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Disappointed with pricing outside google play

You may or may not have heard about this but if you live in a country where purchasing devices from google play isn't available(which is like 98% of the countries),you will have to pay a whopping 549 euros for the 16gb nexus 4(that's the pricing in Austria,dunno about the rest of the world but it will most likely be the same).I will actually have to pay more than double the original price of a phone that got 16gb non expandable storage.And if I bought it online,I will have to sacrifice local warranty.It just looks like google is doing their best to force me not to get their nexus devices.There's just a big hype about how cheap the nexus 4 is with cutting-edge hardware ignoring the fact that only people living in certain countries can get it for that price.Why can't google be fair ? Guess I might end up getting Gnote 2,at least it got a micro SD slot.

Wow. This sucks. Nice find! For that price, I'd definitely go for a Note II!
(My cousin is in the states so he'll order it for me and send it here to India through my uncle's shipping company - Win win for me!)

+1 Thats annyoing @OP
I'm from Germany ( and may buy 1 for you & send u )
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i am personally ready to be robbed by those retail stores. it sucks but then the price tag wasn't the deciding factor.

Maybe see if someone from another country can buy it from the play store and have them mail it to you? Providing the shipping cost is realistic?

I'll get one from Germany too.
If anyone wants to order for me send me a PM.

I am screwed, since I live in the Netherlands. No Playstore here. Hopefully the online shops will sell against Playstore prices, or less Sucks I can't order from European Playstores btw, so much for European 'shop integration'.

Yep, I can't but devices from the play store here either.... :/ just hope its at a reasonable price or else I'll have to ask someone to buy for me... its not there on expansys yet either
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I think we should wait official pricing for other countries. However, if in Italy the prices will be so high, I'll buy it online from another European country.

gideonMorrison said:
I am screwed, since I live in the Netherlands. No Playstore here. Hopefully the online shops will sell against Playstore prices, or less Sucks I can't order from European Playstores btw, so much for European 'shop integration'.
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Well, it's worth a trip to Germany.
But I have doubts this will really happen. That would be pretty stupid of Google. Look at the price if the nexus tablet. That's also pretty cheap for what it has to offer.
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I completely agree, I live in Chile and the carriers here are just thieves, the galaxy nexus retails here for around 750 USD contract free.
Gladly my brother is going to USA on december and he might get one N4 for me there at a normal price.
Does anyone knows if you can buy a nexus product online? Becouse whenever I try to go to the website says its restricted to my country, I dont know if its possible to shop online outside the US. I wouldnt care not having warranty if I pay 300 box.

tyraelasd said:
I completely agree, I live in Chile and the carriers just are steal money, the galaxy nexus retails here for around 800 USD contract free.
Gladly my brother is going to USA on december and he might get one N4 for me there at a normal price.
Does anyone knows if you can buy a nexus product online? Becouse whenever I try to go to the website says its restricted to my country, I dont know if its possible to shop online outside the US. I wouldnt care not having warranty if I pay 300 box.
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Only selected countries can buy from Google Play Store online.

arzbhatia said:
Wow. This sucks. Nice find! For that price, I'd definitely go for a Note II!
(My cousin is in the states so he'll order it for me and send it here to India through my uncle's shipping company - Win win for me!)
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It's a relief that someone else agrees on getting GNote 2 if I will have to pay the same,thanks ^^ lol.
jader13254 said:
+1 Thats annyoing @OP
I'm from Germany ( and may buy 1 for you & send u )
Sent from my LT18i using xda app-developers app
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Thanks for trying to help but as I mentioned,I won't have warranty this way.And if I discovered any factory defects,it will be impossible to return it back.

i hope it doesn't happen in italy.... i want it to the same price! WTF!

cm0901 said:
I think we should wait official pricing for other countries. However, if in Italy the prices will be so high, I'll buy it online from another European country.
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I think that Google is selling the product below the MSRP because they expect people to post some of those saved euros into producst on the store.
It's 549€ here as well, and also in Sweden as far as i know.

Thank goodness my girlfriend lives in Germany.

It would be awesome if some XDA peeps located in Europe and have access to Playstores could help out their fellow European members

here in Israel i will be thank's full if it will Retail for 600$.

I'm sure it'll come in time. Do you have the N7 yet?

CJHolderUK said:
I'm sure it'll come in time. Do you have the N7 yet?
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Nope,not yet but well LG said that the nexus 4 will be available in the middle east end of november so I assume Egypt is included.Nexus devices do take a long time to be available here.The galaxy nexus for example took freakin 6 months and it was exclusive to vodafone.Asus Egypt said that the nexus 7 should be available in mid october but so far nothing...

All Things Huawei Honor Note 8

Per the advice of senior XDA moderator I'm creating this thread for *All Things* Huawei Honor Note 8 phone. This phone does not yet have a dedicated forum, so you can discuss here anything from development topics, such as rooting, bootloader unlocking (there is a working method already), custom roms/recoveries to exchanging opinions about performance or accessories for this phone, which you like.
Honor Note 8 is currently released in mainland China only. However, Honor stated the phone will have international release soon.
Please note, this thread is *NOT* for Huawei Honor 8, which is completely different phone. Stay on topic and have fun. :good::laugh:
http://www.honor.cn/products/mobile-phones/honor-note8/
6.6 inch Super AMOLED display with 2560 x 1440 (2K) resolution
HiSilicon Kirin955 chipset with Mali-T880 MP4 GPU
4GB RAM (Premium Version)
Up to 128GB ROM (Premium Version) and up to 2TB expendable storage
4500mAh Battery
Dual SIM
Primary camera: 13 MP, f/2.0, autofocus, OIS, dual-LED (dual tone) flash, Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, HDR, panorama. Video recording [email protected]
Front camera: 8 MP
Fingerprint
USB Type-C
Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, WiFi Direct, hotspot
Bluetooth v4.2, A2DP, EDR, LE
GPS: A-GPS, GLONASS/ BDS (market dependant)
FM radio
Marshmallow 6.0.1 with EMUI 4.1

First post by me
I have an old Galaxy Note 3. I'm in the USA on Verizon. I've been drooling over the Honor Note 8 since I first heard of it. It's exactly what I want. I cannot get a straight answer online on several questions.
1. Will it work now on Verizon? Most say no, some say yes.
2. Will it come to the USA soon? Again, I'm getting different answers on this.
3. Are there 'tricks' I can learn to force this phone to work well on Verizon now very well, or should I just wait?
I'd prefer to stay on Verizon, but I'd switch to AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile if I have to in order to use this phone.
I'm not a tech wiz, so I'll need some help here. If you can answer my questions and guide me, I'd sure appreciate it. Thank you very much.

