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I just received an email from T-Mobile and the Nexus 4 is available on the T-Mobile site. I find this funny because I NEVER received any email from Google about the N4 product release. Huuummmm????
Here is the link:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=Google-Nexus-4
T-mobile selling it for $499
Bwhahahahahhahahahhah
ap3604 said:
T-mobile selling it for $499
Bwhahahahahhahahahhah
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Bought mine for $199.00 on an upgrade which I was going to do anyways, but at least it's in my hands and I am loving it so far. Sold my GNEX for 200 an hour after I bought the N4 , so my out of pocket expense was zero dollars, not bad at all.
Only in America. It's not in my country! (yes we have T-Mobile too)
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Bought mine for $199.00 on an upgrade which I was going to do anyways, but at least it's in my hands and I am loving it so far. Sold my GNEX for 200 an hour after I bought the N4 , so my out of pocket expense was zero dollars, not bad at all.
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$199, and still Unlocked? Or are you stuck with using the Device for T-mobile only?
(since you signed a new 2yr contract, I'm aware you are stuck with T-mobile as a carrier.. Just curious if the phone is unlocked or not.)
I want to buy the off-contract do you guys now where can i buy near brooklyn and Lawrence!?
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$199, and still Unlocked? Or are you stuck with using the Device for T-mobile only?
(since you signed a new 2yr contract, I'm aware you are stuck with T-mobile as a carrier.. Just curious if the phone is unlocked or not.)
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Not a big deal for me, I hate AT&T and I have to have a GSM phone because I travel overseas for my business and CDMA is not and option for me. I still find T-mobile the best bang for the buck, hands down. I have never had any issues with customer service and the coverage and network speeds are fine for my everyday needs. So far the N4 upgrade was best 200 dollars I have spent, and I sold my GNEX for 200 an hour after I bought the N4 so my out of pocket expense was zero, not bad.
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Not a big deal for me, I hate AT&T and I have to have a GSM phone because I travel overseas for my business and CDMA is not and option for me. I still find T-mobile the best bang for the buck, hands down. I have never had any issues with customer service and the coverage and network speeds are fine for my everyday needs. So far the N4 upgrade was best 200 dollars I have spent, and I sold my GNEX for 200 an hour after I bought the N4 so my out of pocket expense was zero, not bad.
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Did they mention the 20 payments of $15 you'll be making to recover their loss on the phone and bringing your total to $499?
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Did they mention the 20 payments of $15 you'll be making to recover their loss on the phone and bringing your total to $499?
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I renewed my contract so it was 199.00, I was going to renew it anyways. I been with them for 6 years and have been more then pleased.
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Just announced!
http://about.att.com/story/samsung_galaxy_pre_order_information.html
"AT&T announced that pre-orders begin tomorrow for the Samsung Galaxy S® 5 in the U.S. at att.com or at AT&T stores. Shipping for pre-orders will begin in early April.
The Galaxy S 5 is available at $25 per month with AT&T Next 18, $32.50 per month with AT&T Next 12 or $199.99 with a two-year agreement. Full retail price for the device with no commitment is $649.99."
They were cutting it close for me. Had the new HTC been available sooner thats the route I would be going. But ill be placing my preorder for the s5 as soon as they will let me.
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That's are good and affordable price i think...
No idea at the moment. I know AT&T is only releasing the 16GB for now and no 32GB confirmation. If T-mobile releases the 32GB along with the 16GB, I'll order it from T-mobile.
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No idea at the moment. I know AT&T is only releasing the 16GB for now and no 32GB confirmation. If T-mobile releases the 32GB along with the 16GB, I'll order it from T-mobile.
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Where would you unlock it?
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barondebxl said:
Where would you unlock it?
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I wont. Thinking about switching carriers anyways
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I wont. Thinking about switching carriers anyways
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Oh OK lol
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Just preordered Hell yeah!!
Just checked their site and it's available, yeah...but only in black or white. Where's the "electric blue"? I'll be holding off preordering until that's available.
Meh....should of known. 16GB models only have about 9GB free storage from the MWC videos. I'll be waiting to see what t-mobile has to offer.
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Meh....should of known. 16GB models only have about 9GB free storage from the MWC videos. I'll be waiting to see what t-mobile has to offer.
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10.7GB! http://www.phonearena.com/news/16GB...ually-offers-10.7GB-of-usable-storage_id53383
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10.7GB! http://www.phonearena.com/news/16GB...ually-offers-10.7GB-of-usable-storage_id53383
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Still too little. 10.7GB - 1GB cache = 9.7GB - 3.7GB used space = 6GB. Well...I guess that is enough.
Pre-ordered!
Just ordered an AT&T S5 for my wife. I'm on Verizon through work and had them order me a Note 3 that I'll have on Monday. New phones for everyone! LOL
I actually just cancelled the pre-order. I'm going to need the 32gb model.
Question for those preordering, can you let me know how much more stable the new TW software will be? It's good on the Note 3, but that's because I have 3 GB of RAM!
Anyone know if there's a way to preorder for use on prepaid? I'm on T-mobile, but switching to AT&T for better coverage. From looking at their new plans, it actually cost more ($65+tax and fees) for a monthly plan vs prepaid at $60+tax only. Same 2GB of LTE.
