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This question is directed to those who have taken apart their Kaiser, and specifically screen the screen assembly. I've got water issues and the screen is broke now. Here's the story. I might get some outrageous warranty charges.
I installed the InvisiShield (www.shieldzone.com) on my phone. Essentially it's a screen protector that is indestructible. It practically is, but unfortunately it destroyed my phone. To install it you have to spray this liquid on the back of the 'shield' and apply it to your phone, using a squeegee to get the bubbles out. It went pretty well, and I was happy with the results, but 3 days later my screen stopped working.
Everything is washed out, and it looks like water got inside the LCD somehow. For instance, colors streak across the LCD in fonts, etc.
I called ATT and they are mailing a replacement, and I'll be expected to send this phone back. They said if the return phone has damage that would void warranty (water damage, etc) I'll be prorated $400 on my next bill.
Over the phone the customer representative had me remove the battery and check one of the water damage pads to make sure it was white. It is.
For those who have seen internal phone assembly, is there any of these directly by the screen that will pick up moisture?
As far as ATT knows, the phone LCD suddenly stopped working. I'll get a replacement and /hopefully/ theres not a moisture pad right next to the LCD assembly. Anyone know?
Damn, hate those broken screen story's. Scars the **** out of me.
jon_k said:
This question is directed to those who have taken apart their Kaiser, and specifically screen the screen assembly. I've got water issues and the screen is broke now. Here's the story. I might get some outrageous warranty charges.
I installed the InvisiShield (www.shieldzone.com) on my phone. Essentially it's a screen protector that is indestructible. It practically is, but unfortunately it destroyed my phone. To install it you have to spray this liquid on the back of the 'shield' and apply it to your phone, using a squeegee to get the bubbles out. It went pretty well, and I was happy with the results, but 3 days later my screen stopped working.
Everything is washed out, and it looks like water got inside the LCD somehow. For instance, colors streak across the LCD in fonts, etc.
I called ATT and they are mailing a replacement, and I'll be expected to send this phone back. They said if the return phone has damage that would void warranty (water damage, etc) I'll be prorated $400 on my next bill.
Over the phone the customer representative had me remove the battery and check one of the water damage pads to make sure it was white. It is.
For those who have seen internal phone assembly, is there any of these directly by the screen that will pick up moisture?
As far as ATT knows, the phone LCD suddenly stopped working. I'll get a replacement and /hopefully/ theres not a moisture pad right next to the LCD assembly. Anyone know?
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I dont know but man I hope that there isn't. Have you tried contacting invisishield? Never mind, b/c they'll blame you. Most applicators like that use alcohol to evaporate the remaining moisture that's left. My friend applied it to his, and he used very little liquid(scared), so GOOD LUCK!! I MEAN IT
Tough break, sounds dangerous to pour liquid on the screen though !
On a related matter has anyone seen pics of a Kaiser pulled apart ? Still wondering where the GPS antenna is located !
Yeah, I hope I don't get shafted.
I love the invisibleshield, and I put one on my $1,500 DSLR camera screen, but since the Kaiser screen is recessed a bit, when you squeegee the solution out from under the screen, it cannot be wiped away. It just gets pushed out between the phone's body bezel, and the screen glass -- right in to the phone. With my DSLR camera, the screen is flush with the body, so when squeegee'd I could quickly wipe the water/alcohol away.
Contacting Invisibleshield got me:
Our liability does not extend beyond our product. The lifetime warranty only covers the replacement of the invisibleSHIELD and NOT a warranty for the device the shield is protecting.
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If ATT charges me the $400 if they find out, I guess I'll pay it. It's my fault, but by extension of invisibleshield. Guess I'll learn not to use that product on anything that has a recessed screen. I was thinking of buying an invisible shield for my laptop as well, but it's screen is slightly recessed like the kaiser, so you can forget me doing that!
xmoo said:
Damn, hate those broken screen story's. Scars the **** out of me.
