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Hi everyone,
I'm using the xiaomi mi2 today and all in all happy. It got wet and screen is broken so I have to think of an alternative soon before it dies completely.
I came across the Z3c and was charmed by the similar size and great battery life.
I kind of disappointed it only have 2gb ram, okay camera, no ir.. But it's very good looking water resistant phone.
My limit is 5".
I thought maybe to wait for the z4c because of the 1080p screen, 3gb ram probably but kind of stressed by the fact it will host the problematic 810 snapdragon,which warms up AZ everyone in the Internet reports.
Should I buy it now or wait? Would you buy it today even that its almost one year out, and maybe there's better options today?
I'm also a bit amazed I can't root the phone without losing the already not so great camera quality.
How is the development community here? Is it planned to have 5.1? would you recommend CM and other roms as a good option or is it buggy and bad battery life?
I bought one today.
1080p is nice (I had Nexus 4 which is 720p and went to HTC M7 which is 1080p, it is no thaaaaaaaat difference)
2Gb of ram is enough
I don't think there are better options, and with SD810 things are getting "hotter".
You can root without loosing camera quality
5.1 is planned to arrive on July by sony.
Im buying mine next month. Same Price of G3 but that 2k display made me run away lol
And love sony too
eranyanay said:
would you recommend CM and other roms as a good option or is it buggy and bad battery life?
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I tried CM nightlies, performance and battery life is good. But battery life is better at stock rom because of power saving algorithms of sony.
Biggest down side is the camera in custom roms like CM. You should unlock bootloader to flash custom roms and this action removes DRM keys, resulting in bad camera quality. There is also the wide lens issue, images get distorted in camera apps other than stock sony camera app. I would like to use CM but as far as I know there is no fix for bad camera in Cm (or in other custom roms).
But the good thing is that you can restore drm keys if you have backed up drm keys with a tool in the forums, and return to rooted stock roms and regain the not-so-great-but-absolutely-better-than-cm image quality for camera.
Ok, zihinsiz say all good things, but if i can tell you something... Take care of you mi4, because with our z3c you will have no real benefits (ok, battery A LITTLE better, screen and resolution A LITTLE better) but nothing really really better that you can see as really different as your actually situation
zihinsiz, Thanks for the input. Is it possible to root without removing DRM keys (which actually means, without unlocking the bootlaoder?) , and then to have CM with the sony camera, which does all the PP and thus not losing image quality? beacuse if not, it actually means I should never exchange roms...not being able to remove embedded bloatware (which is done easily with root)
PeppeBove, I have the mi2 (bought it when it first got out, almost 3 years ago!), did you mistype and think I have the mi2, and claim there's no big difference comparing both, or did you misread and think I have the mi4?
I also have another question, Where can I find the differences between both Z3C models D5803, D5833? Which one is the "international" one?
And how is the speaker phone & speakers volume? Is it good enough?
eranyanay said:
zihinsiz, Thanks for the input. Is it possible to root without removing DRM keys (which actually means, without unlocking the bootlaoder?) , and then to have CM with the sony camera, which does all the PP and thus not losing image quality? beacuse if not, it actually means I should never exchange roms...not being able to remove embedded bloatware (which is done easily with root)
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Yes, you can have root without unlocking the bootloader and without losing drm related functions. So, you can debloat the stock rom, flash mods and use xposed framework without losing any function.
And trying cm or other roms is also possible after unlocking bootloader and returning to fully functional stock rom is possible with drm restore and bootloader relocking. Unfortunately Sony camera app only works in stock roms, that is the disadvantage I talked about. You should forget camera if you have a custom rom installed, that bad is the quality I think.
Camera quality is the only thing gets bad while bootloader is unlocked? and in any case, using any other camera app will get bad results?
gps and all other sensors behave OK no matter what?
Is it possible to get google dialer or some of the stock feeling of aosp/cm roms?
As a Z3C owners can you see any other competitor with better specs at this dimensions (< 13CM height) ?
Im already looking at the devilcase metal bumper...
eranyanay said:
Camera quality is the only thing gets bad while bootloader is unlocked? and in any case, using any other camera app will get bad results?
gps and all other sensors behave OK no matter what?
Is it possible to get google dialer or some of the stock feeling of aosp/cm roms?
As a Z3C owners can you see any other competitor with better specs at this dimensions (< 13CM height) ?
Im already looking at the devilcase metal bumper...
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You can look at the topic in my signature for example pictures. I think my pictures are at the last or 1 before last page.
I took the pictures with Camera FV-5 and an unlocked bootloader.
They really aren't bad in my opinion, you will probably only notice a difference with low light.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4928&idPhone2=6538. Thats a spec to spec comparison. I just got the z3 compact too and have had to switch over since my m7 decided to conveniently die on me without any warning sign. Overall I cant really tell the difference in the resolution partly because in day today applications it doesn't really matter. I suggest investing in a magnetic charger as well in order to maintain the water- resistance of the phone. The battery life is yet to be put through the paces but it's already shaping up to be much better than my heavily customized m7 was. Both my phones had 2 gigs of ram and I never saw myself using more than 1.5 gigs at the most. Overall I'd say it was worth the upgrade especially since I got my z3c for 300 AUD . Also the bluetooth low energy is handy if you use bluetooth headphones or if your car supports it. After the oneplus one, this is the second best phone in terms of price to specs to the fact that it is actually small enough to call a phone. My 2 cents would be not to wait since sony supports their devices for 18 months so you do get Android M and possibly the next iteration as well so really you've got all bases covered here
i wouldn't buy one today. it feels more sluggish than my wife's galaxy alpha, so i would go with an S6, even having the battery+screen size+water proofness penalty.
reg-sux said:
i wouldn't buy one today. it feels more sluggish than my wife's galaxy alpha, so i would go with an S6, even having the battery+screen size+water proofness penalty.
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Unless you are running the exact same apps on each phone it's very hard to justify a sluggish statement. You can certainly have a rogue app bogging down your phone.
I'd buy the Z3c again as there really isn't anything else to compare it to in the sub 5" category. While I'd like the camera on the S6 I'm not sure I could deal with the decrease in battery life and the overall size..as well as TouchWiz.
