager and then flash Magisk?
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Yes, choosing the full unroot option. It is also good to have the unsu zip by osm0sis handy, but the full unroot option should work.
jhedfors said:
Yes, choosing the full unroot option. It is also good to have the unsu zip by osm0sis handy, but the full unroot option should work.
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This just flash Magisk? No Xposed issues?
riahc3 said:
This just flash Magisk? No Xposed issues?
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I don't use Xposed, as it does not work on Nougat. You will need to install the Xposed module in the Magisk Downloads tab.
jhedfors said:
I don't use Xposed, as it does not work on Nougat. You will need to install the Xposed module in the Magisk Downloads tab.
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Im on 6.0 so I do and its important.
Well, here goes nothing I guess....
When SuperSU asked if I wanted to recover the boot image (I think it was that) I said no.
Issues with that?
Checking patch status
SuperSU patched boot detected!
Adding auto patch scirpt for supersu
SuperSU image mount failed...
Will still try to complete installation
Device still does boot...which I guess is still a good sign.
Says Ive lost root....
Magisk does say it is installed.
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Checking patch status
SuperSU patched boot detected!
Adding auto patch scirpt for supersu
SuperSU image mount failed...
Will still try to complete installation
Device still does boot...which I guess is still a good sign.
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Reflashed the SuperSU zip.....Opening Magisk Manager.....its currently stuck opening it. Only the logo with the background appears.
Android says "Magisk Manager is not responding".
OK! Wow, that took a while lol....
Latest version of Magisk installed....
Properly rooted
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Checking SafetlyNet Failed: CTS Profile Mismatch
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Reflashed the SuperSU zip.....Opening Magisk Manager.....its currently stuck opening it. Only the logo with the background appears.
Android says "Magisk Manager is not responding".
OK! Wow, that took a while lol....
Latest version of Magisk installed....
Properly rooted
279:SUPERSU
Checking SafetlyNet Failed: CTS Profile Mismatch
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CTS profile mismatch will happen if you're using SuperSU.
The one thing that went wrong was you saying no to restoring the boot image backup. If you want to use MagiskSU you'll need to flash it over a boot image that doesn't have the SuperSU patches.
Didgeridoohan said:
CTS profile mismatch will happen if you're using SuperSU.
The one thing that went wrong was you saying no to restoring the boot image backup. If you want to use MagiskSU you'll need to flash it over a boot image that doesn't have the SuperSU patches.
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At this point, is there is a way to fix it?
I have gotten also gotten systemless Xposed installed
riahc3 said:
At this point, is there is a way to fix it?
I have gotten also gotten systemless Xposed installed
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If you're happy with your current setup, leave it be. If you need to pass SafetyNet (you'll need to disable Xposed for that) you'll have to start over.
Didgeridoohan said:
If you're happy with your current setup, leave it be. If you need to pass SafetyNet (you'll need to disable Xposed for that) you'll have to start over.
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Doesnt systemless Xposed pass SafetyNet?
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Doesnt systemless Xposed pass SafetyNet?
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No.
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No.
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Oh! My mistake then
I could careless about SafetyCheck as I need Xposed modules.
Besides, that, then Magisk is working? That was pretty simple. Thank you for your help.
Reading thru your thread, I cant really see what SafetyCheck implies. Does it just affect that stupid Pokemon crap? I imagine it affects more things like banks but I dont think mines will depend on that.
riahc3 said:
Oh! My mistake then
I could careless about SafetyCheck as I need Xposed modules.
Besides, that, then Magisk is working? That was pretty simple. Thank you for your help.
Reading thru your thread, I cant really see what SafetyCheck implies. Does it just affect that stupid Pokemon crap? I imagine it affects more things like banks but I dont think mines will depend on that.
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Magisk works fine with SuperSU. It's if you'd ever want to hide root from some process or app that you might have some trouble, since Magisk Hide is developed with MagiskSU in mind.
There are some banking apps, Android Pay, Pokemon Go other apps that utilise SafetyNet. I do believe that more and more apps will use in the future and the cat and mouse game of hiding root is gonna continue...
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Im on 6.0 so I do and its important.
Well, here goes nothing I guess....
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I am also on android 6.0.1 and need to install magisk to work with safetynet to install games like pokemon , supermario run etc . Why do you say Xposed is required? also, did full unroot from within superSU app worked for you or you flashed UnSu for that?
Thanks
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I am also on android 6.0.1 and need to install magisk to work with safetynet to install games like pokemon , supermario run etc . Why do you say Xposed is required? also, did full unroot from within superSU app worked for you or you flashed UnSu for that?
Thanks
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I use Xposed modules in my daily life and cannot afford to be without them.
Hi XDA!
I need some help with lineageos on here. I'm a pretty seasoned flashaholic and generally know what I'm doing however this is stumping me.
