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PRIMARY QUESTION: I cannot seem to install any "ghost" KitKat or Lollipop ROM on my XT1058. Can anyone please help shed some light on this? I've spent around a combined 12+ hours searching, researching, and tinkering trying to figure this out, but no success. I typically receive a "com.android.systemui" error message or "Unfortunately, System UI has stopped" message. After I acknowledge the message, it pops up again in a second or two. I have to force a shutdown of the phone and recover via TWRP. I've detailed my history and attempts below.
On the CM website, it says something about how "ghost" is a unified OS for every Moto X, except AT&T, since it's not unlockable. With Sunshine, shouldn't I be able to install the "ghost" ROM? Or does it not matter? I hope this isn't a case of, "even though you have an unlocked bootloader, the 'ghost' ROM isn't intended for your version of the phone." If that's true, it looks like all development on the XT1058 has pretty much stopped.
Many thanks, XDA Community, for helping me understand all this!
Secondary Questions:
I recently tried using the feature, "fixing permission" in TWRP thinking it might help with the "ghost" installations. I started getting bootloops when trying to restore to previous ROMs. The only restore that worked was my true original stock backup; the other restore attempts on SlimKat and other stock instances failed. That worries me. While I have successfully restored my phone, does anyone know if I may have screwed up my phone for the long-term?
(Answered by KidJoe; thank you!) Since I unlocked my bootloader at 4.2.2, can I freely upgrade and downgrade stock OSs? i.e., Can I install AT&T's stock 4.4.4 and then downgrade to 4.4.2?
(Answered by KidJoe; thank you!) Why do so many people seem to care to downgrade their stock OS? While I'm sure some may not be happy with some changes that come with upgrades, what could possibly be so "upsetting" that people need to downgrade?
HISTORY
Phone: AT&T Moto X XT1058, non-developer edition
Android: 4.2.2 | No attempt has been made to upgrade the OS beyond 4.2.2
Used Sunshine to unlock the bootloader while still on 4.2.2
Recovery: Installed TWRP v2.8.1.0, and I use TWRP to backup and install old and new ROMs (I think it's version 2.8.3... I never downloaded a version 2.8.1, but that's what the screen says. I'm wondering if the authors just forgot to update the version number in the program.)
Successful ROM installs:
SlimKat build 7 Official, msm8960dt
Cyanogenmod 11 Snapshot M5 msm8960dt (2014-04-05)
Failed ROM installs:
Cyanogenmod 11 Snapshot M12 ghost (2014-11-15)
Cyanogenmod 11 Nightly ghost (2014-12-19)
LiquidSmooth KitKat v3.2 Nightly ghost (2014-10-31)
LiquidSmooth Lollipop v4.0 Nightly ghost (2014-12-20)
Other Notes:
GApps were always installed when available. I also tried not installing them.
cxwong1 said:
Many thanks, XDA Community, for helping me understand all this!
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Since I unlocked my bootloader at 4.2.2, can I freely upgrade and downgrade stock OSs? i.e., Can I install AT&T's stock 4.4.4 and then downgrade to 4.4.2?
Why do so many people seem to care to downgrade their stock OS? While I'm sure some may not be happy with some changes that come with upgrades, what could possibly be so "upsetting" that people need to downgrade?
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I will answer these two....
1. NO you can not. Once you have 4.4.2, 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 on your phone, do NOT attempt to downgrade, even if you have an unlocked bootloader... For more details see what I typed here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/4-4-4-downgrade-possibility-t2971847/post57563419 along with the other discussions in that SHORT thread.
2. The older root and write protection disable processes for a Moto X with a locked bootloader (like ATT and Verizon) rely on taking advantage of vulnerabilities in the 4.2.2 w/Camera update rom version, or the 4.4 rom. These processes walk you through downgrading your ROM to 4.2.2 w/Camera update and following a set of steps to upgrade which will keep root and disable write protection. NOTE: It was safe to downgrade from 4.4. to 4.2.2 w/Camera update when following the SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo processes. But that was the only time it was safe!!!!
KidJoe, thank you much!