I saw this on ebay which is really cheap, i don't know if its some deal or sale, do y'all think its worth it? Here is the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XZ3D58...858?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4e0b155a
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XZ3D58...929?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item487f6513b9
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XZ3D58...931?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item487f6513bb
The Z3c is a decent enough phone that feels snappy, is the perfect size and has amazing battery life, but it has its quirks . If I were in the market today I'd wait to see what the Galaxy S6 Mini brings to the table. I might even sell my Z3c if the S6 Mini packs as much performance as the regular S6.
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I saw this on ebay which is really cheap, i don't know if its some deal or sale, do y'all think its worth it? Here is the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XZ3D58...858?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4e0b155a
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XZ3D58...929?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item487f6513b9
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-XZ3D58...931?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item487f6513bb
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These are Seller refurbished, not factory refurbs either. I personally wouldn't chance it, but thats up to you. Also it states that there could be signs of use. I'd either buy new or keep an eye out on swappa.
I've been debating on getting a z3c myself but i might wait for z3+c possibly even s6 mini. Its a tough call.
The problem with Samsung is that their devices is always very "tall", because of the hardware buttons, plus no sdcard, no water proof...
maybe the camera will be a plus.
Im going to buy the Z3C. I made up my mind
Now I struggle where to buy it from.
eranyanay said:
The problem with Samsung is that their devices is always very "tall", because of the hardware buttons, plus no sdcard, no water proof...
maybe the camera will be a plus.
Im going to buy the Z3C. I made up my mind
Now I struggle where to buy it from.
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Not sure where you are located but amazon and fleabay seem to have some of the best prices on new device.
I'm itching to buy one myself and kills me that there is no word on when to expect the z3+c. I think id rather have the new version but it will also come with a higher premium as well. My guess would be Sept release
Things that bother me most about the z3c are poor indoor shots, cap over charging port, and the docking pins on the side.
Don't hold your breath for a Z3c+ to be released. Mini/Compact phones are going the way of the Dodo Bird (sadly). Get the Z3C now or possibly even the Samsung Alpha. The Galaxy S6 mini could be awesome (minus touchwiz) or it could be crippled like the previous mini versions have been. If you can wait, do so, so you won't have any regrets. The price will only get lower.
I bought my 1st in November white color, Sold it to some1 last month and bought green one. Giving it to my wife next month and again buying new white one next month. Its the perfect phone.
INFRNL said:
Not sure where you are located but amazon and fleabay seem to have some of the best prices on new device.
I'm itching to buy one myself and kills me that there is no word on when to expect the z3+c. I think id rather have the new version but it will also come with a higher premium as well. My guess would be Sept release
Things that bother me most about the z3c are poor indoor shots, cap over charging port, and the docking pins on the side.
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Here in Portugal most of stores aren't getting more Z3C.
I asked about 3 or 4 stores and they either say they don't have stock for some months or that the device was discontinued, that's why I bought it now.
Best prices here are around 256-370eur on unknow stores, but on orange (it's a store from expansys group) at 389eur (discount code deal10). On physical stores the best price I saw was 411 or 550eur with the sony smartwatch.
On international stores like dvdandorra you can get it at 339eur .
Hey guys I'm about to buy a refurbished Xperia Z from Amazon, but I'd like you guys to give me some advice. Do you recommend me? My main concerns are battery, display(they say blacks are grayish), camera and sound. I come from a galaxy s3 and lumia 640 XL(maybe someone has/had one of these smartphones and could give me some thoughts). I suppose the performance is great. I also noticed the device has some pretty good community and development(which the s3 lacks a bit)-which is also very important to me... am I right? Also, how does AOSP-based lollipop(may I dare and also say marshmallow ) run on it? Sorry guys for too many questions and also sorry for my english.
Best regards!!
What can I say...
FIRST- if you're buying it for $100 or less maybe it is till a good deal, otherwise maybe it is better to see at other low-to-mid-range
SECOND- yes, the performance is good, even better with lollipop, screen looks better now (maybe sonybravia got better, maybe because lollipop has more white in it and the white is being displayed better), but anyway you have to UNDERCLOCK it in order to get a decent battery life
THIRD- battery life is very disappointing, you HAVE to underclock it and root it and greenify it to get any good battery life, unless you can charge it every 12 hours
FOURTH - the device is getting older and so the interest in this device (im talking about support from devs)
FIFTH - the phone gets hot, like really really hot when you're using it playing games (unless you underclock it), and since the back cover is only a adhesive line, when it gets hotter with the help off the Nfc antenna (which is set to push against the backcover) the backcover gets up and looses its waterproofness
SIX- the flaps - the damn flaps- they're everywhere - and you need to open them every-time you charge the phone, put on the headphones, remove the sim, remove the microSD, and they tend to get loose with time especially the one of the charger since you need to charge it frequently
NOW... that I told you about it downsides, its not a bad phone nowdays, it has a big and very beautiful display, connectivity is like the best i've ever tried, performance is pretty good (cpu + gpu ), camera performs really well - especially in macro, dev support for now is good.
Overall for someone who has it I think it can take another one or two years, but I personally would not buy it unless I find it for cheap or cannot buy a used phone. Personally I would look into a HTC M8 or a LG G3, maybe even used.
You decide
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What can I say...
FIRST- if you're buying it for $100 or less maybe it is till a good deal, otherwise maybe it is better to see at other low-to-mid-range
SECOND- yes, the performance is good, even better with lollipop, screen looks better now (maybe sonybravia got better, maybe because lollipop has more white in it and the white is being displayed better), but anyway you have to UNDERCLOCK it in order to get a decent battery life
THIRD- battery life is very disappointing, you HAVE to underclock it and root it and greenify it to get any good battery life, unless you can charge it every 12 hours
FOURTH - the device is getting older and so the interest in this device (im talking about support from devs)
FIFTH - the phone gets hot, like really really hot when you're using it playing games (unless you underclock it), and since the back cover is only a adhesive line, when it gets hotter with the help off the Nfc antenna (which is set to push against the backcover) the backcover gets up and looses its waterproofness
SIX- the flaps - the damn flaps- they're everywhere - and you need to open them every-time you charge the phone, put on the headphones, remove the sim, remove the microSD, and they tend to get loose with time especially the one of the charger since you need to charge it frequently
NOW... that I told you about it downsides, its not a bad phone nowdays, it has a big and very beautiful display, connectivity is like the best i've ever tried, performance is pretty good (cpu + gpu ), camera performs really well - especially in macro, dev support for now is good.
