i installed lineage 14.1 it showed me that i had 29 GB space but when i connected my phone to laptop. my laptop showed me 25 GB. then i flashed stock rom again but still internally its showing that it has 29 GB but when i connect it with laptop its still showing 25 GB. i don't know whats going on. i have did lot of things. used adb/fastboot, twrp, FDR etc but nothing is working.
what am i missing?
thehassanrasool said:
... showed me that i had 29 GB space but when i connected my phone to laptop. my laptop showed me 25 GB.
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There are different methods to calculate storage.
Megabyte is a unit equal to 1,048,576 bytes. The official SI definition is "mebibyte" MiB is 2^20 *bytes.
25GB is what you're left with after operating system. These files are hidden away to prevent people accidentally deleting them. What you're seeing is completely normal.
If memory serves me correctly, when you format the device it'll show 29GB in recovery, before the OS is installed.
NLBeev said:
There are different methods to calculate storage.
Megabyte is a unit equal to 1,048,576 bytes. The official SI definition is "mebibyte" MiB is 2^20 *bytes.
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you are not getting my point. it all happened after i flashed lineage OS. before lineage OS, everything was fine. after flashing lineage os, it showed me 29 GB but in real it was 25 GB in laptop when usb connected. and still now after flashing stock rom, this difference is not over. in settings there is 29 GB and in laptop its 25 GB
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you are not getting my point. it all happened after i flashed lineage OS.....
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On my N6 (stock 7.1.1) it is the same. Storage 29,12 GB.
On the PC N6-storage is shown as Internal Shared Storage.
Capacity: 27.893.952.512.00 bytes = 25,9Gb.
Conclusion:
- I get your point.
- You are not the only one with 25,9Gb.
- It has nothing to with Lineage OS.
- It has to do with calculation, not with flashing.
I get 29.12GB on phone and when i hook it up to linux laptop it shows as 27.9GB. Running rooted stock 7.1.1.
TMG1961 said:
I get 29.12GB on phone and when i hook it up to linux laptop it shows as 27.9GB. Running rooted stock 7.1.1.
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That's the same as 27.893.952.512.00 bytes.
Also frequently used. But according to the Google marketing guys it's 32Gb.
It's not just Google. All device manufacturers do it. For example, a Galaxy S4 has 16GB storage, but after the ROM and recovery are installed a stock device only has a little over 9GB left. It's still advertised as having 16GB storage however.
The other issue here is that the hard drive manufacturers years ago redefined a gigabyte as 1,000,000 kilobytes while operating systems at the time used the original size of 1,024,576 kilobytes (now redefined as a "kibibyte"). The redefinition passed into common usage, so your 16GB (Gibibytes) is really 15.6GB (Gigabytes). Simply doing the math reveals this. 16,000,000 / 1,024,576 = 15.616. Confusing? Hell yes. We never had need of two systems. All the marketing geniuses had to do was be honest. But, being marketing geniuses, that was too much to ask for.
NLBeev said:
On my N6 (stock 7.1.1) it is the same. Storage 29,12 GB.
On the PC N6-storage is shown as Internal Shared Storage.
Capacity: 27.893.952.512.00 bytes = 25,9Gb.
Conclusion:
- I get your point.
- You are not the only one with 25,9Gb.
- It has nothing to with Lineage OS.
- It has to do with calculation, not with flashing.
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thanks a lot dear for understanding the situation. now i am feeling relax that this is not the issue with me only. but still, there is one question which keeps popping up in my mind is that when i received this handset it has the STOCK ROM 7.0 which was showing 25 GB in phone settings area and also showing the same storage 25 GB in the computer. if i look at that situation it looks normal to me. but now I and you are experiencing the same issue. why are we facing this issue now? is there any other way to flash the stock ROM to show the right storage space both on phone and on the computer because when i received the handset. its storage space was perfectly right on phone and computer and that was 25 GB.
54.6GB on Windows 10
58.24GB on Nexus 6
Flashing a stock ROM won't help here, as both numbers are correct. To resolve it so the Nexus 6 reports approximately the same amount as the PC, you'd need to revise the source code and change the storage space calculation so it uses 1,024,576 instead of 1,000,000. It may make sense in a zRAM app, and I did that modification for a zRAM app included in a custom ROM I was maintaining ages ago. However, I feel you're getting too hung up on the numbers here.
thehassanrasool said:
.... when i received this handset it has the STOCK ROM 7.0 which was showing 25 GB in phone settings area and also showing the same storage 25 GB in the computer....
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I've read about memory size issues. That concerned the 64Gb versions. Only 23Gb was shown/available. To solve this a reformat was needed.
I've used my N6 about 28 months. I have the idea that in all Android versions the user available memory size was always about 29Gb.
On my PC the size was different, but I ignored it.