Proud Owner of the Huawei Honor Note 8
Hi All,
So having lived in China for a while and having owned and used Huawei phones in the past (my last Huawei Phone was the massive Mediapad X1), I can testify to the quality and advantages of huawei smartphones.
First, I've had this phone for about a week. I ordered it off of aliexpress. I'm pretty familiar with making purchases from chinese websites and getting technical support from chinese companies and sources so i was pretty confident with making this purchase (I can read/write mandarin). Phone arrived super fast and I was happy with the purchase.
Right now I'm working really hard to root my device. I have already unlocked the bootloader using the dc-unlocker method and it worked perfectly (btw, its cheaper to download the app and pay only 1 usd instead of 4 euros). I'm literally scouring the internet and all the chinese websites for news on different roms, but very little luck thus far. I have downloaded some different versions of the operating system (ver. B017 only, as B018, B019, and B020 are not yet available as far as I've seen) but these versions are not boot versions. So no luck there.
I've also spoken directly with Huawei regarding when they will release the updated factory versions of the operating system for download from the EMUI website. There is no confirmation that they will even release them however, as the answer I received was that Huawei wants to move to a system in which all updates are OTA. I was a bit upset to say the least but we'll see what happens in the future.
For now just enjoying this awesome phone. feel free to ask me any questions.
-chris

JohnnyF118 said:
I have an old Galaxy Note 3. I'm in the USA on Verizon. I've been drooling over the Honor Note 8 since I first heard of it. It's exactly what I want. I cannot get a straight answer online on several questions.
1. Will it work now on Verizon? Most say no, some say yes.
2. Will it come to the USA soon? Again, I'm getting different answers on this.
3. Are there 'tricks' I can learn to force this phone to work well on Verizon now very well, or should I just wait?
I'd prefer to stay on Verizon, but I'd switch to AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile if I have to in order to use this phone.
I'm not a tech wiz, so I'll need some help here. If you can answer my questions and guide me, I'd sure appreciate it. Thank you very much.
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1. You can check on a site called willmyphonework.net
2. You can buy it on ebay
3. Don't know
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toasty32 said:
Hi All,
So having lived in China for a while and having owned and used Huawei phones in the past (my last Huawei Phone was the massive Mediapad X1), I can testify to the quality and advantages of huawei smartphones.
First, I've had this phone for about a week. I ordered it off of aliexpress. I'm pretty familiar with making purchases from chinese websites and getting technical support from chinese companies and sources so i was pretty confident with making this purchase (I can read/write mandarin). Phone arrived super fast and I was happy with the purchase.
Right now I'm working really hard to root my device. I have already unlocked the bootloader using the dc-unlocker method and it worked perfectly (btw, its cheaper to download the app and pay only 1 usd instead of 4 euros). I'm literally scouring the internet and all the chinese websites for news on different roms, but very little luck thus far. I have downloaded some different versions of the operating system (ver. B017 only, as B018, B019, and B020 are not yet available as far as I've seen) but these versions are not boot versions. So no luck there.
I've also spoken directly with Huawei regarding when they will release the updated factory versions of the operating system for download from the EMUI website. There is no confirmation that they will even release them however, as the answer I received was that Huawei wants to move to a system in which all updates are OTA. I was a bit upset to say the least but we'll see what happens in the future.
For now just enjoying this awesome phone. feel free to ask me any questions.
-chris
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Helllo,
I have two questions:
1. What's the audio output like through the headphone 3.5mm jack?
2. What's the camera like?

Racerdude said:
1. You can check on a site called willmyphonework.net
2. You can buy it on ebay
3. Don't know
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Helllo,
I have two questions:
1. What's the audio output like through the headphone 3.5mm jack?
2. What's the camera like?
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To answer your questions:
1. The audio output is excellent. Crisp with perfect amount (not too much I hate that) of base. The volume goes loud enough (using the jack) to hurt my ears, and that's hard to do.
2. The cameras on Huawei phones are usually very good to excellent. This particular phone does not sport Huawei's top camera (I think that might be the Huawei P9 plus or the Mate 8. But again, those phones are much smaller and focus on high quality cameras. This phone's advantages are its size, screen quality, CPU and memory. The camera is very good but definitely not top top quality. It doesn't focus instantaneously for example like some galaxy cameras, but I think it's good enough. I'm not THAT into photography.
3. ALSO**** just so everyone knows, I bought this phone because I wanted to use the latest CAT6 4G LTE speeds in Brazil (where I currently reside) and in China. I'm American though btw. The version I bought in its current form from China does NOT support the LTE bands commonly used by AT&T. Its bands are (1,3,7,38,39,40,and 41). Thus, 3G is the fastest speeds you would get in the US with AT&T. But it will be 4G in Europe, South America and China. If the phone is sold in the US market, Huawei changes the LTE bands to suit the target country's market, so I'm sure the bands for any US or International version of the phone will have different bands.
-chris