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Anyone know if there's a way to preorder for use on prepaid? I'm on T-mobile, but switching to AT&T for better coverage. From looking at their new plans, it actually cost more ($65+tax and fees) for a monthly plan vs prepaid at $60+tax only. Same 2GB of LTE.
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I would imagine if your intention is to pay full retail for it, they will sell it to you on preorder just the same as someone on contract getting it subsidized.
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I would imagine if your intention is to pay full retail for it, they will sell it to you on preorder just the same as someone on contract getting it subsidized.
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Unfortunately, when I go though the process and choose the pay in full option it still forces me to pick a plan to checkout. I guess I'l have to stop by a store next week and see if they can do it for me. Just a pain in the butt.
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Just announced!
http://about.att.com/story/samsung_galaxy_pre_order_information.html
"AT&T announced that pre-orders begin tomorrow for the Samsung Galaxy S® 5 in the U.S. at att.com or at AT&T stores. Shipping for pre-orders will begin in early April.
The Galaxy S 5 is available at $25 per month with AT&T Next 18, $32.50 per month with AT&T Next 12 or $199.99 with a two-year agreement. Full retail price for the device with no commitment is $649.99."
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great news buddy but when it will happen in india....
Seeing no option for no commitment pricing in premier.
I tried to get the 649 retail at best buy but got denied because the Corporate store doesn't allow you to buy full price on Launch Days?
I had to pay the 750 best buy price. Can anyone else confirm this?
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Bsmith0731 said:
I tried to get the 649 retail at best buy but got denied because the Corporate store doesn't allow you to buy full price on Launch Days?
I had to pay the 750 best buy price. Can anyone else confirm this?
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Why did u pay that much for a locked down carrier device good lord.
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Why did u pay that much for a locked down carrier device good lord.
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There is nothing wrong with that. I did. There aren't really many options, are there? If I bought the international variant then I'd get no LTE.
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Why did u pay that much for a locked down carrier device good lord.
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I wanted the phone but wasn't eligible for an upgrade
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I'm thinking about getting the s5 also because I've been missing my s4. Does anyone think the at&t Next program is good? And is anyone else on the Next upgrade plan?
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I'm thinking about getting the s5 also because I've been missing my s4. Does anyone think the at&t Next program is good? And is anyone else on the Next upgrade plan?
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I did mine on the next plan... all it is is a monthly payment plan to pay the full retail price of the phone, $650... so it's $32.50/month for the plan that lets you upgrade every year ($32.50/month x 18 months = $650). when you want to upgrade in a year (or 18 months and the phone would be paid in full), you either trade the phone in for the next one or just pay off the remaining balance ($260) and then sell the old one online and get the new phone on the NEXT plan
I don't know much as the next program. I don't like it from what I've read
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I did mine on the next plan... all it is is a monthly payment plan to pay the full retail price of the phone, $650... so it's $32.50/month for the plan that lets you upgrade every year ($32.50/month x 18 months = $650). when you want to upgrade in a year (or 18 months and the phone would be paid in full), you either trade the phone in for the next one or just pay off the remaining balance ($260) and then sell the old one online and get the new phone on the NEXT plan
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What is your bill if you don't mind me asking. Mine is $79 plus the 32 would be like $113-114. I think I might wait till it gets a little older and the next price would be a little cheaper than I'll get one.
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What is your bill if you don't mind me asking. Mine is $79 plus the 32 would be like $113-114. I think I might wait till it gets a little older and the next price would be a little cheaper than I'll get one.
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well, I haven't received a bill yet that has the NEXT upgrade on it... so, my bill is $125 now, will be ~$158.00 with my SGS 5 on it.
$100 -> 10GB data bucket (shared between my wife and I)
$15 -> wife's line cost (for service)
$15 -> my line cost (for service)
$32.50 -> SGS 5
23% off national account discount
taxes
=$158 ish with the NEXT plan added
if you have a 10GB or higher mobile share plan, your lines are just $15/each if you are 1) financing a phone through NEXT; OR 2)pay for the phone upfront
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I don't know much as the next program. I don't like it from what I've read
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If you're on the newer Mobile Share plans (especially 10GB+) it will save you money over a new two year contract. You do see a little bit of a higher monthly bill, but you save quite a bit over time. Make sure to get AT&T Insurance or Squaretrade, though. And the 20 month Next is better than the 26 month Next.
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If your going to spend $600+ you better invest that into a international version that supports AT&T LTE bands. You won't benefit anything from the AT&T version far as root, roms, etc since our bootloader is "locked"
Also AT&T Next is great if your into staying up to date with the latest devices like most of us here. Like the users said above but with more detail you can choose to lease/finance the device for either 12 months or 18 months. You pay $0 deposit down and depending on the terms of the lease/finance you can either pay $22 or $32 a month.
Your plan and everything decides on how much data you need. i have the 20GB plan with 6 lines. my bill is around $200-$250 a month. 3 of those lines are on the Next program
That's new to me. Wasn't sure the international version could support ATT
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The Project said:
This is a TERRIBLE idea. Just pay the $650 now and then sell the phone in 1-2 years for $300.
