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miracast and xbmc

was thinking about this possibly being a sweet setup hopefully miracast will be implemented into the device or possible being implemented into xbmc having that along the airplay option on xbmc enabled would make this a pretty sweet device
i purchased(preordered one) but I was hoping it would be more so like a media center device kinda like google tv but no hdmi out so no google tv overlay. But if I could use this to do miracast with my 4.2 sgs3 and whenever friends come over can use xbmc to allow them to do airplay that would be really cool
reason i bring up miracast support is because supposedly is supported in tegra 3
i've been trying to figure/find out how you go about setting up a miracast server but the documentation doesn't seem to exist not saying that i have the ability to implement but i wouldn't mind taking a look into it
thoughts?

This is more of a question for xbmc team. I suggest you provide that feedback on their forum. There was a talk of xbmc supporting miracast but no eta.
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As long as it supports PLEX, I am sold!

Keland44 said:
was thinking about this possibly being a sweet setup hopefully miracast will be implemented into the device or possible being implemented into xbmc having that along the airplay option on xbmc enabled would make this a pretty sweet device
i purchased(preordered one) but I was hoping it would be more so like a media center device kinda like google tv but no hdmi out so no google tv overlay. But if I could use this to do miracast with my 4.2 sgs3 and whenever friends come over can use xbmc to allow them to do airplay that would be really cool
reason i bring up miracast support is because supposedly is supported in tegra 3
i've been trying to figure/find out how you go about setting up a miracast server but the documentation doesn't seem to exist not saying that i have the ability to implement but i wouldn't mind taking a look into it
thoughts?
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I've heard the documentation costs around $200 and that might not even be all of it. Or I might be pulling that number out of air, don't remember where I saw that, but did find this:
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=147320
I am more interested in seeing the Android Transporter Player ported to Ouya, except that they haven't released their source code on the sending side yet...
https://github.com/esrlabs/AndroidTransporterPlayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyoZoNA8U24
~Troop

I'm not from familiar with Miracast. All I know is what the Wiki page said. It really reads like DNLA. And from my experience, this has been something that can be app dependent. Since I have no experience with Miracast, I don't know if it's full mirroring or just certain apps.
That said, Miracast may just be work versus just installing individual apps. Unless there is something in the application code for specific devices, if you side load an APK, it should run on the Ouya. Doesn't mean it will run well or look correct. Thus, you may be able to just side load XBMC. I know I'll try it with Plex, Netflix, Hulu, various sports--MLB, NHL, NBA, etc--and so on.
I couldn't figure out what the end result you were suggesting about friends coming over and their mobile devices.

lovekeiiy said:
I'm not from familiar with Miracast. All I know is what the Wiki page said. It really reads like DNLA. And from my experience, this has been something that can be app dependent. Since I have no experience with Miracast, I don't know if it's full mirroring or just certain apps.
That said, Miracast may just be work versus just installing individual apps. Unless there is something in the application code for specific devices, if you side load an APK, it should run on the Ouya. Doesn't mean it will run well or look correct. Thus, you may be able to just side load XBMC. I know I'll try it with Plex, Netflix, Hulu, various sports--MLB, NHL, NBA, etc--and so on.
I couldn't figure out what the end result you were suggesting about friends coming over and their mobile devices.
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I believe Miracast is primarily for screencasting - ie it just mirrors what is on the device's screen onto the TV or whatever is receiving. And I believe the previous poster was saying that it would be nice if it is easy to screencast from your phone to the TV and allow visiting friends to be able to easily screencast their content as well - so if one person has a video they want to show everyone, it's not a hassle to pull it up on the big screen. I think this is what a lot of us want.
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I believe Miracast is primarily for screencasting - ie it just mirrors what is on the device's screen onto the TV or whatever is receiving. And I believe the previous poster was saying that it would be nice if it is easy to screencast from your phone to the TV and allow visiting friends to be able to easily screencast their content as well - so if one person has a video they want to show everyone, it's not a hassle to pull it up on the big screen. I think this is what a lot of us want.
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yea this is exactly what i'm lookin for been keeping an eye on it have google alerts set up for pretty much anytime miracast is being searched on the net to possibly find any tidbit of info that might be helpful with this. thanks Troop

video streaming
Hi all. Bit late to the party but my ouya comes tomorrow
Assuming no problems on sideloading why not just use
twonky. Been using for ages bouncing files between my
nas drive, xperia s, xoom2 and Xbox. Even adhoc with
android.......jus puttin it out there..... It's spot on even with
playlists and web streams.