JohnnyF118 said:
I have an old Galaxy Note 3. I'm in the USA on Verizon. I've been drooling over the Honor Note 8 since I first heard of it. It's exactly what I want. I cannot get a straight answer online on several questions.
1. Will it work now on Verizon? Most say no, some say yes.
2. Will it come to the USA soon? Again, I'm getting different answers on this.
3. Are there 'tricks' I can learn to force this phone to work well on Verizon now very well, or should I just wait?
I'd prefer to stay on Verizon, but I'd switch to AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile if I have to in order to use this phone.
I'm not a tech wiz, so I'll need some help here. If you can answer my questions and guide me, I'd sure appreciate it. Thank you very much.
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Some corrections/clarifications to what Racerdude and toasty32 said. First, no one will be able to answer questions about Verizon, because Honor did not announce this phone for US market yet, and it also did not pass through FCC certification. Having said that - most likely the answer is No, it will not work on Verizon. Typically, what Huawei, ZTE and other Chinese manufacturers do when they bring phones to North American market - they don't strike a deal with carriers and they don't release carrier branded phones, like Samsung, Apple, LG and others do. If you want to take past behavior of Chinese manufacturers as an indication what Honor will do - they will just release GSM only (no CDMA, hence no Verizon or Sprint) US version of Note 8, with all North American LTE bands enabled, and let people decide whichever GSM carrier they want to use it with. Honor just did this exact thing with Honor 8 phone in US a couple of weeks ago.
What toasty32 said about this Chinese version working in Europe and South America is not completely true - this Chinese EDI-AL10 version has only one overlapping TDD-LTE band 38 with some of South American carriers (most don't use it), and some European countries support LTE bands 3,38,40 so in some Euro regions 4G will be spotty at best, and in many places won't work at all. Here is the list of operating LTE frequencies by country and carrier
US T-Mobile requires LTE bands 2,4,12 (and optional band 17 used by AT&T because FCC requires them to support roaming)
US AT&T requires LTE bands 2,4,5,17 (and optional band 12 used by T-Mobile because FCC requires them to support roaming)

bootloader unlock
toasty32 said:
Right now I'm working really hard to root my device. I have already unlocked the bootloader using the dc-unlocker method and it worked perfectly (btw, its cheaper to download the app and pay only 1 usd instead of 4 euros).
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I've used dc-unlocker before and had to pay 4 euros to read bootloader code. Do you mind explaining what you meant by this, what app are you talking about and how to pay only $1 USD instead, to unlock bootloader?

JohnnyF118 said:
I have an old Galaxy Note 3. I'm in the USA on Verizon. I've been drooling over the Honor Note 8 since I first heard of it. It's exactly what I want. I cannot get a straight answer online on several questions.
1. Will it work now on Verizon? Most say no, some say yes.
2. Will it come to the USA soon? Again, I'm getting different answers on this.
3. Are there 'tricks' I can learn to force this phone to work well on Verizon now very well, or should I just wait?
I'd prefer to stay on Verizon, but I'd switch to AT&T, Sprint, or T-Mobile if I have to in order to use this phone.
I'm not a tech wiz, so I'll need some help here. If you can answer my questions and guide me, I'd sure appreciate it. Thank you very much.
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i've done some research into this and followed up with some other threads with people who bought the phone. Forget the different phone frequency websites, this phone will not get you what you want in the US. No LTE. Some carriers like tmo will get you 3g/3.5g hspa+ but that's the best you'll get and not a smart move. I'm also desperately waiting some any big phone to come with US compatible bands but as it seems now, we're still waiting..

Hi everyone, i write from Italy.
I always loved big smartphones and this would be one of the best right now.
Unfortunately, i think that Honor won't bring in Europe.
I talked to their FB page, and they wrote me :
"Hi Marco, we don't have official news to launch the honor note 8 in Europe. If we have any plans, we will announce at once on our page, thank you - If you buy it from China, Well.. Then the warranty and post-sale service would not apply elsewhere but China" .
I'm a bit disappointed actually, i really don't understand why this amazing phon is sold just in China and they said " We don't know either" ... GOOD

Guys, on the web i saw that the camera sensor is the Sony Imx 278. (Same of P8/Mate S/G8) ...i'm a bit disappointed because i didn't love this camera sensor in the past...what do you think ?

Can you guys update from which seller in Aliexpress you bought from?
I paid for the phone last week and it has been 7 days but no update from the seller. Today I cancelled the order but Aliexpress have rejected it stating Seller has the phone in stock and order cannot be cancelled. The sad thing is Seller is not responding has 40 days (33 now) to ship the order (I did not see this while ordering). I ordered because seller was the Highest/most reputed seller while sorting and had DHL shipping. Any ways to resolve?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...2722895630.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.56.UCIAcX
Edit: Avoid this seller at all costs!

cashif said:
Can you guys update from which seller in Aliexpress you bought from?
I paid for the phone last week and it has been 7 days but no update from the seller. Today I cancelled the order but Aliexpress have rejected it stating Seller has the phone in stock and order cannot be cancelled. The sad thing is Seller is not responding has 40 days (33 now) to ship the order (I did not see this while ordering). I ordered because seller was the Highest/most reputed seller while sorting and had DHL shipping. Any ways to resolve?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ori...2722895630.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.56.UCIAcX
Edit: Avoid this seller at all costs!
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I'd tell Aliexpress to F*** OFF and do a chargeback with your credit card company. People should be allowed to cancel orders, for items which havent shipped, at any time. I'd also recommend to never buy from that marketplace again. Use places like Amazon, or at least eBay, where things are controlled more tightly and these US headquartered businesses will not screw you over without explanation.

My experience with AliExpress and UPDATE on ROOTING
Hi All,
So to answer the question regarding Aliexpress....I purchased from this store/seller here:
.aliexpress.com/store/1802347?spm=2114.13010608.0.126.x0uHsw
and in particular, this product:
.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Huawei-Honor-Note-8-4G-LTE-Mobile-Phone-Kirin-955-Octa-Core-6-6-2K/32714180113.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.129.x0uHsw
I used singapore expedited shipping (super cheap) as it was one of the few options I could use to get expedited shipping to the US considering there was a lithium ion battery being shipped internationally.
I cannot stress how pleased I was with both the seller and the service. I understand that Aliexpress may have a bad reputation because it is a foreign/chinese website and doing business internationally is almost always more difficult that doing business domestically, but that being said, I do want to be fair, and when I do have a good experience, I'll promote it. Like any mass seller website ebay or otherwise there are going to be good merchants and bad ones. Luckily I found a good one.
cheers,
chris
UPDATE:
I was able to finally root this phone with the help of some Chinese programmers (from bbs.xxroot.com <--- the Chinese equivalent of xda developers haha). More details to come.

