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[Q] ROMs and KERNELs

I have a question about kernels and roms regarding the competability. I believed I'm still considered new in the android sector though I have used 2.1, 2.2 and now 2.3.
Over the years, I have been using stock ROMs because and putting in my own kernel to get a good balance of performance and battery life. Recently I've have tried getting into custom ROMs as I felt that some stability issues I have read might be some user experience instead of a real stability issue. So I decided to give a go. I looked at certain ROMs but decided to go with more popular ROMs like DarkyRom, they until then I somehow bricked my phone (not ROM issue) and manage to save it back, I decided to go for a newer ROM, which might be as popular as my previous ROM. I decided to go for Doctorz Rom, since all these custom ROMs usually come with another kernel already, is it perfectly Okay to flash any other kernel (Kernel are competitable with the version of the firmware, of course) on the ROM, irregardless of whether the ROM is customized by a developer or not. Example, DarkyRom comes with darkcore kernel (I flashed it to speedmod because I saw that you can do it), Doctorz Rom come with semaphore kernel.
My question in simpler terms, is whether can I flash Doctorz Rom with say, darkcore or speedmod kernel?

simple question for which I am afraid there is no one, simple answer. Some roms play nice with most, if not all kernels, some don't. Similarly, some kernels seem to work with just about every rom, many do not. Hardcore's kernel is one of the more robust ones and usually works with most roms.
Part of the issue is the scripts used in many roms and kernels and what is left behind when you copy a new program to conflict with the new stuff.
(1) Always read the directions on any new kernel or rom.
(2) A clean phone will decrease the chances of having issues with any newly flashed kernel or rom. If your phone is cleansed correctly, any issues are solely a problem of the newly flashed firmware. Bits of legacy program can and do cause issues, which is why a system clean is important.

Thank you, that was the answer I needed

If you were happy with stock ROMs, you should be looking at slightly tweaked stock ROM. I was using Darky with all its bells and whistles for quite a long time. But recently I started to look for something more closer to stock versions and found Simplicity which does pretty good job for me so far.
The choice of ROMs and kernels is so wide that it's hard to decide and it depends if we want to achieve speed or stability. But you can mix ROMs and kernels definitely. I was using Darky ROM JVR with Semaphore kernel completely fine.

stiwipl said:
If you were happy with stock ROMs, you should be looking at slightly tweaked stock ROM. I was using Darky with all its bells and whistles for quite a long time. But recently I started to look for something more closer to stock versions and found Simplicity which does pretty good job for me so far.
The choice of ROMs and kernels is so wide that it's hard to decide and it depends if we want to achieve speed or stability. But you can mix ROMs and kernels definitely. I was using Darky ROM JVR with Semaphore kernel completely fine.
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I decided to use custom rom because of the features, since i had nv used one before. I cant deny that stock ROM gives a very neat and clean rom which sometimes leads to more speed/battery life, but lets give these developers some.chance as well
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[Q] Got a few questions about this phone

i can get this phone around $110 under contract, so i got a few questions about it
1. how the AOSP rom with this phone, is it ok for daily use
if not
2. can viperfx and titanium backup be used in stock rom (rooted of course)
and lastly
3. how was the performance with stock rom vs aosp

hi ! the aosp by Ivan is good, fast and stable.
you can customize the MiUi as u wish, no worries
on aosp the benchmark score lower than the stock rom. both are good , fast, battery lasts for me for 5 hours Screen On-TIme . thats freaking incredible .
My advice, if u want u can buy it, its a beast for this price, but the drawback is the kernel remember : no kernel -> no custom roms !

I didn't try the aosp rom, but i can tell you for sure that that titanium backup is perfectly working with the stock rom, i didn't try viperfx but if it is the type of app that is very complex and it modify many android files, it may not work.
And if you want to try some xposed modules, the normal "xposed installer" itsn't compatible with the miui. You have to download another app call "wsm tool".

I am using viper with MIUI v32 stable since its release. No problem.
The good thing is Viper + Dirac is awesome.

B14CKB1RD vs ElementalX?

I am currently running PN 7.1.1, with ElementalX. I've been reading the B14CKB1RD kernel thread, and people seem extremely satisfied with it. Has anyone went from ElementalX to B14CKB1RD? Any noticable differences?

