Anyone have experience running Chrome Remote Desktop from a Fire 7, latest model?
I'm using my original Nook Color rooted with CM 10.2.1 for a single purpose, sitting on a table next to the LR couch and running Chrome Remote Desktop to control an upstairs Windows desktop that is streaming SiriusXM music, playing to my AV system in the LR through a Bluetooth faux-headphone receiver. Remote Control allows me to skip music I don't like, to change XM stations, and to control other functions that would normally require me to walk upstairs to the desktop. It's a great setup and has been serving that purpose for several years, with one exception. The Nook Color is so short on resources that if anything else is going on in the device, the remote desktop session will fail. I have removed everything that I can, but with less than half a gig of memory and a single slow processor, it just isn't up to the task. Hence the question.
I understand, of course, that I would have to install Google Play to get remote desktop. I have also tried other old tablets and phones running other remote control apps such as Splashtop, TeamViewer, and others, some of which work OK, but I find that Chrome Remote Desktop is by far the best, and the little Nook (also 7 inch) is just the right size for this.
And, while I'm asking, I don't suppose the Fire 7 has IR capability, so I could potentially use it to control the various components in the AV system?
So before I invest the incredible sum of $50 in the Fire 7, I would like to make sure that this will work.
Thanks in advance, DaveD
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Anyone have experience running Chrome Remote Desktop from a Fire 7, latest model?
I'm using my original Nook Color rooted with CM 10.2.1 for a single purpose, sitting on a table next to the LR couch and running Chrome Remote Desktop to control an upstairs Windows desktop that is streaming SiriusXM music, playing to my AV system in the LR through a Bluetooth faux-headphone receiver. Remote Control allows me to skip music I don't like, to change XM stations, and to control other functions that would normally require me to walk upstairs to the desktop. It's a great setup and has been serving that purpose for several years, with one exception. The Nook Color is so short on resources that if anything else is going on in the device, the remote desktop session will fail. I have removed everything that I can, but with less than half a gig of memory and a single slow processor, it just isn't up to the task. Hence the question.
I understand, of course, that I would have to install Google Play to get remote desktop. I have also tried other old tablets and phones running other remote control apps such as Splashtop, TeamViewer, and others, some of which work OK, but I find that Chrome Remote Desktop is by far the best, and the little Nook (also 7 inch) is just the right size for this.
And, while I'm asking, I don't suppose the Fire 7 has IR capability, so I could potentially use it to control the various components in the AV system?
So before I invest the incredible sum of $50 in the Fire 7, I would like to make sure that this will work.
Thanks in advance, DaveD
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- No IR on any Fire tablet
- The implementation of Google Play Services available for this device may not support Chrome Remote Desktop
- You can not obtain root permissions or install a custom ROM on the shipping versions of 5th-7th gen Amazon devices; nor can they be downgraded. This may place significant limitations on customizing your setup...if it works at all.
- Consider a 3rd gen HDX if interested in unlocked 7 inch tablet with adequate resources and strong custom ROM support.
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- No IR on any Fire tablet
- The implementation of Google Play Services available for this device may not support Chrome Remote Desktop
- You can not obtain root permissions or install a custom ROM on the shipping versions of 5th-7th gen Amazon devices; nor can they be downgraded. This may place significant limitations on customizing your setup...if it works at all.
- Consider a 3rd gen HDX if interested in unlocked 7 inch tablet with adequate resources and strong custom ROM support.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
Stock rooting or a custom rom would not be options for me even if it were available. I'm at the point now where I want to run these Android devices, not work on them. A used HDX might be an option; thanks for that.
There are a number of entries here indicating that Google Play can be installed on the latest 5.4.0.0 and no mention of any limitations. Can you provide additional information on your statement?
Thanks, DaveD
DavidLD said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
Stock rooting or a custom rom would not be options for me even if it were available. I'm at the point now where I want to run these Android devices, not work on them. A used HDX might be an option; thanks for that.
There are a number of entries here indicating that Google Play can be installed on the latest 5.4.0.0 and no mention of any limitations. Can you provide additional information on your statement?