toasty32 said:
Hi All,
So to answer the question regarding Aliexpress....I purchased from this store/seller here:
.aliexpress.com/store/1802347?spm=2114.13010608.0.126.x0uHsw
and in particular, this product:
.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Huawei-Honor-Note-8-4G-LTE-Mobile-Phone-Kirin-955-Octa-Core-6-6-2K/32714180113.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.129.x0uHsw
I used singapore expedited shipping (super cheap) as it was one of the few options I could use to get expedited shipping to the US considering there was a lithium ion battery being shipped internationally.
I cannot stress how pleased I was with both the seller and the service. I understand that Aliexpress may have a bad reputation because it is a foreign/chinese website and doing business internationally is almost always more difficult that doing business domestically, but that being said, I do want to be fair, and when I do have a good experience, I'll promote it. Like any mass seller website ebay or otherwise there are going to be good merchants and bad ones. Luckily I found a good one.
cheers,
chris
UPDATE:
I was able to finally root this phone with the help of some Chinese programmers (from bbs.xxroot.com <--- the Chinese equivalent of xda developers haha). More details to come.
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Just wanted to point out that Aliexpress has bad reputation not because it is a foreign/chinese website, but because that reputation is well deserved. I personally got scammed for over $300 by that site years ago, and I personally know several people, who got screwed as well. Also, if you do a bit of internet research then like you said - you will discover that marketplace has a bad reputation, and for a good reason - there are plenty of people's testimonies of fraud. Aliexpress is nothing like eBay - scam/fraud rate is orders of magnitude higher.
If you want to take the time and post the root guide for the rooting method you used - I'm sure it'd be much appreciated by a lot of people here, who have or plan to buy this phone. Also, you didn't answer my question from earlier post about how to avoid paying 4 euros to dc-unlocker for unlocking the bootloader.

How can Honor put the same camera of Huawei P8 (Just sufficient) in a phablet with 4gb of Ram DDR4, Kirin 955, QHD Screen....c'mon..

toasty32 said:
Hi All,
So to answer the question regarding Aliexpress....I purchased from this store/seller here:
.aliexpress.com/store/1802347?spm=2114.13010608.0.126.x0uHsw
and in particular, this product:
.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Huawei-Honor-Note-8-4G-LTE-Mobile-Phone-Kirin-955-Octa-Core-6-6-2K/32714180113.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.129.x0uHsw
I used singapore expedited shipping (super cheap) as it was one of the few options I could use to get expedited shipping to the US considering there was a lithium ion battery being shipped internationally.
I cannot stress how pleased I was with both the seller and the service. I understand that Aliexpress may have a bad reputation because it is a foreign/chinese website and doing business internationally is almost always more difficult that doing business domestically, but that being said, I do want to be fair, and when I do have a good experience, I'll promote it. Like any mass seller website ebay or otherwise there are going to be good merchants and bad ones. Luckily I found a good one.
cheers,
chris
UPDATE:
I was able to finally root this phone with the help of some Chinese programmers (from bbs.xxroot.com <--- the Chinese equivalent of xda developers haha). More details to come.
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Damn. That was my preferred seller. While ordering, it showed processing time of 5 days, so decided to skip it and went with the Highest rated seller (Who has/d not mentioned processing time in the listing) and whose feedback was filled with positive reviews about quick shipping.
Apo11on said:
Just wanted to point out that Aliexpress has bad reputation not because it is a foreign/chinese website, but because that reputation is well deserved. I personally got scammed for over $300 by that site years ago, and I personally know several people, who got screwed as well. Also, if you do a bit of internet research then like you said - you will discover that marketplace has a bad reputation, and for a good reason - there are plenty of people's testimonies of fraud. Aliexpress is nothing like eBay - scam/fraud rate is orders of magnitude higher.
If you want to take the time and post the root guide for the rooting method you used - I'm sure it'd be much appreciated by a lot of people here, who have or plan to buy this phone. Also, you didn't answer my question from earlier post about how to avoid paying 4 euros to dc-unlocker for unlocking the bootloader.
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Have purchased more than 75 times from AliExpress (atleast 20 expensive items) and this has been my WORST experience for me. Everytime, Orders were shipped either next day or 2 days after and I generally order expensive items thru DHL/Fedex and have had it with me within 10 days. On the contrary, had very bad experience with ebay- both as seller & buyer- and have completely stopped using it (Lost close to $1200 while selling).
Order Update: Seller has mailed me apologising for delay and stating he will ship ' asap' but Still no commitment- (He replied after I bombarded him with messages)
@chris- Do update with the root method. Am so happy that it has been rooted as one of the reasons I tried cancelling the phone (other than obvious delay) was that you mentioning no root and someone mentioning about it not being launched in Europe

cashif said:
Have purchased more than 75 times from AliExpress (atleast 20 expensive items) and this has been my WORST experience for me. Everytime, Orders were shipped either next day or 2 days after and I generally order expensive items thru DHL/Fedex and have had it with me within 10 days. On the contrary, had very bad experience with ebay- both as seller & buyer- and have completely stopped using it (Lost close to $1200 while selling).
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This sounds a lot like Aliexpress advertisement. I bet it's because you sell there yourself, and want people to use it. I'm glad it allegedly works fine for you, but I myself and a lot of people I know would never go near it. Regardless, this is kind of off topic stuff, not related to Honor Note 8, so I suggest we move on.
If anyone can post a root method, or free/chip bootloader unlock method - that'd be very much appreciated. And if someone car figure out a way to mod NVRAM and unlock additional LTE bands in this Kirin955 chipset - that'd be a home-run!

Apo11on said:
This sounds a lot like Aliexpress advertisement. I bet it's because you sell there yourself, and want people to use it. I'm glad it allegedly works fine for you, but I myself and a lot of people I know would never go near it. Regardless, this is kind of off topic stuff, not related to Honor Note 8, so I suggest we move on.
If anyone can post a root method, or free/chip bootloader unlock method - that'd be very much appreciated. And if someone car figure out a way to mod NVRAM and unlock additional LTE bands in this Kirin955 chipset - that'd be a home-run!
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Just to clarify I used to sell in Ebay not AliExpress and I have no relation/business whatsoever with AliExpress !!