Anytime I install lineageos + magisk, I have no root. All flashing goes to plan, however when I open magisk manager I get one of 2 things:
Either, I'm rooted with magisk installed, or I'm not rooted with magisk installed.
It seems to depend on which root app gains root first - for example, if magisk says I'm rooted (e.g it'd the first app to gain root) then any other app I open afterwards will tell me I'm not rooted, including root checkers. If I open a root checker first, it will say I'm rooted but then magisk will say after that I'm not, but magisk is installed, and all root apps from then on will fail. I'm really not sure what the problem is, and I have done clean installs, dirty flashes etc. All I have enabled is magisk hide and its busybox toggle. I've tried turning off it's busybox but no luck.
It gets worse if I enable developer options, Even if I don't touch any root settings in there (I like to disable Bluetooth absolute volume). If I do this, I loose root completely, but it still says magisk is installed. I'm not using SuperSU as I want to pass safetynet, and there are no su files from lineageos in /system/bin or xbin.
Obviously doesn't happen with OOS and all works fine.
Firmware is correct for LOS etc
If anyone can help I would appreciate it
Norman
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Do you have Magisk built-in busybox enabled? If so, try disabling it. From the Magisk release thread:
FAQ:
Q: I am losing root randomly!
A: In some custom roms (known: LineageOS), enabling the Magisk busybox will make root unstable
If you experience root loss issue, disable busybox in MagiskManager
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Do you have Magisk built-in busybox enabled? If so, try disabling it. From the Magisk release thread:
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Thanks for the answer, but you didn't read all i put. It happens with or without busybox enabled. It happens more when i have developer options enabled so i can disable absolute bluetooth volume.
Norman
manor7777 said:
Thanks for the answer, but you didn't read all i put. It happens with or without busybox enabled. It happens more when i have developer options enabled so i can disable absolute bluetooth volume.
Norman
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Oh crap... I did miss that part... Sorry about that. Gonna blame a long week and tired eyes.
No idea then, other than it being a LineageOS issue (I really dislike that ROM).
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Oh crap... I did miss that part... Sorry about that. Gonna blame a long week and tired eyes.
No idea then, other than it being a LineageOS issue (I really dislike that ROM).
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I preferred CM but its discontinued and replaced by LOS. I use tidal for music and whilst OOS Is good, its buffer city for tidal lostless and I can't get aptx on OOS.. I'm working on it now I'll report Here if I fix it
The new Magisk is here and with it some major changes. One of the most important is the removal of support for "MagiskHide". There are many advanced users who have figured this all out already and few (maybe more) like me who are just kind of lost not knowing what should be exactly done to be able to update and be able to use Magisk as they were, before the update.
I was hoping that a kind soul would put up an easy step by step guide to help these users and at the same time it will avoid a lot of repetitive questions on the main thread. I personally spent a long time reading many pages and was not able to fully understand what should be done.
In my case all I want to achieve is to update and be able to hide Magisk like it was in the previous version. Should I start by un-hiding it first before doing the update?
(what and how and from where) should I add something that will replace the hiding function? Viola! these are the kind of simple questions that will help some of us get going
I hope that someone will bring his precious help
Yeah I unfortunately did my upgrade and fought with the whole process for 6 hours straight (lol) and I still don't know what I did exactly to even begin to write any instructions - other than 6 hours straight of reading and trying and hoping .....
Not sure if you have been able to refer to this which helped me.... But, I also have an very basic understanding of how my device (OnePlus 7T) works with Magisk... Hope this helps. May be see if your specific device has the instructions already posted in the device specific forum here?
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The Magic Mask for Android
topjohnwu.github.io
I've not used the Magisk hide cause I haven't needed it - BUT, it's still available in the latest Magisk Manager (24.1) in the Magisk Manager settings. I'm only using the systemless hosts module (included in Magisk manager settings) for Adaway, and the universal safety net fix to get Google Play store to say my device is certified.
But I don't know what device you have nor do I know the specific ROM you are using.
Sounds like you have root already so I'm thinking that's the worst of this behind you if you've already done that much yourself. Sounds like it's a basic case of update the Magisk Manager app from itself then determine the method appropriate for root to update which could be through the Manager app or like I chose to use the boot IMG then patch that then install since my device has no working TWRP. That, and once I updated the manager app and panicked so I uninstalled it to try and downgrade to v23 .... Good luck and may be just don't update just yet if there is no specific need to at this time. Take your time and read and proceed when comfortable.
Please:
Start with your preferred method of backing up everything first.
Also, may be consider if it's necessary to update and why??? I'm on stock Andriod 11 and this Magisk update make me think it's intended to be more for those on Android 12 - but I could also assume wrongly.
[Discussion] Magisk - The Age of Zygisk.
This is a discussion and help thread for the newer versions of Magisk. The main goal of this thread is to help users migrate to Magisk v24+ SafetyNet Basic integrity Pass CTS profile match Pass Play Protect certification Device is certified...
