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How to keep IM apps running

How can I keep applications like skype, IM+, ebuddy etc running for any length of time? Even with settings for always on and no power save, they seem to disconnect after a while, either just after a long time, or immediately after I start using the browser or other applications. And then some, like IM+, wont conenct anymore unless I force close and restart.

kkhalil76 said:
How can I keep applications like skype, IM+, ebuddy etc running for any length of time? Even with settings for always on and no power save, they seem to disconnect after a while, either just after a long time, or immediately after I start using the browser or other applications. And then some, like IM+, wont conenct anymore unless I force close and restart.
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Are you using Edge or 3G? As far as I know, without 3G or 3.5G, you can't talk on the phone and keep the internet connection live. YMMV.

Well I have 3G switched on, but the strange thing is that when no 3G signal is available, or it's weak and drops for a bit, then the phone switches to G (gprs) rather than E (edge), or does the phone just not display E?
Having said that, it disconnects the apps regardless of whether I'm using the phone or not

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Well I have 3G switched on, but the strange thing is that when no 3G signal is available, or it's weak and drops for a bit, then the phone switches to G (gprs) rather than E (edge), or does the phone just not display E?
Having said that, it disconnects the apps regardless of whether I'm using the phone or not
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hey there)
firstly about 3G <-> Edge/Gprs switching. literally speaking edge is a piece of hardware equipment embedded into the base station. afaik not every base station has it, so in case you see G that means that either you are served by above mentioned base station or all the channels are occupied by other subscribers which rarely happens nowadays, because carriers expand the capacity of the base stations in order to provide full range of services to their subs. in other words if 3G is not available you would see G or E, you can't manually force your handy to use Edge only, it's an improved version of GPRS so to say
as for the im apps disconnets. i personally use Meebo and it never signs me off. it doesn't matter if i use the phone or switch to other apps. it runs in the background as a service until i choose to sign off manually. give it a try. if it keeps running in the background then maybe Im+ have an option to keep connection alive in its configs. otherwise it can be a bug in the ROM you are using.
Hope it helps

Thanks, I'll give Meebo a try. I guess I found the 3G/G/E thing weird cause the last 2 phones I had did change from one to the other in sequence, so I assumed that this one was skipping a stage, especially as it is slower than my last phone when browsing.

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Are you using Edge or 3G? As far as I know, without 3G or 3.5G, you can't talk on the phone and keep the internet connection live. YMMV.
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edge/gprs (2G/2.5G) does not allow you to transfer data and to use voice service simultaneously. because it uses the same timeslots as voice does. but it won't disconnect you.

Thanks again for the recommendation, very stable and overall much better than previous apps I've tried for msn. The only few times I was signed off it signed me back in automatically.

[Q] How can I remove internet?

Hey guys the G1 data plan is getting too expensive for me and I'm planning to cancel soon. After I call in and cancel, how can I get my G1 to stop trying to access the internet unless its Wifi? Or once I cancel I won't have to worry about this?
I also heard a rumor about changing the APN settings so you can still have and use the internet? Is this true?

no real way to stop the phone from accessing the web since even in the background it sends packets of information. that's just how the phone works that's why you need the data plan for this phone.

i want to cancel the plan cause my sis is paying for mine and i dont want her paying 300$+ a year on me. but i dont want to be charged after i cancel the plan cause my g1 is still accessing the internet. Anyways to prevent it from accessing the internet?

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i want to cancel the plan cause my sis is paying for mine and i dont want her paying 300$+ a year on me. but i dont want to be charged after i cancel the plan cause my g1 is still accessing the internet. Anyways to prevent it from accessing the internet?
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i just said no there is no way to to shut off the internet due to the fact that the phone requires you to have a google account to run it even if you flash a adp build and skip the logon proceedure the phone still access the web in the background without you knowledge you will still get billed for data charges at t mobs data rate which i think is 25 to 50 cents per meg used.

disable auto sync
if you disable auto sync you wont be accessing the internet much (assuming you don't have a ton of news widgets or something) then sync when you're connected to wifi (toggle settings works well for this)

bittermormon said:
if you disable auto sync you wont be accessing the internet much (assuming you don't have a ton of news widgets or something) then sync when you're connected to wifi (toggle settings works well for this)
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the problem is even with auto sync off the phone still polls the internet in the background for updates and other things you could remove every internet reliant app off your phone and it still polls the internet it just the way android is designed he want to stop all internet traffic which is impossible without hacking the rom beyond what we do or pulling out the sim. even google maps requires to poll the internet in the background without him even turning it on. it's just impossible to stop it completely.