Does anyone else have any idea about my "systemui" issue?
cxwong1 said:
KidJoe, thank you much!
Does anyone else have any idea about my "systemui" issue?
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Just got a Moto X 1st gen replacement from Motorola and getting same problem after unlocking/rooting. Have you found a fix for this? Or does anyone know how to fix? Spent all day working on this and its driving me nuts.
syckman said:
Just got a Moto X 1st gen replacement from Motorola and getting same problem after unlocking/rooting. Have you found a fix for this? Or does anyone know how to fix? Spent all day working on this and its driving me nuts.
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Hey! Nope, I haven't found the answer, unfortunately. I haven't really tried to upgrade my OS since.
cxwong1 said:
PRIMARY QUESTION: I cannot seem to install any "ghost" KitKat or Lollipop ROM on my XT1058. Can anyone please help shed some light on this?
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I bit the bullet yesterday and paid for the Sunshine bootloader unlock. After replacing the stock bootloader with TWRP and making a backup, I started looking into putting CyanogenMod onto it, as I had just updated a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 to KitKat (via CyanogenMod 11) last week and it wasn't right that my phone had an older Android build than my tablet. I ran into conflicting information here and elsewhere, but the bottom line:
I have CyanogenMod 11 running on my AT&T Moto X.
More specifically, it's this zipball (remove spaces in next line to bypass the forum's lame link blocking):
https :// download.cyanogenmod.org / get / jenkins / 90775 / cm-11-20141115-SNAPSHOT-M12-ghost.zip
I also tried the latest 12.1 nightly, but while it appears to boot up, it reboots almost as soon as you try to set it up.
One thing that seems to help: before loading any ROM (whether stock, CyanogenMod, or whatever), wipe the flash. I have the ROM and Google Apps files on a flashstick that gets connected through an OTG cable, so I just tell TWRP to wipe everything but OTG storage, restore the ROM, let it boot up, then go back to TWRP to install the Google apps.
(Good thing I had the stock ROM backed up...had to revert to it this morning to back up aCar and Stocard data so I could bring them into CM.)
Starting configuration for my phone: AT&T XT1058, stock 4.4 firmware, rooted with the usual means for doing so, bootloader locked until Sunshine worked its magic.
guys, can anyone knows how to revert to android 4.4.2 android 5.0.1 with? updated firmware bass headphones disappeared, this problem occurs not only at me. who are important sound in the headphones do not advise upgraded. ASUS disappointed by this update.
ME572C Lollipop 5.0.1? Where? Please share it with us. You can downgrade with MOFD_SDUPDATE.zip and recovery.
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ME572C Lollipop 5.0.1? Where? Please share it with us. You can downgrade with MOFD_SDUPDATE.zip and recovery.
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I tried to downgrade the firmware. but in the new android 5.0.1 bootloader and recovery, and this does not take recovery firmware based on Android 4.4.2. And here is the update on the official website for ME572C, but only TW version, WW firmware not yet available. http://www.asus.com/ru/supportonly/ASUS MeMO Pad (ME572C)/HelpDesk_Download/
Yeah
I installed this night.
Sound is fine.
Tested on Audio Out and Bluetooth, but unfortunately no root possibility yet.
It broke my auto screen rotation. Although this isn't Asus fault it's a bug in lollipop. Also been reported on nexus and moto.
However I don't like the new look and don't like the new notification system or the way quick settings now require two swipes. Quick should mean quick.
Also noticed more lag in starting apps.
Want to revert back to 4.4.2 too
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It broke my auto screen rotation. Although this isn't Asus fault it's a bug in lollipop. Also been reported on nexus and moto.
However I don't like the new look and don't like the new notification system or the way quick settings now require two swipes. Quick should mean quick.
Also noticed more lag in starting apps.
Want to revert back to 4.4.2 too
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downgrade do not advise to do, I wanted to do this service firmware (which use service centers to flash, free access to this firmware is not), but killed the tablet, it will not turn on and hung on the splash screen Intel Inside. I repeat: who is not updated to 5.0.1 do not advise to do it, a lot of bugs in the new firmware.