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meh.. same difference for me.. I'll likely pay it in full in a few months anyways when the iPhone 6 comes out and get that too... in the end, I pay full price for the phone regardless.
The "Next" plan is a ripoff unless you're the type who is scared to sell a phone on Craigslist. An absolute ripoff.
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I did mine on the next plan... all it is is a monthly payment plan to pay the full retail price of the phone, $650... so it's $32.50/month for the plan that lets you upgrade every year ($32.50/month x 18 months = $650). when you want to upgrade in a year (or 18 months and the phone would be paid in full), you either trade the phone in for the next one or just pay off the remaining balance ($260) and then sell the old one online and get the new phone on the NEXT plan
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exactly what i have, i coupled my $25 phone payment plan (18 month instead of your 12 month) with the new 2GB data value plan
What if you get it on contract. Its $199 down payment and $320 as ETF.
Total $520.
Is there any catch? You can cancel the contract after 1 month, pay the ETF and keep the phone??
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exactly what i have, i coupled my $25 phone payment plan (18 month instead of your 12 month) with the new 2GB data value plan
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Yup, that's the same thing I did. My contract would have ended this September, but my previous phone (iPhone 5) was one drop away from being completely broken. Because of that, I said screw it, bit the bullet and did the early upgrade to the 18 month Next plan with the 2GB mobile share plan. I would have much rather the traditional 2-year contract plan, but oh well...no way my phone would have survived another 6 or so months.
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What if you get it on contract. Its $199 down payment and $320 as ETF.
Total $520.
Is there any catch? You can cancel the contract after 1 month, pay the ETF and keep the phone??
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Yeah, the phone is yours if you choose to go down that path. Personally, I try my best to avoid the ETF, simply out of principle.
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This is SO SO SO true! Basically with next you are still paying around $650 in 2 years for a new phone BUT you don't get to keep it.
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You can keep the phone on the Next plan. You don't have to trade it in if you don't want to. The phone is still yours no matter what...you just have to pay it off either way.
If i was gonna pay full retail I'd have gotten the Tmo S5 which apparently has an Unlocked BL, it is compatible with ATT LTE. Which is why I asked why the OP paid so much for the ATT version which is locked down as tight as fort knox...Still hoping a root exploit is found for ATT at the very least, if not not a big deal to me as its going to my GF who has no use for custom rom/kernels.
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If i was gonna pay full retail I'd have gotten the Tmo S5 which apparently has an Unlocked BL, it is compatible with ATT LTE. Which is why I asked why the OP paid so much for the ATT version which is locked down as tight as fort knox...Still hoping a root exploit is found for ATT at the very least, if not not a big deal to me as its going to my GF who has no use for custom rom/kernels.
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Still have the option to take it back. How would I get an AT&T sim?
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Me personally I rather have the contract plan and pay $100 - $200 for a phone then have to pay full price.
Here's the source material since it wasn't included in the OP:
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-may-go-un-carrier-and-ditch-phone-subsidies-and-contracts-2015
I was afraid this would happen... I too rather pay a discounted price for a phone than have to pay full price...
Nooooo! I don't mind my contract phone. At least I bought it for a good price, not full retail. ?
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I certainly would not mind it. Sprint has terrible coverage in my area but T-Mobile has awesome coverage. I would probably switch given the chance.
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I certainly would not mind it. Sprint has terrible coverage in my area but T-Mobile has awesome coverage. I would probably switch given the chance.
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Well I read somewhere that T-Mobile is paying off early term fees if you switch to them. Just a thought....
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Yeah we did the math and if we did that then after phone costs and what not we wouldn't break even until about two years in anyways.
But yeah T-Mobile is paying. Up to 350 dollars a line. They send it to you in the form of a gift card.
Good to know. Thanks for the update. Looks like it's not even worth checking into for our family. ?
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Sprint can't ever get away from the contracts or they would go under. They are hands down the worst provider of all the cell services and pretty much everyone I know including myself would leave them in a heartbeat if they could right away. I am just biding my time until I can be free from this god awful 2 year contract of pure **** service.
We got a call in January stating they are finally putting LTE in our service area (Detroit) and there are only 3-4 places I actually get it. I finally went into the store yesterday to talk to a rep and they told me my problem was that I need to disable 4G LTE for another 6 months until they have completed the roll out, and to just stick with 3G for the time being.
I can barely stream music, can't load video, and web pages crawl at best.
"Disable your LTE to get better service" was their official reply. They should be ashamed of themselves. I the last 6 months of having them my TOTAL DATA consumed is 1.8GB. I want to be using 1.8GB a week, not every 6 freaking months.
It wouldn't be so bad if retail for a phone wasn't so darn expensive. Could never figure out why a phone costs $500 - $700 typically out of contract. For that price, I could buy a notebook (and possibility a tablet too). The price of a higher end tablet with a larger screen is in the $200 price range - and that is pretty much a phone minus the radio. So my deduction is they charge $400-500 for just the radio.
That is why I tend to get a new phone and sign a 2 year contract or else I am leaving money on the table by not upgrading at a subsidized rate.