Apo11on said:
This sounds a lot like Aliexpress advertisement. I bet it's because you sell there yourself, and want people to use it. I'm glad it allegedly works fine for you, but I myself and a lot of people I know would never go near it. Regardless, this is kind of off topic stuff, not related to Honor Note 8, so I suggest we move on.
If anyone can post a root method, or free/chip bootloader unlock method - that'd be very much appreciated. And if someone car figure out a way to mod NVRAM and unlock additional LTE bands in this Kirin955 chipset - that'd be a home-run!
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So it sounds like it's been a while since you've actually used AliExpress. If that's true, than I have to say that it has changed and improved a LOT from 5 or even two years ago (not perfect of course). I hate to sound like an advertisement as well though but I do want to be fair. I think you should probably try it again to see for yourself because you're missing out on a lot. But your decision.
In regards to unlocking the bootloader: A little while ago DC-unlocker had a promotion on their website because they had just released their android app on the play store (play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dc.huaweibootloadercodes) and I remember seeing that there was a discount in prices for people who used the app. I took the bait, clicked the link and downloaded the app. Opening up the app on my phone I saw that there was the option to purchase a DC-unlocker account directly for $0.99. This as opposed to buying credits directly from their site. I purchased it and it worked. You guys should definitely try it.
Finally, it cost me a bit to finalize the rooting of my phone (50-100 RMB) especially because I downloaded some software tools from bbs.xxroot.com that they developed to unroot it. Also, it took a LOT of conversations (in mandarin haha) and several painful mistakes to figure out how the hell to root my phone. I am going to describe in a future post exactly what I did in detail but I'm not sure how much it will help people. I'll keep everyone posted.
cheers,
chris
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Note 9 N9600 or N960FD etc for UK use

Hi everyone,
I'm due to upgrade my phone and really keen on the note 9 but to buy in the UK it is costly. I'm looking at buying from the EU but there's a variety of model types with subtle differences in bands.
Please would someone be able to advise me whether for example N9600 or N960FD would be fully compatible with the UK networks?
The N9600 appears to be fully compatible with UK bands but I'm new to buying non UK phones.
Plus if they're both compatible, would one be better than the other?
Thanks in advance

Androiduk2018 said:
Hi everyone,
I'm due to upgrade my phone and really keen on the note 9 but to buy in the UK it is costly. I'm looking at buying from the EU but there's a variety of model types with subtle differences in bands.
Please would someone be able to advise me whether for example N9600 or N960FD would be fully compatible with the UK networks?
The N9600 appears to be fully compatible with UK bands but I'm new to buying non UK phones.
Plus if they're both compatible, would one be better than the other?
Thanks in advance
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Hey, I got the N960F/DS off Ebay for £719, think it is even cheaper now, got it from Switzerland, ordered last Wednesday night about 22:00 and it arrived Monday morning. I will get the link for you now
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Sams...var=601774672008&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
I highly recommend them, unless you find a cheaper option.
Oh, and yeah it works fine haha, I'm on o2, but obviously if it works on there it will work on all. It is also worth mentioning that if you are accepted for paypal credit, you can get it from the link I gave with 4 months %0 interest too

Great to hear. The price is great. Did it come with a UK quick charger?

Androiduk2018 said:
Great to hear. The price is great. Did it come with a UK quick charger?
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Just found this from the same people lol, even cheaper And no it has a foreign charger but they include an adaptor which does work fine and fast charge too, also, if you like, I can give you the voucher code they sent me for a further $10 off, so that's like another £7 ish.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Sams...m=601774672002&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

beta546 said:
Just found this from the same people lol, even cheaper And no it has a foreign charger but they include an adaptor which does work fine and fast charge too, also, if you like, I can give you the voucher code they sent me for a further $10 off, so that's like another £7 ish.
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Yes please, thanks

oh and although the ebay seller I believe is based in china, the phone does come from Switzerland as I said, it got from there to Manchester in about 16 hours...…..Manchester to blackpool…...4 days But still good from abroad, and it came a day earlier than the estimated delivery too.
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Yes please, thanks
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I will get it later as it is in the phones box at my girlfriend's, I will be back there about 8 tonight and will PM you the code. Can't believe it has gone down by £30 in less than a week. I wouldn't wait too long though as it looks like they don't have too many left.

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Hey mate, sorry I think I must have chucked the voucher away with the delivery box and other junk

Have a look on www1.techinthebasket.com - I picked up my previous Note 8 SM-N950F/DS for £633 back in October last year. It was a Taiwan model (BRI) but picked up XEU / BTU CSC when I put my O2 SIM in it and it worked flawlessly. They have Note 9's in now for good prices as well. They only accept PayPal so you're covered. I also picked up a Surface Pro 4 from them a couple of years ago and saved over £200. Well worth a try.

Nice suggestion, thanks

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Nice suggestion, thanks
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Ah, looks like they've only got the Snapdragon version in at the moment - £880 for the SD 512GB/8GB and £629 to £679 dependant on colour for the SD 128GB/6GB is still pretty damn good. Keep checking though, they did have the Exynos versions in for around the same price a few days ago...

Really good prices.
The only thing that's holding me back is to wait for the pixel 3xl. If some of the rumours are true about the Iarge screen, then I might go pixel, but other say it's only 6.1" and has a notch which renders it even smaller when watching film properly.
Thanks for the input so far. Note 9 is in number one spot, just need to compare to the pixel to firm up the choice

The N9600 probably won't work with some UK Cell Providers. You are better off getting the N960FD as that is a GSM device.