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That was why I bought the 'best screen shield on the market' for scratches (invisibleshield). Coincidentally that was the demise of my phone. I also purchased a steel case that basically would let me sit on my phone (uncomfortably) if i wanted. The desire to protect my phone, did the opposite in my case.
Wow what a horror story. Thanks for sharing with us - may prevent another phone from dying.
Wondering if you remove the battery and not using for a few days until the water dries out before turning it on?
zcink said:
Wow what a horror story. Thanks for sharing with us - may prevent another phone from dying.
Wondering if you remove the battery and not using for a few days until the water dries out before turning it on?
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Could be, zcink. The replacement phone is on it's way. I can remove the battery during this time it takes for the replacement to come and see what happens. Unfortunately, I think one of the following has happened:
1) Water seeped between the LCD protetcive glass, and the LCD itself, and somehow soaked in to the LCD causing mini shorts -- thus resulting in kludged text.
2) Water seeped to the phone's connecting cable where the screen input is, dried on the wires, thus creating a short -- destroying the signal.
Either way, when the liquid dry's, the mineral deposits causing the short will still exist, still causing a short. For both, repair requires disassembly, voiding my warranty. I could buy a new replacement screen from the China place for about $100, but if ATT /might/ replace it without screwing me, I'll take the chance. Just wanted to know what my chances /were/ them finding out it's got water in it.
I guess the moral is.
Don't buy from InvisibleShield, unless you use a SPARING amount of spray they they include. They include a huge bottle, and I used 2 sprays worth applied to my shield. This created enough excess to be squeegeed right into my phones body. The phone worked great for a few days, until one day at work, while I was using it -- BAM -- the screen was dead.
There isn't the water dectector there, but I'm pretty sure the technicians would notice the damaged screen.
I know those screen protectors, used them for alot of things. Using one right now actully. Its the one you wash with soap and warm water, and just let it dry, it have a static adhesive to the the scree.
I see. yeah hopefully the ATT tech will be lazy and just grant you the warranty without investigating. just play dumb. If they charge you the $400 call them up and threaten to switch to T-Mobile.
My phone died and T-Mobile was going to do nothing until I threatened to switch to ATT, then they replaced it.
I seriously doubt that they will be able to tell unless you really soaked it, next time use a dry screen protector, they work just fine, no bubbles. The only moisture sensor is on the battery, and if it was a tiny amount of moisture, there's likely no signs in the screen assembly. AT&T isn't likely going to dissect the screen to check.
Kaiser disassembly howto
I have found this one somewhere here, can't remember where... Hope this helps.
http://www.mediafire.com/?0ly2msnybhb
Hadn't heard of that screen protector before, guess it would work well on an HTC Touch, not sure how the "full body" version works though!
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I have found this one somewhere here, can't remember where... Hope this helps.
http://www.mediafire.com/?0ly2msnybhb
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Amazing find. Thanks!
It appears to me that the screen itself is it's own modular unit. Meaning, after phone disassembly, you'd have to disassemble the actual screen itself. Further, there is no moisture indicators directly by the assembly it seems.
Knock on wood, but I'd hope a tech wouldn't go that far to determine the fault of the phone. I assume they would if theres telltale signs of water damage to the display (streaking might be a common sign.) But, maybe, just maybe, they won't.
http://www.gpspassion.com/download/HTC_Kaiser_disassembly.pdf
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RemE said:
The only moisture sensor is on the battery
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The service manual shows 4 of them, one under the battery that can be seen from the outside, one at the top and one at the bottom of the mainboard's other side, and.. one on the board that holds the bottom front panel switches, so very close to the LCD.
