I am sick of using a screen protector, is the screen realy scrach resistant.what you guys experienced?
You should watch JerryRigEverythings review of the Oneplus 3/3t here, as he says in the clip, our phone has gorilla glas 4 and scratches at level 6 and deeper scratches at level 7.
https://youtu.be/8PZ8W_g6Vvk
I've never used screen protector on mine. Only irritating thing is that it's quite prone to getting smudged by skin fat, that means the oleophobic coating of the screen surface could be better, maybe the only reason that I would put a screen protector on my 3t.
The screen protector definitely makes a big difference in durability and scratch-resistance, but after time with a case it kinda messes up the protector. I like using my phone without one.
The screen can get scratched.
ive got a few hair thin scratches on my screen so i wouldnt say that the glass is superb but it holds up against some abrasion. I just wouldnt put your keys in the same pocket as your phone.
This screen is definitely not scratch resistant. 4 months of usage and I've got one nice scratch down the middle and some superficial scratches towards the top corners. Phone has never been in a case, just keep it in a leather holster
Whether the glass is classified as "scratch resistant" is a semantic and marketing distinction. To answer "yes" or "no" to this (whether it is "really" scratch resistant) doesn't mean much of anything. Gorilla Glass is meant to resist some scratches. But that doesn't mean it can't be scratched (and far from it). And that doesn't account for oleophobic coating applied to it, which can also scratch.
For every person who says they never have gotten a scratch, you will find another person that scratched theirs in days/weeks. My other (work) phone is an iPhone (also Gorilla Glass). I'm admittedly not too gentle with it, and it got a big gouge on the screen the first week or so after I received it.
Whether to use a screen protector or not, comes down to a personal choice. Many folks don't like the feel or hassle of a protector. But if you don't use one, you will have to live with the potential of at least superficial scuffs, or even deeper scratches.
OcazPrime said:
ive got a few hair thin scratches on my screen so i wouldnt say that the glass is superb but it holds up against some abrasion. I just wouldnt put your keys in the same pocket as your phone.
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Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
Isus <3 said:
Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
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Walmart makes some strong keys then.
OcazPrime said:
Walmart makes some strong keys then.
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Its not keys.. your pocket probably has dust inside with particles of material which is harder than ur screen
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Its not keys.. your pocket probably has dust inside with particles of material which is harder than ur screen
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It's not a big deal really. Theyre so unnoticeable i have to actually seek them out to see them.
protocol717 said:
I am sick of using a screen protector, is the screen realy scrach resistant.what you guys experienced?
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No,i suggest you to use a screen protector.
protocol717 said:
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The Corning Gorilla Glass 4 is indeed 'Scratch-Proof' under normal usage in urban daily life, but still it cannot stand the IMPACT force when it drop to the ground, so get a TEMPERED GLASS Screen protector. If u still feel sick of using it, then spend some bucks to buy RhinoShield CrashGuard along with some DBrand skins ? !
Got to look 'SiCk' after that ?
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Isus <3 said:
Keys cant damage gorilla glass unless they are made of diamond or any material which is harder or equally hard as gorilla glass, sand, concrete, diamond can scratch screen easily.. it doesnt matter how sharp the object is but how hard it is
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While GG may be hard to scratch, it doesn't account for the oleophobic coating, which is much easier to scratch. To the user, it doesn't matter which scratches (the glass or the coating). A scratch is a scratch.
Scientifically you are correct. For that matter, you can't even scratch a regular glass beer bottle with a key (go ahead and try, I have) since the Moh's hardness of glass is 5.5 , and steel is only around 4.
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ZRagonZ said:
The Corning Gorilla Glass 4 is indeed 'Scratch-Proof' under normal usage in urban daily life
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Everyone (not just you, but others on the thread, including the original poster) should stop thinking about terms like "scratch resistant" and "scratch proof" as absolute yes/no things, since they aren't. There is no technical or scientific definition for these terms. Nothing is scratch proof, even a diamond can scratch a diamond. And I know you qualified it with "normal usage" but that term itself is completely subjective. Many folks wear diamond rings on their hands on a normal daily basis, after all.
