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Hi guys,
I've been on the Epic Rom Pro for quite a while now, I have started seeing some new roms pop up and i'm not really clear as to how they differ, specifically it looks like the Resurrection Remix rom has a ton of posts/activity.
How do these two roms differ? I'm looking for something that is mostly stable with a minimum of bugs, but I certainly like customization...
Thanks!
Sry for my bad English.
I have use two rom for a while enough to tell something for you. Both Epic and RR are stable enough for daily using. If i want Miui, I will using Epic 8.2.1.0 cause Xposed. Xposed + Mi8Tweak modul very great for custom. If you want nougat, RR is best choise for now. Miui on 7.0 mean no xposed, and RR has alot of great option for custom your phone.
KimUyLong said:
Sry for my bad English.
I have use two rom for a while enough to tell something for you. Both Epic and RR are stable enough for daily using. If i want Miui, I will using Epic 8.2.1.0 cause Xposed. Xposed + Mi8Tweak modul very great for custom. If you want nougat, RR is best choise for now. Miui on 7.0 mean no xposed, and RR has alot of great option for custom your phone.
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Thank you for your reply. I am already on Nougat as Epic Rom Pro is now Nougat based, I do miss xposed, but I can live without it.
So both are now Nougat based. Are they both Miui based? or is Resurrection based on plain Android?
omniphil said:
Thank you for your reply. I am already on Nougat as Epic Rom Pro is now Nougat based, I do miss xposed, but I can live without it.
So both are now Nougat based. Are they both Miui based? or is Resurrection based on plain Android?
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I am on MIUI and want to jump on RR or Epic and this is what I was wondering too, which of the two?!
RR seems more updated but Epic seems more popular and more downloaded. Are they both similar?
omniphil said:
Thank you for your reply. I am already on Nougat as Epic Rom Pro is now Nougat based, I do miss xposed, but I can live without it.
So both are now Nougat based. Are they both Miui based? or is Resurrection based on plain Android?
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saurabhsun said:
I am on MIUI and want to jump on RR or Epic and this is what I was wondering too, which of the two?!
RR seems more updated but Epic seems more popular and more downloaded. Are they both similar?
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RR, DU, LOS these are as you said 'plain Android' based roms, they don't look like Miui. All of them 7.x.x based as well and the RR rom -is the one which has lots of features- gets updated Weekly/Daily. If you're not a miui lover, not an xposed addict; you should go for RR. If you consider flashing any of those; be careful and read about encryption**
Mi MIX
7.5.4 Épic
Konsstantine34 said:
RR, DU, LOS these are as you said 'plain Android' based roms, they don't look like Miui. All of them 7.x.x based as well and the RR rom -is the one which has lots of features- gets updated Weekly/Daily. If you're not a miui lover, not an xposed addict; you should go for RR. If you consider flashing any of those; be careful and read about encryption**
Mi MIX
7.5.4 Épic
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Oh, so RR is AOSP based? No Xiaomi stuff at all? That sounds excellent.
So on RR is Encryption on by default? Yuck! I assume we can turn it off?
I do like Xposed, but Epic Pro is Android 7 now, so Xposed doesn't work on that one anyways now.
omniphil said:
Oh, so RR is AOSP based? No Xiaomi stuff at all?
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Aosp or Los, or whatever they are. Lots of stuff in it lol. I never like that pure android look tho.
omniphil said:
So on RR is Encryption on by default? Yuck! I assume we can turn it off?
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Folks say so, encryption comes by default. Perhaps the dm-verity disabler zip would prevent it to get encrypted. Because this thing sucks, asks pin after reboot, in recovery etc. Reboot takes longer time and so on. Also you have to format data which means entire device to get rid of encryption. Transferring my files took 3 hours to be done after i remove 75gb data from my device, gross.
omniphil said:
I do like Xposed, but Epic Pro is Android 7 now, so Xposed doesn't work on that one anyways now.
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Well xposed is more important than rom for me since i discovered it -long time ago-. Im safe and sound with the one i use now because of xposed support. I can stick with MM forever. Ha!
Mi MIX
7.5.4 Épic
Well i just tried Resurrection Remix. Yeah, Encrypted by default. Doesn't appear to be any way to turn it off. Ok, I guess that's fine.
However it doesn't come rooted. And it looks like SuperSU isn't the way to do it any more. So no root is a problem for sure.
I'll flash back to Epic for now. I didn't really understand the whole Magisk thing...
RR stock DPI was 480, so big, lol..
omniphil said:
Well i just tried Resurrection Remix. Yeah, Encrypted by default. Doesn't appear to be any way to turn it off. Ok, I guess that's fine.
However it doesn't come rooted. And it looks like SuperSU isn't the way to do it any more. So no root is a problem for sure.
I'll flash back to Epic for now. I didn't really understand the whole Magisk thing...
RR stock DPI was 480, so big, lol..
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So RR can be rooted or not?!
saurabhsun said:
So RR can be rooted or not?!
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I'm sure it can be, but not with the usual SuperSU way, I didn't really have time to go figure out how to get root all setup. I assumed the rom was pre-rooted which i'm not sure it is.
Plus once I went back to Epic Rom, it appears that my Data partition stays encrypted so I have to put my pin in at each boot. - Not cool at all..
So, for now I am staying away from RR until Encryption isn't forced on me and its Rooted out of the box.
I've tried RR but I do not like stock android feel and lack of... well lack of MIUi. For all its faults, I just love MIUi IU and many of its basic features. Didn't like substratum either and the necessity of using third party launchers to modify grids and icons...
Anyway, so far Epic Pro is working really well for me.
Regarding encryption... I had not paid any attention to it when I flashed RR... What does it entail? It stays when you go back to Epic??