Do you think Chromecast will eventually be able to...

This might sound crazy but what if we can eventually hack the Chromecast to cast the actual phone/tablet screen (such as you can currently with the desktop of a computer) and play Android games on an HDTV. Yes, we can just get the Ouya but this would be awesome. Now I have no idea if hacking something like this will make it possible, but this would be pretty cool down the road.
Edit: Something like this actually would be perfect. Had no idea this existed:
Miracast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYx9YNoD014

tanw42 said:
This might sound crazy but what if we can eventually hack the Chromecast to cast the actual phone/tablet screen (such as you can currently with the desktop of a computer) and play Android games on an HDTV. Yes, we can just get the Ouya but this would be awesome. Now I have no idea if hacking something like this will make it possible, but this would be pretty cool down the road.
Edit: Something like this actually would be perfect. Had no idea this existed:
Miracast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYx9YNoD014
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I think that the accessibility of this device and it's price are 2 things what will greatly help the community develop on this. Just like Samsung's All-Share Dongle, i do think it's only a matter of time before we can mirror our screen

I don't think you will be able to play local games from your table or phone in the near future for the simple reason that everything is being streamed from the cloud. Even Chromecasting the current tab or the full desktop, what happens is google sends your full desktop or tab to their cloud and then streams it back up. That adds the 1 second delay between what you see on your screen and what appears on your TV. Trying to play a real time game with a 1 sec delay will be nearly impossible. Maybe in the future when everyone will have a fiberoptic connections, if they can cut that delay down to 10ms, then I would say yes/maybe. But that much fast bandwidth is still out in the future.
The thing though about Chromecast is that Google has the right idea on where things are headed. This is by far the best innovation out there for your TV.

larryvand said:
I don't think you will be able to play local games from your table or phone in the near future for the simple reason that everything is being streamed from the cloud. Even Chromecasting the current tab or the full desktop, what happens is google sends your full desktop or tab to their cloud and then streams it back up. That adds the 1 second delay between what you see on your screen and what appears on your TV. Trying to play a real time game with a 1 sec delay will be nearly impossible. Maybe in the future when everyone will have a fiberoptic connections, if they can cut that delay down to 10ms, then I would say yes/maybe. But that much fast bandwidth is still out in the future.
The thing though about Chromecast is that Google has the right idea on where things are headed. This is by far the best innovation out there for your TV.
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I think the most likely avenue for this would be to write an app that turns the phone (or laptop) into a "local cloud" that is streaming just like Netflix or Play Music. It would obviously take some development but I don't think it's too outlandish.

The problem with screen mirroring is lag. From what I have seen 250ms lag is the norm with Miracast. There is just no way around it with current tech. I think that is part of the reason for chromecast. It partially eliminates the need for screen mirroring. Chromecast gives the same ability of using your phone/tablet to browse and select content as does Miracast, but you get a full-screen experience with the best possible resolution depending on internet bandwidth. It is also not depending on your device to be the streamer as is the case with Miracast.
I expect to see another Google TV type device with the new Jellybean update and Chromecast that will be more geared towards gaming on the big screen. I predict we will see it in Q4 or Q1 of next year.

Lag might be there on some level, but it definitely doesnt have any impact the probability of chromecast and screen mirroring. Its not about how well it does it, it's about if i can. Its a 35$ gadget, lets not overthink this. If it's at all possible, 250ms lag would still be more than acceptable. Of course, thins would never be a gaming device where real time information in crucial