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downgrade do not advise to do, I wanted to do this service firmware (which use service centers to flash, free access to this firmware is not), but killed the tablet, it will not turn on and hung on the splash screen Intel Inside. I repeat: who is not updated to 5.0.1 do not advise to do it, a lot of bugs in the new firmware.
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Thats awful for you. Can't you get into any recovery anymore? Perhaps flash the 5.0.1. again?
I'm not going to try to downgrade but I wish I hadn't installed lollipop. I really like this tablet and everything worked perfectly. Now I have to rotate the screen manually. I cheked the sensors with a diagnostic tool and they are working fine. It's the software. It isn't known what triggers the bug so it could happen at any time or never. Nice work google.
Hopefully we'll have root and custom mods in the near future.
Armada17 said:
downgrade do not advise to do, I wanted to do this service firmware (which use service centers to flash, free access to this firmware is not), but killed the tablet, it will not turn on and hung on the splash screen Intel Inside. I repeat: who is not updated to 5.0.1 do not advise to do it, a lot of bugs in the new firmware.
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If you can boot back into the download screen, you can probably reflash the newest firmware.
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If you can boot back into the download screen, you can probably reflash the newest firmware.
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does not work, bootloader killed, dependent on Intel Inside logo.
Hi, i try at the moment downgrade from the me581cl. It looks good. You can look at my thread Root with downgrade for the intel developer tool.
The highest importent file is the ifwi.bin.
You can it flash with fastboot flash dnx .....
Has anyone found a way to do this? I foolishly manually upgraded my ME572CL (JP SKU) with the WW 5.0.1 firmware. Seemed OK at first but now noticing a lot of bugs which are making it quite unpleasant to use. Lollipop firmware didn't seem to add anything much to the experience anyway, so I would really like to downgrade back to 4.4.2 but MOFD_SDUPDATE fails.
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Has anyone found a way to do this? I foolishly manually upgraded my ME572CL (JP SKU) to the WW 5.0.1 firmware. Seemed OK at first but now noticing a lot of bugs which are making it quite unpleasant to use. Lollipop firmware didn't seem to add anything much to the experience anyway, so I would really like to downgrade back to 4.4.2 but MOFD_SDUPDATE fails.
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I got ME572C(JP sku) and tried almost same things. Android 5.0.1(WW) seems stable on my environment but root is required for my usage. Downgrading with MOFD_SDUPDATE method also failed and now watching TWRP/CWM forums in order to get revised intel atom platform supports for 5.01....
gmaxjp said:
I got ME572C(JP sku) and tried almost same things. Android 5.0.1(WW) seems stable on my environment but root is required for my usage. Downgrading with MOFD_SDUPDATE method also failed and now watching TWRP/CWM forums in order to get revised intel atom platform supports for 5.01....
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I did a factory reset and the WW 5.0.1 seems stable again now. Would still like to return to a rooted 4.4.2 if possible though.
Any progress on downgrading or rooting ME572C on lollipop? I do have droidboot.img available took out from 4.4 if that might help.
Myuboku said:
Any progress on downgrading or rooting ME572C on lollipop? I do have droidboot.img available took out from 4.4 if that might help.
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Thanks for interest that. But it seems that we have no ways to revert 5.0x upgrade to 4.4x with method such as reflash partition or something like that because of fastboot oem stuffs to unlock bootloader are completely changed.
The only thing I succeed was reflashing the same version of OTA image WW_V12.14.1.12 downloaded from ASUS site (stupidly I cleared partitions before I confirmed if oem unlock is still valid or not....so I tried this to unblrick my one..). I tried flash partitions with images extracted from older ROM and fastboot server said "Not able to downgrade to KK" or something like that.
Perhaps fastboot server checks version of current vs to be flashed and reject if the version of the software is OLDER THAN CURRENT. This perhaps shows we can inject some hacks into current image, but I have still no progress regarding this idea because I was newbie to IA architecture hacking....I'm guessing that reversing fastboot.img contents shows the way to next milestone....