Don't think volte or WiFi calling works

iceepyon said:
The N9600 probably won't work with some UK Cell Providers. You are better off getting the N960FD as that is a GSM device.
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nathlynn22 said:
Don't think volte or WiFi calling works
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Correct. So far

beta546 said:
Hey, I got the N960F/DS off Ebay for £719, think it is even cheaper now, got it from Switzerland, ordered last Wednesday night about 22:00 and it arrived Monday morning. I will get the link for you now
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Sams...var=601774672008&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
I highly recommend them, unless you find a cheaper option.
Oh, and yeah it works fine haha, I'm on o2, but obviously if it works on there it will work on all. It is also worth mentioning that if you are accepted for paypal credit, you can get it from the link I gave with 4 months %0 interest too
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Nice find!
After reading the listing it doesn’t state anything about It having a year warranty with them instead they’ll only replace if the device is faulty within the first 30 days.... risky?!! ? .... Just checked again it doesn’t come with any warranty.... ?
Plus if you use the CODE: PERKS on eBay you get a further £50 off... Very tempting stuff

If the pixel 3xl is a bit underwhelming, I'd rather buy a note 9 with a warranty even if it costs more. Having had LG phone issues, I don't want the risk

GaryLe85 said:
Nice find!
After reading the listing it doesn’t state anything about It having a year warranty with them instead they’ll only replace if the device is faulty within the first 30 days.... risky?!! ? .... Just checked again it doesn’t come with any warranty....
Plus if you use the CODE: PERKS on eBay you get a further £50 off... Very tempting stuff
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Why would they offer you a warranty? It's a brand new phone, it's under warranty with Samsung.

beta546 said:
Why would they offer you a warranty? It's a brand new phone, it's under warranty with Samsung.
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As stated on Samsung's website.
European
Consumers who are using a product in a country in the European Economic Area and Switzerland (“Europe”) which was first purchased in another country in Europe can obtain warranty services. The period of the warranty and the warranty service provided will be those of the country in Europe where the warranty claim is made.
Please note that this is a voluntary manufacturer’s warranty and provides rights in addition to, and does not affect statutory rights of end users. When you buy a non-European device, it is not covered under our European Warranty Policy. In that regard, when making a purchase please do check that the device is a European model.
Promotions extending or enhancing the terms of the limited manufacturer’s warranty are country specific and cannot be claimed in countries other than the promoting country.

GaryLe85 said:
As stated on Samsung's website.
European
Consumers who are using a product in a country in the European Economic Area and Switzerland (“Europe”) which was first purchased in another country in Europe can obtain warranty services. The period of the warranty and the warranty service provided will be those of the country in Europe where the warranty claim is made.
Please note that this is a voluntary manufacturer’s warranty and provides rights in addition to, and does not affect statutory rights of end users. When you buy a non-European device, it is not covered under our European Warranty Policy. In that regard, when making a purchase please do check that the device is a European model.
Promotions extending or enhancing the terms of the limited manufacturer’s warranty are country specific and cannot be claimed in countries other than the promoting country.
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Oh well haha, has anyone in the world ever actually needed a warranty? I certainly haven't ? It's like insurance, even if you try to claim on it, the odds of them paying out to you are so slim it's hardly worth bothering. It's also another price you pay for getting something significantly cheaper than in your own country, right now they're selling that phone over £200 cheaper than anywhere in this country, if you're so worried, take that 200 and buy insurance, or open a premium bank account for like £11 a month that offers you full mobile phone insurance like my girlfriend has, she can essentially just launch her phone at the wall and they'll pay out for a replacement ?

beta546 said:
Oh well haha, has anyone in the world ever actually needed a warranty? I certainly haven't It's like insurance, even if you try to claim on it, the odds of them paying out to you are so slim it's hardly worth bothering. It's also another price you pay for getting something significantly cheaper than in your own country, right now they're selling that phone over £200 cheaper than anywhere in this country, if you're so worried, take that 200 and buy insurance, or open a premium bank account for like £11 a month that offers you full mobile phone insurance like my girlfriend has, she can essentially just launch her phone at the wall and they'll pay out for a replacement
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?
Believe it or not i had an issue with my S8 plus (Snapdragon 835 variant) a year ago (screen issue) used it for about 8 months, it took about a month to resolve but ended up getting a refund instead lol
I know what your saying, looks like I'll just go with WondaMobile instead of eBay, that way my mind will be at ease
Btw hows your battery life on your model? I'm still undecided whether to go with the SD 845 or Exynos 9810.. I had the S9 plus with the 9810 and the battery life wasn't great (3.5hr SOT) with 15-16hrs usage consistently, ended up selling it to my bro ?

Had anyone bought from eBay?

Just wondering if anyone has bought the S10 from eBay and who did you buy from?
Also which version did you buy?
I’ve never bought anything expensive as this from eBay and the discounted prices seem to scare me in regards legitimatcy.

Colmdave said:
Just wondering if anyone has bought the S10 from eBay and who did you buy from?
Also which version did you buy?
I’ve never bought anything expensive as this from eBay and the discounted prices seem to scare me in regards legitimatcy.
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It should concern you. I would suggest a lot of research of the seller, paying with a means that gives you some protection such as PayPal or credit card, the sellers return policy, and more than 1 persons good experience with the seller.

Just ask yourself this:
Is it worth buying the phone at a sketchy price that could possibly end up being a clone or scam one week before legitimate versions are available in stores?

Colmdave said:
Just wondering if anyone has bought the S10 from eBay and who did you buy from?
Also which version did you buy?
I’ve never bought anything expensive as this from eBay and the discounted prices seem to scare me in regards legitimatcy.
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I've purchased a number of Galaxy devices from a Houston based seller, best pricing, fast delivery and great customer service.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item34037670f4:m:mcQC07Hu_2UUAAqIB9bYrAg

varcor said:
I've purchased a number of Galaxy devices from a Houston based seller, best pricing, fast delivery and great customer service.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item34037670f4:m:mcQC07Hu_2UUAAqIB9bYrAg
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Yep, well established Seller! I think they sold over 2,000 Note 9's....

That isn't a huge discounted price so I would feel better about that seller than one that's cutting a lot of dollars off the price. That's only 60 or 70 dollars off what Amazon sells it for with an included SD card.