larryvand said:
I don't think you will be able to play local games from your table or phone in the near future for the simple reason that everything is being streamed from the cloud. Even Chromecasting the current tab or the full desktop, what happens is google sends your full desktop or tab to their cloud and then streams it back up. That adds the 1 second delay between what you see on your screen and what appears on your TV. Trying to play a real time game with a 1 sec delay will be nearly impossible. Maybe in the future when everyone will have a fiberoptic connections, if they can cut that delay down to 10ms, then I would say yes/maybe. But that much fast bandwidth is still out in the future.
The thing though about Chromecast is that Google has the right idea on where things are headed. This is by far the best innovation out there for your TV.
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While I'm unsure of how it exactly works, I don't think everything is necessarily streamed through the cloud. Using your phone or tablet to play netflix or youtube videos from the cloud - yes...
...but I was able to stream a local mkv video in a chrome tab on my desktop to the chromecast. I doubt it makes the round trip through google since I know my upload speeds are pretty bad. My guess is that google just executes the handshake and the video streams through your intranet directly.

pjsnyc said:
While I'm unsure of how it exactly works, I don't think everything is necessarily streamed through the cloud. Using your phone or tablet to play netflix or youtube videos from the cloud - yes...
...but I was able to stream a local mkv video in a chrome tab on my desktop to the chromecast. I doubt it makes the round trip through google since I know my upload speeds are pretty bad. My guess is that google just executes the handshake and the video streams through your intranet directly.
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You are correct about chrome tab mirroring. It goes straight over your local network, but the native codec support of the current Chromecast device is lacking which may be improved by savvy developers found right here. However, since tab mirroring only works from PCs, I think it is a step backwards.

007shark said:
You are correct about chrome tab mirroring. It goes straight over your local network, but the native codec support of the current Chromecast device is lacking which may be improved by savvy developers found right here. However, since tab mirroring only works from PCs, I think it is a step backwards.
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My understanding is that if you have the correct codecs installed on your desktop/laptop with chrome, you should theoretically be able to play any file type. I saw a video of it working with plex or simply navigating your local drives with chrome. Whether or not native codec support is lacking on the chromecast is moot imho. Tab mirroring on a phone or tablet should eventually come, I just think the devices need more horsepower so to speak.

polish_pat said:
Lag might be there on some level, but it definitely doesnt have any impact the probability of chromecast and screen mirroring. Its not about how well it does it, it's about if i can. Its a 35$ gadget, lets not overthink this. If it's at all possible, 250ms lag would still be more than acceptable. Of course, thins would never be a gaming device where real time information in crucial
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I am with you. I think this little device will be one of the more popular developer projects on xda.
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My understanding is that if you have the correct codecs installed on your desktop/laptop with chrome, you should theoretically be able to play any file type. I saw a video of it working with plex or simply navigating your local drives with chrome. Whether or not native codec support is lacking on the chromecast is moot imho. Tab mirroring on a phone or tablet should eventually come, I just think the devices need more horsepower so to speak.
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Okay, so it is transcoding on the fly. I agree with you on not yet on the phones because of lack of processing power. Miracast is still the better option with portable devices even with the minor lag.
I guess I am dreaming for, because Google surprised me with this gadget and I was unable to get one before they were all sold out, an all encompassing gadget that has DLNA, Miracast, and Chromecast in the same form factor. I think the DLNA might be able to be added to this. I doubt Miracast would be able to, though.

007shark said:
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I guess I am dreaming for, because Google surprised me with this gadget and I was unable to get one before they were all sold out, an all encompassing gadget that has DLNA, Miracast, and Chromecast in the same form factor. I think the DLNA might be able to be added to this. I doubt Miracast would be able to, though.
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I kinda like it the way it is. While DLNA has been around for a while, I honestly havent seen a simple implementation of it yet (unless you lock yourself into one brand/ecosystem). I am excited that the hacking community is already tearing this thing apart, but the simplicity of setting it up and just getting it to work for the masses is ridiculous at this price.
I lucked out in getting mine - my coworker was able to arrange a pickup at bestbuy and sold it to me at price when he realized he couldn't mirror a mobile chrome tab.

pjsnyc said:
I kinda like it the way it is. While DLNA has been around for a while, I honestly havent seen a simple implementation of it yet (unless you lock yourself into one brand/ecosystem). I am excited that the hacking community is already tearing this thing apart, but the simplicity of setting it up and just getting it to work for the masses is ridiculous at this price.
I lucked out in getting mine - my coworker was able to arrange a pickup at bestbuy and sold it to me at price when he realized he couldn't mirror a mobile chrome tab.
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I like the DLNA for getting photos, videos, and music from my device to the TV. Samsung's AllCast from their phones/tablets work great this way even with non-Samsung DLNA devices. If Google implemented DLNA with Chromecast then a phone/tablet's native gallery and video apps could seamlessly work as the Netflix and YouTube apps do without a normal consumer understanding how it works. And also without having to sync everything to the cloud.