N6 with Android 7.0 and storage size of 25Gb is weird for me. But Google delivered 7 versions of Nougat, so........ I can't tell more.
NLBeev said:
I've read about memory size issues. That concerned the 64Gb versions. Only 23Gb was shown/available. To solve this a reformat was needed.
I've used my N6 about 28 months. I have the idea that in all Android versions the user available memory size was always about 29Gb.
On my PC the size was different, but I ignored it.
N6 with Android 7.0 and storage size of 25Gb is weird for me. But Google delivered 7 versions of Nougat, so........ I can't tell more.
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ok sir thanks
NLBeev said:
I've read about memory size issues. That concerned the 64Gb versions. Only 23Gb was shown/available. To solve this a reformat was needed.
I've used my N6 about 28 months. I have the idea that in all Android versions the user available memory size was always about 29Gb.
On my PC the size was different, but I ignored it.
N6 with Android 7.0 and storage size of 25Gb is weird for me. But Google delivered 7 versions of Nougat, so........ I can't tell more.
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That's a whole different issue... That happens if you flash the data partition from a factory image. Since the image is made for a 32 GB system, it'll report as such until the data partition is formatted for the correct size, 64 GB.
The issue the OP is talking about is merely the difference between the prefixes kilo-/kibi-, mega-/mibi-, giga-/gibi- and so on.
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Hello Everyone
I rooted and already have my phone the way I want it but I've noticed that when you do the full wipe
theres like 7 gigs of space missing. I was wondering if anyone was able to at least get most of their space back when they wipe the phone
if so how can i do it?
I currently running the Rage Rom thinking of going back to Ecliptic ONE
and i have TWRP recovery
any ideas will be appretiated thanks
Have you made any backups?
g00s3y said:
Have you made any backups?
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I made a back up but i deleted it unless theres another back up am missing somewhere?
how much space you supposed to have after the full wipe?
I recently did a full wipe and it was like 6.x gigs right off the bat. It boggles the mind, considering there are phones out there that have only that much total capacity.
Wtf htc.
Does anyone know how much space AOSP roms take? I'm switching once the installer comes out.
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I recently did a full wipe and it was like 6.x gigs right off the bat. It boggles the mind, considering there are phones out there that have only that much total capacity.
Wtf htc.
Does anyone know how much space AOSP roms take? I'm switching once the installer comes out.
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AOSP ROMs are typically around 120-150 Megs zipped, sense ROM go.from 700 to a little over 900 MB's zipped.
https://vzwsupport.jive-mobile.com/#jive-discussion?content=/api/core/v2/discussions/804286
It's only 25 GB available left. :-[
Sent from my m7spr using tapatalk4
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AOSP ROMs are typically around 120-150 Megs zipped, sense ROM go.from 700 to a little over 900 MB's zipped.
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Right, but I'm asking for how much CM takes after installation and clean wipe. I'm not sure how compression works, so this may be wrong, but if I set up a proportion (I'm almost sure you can't do that), CM comes to 1.5 gigs installed (205meg for 10.2 zipped), which seems more reasonable.
It really sucks that I have to keep clearing out stuff because I start with only like 25 gigs of space rather than 31.5.
Can somebody who has 10.2 installed comment?
if its off a fresh boot, it's because of all the apps that prolly installed to the internal sd got erased, thats why you had more space, and still have your files and stuff
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if its off a fresh boot, it's because of all the apps that prolly installed to the internal sd got erased, thats why you had more space, and still have your files and stuff
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I (tried to) delete ALL data from my phone and it was still 7 gigs.
Got this explanation from another site.
The 32GB are in 1000Byte = 1KB Logic, and the 25GB should be in Binary Logic, so 1024Byte = 1KB. which gives at first a "loss" of about 2GB: 32GB = 29,8023GiB
the rest of the space is mostly the android system, reserved space for cache etc... one small part will be the journal of the ext file sytstem which is used instead of yaffs. So arround 200-400MB i think will be covered by the ext journal.
you have the same problem with harddisks too. The firms write it in decimal logic but the operating system does it in binary. Some Operating Systems nowadays also write the correct GiB or MiB or KiB but not all...[\quote]
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use a file explorer and go back as far as you can. Check /data/media. if you've ever flashed a 4.2 rom it moves all your files around and it gets confusing.
If that doesn't find it, download Diskusage. it could help you out.
Has anyone increased the internal memory from 1.48GB ? This is very limiting since there is 25GB USB/SD card storage available for use. I do get low on space warnings these days therefore, trying to understand if this is something possible or not.
I am running CM10 and I researched and went down the path of various SD partition and finally soft bricking the tablet, thanks to WebOS for recovering
Like I mentioned I am trying to understand if this is a hardware limitation and I am sure the touchpad user community would love to take advantage of large external memory for apps.