Overall for someone who has it I think it can take another one or two years, but I personally would not buy it unless I find it for cheap or cannot buy a used phone. Personally I would look into a HTC M8 or a LG G3, maybe even used.
You decide
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Thank you so much for your elaborated answer You really made me think about it.
FIRST- it costs me about $160(in a very good condition) and I really can't pay any more than this for a smartphone. It's actually a pretty good deal for what it normally costs in my country. If you/somebody could recommend me a better phone for this price point(taking into consideration the development community)...
SECOND- good to know.
THIRD- well I have to say it sounds dissapointing. Underclocking...doesn't sound that good to me... although I'd have no problem using greenify. 12 hours with 4g on? What's the usage?(heavy...moderate...)
FOURTH- this is the first thing I look when looking for an android device. If it doesn't allow custom ROMs and doesn't have a decent community behind then I don't buy it.
FIFTH- the "gettin really hot" thing sounds also really dissapointin. I'm not a heavy gamer but I do like to play graphic-intensive games from time to time. So is it really that annoing? About the waterproofness... really not important to me.
SIX- pretty annoing huh? Especially the headphones thing. What if you cut them out? You think there'd be any inconvenience on doing this aside from loosing the waterproof thing(and design of course)?
Well... so yeah some bad news for me here. But I can't find a decent phone wich also has community behind for this price. And another which makes me go for it are the 2GB of RAM.
So I wait for some other answers too guys
Also read my first post's EDIT.
Buying today XZ is stupid... seriously.
When I bought my XZ price of Z1compact was almost the same and it still is, its 20$-30$ difference for most of time(New XZ cost about 180$ z1c 200$)
And for that price you can buy WAY better phones, starting from Galaxy S4 to LG G series. And you want to stick to Sony you can get even z1 or used z2
As far as I love this phone I would not recommend it to anyone, battery is below average, camera is worst than my old Arc S, and those cover flaps are pain in the A##
This is best example of phone that look good, but those small bugs in everyday usage make it annoying to use...
And yes I still use it :] Because after using new phones... I found out that most of them are the same: average battery, and looots of small bugs that make them annoying after some time. So I decide to change phones once per 3-4 years...
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For that price NO! Performance with LP is good, camera not so good even with LP. Didnt have issues with overheating, connectivity is good. Screen and colors looks pretty nice for me.
MultiPDev said:
Thank you so much for your elaborated answer You really made me think about it.
FIRST- it costs me about $160(in a very good condition) and I really can't pay any more than this for a smartphone. It's actually a pretty good deal for what it normally costs in my country. If you/somebody could recommend me a better phone for this price point(taking into consideration the development community)...
SECOND- good to know.
THIRD- well I have to say it sounds dissapointing. Underclocking...doesn't sound that good to me... although I'd have no problem using greenify. 12 hours with 4g on? What's the usage?(heavy...moderate...)
FOURTH- this is the first thing I look when looking for an android device. If it doesn't allow custom ROMs and doesn't have a decent community behind then I don't buy it.
FIFTH- the "gettin really hot" thing sounds also really dissapointin. I'm not a heavy gamer but I do like to play graphic-intensive games from time to time. So is it really that annoing? About the waterproofness... really not important to me.
SIX- pretty annoing huh? Especially the headphones thing. What if you cut them out? You think there'd be any inconvenience on doing this aside from loosing the waterproof thing(and design of course)?
Well... so yeah some bad news for me here. But I can't find a decent phone wich also has community behind for this price. And another which makes me go for it are the 2GB of RAM.
So I wait for some other answers too guys
Also read my first post's EDIT.
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Well,
ONE - if you want a phone with good Dev community support and with that budget you'll have to take a look at ex-flagship devices, like HTC One M7 (this one remains IMHO one of the best devices ever), LG G2(very good camera from what I've been told, and powerful cpu), Samsung Galaxy S4(well because it is a Samsung and everybody has one so many developers...)
THREE - Underclock means you lower the frequency of the Cpu (example. it goes from 1.5 Ghz quad-core to 1.1 Ghz quad-core), I like more uncerclock than greenify, and underclocking at 1.1 Ghz in my opinion gives the best performance/battery life/heat ratio. Usage is normal, 1 hour browsing; 1 hour listening to songs (in 3g, even when 4g is available I disable it); 1 hour 9gag and gets at evening with 30-35%...
FOUR - many custom roms for now, and quality is really good, im using currently the 5.1.1 modified and runs pretty good.
FIVE- when you underclock (which I recommend!) you give your device better battery life but also it heats less. If you don't mind the waterproofness then it's better because I wouldn't call Waterproof a really thin bezel of adhesive (They're crazy !!!)
SIX- yeah, they're annoying but anyway you can live with that, and design is really good and would be a shame if you removed them.
So my list woud be;
1.Htc One m7
2.Lg g2
3.Samsung S4 or Xperia Z
(and btw where do you live? maybe i can see smth for you)
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For that price NO! Performance with LP is good, camera not so good even with LP. Didnt have issues with overheating, connectivity is good. Screen and colors looks pretty nice for me.
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Well it seems the camera is not that good as I thought. Do you think moto g 2/3 has better camera? Although they only have 1GB or RAM.
MultiPDev said:
Well it seems the camera is not that good as I thought. Do you think moto g 2/3 has better camera? Although they only have 1GB or RAM.
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As an XZ owner i would definitely recommend you to go with Moto G2/3. Beside better camera there will be MM support for both the 2gen and 3gen Moto, while not for XZ.
aaronkatrini said:
Well,
ONE - if you want a phone with good Dev community support and with that budget you'll have to take a look at ex-flagship devices, like HTC One M7 (this one remains IMHO one of the best devices ever), LG G2(very good camera from what I've been told, and powerful cpu), Samsung Galaxy S4(well because it is a Samsung and everybody has one so many developers...)