Personally I wouldn't have asked for a replacement phone, I'd have disassembled the phone and tried to clean it if made dirty by the liquid, bought a spare screen off ebay if it was definitely dead, and if ultimately it didn't work bought another phone off ebay for less than $400. But maybe I like risk
Here, Perfect for what you need, used it myself: http://www.mindsofwisemen.com/fileso/other/ReplacingTheLCDonaKaiser.pdf
Best wishes
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Not sure if the above noted guide is officially and with permission uploaded to that site, but to give credit to members here it is (SKDVR’s Adaption of Tony Chen’s guide)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2247685&postcount=19
i took mine apart to replace the screen; pics and info on what i did and where i got it. didn't see any water indicators near the screen when i did it, didn't think to look...
Keyboard membrane removal.
So, I've had trouble with my keyboard lately and wanted to just clean off the contacts on the membrane...but I can't seem to get the damned thing out of the plastic keyboard Middle Housing.
I have gotten everything apart so the housing is separated. Verified that I did it the way the service manual says...but i saw NOTHING about how to disassemble the keyboard from the housing.
PLZ! Pictures are good.
Try replacing digitizer screen
found that digitizer screen is above lcd and can be purcased for about $10 on ebay
hello guys,
my tytn II cant detect simcard saying the simcard is missing.
Any idea whats wrong???
Hi,
Today when I pulled my phone out of my pocket I was greated with a nasty looking crack right down the center of my screen. The crack appears to have stemmed from the earpiece downwards.
I have had the phone for 18 months now and as far as I'm aware I didn't knock, drop or apply any pressure to it. Has anyone had any experience of the screen cracking on its own?
The screen is still functioning I'm trying to use the stylus with a light touch for now, I'm not sure how long I've got before it breaks altogether?
How much do new screens cost? I imagine it wouldn't be worth replacing since I could probably purchase a new phone for a similar price.
Thanks
Ric
Mines been cracked for months and still works ok and like
you I have no Idea how it happened,
You can get the LCD Display and touch Screen from Ebay for around £25,
which is what I will be doing when mine finally packs in
£25 is much better than I'd imagined. I'll see how I get on with the cracked screen. It's not too bad if I look at it straight on.
My contract is over with O2 at the end of this month so I don't have long to wait to get a new phone. I was hoping to maybe sell this phone, so changing the screen might be a good option for me.
Thanks
My HTC Hero has a broken touch screen and LCD screen.
Can anyone suggest a cheap place to get them from?
And if anyone is wondering how it broke, I ran it over with my van.
Not intentionally of course.
Phone is from Alltel so it would be $95 to claim it on insurance
Also does anyone have any suggestions what I can put on the screen until I can replace it? It's rough on the fingers to use because of the cracks.
EBAY
Yup eBay has every spare part you would want for your Hero. I just ordered a digitizer yesterday (thats your screen), and that all you need to replace if behind the broken digitizer is a clear picture on your lcd.
This has happened to me twice. I got replacement on ebay for 30 dollars. It includes the whole front panel, touch screen digitizer, and lcd screen. It took me 5 minutes to replace. Just a couple of screws and a connector. Easy Peasy!
I dropped my hero yesterday as well. There was no damage to the screen/ LCD but there are a few scratches to the body. Are there replacements for that as well?
Supposedly sprint will fix any physical damages to the phone, as long as it still works.
supposed to do it for $35 in store without the $7 protection plan.
http://bit.ly/g5RfAB < Goes to the repair part of sprint's website.
I haven't tried it, so let us know if they will fix it.
I was quoted $35 by two different sprint stores to replace my screen. Still haven't fixed it yet, it is only a small crack in the corner and doesn't bug me that much.
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CraigCraig said:
My HTC Hero has a broken touch screen and LCD screen.
Can anyone suggest a cheap place to get them from?
And if anyone is wondering how it broke, I ran it over with my van.
Not intentionally of course.
Phone is from Alltel so it would be $95 to claim it on insurance
Also does anyone have any suggestions what I can put on the screen until I can replace it? It's rough on the fingers to use because of the cracks.