007shark said:
I like the DLNA for getting photos, videos, and music from my device to the TV. Samsung's AllCast from their phones/tablets work great this way even with non-Samsung DLNA devices. If Google implemented DLNA with Chromecast then a phone/tablet's native gallery and video apps could seamlessly work as the Netflix and YouTube apps do without a normal consumer understanding how it works.
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I guess this is where you and I disagree. The 'understanding how it works' part. For example - once you get chromecast set up with your laptop on your couch, sharing photos and videos with other people in your livingroom from facebook is easy to understand for anyone. 'Native' for the masses is what is currently showing in the browser tab.

pjsnyc said:
I guess this is where you and I disagree. The 'understanding how it works' part. For example - once you get chromecast set up with your laptop on your couch, sharing photos and videos with other people in your livingroom from facebook is easy to understand for anyone. 'Native' for the masses is what is currently showing in the browser tab.
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That is exactly the difference. I don't use a laptop in my living room. I use my tablet and/or phone. I think that is also the growing trend at least from my circle of friends and family.
EDIT: I use to watch TV with a laptop in my lap, but haven't done that in a couple years since I got a tablet.

For games we could see some games go to cloud based solution. This could work by your phone/controller sending information to the server that in turn sends back appropriate results to the Chromecast. So games aren't played on the phone but on the server the phone just sends commands.

Yeah miracast is sick
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pjsnyc said:
I kinda like it the way it is. While DLNA has been around for a while, I honestly havent seen a simple implementation of it yet (unless you lock yourself into one brand/ecosystem). I am excited that the hacking community is already tearing this thing apart, but the simplicity of setting it up and just getting it to work for the masses is ridiculous at this price.
I lucked out in getting mine - my coworker was able to arrange a pickup at bestbuy and sold it to me at price when he realized he couldn't mirror a mobile chrome tab.
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http://elinux.org/DLNA_Open_Source_Projects ?
007shark said:
I am with you. I think this little device will be one of the more popular developer projects on xda.
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Okay, so it is transcoding on the fly. I agree with you on not yet on the phones because of lack of processing power. Miracast is still the better option with portable devices even with the minor lag.
I guess I am dreaming for, because Google surprised me with this gadget and I was unable to get one before they were all sold out, an all encompassing gadget that has DLNA, Miracast, and Chromecast in the same form factor. I think the DLNA might be able to be added to this. I doubt Miracast would be able to, though.
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I don't see any hardware limitations for Mircacast at this moment, still digging through the tech specs and kernel though

Tab casting to multiple chomecasts?

well, i guess my plan has failed unless someone has a different idea. so i was planning on casting to
multiple chromecasts from the same pc. i can't get this to work unfortunately. i was hoping to do this only for football so i could have different games on each tv and with a powerhouse pc i think it could handle it, but i don't get the option in tab casting. once you start casting you don't have the option to continue casting and start up on the other chromecast.
maybe i'm doing something wrong? anyone else have a solution?
i know that i could use another pc, tablet, etc but nothing is powerful enough aside from my pc to cast in 720p without stuttering.

knives of ice said:
well, i guess my plan has failed unless someone has a different idea. so i was planning on casting to
multiple chromecasts from the same pc. i can't get this to work unfortunately. i was hoping to do this only for football so i could have different games on each tv and with a powerhouse pc i think it could handle it, but i don't get the option in tab casting. once you start casting you don't have the option to continue casting and start up on the other chromecast.
maybe i'm doing something wrong? anyone else have a solution?
i know that i could use another pc, tablet, etc but nothing is powerful enough aside from my pc to cast in 720p without stuttering.
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Not really a solution, but an "HDMI Splitter" can help in your scenario. So, instead of buying multiple chromecasts, you could cast to single chromecast and then mirror the display on all TVs.
http://www.amazon.com/HD-104-Powere...qid=1378630390&sr=1-11&keywords=hdmi+splitter
Edit: Seems like you want to watch different games. Above is not going to help you.

