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Obviously, the battery has been terrible on this device. I disabled Google Play Services for a day and I want to say my life tripled. However, not having Google Play Service is no way to live; can't access the Play Store, location services don't work, Gmail doesn't work, etc.
I've come across a way to disable only some of the Google Play Services via DisableService app. However, it needs to be rooted. I can't root it via PingPong because my Baseband version ends with 0F1
What are my options here? Wait til I can root it? Wait for 5.1.1 and put up with the subpar battery life? Anything else to significantly improve the battery?
If you have OF1, as of now there is no wait for root. Another exploit may be found but for now, if your on OF1, root is gone, possibly forever.
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ozv101 said:
Obviously, the battery has been terrible on this device. I disabled Google Play Services for a day and I want to say my life tripled. However, not having Google Play Service is no way to live; can't access the Play Store, location services don't work, Gmail doesn't work, etc.
I've come across a way to disable only some of the Google Play Services via DisableService app. However, it needs to be rooted. I can't root it via PingPong because my Baseband version ends with 0F1
What are my options here? Wait til I can root it? Wait for 5.1.1 and put up with the subpar battery life? Anything else to significantly improve the battery?
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I would disagree that battery is terrible, but some basic battery saving techniques without root include dim the screen brightness, disable battery hungry apps such as facebook, S Voice, and instagram, use tasker to automate everything, turn off con.nectivity services such as wifi and bluetooth when not in use, and use greenify (even though root is required for this app to be automated). Also avoid using Googles widgets. Dont use vibrate mode either. Everything else requires root.
i dont have root. my battery is acutally great then when i first very bought the phone. i cycled the battery only to charge it at 2-5% left on battery to full did that for almost one month now and my battery has improved alot. i use the phone quite alot as well. my phone can last a whole day without charge. i have facebook instagram tumbler snapchat installed. using stock launcher as well. i just make sure to close all the apps ive used before my phone goes back into my pocket. when i get home i usally have around 33% battery left. oh i also keep a small powered fan next to my phone when its charging cause the phone does get little hot when it charges but keeping that fan on. when it charges it has changed alot my battery is way better.
Have you tried disabling S-health in App Manager?
I'm having serious battery issues that just started out of nowhere. I'm currently only getting about 4 hours of light use before having to recharge.
I'd like to look at what apps are using the battery but there are only 5 apps listed and they add up to only 27% (the highest is screen at 12%).
Phone is not rooted and I haven't loaded any new apps recently.
I noticed this as well. I used to use Better Battery Stats when I was rooted, so I didn't know if it was normal to act this way or not. Sounds like it isn't.
Currently having the same issue. Seems like my battery started tanking right around Christmas. I got a Huawei watch and originally suspected that but turning it off and leaving it home for a day didn't seem to help. The battery stats on the S6 are garbage and I can't track down what is going on.
Been noticing the same issue on my G920A. I tried doing a cache clear, but that doesn't seem to have helped. I went through all the running apps and services to try and find anything that could be eating the battery, but nothing seems to be reported that adds up to the amount that's getting eaten.
I use greenify for handling the hibernation of apps when they don't seem to act right by themselves, but since the phone isn't rooted, I have to manually run this operation - and that really doesn't help much anyway. Figured I'd add my experience to this thread just as a means of documenting the situation.
Anyone using battery monitoring apps like BBS or GSam, can you share some of your stats here? I'm trying to figure out whether the seemingly massive amount of wakelocks I'm having is normal or not. The biggest problems seem to be coming from the kernel itself. BBS shows a lot of kernel wakelock time, and GSam consistently lists the kernel as the highest drain in its app sucker screen. Also, the Phone app seems to be waking the device a lot since upgrading to .5.51, which wasn't a problem on .3.374.
I've attached some screenshots that illustrate the problem. I'm already using ForceDoze and Greenify, which have been enabled via ADB, and I've restricted background activity and data for the vast majority of my apps. I'm really hoping there's something I can do about this given that it's impossible to use another kernel (LB and none available for this phone anyway). I've software repaired/clean flashed 3 times.
My battery drain is actually not bad at under 4%/hr (combined screen on/off) and about 1%/hour with the screen off overnight. Today I've logged over 4.5 hours SOT in a period of 17 hours and am sitting pretty at 36%. That's better than any phone I've ever used. But I worry that all the wakelocks are using my phone's CPU, raising its temperature, and might contribute to faster battery degradation.
Also, this is with bluetooth off and my Pebble not paired, but battery drain becomes substantially worse with that setup. My idle drain triples with my Pebble connected. I'm trying to troubleshoot one issue at a time and want to nail these wakelocks before moving onto the bluetooth issues.