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It wouldn't be so bad if retail for a phone wasn't so darn expensive. Could never figure out why a phone costs $500 - $700 typically out of contract. For that price, I could buy a notebook (and possibility a tablet too). The price of a higher end tablet with a larger screen is in the $200 price range - and that is pretty much a phone minus the radio. So my deduction is they charge $400-500 for just the radio.
That is why I tend to get a new phone and sign a 2 year contract or else I am leaving money on the table by not upgrading at a subsidized rate.
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The idea is that the plans where you have to buy your device are going to be cheaper than the ones with the subsidy built in. You won't be leaving any money on the table if it's implemented correctly.
I'm on Sprint no contract no credit check option with an HTC m8. I love this option the m8 was only $325 off craigslist brand-new and I'm not tied down for two years. $60 unlimited everything plan and I have no credit this is awesome!
Will a more reputable company buy out my contract with Sprint? Like say, Verizon or AT&T?
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Will a more reputable company buy out my contract with Sprint? Like say, Verizon or AT&T?
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I believe only T-Mobile it's the only one offering this right now.
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I'm on Sprint no contract no credit check option with an HTC m8. I love this option the m8 was only $325 off craigslist brand-new and I'm not tied down for two years. $60 unlimited everything plan and I have no credit this is awesome!
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I believe you're new to sprint. I joined sprint with same idea $60 unlimited plan. I got the bill for first month, it's $132. When I asked them, they told me $40 is the activation fee and rest are government taxes, etc. That means going forward my bill will be $92.
I asked them to add international calling add on for $15, they told me I need to do the credit check for that and after that they asked me to keep a deposit of $100 for 1 year, though the device is my own.
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I believe you're new to sprint. I joined sprint with same idea $60 unlimited plan. I got the bill for first month, it's $132. When I asked them, they told me $40 is the activation fee and rest are government taxes, etc. That means going forward my bill will be $92.
I asked them to add international calling add on for $15, they told me I need to do the credit check for that and after that they asked me to keep a deposit of $100 for 1 year, though the device is my own.
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I knew all that about the first month being $130. But Sprint employees told me $70 a month with fees and taxes after the initial activation month. I don't need international anything.
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Cashreedhar said:
I believe you're new to sprint. I joined sprint with same idea $60 unlimited plan. I got the bill for first month, it's $132. When I asked them, they told me $40 is the activation fee and rest are government taxes, etc. That means going forward my bill will be $92.
I asked them to add international calling add on for $15, they told me I need to do the credit check for that and after that they asked me to keep a deposit of $100 for 1 year, though the device is my own.
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You must be paying for the optional phone insurance it's an extra $11.00 every month. Check your account options and opt out. There's no reason for that to be $92 a month
I finally said F Sprint, and opened an account with Verizon. I can hardly make calls on Sprint let alone look something up online. On Verizon I have fast LTE 99.9% of the time, and I couldn't be happier. Trying to pick up a nexus 6 unlocked.
I will never understand people who cry and complain about a service provider. This isn't Yelp. It seriously showcases the most ignorant and uneducated. Look at a service map. Do some math. You're making an investment for crying out loud. So on to the point of this thread.
The HTC M8 Harman Kardon is currently $230 in most retailers on a 2 year contract. Also known as subsidy. The minimum rate plan for a single line with unlimited service is $80. 24 months of service is $1920 plus the $230 investment of the phone itself.
The same phone under the EZ Pay monthly installment plan is $0 down. The minimum rate plan for a single line with unlimited service is $60. 24 months of service including the $15 a month installment is $1800.
That is big time savings both up front at zero down and total two years savings. Even if you find a sale or promotion on subsidy the total two year investment is more. Period. This also doesn't take into account if you are eligible for membership or employer discounts. Credit Union members get waived activation fees and 10% off a month! No one else can touch this plan. Even T-Mobile. The installment plan is a complete and total win. Stop the belly aching about paying for a phone. You were always paying for a phone over subsidy it was simply masked in the rate plan cost. Remember when Sprint was charing $10 for "premium data"?
Sprint is just way more transparent now. More so than ever, maybe as a result of T-Mobile being aggressive. But it is flat out the most cost effective way to get a flagship phone and unlimited service. AT&T and Verizon don't even bother with unlimited service and T-Mobile short of their more expensive $70 plan will throttle you straight to the stone age. If you can't do homework over coverage or think the middle of Arkansas is as important as the Mid Atlantic then I'm sorry. Use Wi-Fi or look at a coverage map!!!
Sprint. Now and forever.
The only thing I don't like is sprint forces you to buy through them when you have 5 or more lines on your account. Tried to get my m8 on Amazon a few months ago and that was the case
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I will never understand people who cry and complain about a service provider. This isn't Yelp. It seriously showcases the most ignorant and uneducated. Look at a service map. Do some math. You're making an investment for crying out loud. So on to the point of this thread.
The HTC M8 Harman Kardon is currently $230 in most retailers on a 2 year contract. Also known as subsidy. The minimum rate plan for a single line with unlimited service is $80. 24 months of service is $1920 plus the $230 investment of the phone itself.