Similar to the term "water proof" which doesn't really mean anything by itself. That is why things like IP ratings (which define specific water depth/pressure and exposure times) have been developed to better define water resistance/water proofness.
And as I already mentioned above, even if the glass was "scratch proof" (if there was such a thing), it would be irrelevant, since they've put a coating on top of the glass, that can be scratched.
redpoint73 said:
While GG may be hard to scratch, it doesn't account for the oleophobic coating, which is much easier to scratch. To the user, it doesn't matter which scratches (the glass or the coating). A scratch is a scratch.
Scientifically you are correct. For that matter, you can't even scratch a regular glass beer bottle with a key (go ahead and try, I have) since the Moh's hardness of glass is 5.5 , and steel is only around 4.
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Everyone (not just you, but others on the thread, including the original poster) should stop thinking about terms like "scratch resistant" and "scratch proof" as absolute yes/no things, since they aren't. There is no technical or scientific definition for these terms. Nothing is scratch proof, even a diamond can scratch a diamond. And I know you qualified it with "normal usage" but that term itself is completely subjective. Many folks wear diamond rings on their hands on a normal daily basis, after all.
Similar to the term "water proof" which doesn't really mean anything by itself. That is why things like IP ratings (which define specific water depth/pressure and exposure times) have been developed to better define water resistance/water proofness.
And as I already mentioned above, even if the glass was "scratch proof" (if there was such a thing), it would be irrelevant, since they've put a coating on top of the glass, that can be scratched.
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I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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It may be why folks are seeing superficial scuffs on the screen.
I've definitely seen oleophobic (or some other type of coating) get scratched on other devices. On my old HTC M8, it was reported by many users (myself included) that the coating on the back camera was getting scratched and peeling to the point that it clouded the photos. Removing the coating (various methods, most used alcohol, toothpaste, or some other mild solvent or abrasive) and the glass underneath was just fine (no scratches). This is probably a "worst case" example where the coating was particularly low quality. And just the camera glass, not the screen. But an example, nonetheless.
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I took it off from day one, and have regretted it ever since. I haven't dropped the phone nor put it in a pocket with anything else, yet I have two scratches... A light one in the top left corner of the phone and a deeper one I can feel with my nail in the centre. Not sure how but yeah...
So I'd keep it on if I were you.
OmJo93 said:
I took it off from day one, and have regretted it ever since. I haven't dropped the phone nor put it in a pocket with anything else, yet I have two scratches... A light one in the top left corner of the phone and a deeper one I can feel with my nail in the centre. Not sure how but yeah...
So I'd keep it on if I were you.
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There is no anti-scratch phone, If you care for your phone you'll need a screen protector,PERIOD.
Midomad said:
There is no scratch proof phone, If you care for your phone you'll need a screen protector,PERIOD.
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Yeah, I got a bit overconfident after watching JerryRigEverythings videos and took it off. A few months later I'm ordering a pack of screen protectors off Amazon and looking at maybe replacing the screen.
I still hope they are just in the oleophobic coating but doesn't seem likely. At least for the second one. And it's not really worth the risk of removing the coating to find out.
The 3T screen is pretty soft. I've owned this phone twice ([emoji38]), and both times just sliding in my pocket has created small scratches. The small scratches that you can only see, if you angle the phone in light, not a biggie, but if you have OCD..it will bug the heck out of you. Also if you ever sell, just know most OnePlus 3T screens will trend towards "good" vs mint.
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I dont think there would be any visible damage to our eyes if oleophobic coating was scratched.. i'd feel its as easy to scratch as paint from metal or wall or wood so if you would be able to see oleophobic scratches my phone would already look like a scratch hell
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The hair thin scratches are usually in oleophobic coating and not in glass, so yeah it's definitely visible.
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I will have this phone in two weeks. Do I need a clear screen protector? Or does it stay looking relatively good?
I also just got this phone and I think you should get one. Better safe than sorry. As this scree. Isn't gorilla glass so I won't really take my chances. In my old captivate and even my i9000 I had one.