Thanks, DaveD
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Most only use "Google Play" for store access and snagging a few treasured apps. Your application is somewhat unique but many work fine...or not. My caveat was simply a heads-up. Best path IMHO is to acquire the device from Amazon which offers a nearly unconditional 30 day return return policy. They even subsidize return shipping in the US; $2.98 for most Amazon devices.
Also consider a HD 8 if you have no plans to root. A nicer device overall but more expensive and a bit larger; I happen to prefer the 7" form factor for my purposes.
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Most only use "Google Play" for store access and snagging a few treasured apps. Your application is somewhat unique but many work fine...or not. My caveat was simply a heads-up. Best path IMHO is to acquire the device from Amazon which offers a nearly unconditional 30 day return return policy. They even subsidize return shipping in the US; $2.98 for most Amazon devices.
Also consider a HD 8 if you have no plans to root. A nicer device overall but more expensive and a bit larger; I happen to prefer the 7" form factor for my purposes.
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I will try a 7". I'm an Amazon Prime member and have found their return policy to be more than adequate. I'll post my results in this thread. Thanks for the help.
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I will try a 7". I'm an Amazon Prime member and have found their return policy to be more than adequate. I'll post my results in this thread. Thanks for the help.
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Update: Ordered the Fire 7 yesterday evening from Amazon, Prime, received it before noon today, even quicker than their usual two day prime guarantee. And it was $39.99, $10 off, as they gave me a courtesy discount because they messed up an order last week. Can't beat that!
Using the instructions in the XDA link I referenced above, I installed Google Play in about an hour, with most of that time taken up with finger checks and learning how to get around the Fire, ads and all. Before I installed Google Play I had first installed Chrome Remote Desktop from a Titanium Backup on the Micro SDCard that was once attached to the Nook Color, but it wouldn't run without Google Play.
Once I installed Google Play it works like a charm. Whether or not it crashes like it does on the Nook (there, I suspect, because of limited resources) remains to be seen. But so far, so good.
Thanks again for the information. DaveD
DavidLD said:
Update: Ordered the Fire 7 yesterday evening from Amazon, Prime, received it before noon today, even quicker than their usual two day prime guarantee. And it was $39.99, $10 off, as they gave me a courtesy discount because they messed up an order last week. Can't beat that!
Using the instructions in the XDA link I referenced above, I installed Google Play in about an hour, with most of that time taken up with finger checks and learning how to get around the Fire, ads and all. Before I installed Google Play I had first installed Chrome Remote Desktop from a Titanium Backup on the Micro SDCard that was once attached to the Nook Color, but it wouldn't run without Google Play.
Once I installed Google Play it works like a charm. Whether or not it crashes like it does on the Nook (there, I suspect, because of limited resources) remains to be seen. But so far, so good.
Thanks again for the information. DaveD
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I ran Remote Desktop on my HD 8 for a bit when I first got it, with no problem. I use Unified Remote, because if I watch shows or movies, I usually just place them on the tablet, as VLC works perfectly and I have good headphones. I have used for years and continue to use Pandora Music. I just got a hold of another HD 7 (my original one has a busted display), but it's rooted and I really don't have intentions of using it for movies or music at the moment, but the Remote Desktop and Unified Remote seem to work just fine on it too.
If you've looked over any other threads, and 'uninstalled' anything, that helps on freeing up memory as a lot of Amazon's applications have the tendency to run almost constantly. As for CPU usage, in my opinion, I find it to be vastly underused for both models.
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Going to be setting up a HTPC pretty soon and was looking for remote control options. Considering I just want it to mainly be a HTPC remote, it would just need Wifi, a big screen, and Android, the NC does seem a strong contender at first glance.
XBMC with it's Android wifi-based remote app seems like a very nice solution, as well as some others, (as long as the apps work fine on the larger screen).
Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this, or alternate suggestions?
The Nook is a fantastic media remote. I've not tried the XBMC apps specifically yet, though they should work fine.
I've built a home theater & home automation setup around a Windows program called Girder, from Promixis. Girder offers a full web server with javascript hooks so you can create html pages and use any browser to control things.
I started with this, using Nokia 800 tablets as the controller. It worked great, but I wanted more responsiveness and features than browsers would easily let me achieve. Thankfully Girder has a nice web service interface, against which I've been writing a native Android app that acts sort of like a Philips Pronto universal remote, except with all the Android goodies like voice recognition, gestures, etc.