The same phone under the EZ Pay monthly installment plan is $0 down. The minimum rate plan for a single line with unlimited service is $60. 24 months of service including the $15 a month installment is $1800.
That is big time savings both up front at zero down and total two years savings. Even if you find a sale or promotion on subsidy the total two year investment is more. Period. This also doesn't take into account if you are eligible for membership or employer discounts. Credit Union members get waived activation fees and 10% off a month! No one else can touch this plan. Even T-Mobile. The installment plan is a complete and total win. Stop the belly aching about paying for a phone. You were always paying for a phone over subsidy it was simply masked in the rate plan cost. Remember when Sprint was charing $10 for "premium data"?
Sprint is just way more transparent now. More so than ever, maybe as a result of T-Mobile being aggressive. But it is flat out the most cost effective way to get a flagship phone and unlimited service. AT&T and Verizon don't even bother with unlimited service and T-Mobile short of their more expensive $70 plan will throttle you straight to the stone age. If you can't do homework over coverage or think the middle of Arkansas is as important as the Mid Atlantic then I'm sorry. Use Wi-Fi or look at a coverage map!!!
Sprint. Now and forever.
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Are you referring to me? I would love for you to point out where I'm crying. And maybe before you assume things and start calling people ignorant and uneducated you might want to instead assume that maybe you don't have all of the information.
So let me break it down for your simple mind. I have been a Sprint customer for 12 years, I moved 3 years ago and no longer had cell reception at my house, no biggy I got an airrave, and I basically only used my phone at home or work and both places I had reception. In the last month I have started doing a lot of driving for work and have been making a lot more phone calls, and after one phone call dropping for the fourth time I drove to the nearest verizon store looked at their coverage map and switched that same day. No more issues with dropped calls and I have reception everywhere I have gone so far.
As far as living in the middle of no where is concerned, I think not. I live 30 minutes north of Los Angeles. I hope berating others on internet forums makes you feel better about yourself. Have a wonderful day.
Looking for some possible advise, help, and encouragement to switch to T-Mobile from being a long time Verizon customer. I did some research but limited thus far. My main reasons for considering are to hopefully save some money on my monthly bill (although this aspect seems a bit of a reach at this point, see my paragraph below) & get a "rootable" Note 4 (which I understand T-Mobiles vs. Verizon is...)
So I called T-Mobile's Sales number via there website today. I first checked my address via their map/coverage page and verified that I am within a "good" to "excellent" area via my home regarding their service including full 4G LTE bandwidth. The conversation with the sales rep was lengthy as I pointed out that with Verizon, I am currently receiving a 20% discount on my bill along with a -$10 per month loyalty discount. With taxes, my bill with Verizon Wireless is aprox $84 total which includes Unlimited Talk & Text and 4GB monthly data. Bottom line, the best the T-Mobile rep could do after applying an additional $50 credit to the purchase of their Note 4 is basically $82 BEFORE the extra taxing and fees which they for some reason couldn't even tell me. So I estimated roughly based on the extra added to my current Verizon bill of apox $8 in Fed/State/Regulatory/911 ect fees which would bring me to paying T-mobile $90 total per month. Now with that said, I realize this isn't a large increase but albeit an increase that I honestly wasn't expecting. Yes, I would get the ETF payed via a debit card they would get to me in 6 to 8 weeks. Yes, according to the rep and my Verizon Note 4 being in good condition with no screen breakage/cracks or water damage, they would also be giving me a $260 trade in which would start applying to T-Mobile bills around the 2nd or 3rd month and beyond until that credit was used up which in essence should give me aprox 3 months paid for service when that were to take effect. BUT, also, the plan chosen to keep within the range of what I am paying Verizon is their "Simple Starter Kit" plan only coming with 2GB data and after reaching that point, simply cuts off my data completely which I wasn't real thrilled about. I did mention that I had heard T-Mobile doesn't cut off or charge overages for data, however, was then attempted to be talked into their $50+ plan that includes the throttle down option. Another thing I noted in the conversation was the desired and ironically same Assuron Insurance for Smartphones but Verizon's being $5 something on my current bill and T-Mobile charging $8 for same said coverage.
So all and all, I am obviously a little discouraged in switching other than the benefit in obtaining a "rootable" Note 4 in the process.
Any possible suggestions, tips, or words of encouragement since I am a bit on the fence by anyone that was in a similar situation OR knowledge of T-Mobile is appreciated.
I would also prefer doing the switch in a local T-Mobile outlet or store, however, as noted by the sales rep over the phone, if I did that at this point I would not only lose their offer of the $50 phone discount but also incur another "credit check" which along with them not being able to give me an actual total bill expectation including fees & taxes, ect... and the presumed billing increase in switching carriers along with half the data allowance has me thinking what is it worth...
Basically I would be paying $45 for the plan + $8 Assuron Ins. + $29.15 for the note 4 per month = $82.15 BEFORE taxes, ect... which is an unknown. :silly:
Oh, and just to add, my initial cost would be $57.89 which is for (I think), downpayment on Note 4, Sim Card, and free 2 to 4 business days shipping.