I can say from experience his kernel is the only n6 kernel I will use now, I've used most of them before I went to blackbird.

both are very good better than fracos kernel ,
Elementalx : stable, battery friendly and fast updates & regularly
B14CKB1RD : battery friendly but not stable and the update is slow

B14CKB1RD kernel better than ElementalX, because have more features and better customisation.
ElementalX like stock, more simple and easy.
i tries many kernels and using ElementalX for few mounts, but better kernel for me it's- FLASH and B14CKB1RD

Don't post threads like this. In my opinion it's rude to ask X kernel vs Y kernel or X rom vs Y rom.
Make a backup of your "boot" partition in TWRP. This contains your kernel and ramdisk. Flash any kernel you want, and there are plenty more than just the two you mentioned. Use kernel adiutor-mod to look at the settings you can change and tweak them to your liking. If you don't like the kernel or find it's missing options, restore your boot partition in TWRP then flash another kernel.
EVERY user is different. Therre is no "best" kernel. Depending on your usage habits you might even tweak stuff like governor, hotplugs, and voltages. So in conclusion, try it and find out on your own!!!!

As stated before, dont post threads like this. As it doesnt matter what anyone else uses or how it works for them as each device is different and you may get different outcomes from using a kernel.
In the end, they them out and make up your own mind instead of allowing yourself to be told.

So OnePlus 3T community has got a chance to breathe for 2 months, whats the best rom?

So I been biding my time waiting on the people to tinker and try everything. So I gotta ask, what do you thin is hands down the best ROM for Oneplus 3T, doesn't have to be custom, can be stock, just want to know what people think.
Personally Ive been using stock the most.

Ivalicenyan said:
So I been biding my time waiting on the people to tinker and try everything. So I gotta ask, what do you thin is hands down the best ROM for Oneplus 3T, doesn't have to be custom, can be stock, just want to know what people think.
Personally Ive been using stock the most.
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For me it's FreedomOS .
You can make it as stock as you want....well almost stock. And it also supports Substratum legacy support.

Still using stock. it's relatively clean so no issue there. Also, official LineageOS (post-CM) already have OP3 rom posted, I just wonder would that be universal build that support 3T also. Either way, not gonna try as I have no need for custom ROM at the moment.

Favourites are Tesla and stock 4.0.2
Currently using Tesla 21/01 build, its almost perfect - OMS support, great battery and relatively stable. There are some features of stock OOS that I really like (besides the stability and smoothness) such as the Shelf, and OOS camera. If only stock didn't have forced encryption, I would have stayed on it.

Tried almost all ROMs...and have to say Freedom is the smoothest of all..

Stock and Freedom OS.. All rest of the ROMs are still buggy and unstable for me so far..
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Tried a few.. now I've gone back to stock.. seems the most reliable so far...

This is the first phone where I'm living stock. And still doesn't feel any need to go for custom roms or kernels.

Still on stock rom. The first time that I have no need for custom rom. Even I have stock recovery, just root.

For me the best at the moment is AICP, pretty stable, LOT of customization, really fast.. Cons are camera and maybe battery, which is pretty average.. but in general is the rom i like most.

Stock.
Custom roms give more harm than goods!

I would like to know a Oneplus 3T custom room that fully supports Substratum
It would have been good if the stock OOS 4.0.3 would have supported but that does not seem to be the case and I would like to know if there is anything better than that.

Stock w/ Franco kernel ftw!

I always use stock OOS since the beginning, combined with custom kernels such as blu_spark or franco. It already has everything that I need, so I don't have any desire to try any custom ROM, at least for now.

still on stock cause I need VoLTE and VoWiFi, all the custom ROMs and unlocked boot loader seem to break that settings for US T-mobile network

Latest RC build of Dirty Unicorn is the best for me. Best battery life for me.
OOS 4.0.3 with fk kernel gave me really good battery but Dirty Unicorn gave me even better. And trust me, Those guys (DU team) knows how to build a rom.

Stock with franco kernel

Stock as I want Android Pay without faffing about. It's pretty good in terms of customization anyway and I've always run Nova Launcher Prime so whichever ROM I run they always look and function the same primarily.