Thanks!
omniphil said:
Plus once I went back to Epic Rom, it appears that my Data partition stays encrypted so I have to put my pin in at each boot. - Not cool at all..
So, for now I am staying away from RR until Encryption isn't forced on me and its Rooted out of the box.
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Just wanted to understand, why does everyone show hate to encryption here? How is it bad, besides pin at boot and tiny bit slow at opening apps and other tasks?
Does RR has Dual App function as MIUI/EPIC
And RR is rooted or not?
sweetdreamz338 said:
Does RR has Dual App function as MIUI/EPIC
And RR is rooted or not?
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No.! D.Apps, Sec.Space is Miui only. And very ez to root RR.
RR can use Android Pay which I can't use on stock rom
Leechoonhwee said:
RR can use Android Pay which I can't use on stock rom
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Yes with magisk for root and something else I forgotten, something about xiaomi safety net. Plenty of threads and very easy, as a side note official LOS released and is very stable, doubt you will want miui after trying this. Although it's not in ROM section of XDA its in guides and news.
jazz452 said:
Yes with magisk for root and something else I forgotten, something about xiaomi safety net. Plenty of threads and very easy, as a side note official LOS released and is very stable, doubt you will want miui after trying this. Although it's not in ROM section of XDA its in guides and news.
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Oh yeah that's the same procedure for RR. Magisk plus Xiaomi safety net.
I don't want to leave EPIC/MIUI because it's still smoother than any of the CM-type ROMs. I rarely get any stuttering/slowdown compared to RR/Lineage. Even when I use kernel overclocking (DragonXia), which should make it perform better, the Antutu scores (and general responsiveness) still don't match MIUI. Also, I'd lose some features that I like
- Pulling down to hide the dock. Sounds like a very minor feature but I love being able to quickly dismiss the dock when I'm in an app for a more immersive experience, especially since we have software buttons and not hardware ones
- Quick ball, so I can still work with the dock hidden
- Native call recording (I own the skvalex call recorder app so this isn't a huge deal)
- Themes. I know themes are part of pretty much every ROM but I just prefer the MIUI layout
- Second space. Very useful for having a second instance of an app that's separate from your main one
The performance is still the main MIUI draw though.
There are other minor niggles with RR/LOS like no unlock sound on FP scanner and slower to unlock with it. I believe there is still an issue with the speakerphone/echo too.
Problems that I have with MIUI would be
- No Smart Unlock for location (annoying that I can't have it unlocked at frequently visited places), nor does it work with bluetooth in my car
- No previews/functionality for some notifications (mainly Gmail), so i have to open every email to see if it's worth reading, *and* I can't delete/archive it from the notification either. Big waste of time
- Doesn't currently pass safetynet so it's impossible to use some apps like Snapchat. Doesn't seem to matter which Magisk version I use, still no luck
- Using Nova Launcher, sometimes it'll take a few seconds to load the home screen icons if I have been away from it for a while. I assume this is down to the aggressive killing of background apps in MIUI. I tried the persistent option in Nova but it didn't seem to make any difference and couldn't see a way to whitelist it in MIUI
What if I go back to an MM-based version of EPIC? If I do that I'll be able to get the smart unlock working via Xposed and it'll pass safetynet (as far as I can see), but would I lose anything?
If I go back to RR, is there a way to toggle the dock on/off like MIUI? Can I get an unlock sound for the FP scanner? As for the performance issues, I delete all the perf-related files as I do on EPIC and match the settings in Kernel Auditor but it still lags behind (~140k compared to ~155k in Antutu) and with the UI/apps in general.
Pros for RR/Lineage:
-Stock AOSP looks
-Interactive notifications
-Notification icons on status bar much more clear
-Much less bloatware
-No "MIUI optimizations" that kill performance (although you can turn these off in MIUI, still annoying)
-Ambient display
-Better spaced Nav bar buttons
-Nav bar color doesn't flicker between screens
-Default camera has slow-mo and lens blur
-Pass safetynet (use android pay, pokemon go, etc)
-Multiwindow
-customize nav button actions
-Flashlight shortcut with screen off
-Custom kernel available (dragonxia)
Pros for MIUI:
-Screen turns on much quicker when power button pressed
-Fingerprint reader much faster
-Front facing camera flips images by default
-Better battery life
-Screen gets brighter and dimmer
-Auto brightness works properly
-Microphone works on speaker phone
Hardware works better on MIUI, software works better on RR/Lineage. The wake lag on Lineage/RR was a dealbreaker for me, but god is MIUI software bad.
omniphil said:
I'm sure it can be, but not with the usual SuperSU way, I didn't really have time to go figure out how to get root all setup. I assumed the rom was pre-rooted which i'm not sure it is.
Plus once I went back to Epic Rom, it appears that my Data partition stays encrypted so I have to put my pin in at each boot. - Not cool at all..
So, for now I am staying away from RR until Encryption isn't forced on me and its Rooted out of the box.
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Never had that encryption problem on RR or going back to Epic... Strange.
For my test a blend would be the perfect thing: basically all Epic plus the various customizations settings' option from RR :victory:
Would that be so difficult or impossible to build? I mean not for me, I know nothing of the actual stuff, but for one of those good developers that own the Mix and love a good challenge Or not so good, maybe it'd be easier than I imagine...
Hi people, after testing a couple of custom roms in the search for better performance I have figured out that the official MIUI rom is the best in performance, stability and battery management. (With some tweaks)
First tested the crDroid rom posted here. It is beautiful, simple, lighweight, the first time I flashed it I made the mistake of enabling aditional protection with pattern, then everytime it booted started of asking for pattern before boot (taking more time), getting slow, it crashed once, reflashed, didn't activated the aditional protection and everything worked good, only the proximity sensor where not working, the performance in UI was great, but gaming it didn't.