Sell note 4 on swappa or eBay trade in any phone u have in dresser
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This thread talks about that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/help/stitched-verizon-note-4-t2954764
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This one 2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/help/thinking-moving-verizon-note-4-t2918348
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This is the Google search I'm using.
https://www.google.com/search?site=......1c..61.mobile-gws-hp..0.1.30.3.iILEVeNym9w
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BTW just do it.
Don't trade in your phone. Sell it somewhere else like ebay or craigslist and get more money out of it. Probably max you can get is $500 if its in excellent condition.
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Had droid turbo, sold on Craigslist for 450. Bought lg g2 on Craigslist for cheap and traded that in. They gave me 70 for trade in, that 70 covered everything that day and gave me a 5 credit on bill. And of course, t-mobile paying etf.
Thanks for the suggestions and I will do some more research along with following the posted links. The ONLY other phone I would have to potentially trade in to get the ETF for leaving Verizon paid as I understand T-Mobile requires the trade in order to give this out, would be an older "Windows" phone from years back. I am sure it would give me NO value for actual trade but possibly qualify good enough for T-Mobile and paying off my ETF?
arielovin said:
Don't trade in your phone. Sell it somewhere else like ebay or craigslist and get more money out of it. Probably max you can get is $500 if its in excellent condition.
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I thought about this angle, however, I am almost certain T-Mobile requires a trade-in of what I presumed before had to be my actual current Verizon SmartPhone - Note 4, recently bought on my 2yr renewal discount in Oct last year and thus renewed my contract so getting the "ETF payoff credit" is a big deal to me. Otherwise, I will just ride it out another 2 years and not incur any fees if then deciding to re-investigate.
PS: Sorry, I should have knew better as to where to post this type of scenario which basically did end up being a question(s)... Thank's Mod for moving to appropriate forum.
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Thanks for the suggestions and I will do some more research along with following the posted links. The ONLY other phone I would have to potentially trade in to get the ETF for leaving Verizon paid as I understand T-Mobile requires the trade in order to give this out, would be an older "Windows" phone from years back. I am sure it would give me NO value for actual trade but possibly qualify good enough for T-Mobile and paying off my ETF?
I thought about this angle, however, I am almost certain T-Mobile requires a trade-in of what I presumed before had to be my actual current Verizon SmartPhone - Note 4, recently bought on my 2yr renewal discount in Oct last year and thus renewed my contract so getting the "ETF payoff credit" is a big deal to me. Otherwise, I will just ride it out another 2 years and not incur any fees if then deciding to re-investigate.
PS: Sorry, I should have knew better as to where to post this type of scenario which basically did end up being a question(s)... Thank's Mod for moving to appropriate forum.
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You mentioned the nokia phone was old. I doubt they will give you anything for the phone as phone company's are a-holes like that. You could always buy a note off someone online for cheaper and not pay the month for month.
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Please don't take this a discouragement but my experience switching from ATT. I live in the dreaded "dead spot" so I had 1 bar signal from ATT in my home. Wifi calling was and is a huge plus for me. Ends up I have full bars in my house from Tmobile so that was a nice surprise. Now the crappy part. I live in philly but grew up in pittsburgh and frequently make the 300 mile trip across the state on the turnpike. For bout 200 of those miles I have 1 to none bars and no data. When I can't check my fantasy football scores coming home on sunday is not a good and I may have taught my kids some words I shouldn't have. So , for me , it was important to havve a rootable phone but at a cost of service quality I didn't expect. I would do what you can to check your service in areas you frequent when you switch over. I'm sure it'll be fine for you but this was how I felt about switching.
All that said, I like my pimped out phone more than fantasy football!
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You mentioned the nokia phone was old. I doubt they will give you anything for the phone as phone company's are a-holes like that. You could always buy a note off someone online for cheaper and not pay the month for month.
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Yea, I just checked, the Nokia is only valued at $22 via T-Mobiles Trade in check online. I am currently exploring the purchasing of a used T-Mobile Note 4 via either swappa or ebay and since as I looked up the value of me Verizon Note 4 according to listings on Swappa to be around $500+ as it's in excellent condition, will likely pursue this avenue, thus hopefully be able to come close to breaking even regarding my Note 4 (selling) and acquiring a pre-owned T-Mobile Note 4 on my own.
The slight catch to this as I called the local T-Mobile store is in order to qualify to having my ETF paid off by T-Mobile is not only requiring the trade of ANY smartphone + the purchase of one of their phones. However, with that said, according to the rep I spoke with, I could simply buy a cheap T-Mobile phone at aprox $30 to $40 and not activate it but instead have my own T-Mobile (purchased at said above site(s)) to be the one activated.
Lol, can you tell I'm penny pinching? :silly: Guess being unemployed currently puts a person like me in that position.... blah
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Yea, I just checked, the Nokia is only valued at $22 via T-Mobiles Trade in check online. I am currently exploring the purchasing of a used T-Mobile Note 4 via either swappa or ebay and since as I looked up the value of me Verizon Note 4 according to listings on Swappa to be around $500+ as it's in excellent condition, will likely pursue this avenue, thus hopefully be able to come close to breaking even regarding my Note 4 (selling) and acquiring a pre-owned T-Mobile Note 4 on my own.