Always a good practice and keeps resale value higher when screen is mint.
i've had it since launch day with no screen protector in my pocket, no scratches, same with my two previous phones none of which had gorilla glass
I vote no screen protector but don't put it in your trouser pocket with a bunch of keys and then sit down - the screen cracks
I don't use a screen protector for the protective qualities, but rather for the antifingerprint features, just makes the device look cleaner, repels glare as well.
You can answer this question yourself. Did you have a screen protector on your previous phone (with glass display)? If not, did you feel safe? If yes, don't buy one for the Nexus S. One screen doesn't scratch faster than another. Gorilla Glass maybe helps a little, but it's there to prevent cracking, not scratches.
Keep in mind that the Nexus S has a curved display. This actually DOES help a lot to prevent scratches, a lot more than Gorilla Glass.
This screen isn't like old ones. Most previous android phones didn't have an oleophobic coating which is far easier to scratch and wear off than the screen itself.
Just take a look at any iPhone 4 that's been used... there will be lots of little micro scratches in the coating but not the actual screen.
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You can answer this question yourself. Did you have a screen protector on your previous phone (with glass display)? If not, did you feel safe? If yes, don't buy one for the Nexus S. One screen doesn't scratch faster than another. Gorilla Glass maybe helps a little, but it's there to prevent cracking, not scratches.
Keep in mind that the Nexus S has a curved display. This actually DOES help a lot to prevent scratches, a lot more than Gorilla Glass.
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I have the full body Zagg one ... i like it..
anything that's going to scratch the screen is probably going to crack it. Although it's not gorilla glass it's pretty tough. i've dropped my phone numerous times face-first, and thanks to the curved display, not one scratch....
however the back is another story. I have numerous large scratches on it... so if you need any protection get a cover. don't worry so much about the screen. i hate those plastic coatings anyway....
well...
I personally like a SP just because, hey, you just dropped some $ on a relatively pricey piece of equipment.
also it depends, do you have one of those nifty belt carrier thingys??? or do you rock it in the pocket, personally my phone stays in my pocket (I should really look into one of those nice padded carriers lol) Its all preference and just how hard on that phone youre gunna be man.
Thanks for all the feedback. I only carry my phone in my pocket. I hate those enclosed cases as aesthetics are important to me too and the cases always make it look clumps. I have never had a clear screen protector before and don't think I'll have one now. Thanks again!
Like most of the people told, I was against a screen proctector. But after using the NS for 1 week, I have noticed 3-4 round oily marks on the screen which I was not able to remove. Then I had to go and replace the handset and had the screen guard purchased right away.
I usually use a screen protector on any phone for:
1. Peace of mind
2. Fingers seem to glide on them easier than bare glass.
koottan said:
Like most of the people told, I was against a screen proctector. But after using the NS for 1 week, I have noticed 3-4 round oily marks on the screen which I was not able to remove. Then I had to go and replace the handset and had the screen guard purchased right away.
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Really - oily stains that wouldn't come out? Has anyone else had that issue?
I have a HTC hero I've had a year, no idea what type of screen it is. Aside from finger prints on the screen, thats all that ever happened to it. No scratches or anything!
I did get one but took it off after a while.
Sine the screen has anti fingerprints and is A LOT smoother without a "protector" I choose to take the risk of getting it scratched.
I thought like this. If I have a protector and it gets scratched I still be walking around with a phone with scratches, unless I change me protector shield. But yeah if you get a good protector Shield, I suppose my argument is not valid. Anyways get 2 if you find anything decent !
just got my phantom skinz in the mail for my new nexus s 4g. cannot wait to actually use the phone when i get it this week.
Just wanted to get some thoughts / experience from you guys on this please.
Gorilla Glass is tough, but it's not the indestructible thing a lot of people think it is. I still have the factory protector in place.
Cheers Rusty!
Was asking as I'm generally pretty careful with my devices and was thinking it should be durable enough for my jean pocket.
Durable, yes, scratch proof, no. Even people that are gentle get scratches once in a while. If one grain of sand gets in your pocket with the phone you could end up with scratches. Do yourself a favor and get a good quality protector that you will never notice once its on. I use Steinheil protectors.
