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Capacitive Button Responsiveness?

Recently, I've been considering getting a Nexus One, however, most of the reviews I read say that the N1's capacitive buttons are a little unresponsive. You must tap the upper half of the button as opposed to the bottom half of the button.
I've also read that some of the cyanogen roms have fixed this problem. Can anyone give me more insight on this issue?

I've never had a problem with mine.
I saw a review saying that they got in the way when typing w/ the onscreen keyboard, but I haven't even had that, and I'd like to think that I have pretty normal-sized fingers.

Some people have problems, others don't i personally haven't. I wouldn't consider it to be something important enough to sway me from a sale though.

Stock Rom had this issue. If you unlock your bootloader, all the kernels (and mods) available now have a fix for this, as well as a few other things.
Im sure when 2.2 update comes out this fix will be passed on to the stock version too (at least as far as im aware it hasnt already!?). So tbh this isnt an issue for you not to get a nexus one...also, there's no point getting a nexus one if ur too scared to unlock the bootloader!!

adam18488 said:
Stock Rom had this issue. If you unlock your bootloader, all the kernels (and mods) available now have a fix for this, as well as a few other things.
Im sure when 2.2 update comes out this fix will be passed on to the stock version too (at least as far as im aware it hasnt already!?). So tbh this isnt an issue for you not to get a nexus one...also, there's no point getting a nexus one if ur too scared to unlock the bootloader!!
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Definitely! That's one of the biggest reasons why I want an N1. It has a good root and dev community and gets android updates first.
I just thought it'd be annoying to have to use a phone with crappy capacitive buttons, but I'm glad to hear that the problem has been fixed.
The only other thing I'm worried about is the dualtouch but it's most definitely going to get fixed in the next update.
Thanks to everyone for their input. I'll definitely be picking up an N1 soon

I have rooted and custom roms etc and I still hate the capacitive buttons with a passion. They are not nearly enough to topple the overall awesome that is the N1 but man I hate those things.

I only hate those buttons, when Nex is in my car mount!

adam18488 said:
Stock Rom had this issue. If you unlock your bootloader, all the kernels (and mods) available now have a fix for this, as well as a few other things.
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Is this true? I've tried plenty of ROMs and kernels and I don't remember any of them changing the button sensitivity.
The best way to show off how frustrating the buttons can be is to give the phone to someone that's never played with it before and watch as they struggle to register touches on the buttons. The people that use the phone daily have recognized that the touchpad is above the button and never think about it any more.
It's very apparent as soon as you rotate the phone into a different position though.

PrawnPoBoy said:
Is this true? I've tried plenty of ROMs and kernels and I don't remember any of them changing the button sensitivity.
The best way to show off how frustrating the buttons can be is to give the phone to someone that's never played with it before and watch as they struggle to register touches on the buttons. The people that use the phone daily have recognized that the touchpad is above the button and never think about it any more.
It's very apparent as soon as you rotate the phone into a different position though.
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I also haven't noticed any change in the sensitivity with different ROMs or kernels. For me though, sometimes if I hit right on top of the button it won't register. I am used to just tapping it a little above and it works everytime.
As others have said, this is definitely not a deal breaker for me or shouldn't be for any person IMO. This phone's pros far outweigh the cons.

The best way to show off how frustrating the buttons can be is to give the phone to someone that's never played with it before and watch as they struggle to register touches on the buttons. The people that use the phone daily have recognized that the touchpad is above the button and never think about it any more.
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When someone is doing that you should just say that it has Finger print authentication technology

absolutely true and this was my discovery today (day 4 with n1). the buttons work fine if you cheat towards the top of the button area and overlap into the screen area.
that solved it for me.
resolved for me for now...

xboomer55 said:
absolutely true and this was my discovery today (day 4 with n1). the buttons work fine if you cheat towards the top of the button area and overlap into the screen area.
that solved it for me.
resolved for me for now...
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Did you just buy your N1 from Google brand new?

