I changed my rom last year, from stock 5.1 to cyanogenmod 12.1 running android 5.1.1.
First I want to tell you my experience with my moto x. At first, although the battery was pretty bad, it was the only downside to it. When I bought it, it was on android 4.4.2 (I think). And it worked very well, it was fast and fluid. So after a while, the motorola forced all the time the android 5 update, which I did not want to do. But I gave up and did. From there, my RAM was always full at 70%, I had delay, it got much less fluid experience. I switched to cyanogenmod, because the internal storage space was tiny, it was my only alternative. I earned my storage space. A week ago i discovered that the voice recorder does not work on this rom, when I had to record a class on a class. Some options inside settings crashes, and close by themselves. The phone started to crash and reboot itself. I've added numerous apks from suspicious sources. I uninstalled all my applications and 5 gbs of internal space is still being taken. The memory is always 90% occupied. I can not put many application shortcuts on the desktop or the phone gets even slower. I recently discovered that recovery is no longer working. I can not access the twrp. i tried to flash twrp again, but when i use the recovery option, it just boot the phone again. I think he's corrupted. Root no longer works. I can not play pokemon go even with magisk installed. The camera image is also strange, it has several black spots as if it were dirty. So I gave up the rom. But I do not know what rom to install. I wanted some ROM based on Android 4.4.2 and it was as fast and stable as possible. I'm multi-tasking and I leave many apps open at the same time. I want some definitive rom so I'll never need to change rom again.
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Read through the "sluggish" thread and did not see my issue mentioned and thatthread seems to have become sidetracked with benchmarks and game responsiveness issues.
I am running stock nook rom, rooted and with sideloading enabled. I also use GOlauncher as opposed to the nook launcher.
What i have noticed is that after 2 to 3 weeks of use the tablet slowly starts to get slow and unresponsive. Dolphin takes time to open, and pages scroll very very slowly. Sometimes they will not scroll at all, even though theyare fully loaded and rendered. Scrolling is also noticeably slow and unresponsive in the engadget app. It is not smooth, but jerky, ifit scrolls at all. Rebooting does not have any effect.
The first time this happened i did bring the free space down to about 300meg. After reading other posts here i decided that was the issue, backed up and started allthe way over from scratch! The issue went away. I re-installed everything, got it running clean and smooth and set up just how i like it. I then took a cwm backup and put it insafe place. Fast forward 3 more weeks and i was back to slow scrolling and unresponsiveness again. At no time in that 3 weeks did i drop below 8 gig free, so i know that is not the issue.
Here is where it gets a little strange. Today, i did a full backup with titanium, then a restore from my fully config and SMOOTH cwm backup. I then did a restore all appps and system data from the titanium i made earlier in the day. I am back to smooth and responsive. This tells me there is something that is getting corrupted or not released, even with a reboot. Anyone have any ideas on what to try next time other than a restore from cwm and a reload from titanium?
I had the same issues with stock 2.1. Besides the slow game loading and random stutter for games, the device would slowly start to accumulate to slow for everything. I would like to test with 10.1 as my native stock OS, rather than 2.1.
I had a similar experience. Even after disabling nook sync apps and making tweaks, stock would eventually slow down. Something about stock 2.1 just doesn't manage its memory/cache properly.
This isn't the solution you may want, but I'd recommend trying emmc Cm10.1. Its plain, but its virtually bug free and hasn't crashed on me yet.
This isn't the solution you may want said:
I've been rooting and bootloader unlocking Android for about 3 years now and this has to be the easiest tablet to put CM 10.1 on with the latest tools. It's actually easier than my Nexus 7 when it first came out. My hair actually turned grey when I was unlocking my Note 2 bootloader. I wish every Android device was just as easy as the Nook HD+. I think part of the confusion is that in the beginning you had one method (running CM off sd card) and you now have the more current method (replacing Rom which is the most common). The development area needs to be cleaned up better because it does look confusing. I've only been a Nook HD+ owner for 24 hours and I have made my custom micro SD card, installed CM 10.1, reverted back to stock with no backup (needed to return for a bright pixel in the middle of the display), repeated process again with new tablet and made proper backups. Sounds like a lot but this is nothing compared to what I've been through.