Colmdave said:
Just wondering if anyone has bought the S10 from eBay and who did you buy from?
Also which version did you buy?
I’ve never bought anything expensive as this from eBay and the discounted prices seem to scare me in regards legitimatcy.
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I purchased and already received my Galaxy S10e, SM-G970F/DS from the same seller mentioned. Included an SD card was likely a Latin American model or something because it booted up in Spanish. Otherwise, it's been fantastic and I've been using it since yesterday. Located in the US and running smoothly on Mint Mobile. Bought for just shy of $700

My concern is that these devices haven't even been released in the US yet and this seller is selling them for $100 less than the MSRP. Also, the fact they are supposedly an international model, yet are coming with a US power adapter? Lastly, this appears to be the phones everythingapplepro used on YouTube for his drop test and it broke quite easily, faster than most expected with cornings gorilla glass 6. Not saying these phones are not legitimate, but I have a bit of reservation on them being consistent with Samsung's released product due to the above concerns. If they are legitimate, fantastic deal at that rate.

iOSNick said:
My concern is that these devices haven't even been released in the US yet and this seller is selling them for $100 less than the MSRP. Also, the fact they are supposedly an international model, yet are coming with a US power adapter? Lastly, this appears to be the phones everythingapplepro used on YouTube for his drop test and it broke quite easily, faster than most expected with cornings gorilla glass 6. Not saying these phones are not legitimate, but I have a bit of reservation on them being consistent with Samsung's released product due to the above concerns. If they are legitimate, fantastic deal at that rate.
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I think this identical phone with a bundled SD card is only 60 or 70 bucks more on Amazon. Of course there won't be a warranty on the international version purchased in the US.

Tel864 said:
I think this identical phone with a bundled SD card is only 60 or 70 bucks more on Amazon. Of course there won't be a warranty on the international version purchased in the US.
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Yeah, I see that on Amazon. However, it is from a 3rd party seller which is consistent with these eBay phones being discussed, not officially sold by Amazon. I am keeping my official Samsung preorder to be sure. I'm a bit curious to see other drop/durability tests and other YouTube reviews once the official retail units ship out next week.
Also, something to note, the 128gb SD cards are also included with these eBay models we are discussing. Comes with an SD card in the box, clear case (which was rumored early on in the leaks) and a US wall charger.

succumbtothegreater said:
I purchased and already received my Galaxy S10e, SM-G970F/DS from the same seller mentioned. Included an SD card was likely a Latin American model or something because it booted up in Spanish. Otherwise, it's been fantastic and I've been using it since yesterday. Located in the US and running smoothly on Mint Mobile. Bought for just shy of $700
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Ahh. I’m in Europe so ordering from America would become very expensive with import charges. Unfortunately. The Snapdragon variant looks so promising!!

Colmdave said:
Ahh. I’m in Europe so ordering from America would become very expensive with import charges. Unfortunately. The Snapdragon variant looks so promising!!
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Don't fall for the superficial benchmarks around, we still don't know why people avoid posting battery tests involving the SnapD, also it's permanently bootloader-locked and some updates never get to it.
Anyway don't buy from eBay, Samsung doesn't manage those sales, you get no pre-order bonus, your warranty might be forged and it definitely doesn't look legitimate when some unknown third-party seller puts their hands on pre released devices, selling them for about 10% less than the release price, delivering faster than Samsung itself.
The bonus buds alone are worth more than any eBay deal could save you, and if anything happens with an official pre-order you have legal power, stick to Samsung, Amazon or other officially recognised shops that respect the pre-order plans.

It's legit twisted420 bought his from that seller

fatboypup said:
It's legit twisted420 bought his from that seller
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LOL, unless farboypup is the seller.

If those phones end up being stolen units they'll just be nationally IMEI banned from every network, in any country they are reported as stolen.

Why all negativity... Buy the seller..
Like mentioned those bought from has like tousends of Positive Feedback...
Its like all youtubers who has the phone has a potentially stolen ones???
Comone. It sounds you all jellous of ones who got phones in hands few days before you do [emoji3][emoji3]
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I have dealt with 'Never-MSRP' for the majority of my recent purchases; Samsung or not. I highly recommend them.
See my 'Device History':
S7 Edge (G935FD)
Note 8 256GB (N950N)
Mi A1 (MDG2)
Note 8 (N950FD)
Mi A2 (1M1804D2SG)
Note 9 (N960FD)
ALL Never-MSRP.
They have willingly accepted any and all returns with full refunds OR exchanges (provided the returns met their guidelines; which all my returns did).

I've had nothing but positive experience with them as well... If I buy on eBay I will buy from them before considering another seller
iPhone X

A_H_E said:
I have dealt with 'Never-MSRP' for the majority of my recent purchases; Samsung or not. I highly recommend them.
See my 'Device History':
S7 Edge (G935FD)
Note 8 256GB (N950N)
Mi A1 (MDG2)
Note 8 (N950FD)
Mi A2 (1M1804D2SG)
Note 9 (N960FD)
ALL Never-MSRP.
They have willingly accepted any and all returns with full refunds OR exchanges (provided the returns met their guidelines; which all my returns did).
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I bought the Galaxy s6 and my current Huawei mate 20 pro from them. They are legit and awesome sellers of phones!!! My mate 20 pro was perfect, factory sealed and all. Very happy with the seller and more importantly my lovely phone which replaced the note 9 lol

Price in EU (<€1200 now).

It's now sub 1200 Euros in Germany, if you look around a bit. Nearing 1100 in a few places.
Price has cratered harder and faster than any phone in living memory.
Samsung must be pumping these out of the factory pretty quickly, and not intending for new models to take as long as Fold 1 to Fold 2.
I can see this going below 1000 around Black Friday, and definitely by the New Year. If it's not already replaced by the end of Q1 '21, I'd imagine the phone might see significant development and community involvement, below 1k.

You're insane.
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Really, care to explain why? Lowest retail price has dropped over 700 Euros in less than 2 months.
Samsung are well known for front-loading pricing, and quickly tapering it to distributors and wholesalers, but it's never been quite like this. The device is clearly intended to sell in volume, and not be the flagship for anything like as long as the Fold 1.
Re: development, plenty of 800-1200 Euro devices see lots of development.

mudnightoil said:
It's now sub 1200 Euros in Germany, if you look around a bit. Nearing 1100 in a few places.
Price has cratered harder and faster than any phone in living memory.
Samsung must be pumping these out of the factory pretty quickly, and not intending for new models to take as long as Fold 1 to Fold 2.
I can see this going below 1000 around Black Friday, and definitely by the New Year. If it's not already replaced by the end of Q1 '21, I'd imagine the phone might see significant development and community involvement, below 1k.
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Some links as evidence of brand new / unused prices as per your post?

