Amazon Fire 5.4.0.0 rollback to 5.3.2.1 - Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My tablet just jumped from 5.3.2.1 to 5.3.3.0 in one day. I tried kingroot several times hoping it would work. It did not. I performed factory reset on it and signed into amazon. When i woke up it was at 5.4.0.0. My question is if a root exploit is found for 5.3.2.1 or 5.3.3.0 can it be rolled back? This all started from a bad SD card that kept resetting my old fire. I thought there was something wrong with the tablet and bought a used one off eBay hoping it would come with 5.1.2. I love AOSP on these machines.

daniel3016 said:
My tablet just jumped from 5.3.2.1 to 5.3.3.0 in one day. I tried kingroot several times hoping it would work. It did not. I performed factory reset on it and signed into amazon. When i woke up it was at 5.4.0.0. My question is if a root exploit is found for 5.3.2.1 or 5.3.3.0 can it be rolled back? This all started from a bad SD card that kept resetting my old fire. I thought there was something wrong with the tablet and bought a used one off eBay hoping it would come with 5.1.2. I love AOSP on these machines.
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If I recall correctly, 5.3.3.0 COULD be rolled back to 5.3.2.1. And 5.4 supposedly, or theoretically can be rolled back to 5.3.3. So theoretically, yes it could be rolled back to 5.3.2.1 from 5.4.

Hello guys. I really appreciate what is done on this forum. Keep on doing it, it really helps a lot of people out there. I would like an explanation on how to roll back from OS 5.3.3.0 to OS 5.3.2.1 on Amazon fire 7" 5th gen. Thanks

ulrngui said:
Hello guys. I really appreciate what is done on this forum. Keep on doing it, it really helps a lot of people out there. I would like an explanation on how to roll back from OS 5.3.3.0 to OS 5.3.2.1 on Amazon fire 7" 5th gen. Thanks
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There is no benefit to be gained with that action. However, if you insist: https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/unbrick-amazon-fire-7in-2015-5th-gen-t3285294

Just for heck it i adb sideloaded 5.3.2.1 while on 5.4.0.0 just to see what happened and it appears to have downgraded just fine. I know there was nothing to be gained from this but I needed to know. This tablet is to be kept off of wifi

daniel3016 - how did you sideload to downgrade 5.4 to 5.3.2.1? Thanks

smolie701 said:
daniel3016 - how did you sideload to downgrade 5.4 to 5.3.2.1? Thanks
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/unbrick-amazon-fire-7in-2015-5th-gen-t3285294

daniel3016 said:
Just for heck it i adb sideloaded 5.3.2.1 while on 5.4.0.0 just to see what happened and it appears to have downgraded just fine. I know there was nothing to be gained from this but I needed to know. This tablet is to be kept off of wifi
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Hey, do you have a link (or tips) to how you did this? I have 5.4.0.0 and the advice I'm getting is that this system version cannot be rooted or downgraded, that trying will brick it. You're the only one who seems to have had success. The follow-up link given by someone else (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ama...h-gen-t3285294) doesn't have a shred of info on 5.4.x.x.

I just downgraded to 5.3.2.1 from 5.4.0.0 i have never acheived root. You gain nothing by doing it. I did it just to see if i could. Hope that helps.

Mr2nSmith said:
Hey, do you have a link (or tips) to how you did this? I have 5.4.0.0 and the advice I'm getting is that this system version cannot be rooted or downgraded, that trying will brick it. You're the only one who seems to have had success. The follow-up link given by someone else (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ama...h-gen-t3285294) doesn't have a shred of info on 5.4.x.x.
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Clarification: you can not downgrade from 5.4.x.x+ to a rootable version of FireOS as of the date of this post (5.3.1.0/5.3.2.0 are the highest rootable builds). Amazon updated the bootloader concurrent with delivery of FireOS 5.3.2.1; manually rolling back to a lower version will brick the device. At present there is not a method for downgrading FireOS independent of the bootloader on an unrooted device.