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Thanks for interest that. But it seems that we have no ways to revert 5.0x upgrade to 4.4x with method such as reflash partition or something like that because of fastboot oem stuffs to unlock bootloader are completely changed.
The only thing I succeed was reflashing the same version of OTA image WW_V12.14.1.12 downloaded from ASUS site (stupidly I cleared partitions before I confirmed if oem unlock is still valid or not....so I tried this to unblrick my one..). I tried flash partitions with images extracted from older ROM and fastboot server said "Not able to downgrade to KK" or something like that.
Perhaps fastboot server checks version of current vs to be flashed and reject if the version of the software is OLDER THAN CURRENT. This perhaps shows we can inject some hacks into current image, but I have still no progress regarding this idea because I was newbie to IA architecture hacking....I'm guessing that reversing fastboot.img contents shows the way to next milestone....
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On one russian forum there is already a person who was able to downgrade to 4.4. Although, he flashed something from "CL" version, instead of "C" so the tablet was unusable, thats why he brought it to Asus service, they did a normal downgrade for him, but it took almost a month.
Myuboku said:
On one russian forum there is already a person who was able to downgrade to 4.4. Although, he flashed something from "CL" version, instead of "C" so the tablet was unusable, thats why he brought it to Asus service, they did a normal downgrade for him, but it took almost a month.
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Beside the changed bootloader & recovery i believe it is not possible because of the changed partition assignment on LP5.0.1. KK isnt compatible with that anymore i guess and as far as i can see the partition assignment is not renewed and rewritten within any of the prelollipop firmwares again.
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Beside the changed bootloader & recovery i believe it is not possible because of the changed partition assignment on LP5.0.1. KK isnt compatible with that anymore i guess and as far as i can see the partition assignment is not renewed and rewritten within any of the prelollipop firmwares again.
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Thus, Asus service has .raw service firmware, and they can downgrade to kitkat
Myuboku said:
Thus, Asus service has .raw service firmware, and they can downgrade to kitkat
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Ya, that might be true.
tycoo said:
Ya, that might be true.
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Also as i know, there is a person who has service firmwares. As he explained, when flashing service lollipop firmware, it somehow unlocks bootloader(i can be mistaken at this part), and makes it possible to install any android firmware.
Hi all-so I decided to flash back to stock since my 32GB Nexus was down to about 14GB from flashing ROMS and such.Everything seems to have gone smoothly however when I try the oem unlock command I am told that the device is already unlocked.I proceeded to root and then I tried to flash TWRP but I get permission denied.
Also,my Play Store just crashed when I try and type in an app to search for.
The question is-how do I know which factory image is right for my device?
There are a number of 5.1.1 images,I selected the one marked for all carriers except T-Mobile.Could I have selected the wrong image to be causing some of these problems?
Or should I just go ahead and jump up to 6.0.1-there is only 1 image for that release.
I would't think the image mattered that much but something is wrong here.
I got the phone last week from the Amazon sale and I activated it no problem on Verizon and flashed several ROMS no issue.
Advice is much appreciated.
I really don't understand why anyone would flash to an old version of a ROM. I appreciate that people have different tastes (e.g. don't like material design) or perceive different characteristics (e.g. better battery life) but in general each new ROM brings advantages, stability, security, improvements, so why stick with an old one when you can have new?
Me, I'd definitely go for a full clean install of MMB29K.
And if you insist on root, be aware of the issues with Marshmallow - you need a different kernel (Elementalx is popular) or alternatively flash TWRP and install Chainfire's SuperSU 2.62. I say 2.62 rather than 2.65 because there are numbers of people reporting that root doesn't work with 2.65, which isn't the case with 2.62, and from personal experience 2.62 works absolutely fine on my 6.0.1 N6.
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I really don't understand why anyone would flash to an old version of a ROM. I appreciate that people have different tastes (e.g. don't like material design) or perceive different characteristics (e.g. better battery life) but in general each new ROM brings advantages, stability, security, improvements, so why stick with an old one when you can have new?
Me, I'd definitely go for a full clean install of MMB29K.