THREE - Underclock means you lower the frequency of the Cpu (example. it goes from 1.5 Ghz quad-core to 1.1 Ghz quad-core), I like more uncerclock than greenify, and underclocking at 1.1 Ghz in my opinion gives the best performance/battery life/heat ratio. Usage is normal, 1 hour browsing; 1 hour listening to songs (in 3g, even when 4g is available I disable it); 1 hour 9gag and gets at evening with 30-35%...
FOUR - many custom roms for now, and quality is really good, im using currently the 5.1.1 modified and runs pretty good.
FIVE- when you underclock (which I recommend!) you give your device better battery life but also it heats less. If you don't mind the waterproofness then it's better because I wouldn't call Waterproof a really thin bezel of adhesive (They're crazy !!!)
SIX- yeah, they're annoying but anyway you can live with that, and design is really good and would be a shame if you removed them.
So my list woud be;
1.Htc One m7
2.Lg g2
3.Samsung S4 or Xperia Z
(and btw where do you live? maybe i can see smth for you)
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It seems the decision is getting harder and harder, although I already bought it because I don't wanna loose the deal. It's not available anymore at this price after buying it. I'm waiting for it to arrive in about two days I'll test it and if it doesn't satisfy me I'll return it.
ONE - Those devices are about $50 more expensive.
THREE - Maybe underclock could do the job, but will it still run smooth at lets say 1.2ghz? Anyway I think for the usage you described the battery doesn't sound that bad.
FOUR - Yeah, I'm looking at the hacking section and I'm stunned
FIVE - well, I'll happily underclock it if it doesn't affect performance too much. Maybe setting to the normal clock when gaming. And for the waterproofness thing... I'm shocked Anyway... I don't mind.
SIX - I guess...
From those devices you mentioned the only one I can afford is the Xperia Z. I really can't pay more than that for a device.
So, do you think I should buy a low end device from this or last year like the moto g 2014? I'm scared of the 1GB of RAM.
I live in Spain and price is a bit high here in Europe. I can buy from Amazon.es/fr/de/it... but I think I only have two options: buy a low-end device with no support from community or an exflagship device with support like the Xperia Z. I also think having 2GB of RAM is important right? I can't spend more than 150€/$160... ad I guess I'm asking too much from a device for this price. I really appreciate your help.
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As an XZ owner i would definitely recommend you to go with Moto G2/3. Beside better camera there will be MM support for both the 2gen and 3gen Moto, while not for XZ.
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Isn't 1GB of RAM too low nowadays?
Akinaro said:
Buying today XZ is stupid... seriously.
When I bought my XZ price of Z1compact was almost the same and it still is, its 20$-30$ difference for most of time(New XZ cost about 180$ z1c 200$)
And for that price you can buy WAY better phones, starting from Galaxy S4 to LG G series. And you want to stick to Sony you can get even z1 or used z2
As far as I love this phone I would not recommend it to anyone, battery is below average, camera is worst than my old Arc S, and those cover flaps are pain in the A##
This is best example of phone that look good, but those small bugs in everyday usage make it annoying to use...
And yes I still use it :] Because after using new phones... I found out that most of them are the same: average battery, and looots of small bugs that make them annoying after some time. So I decide to change phones once per 3-4 years...
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Unfortunately I can't afford those devices. I barely can afford the Xperia Z because I found a good deal.
MultiPDev said:
Isn't 1GB of RAM too low nowadays?
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It all depends of usage but i wouldn't worry about it so much. Motorola comes with almost pure Android.
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It all depends of usage but i wouldn't worry about it so much. Motorola comes with almost pure Android.
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Thanks, I'm considering the moto g 2.
MultiPDev said:
Thanks, I'm considering the moto g 2.
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Moto G (2nd generation) doesn't stand a chance to Xperia Z!
XZ has better specs, better screen, better CPU, more Ram, more internal memory ecc.
Yes, the Moto G (2nd generation) is being updated to Marshmallow but really with all the support from the Dev's we can still get unofficial AOSP Marshmallow Roms.
PS.: one more thing, I currently live in Italy and in big cities it is really easy to find used phones from people that sell them at a local website. I've been checking the prices for some time because I wanted to get a better phone and phones like the LG G3 go as low as 200 euro. Htc One M7 can be found for 150 euro in really good condition, one thing is that you don't have warranty, only if they give you the bill of the phone, then it is as you had bought it(be careful though not giving you a printed bill from the internet.) if you can live with that, that would get you a really good phone with low money.
aaronkatrini said:
Moto G (2nd generation) doesn't stand a chance to Xperia Z!
XZ has better specs, better screen, better CPU, more Ram, more internal memory ecc.
Yes, the Moto G (2nd generation) is being updated to Marshmallow but really with all the support from the Dev's we can still get unofficial AOSP Marshmallow Roms.
PS.: one more thing, I currently live in Italy and in big cities it is really easy to find used phones from people that sell them at a local website. I've been checking the prices for some time because I wanted to get a better phone and phones like the LG G3 go as low as 200 euro. Htc One M7 can be found for 150 euro in really good condition, one thing is that you don't have warranty, only if they give you the bill of the phone, then it is as you had bought it(be careful though not giving you a printed bill from the internet.) if you can live with that, that would get you a really good phone with low money.
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Yeah, XZ specs are really impressive for me, but the problems mentioned worry me. The screen seems a bit poor to me from what I read. Maybe the Moto G has a better screen and battery(camera also? I doubt it). Anyway... the XZ is on its way and I can't wait to test it!!!
The biggest problem I have with buying a used phone from people is, aside from the warranty- which is also important, the fact that I can't return it if it doesn't satisfy me. Thank God for Amazon!! lol :victory:
Hey what about speakers sound?
Yeah amazon has its benefits.
Sound speakers? Hah! That tiny little thing that barely makes a sound? ?
aaronkatrini said:
Yeah amazon has its benefits.
Sound speakers? Hah! That tiny little thing that barely makes a sound? ��
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Disappointing. It seems the device has lots of flaws.
MultiPDev said:
Unfortunately I can't afford those devices. I barely can afford the Xperia Z because I found a good deal.
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In that case welcome to the club
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In that case welcome to the club
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Thanks buddy I hope I stay here for long
aaronkatrini said:
What can I say...