admin856 said:
Not really a solution, but an "HDMI Splitter" can help in your scenario. So, instead of buying multiple chromecasts, you could cast to single chromecast and then mirror the display on all TVs.
http://www.amazon.com/HD-104-Powere...qid=1378630390&sr=1-11&keywords=hdmi+splitter
Edit: Seems like you want to watch different games. Above is not going to help you.
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Yeah....I'm looking for different content on each tv

Ok. You basically need a work around so you can run multiple instances of chrome.
Try searching for virtual desktop software for your operating system.
http://www.lockergnome.com/windows/...tiple-virtual-desktops-in-windows-7-for-free/
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admin856 said:
Ok. You basically need a work around so you can run multiple instances of chrome.
Try searching for virtual desktop software for your operating system.
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Here is a workaround to stream from 2 or more browsers.
1) Create a chrome shortcut (other then your current).
2) Right click the shortcut and select Properties.
3) On the Shortcut tab, edit the target to look as follows:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe" --user-data-dir=D:\Chrome\ProfileName
The bold is what you will need to add, this will have this chrome shortcut use a new profile, so it will allow you to stream to a different chromecast.
My goal was to do this with NFL Sunday Ticket HOWEVER, you cannot log into the NFL Sunday Ticket from a different browser (it limits you to one login at a time...) so if you happen to be trying the same thing and find a workaround for that, I'd love to know.

BYUTV.org to Chromecast...possible?

The thread title is exactly what I want to know...is there some way to get byutv.org content streamed to my chromecast without having to do tab casting?
Whether I figure out a way to cast from my computer with a chrome add-on, or from the android app, I'd love to know how. Thanks!

Look of couple of threads down the forum to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672797 (WebCast extension for Chrome). It works with BYUTV.org.

DJames1 said:
Look of couple of threads down the forum to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672797 (WebCast extension for Chrome). It works with BYUTV.org.
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I tried that extension but the icon never appears for me to be able to use it. It works on other sites, but I can't get it to work on BYUTV.org. Any specific video you used it on that actually worked for you?

Writing to you on a tablet, I mention this as I tried last night but I guess it timed out and it never posted. It was way to lengthy to try again...but I've had some sleep and will copy before posting incase it happens again.
There is a way, but at best it is convoluted and very tech heavy. Honestly, you might be better off waiting to see of byutv starts to support Chromecast... I've seen many forums requesting that from them so it might be better to wait and see...but if you absolutely MUST have it..there's only one way I've been able to divine.
You'll need serviio and aVia. Serviio is a free - with option to pay for - dlna server. Everyone should know what aVia is by now. I can not say with 100% certainty, but I'd hazard a guess the video is rtmp which is why vGet doesn't recognize it.. if I'm right you'll need to install a rtmp sniffer..there's about a billion of them, most free, others not. If it's not rtmp then I can't figure why vGet doesn't see it...but you could use something like getflv or something more free...the whole purpose is to get the url the video is pulling from. Armed with that you can head over to serviio and add it to the online media tab.
Confused? Good, cause it gets worse. Chances are this video may not be compatible with Chromecast and if that's the case, you're going to need to get serviio to encode it on the fly...which is simple, however, serviio does not a profile built in for Chromecast. Do a Google search for Serviio Chromecast Profile AllCast, that will get you to the profile you'll need to add. With the profile, you're now going to need to get serviio to "see" the Chromecast. It doesn't do this by default as Chromecast it's not a dlna device. Instead, you'll need to assign a static ip address to something..say your computer. Let serviio cache that ip (it'll stay cached until you remove or upgrade serviio), then manually assign that ip address to your Chromecast. Once done, in the profiles page you need to change the profile of both your android device running aVia and the Chromecast to the AllCast profile I mentioned earlier.
It will work this way, android with tell serviio, via aVia, to play the online media. Serviio with download and encode the media so that's it's compatible with Chromecast, and then serviio with send the media to Chromecast which will then display it.
In this manner ANY online media is technically playable through Chromecast but...the set up and execution takes a flare of mad cap genius and elbow grease.
Not claiming that there might not be an easier way..God knows maybe bubble, playon, plex, etc might be able to do it in a simple straight forward manner.. just saying that this one will work....and not just for byutv, but for anything. Good luck! Personally, . I'd wait hahaha (edited to mention that it did happen)