And if you insist on root, be aware of the issues with Marshmallow - you need a different kernel (Elementalx is popular) or alternatively flash TWRP and install Chainfire's SuperSU 2.62. I say 2.62 rather than 2.65 because there are numbers of people reporting that root doesn't work with 2.65, which isn't the case with 2.62, and from personal experience 2.62 works absolutely fine on my 6.0.1 N6.
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Thanks for the detailed response. I was running 5.1 initially because that is what the phone booted with and I like full-featured ROMS like BlissPop. I guess I'll give 6.0.1 a whirl.It just seemed like it was too new to be rock solid. I had as many features on my old S3 running 4.4.2 as I have seen since then if not more actually. I am curious about Google Now On Tap however.
Hopefully this gets me fixed up.Cheers.
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Hi all-so I decided to flash back to stock since my 32GB Nexus was down to about .......
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It is possible that the issue is caused because you downgraded the bootloader by flashing 5.1.1.
Flash the complete latest stock 6.0.1 images.
Flashing 6.0.1 now. Both times the CMD window has showed me archive does not contain boot.sig and recovery.sig. I am guessing that is normal?
The 5.1.1 started working fine after an update all but I still couldn't install TWRP fyi.
Let's see how Marshmallow tastes!
The "does not contain boot.sig and recovery.sig" is standard. I have no idea why it continues to appear version after version, but it has no effect on the installation.
chiadrum said:
Flashing 6.0.1 now. Both times the CMD window has showed me archive does not contain boot.sig and recovery.sig.
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Same on my N6 when flashing 6.0.1. When 6.0.1 is running, you can flash TWRP recovery in fastboot mode.
NLBeev said:
Same on my N6 when flashing 6.0.1. When 6.0.1 is running, you can flash TWRP recovery in fastboot mode.
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Thanks guys.
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Thanks guys.
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Ok more strangeness.pPhone is working fine,no issues.However I am unable to unlock bootloader using the fastboot OEM unlock command.
The message is "Not supported command in current status".
Yes,OEM unlock is allowed in Dev Options.I tried turning that off in case the indicator was faulty and then I couldn't even attempt to unlock,immediate failure.
Tried this several times after reboots as well.
Build MMB29K.
Any ideas?
Would it be too simple an answer to say that it's because the phone is already unlocked? You couldn't install a new ROM with a locked bootloader.
I myself have been a bit surprised by the peremptory & derogatory comments of some of the very senior members in these forums when people ask what seem to be questions with obvious answers, and I'm beginning to see their point...
Still, I also recognise that an "easy" question is one that you know the answer to, and I don't want to put people off asking questions. Being knocked back myself several times hasn't stopped me asking.
That's actually a very good point.Perhaps the image came boitloader unlocked.I'll see if I can flash TWRP and install something. I haven't loaded any roms since the initial flash,I was following protocol to unlock,root and then flash.Appreciate the help.Sometimes obvious seems too easy.
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That's actually a very good point.Perhaps the image came boitloader unlocked.I'll see if I can flash TWRP and install something. I haven't loaded any roms since the initial flash,I was following protocol to unlock,root and then flash.Appreciate the help.Sometimes obvious seems too easy.
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Confirmed I am an idiot.Device is unlocked already. Wasn't expecting that.The people way smarter than me who prepared that image took care of it for me.
Not an idiot at all. Like I said, an easy question is one that you know the answer to. Experience counts...
It's not the image that is unlocked - it's the device. Once unlocked, you have to specifically lock it again, but it's neither simple nor a good idea. An unlocked device gives you a far better chance to recover from errors.
The other problem i have is when i try to flash bluesparks twrp and go to recovery the sceen is blank and only the led glows but i can flash the officaial twrp and flash roms but they come with error 7 and when i flash a oxygen os it gets stuck in updating system image
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but i can flash the officaial twrp and flash roms but they come with error 7 and when i flash a oxygen os it gets stuck in updating system image
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Error 7 often means you are trying to flash an Oreo ROM with an older version TWRP which does not support Oreo.
But we can't tell from the info provided by you. Always give version numbers and other details for TWRP (and blu_spark TWRP) you are having trouble with, as well as the ROMs you are trying.