Install APNdroid.

Easiest, simplest, most reliable way: Go into settings>wireless controls>Mobile Networks>Access Point names, then click on each one and hit menu then delete. You will also need to finangle with tmobile through their customer service number in order to get them to cancel 3g for your G1 (they have some kind of a policy that's supposed to mean that you have to have an unlimited data plan with the G1, but if you're patient with them they'll let you cancel and just have voice.)

Even easier way. Download Toggle Data from market. That's what I've been using since I cancelled my plan. No more data in the background, so my battery life is longer. Sometimes my phone goes like 2-3 days without charge. (Of course without using wifi)

apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.

Before I bricked my G1, (I don't have a data plan) I just went to the T-Mobile store and told the guy what I could do to stop the internet. He just changed some kind of port number and stopped the internet so I don't get charged.

rigamrts said:
apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.
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I use apndroid all the time(to save battery) and I can still send/receive calls with it.

ultra spikey said:
I use apndroid all the time(to save battery) and I can still send/receive calls with it.
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i wasn't talking about apndroid
i was talking about the guy who told him to delete all his apns

if i use apndroid will i still be able to use wifi? also im using a JACHero's rom and i noticed this in the settings...
Data Sync > Google > Background Date Usage [X]

APN Droid only kills the data.

rigamrts said:
apns not only control how the phone connects to the internet it also handles how it connects to make calls which is also how it connect to edge/3g. so see the conundrum we have here removing all apns also kills making calls.
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No, the APN controls cellular data (internet and MMS) only. Voice and SMS are "built in" so to speak - as long as the SIM matches yoru carrier's records, they will work.
Deleting the APNs (or using APNdroid) will block cellular data, leaving voice, SMS and WiFi internet unaffected.

[Q] Faster tethering?

Newbie here with the Gear, sorry if this has been asked before but I googled for a while.
I have a rooted Gear with Null ROM and rooted phone. Bluetooth tethering is awfully slow though when I'm indoors since my phone gets crappy 3G/4G reception, but I have solid Wi-Fi -- the phone's apps all work great through Wi-Fi, but the bluetooth tether insists on trying to use cellular data even though Wi-Fi is there.
Is there any way to allow the bluetooth tethering to use both the 3G/4G as well as the Wi-Fi connection, whatever the phone has available?
Thanks!

It's limited to whatever your phone rom allows. E.g. international stock rom allows tethering via Wi-Fi where as most carrier rounds will only work with cellular data (if it is even an option)
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Brendo said:
It's limited to whatever your phone rom allows. E.g. international stock rom allows tethering via Wi-Fi where as most carrier rounds will only work with cellular data (if it is even an option)
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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that

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Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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maybe just a few words from my side - why do you need a faster internet connection?
i mostly use it just to sync new data like calendar, or to do list. even slow internet is enough to do that, as it's not a lot of information to be exchanged. if you are planning on streaming videos or so, prepare that your gear will die quickly..

hurdlejade said:
maybe just a few words from my side - why do you need a faster internet connection?
i mostly use it just to sync new data like calendar, or to do list. even slow internet is enough to do that, as it's not a lot of information to be exchanged. if you are planning on streaming videos or so, prepare that your gear will die quickly..
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For light use, faster internet means the device wastes less CPU cycles waiting for responses. It's going over bluetooth either way, so better the device get the data in a fraction of a second than say 20-30 seconds (literally; I get only GPRS and occasionally EDGE in my office, never 3G or 4G, but I have flawless Wi-Fi). In those 20-30 seconds I could have pulled the phone out of my pocket to check what came through.
Although in all honesty I bought the Gear to hack with, and there are lots of crazy ideas I want to do with it that want a fast internet connection. Yes, the battery will die quickly, but that's the price of early adoption; I just want to hack for now and hope that when battery technology becomes better I can continue to be living with my futuristic apps. For now I can live with a charging cable down my sleeve and an external battery in my pocket, but I don't want to use USB tethering since I want it to still be able to go while disconnected.