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Seems to be because B&N has trim disabled:
http://blog.davidron.com/2013/10/fixing-lag-on-barnes-and-noble-nook-hd.html
Is there currently any ROM and/or Custom kernel, that doesn't suffer from the memory leak bug?
I am aware that similar questions come up on every other thread.
I also would love to try for myself. Stock KitKat and stock lollipop both suffer from the bug. On lollipop I have much more free ram, but chrome and other apps still redraw when multitasking.
Problem is, I don't want to unlock my bootloader yet, as I'm still considering giving back the phone.
Thanks in advance for any insightful advice.
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I am aware that similar questions come up on every other thread.
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Problem is, I don't want to unlock my bootloader yet, as I'm still considering giving back the phone.
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You seriously want an answer to that?
Just read "every other thread", then come to a conclusion and act accordingly. Or don't, since you don't want to unlock. Your choice.
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You seriously want an answer to that?
Just read "every other thread", then come to a conclusion and act accordingly. Or don't, since you don't want to unlock. Your choice.
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I've been reading "every other thread".
And yes, I seriously want an answer to that.
I never said, that I didn't want to unlock my bootloader, eventually I do want to unlock it. But according to your reply, I suppose you don't understand that. Nevermind.
Thanks, anyway.
Titan Prime will yield you the best results with memory, from my experience.
Besides that, all you can do is sit and wait for 5.1. And hope that it will fix the problem.
I've got a (german) XT1068, and I was on build RETDEALL 21.85-14 for the longest time (KK 4.4.4). The phone was sometimes close to unusable due to the memory issues: Almost every time I went back to my launcher (Nova) the widgets would reload (all two of them), every 5th time the whole launcher would have to be restarted. When listening to music, the player would often be killed when it's not the foreground app. This all was already with tuned settings and the like. Simply put, my Galaxy S2 was a much better phone, with better performance and multitasking (same amount of ram, but dual core only)...
I've updated to the 5.0.2 build that was (finally) released a few days ago (22.46-28). It's a world of difference. I would say the problems are either gone or at least they got the biggest of issues under control. So far I haven't had it running without a reboot for multiple days (installing xposed and associated modules tends to require reboots), but so far everything is looking perfectly fine. Widgets haven't reloaded even once, let alone the launcher. Multitasking works, even larger apps weren't killed (like reddit news, which tends to use quite a bit of ram after scrolling for a bit).
So I don't know whether it's fixed, but at the very least this is a fully-stock-option that works perfectly fine (for me), even though I'm rooted and use XPosed that is by no means necessary.
I also have the German OTA update. Everything works fine. As for the memory leak for me that is a thing of the past, was really bad in 4.4.4 and I had the same version as the above poster. Everything stopped in the background, in point of fact there was no multitasking. With 5.0.2 I can play music run a navigation app, surf the net no problem and still see over 400Mbyte free ram in setting all without the dreaded app has stopped working or seeing apps restarting.
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I also have the German OTA update. Everything works fine. As for the memory leak for me that is a thing of the past, was really bad in 4.4.4 and I had the same version as the above poster. Everything stopped in the background, in point of fact there was no multitasking. With 5.0.2 I can play music run a navigation app, surf the net no problem and still see over 400Mbyte free ram in setting all without the dreaded app has stopped working or seeing apps restarting.
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4.4.4 didn't have a memory leak, just high minfree values I think.
Lollipop does have a memory leak (and thats mostly googles fault) and the memory management is very buggy when compared to kitkat. The memory leak doesn't show instantly, it shows after some time and you can just reboot the phone to "solve the problem".
If you want a really good rom for multitasking I recommend CM 11 or some rom based on it.
4.4.4 definitely has some serious issues on the MotoG, it was not just the min free values. I had tuned those (basically tried everything), but it made no real difference. So far, LP feels like it's a different phone.
I agree. I can't understand how people would go back to KitKat after trying lollipop. Chrome and other apps still redraw when multitasking though. :\
Let's see if 5.1 fixes that.