The slight catch to this as I called the local T-Mobile store is in order to qualify to having my ETF paid off by T-Mobile is not only requiring the trade of ANY smartphone + the purchase of one of their phones. However, with that said, according to the rep I spoke with, I could simply buy a cheap T-Mobile phone at aprox $30 to $40 and not activate it but instead have my own T-Mobile (purchased at said above site(s)) to be the one activated.
Lol, can you tell I'm penny pinching? :silly: Guess being unemployed currently puts a person like me in that position.... blah
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You could do that, but how much is verizon charging you for your early termination fees? But like bubba fett said you should check your area first and see which carrier has the strongest signal in your area then make your decisions from there.
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You could do that, but how much is verizon charging you for your early termination fees? But like bubba fett said you should check your area first and see which carrier has the strongest signal in your area then make your decisions from there.
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As I understand, Verizon will charge me $350 - whatever credited usage since Oct 23rd, 2014 new contract purchase. With that said, I am being told no mattter the ETF payoff, as long as I meet said requirements, T-Mobile will pay the ETF via a debit card refund in 6 - 8 weeks.
Now a little bit more confusion. The local rep I have been verifying things with as of late may be telling me some wrong information. I simply tried to call him to ask the question if I could still purchase insurance to cover presumed used T-Mobile Note 4 I would purchase and bring on my own. He was busy with another customer so I started to explain situation to another Rep at said store and was told that NO, a $30 to $40 purchase of one of their phones would not qualify me. It would have to be a minimum of $100 retail phone and have to be charged onto my plan at aprox $4 a month (I guess no big deal...) except for the fact that I am now becoming a bit discouraged at who knows what at T-Mobile.
And I'm awaiting a call back from original rep as I didn't get a chance to ask my question regarding insurance on my own T-Mobile Note 4 if I go this route as once the 2nd rep realized I've been in initial conversation with 1st rep, he decided to have him call me back to handle my questions.
Update: Ok, first rep called me back and verified to me that a simple purchase of a $30 phone w/o having to activate it would qualify me along with ANY smartphone trade to get my total ETF paid off, however, he did have a little bit of discouraging news to give me regarding my ability to buy insurance on plan on a T-Mobile (used) Note 4 I would be bringing in if I purchase via ebay, swappa, ect... This is a no go. They ONLY offer this insurance if purchasing directly through them. I know with Verizon, my previous Galaxy S4 I purchased on my own during contract via craigslist and was able to have Assuron at $5 something added even with it being one I brought in myself. Hrmmm... Decisions, Decisions.....
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As I understand, Verizon will charge me $350 - whatever credited usage since Oct 23rd, 2014 new contract purchase. With that said, I am being told no mattter the ETF payoff, as long as I meet said requirements, T-Mobile will pay the ETF via a debit card refund in 6 - 8 weeks.
Now a little bit more confusion. The local rep I have been verifying things with as of late may be telling me some wrong information. I simply tried to call him to ask the question if I could still purchase insurance to cover presumed used T-Mobile Note 4 I would purchase and bring on my own. He was busy with another customer so I started to explain situation to another Rep at said store and was told that NO, a $30 to $40 purchase of one of their phones would not qualify me. It would have to be a minimum of $100 retail phone and have to be charged onto my plan at aprox $4 a month (I guess no big deal...) except for the fact that I am now becoming a bit discouraged at who knows what at T-Mobile.
And I'm awaiting a call back from original rep as I didn't get a chance to ask my question regarding insurance on my own T-Mobile Note 4 if I go this route as once the 2nd rep realized I've been in initial conversation with 1st rep, he decided to have him call me back to handle my questions.
Update: Ok, first rep called me back and verified to me that a simple purchase of a $30 phone w/o having to activate it would qualify me along with ANY smartphone trade to get my total ETF paid off, however, he did have a little bit of discouraging news to give me regarding my ability to buy insurance on plan on a T-Mobile (used) Note 4 I would be bringing in if I purchase via ebay, swappa, ect... This is a no go. They ONLY offer this insurance if purchasing directly through them. I know with Verizon, my previous Galaxy S4 I purchased on my own during contract via craigslist and was able to have Assuron at $5 something added even with it being one I brought in myself. Hrmmm... Decisions, Decisions.....
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That's a bummer usually carriers give you the option for insurance like for say i have sprint, if i buy a used from someone else it still gives me the option to put insurance on it. Your still going to be losing money because you paid a lot for the note on verizon and your going to be giving it to tmobile for the early termination, but then you have to purchase it again from them and pay monthly for it. Tough decision, chat with tmobile rep. on their site to get more info and see if your satisfied from there.
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That's a bummer usually carriers give you the option for insurance like for say i have sprint, if i buy a used from someone else it still gives me the option to put insurance on it. Your still going to be losing money because you paid a lot for the note on verizon and your going to be giving it to tmobile for the early termination, but then you have to purchase it again from them and pay monthly for it. Tough decision, chat with tmobile rep. on their site to get more info and see if your satisfied from there.