FIRST- if you're buying it for $100 or less maybe it is till a good deal, otherwise maybe it is better to see at other low-to-mid-range
SECOND- yes, the performance is good, even better with lollipop, screen looks better now (maybe sonybravia got better, maybe because lollipop has more white in it and the white is being displayed better), but anyway you have to UNDERCLOCK it in order to get a decent battery life
THIRD- battery life is very disappointing, you HAVE to underclock it and root it and greenify it to get any good battery life, unless you can charge it every 12 hours
FOURTH - the device is getting older and so the interest in this device (im talking about support from devs)
FIFTH - the phone gets hot, like really really hot when you're using it playing games (unless you underclock it), and since the back cover is only a adhesive line, when it gets hotter with the help off the Nfc antenna (which is set to push against the backcover) the backcover gets up and looses its waterproofness
SIX- the flaps - the damn flaps- they're everywhere - and you need to open them every-time you charge the phone, put on the headphones, remove the sim, remove the microSD, and they tend to get loose with time especially the one of the charger since you need to charge it frequently
NOW... that I told you about it downsides, its not a bad phone nowdays, it has a big and very beautiful display, connectivity is like the best i've ever tried, performance is pretty good (cpu + gpu ), camera performs really well - especially in macro, dev support for now is good.
Overall for someone who has it I think it can take another one or two years, but I personally would not buy it unless I find it for cheap or cannot buy a used phone. Personally I would look into a HTC M8 or a LG G3, maybe even used.
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in my country a NEW xperia z costs around 280-300 euro, i think people still prefer it
hey guys.
so basically what I am using right now is HTC one M7, with the pink tint issue, I also have the lenovo p70 but in an attempt to root it it kinda got messed up not to mention that the HTC one M7 is better in every espect so. . the pink tint is really starting to get over my nerve, there was alot of moments where I really needed to take a pic of something or a group pic and the pink thingy totally ruined the experience. I can finally afford to get a new phone, a TRUE FLAGSHIP PHONE after the M7.
here is the catch the HTC one 10 and Huaewei p9 are both available locally and their prices are. with the current currency exchange.
the HTC one 780$
Huawei P9 480$
yes its really cheap here compared to the prices in europe, thats why I'm seriously considering the P9, my sister has the ascend G7 and its really nice and not bad at all, way nicer than the lenovo p70.
ideally I want to get the htc one 10 but having to deal with the pink tint issue I really want to get a smartphone with a good camera this time since seeing the reviews on the htc one 10 its camera is not really on par with the competition, the another reason why I'm still thinking about the p7 is the 3gb Ram instead of 4gb Ram at least whats available here. I really want to get a smartphone that would last me the next 2 or 3 years. also don't even get me talking about the samsung galaxy s7 since its priced at 1000$ here, just ridiculous.
so what do u guys think I should do.
P9 is very fast phone and it doesnt lag at all and the camera is good too but samsung and LG camera's better that p9
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Well here's the thing, if you go to the p9 forum and ask if you should get the p9 people will probably tell you yes
You want/need one right now so why wait? Of course there will be better devices but the real question is what features are important to you. IMHO smartphones are pretty much figured out by now and the differences between generations are minimal. After the xperia z3c I wanted something:
-not out of glass
-about 5" screen
-a cool camera
-sd slot
-USB C
-flat back, no camera bump
-resolution not higher than 1080p
And money is an issue for me too so.... the p9 is only 500 francs here (=500$), it's just the perfect device for my needs. I suggest you make a list like this and see what devices match most of your needs.
I'd say the p9 offers the best price/performance ratio of any smartphone out there right now. Maybe the one+ three can rival it when it comes out.
Just a question, P9 Lite or Honor 7 people?
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P9 is very fast phone and it doesnt lag at all and the camera is good too but samsung and LG camera's better that p9
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In terms of camera, I find the P9's camera to be excellent in good to average light and not so good in low light! One other area the the S7 is better is faster camera startup time and less shutter lag.
I think most of these issues can be addressed with a software fix, but not sure how good Huawei is with updates.
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hey guys.
so basically what I am using right now is HTC one M7, with the pink tint issue, I also have the lenovo p70 but in an attempt to root it it kinda got messed up not to mention that the HTC one M7 is better in every espect so. . the pink tint is really starting to get over my nerve, there was alot of moments where I really needed to take a pic of something or a group pic and the pink thingy totally ruined the experience. I can finally afford to get a new phone, a TRUE FLAGSHIP PHONE after the M7.
here is the catch the HTC one 10 and Huaewei p9 are both available locally and their prices are. with the current currency exchange.
the HTC one 780$
Huawei P9 480$
yes its really cheap here compared to the prices in europe, thats why I'm seriously considering the P9, my sister has the ascend G7 and its really nice and not bad at all, way nicer than the lenovo p70.
ideally I want to get the htc one 10 but having to deal with the pink tint issue I really want to get a smartphone with a good camera this time since seeing the reviews on the htc one 10 its camera is not really on par with the competition, the another reason why I'm still thinking about the p7 is the 3gb Ram instead of 4gb Ram at least whats available here. I really want to get a smartphone that would last me the next 2 or 3 years. also don't even get me talking about the samsung galaxy s7 since its priced at 1000$ here, just ridiculous.
so what do u guys think I should do.
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Can't tell you take this one or that one, it's up to you but I am/was nearly in the same situation, here's my situation atm:
I've been using the M7 for 3 years now and I'm in love with the design still now. I also got the purple tint issue with the camera but within the legal guarantee period I managed to get it replaced by HTC.
But unfortunately I got some battery issue with it for several months now(it shut's off around 25/30%). I sent it to China to get the battery replaced.
I expected better design from HTC but the 10's design is not really my cup of tea (too far from M7 and not in a better way imho). I already manipulated both devices ( 10 and P9 ) and the 10 didn't attracted me at all. The P9 on the other hand seemed gorgeous to me(titanium grey with the black camera bar atleast). And honestly that's the only reason I choose the P9 over the HTC 10.
Sometimes you can say if it's about the price, get the cheapest even if the one that cost more can give you better things though you're going to change it soon.
In my case this doesn't really apply. The reason is I don't care about the price as I tend to keep my phone more than 1 or 2 years. I never really chose my smartphones because it was cheaper than another or because I wanted to show off my high priced phone. If one device catch my eyes I look for their overall performance. If it's good enough I try them to decide if I keep it or not.