The €1200 price you mention is a scam. No one is getting the phone for that price.
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In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.

Flavio said:
In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
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No phones at that link.
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Wow, never used a search box?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...+handy_telekom.device_equipment_s:only_device

StormCell said:
The €1200 price you mention is a scam. No one is getting the phone for that price.
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I know it's probably a foreign concept, but supply chains and retail channels are relatively competitive in Europe .. particularly Germany.
Probably seems unreal to you when informal price fixing in a hugely non-competitive market rules in the US ... and you just got a Verizon Fold 2 for $$$$$$$$$$, with no hope of waiting for discounts.
Why do you think anyone with a clue in the US buys from European retailers? Price including tax in Europe (which you don't pay) is usually much cheaper than price excluding tax at US retailers, save for Apple. That's what no competition does.
And now you're mad and refuse to believe anything.

Flavio said:
Wow, never used a search box?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...+handy_telekom.device_equipment_s:only_device
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Those are pretty much all either used or branded / locked to a network.
Show me a link to a commercial seller who sells sim free new sealed box Fold2 including full 2 year official Samsung warranty ... if you can't then just delete this thread

Not true, as I have explained most of them are new in wrapped box with full Samsung European warranty.
And as far as I know no German provider sells these branded and/or SIMlocked.

dezborders said:
Those are pretty much all either used or branded / locked to a network.
Show me a link to a commercial seller who sells sim free new sealed box Fold2 including full 2 year official Samsung warranty ... if you can't then just delete this thread
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Lol.
Are you really not able to use price comparison sites or enter search terms and use filters on Ebay?
Rhetorical question. Evidently not.
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Not true, as I have explained most of them are new in wrapped box with full Samsung European warranty.
And as far as I know no German provider sells these branded and/or SIMlocked.
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I don't think any contract phones have been branded / locked for 5-6 years in DE ... and he appears to be implying these are secondhand contract phones. I'm not even sure heavily subsidised pay as you go phones are branded anymore.
Lowest retail price for sealed NIB Fold 2 in DE is 1149.99 today. It has been lower. Trend is still downwards quickly though.

I bought one of these z fold 2 of Germany.
1215€ and came sealed... I activated Samsung care+
I dont know the reason of the low prize of those phones, but are real and legal.

ricksmad said:
I bought one of these z fold 2 of Germany.
1215€ and came sealed... I activated Samsung care+
I dont know the reason of the low prize of those phones, but are real and legal.
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Another one that bought the phone on ebay on the german market.
At the beginning I thought it was not real, but it cames everything brand new and the price with the discount of 50€ you can get it for 1.215€.
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santjust said:
Another one that bought the phone on ebay on the german market.
At the beginning I thought it was not real, but it cames everything brand new and the price with the discount of 50€ you can get it for 1.215€.
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I bought this Fold 2 for one month ago too in Germany ebay kleinanzeigen 1350 Euro) . some people buy buissness phone cards with a fold 2 and they sell the fold 2 and use the phone card.
Now it is sometimes a little bit cheaper but ok .... I use it for over a month now and I love this phone ! So great stuff Samsung did here ...

You can buy these used for around $1400 US off of Ebay (which is around 1250 Euro, which is what I see it for on the German eBay site). Hoping for a slight bit more of a price drop from Black Friday, but I noticed that Samsung is still selling it for its original price, and they've dropped the price of trade ins by around $200.

I don't know why anyone would have paid full price in the US as it was on sale the opening day at every possible outlet and you would have had to literally give them more money than they were asking for the device in order to pay MSRP; I paid 1600 directly from Samsung's site on pre-order for the unlocked variant and others did better. Day one the latest greatest is always going to be more expensive than it will be just a short time later; you all know that, I'm not telling you something you didn't know. You do need to put it on a level playing field though, you can't compare the MSRP here to the actual price somewhere else at a different time, you have to compare actual price at the same specific time in order to get a valid comparison.

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I don't know why anyone would have paid full price in the US as it was on sale the opening day at every possible outlet and you would have had to literally give them more money than they were asking for the device in order to pay MSRP; I paid 1600 directly from Samsung's site on pre-order for the unlocked variant and others did better. Day one the latest greatest is always going to be more expensive than it will be just a short time later; you all know that, I'm not telling you something you didn't know. You do need to put it on a level playing field though, you can't compare the MSRP here to the actual price somewhere else at a different time, you have to compare actual price at the same specific time in order to get a valid comparison.
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I'm looking to buy it again, and I'm not seeing all these great deals. Samsung's site is $1999, unless you trade in a device. The deals on eBay are ok for a used device, but not great. Amazon has some refurbs for $300 off, which is ok, but again, it's a refurb, to which they only promise that you won't notice a problem "holding it at arm's length". I haven't seen any sign of a new unit coming down in price from $2k.

Flavio said:
In the next two days I am going to buy a brand new in box Z Fold2 for €1.000 or less in Germany.
Not from a shop (several are offering them for €1.150 already) granted, but in Germany a lot of Z Fold2 have been included in a subscription renewal package where people just keep their current phone and monetize the Z Fold2.
I see the prices going down almost daily. It's a simple matter of supply and demand.
Check out https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/
The same thing happened with previous Samsung flagships.
LG devices also depreciate very quickly, but that is because noboby wants them and LG has to lower the RRP to sell them.
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Be very wary of purchasing a phone tied to a network contract.
These phones may get blacklisted a few months down the line if the original owner doesn't pay the bill, or if they have insurance and claim a month or two later that it has been lost or stolen.
... I know this from experience ... you could end up with a 1000 euro "tablet" that cannot use a sim card anywhere in EU

dezborders said:
Be very wary of purchasing a phone tied to a network contract.
These phones may get blacklisted a few months down the line if the original owner doesn't pay the bill, or if they have insurance and claim a month or two later that it has been lost or stolen.
... I know this from experience ... you could end up with a 1000 euro "tablet" that cannot use a sim card anywhere in EU
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It's good advice, and I am worried about it. I see a number of devices for sale that say they're on a contract. Kind of terrifying that someone decides to switch providers and suddenly my phone is blacklisted.
Starting to hope for a Black Friday sale!