I'm on FreedomOS as the video camera quality on non-stock based ROMs is pretty crummy. I hoped OP would had put whatever sources or binaries out by now like they said they would, but oh well. Still very happy with the phone.

infamousvincci said:
Latest RC build of Dirty Unicorn is the best for me. Best battery life for me.
OOS 4.0.3 with fk kernel gave me really good battery but Dirty Unicorn gave me even better. And trust me, Those guys (DU team) knows how to build a rom.
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Mind showing me way to the du builds?

Help getting started.

Hello. I just bought my brand new Oneplus 3T. I came from the LG G4. I always used custom roms on my android phones. Unfortunately I have a job now and I don't have much time to play/test all these roms around here.
I'm not asking "the best rom" or "which is better" sort of things.
I just need an opinion for what should I begin with?
I would prefer some stock based rom.
As about the kernel I heard a lot about Franco's kernel but I saw that there is Boeffla kernel too.
Don't get me wrong, I just need something to start from because as I mentioned above I don't have much time to test and choose which is best for me.
Thank you!

I have tested many ROM's and I always come to the same conclusion. Stock is better. I recommend you to use stock OOS, root it and mod it as you wish. It's a powerful OS, without much bloatware (which can anyways be easily removed) and it offers a decent amount of customization. Of course, it's not as customizable as RR, but RR is also unstable and doesn't offer the same camera quality. In fact, most ROMs have a crappy camera. Except PA, apparently, which, of course, has other problems, like idle battery drain. You'll find something that won't make you happy in every rom you try. That was, at least, my experience. I have come to the conclusion that OOS does its job well.

luptatorul said:
I have tested many ROM's and I always come to the same conclusion. Stock is better. I recommend you to use stock OOS, root it and mod it as you wish. It's a powerful OS, without much bloatware (which can anyways be easily removed) and it offers a decent amount of customization. Of course, it's not as customizable as RR, but RR is also unstable and doesn't offer the same camera quality. In fact, most ROMs have a crappy camera. Except PA, apparently, which, of course, has other problems, like idle battery drain. You'll find something that won't make you happy in every rom you try. That was, at least, my experience. I have come to the conclusion that OOS does its job well.
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This is exactly what I want. I don't want a LineageOS based rom or something like this.
I want a STOCK based rom.
But I don't know with which rom should I start because I saw that there are a few.

Hmm, I'd say freedomOS. It's a very stable ROM, "daily driver" material. It gives you the option to kinda debloat it when you flash the ROM

If you are looking for maximum battery with average use then go for RR with EX Kernel.

Yeah Freedom OS is kind to install because you don't have to do the usual stuff manually, but I've personnaly not noticed anything you can't get on stock OOS.
I'd advice to stay stock, and if later you still want to try some new things there will be plenty of mod material here

If you want something else...try Phoenix AEX ROM..
Really different experience...( EAS based )

Hi, when you are new with this phone I personally would recommend OxygenOpen Beta.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/coming-update-oos-based-7-1-t3564240
This Rom has everything you want, for me absolut stable and has all features you need for normal use. Worth to have a look.
I always had custom Roms on my earlier phones, but this stock Rom is the best I have ever seen. I have unlocked bootloader and rootet phone but since I have my phone (since May) I flashed this Rom and there is no reason for me to change it:angel:
Greets, reinipic

ilooze said:
I always used custom roms on my android phones.
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Don't feel like you need to flash a custom ROM, just because you "always have". Try the stock OOS for a bit, you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Stock OOS is very impressive. Very little bloat, really close to stock Android, nice customization options, and it just works. It's a big departure from the manufacturer "skins" applied by LG, Samsung, etc. which often (in my opinion) make too many changes, with little added value.
Although, I would suggest unlocking the bootloader now (instead of waiting) even if you do intend to try out the stock ROM for a while. Sinceit is a bit annoying having your data wiped (by unlocking the bootloader - it can't be avoided) and having to setup everything again, if you do decide to install a custom ROM, kernels, etc.

Stick to OOS. It's the best, really. Sultanxda's lineage is amazing for starters.
And Franco kernel on OOS is also "legendary"
Nevertheless, it's upto you to try and tell yourself what rom/kernel suits your needs.
Cheers!

That's the mistake you use custom roms. I always have stock rom on my every device

Stock open beta 10 with custom kernel(optional to remove dm verity flag) + magisk + safety net pass + adway + google assistant + dark mode.... thats it !