If your battery stats looked like mine and especially if you figured out how to fix it, please share!
Given that Sony ended .5.51 deployment prematurely and is currently rolling out .8.49, I think you should update to .8.49 (or wait until your region gets the update if you don't have it yet) then recheck if your problem still persists.
Pouring time and resources into a version that Sony is no longer pushing isn't that great of an investment, especially since it's possible that it was fixed in .8.49.
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Given that Sony ended .5.51 deployment prematurely and is currently rolling out .8.49, I think you should update to .8.49 (or wait until your region gets the update if you don't have it yet) then recheck if your problem still persists.
Pouring time and resources into a version that Sony is no longer pushing isn't that great of an investment, especially since it's possible that it was fixed in .8.49.
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Everything except the phone app using more battery was the same on .374. And I fixed that after force stopping the phone app and rebooting. I've been trying to troubleshoot this for weeks but just upgraded to .5.51 a couple of days ago. I will flash it when it comes out for Customized UK, but I don't think .5.51 is the root of the problem.
(Oh cool, Xperifirm actually shows .8.49 available for Customized UK now. Time for some flashing!)
Edit: I'm seeing the same degree of wakelocks so far on .8.49.
Update: The battery drain from "phone" is actually Android System. There's a bug in Oreo where sometimes Android System is showing as Phone/RCS in the battery stats. Doesn't explain why Android System is using so much battery though.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/7f7jk2/pixel_2_rcs_battery_drain_is_there_any_way_to/
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/7edcav/rcsservice_draining_battery/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/rcs-draining-battery.657535/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/rcs-service.666045/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/found-way-to-end-rcs-sucking-battery-after-oreo.659711/
So I managed to get a lot of my battery drain figured out, but a few things are still bothering me.
1) Google Play Services and Android System and/or Phone (see my last post) are using the Significant Motion Sensor to wake my device constantly.
2) Sony's smart charger (com.sonymobile.smartcharger) is waking my device. I'm assuming this has something to do with Battery Care, which I find to be a useful feature. But why does it need to continue sending alarms to wake up our phones when not plugged in?
I've attached 2 screenshots from Better Battery Stats showing the first issue (Sensors/Play Services and Phone) and 1 showing the second (Alarms/Smart Charger). Note the "wakeup=true" and long times recorded for Significant Motion. This held true when I had my phone sitting face-down on a table for 6+ hours to do battery testing earlier.
Anyone else who uses battery monitoring apps: have you noticed any similar issues?
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So I managed to get a lot of my battery drain figured out, but a few things are still bothering me.
1) Google Play Services and Android System and/or Phone (see my last post) are using the Significant Motion Sensor to wake my device constantly.
2) Sony's smart charger (com.sonymobile.smartcharger) is waking my device. I'm assuming this has something to do with Battery Care, which I find to be a useful feature. But why does it need to continue sending alarms to wake up our phones when not plugged in?
I've attached 2 screenshots from Better Battery Stats showing the first issue (Sensors/Play Services and Phone) and 1 showing the second (Alarms/Smart Charger). Note the "wakeup=true" and long times recorded for Significant Motion. This held true when I had my phone sitting face-down on a table for 6+ hours to do battery testing earlier.
Anyone else who uses battery monitoring apps: have you noticed any similar issues?
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I'm with you on RCSService being main culpirt for me. No I don't think it's a bug, it actually does use lots of battery. I listen to 3+ hours of bluetooth music a day and when I saw that RCSService was using more power than my bluetooth, then I thought it was time to experiment. So I uninstalled Carrier Service and RCSService and suddenly my battery life jumped by 20%. There was something in the November update to these services that made them go nuts. Several people have noticed a jump in battery usage, but most people, myself included, thought it was down to the new firmware. Uninstalling these 'features' has made no difference to SMS for me, other than I don't get a read confirmation.
I don't know about smart charger, sorry.
Pretty sure the proximity sensor is always on and that must use some power, but I don't know what that would be called in BBS.
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I'm with you on RCSService being main culpirt for me. No I don't think it's a bug, it actually does use lots of battery. I listen to 3+ hours of bluetooth music a day and when I saw that RCSService was using more power than my bluetooth, then I thought it was time to experiment. So I uninstalled Carrier Service and RCSService and suddenly my battery life jumped by 20%. There was something in the November update to these services that made them go nuts. Several people have noticed a jump in battery usage, but most people, myself included, thought it was down to the new firmware. Uninstalling these 'features' has made no difference to SMS for me, other than I don't get a read confirmation.
I don't know about smart charger, sorry.