Those buttons are a pain in the bum, but you get used to them, the bigger problem is if the phone gets too cold it starts mis-registering the touchscreen necessitating a reboot or a bunch of mucking around to fix it. This is the biggest annoyance with the phone for me, hopefully they fix the screen calibration in 2.2!
Almost swapped mine for a Desire, thinking less of doing so now, unless anyone can offer a good reason

I got my N1 straight from Google on day one, and I'm currently running CM 5.06
I find the capacitive buttons to be _awful_ if I tap directly on them it takes 2-5 attempts to get it to register.
However, I have found that if I swipe from the button down off the bottom of the button it registers ever single time.
I'm pretty convinced that the problem isn't the digitiser itself but in the driver that splits that section of the digitiser off. I believe it checks to see if there is upward movement before registering a button tap and if it does detect upward motion it cancels the tap event and forwards the event as a touch screen event. I also thing that because I have pretty big fingers any time I press the flattening of my finger registers as a slight upward motion.
If I could find the button "sub"-driver I'd be hacking at it right now.
Still, I wouldn't give up my N1.

SilentMobius said:
I got my N1 straight from Google on day one, and I'm currently running CM 5.06
I find the capacitive buttons to be _awful_ if I tap directly on them it takes 2-5 attempts to get it to register.
However, I have found that if I swipe from the button down off the bottom of the button it registers ever single time.
I'm pretty convinced that the problem isn't the digitiser itself but in the driver that splits that section of the digitiser off. I believe it checks to see if there is upward movement before registering a button tap and if it does detect upward motion it cancels the tap event and forwards the event as a touch screen event. I also thing that because I have pretty big fingers any time I press the flattening of my finger registers as a slight upward motion.
If I could find the button "sub"-driver I'd be hacking at it right now.
Still, I wouldn't give up my N1.
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Just realized that!!
It does not get the upward movement
It gets: right, left & down
So this means, one could set different options for different directions...

hacker01 said:
Recently, I've been considering getting a Nexus One, however, most of the reviews I read say that the N1's capacitive buttons are a little unresponsive. You must tap the upper half of the button as opposed to the bottom half of the button.
I've also read that some of the cyanogen roms have fixed this problem. Can anyone give me more insight on this issue?
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I have noticed no issues when holding the phone in my hands but the responsiveness is not that great if the phone is flat on a desk or a similar surface. I wonder what if anything the accelerometer may play a factor.

PrawnPoBoy said:
Is this true? I've tried plenty of ROMs and kernels and I don't remember any of them changing the button sensitivity.
The best way to show off how frustrating the buttons can be is to give the phone to someone that's never played with it before and watch as they struggle to register touches on the buttons. The people that use the phone daily have recognized that the touchpad is above the button and never think about it any more.
It's very apparent as soon as you rotate the phone into a different position though.
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I dunna man, my 3-year-old daughter figured it out within a minute of getting my phone. I set her up in a game and she decided she wanted something else, so she messed with the capacitive buttons until she got out of the game. Once she had it once or twice (~5-10 seconds for her to figure out each time) it was pretty much instant after that. If a 3-yo can figure it out, I'm pretty sure it's not THAT difficult. Annoying, sure....but not difficult.

hacker01 said:
Did you just buy your N1 from Google brand new?
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Yes. Direct from Google.

Wow there's definitely a good mix of answers. I thought that the newer batches of N1's fixed the capacitive button problem, but apparently not.
I guess there's not a definite answer. It seems the only conclusion you can make is that some N1's may still have the problem, some may not. Some can be fixed with custom roms and unlocking the bootloader and some cannot. Your results may very.
EDIT: After rereading some of the previous posts (more carefully. excuse my sleep deprived state lol), the capacitive button issue might actually be more of a feature than an issue. I've read similar posts about the capacitive buttons having that sort of "motion detection" thing to prevent accident presses. Hopefully for anyone still having the problem, you can reread some of the posts on this page and give their methods a try

I haven't had a problem with mine but I haven't had the problems most people say they have with the phone so I would recommend this phone to anyone that wants an android phone
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Nexus One screen accuracy?