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Put regular tape over it
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-HERO-OEM-LC...919428?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f057b8004
I bought that before..include LCD, Digitizer, and Front Bezel. The bezel was scuffed up and had a few nicks but the digitizer and LCD were in perfect condition.
Don't try that at home
Based on personal experience
I strongly advise against attempting a DIY screen replacement.
Here's my sad story:
1) I dropped my poor little hero, then managed to step on it screen down, completely scratching the entire screen surface.
2) I went on eBay and spent about $40 for a replacement screen/digitizer kit.
3) The kit arrived 10 days later. Very nice package - appeared to be high quality.
4) I followed the directions to the letter. (fwiw I'm generally pretty skilled at this sort of repair stuff, and have repaired other phones and computers with good results).
5) My little hero is no more. It works like crap. None of the buttons work correctly. The trackball no longer works consistently. It's essentially unusable (except maybe as a backup storage device).
If any good can come of this, perhaps it will be that others will read my sad tale and avoid a similar fate!
Yours,
Jim
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Based on personal experience
I strongly advise against attempting a DIY screen replacement.
Here's my sad story:
1) I dropped my poor little hero, then managed to step on it screen down, completely scratching the entire screen surface.
2) I went on eBay and spent about $40 for a replacement screen/digitizer kit.
3) The kit arrived 10 days later. Very nice package - appeared to be high quality.
4) I followed the directions to the letter. (fwiw I'm generally pretty skilled at this sort of repair stuff, and have repaired other phones and computers with good results).
5) My little hero is no more. It works like crap. None of the buttons work correctly. The trackball no longer works consistently. It's essentially unusable (except maybe as a backup storage device).
If any good can come of this, perhaps it will be that others will read my sad tale and avoid a similar fate!
Yours,
Jim
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When you stepped on it it probably damaged the motherboard or some other part because the digitizer doesn't really have anything to do with the trackball.
You do have to make sure the trackball housing is inserted correctly in the new bezel. Also, do not overtighten the screws on the bottom or the buttons work wonky. I just tightened them a little, checked, and made sure I didn't over tighten.
Yes, I already broke my phone. Go ahead, grin and chuckle..now that you've gotten it out of your system, anyone want to offer a little guidance? Never disassembled a newer cellphone before. New glass is ordered and has been shipped, just waiting for it to arrive. I'm hoping the process is fairly simple. I do have a specialized set of screwdrivers with all the hard-to-find bits, so that's not a problem ..it even has the tiny blackberry bit.. but from what I can see HTC uses standard micro Philips screws. Yay for standard formats!
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If this phone is anything like hd2 you're gunna want the flat pry tools they sell (search hd2 screen replacement tools). Their not needed but a nice handy thingy to have, other wise you might crack your LCD from flexing it too much.
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I wont grin and chuckle too much, I broke my Atrix after 4 days.
The Vivid screen seems very fragile. 2 of my coworkers have broken theirs within a few weeks of having them. Small drops from waist distance. Its too bad because I have seen the current Samsung models dropped from 6 feet face first and survive
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Yeah, I've cracked mine as well. If you google HTC raider teardown on YouTube.. There's a vid.... Butttt, it's not in English and it's a teardown not a screen replacement tutorial.
It seems as thought HTC has been using reeeeally thin glass in their devices.
Whered you get the glass? It'd be very thoughtful of you to do a tutorial as you do it. I really want to replacement mine but if you remove one on the screws by the battery it voids your warranty
Send it to HTC then? You get a 1 year warranty when you buy the phone.
Honestly, I think Corning had another incident of releasing faulty glass. I've dropped mine numerous times, from pretty high up and I don't have a single scratch on my phone.
travisxcore said:
Send it to HTC then? You get a 1 year warranty when you buy the phone.
Honestly, I think Corning had another incident of releasing faulty glass. I've dropped mine numerous times, from pretty high up and I don't have a single scratch on my phone.
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How much is it for them to fix it?