Pretty sure the proximity sensor is always on and that must use some power, but I don't know what that would be called in BBS.
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Thanks! I should clarify that when I say it's a bug, I believe something is using a lot of battery, but I don't know that it's necessarily Phone/RCS, because it shows up randomly as either that or just Android System. I think it might be something within Android System but being labeled as Phone or RCS. (Edit: Or the other way around; it could be 100% RCS and sometimes shows up as Android System because the phone is part of that umbrella.) I could be wrong but based my judgment on the links I posted above.
That being said, I disabled Carrier Services on your recommendation in the other thread because my carrier doesn't support VoLTE, VoWiFi, or RCS, I've never seen a "delivered" message, and I don't even use the Google Messages app anyway (I use Texra for SMS and keep Messages disabled). So like you, I don't need these services. And I do think there's been an improvement. Might be time to go through the rest of what you recommended via ADB. The only thing that concerns me about doing that is that I'll have to factory reset if I ever switch carriers and want those services, but I guess that's a small price to pay and an unlikely scenario anyway.
The smart charger thing is just weird. It shouldn't need to constantly check whether I'm charging since it kicks in when you plug in. Yesterday I disabled battery care during the day and re-enabled it at night to charge, and I had the best battery life since I've owned the phone: 4.5 hours of SOT over 18 hours off the charger with 30% remaining. I may have to look at idle drain with battery care disabled. I like the idea of battery care, but if it's draining my battery then it just defeats the purpose.
Regarding sensors, BBS has its own category for proximity sensor; this is a separate sensor for significant motion. Somehow Google Play Services and either Phone/RCS or Android System are using that particular sensor all the time. And not just listening to it, but causing lots of wakeups and doing so while the device is sitting on a table all night. I can only deduce that it's somehow seeing motion when there isn't any.
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Regarding sensors, BBS has its own category for proximity sensor; this is a separate sensor for significant motion. Somehow Google Play Services and either Phone/RCS or Android System are using that particular sensor all the time. And not just listening to it, but causing lots of wakeups and doing so while the device is sitting on a table all night. I can only deduce that it's somehow seeing motion when there isn't any.
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Do you have 'On Body Detection' enabled in smart lock? That would force the phone to affirm if it's moving/stationary regularly and quite often.
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Do you have 'On Body Detection' enabled in smart lock? That would force the phone to affirm if it's moving/stationary regularly and quite often.
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I never enabled that from the start, but just checked in case Google did something, and it's still off.
I also checked my app permissions, and the only ones with access to body sensors are Google Play Services and Tasker. None of my active Tasker profiles require the significant motion sensor. One of them does use the orientation sensor to turn the speakerphone on when it's face-up during a call, but I tried disabling that profile and the stats didn't change.
Maybe I have a messed-up accelerometer...do you know of a way to test that? (Edit: Found it in the Support app - my accelerometer, gyroscope, and proximity sensor are fine)
I think I might head to the Sony Mobile forums with the smart charger issue for that matter. It may be a bug that affects all phones with Qnovo features, or maybe they could at least give me an explanation.
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Might be time to go through the rest of what you recommended via ADB. The only thing that concerns me about doing that is that I'll have to factory reset if I ever switch carriers and want those services, but I guess that's a small price to pay and an unlikely scenario anyway.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't you just "reinstall" those services via the same adb commands? Where you typed uninstall, just replace with install?
Maybe, but I don't know where I would be installing them from...? Since I don't have a backup of the package. I uninstalled a bunch of stuff via adb before and it didn't return with a dirty reflash. I had to flash userdata. So that's all I'm going by.
I'm not sure of the actual technical mechanics, but I believe uninstalling system apps doesn't actually remove the package from the system image, so you can reinstall them at any time.
I think it's like taking down a sign on a store, the actual store is still there, just all references to it are no longer there, so to the OS it's not listed - "uninstalled".
Hello - was there any solution found for this issue?
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Anyone else who uses battery monitoring apps: have you noticed any similar issues?
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Hi there, what was the final solution to your issue?
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Hi there, what was the final solution to your issue?
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I gave up. I still have a ton of wakelocks. GSAM shows a bunch of them even when my phone is supposedly dozing. My battery life is OK, not nearly as great as I hoped I'd have with this phone, but it gets me through the day so I've just been living with it. I have noticed better battery on the latest firmware (July patch) than June. I also got rid of the RCS stuff, which helped a bit. And finally I traced a lot of my drain to an app I was using called "hide running in background notification" which the last few firmwares can do natively.
(Edit: Sorry for missing your previous post!)