Thanks,
~H
hjayana said:
Has anyone increased the internal memory from 1.48GB ? This is very limiting since there is 25GB USB/SD card storage available for use. I do get low on space warnings these days therefore, trying to understand if this is something possible or not.
I am running CM10 and I researched and went down the path of various SD partition and finally soft bricking the tablet, thanks to WebOS for recovering
Like I mentioned I am trying to understand if this is a hardware limitation and I am sure the touchpad user community would love to take advantage of large external memory for apps.
Thanks,
~H
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Newer ROMs based on datamedia do not have this issue. I use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450358 and it runs very well. To install the ROM, you have to resize the partitoins semi-manually using Tailor in Webos, but it's not too painful.
therealMazingerz said:
Newer ROMs based on datamedia do not have this issue. I use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450358 and it runs very well. To install the ROM, you have to resize the partitoins semi-manually using Tailor in Webos, but it's not too painful.
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Agree tailor is user friendly and all. Now, how much of the internal memory does this newer ROM give? and can you give us more info on the name and link.
Thanks,
h
hjayana said:
Agree tailor is user friendly and all. Now, how much of the internal memory does this newer ROM give? and can you give us more info on the name and link.
Thanks,
h
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I posted the link, it's CM 10.2.
How much space is available to install applications depends on how you resize the partitions using Tailor. This info in on the post I linked:
Advised partition layout:
Quote:
system - 500mb
cache - 200mb
media - 400mb
data - [remaining space] (i.e. ~11.5gb for 16gb TouchPads)
Using that layout, there would be around 11.5G (on a 16G Touchpad) to install applications.
I am not an expert, and I installed that ROM a couple of mounths ago (I don't remember most details), so take this information with a grain of salt
Thanks for the response therealMazingerz, I was able to increase the internal memory to ~20GB using tailor, the 'memory check' failed couple of times, I uninstalled/installed android with newer mobot and I was able to 'check filesystem' and increase android data space.
I am 'still' using the CM10.1 since it does not have other quirks as in >CM10.2, while the dedicated people work on fixing it.
Stay warm!!!!!
juggling the limited touchpad memory is tricky but tailor partition is the easiest way
Hello,
The RAM shown in my Nexus6 is
Code:
Total: 2970MB
Available 1332MB (45%)
Java Heap: 256MB
The Total RAM 2970MB is shown in the apps CPU-Z and Droid Info. Why the value is lesser than 3GB (3072MB) ? There should be a technical reason for that. Please let me know. Thanks.
Yep, the difference is allocated to a bunch of other hardware blocks, like the MODEM.
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Yep, the difference is allocated to a bunch of other hardware blocks, like the MODEM.
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okay, I also have learned from the internet that the difference is held by the GPU, which the OS is not aware of. So the Total: 2970MB shows the available memory and not the installed memory, Correct ?
aniyan.rajan6 said:
okay, I also have learned from the internet that the difference is held by the GPU, which the OS is not aware of. So the Total: 2970MB shows the available memory and not the installed memory, Correct ?
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Yes. Boot to bootloader and it will will tell you what brand and size ram and memory is installed in device.
Also the storage space shows 54.6GB instead of 64GB. Is it because of the reserved space allocated, when the filesystem is formatted to ext4 ?
aniyan.rajan6 said:
Also the storage space shows 54.6GB instead of 64GB. Is it because of the reserved space allocated, when the filesystem is formatted to ext4 ?
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That is minus the system and other partitions reserved for firmware and the OS.
prdog1 said:
That is minus the system and other partitions reserved for firmware and the OS.
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But it takes almost 10GB of space, which is huge. I think it is good that I have brought a 64GB version.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
But it takes almost 10GB of space, which is huge. I think it is good that I have brought a 64GB version.
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This is why you always buy as much memory as can afford.
prdog1 said:
Also the storage space shows 54.6GB instead of 64GB. Is it because of the reserved space allocated, when the filesystem is formatted to ext4 ?
That is minus the system and other partitions reserved for firmware and the OS.
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If the remaining space (64GB - 54.6GB) is used by the OS and firmware, then what does the Available Storage mean ?
The Available Storage shows 49.88GB (91%). I mean there is one more difference: 54.6GB - 49.88GB. Please clarify. Thanks.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
If the remaining space (64GB - 54.6GB) is used by the OS and firmware, then what does the Available Storage mean ?
The Available Storage shows 49.88GB (91%). I mean there is one more difference: 54.6GB - 49.88GB. Please clarify. Thanks.
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os and firmware + extra for future updates takes up the first 10 giving you 54. Available is your userdata. Anything less that 54 is what you put on it.
prdog1 said:
os and firmware + extra for future updates takes up the first 10 giving you 54. Available is your userdata. Anything less that 54 is what you put on it.