Second I tested Bootleggers ROM posted here. It's beautiful too, even more, the splash screen after logo is amazing, in my experience it works better than crDroids, all features worked as intended, very fluid UI, face unlock didn't work as in crDroids, voice match did it, but in gaming it was the same, the performance where not as good as it is in MIUI.
Some things to take into account:
-I flashed both of them with Open Gapps Nano from here used ARM64, Android 9, nano, it
worked better than the pico included in both posts because with pico voice match was not working.
-In both roms flashed Evira Kenerl 1.9, maybe isn't compatible with crDroids rom and because of that the proximity sensor where
not working, in Bootleggers rom Evira Kernel 1.5 is included, so there doesn't should be any compatibility issue.
-The game that I tested in both was PUBG Mobile, any of them played it in full screen mode (the notch bar), in MIUI it is played in
full screen mode.
-I use MIUI Global 10.3.5 debloated with Saki/EU tool from here and Evira Kernel 1.9, no battery savers from Magisk
What I saw is that the battery performance is almost the same in any of them, the system performance is fluid in any of them, including MIUI, but games performance is better in MIUI, there are no bugs (for what I know), face unlock works great, the fingerprint recognition in MIUI is better, stock camera offers manual mode, Gcam port from BSG is the best one and works perfect in the roms that I tested, and the most important thing that I noted is that the RAM usage in the three roms is almost the same, in MIUI I get 2+ GB of free RAM as in the custom roms.
So, because all of this my conclusion is that for now is better to stay in MIUI, it has OTA updates, is stable, bug free, and performs really great, even better in games in my experience.
Thanks.
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Eddywarez said:
Hi people, after testing a couple of custom roms in the search for better performance I have figured out that the official MIUI rom is the best in performance, stability and battery management. (With some tweaks)
First tested the crDroid rom posted here. It is beautiful, simple, lighweight, the first time I flashed it I made the mistake of enabling aditional protection with pattern, then everytime it booted started of asking for pattern before boot (taking more time), getting slow, it crashed once, reflashed, didn't activated the aditional protection and everything worked good, only the proximity sensor where not working, the performance in UI was great, but gaming it didn't.
Second I tested Bootleggers ROM posted here. It's beautiful too, even more, the splash screen after logo is amazing, in my experience it works better than crDroids, all features worked as intended, very fluid UI, face unlock didn't work as in crDroids, voice match did it, but in gaming it was the same, the performance where not as good as it is in MIUI.
Some things to take into account:
-I flashed both of them with Open Gapps Nano from here used ARM64, Android 9, nano, it
worked better than the pico included in both posts because with pico voice match was not working.
-In both roms flashed Evira Kenerl 1.9, maybe isn't compatible with crDroids rom and because of that the proximity sensor where
not working, in Bootleggers rom Evira Kernel 1.5 is included, so there doesn't should be any compatibility issue.
-The game that I tested in both was PUBG Mobile, any of them played it in full screen mode (the notch bar), in MIUI it is played in
full screen mode.
-I use MIUI Global 10.3.5 debloated with Saki/EU tool from here and Evira Kernel 1.9, no battery savers from Magisk
What I saw is that the battery performance is almost the same in any of them, the system performance is fluid in any of them, including MIUI, but games performance is better in MIUI, there are no bugs (for what I know), face unlock works great, the fingerprint recognition in MIUI is better, stock camera offers manual mode, Gcam port from BSG is the best one and works perfect in the roms that I tested, and the most important thing that I noted is that the RAM usage in the three roms is almost the same, in MIUI I get 2+ GB of free RAM as in the custom roms.
So, because all of this my conclusion is that for now is better to stay in MIUI, it has OTA updates, is stable, bug free, and performs really great, even better in games in my experience.
Thanks.
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thanks for sharing your experience!
right now, I haven't root my phone yet. based on your experience, I think I won't root my phone (at least until there's the most stable & efficient rom or until the warranty period expires).
you said that you use evira kernel. so, is it worth it to root my phone just for this kernel?
(sorry for my bad english)
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FuadIrfani said:
thanks for sharing your experience!
right now, I haven't root my phone yet. based on your experience, I think I won't root my phone (at least until there's the most stable & efficient rom or until the warranty period expires).
you said that you use evira kernel. so, is it worth it to root my phone just for this kernel?
(sorry for my bad english)
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Well, if you unlock your bootloader the warranty will be void, if you decide to do it I recommend you to root your phone with this guide from HERE, with root you can use Adaway for blocking all ads in your mobile, in any way Magisk is required to flash Evira Kernel, and it worth the proccess, the battery will last longer and the performance can be improved; is up to you.
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Yup bro if you need your phone for gaming then it's always a basic rule “Custom ROMS are not made for gaming”
Which means you better stick with the stock rom for the full gaming experience
But doesn't it bother you that you don't see notifications in your status bar and lockscreen?
This is the only reason that made me switch to custom roms..
AbboodSY said:
Yup bro if you need your phone for gaming then it's always a basic rule “Custom ROMS are not made for gaming”
Which means you better stick with the stock rom for the full gaming experience
But doesn't it bother you that you don't see notifications in your status bar and lockscreen?
This is the only reason that made me switch to custom roms..
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I am on MIUI 10.4 by xiaomi.eu 9.5.16 Beta and I see every notification on my lockscreen, when I allow them to be seen in App settings. On status bar see like 3-4 icons, but you can add priority to the notification icons, so it's not problem at all. Why is everybody saying that you can't see notifications?
When I was on MIUI Global 10.3 (before unlock timer expired) I could also see all of my notifications.
