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Unblock / Defrost - Gemini App Manager

I am unable to unblock/Defrost the apps that I have frozen using Gemini App Manager. Does anyone know how to do it?

JayMurda said:
I am unable to unblock/Defrost the apps that I have frozen using Gemini App Manager. Does anyone know how to do it?
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Use Titanium Backup's Power Defrost option (in the Batch Menu). Only thing is it's in the Pro version.
Other users on XDA here have successfully unfrozen by backing up the app, uninstalling, resetting phone and reinstalling app.
I think System Tuner or App Quarantine may also unfreeze, haven't tried it myself cos Power Defrost worked for me.

Question for OTA

Am I able to upgrade to Lollipop, when it is released, if I freeze apps such as spotlight, hangout, Google+...
I am currently on Stock 4.4.4, rooted, stock kernel and recovery.
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kenosis said:
Am I able to upgrade to Lollipop, when it is released, if I freeze apps such as spotlight, hangout, Google+...
I am currently on Stock 4.4.4, rooted, stock kernel and recovery.
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Yes.
Freezing is just a method of renaming a system app. Unfreezing ALL of them too.
Being unlocked or safe strapped I always backed up my virgin system before making any modds so an update would go with just flashing stock recovery. Hiding root is needed sometimes too.

Thanks for your answer. I will just unfreeze freezed apps once 5.0 is available.
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kenosis said:
Am I able to upgrade to Lollipop, when it is released, if I freeze apps such as spotlight, hangout, Google+...
I am currently on Stock 4.4.4, rooted, stock kernel and recovery.
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It depends on how you freeze them.
Every OTA so far has included a pre-flash validation check for the phone. It scans the phone for particular files and parts, for their existence and to make sure their checksum or SHA hash the expected versions BEFORE the OTA will install. Any method that renames, deletes, or otherwise modifies the APK and/or ODEX file for stock apps can cause an OTA install to fail.
If you use the phone's built in App Manager (Settings -> Apps -> open the entry for the app you want, then hit DISABLE, or Uninstall Updates then Disable), you are fine.
If you use something like Titanium Backup to Freeze them, you will likely be ok, but keep in mind that when some past OTA's came out (think 4.2.2 and 4.4), using Titanium to freeze apps did cause the OTA to fail for some people.
Using a root capable file explorer to manually rename, delete, or otherwise modify the APK and/or ODEX file can also cause an OTA install to fail.
This is why you see so many say that "you need to be stock to take an OTA"
aviwdoowks said:
Yes.
Freezing is just a method of renaming a system app. Unfreezing ALL of them too.
Being unlocked or safe strapped I always backed up my virgin system before making any modds so an update would go with just flashing stock recovery. Hiding root is needed sometimes too.
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If you RENAME a system app that the OTA's Pre-flash validation steps look for, the OTA will fail. So any method of "freezing apps" that involves renaming the APK or ODEX files certainly can cause an OTA install to fail.
But of course, if the APK/ODEX you rename is NOT looked at during pre-flash validation, then the OTA will not fail.

Hi KidJoe, thanks for your explanation. I use Android Tuner and freeze apps such as spotlight, hangout, Google+, Live Wallpaper... I can unfreeze. Is it OK to do like that?
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KidJoe said:
It depends on how you freeze them.
Every OTA so far has included a pre-flash validation check for the phone. It scans the phone for particular files and parts, for their existence and to make sure their checksum or SHA hash the expected versions BEFORE the OTA will install. Any method that renames, deletes, or otherwise modifies the APK and/or ODEX file for stock apps can cause an OTA install to fail.
If you use the phone's built in App Manager (Settings -> Apps -> open the entry for the app you want, then hit DISABLE, or Uninstall Updates then Disable), you are fine.
If you use something like Titanium Backup to Freeze them, you will likely be ok, but keep in mind that when some past OTA's came out (think 4.2.2 and 4.4), using Titanium to freeze apps did cause the OTA to fail for some people.
Using a root capable file explorer to manually rename, delete, or otherwise modify the APK and/or ODEX file can also cause an OTA install to fail.
This is why you see so many say that "you need to be stock to take an OTA"
If you RENAME a system app that the OTA's Pre-flash validation steps look for, the OTA will fail. So any method of "freezing apps" that involves renaming the APK or ODEX files certainly can cause an OTA install to fail.
But of course, if the APK/ODEX you rename is NOT looked at during pre-flash validation, then the OTA will not fail.
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kenosis said:
Hi KidJoe, thanks for your explanation. I use Android Tuner and freeze apps such as spotlight, hangout, Google+, Live Wallpaper... I can unfreeze. Is it OK to do like that?
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I haven't used that app. Best thing to say is take an app that you know what the apk name is, use Android Tuner to freeze it, then use a root capable file explorer to look for the apk. If it's still named correctly and located in the original place on the phone, then you should be ok.