Davey126 said:
Clarification: you can not downgrade from 5.4.x.x+ to a rootable version of FireOS as of the date of this post (5.3.1.0/5.3.2.0 are the highest rootable builds). Amazon updated the bootloader concurrent with delivery of FireOS 5.3.2.1; manually rolling back to a lower version will brick the device. At present there is not a method for downgrading FireOS independent of the bootloader on an unrooted device.
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To Clarify - Can I downgrade 5.4.4 to 5.3.2.1 Safely?

savvytechwinner said:
To Clarify - Can I downgrade 5.4.4 to 5.3.2.1 Safely?
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Probably 'yes' based on a couple user reports. However, there is no benefit to offset the potential brick risk if the version of FireOS currently on your device has an incompatible bootloader. 5.3.2.1 can not be rooted so what's the point?

Davey126 said:
Probably 'yes' based on a couple user reports. However, there is no benefit to offset the potential brick risk if the version of FireOS currently on your device has an incompatible bootloader. 5.3.2.1 can not be rooted so what's the point?
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I downgraded. I had the system updates uninstalled so have no clue if it worked but I downgraded anyways because root might be found in a different method and got patched? have no clue and no suspecting it. Just proving that dowgrading is safe from 5.4 to 5.3.2.1

savvytechwinner said:
I downgraded. I had the system updates uninstalled so have no clue if it worked but I downgraded anyways because root might be found in a different method and got patched? have no clue and no suspecting it. Just proving that dowgrading is safe from 5.4 to 5.3.2.1
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savvytechwinner, Can you please link to the tutorial you followed in order to downgrade?

ormaoz said:
savvytechwinner, Can you please link to the tutorial you followed in order to downgrade?
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I believe you can find the 5.3.2.1 software here. I believe all you have to do is place the .bin into the internal storage (SDcard) and boot into recovery to flash it. I'm not 100% certain though.

DragonFire1024 said:
I believe you can find the 5.3.2.1 software here. I believe all you have to do is place the .bin into the internal storage (SDcard) and boot into recovery to flash it. I'm not 100% certain though.
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You download the 5.3.2.1.bin file from rootjunkysdl.com and adb sideload it

ormaoz said:
savvytechwinner, Can you please link to the tutorial you followed in order to downgrade?
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DragonFire1024 said:
I believe you can find the 5.3.2.1 software here. I believe all you have to do is place the .bin into the internal storage (SDcard) and boot into recovery to flash it. I'm not 100% certain though.
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savvytechwinner said:
You download the 5.3.2.1.bin file from rootjunkysdl.com and adb sideload it
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...or from the forum index which contains a ton of information and resources that most choose to ignore.

Davey126 said:
...or from the forum index which contains a ton of information and resources that most choose to ignore.
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Or just forget. Not used to the index material.

Hi can i rollback from 5.4.0.1 to 5.3.2.1 ? or to 5.4.0.0 !?
Edit. The the rollback from 5.4.0.1 to 5.3.2.1 has worked well .

Any news in the community about a 5.6.0.0 rollback?

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Accidentaly updated to 5.1.2.1

I accidentaly upgraded my fire from 5.1.1 to 5.1.2.1
The device was previously rooted.
Is there any way that I can downgrade?
Google services still works fine.
Kingroot is broken.
The_Rusty_Geek said:
I accidentaly upgraded my fire from 5.1.1 to 5.1.2.1
The device was previously rooted.
Is there any way that I can downgrade?
Google services still works fine.
Kingroot is broken.
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You need to reload 5.1.2 (can not go back to 5.1.1). See third post in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/index-amazon-fire-2015-t3210485/page11
I had the same thing happen to me recently. You will just need to do a restore firmware using 5.1.2. You can find the firmware here: http://rootjunkysdl.com/files/?dir=Amazon Fire 5th gen/Firmware Use the file dated 3/17/16. This video is helpful (although my drivers did not install automatically for me, I installed them manually though the supertool makes it easier) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQLoH-ahjy4
Sorry to thread jack but my kindle replacement just came in. It self updated during its stupid backup process. Can I go back to 5.1.1? I am going to guess that it came with that OS.
Herox said:
Sorry to thread jack but my kindle replacement just came in. It self updated during its stupid backup process. Can I go back to 5.1.1? I am going to guess that it came with that OS.
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No, 5.1.1 = Brick.
Sideload 5.1.2 from the replies in this thread.
riverstyxxx said:
No, 5.1.1 = Brick.
Sideload 5.1.2 from the replies in this thread.
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Yea I wound up just doing a 5.1.2 sideload and it fixed kingroot and all for me. Is there anything wrong with 5.1.2? Seems like 5.1.1 and up lose access to twrp so I guess thats the only difference.
Hi, I need help. Recently bought my Amazon Fire 5 gen. I'm trying to remove the Fire OS and install the CM 11. However, by inattention, I downgrade from version 5.1.2.1 to version 5.1.1. Now my Fire is no longer booting. Is there a solution?
Thanks.
berganardo said:
Hi, I need help. Recently bought my Amazon Fire 5 gen. I'm trying to remove the Fire OS and install the CM 11. However, by inattention, I downgrade from version 5.1.2.1 to version 5.1.1. Now my Fire is no longer booting. Is there a solution?
Thanks.
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Nope. Contact Amazon (or the place you bought it) for a courtesy exchange.