Also, make sure you are using the right TWRP and ROMs for 3 versus 3T (another reason for Error 7).
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Error 7 often means you are trying to flash an Oreo ROM with an older version TWRP which does not support Oreo.
But we can't tell from the info provided by you. Always give version numbers and other details for TWRP (and blu_spark TWRP) you are having trouble with, as well as the ROMs you are trying.
Also, make sure you are using the right TWRP and ROMs for 3 versus 3T (another reason for Error 7).
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its the latest bluesparks
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its the latest bluesparks
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I said: always give a version number. "latest bluesparks" isn't a version number. I can't count how many times I've seen folks claim they flashed the "latest" recovery. And when prompted for more info, we find out that they aren't even close, sometimes flashing a version TWRP from 2 years ago or older! Not saying this is necessarily your case. But we don't know for certain, if you don't give us precise and accurate info to work with.
You also said you flashed official TWRP. What version number exactly?
You also need to tell us what custom ROMs (and versions) you tried to flash. And what version OOS did you try to flash?
Some friendly advice, try to take more than 5 seconds to type a response to questions we ask you. Provide as much detail as possible, and answer all the quesions. For that matter, when asking for help, posting 2 or 3 (poorly typed) sentences is rarely enough info to go on. Again, provide as much detail and specific info as possible.
this is mostly an outdated firmware issue, Always make sure you have the latest firmware for your device
Firmware 4.5.1/nougat/3T
Firmware 4.5.0/nougat/3
or you can try the Oreo ones
(Stable)
Firmware 5.0.0/Oreo/3T
Firmware 5.0.0/Oreo/3
(Open Beta)
Firmware OB20/Oreo/3T
Firmware OB29/Oreo/3
OP3T firmware thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/firmware-modem-collection-flashable-zips-t3565535
OP3 firmware thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/radio-modem-collection-flashable-zips-t3468628
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I said: always give a version number. "latest bluesparks" isn't a version number. I can't count how many times I've seen folks claim they flashed the "latest" recovery. And when prompted for more info, we find out that they aren't even close, sometimes flashing a version TWRP from 2 years ago or older! Not saying this is necessarily your case. But we don't know for certain, if you don't give us precise and accurate info to work with.
You also said you flashed official TWRP. What version number exactly?
You also need to tell us what custom ROMs (and versions) you tried to flash. And what version OOS did you try to flash?
Some friendly advice, try to take more than 5 seconds to type a response to questions we ask you. Provide as much detail as possible, and answer all the quesions. For that matter, when asking for help, posting 2 or 3 (poorly typed) sentences is rarely enough info to go on. Again, provide as much detail and specific info as possible.
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the bluesparks twrp which i flashed is 8.61 op-3t
and the official twrp which works is 3.2.1-0
so when i use the official twrp i have to remove the "assert" from the updater script and flash the rom or else i get the error 7
Something which has come up recently is that my homebutton/fingerprint sensor does not work (its like it doesnt exist) when i flash any rom from android 7-8.1.
So i came to stock by relocked the bootloader by the way like it happens when you hardbrick your device. now im in marshmallow.
Something you should know about is that i flash a lot of roms and locked and unlocked the bootloader a countless times and i think this has affected the files which might be related to the homebutton and fingerprint sensor .
The other funny thing is that when i called oneplus to help me with flashing the latest software there method helps me to get the bluesparks twrp but since i keep flashing i lose the twrp so thats the only way i can bliuesparks twrp
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Something you should know about is that i flash a lot of roms and locked and unlocked the bootloader a countless times and i think this has affected the files which might be related to the homebutton and fingerprint sensor .
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Doesn't work like that, the home button, fp sensor "files" are not in TWRP, or managed by FW in any way. All of these are in the /system folder of the ROM that is installed. Which is why they don't work in TWRP.
Have you been on MM since you got this phone? If so, your firmware is heavily outdated, and that's why you end up with the White LED of Death. Try flashing the latest Open Beta over stock recovery. Make sure to unlock your bootloader first. Then flash any variant of TWRP you want, and then see if you still get the White LED of Death.