Eddywarez said:
Well, if you unlock your bootloader the warranty will be void, if you decide to do it I recommend you to root your phone with this guide from HERE, with root you can use Adaway for blocking all ads in your mobile, in any way Magisk is required to flash Evira Kernel, and it worth the proccess, the battery will last longer and the performance can be improved; is up to you.
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which twrp did you use? and which would you recommend? unlocking mine in 14hours. need some feedback
Any suggestions for Evira Kernel to have better battery life and good performance?
aron11195 said:
which twrp did you use? and which would you recommend? unlocking mine in 14hours. need some feedback
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you can use this recovery..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...overy-unofficial-twrp-touch-recovery-t3921637
But if you love your rn7's camera then don't use any of the custom or miui based custom roms... Camera performance is always better in the stock rom.
What I did was, after trying every other roms I've switched back to the stock china rom, flashed magisk and used titanium backup (paid v) app to debloat the rom of useless apps.
I've also tried the global rom but found the china roms camera performance to be superior.
Pavel Sajjad Khan said:
you can use this recovery..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...overy-unofficial-twrp-touch-recovery-t3921637
But if you love your rn7's camera then don't use any of the custom or miui based custom roms... Camera performance is always better in the stock rom.
What I did was, after trying every other roms I've switched back to the stock china rom, flashed magisk and used titanium backup (paid v) app to debloat the rom of useless apps.
I've also tried the global rom but found the china roms camera performance to be superior.
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how about xiaomi.eu? ever tried that? since its based on stock china miui rom.. coz if ever i dont like crdroid im just gonna flash xiaomi.eu instead of going to stock rom
hi guys. little question about elvira kernel. could you confirm that it works perfectly with the rom miui ? does it improve the battery?
ArzZenic said:
I am on MIUI 10.4 by xiaomi.eu 9.5.16 Beta and I see every notification on my lockscreen, when I allow them to be seen in App settings. On status bar see like 3-4 icons, but you can add priority to the notification icons, so it's not problem at all. Why is everybody saying that you can't see notifications?
When I was on MIUI Global 10.3 (before unlock timer expired) I could also see all of my notifications.
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What do you mean by this?
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Settings - Notification & status bar - App notifications - Your app - Notification categories - Your category - Importance - Set on HIGH from Default/Low/Minimal
This also (from my experience) sorts the icons on the status bar, so apps with higher "importance" are shown in the situation, in which you have too many notification icons.
My impressions
Hello everyone
I Just bought a Redimi Note 7 after a quite long time using Samsung S8.
There is a couple thing really bothering me like
The swipe up opening google search.
I can't sort the apps alphabetically (really sucks)
The camera seems to be a little too dark (like the default cfg needs a tweak)
Infinite screen seems to be in conflict with the swipe up google search thing.
I got a couple of photos to compare the stock camera from the S8 and the Redmi
But the forum anti span wont let me
Zayatoshi said:
hi guys. little question about elvira kernel. could you confirm that it works perfectly with the rom miui ? does it improve the battery?
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Hi, it works pefect at 1.9 version, for better battery I use alucardsched for CPU governors and zen for I/O scheduler, you should disable fsync in miscellaneous, I did it and no problem at all, it improves a lot the performance for wiriting/reading process in ROM.
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edublind said:
Hello everyone
I Just bought a Redimi Note 7 after a quite long time using Samsung S8.
There is a couple thing really bothering me like
The swipe up opening google search.
I can't sort the apps alphabetically (really sucks)
The camera seems to be a little too dark (like the default cfg needs a tweak)
Infinite screen seems to be in conflict with the swipe up google search thing.
I got a couple of photos to compare the stock camera from the S8 and the Redmi
But the forum anti span wont let me
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Use another launcher, lawnchair for example and you solve the two first "problem"
ArzZenic said:
I am on MIUI 10.4 by xiaomi.eu 9.5.16 Beta and I see every notification on my lockscreen, when I allow them to be seen in App settings. On status bar see like 3-4 icons, but you can add priority to the notification icons, so it's not problem at all. Why is everybody saying that you can't see notifications?
When I was on MIUI Global 10.3 (before unlock timer expired) I could also see all of my notifications.
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Can you show me some screenshots of notifications like Facebook or Whatsapp on your status bar?
Just a quick tip and a call for help lol
If you face issues using Android auto + Waze and Xiaomi devices .
Set the power saving settings to no restrictions o both Android auto and Waze.
Go to app management and select the app to do It.
The problem I'm having now is .
When I receive an audio on WhatsApp I click play it starts playing on the speaker but it do not transfer to the ear speaker when I bring it close to my face .
Anyone knows how to fix it ?
ArzZenic said:
Settings - Notification & status bar - App notifications - Your app - Notification categories - Your category - Importance - Set on HIGH from Default/Low/Minimal
This also (from my experience) sorts the icons on the status bar, so apps with higher "importance" are shown in the situation, in which you have too many notification icons.
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Thanks. I don't have it, I just got MIUI 10.3.3.0 EU. This importance thing must be a MIUI 10.4 feature.
Very good write up. I'm sure there are many people who are sticking with stock rom for now with same/similar experiences or reasons. I'm one of them.
What app should I debloat??
Eddywarez said:
Hi people, after using a couple of custom roms in the search for better performance I have figured out that the official MIUI rom is the best in performance, stability and battery management. (With some tweaks)
First tested the crDroid rom posted here. It is beautiful, simple, lighweight, the first time I flashed it I made the mistake of enabling aditional protection with pattern, then everytime it booted started of asking for pattern before boot (taking more time), getting slow, it crashed once, reflashed, didn't activated the aditional protection and everything worked good, only the proximity sensor where not working, the performance in UI was great, but gaming it didn't.