I have no idea. Shoot them an email (not Support Inquiry, youre gonna wanna send it to Repair Inquiry) and they should be able to tell you. Make sure you fill out the S/N box out now, or their just gonna send you an email back asking for it.
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I have no idea. Shoot them an email (not Support Inquiry, youre gonna wanna send it to Repair Inquiry) and they should be able to tell you. Make sure you fill out the S/N box out now, or their just gonna send you an email back asking for it.
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I'll do that right now. Thanks alot
(sorry to hijack the thread lol)
They use a double sided tape that hopefully comes with your replacement screen , I tried to replace a water damaged screen and it really wasn't a fun process
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It didn't fall very far..
Yeah when mine fell I had it in a shirt pocket, bent over to pick something up and it slid out, fell about a foot and a half..directly onto the search button corner on ceramic tile. Crunch. I ordered a new panel from tmart.com .. I got a confirmation email back on the 4th saying its been shipped via usps.. should be here soon. I hope it comes with everything I need - cost me about $50.00 with the shipping and everything. I paid the extra 3 bucks for insurance lol..
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Yeah when mine fell I had it in a shirt pocket, bent over to pick something up and it slid out, fell about a foot and a half..directly onto the search button corner on ceramic tile. Crunch. I ordered a new panel from tmart.com .. I got a confirmation email back on the 4th saying its been shipped via usps.. should be here soon. I hope it comes with everything I need - cost me about $50.00 with the shipping and everything. I paid the extra 3 bucks for insurance lol..
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So, how was the installation process? And did it come with the adhesive? I'm going to buy it from that site as well
And then it was fixed..! FTW!
Ok sorry for the delay getting back to you guys.. been frantically waiting for the screen to clear US customs (ugh) and arrive, which it finally did today. I was able to get my hands on it at about 3 this afternoon, but I wasn't able to actually look at it until about an hour ago..
So.. I open the package, big grin on my face..and the first thing I notice is that the glass is AT&T branded. Funny, considering I'm in Canada and using Rogers..but hey a digitizer by any other name...and all that. So! I open the bag that my "tools" came in.. There are 2 blue plastic tools, one a prying tool and one looked a lot like a guitar pick. Cool. There are also 2 screwdrivers included, and I'm momentarily excited, until I realize they're just tiny torqx bits. The Raider uses TINY philips head screws, so those were useless. I put them into my tiny tool set..for later consideration.
Back to the screen. Looks like it the real deal, so I watch half of the teardown vid on youtube.. As mentioned in an earlier post it isn't an english-language vid so aside from seeing the locations of the screws and the methods of levering off the internal components, there's no exchange of information going on. I would like to mention however that the video kind of glazes over the locations and removal processes for some sensitive connections, so having only experienced laptop repairs personally.. I was in fairly uncomfortable and unfamiliar territory - but I was determined.
I tried several ways at getting the phone down to its base components, and finally succeeded in locating the panel's ribbon connector interface on one of the phone's circuit boards. I had to remove the back of the phone, pull the batt, sim and sd, and pull the 4 main screws that lock the housing down onto the phone.. From there its a matter of levering off the black plastic shell and whats underneath is a whole lot of tech in a very tight space. There were 3 or 4 wires I had to disconnect, about 15 tiny screws in 3 different lengths, and then when all was said and done I had to pry the busted panel off using the supplied blue lever tool (pretty handy, actually.) and then lift the lcd away from the metal housing enough to slide the old connector out and the new one through.. This was a very tricky process - I drink way too much coffee to hold completely steady for long..lol.. Finally got it all through, but by this time I had smudged the inside of both glass surfaces pretty badly and it took some serious mechanical dexterity to hold the surfaces and wipe them down without wrecking any of the flapping, loose circuit boards, screens, etc.. it was a frightening experience.. I won't lie.. I definitely feared the worst possible outcome given my limited experience.