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Durable, yes, scratch proof, no. Even people that are gentle get scratches once in a while. If one grain of sand gets in your pocket with the phone you could end up with scratches. Do yourself a favor and get a good quality protector that you will never notice once its on. I use Steinheil protectors.
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Thanks for the advice crzycrkr - you make a fair point, I'll take a look at the Steinheil.
Cheers, H
my only problem is with protectors I can't make the same slick swipe movements, that I used to make on the glass surface... the film just sticks to my fingers, and sliding on it is just not so fluent...
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my only problem is with protectors I can't make the same slick swipe movements, that I used to make on the glass surface... the film just sticks to my fingers, and sliding on it is just not so fluent...
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You have not tried any good protectors then. Stick with dry application ones. The wet applications are more rubber like. The Steinheil is called the Ultra Optics I think. Have one on my Transformer and you can't even tell its there and can slide across it just like the glass. I used Boxwave in the past, but they scratched too easily. There are a lot of good protectors out there, just do some reading and stay away from Zagg Invisible Shields no matter what you do.
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I use a cloth pouch for my phone and haven't got any scratches since I got it (launch)
Like crzycrkr said, sand and minerals/stones in general are kryptonite for Gorilla Glass, whereas coins/keys/metal are no problem.
So, in my opinion, if you keep the phone in a pouch, you shouldn't face any serious problems.
Unless some sand finds it's way into the pouch, then you're utterly boned.
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Just wanted to get some thoughts / experience from you guys on this please.
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Hey dude. Do use a screen protector, my Nokia X6 has Gorilla glass too. but it has some scratches at the screen even when I put it inside a leather case.
Okay fellas, you've convinced me of the use case. I'll invest in a decent protector.
Thanks for all your comments!
i have no display protectors, imho they are unnecessary...
i believe that because when my o2x fell on the asphalt 3 months ago, faced down, i found lots of scratches on the plastic corners, but no scratches on the display. i could post some photos of the phone.
so, if the phone standed the asphalt, i guess it stands my pockets too
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i have no display protectors, imho they are unnecessary...
i believe that because when my o2x fell on the asphalt 3 months ago, faced down, i found lots of scratches on the plastic corners, but no scratches on the display. i could post some photos of the phone.
so, if the phone standed the asphalt, i guess it stands my pockets too
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Asphalt is not particularly hard. The only people who don't use screen protectors are the ones who haven't scratched their devices yet. Then they curse amd wwonder why they didn't listen. With the quality of the protectors out there, there's not reason not to get one
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I use it since April 2nd and do not use any screen protector or any other protector. I have my phone always with me and most of the time it is in my Jeans front pocket. I just came back from an outdoor trip to the polar circle and generally do lots of outdoor activities and my phones screen still is as new.
Sometimes I have sand in my pocket after I have played Beach Volleyball and still no scratches.
Sand will scratch Gorilla Glass, but it needs some force to do so. It wont scratch it if it only gently slides over it in a pocket.
Think about what you do with your phone before you do it and you won't need a protector. And don't worry, the O2X is really well crafted and not easy to damage.
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I use it since April 2nd and do not use any screen protector or any other protector. I have my phone always with me and most of the time it is in my Jeans front pocket. I just came back from an outdoor trip to the polar circle and generally do lots of outdoor activities and my phones screen still is as new.
Sometimes I have sand in my pocket after I have played Beach Volleyball and still no scratches.
Sand will scratch Gorilla Glass, but it needs some force to do so. It wont scratch it if it only gently slides over it in a pocket.
Think about what you do with your phone before you do it and you won't need a protector. And don't worry, the O2X is really well crafted and not easy to damage.
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Again, congratulations, but you are lucky and just one scratch away from kicking yourself for not putting one on.
Screen protector is just a thin film that'll not affect the screen's responsiveness, unless ofc you have that Sony bulky one. It is also cheap less than a buck. Why take the risk of a naked screen outdoor?
Because for one the scratches or damage in general could also happen on the backside and I wont put my pretty phone into an ugly case. Also I like the touch of glass.
And finally when I will sell this phone sometime in one or two years, the price won't differ between a totally unscratched pone and one with a few scratches.