Second I tested Bootleggers ROM posted here. It's beautiful too, even more, the splash screen after logo is amazing, in my experience it works better than crDroids, all features worked as intended, very fluid UI, face unlock didn't work as in crDroids, voice match did it, but in gaming it was the same, the performance where not as good as it is in MIUI.
Some things to take into account:
-I flashed both of them with Open Gapps Nano from here used ARM64, Android 9, nano, it
worked better than the pico included in both posts because with pico voice match was not working.
-In both roms flashed Evira Kenerl 1.9, maybe isn't compatible with crDroids rom and because of that the proximity sensor where
not working, in Bootleggers rom Evira Kernel 1.5 is included, so there doesn't should be any compatibility issue.
-The game that I tested in both was PUBG Mobile, any of them played it in full screen mode (the notch bar), in MIUI it is played in
full screen mode.
-I use MIUI Global 10.3.5 debloated with Saki/EU tool from here and Evira Kernel 1.9, no battery savers from Magisk
What I saw is that the battery performance is almost the same in any of them, the system performance is fluid in any of them, including MIUI, but games performance is better in MIUI, there are no bugs (for what I know), face unlock works great, the fingerprint recognition in MIUI is better, stock camera offers manual mode, Gcam port from BSG is the best one and works perfect in the roms that I tested, and the most important thing that I noted is that the RAM usage in the three roms is almost the same, in MIUI I get 2+ GB of free RAM as in the custom roms.
So, because all of this my conclusion is that for now is better to stay in MIUI, it has OTA updates, is stable, bug free, and performs really great, even better in games in my experience.
Thanks.
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Nice advice dude,,, can you show me what app should i debloat from RN7? This is my 3rd xiaomi phone (the expensive one, and official warranty), i dont want to root/ubl until the warranty is expired. I dont need miui app, its sucks,,, many thanks before for your answer...
I read somewhere that you can choose the Asus UI or stock Android UI when setting up the phone. Is that true or do you have to buy something like a "Google play edition" phone to get the stock Android UI?
loudog3114 said:
I read somewhere that you can choose the Asus UI or stock Android UI when setting up the phone. Is that true or do you have to buy something like a "Google play edition" phone to get the stock Android UI?
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From what I have read, only the international version will have that option. The china version is locked down to the ROG ui
I can confirm (I have the chinese Tencent version), the non-global version does not offer this option.
ROG UI is not the worst though, the logic and behaviour is quite stock, it's of course visually where it's a bit... intense.
aolazaba said:
I can confirm (I have the chinese Tencent version), the non-global version does not offer this option.
ROG UI is not the worst though, the logic and behaviour is quite stock, it's of course visually where it's a bit... intense.
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Yeah its a pretty awful... brown.
Personally, Google stock rom experience is so boring. ASUS latest stock roms are one of the best roms I had to experience. They add a few essential apps and not useless bloatware and even if you redeem them to be you can easily uninstall them if you wish so.
Can anyone list the feature of this rog UI ?
Though i still prefer stock UI, more simple.
Shady282 said:
Can anyone list the feature of this rog UI ?
Though i still prefer stock UI, more simple.
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-Black/ light mode interface for the settings menu including the notification shade.
-Mobile manager app to control every app in the system, the control is at the system level not like 3rd party apps on the play store.
-Wifi/mobile data control at the system level.
-built in call recorder.
-Game Center/ Armoury Crate.
-ASUS default launcher and local market app store.
-Most importantly "Gesture Navigation" full screen experience without Google useless implementation.
-Dual apps, one hand mode, long screenshot ability, always on panel(removed for now),AI features, gestures to launch certain apps when screen is off.
Other than that it's the Google stock experience.
ASUS roms are very light currently speaking. The rom comes with 4 to 5 Chinese apps at tops of which you can uninstall any time you like.
P.S maybe there are other minor features I forgot to add but the ones i listed are the major ones.
I'm new to the Xiaomi community and I already checked out the mod sections and there's quite alot of them and different versions of an app such as Gcam.
Being new to the 9T pro what adjustments, roms, apps, mods and so on would you suggest for me (and others) to look into or is a must have?
Thanks!
Every device specific mod at the moment requires a very specific rom/vendor image. Currently it's more trouble than it's worth installing a mod. Android 10 kernel source code for miui have yet to be officially released too.
The best imo are:
-Dual Speaker Mod (makes the speaker louder and clearer)
-81hz display overclocking (makes the screen smoother)
-Modded Google camera
-Custom kernel (performance and battery life)
None of the above work for me on Miui 11, except maybe the Google camera. Even on Miui 10 the mods will unlikely work, unless you flash a specific old firmware. In my experience the 6-12+ month mark is when modding becomes stable.
Turbine1991 said:
Every device specific mod at the moment requires a very specific rom/vendor image. Currently it's more trouble than it's worth installing a mod. Android 10 kernel source code for miui have yet to be officially released too.
The best imo are:
-Dual Speaker Mod (makes the speaker louder and clearer)
-81hz display overclocking (makes the screen smoother)
-Modded Google camera
-Custom kernel (performance and battery life)
None of the above work for me on Miui 11, except maybe the Google camera. Even on Miui 10 the mods will unlikely work, unless you flash a specific old firmware. In my experience the 6-12+ month mark is when modding becomes stable.
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Cool, good to know
Is some release of the google camera working correct? It's quite a big improvement. If so, which version should I get?
Hi,
I'm Hummusman and I've been flashing ROMs and modding my phone since the Galaxy S5 (KLTE) days. I'm making this guide in hopes that it makes it easier for you to pick a ROM as per your needs. I will not mention any ROMs that I haven't used.