BTW: does anyone get graphic glitches in Tapatalk and chrome? Sometimes whole areas of the screen turn glitchy, until I switch to another app or press the back key. (Glitchy= pixels in all colours, like an overheated GPU on a PC would produce.)
Hello folks.
I couldn't manage to find any other suitable title for my thread because thats it. My phone is damn slow.
I bought it on expansys month ago already and returned it because it wasn't what I expected - slow, unresponsive, wifi problems, battery problems. I got new one like a week ago and it was same "crap".
So I decide to root it and flash custom ROM - CM 12.1 for THEA. Worked like a charm for a day (or less) but okay. Yesterday I started experiencing problems. All of sudden phone restarted and when it booted up, started to boot again - bootloop I guess.
Somehow I managed to get it working. "Apps X out of Y are updating", when it finished after like 2 reboots it worked.
But later in the day "Auto Rotate" didn't work anymore (gyro out or something), people couldn't reach me, I couldn't reach them (had to call like 3 times to make it work) and its slow.
I reinstalled ROM today and wont install any application for now to see how long will it work normal.
Its strange that this is second model that I got and its still laggy. Could it be in my google account something terribly wrong? Only apps that are essential to me were installed (like 25-30), only official.
Anyone have a slightest idea of what is going on?
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the moto e 2015 is the same, very laggy device. i think alot of it is because of the memory leak 5.0.2 has. try to use xposed lollipop and the memory leak module.
Somehow I can't install Xposed (tried "xposed-sdk22-arm-xxxxxx.zip"). Therefore no modules work.
Whats the point of "Android is starting. Optimizing app x of y" ? I get this every restart...
Xposed will work on 5.0.2. If your on 5.1 search xda for the alpha xposed for lollipop 5.1. Works fine here.
Yeah found it. Installed "Lollipop Memory Leak" module. Next few days will tell if phone is worth keeping.
Anyway this question its still hot, why "Android is starting. Optimizing app x of y" pops up after restart? I get feeling something is wrong all the time.
Mine is very slow too. Pretty annoying actually. And when I watch videos on Instagram or Facebook, the sound and video is never in sync.
I put xposed with the lollipop mem leak module on my rooted xt 1072 and also gravity box and I think things like sluggishness and overall speed has improved.
Yes this phone is so slow it's painful. I got this phone because my nexus 6 is in for repair and as soon as it's back I'm returning this poor excuse for a phone. I wasn't expecting flagship performance but my god this thing is so so slow, and I get a horrible hiss when I'm make or recieve a call.
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
I'd recommend flashing a rom like pure nexus, super stable that should fix your problem, otherwise you've done all you can and is the easiest fix
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving​ apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
Good luck...
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Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving​ apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
Good luck...
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First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
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Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
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Hello,
Don't worry, it's really easy. Also, if you are lost, there must be a ton of tutorials in general section. If you are lost yet, just ask and someone will point you in the right direction...
Good luck...
lchiu7 said:
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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I've been running Pure Nexus and wanted to let peeps know I put Nitrogen on and man it's so smooth, my wifi tether is back and I went to sleep last night with 50% battery still. When I installed it I opted for the nano gapps I think so like 175mb for minimal apps and maybe that's why it's running so efficient. Maybe I could have re-installed Pure Nexus with a clean install and it would have gotten better but it was a good time to try something else. Also when Nitrogen got an update I was notified just like stock and it downloaded. I didn't even know these could do that. Anyways give it a try and you might just switch back. I was looking into new phones but if it keeps working so smooth with battery longer than a day then I'm fine for now.
Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
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... It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
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I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
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I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
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Currently I have FB, FB messenger, and Chrome but when I installed gapps I chose a super lite install so tons of bloat and google apps were not installed and my battery has gone way up and it's so smooth. I'm sure even when we don't use apps they're always doing something in the background. I bet you're right and a stock lite ROM would be good too with the minimal bs apps.