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Because for one the scratches or damage in general could also happen on the backside and I wont put my pretty phone into an ugly case. Also I like the touch of glass.
And finally when I will sell this phone sometime in one or two years, the price won't differ between a totally unscratched pone and one with a few scratches.
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Just out of curiosity, have you tried a good quality, dry application protector, like a Steinheil ultra clear? 99 out of 100 people wouldn't even know its on, and all 100 wouldn't have a problem with the feel.
No I haven't.
I've used screen Protectors on my former phones and they did statisfy me.
With this phone I still am happy that I don't need one.
First thing I did was taking off the protector when I bought my phone.
Still no scratch, always carrying in my pocket.
The thin protector will not protect the phone from getting scratched for objects which will damage gorilla glass.
Without protector it feels better also.
I don't leave the plastic around the seats in my car also.
When I got mine O2X I didn't take off screen protector. Today when I looked it seemed like it was scratched. How is it posible? Is it posible that the screen is also scratched? I'm afraid to take it off to check the screen.
edit: Is this gorilla glass screen really that scratch-proof for everything except sand, minerals and glass?
Hi,
The screen's gorilla glass is really THAT good actually.. most people will say no need to use screen protector... but for myself.. I do use just for extra safety.. since even the best of them are quite cheap online.
The stock 'screen protector' is not really a screen protector.. its just a transparent sticker pasted for packaging protection. I doubt your screen is scratched, but you need to remove it to actually know..
I suggest if you are planning to buy a real screen protecter, buy those made with PET material (some even use PET from 3M), they are more durable and scratch resistant. Becareful with the terms...its sratch RESISTANT not scratch PROOF. Two different things. But it IS better.
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Hello!
Yes, the "stock screen protector" scratches easily…
…and No, i wouldn't expect any real scratches in the screen itself/the gorilla glass itself - it is most probably intact.
You can either ignore these small scratches in the plastic foil or get one more scratch resistant.
I also didn’t take of the protective foil – just lazy…
Now after 3 months of usage mine looks quite battered and I will replace it if I have a minute.
I do not think everything is perfect in this world
gorilla glass can also be scratched, especially for small objects such as sharp sand
I suggest to you to always use additional security on your screen scratch resistant though, because some of my friends who use o2x also been scratched on the screen due to sand
You cannot injure the screen through a protector so rest assured there. Personally I always will use a screen protector. I don't feel right if my phone is "naked" so to speak, makes me uber paranoid.
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Looks like they got the full body one and just the screen protector... been waiting for these!
I've put one of these on my Nexus S, but never on something as big as a tablet... hopefully it's just as easy.
There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
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There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
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Where's the best place to get them and is there a warranty?
Online on their respective websites, bestskinsever.com, xoskins,com, etc. They all have lifetime warranties I believe.
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There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
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Just curious on how they are better ? Just the pricfe or quality?
I've had a Screen protector from Zagg on my SGS2 since day 1 and seems perfect . Is the touch feeling different on those ?
why in the world would you want to put a screen protector on one of these? you can never get them on perfect and even when placed really good they still ruin the look and feel of the screen in my opinion. also dont worry about the screen anyway- they are practically indestructible/unscratchable with the new glass they use. search youtube for gorilla glass 2 and see for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8xI4PEU8c
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Just curious on how they are better ? Just the pricfe or quality?
I've had a Screen protector from Zagg on my SGS2 since day 1 and seems perfect . Is the touch feeling different on those ?
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A lot less orange peel, don't feel as rubbery, cheaper.
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why in the world would you want to put a screen protector on one of these? you can never get them on perfect and even when placed really good they still ruin the look and feel of the screen in my opinion. also dont worry about the screen anyway- they are practically indestructible/unscratchable with the new glass they use. search youtube for gorilla glass 2 and see for yourself.
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Because sand will scratch the glass regardless. It's like you don't understand how minerals work. silica has a hardness of 7. gorilla glass is ~6.4. Also, gorilla Glass 2 is thinner than gorilla glass 1, so it will shatter easier when dropped.
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A lot less orange peel, don't feel as rubbery, cheaper.