So.. the panel's ribbon cable is inserted, the white clip back down securing it.. I manage after several attempts to remember how to put the puzzle all back together, and after about 45 minutes of messing with it I had a visually complete phone again. I hit power, and miracle of miracles the HTC logo flashes on the screen.. I'm hopeful..
The phone boots up, looks great (aside from a few smudges I missed on the inside..grr) so I start touching the screen and here's where we have the first problem..lol.. its recognizing that I'm touching the screen..but not really accurately.. it seems to be that there are dead areas.. So now I'm thinking I broke something..lol..
Smoke break.
Took it all apart again, forgot to clean the smudges, removed and re-seated all the connections, and about 15 minutes later I had it back together again. I booted it up and waited.
Success!! It sees where I'm touching accurately now - I think the ribbon must have moved while I was putting it back together, I was shifting things a lot as I was trying to figure it all out, so I must have stressed the cable enough to move it slightly in the slot.. that, or I didn't have it all the way in / straight the first time I did it. Either way, it works fine now. I was successful on the 2nd attempt, and now the only difference is that this glass feels..rougher? less smooth? not sure how to describe it.. it feels different, anyway.. and the at&t logo of course. Aside from that, you'd never know it was in pieces an hour ago..lol.
Would I do this again? ..I hope I don't have to. Its not impossible, but man, if you're going to try this BE SUPER CAREFUL!! lol..
edit: and no - it didn't come with the double sided tape, but it seems to be staying without having to replace it.. it wasn't too hard to remove it from the panel, but getting it back on straight took some finesse.. lol.. it comes apart easier now when you're tryingn to disassemble it..but seems to be holding together fine on its own.
travisxcore said:
Send it to HTC then? You get a 1 year warranty when you buy the phone.
Honestly, I think Corning had another incident of releasing faulty glass. I've dropped mine numerous times, from pretty high up and I don't have a single scratch on my phone.
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Corning makes the glass on the Raider/Vivid?
I would suspect it to be more sturdy if its corning, my SGS has been without a screen protector and still does not have any scratches. Yes i know SGS is Gorilla Glass and this is not but i would think it would be stronger.
@ bproulx
You should take it apart again and make a tutorial . I hope i never have to go though what you did. Knock on wood.
lol..might take it apart again..
So..I have smudges on the inside of the glass. Stupid sweaty fingers. Now I'm tempted to pull it apart again ..but not far enough to make a tutorial lol.. besides.. I'm glad I didn't have a camera on me - you guys woulda had a good laugh at me breaking into a sweat trying to pry loose the glass panel the first time..lol. I know it was already broken but (a) I was trying not to cut myself on it and (b) I was also trying not to break the lcd underneath. Which I believe also has smudges on it. Oi.. I guess I'll have to get in there and clean it. Probably not tonight tho. I'm just glad the thing still works - I was scared I was going to bust something. There are a LOT of little things in there. For the record the CPU looks neat. Its smaller than a sim card, a little bigger than a micro sd. Pretty impressive.
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So..I have smudges on the inside of the glass. Stupid sweaty fingers. Now I'm tempted to pull it apart again ..but not far enough to make a tutorial lol.. besides.. I'm glad I didn't have a camera on me - you guys woulda had a good laugh at me breaking into a sweat trying to pry loose the glass panel the first time..lol. I know it was already broken but (a) I was trying not to cut myself on it and (b) I was also trying not to break the lcd underneath. Which I believe also has smudges on it. Oi.. I guess I'll have to get in there and clean it. Probably not tonight tho. I'm just glad the thing still works - I was scared I was going to bust something. There are a LOT of little things in there. For the record the CPU looks neat. Its smaller than a sim card, a little bigger than a micro sd. Pretty impressive.
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I've taken apart laptops (MacBooks at all) and successfully reassembled them so I think I'm up to the job. I'm reaaaally thankful that it says AT&T at the top and not HTC like the pic shows (since I'm on att).. Another question though, did you successfully get the "void" plastic piece back over the screw? Because, I want to keep this phone as "under warranty" as possible
Getting better at taking it apart..lol..