So here I'm for two weeks now with the P9 . I got back my M7 too monday aaaand it still rocks
I ordered the P9 on amazon(~550€) to try it for 30 days. Now I've the choice to keep the M7 with it's brand new battery or the P9.
As I still don't know which one to keep, if I had to compare with the M7 here's some of plus points for me, it's personal (keep in mind that the m7 is a 2013 flagship and the P9 is a 2016 flagship, three years separates them) :
The fingerprint reader, blazing fast, can keep secure apps from friends/family w/o having to type password or whatever.
Slimmer.
Almost same size(little bit taller) as the M7, I don't really feel the size difference.
Fully charged in 90 minutes with a quick charge 3.0 charger. The M7 with the same charger takes up to 160 minutes.
Overall battery life (though there's 700 mA difference between the two devices so I guess it's to be expected). I can go out without to carry a powerbank with me( for now atleast)
Battery drain almost nonexistent compared to my M7.
I can finally zoom on pictures I take ( :victory: ) and they are enough good for smartphone photography.
If you're a Sense fan you can get it on the P9 too from here some says . I personally used Nova launcher on my M7 so the experience is almost the same for me.
Can't feel any weight difference neither
etc
As you can see, no real plus point that can help me decide to abandon my loyal M7. Except two things : the fingerprint reader and the battery life.
If I had to add something in your choice between the P9 and the 10:
For me, the power we get nowadays in our flagship smartphones is rarely used to it's full potential. Thus no need to go grab the most powerful processor with the most gigs of ram IF the rom/system is well tweaked imho.
Games on mobile is ****ty ! Only time pass/loss games are worth playing on a smartphone. And that's because there's no physical button (don't tell me you can plug/connect a controller, you ever tried play a game on your smartphone on the subway with a controller?). If you want a beast that can play every game you can throw at it, play it on your portable console which has the required physical buttons and specs or better just play it on a console or pc
The HTC's new UltraPixel technology is still not on point trust me and the cameras are smartphone cameras. End of discussion. If you really need good pictures, go get a good compact(around 600€) or a dslr because there's physics barrier that neither HTC neither HUAWEI can break.
They have both the same size battery, again it depends on the tweaks.
Maybe with the 10 you'll get updates sooner(good) as HTC tend to become nexus phones by diminishing the Sense footprint and become more stock(not so good imo) with the new Sense interface.
You might get a better community support with the HTC than the HUAWEI.
bla bla bla bla bla bla
That's all I can say about these two and I think I can be applied to almost all other flagship of this year(, last year, ... :crying: )
Maybe my reply can help you, maybe not. Just listen to your heart :angel:
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Just a question, P9 Lite or Honor 7 people?
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I'd say Honor 7 but it tends to be old ( depends of the pov oc) so why not wait to see what brings the Honor 8?
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Maybe my reply can help you, maybe not. Just listen to your heart :angel:
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1st of all thanks alot for your long and detailed reply, I wholeheartedly appreciate all the effort u put into writing all this, and it helped me alot especially the part where u said that a smartphone will last you 2 years or more so that price is not an issue. I liked that alot
2nd sorry for taking along time to reply to you, forgot to turn on E-mail notification for this thread.
3rdly after doing some research and the fact that a relative is mine is coming from the UK after 30 days I have a good chance of buying a phone of Ebay or amazon.co.uk and sending it to her so she bring it with her after testing it of course.
there is a comparison on youtube between the P9 and s7 camera, the P9 selfie cam comes on top but the back camera is better in the galaxy s7, and to be honest paying 500$ for a phone with 3gb of ram is not justified for me.
now I'm considering to candidates the unlocked S6 active which I can get for 330$ in UK and the asus zenfone max which is 180$, a weaker phone but with a massive battery which appeals greatly to me.
I don't think I'll ever get the htc 10 since its 700$ and its just not justified, too expensive especially when there are plenty of candidates that do the same stuff for far less. whatever I choose I'll update the thread with pics and thoughts, cheers
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to be honest paying 500$ for a phone with 3gb of ram is not justified for me.
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Sorry if this comes across as rude, but I've got to ask this. What the hell are you doing with your phone if you feel like you "need" more than 3gb of RAM? I mean I get it, it's better in general to have more because why not, but in my daily use, where I never close an app on my phone, I always have 1-1,5gb of RAM free. Now, granted I don't game on my phone at all because mobile games are not worth it (for me), but otherwise my daily use is really heavy and for the past ~1,5 months that I've had this phone I haven't had a single hickup or any hangs or slowdowns whatsoever.
Now, as to your original question in this topic:
I prefer the Huawei really. The camera is fantastic, even though it has its downsides (low-light photos are not that great), but hey, its a smartphone camera. What can you expect? If I need some actual performance photography-wise, I can always take my full frame DSLR with me. If we're talking about aesthetics, I prefer the Huawei since in my opinion it is one of the best-looking phones out there right now. Of course that's highly subjective and all so that really shouldn't affect your decision in any way. All in all, I think the P9 is a great device for it's price and Huawei have clearly exceeded themselves with this one. What I think you should do is actually find some place that you can at least test those devices you're pondering and seeing if you like them, because no matter what someone tells you is "the best phone ever", in the end it comes down to what works for you.
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Sorry if this comes across as rude, but I've got to ask this. What the hell are you doing with your phone if you feel like you "need" more than 3gb of RAM? I mean I get it, it's better in general to have more because why not, but in my daily use, where I never close an app on my phone, I always have 1-1,5gb of RAM free. Now, granted I don't game on my phone at all because mobile games are not worth it (for me), but otherwise my daily use is really heavy and for the past ~1,5 months that I've had this phone I haven't had a single hickup or any hangs or slowdowns whatsoever.
Now, as to your original question in this topic:
I prefer the Huawei really. The camera is fantastic, even though it has its downsides (low-light photos are not that great), but hey, its a smartphone camera. What can you expect? If I need some actual performance photography-wise, I can always take my full frame DSLR with me. If we're talking about aesthetics, I prefer the Huawei since in my opinion it is one of the best-looking phones out there right now. Of course that's highly subjective and all so that really shouldn't affect your decision in any way. All in all, I think the P9 is a great device for it's price and Huawei have clearly exceeded themselves with this one. What I think you should do is actually find some place that you can at least test those devices you're pondering and seeing if you like them, because no matter what someone tells you is "the best phone ever", in the end it comes down to what works for you.