I've had Nexus one for a week so and I am very happy with it (so much better than my old touch pro2 except the keyboard). However, one thing really bugs me is the screen accuracy. A lot of times say when I press on a link in the browser the press actually registered to something below. So in order to hit the link l want I need to press a little bit higher. For example if there's 3 links
Link0
Link1
Link2
When I press on link1 the screen showed I pressed on link2. And press Link0 takes me to Link1. It's not a deal breaker but it's quite annoying. Same thing happens for the home/back buttons. So is this a common problem with Nexus one or just my device? TIA

what is your firmware version.
some say this problem was fixed for 2.1-u1
was for me.

You can always use the trackball to select links if they're stuck really close to each other

zachthemaster said:
what is your firmware version.
some say this problem was fixed for 2.1-u1
was for me.
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This is a well-known issue and was not fixed for 2.1-u1. It does occasionally happen and is quite annoying but I've learned to live with it.
The awesome things about the device outweigh the little annoying things for me

Bryce2010 said:
This is a well-known issue and was not fixed for 2.1-u1. It does occasionally happen and is quite annoying but I've learned to live with it.
The awesome things about the device outweigh the little annoying things for me
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Thanks for everyone's reply. I think mine has the latest firmware but I guess this is a common issue that cannot be addressed through software......

no it cannot be fixed so far, and it still exists with the newest froyo. the only solution is to lcok the screen, then unlock. that resets it and fixes the problem for a good while. only takes a few seconds. its one of the nexus one's little dirty secrets!

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no it cannot be fixed so far, and it still exists with the newest froyo. the only solution is to lcok the screen, then unlock. that resets it and fixes the problem for a good while. only takes a few seconds. its one of the nexus one's little dirty secrets!
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Lock and unlock screen..you mean press the power button to turn off the screen and then turn the screen on and slide to unlock?

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You can always use the trackball to select links if they're stuck really close to each other
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+1 thats what I do when you cannot click on something no matter how much you zoom in. trackball+click

[REVIEW] Motorola Xoom Bluetooth Keyboard

I just got my Xoom bluetooth keyboard in today for my nook, and I got to say... I couldn't be happier
Typing on this thing is so easy as it is a full size keyboard. The keys are nice and big, but not to big but just the right size. They have a nice spacing and the whole keyboard just seems to flow and it let's your fingerrs move fast across the keys.
It does have it down sides such as: not all the keys seem to work most do without a problem but caps lock does not work, as does the Tab button. Arrow keys work, but they seem to be swithed, the left arrow goes up, the right arrow down, the up arrow left, and the down arrow, right. I assume these keys work on a computer that can make use of a bluetooth keyboard but seeing as my computer does not have such functionailty, I cannot test it out.
Around the edges there is a glossy finish which leads to mucho fingerprints. The keys are matte, so the only time they ever seem to get nasty is when you are really greassy, or you are sweaty.
All in all, I'd have to give this keyboard an 8/10 It would get a 7, but seeing as how I got it from wal-mart for around $10-20 cheaper, it makes it a great deal
P.S. It's not AS sexy as the pictures make it look :/ but its very slim and is still pretty sexy in person
P.S.S The nook box makes a great "dock" when you are at a table at the library
P.S.S.S I just took a typing test on my nook and got 58 words per minute, which is just a little slower than my normal typing speed of 65 on my computers keyboard
LOOK FOR PICS BELOW
*Sorry if my grammer and punction are off, I did type this all from the keyboard and will edit it when I can get home.

Thanks for letting us know, it sure does look cool
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-XOOM-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Review_id2668

Once HC is released then it will work with the caps and tab buttons
Sent from one of those missing Droids

altimax98 said:
Once HC is released then it will work with the caps and tab buttons
Sent from one of those missing Droids
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Ahhh that does make sense... And I guess that also means if I was using the stock music player the music keys would work. I am using phirmod 5.1 and the music keys don't work, the menu key doesn't work, and the keyboard seems to disconnect... kinda a lot. And I wishI could fix the key mappings on the dpad but I'll get used to it I assume

What app did you use to check your APM?