wuxiekeji said:
Thanks! But why should it be limited by the carrier? I want to tether the actual Wi-Fi connection over bluetooth, not the cellular connection (because the Gear doesn't have Wi-Fi, but my phone does, and 95% of the time I'm indoors where I have much better Wi-Fi than cellular reception).
If it makes a difference, I bought my Nexus 4 directly from Google so it's stock ROM and rooted. If I have to change to some other ROM (e.g. Cyanogenmod) I'm willing to do that
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I meant carrier branded rom. But in theory, stock international roms should use wifi if connected, otherwise use data. Some roms don't allow wifi to be used for tethering (cellular data only)

Brendo said:
I meant carrier branded rom. But in theory, stock international roms should use wifi if connected, otherwise use data. Some roms don't allow wifi to be used for tethering (cellular data only)
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Brendo is right. Stock roms often have wifi tethering via bluetooth enabled and can switch back and forth as need. I have not experienced laser fast result with either but as you states "for your needs", look for a phone with native bluetooth tethering. One that works well and is cheap is the Galaxy Grand II. I have one and it worked well. I use a Note 2 now with native bluetooth tethering via Verizon and it works with 4G but not wifi. Maybe someone will chime in with an international rom that has this capability.

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Brendo is right. Stock roms often have wifi tethering via bluetooth enabled and can switch back and forth as need. I have not experienced laser fast result with either but as you states "for your needs", look for a phone with native bluetooth tethering. One that works well and is cheap is the Galaxy Grand II. I have one and it worked well. I use a Note 2 now with native bluetooth tethering via Verizon and it works with 4G but not wifi. Maybe someone will chime in with an international rom that has this capability.
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Interesting. I have a Nexus 4 (directly from Google), and I'm surprised that if this feature exists that the Nexus 4 doesn't offer it. You'd think it'd be in Google's best interest given Glass and all.

wuxiekeji said:
Interesting. I have a Nexus 4 (directly from Google), and I'm surprised that if this feature exists that the Nexus 4 doesn't offer it. You'd think it'd be in Google's best interest given Glass and all.
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This is very true as unfortunatly in the US, native BT tethering is often blocked via Carriers who want to charge for it. In theory, this shouldnt be an issue with the Nexus line, curious if the Nexus 5 can... I can confirm, first hand that the technology does exist for wifi bluetooth tethering but it may be that no US phone has this feature enabled, to date. It should be noted that my Galaxy Grand was an international model, specifically the Latin model, not the India model. I could acutually use the phone without a sim card to serve up bluetooth PAN via home wifi to my old Motoactiv Smartwatch while I was screwing around in the house.

Faster Tethering?
wuxiekeji said:
Newbie here with the Gear, sorry if this has been asked before but I googled for a while.
I have a rooted Gear with Null ROM and rooted phone. Bluetooth tethering is awfully slow though when I'm indoors since my phone gets crappy 3G/4G reception, but I have solid Wi-Fi -- the phone's apps all work great through Wi-Fi, but the bluetooth tether insists on trying to use cellular data even though Wi-Fi is there.
Is there any way to allow the bluetooth tethering to use both the 3G/4G as well as the Wi-Fi connection, whatever the phone has available?
Thanks!
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You should include som info about the make and model of your phone if you wish people to help you....
Anyway, both my GalaxyS3 and my iPhone4S can easily be used to share WiFi with my Gear over Bluetooth. But it doesn't increase the speed much as this is limited by the BT bandwith between the phone and the Gear. Typically max 3Mb/s

I've got an N9005 rooted (X-Note 13) bluetooth tethering my null 23 gear, and on 4G I actually get speeds up to 5MB/sec, yet the gear rarely goes above 50kb/sec, which, for me, is too low even for a vague browsing . I highly doubt anything carrier specific, I just think bluetooth is slow...

Mobile Data connectivity Issues & Spen Button loose?