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Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
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Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
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Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
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I would flash TWRP, flash supersu in TWRP to root, make a complete backup in twrp, then remove whatever Google apps you're not using with a system app removal app. Getting some of that bloat off the device should help. If it's still laggy, then look into a custom ROM. I run Tesla on my Nexus 6 with none of the issues you're having. I don't decrypt it either
Running abdroid 7.1 here. I dont get any slowdowns, at leas until the battery doesnt drop below 50 and 25 percent.
Im running a custom kernel and my phone is rooted. Everything else is stock.
Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
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Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
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Hello,
Since your bootloader is unlocked, flash TWRP and install the kernel, no problem.
Might give you a slight boost at first sight, but your device will likely slow down over time anyway...
Cheers...
I'm on 7.0 with the April SP. I have dozens of apps installed, including Hangouts. I use Firefox for browsing, I like it better than chrome (and you can install an ad blocker).
My camera slows down when the battery is under 40%, and the whole device slows dramatically, though not unusable, at or below 5%. But otherwise, no issues what so ever.
One solution that I have not seen suggested here is resetting the device and NOT taking the Google account backup of all your apps. I would suggest making a completely clean install of the factory rom you have and installing one or two apps at a time, most important to you first. And do this for a few days/weeks until you find the app that's misbehaving.
Although there are general bad players out there, this bad app could be unique to your device. Just because all devices of the same model have the same specs and components, doesn't mean that there isn't variability in parts quality.
I would do this before trying any new roms or kernels. Find the true problem first.
Good luck!
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I had another idea: Go into your battery stats and network stats and storage stats and see if any app seems to be using too much of any, or all of the 3. This may get you the answer more quickly.
Hi all from a noob,
Hopefully I've put this post in the correct place but if not would a mod move it for me please.
I'm almost new to Android and this is my first go at modding an Android device so please bear with me. I may have taken on too much for a noob but I am where I am.
I recently installed PixelExperience_Plus_ali-12.1 (Android 12) using TWRP 3.7, without root access, onto a Moto G6 (ali xt1925-4, single SIM) that I was given to play around with and learn some Android stuff.
Installing the OS was not as straight forward as hoped and it took several attempts but I got there in the end. The phone boots up, albeit slower than with the old Motorola Android 9 (Pie) but guess that's to be expected.
I haven't extensively run/tested the device or put in a SIM card yet, in part, because I've been getting some errors that I'd like to fix first. I've searched the forum but haven't found anything that helps and I know trying solutions for similar devices/problems, without suitable guidance, can create more issues than it solves.
I'd be very grateful for some help.
The errors messages I'm getting so far are:
1.) "android.process.media keeps stopping...." This occurs quite often and may be the main culprit of other issues.
2.) "com.android.phone keeps stopping...." This has happened 2 or 3 times in the last 24 of fiddling and appears to happen randomly. I haven't tried to use the device as a phone yet - no SIM installed.
3.) "Not enough storage space...." This appears bringing the phone out of screen lock if I've left the Play Store open when the screen lock has activated. Settings -> Storage shows "30% used - 22.55 GB free". I believe the device has 32 GB of storage.
There are no apps installed other than the ones that came with PixelExperience_Plus_ali-12.1 and Magisk 25.2 and TWRP 3.7, which were already on the phone before I did the upgrade. I believe PixelExperience_Plus_ali-12.1 come with GApps.
I haven't changed any of the settings on the phone other than the Screen Timeout from default to 2 minutes and set the WiFi password.
The Magisk app appears to have problems, though I haven't tried to use it. I wonder if I should uninstall it but I don't know what other issues this could cause if I did (uninstall it).
Apps won't install from the Play Store. When Install button is selected the screen flashes and displays "Pending" then returns to the App's install screen and occasionally a fleeting message appears saying something about low storage but it disappears too quickly to read.
The device seems to eat the battery which I only replaced, with a supposed genuine replacement, a short while ago.
Settings -> Battery suggests 24hrs use on a 100% full charge, with Android 9 it was about 4 days.
There are other issues but I don't want to make this post too long especially if resolving item 1 above resolves some or all of the others.... ever hopeful.