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Thank u for the reply. And u are absolutely right 2gb of ram is more than enough for now.
I just want to update the thread and say that I bought a Zenfone max 2gb ram version. For 230$ couldn't be happier its smooth with marshmallow its camera is adequate (I have DSLR for events) it battery lasts me for 3 days of moderate use, Asus ZenUI is much nicer than htc with alot of helpful features and toggles. Its build quality is premium and I can charge other phone with the coupled USB cable.
As I said I can't justify paying 500$ - 700$ for a flagship that can do what a 200 phone can do, I should mention I don't game on mobile so that cut down on the cost. Also for some reason I find the zenfone touch more responsive than htc one.
Thank u all. Let's see for how long this Asus will last me ?
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Hi everyone.
Need a phone for my wife. Hers was lost ):
Thought of this or a Xiaomi one.
I like that this one has CM build.
How do U guys like this phone (even on stock rom)?
Would you recommend it?
Basic everyday usages. PS - how's the camera?
Thanks so much!
wont recommend for the camera, rest the performance & battery is huge and efficient... I keep iphone 7 for camera/snapchat/etc
No, not at all. After about 10 days I got airplane mode issue that can't be solved now, I had only 7 days replacement warranty :/ Camera also not of that level. So don't go for it.
thank you guys
The camera is not good and the fingerprint sensor fails after a few months, but the long battery life is awesome and software support (CM14, NucleaROM) is great. It depends on what you want/need. As a practical, affordable tool, the Zuk Z1's a great phone.
I probably wouldn't consider it if I weren't putting a custom ROM on it, though.
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Yes I would surely recommend you this phone. First thing is that its battery is very efficient. Next is that I liked its front camera 8MP. Performance is also quite good.
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Hi everyone.
Need a phone for my wife. Hers was lost ):
Thought of this or a Xiaomi one.
I like that this one has CM build.
How do U guys like this phone (even on stock rom)?
Would you recommend it?
Basic everyday usages. PS - how's the camera?
Thanks so much!
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Yes I would surely recommend you this phone. First thing is that its battery is very efficient. Next is that I liked its front camera 8MP. Performance is also quite good.
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I do think, though, that if his wife wants a nice camera, she should look for another phone.
I wouldn't recommend it unless you are willing to install a custom rom
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I wouldn't recommend it unless you are willing to install a custom rom
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What's your problem with this phone and why are you only talking about getting custom roms???
I have my ZUK1 since more than a year as a daily driver. Travelled the world with it using its dual sim function to the fullest. Use my fingerprint reader every day and has not failed nor can I confirm the other problems people are "experiencing".
I do read a lot here and can only assume that a lot of the "problems" are self inflicted, flashing and or unlocking/rooting while they don't have a clue what they are doing...:silly:
My phone is stock COS12.1 since day 1.
About the camera...its not the best but for the money you pay descent enough.
I have also a NOTE 4 and can say the ZUK1 it beats the Samsung with ease and that for less than half the price.
And if you are scared reading about problems with a phone, please do yourself a favour and go and read on the Samsung NOTE 4 section...that's suppose to be a flagship phone!
Would I buy the ZUK1 again? YES, for the 200€ I paid more than a year ago it has fulfilled all its promises and is still going strong...but then again thinking about it, maybe its better that you buy another phone as I am sure I bought the ONLY good ZUK1 ever build!
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What's your problem with this phone and why are you only talking about getting custom roms???
I have my ZUK1 since more than a year as a daily driver. Travelled the world with it using its dual sim function to the fullest. Use my fingerprint reader every day and has not failed nor can I confirm the other problems people are "experiencing".
I do read a lot here and can only assume that a lot of the "problems" are self inflicted, flashing and or unlocking/rooting while they don't have a clue what they are doing...:silly:
My phone is stock COS12.1 since day 1.
About the camera...its not the best but for the money you pay descent enough.
I have also a NOTE 4 and can say the ZUK1 it beats the Samsung with ease and that for less than half the price.
And if you are scared reading about problems with a phone, please do yourself a favour and go and read on the Samsung NOTE 4 section...that's suppose to be a flagship phone!
Would I buy the ZUK1 again? YES, for the 200€ I paid more than a year ago it has fulfilled all its promises and is still going strong...but then again thinking about it, maybe its better that you buy another phone as I am sure I bought the ONLY good ZUK1 ever build!
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I have my zuk z1 since October last year and flashed a rom a few weeks ago cause of all the problems with the standard software, yes I did try a factory reset to see if it solves my problems wich it didn't. The hardware of this phone is good enough the only problem I have is that my fingerprint scanner doesn't work anymore. The biggest problem is the software, it's buggy, slow, still runs on lollipop and the last security update is form June
cfds said:
What's your problem with this phone and why are you only talking about getting custom roms???
I have my ZUK1 since more than a year as a daily driver. Travelled the world with it using its dual sim function to the fullest. Use my fingerprint reader every day and has not failed nor can I confirm the other problems people are "experiencing".
I do read a lot here and can only assume that a lot of the "problems" are self inflicted, flashing and or unlocking/rooting while they don't have a clue what they are doing...:silly:
My phone is stock COS12.1 since day 1.
About the camera...its not the best but for the money you pay descent enough.
I have also a NOTE 4 and can say the ZUK1 it beats the Samsung with ease and that for less than half the price.
And if you are scared reading about problems with a phone, please do yourself a favour and go and read on the Samsung NOTE 4 section...that's suppose to be a flagship phone!
Would I buy the ZUK1 again? YES, for the 200€ I paid more than a year ago it has fulfilled all its promises and is still going strong...but then again thinking about it, maybe its better that you buy another phone as I am sure I bought the ONLY good ZUK1 ever build!
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Lolipop is pathetic, with default operating system screen was way too yellowish (even after customizing colors), finger print button wasn't working as home button, too old operating system the default one is.
I also won't recommend, even if you he goes with it I'll recommend custom rom.