I know people have had Wi-Fi connectivity issues...but has anybody else had Mobile Data connectivity issues? It's a new phone and a new sim card but I'm still having issues? I had to reset my device in order for me to browse the internet or for me to send texts...TWICE within an hour. Any suggestions for this?
Also, is anybody's SPen button loose? I don't know how secure it's suppose to be, but if I run my finger back and forth as if I'm rubbing it, the button rocks back and forth as if it's loose. Not sure if it's supposed to be as secure as the home button on the phone or what

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I know people have had Wi-Fi connectivity issues...but has anybody else had Mobile Data connectivity issues? It's a new phone and a new sim card but I'm still having issues? I had to reset my device in order for me to browse the internet or for me to send texts...TWICE within an hour. Any suggestions for this?
Also, is anybody's SPen button loose? I don't know how secure it's suppose to be, but if I run my finger back and forth as if I'm rubbing it, the button rocks back and forth as if it's loose. Not sure if it's supposed to be as secure as the home button on the phone or what
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Wi-Fi and Network issues are being experienced by just about everyone. Because it's so widespread, this leads me to believe it is a software issue and we just need new radios.
Your SPen is like mine. Fairly certain it was made this way and is not supposed to be like the Home button.
Cheers

hum funny i havent had any wifi or 4g problems. I remember they said the s7 edge had wifi problems where it would randomly disconnect and not reconnect.
Which i didnt have that problem on the s7 edge either. (got the phone 2weeks after launch).
But with the note 7 no problems here. And my spend is pretty stiff no loose feeling on the button, feels almost like the home button

I've had really bad issues too. Like having to restart my phone to get data to work. receiving text messages late. Phone calls going straight to voicemail.

mysterysauce said:
I've had really bad issues too. Like having to restart my phone to get data to work. receiving text messages late. Phone calls going straight to voicemail.
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Same here. I simply notice that after an hour I dont seem to receive any kind of notification, suspicious. So I check my phone and keep getting pop up of "no connectivity please check your network". Both Data and Wifi will not connect. Even toggling airplane mode won't establish a connection. Only option is to reboot. This has been happening to me at least twice a day.

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I've had really bad issues too. Like having to restart my phone to get data to work. receiving text messages late. Phone calls going straight to voicemail.
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I have been having those problems too except it's with my data and regular service. If my phone loses service somewhere the only way to get it back is to restart the phone it's ridiculous and the signal is way worse then my wife's S7 Edge
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id say report it to samsung via online chat and they will make a case about it and hopefully they will make a patch.
but as said i dont get that problem. Background data and everything works. my package tracking, ebay, facebook and all that work. No miss called or messages.

Definitely have an issue when I roam on AT&T then come back to a T-Mobile area. Have to put it on airplane mode and then back for it to acquire the network again.

I haven't had any WiFi issues, but I rarely use WiFi. I have noticed that my Note 7 like to switch to AT&T Edge (which is basically unusable for data), even when there is T Mobile LTE available. I constantly have to manually search for a select T Mobile for it to switch back. I don't want to disable roaming, because it's necessary where I live, but I can't seem to keep the phone from switching over to AT&T or get it to switch back to T Mobile when service is available. I just switched from a Nexus 6P which very rarely had this problem in the same area.

I too have experience Data loss where I have to toggle airplane mode or reboot. But this only happens at my residence which has a poor to fair T-Mobile signal.

bamfsig45 said:
I too have experience Data loss where I have to toggle airplane mode or reboot. But this only happens at my residence which has a poor to fair T-Mobile signal.
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Same here, only once, but I noticed the one time it happened I had been using Bluetooth, more specifically Samsung Gear connected to my Gear S.
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I had disconnected my watch and mobile data just.. quit
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This is exactly what I've been experiencing
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Well this is my first cycle but no issues yet. Spen button does the same thing. I think thats normal.
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I had no issues, maybe don't use phone often enough to notice, but I have been in and out of network and it works fine without any reset. but here is the funny part: when i went to activate my N7 (from home computer), I had to call rep, of course from my old phone. So while he is trying to switch me, he sms me some code to input (still on old phone), didn't get it, sends again, nothing still, then my old phone connection goes dead. So i grab my new phone, sure enough, I'm switched, new phone now works. That was around 9pm. 3AM my phone beeps, I got 2 SMS messages with codes from 6 hrs ago. Since they were originally send to my old phone, which worked fine like forever, I would speculate the issue was on TMO side, not my phone. So I wonder if some of the issues some of you experienced are coming from T-mo? I don't know, like somebody forgot to program new phone into system and things hang up,

I switched the mobile network selection to manual instead of automatic and turned off data roaming and haven't had this problem since.