OXYGEN OS 11
PROS
Decent amount of customization.
One of the best, if not the best fingerprint scanning implementation IMO.
Good Ambient display implementation.
Pretty smooth UI.
Dolby audio genuinely makes your earphone listening experience better.
OnePlus Camera works perfectly as expected. (Unlike some ROMs which have issues with video/portrait mode and on the lockscreen).
CONS
Poor battery life even while using naptime.
Heating issues even while using a custom kernel.
Pushy Oneplus account sign in and cloud services "ads".
No always on display (I don't use it anyway).
Dark mode is not black.
CONCULSION
I'd personally not use it based on the two inital cons. I have heard many people say that they do not have this problem but I do even after clean flashing and restoring using MSM multiple times over multiple updates. Use it if you're lazy or afraid of bricking your phone by flashing a ROM. (Highly unlikely)
OXYGEN OS 10
CONCLUSION
This is by far the best version of oxygen os so far but I would not use it and also don't recommend you use it for only one reason and that is thats its old and has older security patches.
Pixel Experience (Plus)
I'm not including the non plus version here because I haven't used it. But I presume that it is very similar and I recommend using the plus version.
PROS
Very stable
Excellent battery life. I don't use my phone a lot (~3.5-4 hours of SOT) so I get around 1.5-2 days on a single charge. Keep in mind that I use naptime (not very agressively)
OnePlus Camera Included
Good Fingerprint Scanning Implementation
Unlimited Photos Storage
Like the name suggests, mostly stock pixel experience
CONS
If it matters to you, there aren't many features in this ROM. Styles and wallpapers theming is also very limited with only a few accent colors. There is only one clock style.
Just like many ROMs, the Fingerprint scanning area is not as large as stock OOS.
CONCLUSION
This is the ROM I'd recommend if you're priority is stability and battery over all else. Not recommended if you're interested in tweaking your phone to the max.
DERPFEST
PROS
Best in class features and themeing options. Has lots of UI styles, accent colors and clock options. Lots of other tweaks are present.
Pretty stable with minimal bugs.
Above average-great battery life.
Good FIngerprint scanning implementation
Unlimited Photos Storage
OnePlus Camera Included.
All in all a well rounded ROM
CONS
Fingerpint scanning area is not as large as OOS.
Inlcuded OnePlus camera does not have macro mode as of now.
CONCLUSION
I initially had a bad impression of derpfest when it was a beta release as it had bad battery life and some heating issues. Now, since the release of the stable version, this is a very nice ROM and I recommend it for a good balanced experience. I personally use this ROM a lot.
CrDroid & XTENDED XR
To be fair, I haven't used these ROMs lately. I used to use crdroid as my daily ROM while derpfest was in its beta stage. Thus I will skip the pros and cons and jump to the conclusion. I recommend that you try them yourself first.
CONCLUSION
Both are solid ROMs and XTENDED has one of the most personal theming experience with lots of customization. But something feels off about this ROM and I can't put my finger down on what exactly causes this. My guess is that its something to do with it being based on Lineage OS and IMO something feels off about Lineage OS as well compared to AOSP. Its worth mentioning that both include the OnePlus Camera.
HAVOC OS
PROS
Pretty stable with minimal to no bugs.
Good fingerprint scanning implementation with the correct sized scanning area.
Has working screen off fingerprint. Keep in mind that this will disable ambient display.
Unlimited photos storage
OnePlus camera included.
All existing features are very polished and are well implemented.
All in all a very smooth ROM.
CONS
HORRIBLE BATTERY LIFE. Idle drain is ridiculous even with naptime installed. I slept with 90-95% battery left at 1130PM. Woke up the next day with 72%. If you sleep with 20-30% left, YOUR PHONE WILL BE DEAD WHEN YOU WAKE UP.
Fingerprint animations are turned on by default and this causes fingerprint to not work at all for some reason. (Turning animations off makes it work)
CONCLUSION
I had been using havocos daily on my OnePlus 3 and I felt that it was one of the best if not the best ROM in existence. I am severly dissapointed that I cannot use havoc os daily because of its poor battery life.
DOT OS [Update 17/10/2021]
PROS
I love the unique material you port that this ROM offers which picks an accent color from your wallpaper.
Good feature selection. Has all of the essentials with some goodies.
Interesting MIUI based theme (can be considered a con based on your preference but IMO its a breath of fresh air from all the generic AOSP ROMS)
Decent Performance (some lags in the qs panel) and decent battery life (~3 47mins with medium to heavy use (16%left)) (Have only used it for one cycle at this point)
CONS
Fingerprint scanning implementation is hit or miss. Works fine now with the white scanning icon.
UI can be a tad buggy at times. I feel that the MIUI skin contributes to this.
Hasn't been updated in a while. (5.2 has been announced and not yet released)
No OnePlus camera app currently.
CONCLUSION
Nice ROM which is let down by the poor implementation of core features. I would daily drive this ROM if the fingerprint implementation was good and OnePlus camera app was included. (I hope both of these are fixed with the 5.2 release)
Paranoid Android Ruby Beta
I've only used this rom briefly becuase of its single and old release and the lack of the OnePlus camera app. Its a good ROM but I wouldn't recommend you daily drive it as it seems pretty dead in its current state.
Android Ice Cold Project
Again, I used this ROM only briefly as
Installing it was a pain in the ass.
No Gapps included.
Developer came off as a bit hostile
Lacks some core features while focusing on niche features.
All this might have changed as the last time I used this ROM was a atleast 5-6 months back. Try it if you want and if you know what you're doing.
Lineage OS
Lineage OS is Lineage OS. Nothing more to say.