Installing custom rom with FireOS 5.3.1.0

I have FireOS 5.3.1.0 on my 5th gen Amazon tablet and I want to put Cyanogenmod on it. I understand that I need to first go back to 5.1.2 in order for TWRP to work but I'm also seeing reports that going back to an older version bricks the device. Is it possible to put a new rom on this device? If so, does anyone know where I can find a how-to?
TragicWarrior said:
I have FireOS 5.3.1.0 on my 5th gen Amazon tablet and I want to put Cyanogenmod on it. I understand that I need to first go back to 5.1.2 in order for TWRP to work but I'm also seeing reports that going back to an older version bricks the device. Is it possible to put a new rom on this device? If so, does anyone know where I can find a how-to?
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- 5.1.3 can be successfully rolled back to 5.1.2
- 5.3.1 is new; consequences of a rollback attempt are unknown
- twrp is not an option (period); you'll need to use FlashFire for managing custom roms
I tried, despite the warnings, and with knowledge that it could be "fatal", to put 5.1.2 on a 5th gen Fire that had 5.3.1.0 on it. It's now bricked. Only comes up to the MediaTek MT65XX PreLoader, loops on that, never shows anything on the screen. Don't do what I did.
Keith Lollis said:
I tried, despite the warnings, and with knowledge that it could be "fatal", to put 5.1.2 on a 5th gen Fire that had 5.3.1.0 on it. It's now bricked. Only comes up to the MediaTek MT65XX PreLoader, loops on that, never shows anything on the screen. Don't do what I did.
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Thank you for sharing your findings. This small, selfless act will help others avoid a similar outcome. A respectful head nod to your device for paying the ultimate price.
@sd_shadow, @ggow - FYI.
Keith Lollis said:
I tried, despite the warnings, and with knowledge that it could be "fatal", to put 5.1.2 on a 5th gen Fire that had 5.3.1.0 on it. It's now bricked. Only comes up to the MediaTek MT65XX PreLoader, loops on that, never shows anything on the screen. Don't do what I did.
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Was about to share the same experience... !
Keith Lollis said:
I tried, despite the warnings, and with knowledge that it could be "fatal", to put 5.1.2 on a 5th gen Fire that had 5.3.1.0 on it. It's now bricked. Only comes up to the MediaTek MT65XX PreLoader, loops on that, never shows anything on the screen. Don't do what I did.
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Cbtg2005 said:
Was about to share the same experience... !
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It may still be possible to re-flash 5.3.1 bootloaders via AFTV2 tools ... But right now the best route is to talk to Amazon
Crap
Keith Lollis said:
I tried, despite the warnings, and with knowledge that it could be "fatal", to put 5.1.2 on a 5th gen Fire that had 5.3.1.0 on it. It's now bricked. Only comes up to the MediaTek MT65XX PreLoader, loops on that, never shows anything on the screen. Don't do what I did.
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F&$! Sorry about that Keith. I also have a Fire 2015 with 5.3.1.0 on it and Android 5.1.1 and I've only been able to put google apps on it and not been able to root it at all. I think you may be able to save it. Let me know.
Michael
What about going from 5.1.4? Will that brick my device? I wanna downgrade and root it.
stvy_g said:
What about going from 5.1.4? Will that brick my device? I wanna downgrade and root it.
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I bought two tablets during Prime Day, both came with 5.1.4. I mistakenly accepted the OTA system update for 5.31. on one of the tablets, and couldn't find a way to root or downgrade (I was only able to install google play/apps). After doing a factory reset, I exchanged it at Best Buy (no restock fee!) for a tablet with 5.1.4.
I have since successfully downgraded both tablets to 5.1.2 using RootJunky's tools (Search YouTube for a video by RootJunky titled "How to Firmware Restore or Unbrick your Amazon Fire 5th gen Tablet "), and then I followed the steps from talesofatech.com from the articles list below, to root and flash to an AOSP rom.
"Kindle Fire 7″ 5th Gen: Root, Custom Home Screen, Etc"
"Kindle Fire 7″ 5th Gen: AOSP ROM"
**I have a new account, but have been lurking around here for a while. Unfortunately cannot post links yet due to forum rules.
darby123 said:
I bought two tablets during Prime Day, both came with 5.1.4. I mistakenly accepted the OTA system update for 5.31. on one of the tablets, and couldn't find a way to root or downgrade (I was only able to install google play/apps). After doing a factory reset, I exchanged it at Best Buy (no restock fee!) for a tablet with 5.1.4.
I have since successfully downgraded both tablets to 5.1.2 using RootJunky's tools (Search YouTube for a video by RootJunky titled "How to Firmware Restore or Unbrick your Amazon Fire 5th gen Tablet "), and then I followed the steps from talesofatech.com from the articles list below, to root and flash to an AOSP rom.