I have had no issues like this? Why are some many users having issues with this phone. The Note 7 is built pretty dam well. All my friends i know have this phone and no issues with them as well. Before jumping the gun on issues please do research.

Heinous said:
I switched the mobile network selection to manual instead of automatic and turned off data roaming and haven't had this problem since.
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I'll try this and keep an eye out. Next step for troubleshooting will be to get the SIM activated that came with the N7 instead of using the one from the S7. I've read that using a SIM from a previous phone has information stored on it and could be the cause for some problems. That just doesn't make much sense to me since they both have the exact same T-Mobile bands but I guess you never know. Thanks for the tip!

I have noticed on my N7 if I lose service (building elevator, etc) and then come out into open air, one out of 5 times it never reconnects. I try to cycle through Airplane Mode and out, but that does nothing. The only way to get data back is by restarting the phone. Super annoying, especially when I have a password on the phone and a sim lock so by the time phone is back up and running to use, it takes some time. Very frustrated with this!

bamfsig45 said:
I too have experience Data loss where I have to toggle airplane mode or reboot. But this only happens at my residence which has a poor to fair T-Mobile signal.
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I just experienced this. Ironically I had full LTE Data bars but 0 connectivity running T-Mobile stock Firmware and NOT rooted.

At least 3 times in the morning my data has been off, showing full bars but no LTE, a reboot was the only thing that got it up and running again.
As for the S-pen I'd say it's semi loose when fondled..

Constant notifications "Wi-Fi Calling preferences updated to optimize network exp."

Constant notifications "Wi-Fi Calling preferences updated to optimize network exp."
So, aside from the common touchscreen and proximity sensor issues, I'm getting this notification constantly that is driving me crazy. If I swipe it away it comes back many times per day. It can't be disabled. I've seen reports of it, but it's not widespread. I've not had this issue on any of my other phones, Samsung or otherwise. The only way to get rid of it is to turn off Wi-Fi Calling. I suppose it could possibly be an issue with the wireless in my home. I use an eero router system. But like I said, it works with all my other devices no problem. Anyone else get this?

what carrier?
so notification pops up only when the wifi-calling is on?
try this:
download samsung members app from galaxy store, click get help (bottom), send report. once you submit a ticket, samsung will be able to tell you what is causing the issue.

Yeah I hate that it does this

anaconda_bamn said:
what carrier?
so notification pops up only when the wifi-calling is on?
try this:
download samsung members app from galaxy store, click get help (bottom), send report. once you submit a ticket, samsung will be able to tell you what is causing the issue.
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I'm on T-Mobile. And almost every instance I could find of this issue on a Samsung device (via google search), the user was also using T-Mobile. And yes, it only happens when WIFI calling is enabled.

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Yeah I hate that it does this
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Are you also on T-Mobile?

T-Mobile here, and also having the same issue. I just muted/Silenced all the notifications, but they still pop up in the bar.

I have seen it a couple of times at home (also on T-Mobile), but this past weekend, when using a car hotspot (AT&T), it kept showing up over and over again.

S20 FE Unlocked purchased from Samsung directly. Just transferred from Verizon to T-Mobile. At my home, cellular signal is so weak that the phone is basically unusable for calls. Wi-Fi calling is a necessity so I set the Wi-Fi Calling network preference to "Wi-Fi preferred". It doesn't take long for these notifications to show up when the phone changes back to "Cellular preferred" mode on its own. My work around is to turn on Airplane Mode, wait for it to engage, then re-enable Wi-Fi. This works to keep Wi-Fi calling active and stops the constant notifications. I just have to remember to de-select Airplane Mode when I leave the house. A big PITA.
When I was on Verizon the phone would remain in whatever network preference I selected without issue.

i have a workaround for this using tasker, the catch being that you need to have the android 11 (one ui 3.0) update. if you're still on android 10, the custom setting this watches for doesn't exist yet...it was only introduced in the android 11 update.
Unlocked Galaxy S20 WiFi Calling Issues
Use tasker (or another automation app) to stop your phone from randomly changing the Unlocked Galaxy S20 WiFi Calling preferences!
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