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Something you should know about is that i flash a lot of roms and locked and unlocked the bootloader a countless times and i think this has affected the files which might be related to the homebutton and fingerprint sensor .
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You shouldn't be locking the bootloader if you are flashing custom recovery and custom ROMs, and you don't need a locked bootloader to flash official updates either. Really, there is no reason to lock the bootloader unless you are worried about security concerns; want a "full stock" conditions, etc. And for most xda users, an unlocked bootloader is going to be the highly preferable condition. Further, locking the bootloader requires be full stock (including stock recovery, not TWRP). And trying to lock the bootloader under any other condition, is asking for trouble.
I agree with the recommendation above, to flash the full zip of the Open Beta or official OOS update, which will put you on a fully "stock" baseline including firmware. Then go from there.
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The other funny thing is that when i called oneplus to help me with flashing the latest software there method helps me to get the bluesparks twrp but since i keep flashing i lose the twrp so thats the only way i can bliuesparks twrp
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If flashing the official zips with TWRP (including blu_sparks), you will always lose TWRP (overwritten with stock recovery) if you reboot after flashing the update. You can prevent this by flashing root (SuperSU, Magisk) or a custom kernel before rebooting (after the update).
Hello,
I bought a 9T Pro in Europe for my wife and until it arrives I'm trying to research and come up with a low effort process of keeping the stock ROM up to date and rooted for her. I'm confident in manually installing and updating custom ROMs, rooting and dealing with custom ROM issues, but she is not. Therefore I thought the best thing is to use the stock ROM - not custom - since it may be the most stable experience and for me to update and re-root it for her regularly. root is mandatory because we need AdAway and other things. As I understand it, as soon as we unlock and root the phone, OTA updates for stock are impossible and maybe even dangerous. I've tried researching here but am bit struggling to come up with the right infos and I'd be glad for any advice.
Of course I have seen the great thread about unlocking, rooting, etc, but It seems that that deals with non-standard Chinese firmware pre-installed, which is probably not the case on our device. Since it's bought in Europe, I think it will probably come with some Global or EU ROM. And it doesn't answer some of my other questions.
So far my idea is roughly like this:
Phone arrives
Immediately update it via built-in OTA to latest official stock ROM
Unlock, install TWRP, root with Magisk
Use the phone
Whenever a new stock ROM comes out, download it from XDA
Flash new ROM in TWRP and root again with Magisk
Repeat 4-6 as new stock ROM versions are released
Of course regularly backup with Titanium Backup and TWRP
First of all, would this work or did I misunderstand something fundamental?
How does low level firmware / modem update come into play? Would that be included in the stock ROM packages I find here? Or do I need to manually update that separately? How do I know when I have to, since there is no custom ROM maintainer telling me when it's needed?
Is there an easier way of doing this? This process requires me to regularly check for a new stock ROM, then borrow the phone from the wife for some time to backup, update, re-root and so on. Not that convenient but it would work if there is no better way.
Sorry for the long post, but I'd be very thankful for any advice or ideas. I did quite some research, but if all this info is already available and I missed it, my sincere apologies. It's a lot of info about a new device to take in. :silly:
derfraenk said:
Hello,
I bought a 9T Pro in Europe for my wife and until it arrives I'm trying to research and come up with a low effort process of keeping the stock ROM up to date and rooted for her. I'm confident in manually installing and updating custom ROMs, rooting and dealing with custom ROM issues, but she is not. Therefore I thought the best thing is to use the stock ROM - not custom - since it may be the most stable experience and for me to update and re-root it for her regularly. root is mandatory because we need AdAway and other things. As I understand it, as soon as we unlock and root the phone, OTA updates for stock are impossible and maybe even dangerous. I've tried researching here but am bit struggling to come up with the right infos and I'd be glad for any advice.
Of course I have seen the great thread about unlocking, rooting, etc, but It seems that that deals with non-standard Chinese firmware pre-installed, which is probably not the case on our device. Since it's bought in Europe, I think it will probably come with some Global or EU ROM. And it doesn't answer some of my other questions.