Because sand will scratch the glass regardless. It's like you don't understand how minerals work. silica has a hardness of 7. gorilla glass is ~6.4. Also, gorilla Glass 2 is thinner than gorilla glass 1, so it will shatter easier when dropped.
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First: Not sure where your ~6.4 number is coming from. Everything i have seen reports it between 7 and 9. Corning uses a different type of test for abrasion so there is no official mohs hardness number.
Second: What the heck are you doing with your tablet that you are that worried about getting sand on it? I have had my phone(s) on construction sites and in our laboratory full of soil, sand, rock, concrete, etc every day and havent scratched one of them once since i got one that has this glass. If it can not scratch under the abuse i give it at work it can survive anything most other people can throw at it. If you get some sand or something on the screen, gently wipe it off and it will be fine. Big thing you need to worry about scratching it is diamonds and other gems from jewelry or maybe the corundrum off of sandpaper or emery boards.
Third: Gorilla glass 2 is thinner but "Corning announced Gorilla Glass 2, a glass 20 percent thinner than the original material offering the same scratch resistance, the same strength and enhanced touch-sensitivity." Either way, a plastic film on the screen isnt going to help protect the screen from breaking in a drop- at best it will hold all the broken pieces together. Its adding no impact resistance to the glass.
My point was only this- why ruin the look at feel of the beautiful screen on this thing when corning and others have spent enormous amounts of money developing glass for these so you don't have to bother with a screen protector. Save your money and buy a nice case to carry it in when you aren't using it and you'll be fine.
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First: Not sure where your ~6.4 number is coming from. Everything i have seen reports it between 7 and 9. Corning uses a different type of test for abrasion so there is no official mohs hardness number.
Second: What the heck are you doing with your tablet that you are that worried about getting sand on it? I have had my phone(s) on construction sites and in our laboratory full of soil, sand, rock, concrete, etc every day and havent scratched one of them once since i got one that has this glass. If it can not scratch under the abuse i give it at work it can survive anything most other people can throw at it. If you get some sand or something on the screen, gently wipe it off and it will be fine. Big thing you need to worry about scratching it is diamonds and other gems from jewelry or maybe the corundrum off of sandpaper or emery boards.
Third: Gorilla glass 2 is thinner but "Corning announced Gorilla Glass 2, a glass 20 percent thinner than the original material offering the same scratch resistance, the same strength and enhanced touch-sensitivity." Either way, a plastic film on the screen isnt going to help protect the screen from breaking in a drop- at best it will hold all the broken pieces together. Its adding no impact resistance to the glass.
My point was only this- why ruin the look at feel of the beautiful screen on this thing when corning and others have spent enormous amounts of money developing glass for these so you don't have to bother with a screen protector. Save your money and buy a nice case to carry it in when you aren't using it and you'll be fine.
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You do realise that sand is literally everywhere right? It's in your pockets, on your table, etc. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/wa1g0/gorilla_glass_2_is_overhyped_there_are_a_ton_of/
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/579703-so-much-scratch-resistant-gorilla-glass-2-a.html
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...ss-2-already-scratched-very-disappointed.html
Oh look, people managed to scratch their gorilla glass 2 phone in their pocket. It's merely scratch resistant and not scratch proof.
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Oh look, people managed to scratch their gorilla glass 2 phone in their pocket. It's merely scratch resistant and not scratch proof.
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Yeah, so put it in a case before putting it in your pocket, like the guy was saying.
You do that, you don't really need a screen protector.
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You do realise that sand is literally everywhere right? It's in your pockets, on your table, etc. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/wa1g0/gorilla_glass_2_is_overhyped_there_are_a_ton_of/
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/579703-so-much-scratch-resistant-gorilla-glass-2-a.html
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how big are your sand-filled pockets if you can fit a 10 inch tablet in them?
and you need to clean your table if its got sand all over it.
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how big are your sand-filled pockets if you can fit a 10 inch tablet in them?
and you need to clean your table if its got sand all over it.