My Personal Favourites
PIXEL EXPERIENCE (BEST STABILITY AND BATTERY LIFE)
DERPFEST (AMAZING CUSTOMIZATION AND GOOD STABILITY AND BATTERY LIFE)
Flashing Tips
Since this phone does not have a fully working TWRP, it might be tricky for people to figure out how to flash ROMs for this device. Many ROM developers tell you to extract the payload.bin and flash each partition to each slop separetely. This is very tedious and boring and I hate doing this. It is not even foolproof and doesn't work many times.
So, the most foolproof and easiest way to flash a ROM is...
Using the guide on the lineage os downloads page.
You can skip some steps if you are alraedy on a custom ROM. (Pre install instructions and before)
Just replace the lineage os ROM zip with your prefferred ROM and flash. I have tested it to work with every ROM in this guide.
How I switch ROMS (Custom -> Custom not OOS -> Custom)
Use Migrate to back up all apps and their data. (Requires Root) (Don't forget to copy zip to your PC)
Boot to recovery. Enter fastboot (in advanced)
Perform fastboot -w
Boot to recovery and format data
Adb sideload ROM
Set up ROM
Boot back to recovery and flash magisk using adb sideload.
Install migrate helper to restore all my apps and data.
Some things to note:
You can use the lineage os recovery to flash magisk very easily. Rename magisk.apk to magisk.zip (get it from github), go to recovery and abd sideload it. You will have to skip signature verification.
If for some reason, your ROM does not boot after you have sidealded it, go back to the recovery and click on format data. This fixes it 99% of times.
Tweaks I Use
Youtube Vanced and YT Music Vanced
Naptime and servicely
Rboard themes (get from telegram)
Franco Kernel Manager to reduce vibration intensity in some ROMS. I also sometimes apply an underclock.
Thank you for reading. Please ingnore spelling and grammar mistakes as I'm to lazy to install grammarly and I'm not a native english speaker.
A real thank's for your feedback. I have a question that I asked in Derpfest forum, Im on OOS 10.0.3.1 and my bootloader is unlocked, can I root without wiping data? The goal is to backup all my apps with data for restoring on Derpfest rom
Thank you again
mehditop said:
A real thank's for your feedback. I have a question that I asked in Derpfest forum, Im on OOS 10.0.3.1 and my bootloader is unlocked, can I root without wiping data? The goal is to backup all my apps with data for restoring on Derpfest rom
Thank you again
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Thank a lot, just saw your answer there
Ok, but... what ROM should i flash if i need a vanilla one(without gapps)? I just used Lineage OS microg version on xda topic, and it has few bugs. Like, the fingerprint is working decent when i configure it, but after a day is not working at all, performance is not that good, even with a custom kernel, and the battery life is not great. I don't want Google's sh!t.
SohrabHamza said:
Hi,
I'm Hummusman and I've been flashing ROMs and modding my phone since the Galaxy S5 (KLTE) days. I'm making this guide in hopes that it makes it easier for you to pick a ROM as per your needs. I will not mention any ROMs that I haven't used.
OXYGEN OS 11
PROS
Decent amount of customization.
One of the best, if not the best fingerprint scanning implementation IMO.
Good Ambient display implementation.
Pretty smooth UI.
Dolby audio genuinely makes your earphone listening experience better.
OnePlus Camera works perfectly as expected. (Unlike some ROMs which have issues with video/portrait mode and on the lockscreen).
CONS
Poor battery life even while using naptime.
Heating issues even while using a custom kernel.
Pushy Oneplus account sign in and cloud services "ads".
No always on display (I don't use it anyway).
Dark mode is not black.
CONCULSION
I'd personally not use it based on the two inital cons. I have heard many people say that they do not have this problem but I do even after clean flashing and restoring using MSM multiple times over multiple updates. Use it if you're lazy or afraid of bricking your phone by flashing a ROM. (Highly unlikely)
OXYGEN OS 10
CONCLUSION
This is by far the best version of oxygen os so far but I would not use it and also don't recommend you use it for only one reason and that is thats its old and has older security patches.
Pixel Experience (Plus)
I'm not including the non plus version here because I haven't used it. But I presume that it is very similar and I recommend using the plus version.
PROS
Very stable
Excellent battery life. I don't use my phone a lot (~3.5-4 hours of SOT) so I get around 1.5-2 days on a single charge. Keep in mind that I use naptime (not very agressively)
OnePlus Camera Included
Good Fingerprint Scanning Implementation
Unlimited Photos Storage
Like the name suggests, mostly stock pixel experience
CONS
If it matters to you, there aren't many features in this ROM. Styles and wallpapers theming is also very limited with only a few accent colors. There is only one clock style.
Just like many ROMs, the Fingerprint scanning area is not as large as stock OOS.
CONCLUSION
This is the ROM I'd recommend if you're priority is stability and battery over all else. Not recommended if you're interested in tweaking your phone to the max.
DERPFEST
PROS
Best in class features and themeing options. Has lots of UI styles, accent colors and clock options. Lots of other tweaks are present.
Pretty stable with minimal bugs.
Above average-great battery life.
Good FIngerprint scanning implementation
Unlimited Photos Storage
OnePlus Camera Included.
All in all a well rounded ROM
CONS
Fingerpint scanning area is not as large as OOS.
Inlcuded OnePlus camera does not have macro mode as of now.
CONCLUSION
I initially had a bad impression of derpfest when it was a beta release as it had bad battery life and some heating issues. Now, since the release of the stable version, this is a very nice ROM and I recommend it for a good balanced experience. I personally use this ROM a lot.
CrDroid & XTENDED XR
To be fair, I haven't used these ROMs lately. I used to use crdroid as my daily ROM while derpfest was in its beta stage. Thus I will skip the pros and cons and jump to the conclusion. I recommend that you try them yourself first.