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That's the thread I'm reading now...
Thanks a lot for your reply wugga3. I also on my side found two very helpful posts. They explain the basics (just to get started) and to make the update . I hope with the information gathered I will be able to do the update without messing things up!
[Discussion] Google Pay Magisk Discussion Thread
This thread is inspired by the PoGo Magisk discussion thread. It's meant to keep the clutter of "Google Pay doesn't work" posts out of the main Magisk threads. Please use this to discuss issues with Google Pay and possible solutions. There's a...
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[Discussion] Magisk - The Age of Zygisk.
This is a discussion and help thread for the newer versions of Magisk. The main goal of this thread is to help users migrate to Magisk v24+ SafetyNet Basic integrity Pass CTS profile match Pass Play Protect certification Device is certified...
forum.xda-developers.com
Good and good luck...
One problem and probably the only problem I really had was self inflicted for not following the instructions properly and that was to uninstall any Magisk modules first or at that the appropriate step.
Other than that... still don't know your device or rom etc. Your device specific or rom specific forums may be able to provide you with much better assistance from members that have the same rom/device as you.
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Good and good luck...
One problem and probably the only problem I really had was self inflicted for not following the instructions properly and that was to uninstall any Magisk modules first or at that the appropriate step.
Other than that... still don't know your device or rom etc. Your device specific or rom specific forums may be able to provide you with much better assistance from members that have the same rom/device as youI
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I am using LineageOS 18.1 Android 11 for Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and I have twrp as recovery. Magisk 2.30 is already installed and device is rooted. I have no modules installed and in Magisk settings I have only MagiskHide enabled. All other settings are set to default. On Samsung Note3 forum there is no talk about this (understandable as the device is very old).
Ok great and is there any discussion for lineage 18.1 and root/update?
Since it's lineage 18 and based on Andriod 11 - I have to wonder if there is even the need to update Magisk as my limited understanding is that the Magisk update is aimed at Andriod 12? Other than that... I should expect from my prior understandings of Samsung that nothing much has changed with respect to root and updates of Magisk. Not much help but hopefully enough. May be best to wait until for now and usually I do also wait until all the facts are in and the bugs are sorted out (if any...) before I update if unnecessary.
Thanks wugga3,
I disabled "Check for updates" in Magisk app and decided to keep the older 2.30 version for now. Everything is working fine and so there is no reason to fix something which is not broken. The only reason I thought That I should update was a real advantage over the older version or a security weakness being fixed in the new one.
I am even seeing some people asking for help on how to downgrade! Anyway as you said wisely, it;s not after all a bad idea to wait a little to see how things work out for those who have upgraded and have new issues fixed before taking the jump.
Moving from 23.0 to 24.1 is straightforward
1. Update app
2. Update boot (Magisk) to 24.1, reboot
3. Enable Zygisk, reboot
4. Enforce Deny List, reboot
5. Install module USNF, reboot
6. Configure Deny List. Don't worry about Play Service because USNF will take care of it. Add any app detected root into it, and reboot every time it's updated
7. Install Fox Module manager and pick module you want
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Moving from 23.0 to 24.1 is straightforward
1. Update app
2. Update boot to 24.1, reboot
3. Enable Zygisk, reboot
4. Enforce Deny List, reboot
5. Install module USNF, reboot
6. Configure Deny List. Don't worry about Play Service because USNF will take care of it. Add any app detected root into it, and reboot every time it's updated
7. Install Fox Module manager and pick module you want
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Thanks a lot for your post mingkee,
I am sure many like me will be happy and appreciate reading this instead of having to go through many pages and still not be totally sure what to do
Allow me to just ask one question as I did not understand the second option of your instruction:
I update Magisk from the application itself. Once updated what do you mean by update boot to 24.1? This is to be done in Magisk itself?
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Thanks a lot for your post mingkee,
I am sure many like me will be happy and appreciate reading this instead of having to go through many pages and still not be totally sure what to do
Allow me to just ask one question as I did not understand the second option of your instruction:
I update Magisk from the application itself. Once updated what do you mean by update boot to 24.1? This is to be done in Magisk itself?
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After updated app to 24.1, you will see another update on top of the app (Magisk). Direct install would be the simplest method
mingkee said:
Moving from 23.0 to 24.1 is straightforward
1. Update app
2. Update boot (Magisk) to 24.1, reboot
3. Enable Zygisk, reboot
4. Enforce Deny List, reboot
5. Install module USNF, reboot
6. Configure Deny List. Don't worry about Play Service because USNF will take care of it. Add any app detected root into it, and reboot every time it's updated
7. Install Fox Module manager and pick module you want
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this should be pinned somewhere, very simple and worked fine on my Poco F3 using miui.eu & android 11
thanks a lot