Cannot Remove bloatware on Metro 626s after MM update

I have my desire systemless rooted w/ twrp installed. I have tried several different ways of removing system apps but Everytime I restart EVERY Single app is back like they are an aggressive cancer that will not subdue to chemo. Is Anyone else experiencing this and if not please advise me on your method of removal. Thanks.
Also, Tidbit more info, when I attempt to flash ANY thing in TWRP, the phone stops the flash and IMMEDIATELY restarts into ROM.

i2andog said:
I have my desire systemless rooted w/ twrp installed. I have tried several different ways of removing system apps but Everytime I restart EVERY Single app is back like they are an aggressive cancer that will not subdue to chemo. Is Anyone else experiencing this and if not please advise me on your method of removal. Thanks.
Also, Tidbit more info, when I attempt to flash ANY thing in TWRP, the phone stops the flash and IMMEDIATELY restarts into ROM.
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Have you tried re flashing twrp ? You can use flashify or rashr from play store to flash the .IMG file
As far as system apps and bloat, I've also had issues removing them. When I use ROM toolbox pro's app manager, a lot of times the app will still be on the list of apps installed even after I've clicked uninstall. But usually the apps are gone once I reboot

I use /system/ app mover *root* from the play store. I covert the system apps to user apps and then uninstall them.
It also shows that in the latest update it might recognize sytemless root.

IsaacGuti said:
I use /system/ app mover *root* from the play store. I covert the system apps to user apps and then uninstall them.
It also shows that in the latest update it might recognize sytemless root.
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Why do you convert to user apps first? Could that be the reason why they aren't being removed? Due to some type of broken operation of an app that was meant to be system only?

talksickisil said:
Why do you convert to user apps first? Could that be the reason why they aren't being removed? Due to some type of broken operation of an app that was meant to be system only?
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I do that because I keep some of the apps and also because I haven't had any problems uninstalling apps that way. converting them to user apps also gives me the option to move them to the SD card.
I remember when I used "system app remover(root),"it would still show the app in the app drawer(even after reboot) and when I pressed on them they would say "unfortunately ...has stopped"

I used titanium backup to get rid of all the apps i didnt want,afterwords i went into TWRP and wiped the dalvik cache/ART cache and it rebuild upon first reboot,and all the apps i uninstalled were gone.try this method and let us know.

magisk app can't open

like the title above. My magisk app can't open, I update my magisk app, after that I reboot my Android device, and I try to open the magisk app and it doesn't work. Please help me

Same here. Also, instructions are to unhide app before updating. Unfortunately I didn't see a warning in the old Manager, and updated with it hidden. Is this the reason the new app won't run? How to fix?

Just uninstall the app and then install it again... The apk is available on Magisk's Github.

Looks like that worked. Many thanks.

Question How can i convert a user app to system app?

I rooted my phone and i am with stock rom but i have a new question.
How can i convert a user app to system app? I tried a magisk module but it gave me bootloops.
Mixplorer etc don't work and also i can't copy the apk to system app from orange fox recovery

manthes said:
I rooted my phone and i am with stock rom but i have a new question.
How can i convert a user app to system app? I tried a magisk module but it gave me bootloops.
Mixplorer etc don't work and also i can't copy the apk to system app from orange fox recovery
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yes you can, i recommend using lucky patcher

Titanium Backup can do it, but it has been (unfortunately) abandoned for a couple too many years.

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I tried systemizer but it didn't work.
Have you checked lucky patcher and systemizer with stock rom? And especially with the latest android 13?

manthes said:
I tried systemizer but it didn't work.
Have you checked lucky patcher and systemizer with stock rom? And especially with the latest android 13?
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Titanium Backup (root needed)​Version
8.4.0.2
Updated on
Nov 24, 2019 (YIKES!)
You will need the PRO version to get this, though:
[✔] Convert user apps <=> system apps

manthes said:
I tried systemizer but it didn't work.
Have you checked lucky patcher and systemizer with stock rom? And especially with the latest android 13?
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yes, i did, and it works

Systemizer doesn't work at all and lucky patcher after converting the app to system app it gave me bootloop.
I tried to copy the apk with orange fox to priv-app folder but it is also impossible