CONCLUSION
Both are solid ROMs and XTENDED has one of the most personal theming experience with lots of customization. But something feels off about this ROM and I can't put my finger down on what exactly causes this. My guess is that its something to do with it being based on Lineage OS and IMO something feels off about Lineage OS as well compared to AOSP. Its worth mentioning that both include the OnePlus Camera.
HAVOC OS
PROS
Pretty stable with minimal to no bugs.
Good fingerprint scanning implementation with the correct sized scanning area.
Has working screen off fingerprint. Keep in mind that this will disable ambient display.
Unlimited photos storage
OnePlus camera included.
All existing features are very polished and are well implemented.
All in all a very smooth ROM.
CONS
HORRIBLE BATTERY LIFE. Idle drain is ridiculous even with naptime installed. I slept with 90-95% battery left at 1130PM. Woke up the next day with 72%. If you sleep with 20-30% left, YOUR PHONE WILL BE DEAD WHEN YOU WAKE UP.
Fingerprint animations are turned on by default and this causes fingerprint to not work at all for some reason. (Turning animations off makes it work)
CONCLUSION
I had been using havocos daily on my OnePlus 3 and I felt that it was one of the best if not the best ROM in existence. I am severly dissapointed that I cannot use havoc os daily because of its poor battery life.
DOT OS
PROS
I love the unique material you port that this ROM offers which picks an accent color from your wallpaper.
Good feature selection. Has all of the essentials with some goodies.
Interesting MIUI based theme (can be considered a con based on your preference but IMO its a breath of fresh air from all the generic AOSP ROMS0
CONS
Fingerprint scanning implementation is hit or miss.
UI can be a tad buggy at times. I feel that the MIUI skin contributes to this.
Hasn't been updated in a while. (5.2 has been announced and not yet released)
No OnePlus camera app currently.
CONCLUSION
Nice ROM which is let down by the poor implementation of core features. I would daily drive this ROM if the fingerprint implementation was good and OnePlus camera app was included. (I hope both of these are fixed with the 5.2 release)
Paranoid Android Ruby Beta
I've only used this rom briefly becuase of its single and old release and the lack of the OnePlus camera app. Its a good ROM but I wouldn't recommend you daily drive it as it seems pretty dead in its current state.
Android Ice Cold Project
Again, I used this ROM only briefly as
Installing it was a pain in the ass.
No Gapps included.
Developer came off as a bit hostile
Lacks some core features while focusing on niche features.
All this might have changed as the last time I used this ROM was a atleast 5-6 months back. Try it if you want and if you know what you're doing.
Lineage OS
Lineage OS is Lineage OS. Nothing more to say.
My Personal Favourites
PIXEL EXPERIENCE (BEST STABILITY AND BATTERY LIFE)
DERPFEST (AMAZING CUSTOMIZATION AND GOOD STABILITY AND BATTERY LIFE)
Flashing Tips
Since this phone does not have a fully working TWRP, it might be tricky for people to figure out how to flash ROMs for this device. Many ROM developers tell you to extract the payload.bin and flash each partition to each slop separetely. This is very tedious and boring and I hate doing this. It is not even foolproof and doesn't work many times.
So, the most foolproof and easiest way to flash a ROM is...
Using the guide on the lineage os downloads page.
You can skip some steps if you are alraedy on a custom ROM. (Pre install instructions and before)
Just replace the lineage os ROM zip with your prefferred ROM and flash. I have tested it to work with every ROM in this guide.
How I switch ROMS (Custom -> Custom not OOS -> Custom)
Use Migrate to back up all apps and their data. (Requires Root) (Don't forget to copy zip to your PC)
Boot to recovery. Enter fastboot (in advanced)
Perform fastboot -w
Boot to recovery and format data
Adb sideload ROM
Set up ROM
Boot back to recovery and flash magisk using adb sideload.
Install migrate helper to restore all my apps and data.
Some things to note:
You can use the lineage os recovery to flash magisk very easily. Rename magisk.apk to magisk.zip (get it from github), go to recovery and abd sideload it. You will have to skip signature verification.
If for some reason, your ROM does not boot after you have sidealded it, go back to the recovery and click on format data. This fixes it 99% of times.
Tweaks I Use
Youtube Vanced and YT Music Vanced
Naptime and servicely
Rboard themes (get from telegram)
Franco Kernel Manager to reduce vibration intensity in some ROMS. I also sometimes apply an underclock.
Thank you for reading. Please ingnore spelling and grammar mistakes as I'm to lazy to install grammarly and I'm not a native english speaker.
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your analysis is good.
Dragos1221 said:
Ok, but... what ROM should i flash if i need a vanilla one(without gapps)? I just used Lineage OS microg version on xda topic, and it has few bugs. Like, the fingerprint is working decent when i configure it, but after a day is not working at all, performance is not that good, even with a custom kernel, and the battery life is not great. I don't want Google's sh!t.
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Try the new dotos 5.2. Peformance is ok and battery life is decent.
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Try the new dotos 5.2. Peformance is ok and battery life is decent.
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Thank you!
Thinking about to install custom rom again. One thing I wonder is if custom roms has impact on Widevine. Perhaps Widevine only affects if you root?
I was first thinking about trying out Pixel Experience but seems the feature with date in statusbar is not there? Perhaps CrDroid might be a good choice...
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Nice topic, love it
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Thanks!
I will be using the materials from the thread in my essay, I will be ordering it from https://www.wiseessays.com/ so that would be great if anyone shared more information
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I don't understand what you mean. What info do you need and what is the essay about?
Hello, is this guide still actual in 2022 with a12 released?