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I've taken apart laptops (MacBooks at all) and successfully reassembled them so I think I'm up to the job. I'm reaaaally thankful that it says AT&T at the top and not HTC like the pic shows (since I'm on att).. Another question though, did you successfully get the "void" plastic piece back over the screw? Because, I want to keep this phone as "under warranty" as possible
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No, the little void sticker on mine was less like a sticker and more like... glue, with paint on it.. lol.. it just flaked apart when I tried to lift it.. but I wasn't concerned with preserving it. Maybe if u use an x-acto or something like that you can lift it intact..? Let me know how you do.
I started getting some random touch input glitches yesterday, and today they got worse.. then my son spilled hot coffee on me and I dropped my phone on the carpet where it of course popped apart..lol..and then when I booted it back up I had some *major* touch glitches.. it was seeing input higher up than the actual contact point, and just acting real buggy..the phone was lagging.. so I took it apart again, completely.. took my sweet time reassembling it this time - I even got out the micro-fibre cloth and cleaned all the glass, and voila.. this time - its like new. I can already tell its put together right this time, which tells me something wasn't quite right before - I'm guessing I didn't get the ribbon cable seated properly before.. there are a lot of tiny, offset contacts on the end of that little cable. Anyway, I guess the moral of the story is screw warranties, and the more times you disassemble your phone the better you get at it.. lol.. it wasn't anywhere near as intimidating this time around. Felt kinda easy, actually. I think I just psyched myself into thinking it would be hard to do the first time around.
I do miss my original glass tho.. I'm thinking about contacting HTC and ordering an oem panel lol.. this one feels.. grippy. The HTC one felt smooth as silk.. I dunno this one kinda feels more like window glass. Meh.. better than a broken ghetto phone. At least now I can whip it out in public without hanging my head in shame and peeking around to see who's looking at my ugly screen. I never even tried HTC directly..I just googled the part and went with the one with good reviews..
OMFG...FML..
Sooo.. I got angry at my Raider today.. started doing the weird touch input glitches again after a battery pull, got frustrated and slammed my phone down on the table in anger...and.... smash. Brand new panel is now ten times as shattered as the old one was. AND...now the phone won't even light up. AND..it looks like I may have cracked the actual LCD this time.. just a small crack at the very bottom - wouldn't even be visible with the shell on the phone.. but.. I'm not very optimistic. I get absolutely nothing on my screen when I boot the phone, all I get is one haptic "bump" and thats it. Nada.
Sooo... looks like I need a new phone. Again.
Lame.
There goes $600.00
....sigh.
Anyone wanna donate an old android device to a guy who's now really really sad and has no phone? LOL.. why did I give away my legend????
Not giving up my phone!! LOL!
Ok so I decided to try my luck at replacing the LCD as well as the busted digitizer that I just re-broke..lol.. back to tmart, and ordered both. I really wish I could have found the whole assembly pre-built, but the only company I found selling both as a single unit had a minimum order of 5 pcs. Out of my price range for repairs, although with my track record maybe it wouldn't have been a bad idea? lol.. anyway, I just bought both parts from tmart and am still waiting for one of them to show up. The good news is I was able to replace the LCD already. It really is just held in there with tape. Like.. there's nothing really holding it all together..you'd think with all those screws and tabs they could have come up with a better way?? Ah well. I have a display again, but until I can get the digitizer and install it I'm without input.. so I can just watch the phone boot and then sit on my lock screen. Or boot into recovery mode and use the vol and power buttons to mess about.. But why..lol. I'll just wait.