jinp6301 said:
What app did you use to check your APM?
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I didn't use an app, there is a website called 10speedyfingers, or something, that will let you check you wpm online. Just Google it and you should find it

@DiscoPh3v3r: can you post a photo of nook and keyboard together for size comparison? Thanks.

you beat me on a review by one day! I also got it from wal-mart ship-to-store (expecting to get a text from them any minute saying it's there) and was surprised at the price difference even over Amazon! I figured man this is MADE for android, why not get it? the first BT keyboard I bought I had to take back (from Frys) bcuz not only was it broken, but also it was so small I don't know how they can consider it a full sized keyboard.
I'll be getting mine, as I said, today or tomorrow, so I'll write my thoughts on here as well (as long as the OP doesn't mind).
Quick question, does it come with a case or anything to protect it? If not, I'll be looking for something to do so since I usually carry my nook and such in my backpack...

Ill try to post a picture but camera isn't very good
And it doesnt really come with a case, but it does come with a nice little plastic sleeve it comes wrapped in, sure it will look cheap, but it works great for me.

Hey Disco, got mine today and it works great except for it going to sleep mid typing pretty often, any idea why and how to fix it? This would about ruin it for me if I can't get it fixed...

JLCollier2005 said:
Hey Disco, got mine today and it works great except for it going to sleep mid typing pretty often, any idea why and how to fix it? This would about ruin it for me if I can't get it fixed...
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Yup, that was one of my mine gripes. I cant seem to get it to stay connected, I'm hoping it is nook related and not keyboard related, so that it can be fixed with a new nightly. As of late I have not been able to get to stay connected because sometimes it will last about 30minutes and then die, and other times it takes just a second or 2.

DiscoPh3v3r said:
Yup, that was one of my mine gripes. I cant seem to get it to stay connected, I'm hoping it is nook related and not keyboard related, so that it can be fixed with a new nightly. As of late I have not been able to get to stay connected because sometimes it will last about 30minutes and then die, and other times it takes just a second or 2.
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after talking to others, searching around the net, and frustrating attempt at fixes, I found a work-around. Download the app Bluetooth Keyboard JP, change the settings in settings > Language and Keyboard to that app, then connect the keyboard.
I went from a (max) of 45 seconds connected to not getting disconnected after writing a lengthy email, posting to facebook, and letting it sit for 10 minutes. I also didn't get that problem where the keyboard would seem connected, but all of a sudden hit the back button and exit out of the app/screen I was in.
It does have it's issues, though. One being that the faster you type the less responsive it is. I'm a very fast typer and it's hard for me to slow down, but it still was ok. Sometimes it will repeat a keystroke (i.e. we will turn into wwwwwwwwwwwwwwe), and sometimes the special character box will pop up while tying (although I think this, again, had to do with fast typing).
I'm going to try to get in contact with the CM7 devs and see what they think and if there is a fix in the works (or at least point it out to them and tell them about the app). Knowing those guys, they'll probably be able to fix the initial issue and eliminate the other problems with it!
Edit: Oh and with this app I was able to get tab to work on some apps, but not others (seems to work good with mobile websites), the back button works perfectly, as does the home key and search.

DiscoPh3v3r said:
Yup, that was one of my mine gripes. I cant seem to get it to stay connected, I'm hoping it is nook related and not keyboard related, so that it can be fixed with a new nightly. As of late I have not been able to get to stay connected because sometimes it will last about 30minutes and then die, and other times it takes just a second or 2.
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I have a different Bluetooth keyboard and it does the exact same thing on my nook, works fine on my desire. So i do believe that it is nook related and not the keyboard.

I posted in the thread below how to get arrow keys working in landscape mode and menu button to function correctly. I attempted to make other keys work as well. See link. Expand the single post to see additional details given by me in the next post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12918367&postcount=44

[Q] Camera Issues

Hi guys. Recently I've noticed a bad camera problem with my IncS. You see when I open the camera app ( on MIUI's ROM ) it lags pretty badly. When I point the camera at one direction, and move to another, it lags. But if I repeatedly click my menu softkey button while moving my camera around, it doesnt lag at all. Does anyone know a fix to this? Thanks in advance!

oh and I restored back to the original ROM I had running which was the official htc's latest rom for the IncS and the camera works fine. no lag issues. Seems like when I flash AOSP roms, the camera lags. help?