So far my idea is roughly like this:
Phone arrives
Immediately update it via built-in OTA to latest official stock ROM
Unlock, install TWRP, root with Magisk
Use the phone
Whenever a new stock ROM comes out, download it from XDA
Flash new ROM in TWRP and root again with Magisk
Repeat 4-6 as new stock ROM versions are released
Of course regularly backup with Titanium Backup and TWRP
First of all, would this work or did I misunderstand something fundamental?
How does low level firmware / modem update come into play? Would that be included in the stock ROM packages I find here? Or do I need to manually update that separately? How do I know when I have to, since there is no custom ROM maintainer telling me when it's needed?
Is there an easier way of doing this? This process requires me to regularly check for a new stock ROM, then borrow the phone from the wife for some time to backup, update, re-root and so on. Not that convenient but it would work if there is no better way.
Sorry for the long post, but I'd be very thankful for any advice or ideas. I did quite some research, but if all this info is already available and I missed it, my sincere apologies. It's a lot of info about a new device to take in. :silly:
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I didn't keep stock MIUI long enough to know definite answers, but from what I remember, this is my understanding.
OTA will still work and shouldn't cause any issues, just that you will lose TWRP and root whenever you do this.
The steps you give are the normal way to update with TWRP and root.
However, OrangeFox recovery (a heavily modified version of TWRP) is often used instead of TWRP in this circumstance. It is built specifically for MIUI devices and with a little bit of work, I believe that it is able to survive OTA updates. Have another dig around for OrangeFox in this forum section and hopefully you'll find details on how to set it up so that you can still take OTA updates.
Edit:
Found this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/k2...efox-recovery-mi-9t-pro-t3980579/post80480669
It seems OrangeFox it's a bit hit and miss.
Also Xiaomi.eu ROMs are another alternative to look into.
Robbo.5000 said:
I didn't keep stock MIUI long enough to know definite answers, but from what I remember, this is my understanding.
OTA will still work and shouldn't cause any issues, just that you will lose TWRP and root whenever you do this.
The steps you give are the normal way to update with TWRP and root.
However, OrangeFox recovery (a heavily modified version of TWRP) is often used instead of TWRP in this circumstance. It is built specifically for MIUI devices and with a little bit of work, I believe that it is able to survive OTA updates. Have another dig around for OrangeFox in this forum section and hopefully you'll find details on how to set it up so that you can still take OTA updates.
Edit:
Found this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/k2...efox-recovery-mi-9t-pro-t3980579/post80480669
It seems OrangeFox it's a bit hit and miss.
Also Xiaomi.eu ROMs are another alternative to look into.
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Wow, that's a lot of helpful info, thanks a lot for pointing me into these directions. I will definitely look into Xiaomi.eu, I that sounds promising!
Get phone. Apply for unlock. Unlock.
You can use my guide bit.do/raphaelguide
Use orangefox 10.8 use magisk.
You can flash eu ROM. Stable version. From xiaomi.eu
Eu rom installs official twrp after install. You are familiar with that
Once you have eu ROM ( same as stock, better performance, minimal bloat, no ads, no tracking)
Eu ROMs gets OTA, keeps root. This is exactly what you want. Just press update in settings as normal ota. It'll do normal ota update by itself, no titanium, migrate hassle.
Join telegram group if you want or on me for any help.
Sandeeep Kiran said:
Get phone. Apply for unlock. Unlock.
You can use my guide bit.do/raphaelguide
Use orangefox 10.8 use magisk.
You can flash eu ROM. Stable version. From xiaomi.eu
Eu rom installs official twrp after install. You are familiar with that
Once you have eu ROM ( same as stock, better performance, minimal bloat, no ads, no tracking)
Eu ROMs gets OTA, keeps root. This is exactly what you want. Just press update in settings as normal ota. It'll do normal ota update by itself, no titanium, migrate hassle.
Join telegram group if you want or on me for any help.
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Amazing, I have taken a look at Xiaomi.eu already and decided to try that. But what you're saying sounds even much better than what I expected. Thank you very much too, I will definitely go that route.