"Kindle Fire 7″ 5th Gen: Root, Custom Home Screen, Etc"
"Kindle Fire 7″ 5th Gen: AOSP ROM"
**I have a new account, but have been lurking around here for a while. Unfortunately cannot post links yet due to forum rules.
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I will downgrade and post an update on the outcome.
darby123 said:
I bought two tablets during Prime Day, both came with 5.1.4. I mistakenly accepted the OTA system update for 5.31. on one of the tablets, and couldn't find a way to root or downgrade (I was only able to install google play/apps). After doing a factory reset, I exchanged it at Best Buy (no restock fee!) for a tablet with 5.1.4.
I have since successfully downgraded both tablets to 5.1.2 using RootJunky's tools (Search YouTube for a video by RootJunky titled "How to Firmware Restore or Unbrick your Amazon Fire 5th gen Tablet "), and then I followed the steps from talesofatech.com from the articles list below, to root and flash to an AOSP rom.
"Kindle Fire 7″ 5th Gen: Root, Custom Home Screen, Etc"
"Kindle Fire 7″ 5th Gen: AOSP ROM"
**I have a new account, but have been lurking around here for a while. Unfortunately cannot post links yet due to forum rules.
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I used rootjunkys downgrade tool he posted a couple of days ago and i successfully downgraded my kindle fire and now i will try and root it
stvy_g said:
I used rootjunkys downgrade tool he posted a couple of days ago and i successfully downgraded my kindle fire and now i will try and root it
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NOTE: the above statement refers to downgrading 5.1.3/5.1.4 -> 5.1.2. It does NOT apply to higher versions of FireOS. At this time there is no option to downgrade 5.3.1.x to a lower (rootable) version. Any attempt to do so will likely yield a brick.
stvy_g said:
I used rootjunkys downgrade tool he posted a couple of days ago and i successfully downgraded my kindle fire and now i will try and root it
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Many people have done that (I am one). I think it's misleading to have 5.1.3/5.1.4 posts in the 5.3.1.x thread.
Read the warning too late about the 5.3.1.0 OS and now my Fire HD 8 tablet is bricked. Any one know how to get it back working again? It was 5.1.4 just the other day and I decided to downgrade today, but did not think of checking the OS version and end it up bricking it.
5.12
:good::good:
stvy_g said:
I will downgrade and post an update on the outcome.
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Hey that's awesome. Mine came with 5.3.1 also. Can't root yet but I have google play store etc... I have a rooted Kindle HD I bought in 2012 I actually like a little better than this new one that's rooted. Hopefully there will be an update for the 5.3.1 someday. I'm glad you were able to get those down graded, it sure feels good when stuff just works right !!
Michael
Danny1976 said:
Read the warning too late about the 5.3.1.0 OS and now my Fire HD 8 tablet is bricked. Any one know how to get it back working again? It was 5.1.4 just the other day and I decided to downgrade today, but did not think of checking the OS version and end it up bricking it.
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Wrong forum; not for HD devices. Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10
Anyone tried rooting 5.3.1.0 without downgrading?
sys32down said:
Anyone tried rooting 5.3.1.0 without downgrading?
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Suspect that was one if the first things tried as there is typically no risk associated with root attempts (the payload included with some rooting apps is another story). Beyond that several have analyzed the security 'fixes' incorporated into 5.3.1 and concluded previously leveraged exposures have been closed while others have yet to be exploited. You can bet Amazon will be working to close those too.
argh... received a 5.1.4, and red to late the downgrade option to root. Tried King root, it said a root option would be possible. So I upgraded the fire tablet to 5.3.1.0 in two steps und tried in both king root... nothing worked. So I also have to wait for a new freaky instruction to root a fire 5.3.1.0
mulle1978 said:
argh... received a 5.1.4, and red to late the downgrade option to root. Tried King root, it said a root option would be possible. So I upgraded the fire tablet to 5.3.1.0 in two steps und tried in both king root... nothing worked. So I also have to wait for a new freaky instruction to root a fire 5.3.1.0
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Welcome to Amazon's world. First rule: never update FireOS if you care about root (there are exceptions; too many caveats to detail). Second rule: ask before acting as likely someone before you has fallen into the firery pit and has a helpful tale to share.
In your case FireOS 5.1.4 was just fine - could be rolled back and rooted. 5.3.x not so much. Live and learn.