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I've helped friends install InvisibleShield on various phones, and despite a pristine install, I really never could stand the feel of one of these instead of the bare glass. When I got my Galaxy Nexus a year ago, I checked the reviews again, looked at friends' phones with screen protectors (including Zagg) and came away with the same impression -- makes sense, since they're probably using the same 3M protective film (used on leading edge of helicopter rotors, car bras, etc.)
Despite the horror stories and photos of screens destroyed with "invisible sand", I decided to chance it with the GNex so I could really enjoy the screen as it was intended to be used. The only protection the phone has ever had on it is the 2-piece (silicone inner with plastic shell) Incipio case that Verizon was selling. The screen has been bare for a year.
The phone is generally with me from 6am till bedtime. I travel frequently for work -- the phone gets jammed in a pants pocket, jacket pocket, placed in a cup holder in my car, I've dropped it 3 times (happily the Incipio was sufficient protection). I've had it on camping trips, and on our last two vacations at the beach the phone came along with me every day.
Point is: the Galaxy Nexus screen is not even true Gorilla Glass, but an unspecified "fortified glass" that Samsung used instead back then. Assumptions are that real Gorilla Glass is more scratch resistant, and Gorilla Glass 2 is an even better product. With all considered, my Galaxy Nexus has no visible scratches -- and I DO check it carefully, as flaws like that tend to bug me. I've taken a chance with the phone, but in the end I'm SO happy that I have been able to fully enjoy the phone as it was intended, rather than have to drag my finger across a slightly rubbery, slightly orange-peely, surface any time I want to use it.
In my own use, a tablet would subject to less potential scratching and wear than my phone. I'm careful with my tech equipment -- but I use it heavily, and I want to enjoy it to the fullest. So far, protectors like Zagg's product do more to compromise my experience than the protection is worth to me. Everyone uses their devices in their own fashion, some are rougher on them than others or more accident prone, and some live in sandier climates... Obviously each has to decide what makes sense for his/her self. For me, considering my usage patterns -- the state of the art of screens and screen protectors is such that I generally won't use one, and I haven't regretted it yet.
Looks like it leaves too much residue on the Gorilla glass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GzYnDnZDRg
Anyone done theirs?
merseyman said:
Looks like it leaves too much residue on the Gorilla glass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GzYnDnZDRg
Anyone done theirs?
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As soon as i get any sony phone out of the box i remove the factory fitted screen protecter.
The screen looks better without it, the screen is tougher than the protector so always looks better as it does not get scratched.
I keep my phone in mypocket with car keys and loose change, my screen has not a single scratch on it, but the screen protectoer always gets scratched and attracts dust....Its my one and only complaint about the phones
gregbradley said:
As soon as i get any sony phone out of the box i remove the factory fitted screen protecter.
The screen looks better without it, the screen is tougher than the protector so always looks better as it does not get scratched.
I keep my phone in mypocket with car keys and loose change, my screen has not a single scratch on it, but the screen protectoer always gets scratched and attracts dust....Its my one and only complaint about the phones
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¿How about the finger oil the girl talks about?. It seems the bare screen is much harder to keep acceptably clean.
I aint taking mine off.
And i put the provided screen protector on, still feels good.
.....might put another one on to protect the 2nd one
Arcano said:
¿How about the finger oil the girl talks about?. It seems the bare screen is much harder to keep acceptably clean.
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It's easier to keep clean than the screen protector, it's more responsive, collects less dust, and does not get scratched like the screen protector does.
If you do it, you won't go back to using one
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merseyman said:
I aint taking mine off.
And i put the provided screen protector on, still feels good.
.....might put another one on to protect the 2nd one
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Each to their own, I can only share my experiences and opinions with you, however my wife did that to her T when she got it and IMHO made the screen dim, was less responsive and attracted dust a lot
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It's easier to keep clean than the screen protector, it's more responsive, collects less dust, and does not get scratched like the screen protector does.
If you do it, you won't go back to using one
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I don't like or use screen protectors either, that's why I'm interested in taking it off or not.
However the thing that worries me is how "oily" it remained when the girl removed it.
Right now it certainly attracts dust like crazy, but a quick rub with my sleeve and it's clean again. In the video however seems that the bare crystal is not so easy to clean off.