Edit: I was sadly mistaken about better battery on the July patch. The battery is only better if I'm not on wifi. I posted in the wifi drain thread about it just now.
My Gear S2 operates as normal as it should, however even at idle, the battery drains rapidly. Once the unit is completely dead, I then dock it and it will say 60% charge, which I know is wrong given that the unit will not power on undocked, meaning the battery had been completely depleted. Unit charges normally but I think a bug is preventing it from reaching actual 100% since it believes 0% to be 60%. Is there a way I can fix this without tearing apart the unit or replacing the battery?
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I'm having the exact same issue, did a factory reset today updated all apps still same. I use a basic watch face, turn brightness to 2, everything off except Bluetooth and can get about a day of use . Is anyone else having this issue and has a solution?
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So update on this issue, (on the Gear App on the phones most updated version) I went to the basic watch face in gray scale, then turned off all notifications, under gear connection, I unchecked sync wi-fi profiles, and under about gear I unchecked marketing information. I'm not sure which of those if any made the difference but at the end of day one 16 hours of use I was at 70%. So on the second day I tried a colorful watch face with animations, and 16 hours in I was at 63%. So one of those changes I made may have fixed my issue.
I did uninstall and reinstall the app on the phone, as well as reset the watch itself, neither seemed to work until I did the above changes. Hopefully that will help someone, or at least help to find out what is causing the massive battery drain.
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So update on this issue, (on the Gear App on the phones most updated version) I went to the basic watch face in gray scale, then turned off all notifications, under gear connection, I unchecked sync wi-fi profiles, and under about gear I unchecked marketing information. I'm not sure which of those if any made the difference but at the end of day one 16 hours of use I was at 70%. So on the second day I tried a colorful watch face with animations, and 16 hours in I was at 63%. So one of those changes I made may have fixed my issue.
I did uninstall and reinstall the app on the phone, as well as reset the watch itself, neither seemed to work until I did the above changes. Hopefully that will help someone, or at least help to find out what is causing the massive battery drain.
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With all that I have done with my gear, most I was able to get was about 10 hours. Though today it did to something odd. It died completely like it normally does, (it dies anywhere between 3-10% ish, and when it does die, its completely dead) so I placed it on the dock. Two minutes later I check and it reports 34%, "thats odd" I think to myself so I undock it and power it up thinking I would get no more than 5 minutes battery life on it since it couldnt possibly have that much charge in two minutes. I also expected it to report a low percentage but it didnt. I placed it back on my wrist and it continues to run about 10 minutes later down to 25% and still going! I find it odd. My current leakage issue I think remains and might be why the watch doesnt last as long. I might end up getting a new battery and see. My top battery user: watch faces at ~45%, even if the face hardly came on, and I am using one with a custom background that is mostly pure black.
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That does sound pretty weird. I had a custom watch face installed "Mr Time" and started with a brand new install and I'm slowly adding things back in.
I would suggest a fresh install of the phone app, and the watch, using the classic face black and white. If you can get similar results to what I have then one by one start customizing it. I tried a lot of things to get it to work, over several days and that's what worked for me. I even uninstalled all of the watch faces I want using from the app"i felt that Mr time was still running in the background, even though it probably wasn't.
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My phone got the update to Android 9 a little over a week ago, and since then it has been losing battery like crazy. For example, last night I left it unplugged as a test, and it lost 30-40% of battery within 6 hours (while I was sleeping). Before the update, a fully charged battery was able to last for two days, now it doesn't even manage one. The phone is often noticeably warm.
I restricted all "consuming apps" some days ago, that did not make any difference. I also tried 3rd-party apps to analyze the battery consumption, but did not find any way to figure out what consumes all the battery in the background / while the screen is off.
Using Google I found other people with the same problem, but I did not find a solution. What can I do?
I had a same kind of problem but it started a few days after a manual update flash. I had been experimenting with some root stuff (mostly magisk though so they should go away by uninstalling the modules) but could also not figure out the reason for the drain.
I also tried to reflash only system and vendor partitions, but ended with a bootloop, so I had to flash the whole firmware again. No problems after that.
I would try a factory reset if I were you.
You can also try GSam battery monitor (if you already haven't) to figure out what's happening with your phone while the screen is off and it should be sleeping.
I upgrade the XPZ yesterday to 4.41 Pie. Charge the mobile after upgrade to 100%.
The current situation looks like:
18hour active, 30 Min Display, a few calls... Whatsall, newsletter, Mail..... are running in the Background, LTE, EDGE and WiFi are always on, BT has a connection to my watch...
88% are still in the Accu. (Save mobil datatransfer is aktiv; additional the option is enabled to reduce power consumption for apps in background)