Running rooted 5.1.1, how to upgrade to 5.3.2 for Alexa (5th gen Fire tablet)

Hi! I have a 5th gen Fire tablet running 5.1.1, rooted with the Supertool, lock screen ads turned off.
I'd like to get Alexa. I understand that Alexa is available in firmware 5.3.2.
I see here that 5.3.2 can't be rooted but can be downgraded to 5.3.1, which can be rooted. So I think 5.3.2 is the version that I want, rather than 5.3.2.1, to preserve the option to root in the future.
What is the process to upgrade my tablet to 5.3.2? Based on experience with other devices, I would expect that I'd need to do some combination of unrooting, factory reset, clear data and cache, etc.
But I'm reading the instructions for restoring stock firmware here, it looks like all I need to do is an adb sideload in stock recovery. Is it really that simple? No need to do anything else?
I'm assuming the result of that will be a fresh install of 5.3.2 with Alexa, and then I'll want to use the Supertool to install the Play Store.
Can anyone just provide a quick confirmation that I have this right? Thanks for any help!
5.3.2 isnt rootable, OTA updates will probably be an issue unless you can block auto updates.
discman017 said:
Hi! I have a 5th gen Fire tablet running 5.1.1, rooted with the Supertool, lock screen ads turned off.
I'd like to get Alexa. I understand that Alexa is available in firmware 5.3.2.
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I'm assuming the result of that will be a fresh install of 5.3.2 with Alexa, and then I'll want to use the Supertool to install the Play Store.
Can anyone just provide a quick confirmation that I have this right? Thanks for any help!
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5.3.2 isnt rootable, OTA updates will probably be an issue unless you can block auto updates.
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Yep. You'll probably want to hold off if retaining root option (and ability to flash a custom ROM) is more important than Alexia. Might also consider grabbing a refurb Fire 7 from Amazon (<$30 USD) and running Alexia on that pup. Best of both worlds...albeit with additional cost and hassle of dealing with 2 devices.
Thanks for the heads up about OTA updates. I figured I could just ignore OTA updates and stay on 5.3.2. But is that not the case? Will Amazon automatically update 5.3.2 to 5.3.2.1 without my approval?
Sorry for the very basic questions. I've been happily running 5.1.1 (rooted, OTA updates disabled by Supertool), so I hadn't considered the problem of a forced update.
Or is there another way to get Alexa (custom ROM, for instance)?
Thanks again!
discman017 said:
Will Amazon automatically update 5.3.2 to 5.3.2.1 without my approval?
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Yes, it will automatically update as soon as it can. And unfortunately, updates can't be disabled without root, so 5.3.1 is the newest you can safely obtain without locking into the terrible 5.3.2.1 situation we're in now.