I'm just happy that nothing else seems to be affected. I had my alarm going off still with no screen, so that tipped me off that everything else should still be ok. I won't know for 100% certain til I complete the repair, but it looks promising. I picked up a used HTC Magic (ugh) from kijiji for $80 and it came with 3 batteries, 3 chargers, 3 usb cables, 3 leather cases, and a bunch of other crap in threes. Just so I'm not completely without a phone in the meantime. Overall not bad for $80 but man is this phone slow. I installed a custom rom **THANKS XDA!!** on it and it improved the performance and look of the OS a little, but it lags a lot even overclocked when just typing a text.. I can't wait to get my phone back!!
Aside from the screens, this phone is pretty tough. I slammed that sucker down pretty hard that day.. Cmon HTC - why didn't you give us gorilla glass on a $600 LTE phone!?!?!?!? I wish I could find an aftermarket panel that was made from gorilla glass. That would totally rock!
Yeah, i really wish they would've put gorilla glass on it. I used to have the atrix and ive dropped it on tile floor at least 3 times... Nothing. Keys in the same pocket as phone.. No scratches at all.
I didn't want to try my luck, so I just got a replacement vivid
Hi everyone,
I have a relative with a TAB S2 9.7 that has a cracked screen. The user is quite disappointed with it since it wasn't dropped. She can't recall even hitting it against anything and wonders how it could have happened. The curious part is that she says the screen looked normal, but cracked when she put one of those pens with a soft rubber tip on it (she usually uses those to keep the screen free from smudges)
The screen has some spiderweb cracks centered in a point, so my theory is that perhaps she had it in a bag or something and pressure from a pointy item damaged it, slowly cracking util the light pressure from the pen made it obvious. It's always in a sleeve, but it's a fairly soft sleeve so maybe that was the case. The other possibility would me some sort of manufacturing defect making it crack, but I haven't heard of that before.
This is a person who doesn't have much money and tool really good care of the Tab, I've seen her handle the thing as if it was a precious item given the effort it took to buy it so I feel really bad about it. It's that look of disappointment of the kid who just dropped his icecream ball and cannot afford another.
The OLED panel seems to work perfectly, touch sensitivity is normal, etc. Seems to be just the thin top glass layer. I found the part for around 22 Eur, but installing seems complex. I'm sure I can't pull it off.
Anyone has any suggestions on how to have it fixed? Also, on how it could have happened without drops or obvious impacts? I was thinking about getting an S2 for myself now that prices are finally going down, but If I can't figure it out, perhaps I'll offer her a new one when I can... sigh...
Thanks
I'd just send it for repair especially if it still has warranty.
Even if it's not under warranty it may not be as expensive as you would think to repair.
Very little chance of repairing this successfully yourself unless you buy the whole lcd/touchscreen as a unit which would probably cost as much as getting it repaired.
ashyx said:
I'd just send it for repair especially if it still has warranty.
Even if it's not under warranty it may not be as expensive as you would think to repair.
Very little chance of repairing this successfully yourself unless you by the whole lcd/touchscreen as a unit which would probably cost as much as getting it repaired.
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In fact, you have to have a special "heat box" to soften the glue just to get the back off. That's why the first thing I did with mine was to get a GOOD screen protector. One costing over $20. NOT a cheap "film" protector. Depending upon how bad the glass is cracked, putting a good screen protector on even now, to keep the cracks from spreading, might make the tablet serviceable.
I've changed the glass digitizer on several tablet but wouldn't even attempt to on an S2.
lewmur said:
Depending upon how bad the glass is cracked, putting a good screen protector on even now, to keep the cracks from spreading, might make the tablet serviceable.
I've changed the glass digitizer on several tablet but wouldn't even attempt to on an S2.
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Agreed, if it's still usable put a screen protector on it.
It's what I did for my 3 year Olds tablet which he has a habit of testing newton's law of gravity with.
Definitely go for repair. My S2 screen cracked when it was propped up by its case and fell back onto the kitchen worktop, so not even dropped. I suspect it wasn't their fault at all and a screen protector would have done nothing whatsoever to prevent it.