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okay, When I brought this phone the Available Storage was 51GB, without adding any data by me. So I think something else has taken space from the 54GB (54 - 51 = 3GB).
Then I added some music files and the Available Storage is 49.88GB now.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
But it takes almost 10GB of space, which is huge. I think it is good that I have brought a 64GB version.
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Not 10 GB, no. The difference is less.
In software, 64 GB is 64x1024 Bytes x 1024 KB x 1024 MB.
In hardware, 64 GB is 64x1000 x 1000 x 1000.
Because there is now a difference in what hardware manufacturers call a GB, they tried to rename the true software GB to be GiB instead (though generally I refuse to do this).
So to work out how many GB of software data you can get in a 64 GB hardware disk, use the maths below.
64 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000, / 1024 /1024 /1024 = 59.6 GB
So a 64 GB anything is only really 59 GB.
Then as mentioned, that is partitioned into /system, /cache, /data etc
danarama said:
Not 10 GB, no. The difference is less.
In software, 64 GB is 64x1024 Bytes x 1024 KB x 1024 MB.
In hardware, 64 GB is 64x1000 x 1000 x 1000.
Because there is now a difference in what hardware manufacturers call a GB, they tried to rename the true software GB to be GiB instead (though generally I refuse to do this).
So to work out how many GB of software data you can get in a 64 GB hardware disk, use the maths below.
64 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000, / 1024 /1024 /1024 = 59.6 GB
So a 64 GB anything is only really 59 GB.
Then as mentioned, that is partitioned into /system, /cache, /data etc
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Okay, So is 'Total Internal Storage: 54.64 GB' the size of the /system partition or /data partition ?
Thanks.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
Okay, So is 'Total Internal Storage: 54.64 GB' the size of the /system partition or /data partition ?
Thanks.
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Data.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
Okay, So is 'Total Internal Storage: 54.64 GB' the size of the /system partition or /data partition ?
Thanks.
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/data AKA userdata. This is where your apps go, where your settings are stored and where your sdcard is.
danarama said:
/data AKA userdata. This is where your apps go, where your settings are stored and where your sdcard is.
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So that 3 GB (54.64GB - 51GB) is used by the apps, I guess. So that is the reason why it was showing 'Available Storage: 51GB' at the beginning.
Thanks.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
So that 3 GB (54.64GB - 51GB) is used by the apps, I guess. So that is the reason why it was showing 'Available Storage: 51GB' at the beginning.
Thanks.
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When you get the phone new, when you boot it, some system settings will be stored in data. Also some things related to Android Run time.
aniyan.rajan6 said:
If the remaining space (64GB - 54.6GB) is used by the OS and firmware, then what does the Available Storage mean ?
The Available Storage shows 49.88GB (91%). I mean there is one more difference: 54.6GB - 49.88GB. Please clarify. Thanks.
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54.6 - 49.9 = 4.7
4.7 / 54.6 = 0.0861
0.0861 = 8.61%
8.61% rounded to the nearest percent = 9%
100 - 9 = 91.
Does that clarify it for you?
Like the title sates, I want to partition some space on my computer to build ROMs using Linux, but is 120gb enough? I have a tb hard drive so I'm not worried about space
jamescable said:
Like the title sates, I want to partition some space on my computer to build ROMs using Linux, but is 120gb enough? I have a tb hard drive so I'm not worried about space
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I'm building NLOS for my own purposes and I gave 230 GB and its enough (ccache max - 25 GB), but note I'm also booting from that partition.
Aim for at least 220 GB.
How is possible that there is only available 103.33 GB out of 128 GB while other 128 phone have for example Galaxy note 9 111GB? If it says cause by A/B partitions, this seems like too much difference.
ond96 said:
How is possible that there is only available 103.33 GB out of 128 GB while other 128 phone have for example Galaxy note 9 111GB? If it says cause by A/B partitions, this seems like too much difference.
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Also for 64gb version i can use 46.01gb. there is a little bit difference between actual size of storage for example my hard disk is 1tb(1024 gb) but i can use 930gb. thats how storage works. it is normal
edit: a/b partitions takes 2x system partitions than a only devices(every partition is twiced expect data) converted 64gb a2's storage is 50gb
I saw somewhere that you A/B takes up to 1 GB more. Well, it is around 6-8 gigs less than A device, this can be a huge downside for Android One devices without SD card. I guess my next phone wont be A One.?
@ond96, every partition has a version of Android on it self, so when update comes, it install it self on inactive partition, then when your phone ask for restart, it switches active partition to one that just got updated, and every time after new update rotate partitions.
So, if installed system occupies ~10GB x 2 .... there you go.
This is a big problem for 32GB versions of this phone, I have 64GB, and I don't mind.