FireOS Downgrade

Hi, is it possible to downgrade FireOS 5.4.0.1 to 5.4.0.0 on a Kindle Fire 5th Gen? If I downgrade, will it brick the device?
I'm not looking for a rootable version, I just want to downgrade it.
Thanks!
philip_io said:
Hi, is it possible to downgrade FireOS 5.4.0.1 to 5.4.0.0 on a Kindle Fire 5th Gen? If I downgrade, will it brick the device?
I'm not looking for a rootable version, I just want to downgrade it.
Thanks!
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We don't know, nobody has tried yet. If they did, they didn't post about it. You could try at YOUR OWN RISK. I'd say it's not a good idea, but if you do try please post back with whether it worked or not. Good luck.
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Downgrade from 5.4.0.1 to 5.4.0.0 works fine
Today, I used the adb sideloader to downgrade my 5th gen 7" Fire from 5.4.0.1 to the less restrictive 5.4.0.0. No problems, not bricked. Will post back if I find anything wrong with it. 5.4.0.0 allows you to use shell commands to delete unwanted system apps, for those of you who don't know.
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Today, I used the adb sideloader to downgrade my 5th gen 7" Fire from 5.4.0.1 to the less restrictive 5.4.0.0. No problems, not bricked. Will post back if I find anything wrong with it. 5.4.0.0 allows you to use shell commands to delete unwanted system apps, for those of you who don't know.
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Thanks for the information!
Coneyfox said:
Today, I used the adb sideloader to downgrade my 5th gen 7" Fire from 5.4.0.1 to the less restrictive 5.4.0.0. No problems, not bricked. Will post back if I find anything wrong with it. 5.4.0.0 allows you to use shell commands to delete unwanted system apps, for those of you who don't know.
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This is great news! Can you give the details on how you did it? I'm not familiar with sideloading firmware; I've only ever sideloaded .apk's. Thanks!
Coneyfox said:
Today, I used the adb sideloader to downgrade my 5th gen 7" Fire from 5.4.0.1 to the less restrictive 5.4.0.0. No problems, not bricked. Will post back if I find anything wrong with it. 5.4.0.0 allows you to use shell commands to delete unwanted system apps, for those of you who don't know.
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Please can you link to the file you used to sideload.
edit NVM, i found it. Right where it belongs. lol..on amazon.
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This is great news! Can you give the details on how you did it? I'm not familiar with sideloading firmware; I've only ever sideloaded .apk's. Thanks!
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See video in OP of this thread. Be sure to use the file (.bin) for FireOS 5.4.0.0 vs whatever build is mentioned in the video.
Coneyfox said:
Today, I used the adb sideloader to downgrade my 5th gen 7" Fire from 5.4.0.1 to the less restrictive 5.4.0.0. No problems, not bricked. Will post back if I find anything wrong with it. 5.4.0.0 allows you to use shell commands to delete unwanted system apps, for those of you who don't know.
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I am skeptcal of this users report of being able to downgrade.
*no details
* no response to requests for details
* poster is new xda poster with only 3 posts, all of which are claiming successfull downgrade.
maybe just me , but I would not want to be first to follow his footsteps.
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I am skeptcal of this users report of being able to downgrade.
*no details
* no response to requests for details
* poster is new xda poster with only 3 posts, all of which are claiming successfull downgrade.
maybe just me , but I would not want to be first to follow his footsteps.
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It's the same guy who made the post about 5.3.3 root by flashing SuperSu. Seriously though guys, if you plan on actually using your tablet and not just experimenting with it for fun, don't do this. Especially if you aren't in the 30 day exchange period anymore.
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It's the same guy who made the post about 5.3.3 root by flashing SuperSu. Seriously though guys, if you plan on actually using your tablet and not just experimenting with it for fun, don't do this. Especially if you aren't in the 30 day exchange period anymore.
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Don't have time to look now; if this guy has a history of intentionally misleading members (potentially leading to bricked devices) will report and let the mods deal with him.