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Thanks, Actually the part about giving them my Verizon Note 4 is not going to be the case. I have another "cheap" Nokia windows phone to trade and have confirmed ANY smartphone is acceptable as the trade-in clause of getting my ETF paid off, regardless if it is not my particular Verizon one, working, ect... I plan on trying to re-coup my expenses somewhat in IF I purchase a used T-Mobile Note 4 via ebay/swappa by the resale of my Verizon Note 4 on my own via the same method.
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Thanks, Actually the part about giving them my Verizon Note 4 is not going to be the case. I have another "cheap" Nokia windows phone to trade and have confirmed ANY smartphone is acceptable as the trade-in clause of getting my ETF paid off, regardless if it is not my particular Verizon one, working, ect... I plan on trying to re-coup my expenses somewhat in IF I purchase a used T-Mobile Note 4 via ebay/swappa by the resale of my Verizon Note 4 on my own via the same method.
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Cool. Good luck on the switch. Inform us on what happens :thumbup:
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Cool. Good luck on the switch. Inform us on what happens :thumbup:
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Thanks. For now I believe I am going to hold out a bit.
- I was outbid on ebay.
- Concern about insurance coverage and inability to get through carrier (T-Mobile) since would be considered a "used" phone.
- Potential progress as posted in the Verizon "Let's Talk Root" thread.
Carrying through with original OP plan.
Update:
Found one on swappa and won it. Just awaiting it to be shipped. :highfive:
Also, just prior to doing that, I signed up for T-Mobile's "Test Drive" program to confirm reception, ect... - sending me a stupid I-phone as test phone, lol - never messed with one of them and never had any desire to. Oh well
Hoping I didn't put the cart ahead of the horse in regards to last two sentences before having real life opportunity to test but according to reception map and talks with local T-Mobile store, feel fairly confident.
Next steps after receiving my T-Mobile Note 4 will be to proceed with rooting - recovery - and choosing a ROM... So many decisions. :laugh:
i'm not understanding this portion " the extra taxing and fees"
All carriers charge the same surcharges and taxes (variable only depending on state)
btw i was a former verizon corp employee and i made the switch once my employment ended, wouldn't look back as i would not be paying consumer pricing with verizon. I have not noticed a diff in service, if anything wifi calling makes things a lot better everywhere i go
also http://blog.laptopmag.com/tmobile-phones-longer-battery-life
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i'm not understanding this portion " the extra taxing and fees"
All carriers charge the same surcharges and taxes (variable only depending on state)
btw i was a former verizon corp employee and i made the switch once my employment ended, wouldn't look back as i would not be paying consumer pricing with verizon. I have not noticed a diff in service, if anything wifi calling makes things a lot better everywhere i go
also http://blog.laptopmag.com/tmobile-phones-longer-battery-life
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I sort of get where T-Mobile is coming from regarding not being able to tell me the Fed/State/Regulatory/911/ect.... fees since it is based on given state, however, it is clearly broken down on my current Verizon Wireless Bills at the end in two separate areas.
- In regards to this though, they (T-Mobile) did try to say something about they only charge tax on the actual plan rate and this differs from how Verizon Wireless charges the taxing, ect...
- Also, regarding the "Regulatory" fee part, it is like .68 cents on my Verizon bill, whereas ironically, this was the only part of the extra fees T-Mobile could confirm to me and they claim theirs comes out to $1.60 something.
Not the end of the world really as long as they pretty much match up the same. Just concerns when trying to tally up the actual expected bill to compare a bit and especially when I'm currently Unemployed.
Looking at my most recently bill right. T-Mobile charges me the following Miscellaneous fees,
Federal Universal Service Fund
Regulatory Programs Fee
State & Local Sales Tax
Sales Telecom Excise
County Telecom Excise
MCTD Surcharge
Public Safety Communication Surcharge
County 911
lazer9 said:
I sort of get where T-Mobile is coming from regarding not being able to tell me the Fed/State/Regulatory/911/ect.... fees since it is based on given state, however, it is clearly broken down on my current Verizon Wireless Bills at the end in two separate areas.
- In regards to this though, they (T-Mobile) did try to say something about they only charge tax on the actual plan rate and this differs from how Verizon Wireless charges the taxing, ect...
- Also, regarding the "Regulatory" fee part, it is like .68 cents on my Verizon bill, whereas ironically, this was the only part of the extra fees T-Mobile could confirm to me and they claim theirs comes out to $1.60 something.
Not the end of the world really as long as they pretty much match up the same. Just concerns when trying to tally up the actual expected bill to compare a bit and especially when I'm currently Unemployed.
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Looking at my most recently bill right. T-Mobile charges me the following Miscellaneous fees,
Federal Universal Service Fund
Regulatory Programs Fee
State & Local Sales Tax
Sales Telecom Excise
County Telecom Excise
MCTD Surcharge
Public Safety Communication Surcharge
County 911
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Odd. I guess maybe things differ per State charges.
Example off my latest Verizon bill:
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Verizon Wireless' Surcharges+
Fed Universal Service Charge 1.00
Regulatory Charge .18
Administrative Charge .95
PA Gross Receipt Surchg 2.39
Total: $4.52
Taxes, Governmental Surcharges and Fees+
PA State Wireless E911 Surchg 1.00
PA State Sales Tax 2.87
Total: $3.87