Phone is great, really a value for money device. I was one of the first that took the risk to buy it more than 1.5year ago, but it turned out it was the best choice. ZUK Z1 still going strong in 2017.
Ta3iapxHs said:
Phone is great, really a value for money device. I was one of the first that took the risk to buy it more than 1.5year ago, but it turned out it was the best choice. ZUK Z1 still going strong in 2017.
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So you bought the second good ZUK Z1 ever produced?!
I agree, good value for money! Has the best GPS I ever encountered in a smartphone...
When I unpacked my "brand new" phone more than a year ago it had (still has) a small nick in the frame next to the USB charging point, that's how it came off the production line. Got the phone off ebay.de and decided it wasn't wort the hassle to get is shipped back and replaced. Lenovo probably "marked" the few good phones...:laugh:
Hi all, I loved my p20 pro however i cracked both sides of my phone. It will cost me around $300 for fix it my self. Screen back and tools. Should i just sell it. I could not find any other better phone than mine:/
I would fix it. You can not buy anything better for that price.
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XxReApErxX said:
I would fix it. You can not buy anything better for that price.
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Thank you new one about $650 i am selling ebay
XxReApErxX said:
I would fix it. You can not buy anything better for that price.
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Hey you should check out sony xperia 1
It is dope
fix it first, then sell it, then buy something u desired
zurhuho said:
Hi all, I loved my p20 pro however i cracked both sides of my phone. It will cost me around $300 for fix it my self. Screen back and tools. Should i just sell it. I could not find any other better phone than mine:/
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I'd say it depends, if i loved this phone that much i would 100% get it fixed, probably add insurance and do it that way, but if i didn't like many of us don't, then i would check to see what price i would get, the 6T is a great alternative at the moment and it's coming down in price.
But it's up to you.
Check the sale price in current state, then fix cost vs for sale price after it's fixed. If it's worth your time and trouble then go for it.
Personally i'd explore the insurance side of things, may be a cost worthy alternative vs $300, I personally wouldn't do it and i'm pretty good at stripping phones, you have waterproofing and other stuff to consider, put it on the insurers toes instead.
Monthly premium and 1 excess fee will be less than $300.
Then i'd rationalise the money i've saved to be spent on a phone i actually want, personally i'd say the 6T unless you can wait for the 7 which will be around £499 - £550 for the 128GB variant.
Nothing else stands out to me these days that will have great development and a monster chipset / feature set.
Your call pal.
Let us know what you end up doing.
https://swappa.com/mobile/price/huawei-p20-pro
Swappa has the device at a solid resale price, so around $500 - $530
I'd sell it for $500 for a quick sale depending on it's current state / boxed / accessories etc.
Well i cancelled the listing i will Keep It I like my phone.
Thank you yall all comments i couldn't find better alternative than my phone. Only i see xperia x1 because new cinama futures however battery is 3300 amp i am barely surviving with huawei p20 pro battery life.
zurhuho said:
Well i cancelled the listing i will Keep It I like my phone.
Thank you yall all comments i couldn't find better alternative than my phone. Only i see xperia x1 because new cinama futures however battery is 3300 amp i am barely surviving with huawei p20 pro battery life.
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Take into account the processor too. I got much better battery life consistently on my 1+5 by someway.
10 hours daily no problem.. Vs 7-9 on the pro.
3300 Vs 4000
Believe me the battery size is not the only factor
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Take into account the processor too. I got much better battery life consistently on my 1+5 by someway.
10 hours daily no problem.. Vs 7-9 on the pro.
3300 Vs 4000
Believe me the battery size is not the only factor
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Yes you right i had xz premium sony battery saver work amazing but background process limit less than Huawei i am using more app than sony
zurhuho said:
Yes you right i had xz premium sony battery saver work amazing but background process limit less than Huawei i am using more app than sony
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Personally I'd never buy another Sony, Huawei, Samsung, LG or Nokia device.
For numerous reasons.
HTC (so long as they get back on track) best Devs and some truly superb phones albeit with faults, they just feel like they're unique and I like that.
OnePlus, owned the 1+5, it's hard not to love it, so fast, so efficient, it was just a lack of OIS which killed me, everything else was brilliant.
Pixel, Xiaomi, essential, never owned any of them but they look alright, so long as Google put more than 4g of ram in their phones.
Personally I think Motorola are going to make a comeback, their budget phones are incredible for the price.
dladz said:
Personally I'd never buy another Sony, Huawei, Samsung, LG or Nokia device.
For numerous reasons.
HTC (so long as they get back on track) best Devs and some truly superb phones albeit with faults, they just feel like they're unique and I like that.
OnePlus, owned the 1+5, it's hard not to love it, so fast, so efficient, it was just a lack of OIS which killed me, everything else was brilliant.
Pixel, Xiaomi, essential, never owned any of them but they look alright, so long as Google put more than 4g of ram in their phones.
Personally I think Motorola are going to make a comeback, their budget phones are incredible for the price.
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I am thinking xperia x1
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I am thinking xperia x1
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Good luck getting the camera working perfect on non Xperia ROMs.
DRM is nasty on Sony phones, not to mention the lack of development.
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Good luck getting the camera working perfect on non Xperia ROMs.
DRM is nasty on Sony phones, not to mention the lack of development.
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Every phone have cons and pros however end of day it your choice.
No matter what mercedes always mercedes. It can not be honda.
I had a P20 Pro, sold it for a OnePlus 6 which I didn't like. Sold the 1+6, got a Samsung S9 which had terrible battery life (charging it twice a day FFS).
Just picked up another P20 Pro today, used it hard the last 8 hours installing my apps and doing 4 system updates and it's still above 50% battery. It's very hard to beat the P20 Pro without spending a fortune.
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I had a P20 Pro, sold it for a OnePlus 6 which I didn't like. Sold the 1+6, got a Samsung S9 which had terrible battery life (charging it twice a day FFS).
Just picked up another P20 Pro today, used it hard the last 8 hours installing my apps and doing 4 system updates and it's still above 50% battery. It's very hard to beat the P20 Pro without spending a fortune.
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Yes i totally agree with you thats why i cancelled my ebay listing. I am going to stick with my p20 pro.
After my xZ premium thisn was only suitable upgrade based on my daily use