The same went for those reporting it CAN'T be done...new users, a few posts. I try to have an open mind, but unless they're regular users, I take some new user posts with a grain of salt. Always be careful.
EDIT: I did walk one user through trying to downgrade an HD 8 FROM 5.4.0.1, which was unsuccessful and resulted in an unrecoverable brick. It's likely the same thing for the Fire 7.
Hi, new to XDA forums - about 2 weeks ago I came here looking for a way to re-google my fire 7 (which I'd just bought) but mine was already upgraded to 5.4.0.1
I tried to downgrade using a .bin from amazon but it failed during verification so I gave up. Because of this thread I re-downloaded the .bin (which seems to have changed? I'm unexperienced but the update number is different) and tried again.
It downgraded fine and I'm running 5.4.0.0 - I'm honestly not sure what changed but thought I'd put this out there.
shw2921 said:
Hi, new to XDA forums - about 2 weeks ago I came here looking for a way to re-google my fire 7 (which I'd just bought) but mine was already upgraded to 5.4.0.1
I tried to downgrade using a .bin from amazon but it failed during verification so I gave up. Because of this thread I re-downloaded the .bin (which seems to have changed? I'm unexperienced but the update number is different) and tried again.
It downgraded fine and I'm running 5.4.0.0 - I'm honestly not sure what changed but thought I'd put this out there.
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Do you know if your fire is 5th or 7th gen?
mrmazak said:
Do you know if your fire is 5th or 7th gen?
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It's a 7th gen
mrmazak said:
Do you know if your fire is 5th or 7th gen?
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It appears the Fire 7 CAN be downgraded, but likely the HD 8 CANNOT be. I don't know how this is possible though. Maybe someone else can chime in about the specifics.
If you are on 5.4.0.0, you can uninstall/disable system apps. So if that's what you're looking to do, congrats...You can still do it
shw2921 said:
I tried to downgrade using a .bin from amazon but it failed during verification so I gave up. Because of this thread I re-downloaded the .bin (which seems to have changed? I'm unexperienced but the update number is different) and tried again.
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Hi,
this sounds like during the first attempt you used (tried to use) a firmware that was created for the 5th gen fire 7 (codenamed "ford"), not the 7th gen ("austin") that you have. Their names differ in only one place AFAICT: it's a 37 (5th) or a 55 (7th).
While for both device generations there's no 5.4.0.1 for download, someone might have a closer look at the .bins to learn about the hardware differences between 5th and 7th - beyond what we already know.
steve8x8 said:
Hi,
this sounds like during the first attempt you used (tried to use) a firmware that was created for the 5th gen fire 7 (codenamed "ford"), not the 7th gen ("austin") that you have. Their names differ in only one place AFAICT: it's a 37 (5th) or a 55 (7th).
While for both device generations there's no 5.4.0.1 for download, someone might have a closer look at the .bins to learn about the hardware differences between 5th and 7th - beyond what we already know.
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Awesome! That explains it. The more I learn the better. Also to DragonFire - yes I wanted 5.4.0.0 for system app removal, so it turned out good in the end.
shw2921 said:
Awesome! That explains it. The more I learn the better. Also to DragonFire - yes I wanted 5.4.0.0 for system app removal, so it turned out good in the end.
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Sorry to repeat this again. But there were some conflicting reports about whether it is possible to go from Fire OS 5.4.0.1 to Fire OS 5.4.0.0. (One report of failure for Fire HD8 (7th Generation)).
Would you please confirm the following steps:
(1). You have Fire 7 (7th Generation, 2017 model) with Fire OS 5.4.0.1
(2). You go to this Amazon site to download Fire 7th Generation OS 5.4.0.0 :
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_left_v4_sib?ie=UTF8&nodeId=202144590
(3). You sideload the file from Step (2) above by typing ,from a PC window, "adb sideload update-kindle-55.5.7.9_user_579225620.bin"
Thank you so much.
I am waiting for more reports of success before I attempt to "roll-back" my Fire 7 (7th Generation) from OS 5.4.0.1 to OS 5.4.0.0, so that I can "pm uninstall" most of the Amazon Apps.
My Amazon Fire 2015 downgraded to 5.4.0.0 just fine. Removed OTA updates, Lockscreen Offers, and Amazon Apps.
Nice to know that if in the event a Fire does update to 5.4.0.1, it can be rolled back.
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5.6.0.0 root?