primetime34 said:
I tried that extension but the icon never appears for me to be able to use it. It works on other sites, but I can't get it to work on BYUTV.org. Any specific video you used it on that actually worked for you?
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I just clicked on a couple at random (not being a regular user of that site), and the WebCast icon appeared for me.

DJames1 said:
I just clicked on a couple at random (not being a regular user of that site), and the WebCast icon appeared for me.
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I think the issue is that there is a commercial before the show. Would you mind clicking on the webcast icon and see if a full episode plays, or just a 30 second ad only? Thanks.

primetime34 said:
I think the issue is that there is a commercial before the show. Would you mind clicking on the webcast icon and see if a full episode plays, or just a 30 second ad only? Thanks.
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Yes, I think you're right - it plays the ad and then quits when it gets to the start of the show.

Chromiumcast OS

Since Chromecast OS is basically a cut-down version of Chrome OS, shouldn't the code be in Chromium OS codebase?
If so, we should build a Chromiumcast OS and port it to those MiniPC's on them market (if we have the kernel sources and drivers).
Can anyone check the possibility of the above?
However, since Chrome OS uses a different kind of boot image, we should ask Chainfire for help, since he is working on the Chromebook Pixel, as it has such a boot image.
It is funny thought, Google puts Android on a Chromebook, and we may put Chrom(ium) OS on Android devices.
Update 1: Sorry for posting this here, XDA Labs isn't letting me reply to my own thread, but why not port it?
We should make it a full Chromium OS (with the abilities to make a local owner account and recieving casts, as well as casting to another device), while we're at it.
Update 2: Apparently it's a known XDA Labs server API issue, they're working on though, for now I need to wait for there to be a 2nd page to be able to post seperately from the opening post.
If it's just a webpage, then how about packaging it for the different systems (Windows, OS X, Linux, Android, Ubuntu Touch, Firefox OS, iOS, Windows Modern (8/8.1), Windows Universal (10), Sailfish, Unix, Chrome OS, etc.)?
Yes, I'm aware that half of these technically (via ports, for example) are either Linux or Unix (and that Linux is a port of Unix).
I would have included SkyOS, however it appears to have been discontinued before even graduating Alpha... several years ago.

It's not really a cut down version of Chrome OS but more of a cut down version of the Chrome Browser sans any ability to run Chrome OS Apps.
Similar to the chrome browser you find in an Android Phone.

It has nothing to do with what the OS is based on, the important part isn't the OS, but the actual cast receiver application. I was tinkering around with it for a little while and ended up with a not-entirely-functional APK file that implemented a cast receiver, using actual google code and libraries. Installed it on a Nexus 7, which was discoverable as a cast receiver on the network. More important thing to work on led to ignoring the project for a while.

doitright said:
It has nothing to do with what the OS is based on, the important part isn't the OS, but the actual cast receiver application. I was tinkering around with it for a little while and ended up with a not-entirely-functional APK file that implemented a cast receiver, using actual google code and libraries. Installed it on a Nexus 7, which was discoverable as a cast receiver on the network. More important thing to work on led to ignoring the project for a while.
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The Cast Receiver is usually not much more than an HTML5 webpage.

Asphyx said:
The Cast Receiver is usually not much more than an HTML5 webpage.
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The cast receiver is a LOT more than a webpage.

doitright said:
The cast receiver is a LOT more than a webpage.
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you can browse them all in just about any browser.
Want proof
Look at the linkage in the whitelist and go to the URLs for any receiver...
Example....
https://www.gstatic.com/cv/cast/apps/receiver/webrtc/stable/receiver1.html
They may call them HTM5 Applications but when it comes right down to it there is no difference between that and a webpage. Only in rare cases will they put security that denies a browser from loading them and in most cases if it fails to work it is only because they require and use some firmware code (i.e. Video Player) to function.