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My Xperia T was not "oily" at all when I removed the screen protector. It was perfect. Just get comfortable while trying to make the first peel, because it may send you nuts.
I started from the narrow strip above the earpiece hole, used a stitch needle to weaken the protector plastic (the glass won't get any scratches from it) and then managed to lift it off the surface... it then came away easily.
Without the screen protector, I don't have dust on it anymore (i think it's electrostatically attracted by the protector). It is more oily, for sure, but the oil makes your finger slip better on the screen, and I like that.
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My Xperia T was not "oily" at all when I removed the screen protector. It was perfect. Just get comfortable while trying to make the first peel, because it may send you nuts.
I started from the narrow strip above the earpiece hole, used a stitch needle to weaken the protector plastic (the glass won't get any scratches from it) and then managed to lift it off the surface... it then came away easily.
Without the screen protector, I don't have dust on it anymore (i think it's electrostatically attracted by the protector). It is more oily, for sure, but the oil makes your finger slip better on the screen, and I like that.
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Same for me.
I removed it 3 seconds using a needle then peeled it off, cleaned with dishwasher rinse aid (innovative alternative for proper glass cleaner) on a micro-fibre cloth.
Screen is so much better. Crisper, less dust and I'm not really getting finger print marks; same as with protector.
Glad I took it off and did the same with my X10. You do wonder though why Sony don't use top grade glass on most of their phones. Strange.
I happen to like the feeling of the screen protector it's super ultra smooth but sadly as we all know super easy to scratch I think mine retained it's scratched from a little bit of pocket lint and some bubble gum rappers kinda makes you think WTF Sony WTF any how it doesn't look like she truly cleaned the screen proper and what we all want to know is what the phone is really like with out the glued on screen protector ?
What is it made of is it any thing like my Xperia arc which doesn't feel so great after I use it with my dirty work hands but if actually clean it feels alright.
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I won't take mine off. Last time I did that to my arc s, my screen received lots of scratches.
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I have to say that the built-on proctector does not feel good to me. My finger could not glide well at all. For the moment I have put the thinnest screen protector I had for the T and that has made a world of difference.
Just a question. If Sony use some kind of shatter-proof glass (Corning's gorrilla or Asahi Dragontail (don't they make beer too?)) why do they stick a thick sheet on top. Makes me think it is not very shatter proof!
Who makes the glass for the T?
It is Corning Gorilla Glass, according to a Sony rep on Sony Mobile Forum
A follow up to the girls video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2qdwsFd-Qw
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But do we beleive that?
Most Gorilla glass customers state they are using it, the same way they tell you the manufacturer of the processor.
The white paper for the xperia T that came out in Sept.(ver 3) just says:
"Shatter-proof sheet on scratch-resistant glass"
Gorilla glass is shatter proof as well as scratch resistant
After noticing that the screen protector on my V was literally covered with probably 100+ microscratches from being in my pocket all the time, I went ahead and took it off. The screen looks much better now, but gets much greasier than before. No big deal, it's just like my old phone. What I really don't like, however, is that I lost my Sony logo, as it was printed on the screen protector and not the handset itself.
wow, that is a real suprise, I wonder where Xperia and Sony are printed on the T, any comments from those who took it off?
icstm said:
wow, that is a real suprise, I wonder where Xperia and Sony are printed on the T, any comments from those who took it off?
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¿Haven't you seen the video on the first post?. Your question is answered there, look around 6:25.
Arcano said:
¿Haven't you seen the video on the first post?. Your question is answered there, look around 6:25.
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Makes you laugh doesn't it...!
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But do we beleive that?
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You may be right, the post at Sony Mobile were a Sony guy states it is Gorilla Glass, has been deleted.
Emailed Corning but they can't disclose info because of a privacy clause.
gsmarena state it as shatterproof and scratch resistant glass ( http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t-4899.php )
i dont like the screen protector but as i have only had the phone for like 6 hours in going to keep it on for now
Well Sony make a distinction between the two.
"Shatter-proof sheet on scratch-resistant glass"
I did not like the sheet, so I stuck a proctector on top that that feels much better.