I have had my Amazon fire 5th gen for a couple months now and I want to know if there is a way to root my tablet without a computer, anybody know?
ChompDroid126 said:
I have had my Amazon fire 5th gen for a couple months now and I want to know if there is a way to root my tablet without a computer, anybody know?
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Neither without, nor with a computer. The last rootable firmware was 5.3.1, long ago.
Using Tapatalk on a Ford
I am in the same boat as the OP what can be done to downgrade the version and get this device rooted?
Nrocket3 said:
I am in the same boat as the OP what can be done to downgrade the version and get this device rooted?
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You can't as a quick of the dozen+ threads on the same topic would reveal:
- no root on any build of FireOS above 5.3.1
- 5.6 can not be rolled back to a rootable build
Nrocket3 said:
I am in the same boat as the OP what can be done to downgrade the version and get this device rooted?
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@Nrocket3 Downgrading will brick your device unfortunately
Still no fix?
my son reset the kindle fire i had already had it rooted and factory reset was done...... i forgot how to root it and so i went back online looking to day how to do it again and now it states that u cannot root 5.6.+ and i checked the kindle i have and its running 5.6+ now :0( just wanna know if there is any update to this yet or a way to root
FatGuy870 said:
my son reset the kindle fire i had already had it rooted and factory reset was done...... i forgot how to root it and so i went back online looking to day how to do it again and now it states that u cannot root 5.6.+ and i checked the kindle i have and its running 5.6+ now :0( just wanna know if there is any update to this yet or a way to root
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Unfortunately, no root once FireOS has progressed beyond 5.3.2.0. Status quo for many months and is unlikely to change going forward. You can still install the Play Store and ask Amazon to remove lock screen ads. That's about it.
Davey126 said:
Unfortunately, no root once FireOS has progressed beyond 5.3.2.0. Status quo for many months and is unlikely to change going forward. You can still install the Play Store and ask Amazon to remove lock screen ads. That's about it.
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You can root from FireOS 5.4.1.0 all the way to the current 5.6.0.1, on the Fire HD 10 only. At the moment no other current (2017) tablets can be rooted. I plan to reload FireOS on my HD 10 sometime soon to re-root and see if I can't get some logs of it and see what's going on. The closest to root any other Amazon tablet has, beyond 5.3.1.0, is disabling system apps on 5.4.0.0 and earlier versions.
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You can root from FireOS 5.4.1.0 all the way to the current 5.6.0.1, on the Fire HD 10 only. At the moment no other current (2017) tablets can be rooted. I plan to reload FireOS on my HD 10 sometime soon to re-root and see if I can't get some logs of it and see what's going on. The closest to root any other Amazon tablet has, beyond 5.3.1.0, is disabling system apps on 5.4.0.0 and earlier versions.
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Seen this movie before. HD 10 uses a different architecture (64-bit) utilizing different binaries with different vulnerabilities. It is unlikely that any exploits from the HD 10 can be leveraged to FireOS builds for the Fire 7 and HD 8.
Davey126 said:
Seen this movie before. HD 10 uses a different architecture (64-bit) utilizing different binaries with different vulnerabilities. It is unlikely that any exploits from the HD 10 can be leveraged to FireOS builds for the Fire 7 and HD 8.
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Agreed. Though to see what's going on, could be beneficial. Though I do giggle a little at the thought of Amazon "patching" the disabling of system apps, only to have their most expensive tablet rooted. I have been wondering if whatever they patched caused this.
I don't really know how kernels are patched. Example: when a kernel is patched to stop potential exploits, how is the data written? Like is it in rotation? As new patches are uploaded, does it push off the older data?

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