Asphyx said:
you can browse them all in just about any browser.
Want proof
Look at the linkage in the whitelist and go to the URLs for any receiver...
Example....
https://www.gstatic.com/cv/cast/apps/receiver/webrtc/stable/receiver1.html
They may call them HTM5 Applications but when it comes right down to it there is no difference between that and a webpage. Only in rare cases will they put security that denies a browser from loading them and in most cases if it fails to work it is only because they require and use some firmware code (i.e. Video Player) to function.
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That web page does absolutely nothing.

doitright said:
That web page does absolutely nothing.
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Except load the receiver app that is waiting for linkage information from the app that was supposed to launch it when it connected to the CCast!
99.9% of the work is done at the controlling device not the receiver app.
That is the only thing the CCast actually loads the rest is sent to that receiver by the Controler app!
When you connect to the CCast from an app that's all the CCasts loads. Once loaded you can then send content to that Receiver.
Here is the receiver app Plex tells the CCast to load when you first connect their App to the CCast....
https://chromecast.plex.tv/production/index.html
The receivers are nothing more than webpages with various media players and java applications.

Asphyx said:
Except load the receiver app that is waiting for linkage information from the app that was supposed to launch it when it connected to the CCast!
99.9% of the work is done at the controlling device not the receiver app.
That is the only thing the CCast actually loads the rest is sent to that receiver by the Controler app!
When you connect to the CCast from an app that's all the CCasts loads. Once loaded you can then send content to that Receiver.
Here is the receiver app Plex tells the CCast to load when you first connect their App to the CCast....
https://chromecast.plex.tv/production/index.html
The receivers are nothing more than webpages with various media players and java applications.
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Just keep telling yourself that it actually does something. :good:

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Just keep telling yourself that it actually does something. :good:
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There really is no teaching the ignorant....
That page is the only thing the CCast loads!
The rest is done on the mobile device and that receiver does nothing without the mobile device connecting to that page you say does nothing...
Tell me did you try reading the source code of that page or was that too difficult for you?

Asphyx said:
There really is no teaching the ignorant....
That page is the only thing the CCast loads!
The rest is done on the mobile device and that receiver does nothing without the mobile device connecting to that page you say does nothing...
Tell me did you try reading the source code of that page or was that too difficult for you?
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Let me make this very clear;
1) Install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netflix.mediaclient&hl=en
2) Run it.
3) hit the chromecast button. Oh, there is none! Too bad.

doitright said:
Let me make this very clear;
1) Install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.netflix.mediaclient&hl=en
2) Run it.
3) hit the chromecast button. Oh, there is none! Too bad.
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Took you long enough to find the ONE RECEIVER APP (and it is the ONLY APP) that doesn't get loaded from the WEB because it is part of the CCast Firmware!
I find it interesting that in a discussion of RECEIVER APPS you show something from the play store where there are no receiver apps to try and prove your wrong point.

Just look at the Chromecast firmware, there's custom ROMs here. In theory you could just look at it and experiment...

I understand that there is no point in porting ChromiumOS, but what about the AndroidTV UI, with Cast Recieving built-in?

moriel5 said:
I understand that there is no point in porting ChromiumOS, but what about the AndroidTV UI, with Cast Recieving built-in?
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That would be awesome!

I think it could be a perfect combo to turn a Raspberry Pi into a casting device. Chromium OS already exists for Raspberry Pi, but it still has to be improved. http://www.chromiumosforsbc.org/

DaniPhii said:
I think it could be a perfect combo to turn a Raspberry Pi into a casting device. Chromium OS already exists for Raspberry Pi, but it still has to be improved. http://www.chromiumosforsbc.org/
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I agree, but I would love if someone managed to remove the mandatory Google login, otherwise I won't use it.
Deleted my account some time back, don't want to open another one.

moriel5 said:
I understand that there is no point in porting ChromiumOS, but what about the AndroidTV UI, with Cast Recieving built-in?
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I was searching online for this b/c i figured someone would have done it by now. I'd really like to see android TV on chromecast

x000x said:
I was searching online for this b/c i figured someone would have done it by now. I'd really like to see android TV on chromecast
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But the Google log-in should be optional, not mandatory.