I find any AOSP rom has laggy camera in low light
When I take it to better lighting conditions the lag goes away
You're not alone mate
I think it has something to do with trying to take in as much light as possible when there is not enough

@markj338 yeah I actually thought that that might be a possible reason to its horrible lag, so I took it outside this afternoon at around 12pm. It was bright but still the lag was there. And just to be clear, its no ordinary lag. It's like if i point at one place, it shows that place, but when I move my camera away, it waits for around 10 seconds before it shows that place. If you get what I'm trying to say here.. Sorry for the horrible english. But yeah.. that's the problem :/ thanks anyway appreciate it.

Oh mine only lags a bit
When I move, the image will be slow and distorted and will take its time to focus
But not 10 secs, mine is like less than 1, its just choppy and distorted
I'm on CM 7.2
Mine could probably be classified as 'ordinary lag'
Like if you were using a crappy low range phone
What rom are you using, and does this happen in all lighting conditions?

@markj338 well right now im back on my sense rom. the official one. I restored. But I tried miui's rom, cm7.2 and the camera's the same. When I click the menu button repeatedly, then it's ok. but if i dont click anything, it lags a lot....... so yea

Strange.
But I do find the sense camera to be the best

Surprisingly little crap -but Emui = ughh!

Got my p10+ yesterday and spent some time setting it up, I was pleasantly surprised at how little bloatware there is on the phone (UK on contract)
The default setting of all apps on the home screen is poor though, it's like they're trying to emulate the iPhone. I don't know about anyone else but I like Android partly 'because' it doesn't look like an iPhone. Just as well it's an easy feature to turn off.
The multifunction action button takes a bit of getting used to as well, atmo I keep looking for the hardware buttons either side of it but it's getting easier.

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Got my p10+ yesterday and spent some time setting it up, I was pleasantly surprised at how little bloatware there is on the phone (UK on contract)
The default setting of all apps on the home screen is poor though, it's like they're trying to emulate the iPhone. I don't know about anyone else but I like Android partly 'because' it doesn't look like an iPhone. Just as well it's an easy feature to turn off.
The multifunction action button takes a bit of getting used to as well, atmo I keep looking for the hardware buttons either side of it but it's getting easier.
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Jesus, your saying the home screen looks like i phone? Just check out the settings page. The phone came full of crappy bloat. I'm in the UK to. Why can't it just be like the nexus or pixel range. My Pixel XL also feels well more responsive compared to the p10 plus. I feel there is a delay/lag when using the UI.

lol the way they stick all the icons on the home screen is very iPhone (I have to use one of them for work and I hate it).
I deleted a few apps, like the facebook/twitter/instagram stuff that I prefer to use the browser for because I don't need a notification pushed to me every time somebody posts on any of them. I also got rid of some of the Huawei stuff but it only took ten minutes of checking things out and deciding I didn't want them. It may be that Three didn't want as much as some other providers on the phone, I don't know.
Re lag, I've not noticed any, the phone seems more responsive (so it should) than my Oneplus2. I'll miss not being able to change the led notification colour and I want to use a different launcher but can't get it to stick. NFC is good, battery seems very good so far and the camera of course is great.

Nova launcher is definitely the way to go with emui. Solves the majority of issues for me with regards to look and feel.

I prefer ADW myself but it looks like I might have to upgrade to v2

I couldn't get Nova Launcher to work for me. It installed alright, but it wouldn't stay up. What steps did you take?

Go into Settings, then Apps, the hit the Settings tab at the bottom, then Default App Settings and then Launcher to choose which one to use.
Thankfully you only have to do it once...

Hey Folks
Has there been an OTA for the UK yet... Ive just unboxed my P10+.. and its on B120 (March 2017) but theres no OTA or anything on HiSuite.
So whats the C432 B130 EU rom i keep seeing online
Any Advice