Regardless of the implementation details, the Nook is a solid media remote control when paired with a decent back-end. The battery life is fine if you don't mind keeping a plug nearby (I get just under a week with moderate remote usage and occasional browsing), the form-factor isn't too big, and the bundled capabilities of an armchair browsing/<insert Android app here> device are hard to beat.
My only wants that the Nook doesn't have would be a few more physical buttons (I already map the volume buttons to TV volume controls but would like channel and FF/Rewind/Play or D-Pad controls), vibrate feedback for button presses, and a less finicky plug, ideally a drop-and-charge dock of some kind.
HTH!
I'm an avid XBMC fan. Been running it for a good while now. I ordered a NookColor for the same reason you did OP. The XBMC app is great on my Android phone, and I've been talking with the dev who works on it, trying to come up with some improvements for when it's run on tablets. I'd definitely recommend using it if you've got XBMC running off a machine at your place.
Thanks for the responses. Think I'll end up getting one later on, once I get the rest of the setup going (who knows, they might be back in stock by then ).
I've had XBMC running on my home server as a test for a little while, with the app on my HD2 running Android. App hasn't been 100% stable, force closing here & there, but hard to tell if it's the app, or just some of the quirks found in running Android on HD2. I did notice battery life suffered quite a bit, but that was with heavy remote testing today. I'll have to see how that goes with more testing.
The Girder stuff looked interesting, except for it's price tag. I'm on a bit of a budget & still have to get HTPC specific hardware, and slightly redo the backend. XBMC on Ubuntu is free and quite acceptable, so that's what I'll stick with for now. I did like that the stock phone volume controls worked through XBMC to control it's playback volume.
I use my Nook for a remote on my Ubuntu HTPC box.. Using Boxee instead of XBMC though. The Boxee app works great.
I tried both the apps for xbmc in the market - they both work well.
My problem is I have freeze-ups with xbmx on win 64 computer; don't know if it is related to nook as controller yet.
XBMC is the way to go, no doubt.
The app works fine now, but since the screen is so much larger, there is room for scaling improvements throughout the app. Nothing is a deal breaker, though.
I love that you can send links to stream to XBMC
Another XMBC user here using the Nook as a remote. Also on my Ubuntu box I'm running Subsonic (/w the Android app) - makes a much better streaming music server.
The boxee app is what I use on my HTPC. Then I use the Cloud Boxee remote app on my nook. It works great!
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I have tried a few of the remote apps on the Market and I havent found anything yet that really fits.
Can anyone point to a tutorial on how to set up the XBMC/NC remote to work with a Win7 HTPC?
Still very new to the rooted NC world.
Many thanks!
sorry, found it shortly after I'd posted this
I installed both "the official" xbmc remote, and the other one that is rated well, but neither one is working. The official one asks that I set up Hosts in Settings, but the settings page it offers is blank. So there is no way to do what it is asking
The other one, keeps telling me to make sure XBMC is allowing control via HTTP in Network settings (which it is) My Nook is connected to my wlan, so it should be connecting
Unified Remote Control offers the most remotes I have seen in 1 program.
Really simple and handy.
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Unified Remote Control offers the most remotes I have seen in 1 program.
Really simple and handy.
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Do you know if it successfully works in XBMC?
I absolutely love the NookColor. Its got a great design and does way more than it was intended to, thanks to the android community and developers and ofcourse even Barnes&Noble for their official Froyo release.
However, I have had it for a couple of months now. Messed around heaps, tried all the roms and the novelty is running out and I just dont know what to use it for anymore. I never actually used it much apart from for trying out new roms.
The gadgets I find myself using most on a daily basis:
- For calling and texting, I use my HTC Buzz/Wildfire.
- Due to Android's poor music capabilities and the size of the NookColor, I still use my iPod touch for on the go music.
- And I still find myself using my laptop for internet and doing university work.
This is not meant to be a complain-session but I was just wondering what you guys find yourself using your NookColor/tablets mostly for? What makes you go back to using it on a daily basis?
Just trying to find some uses for rejuvenating my interest and actually using the NookColor more on a daily basis.
Do we really need to fill the "gap between the smartphones and laptops"? Does a gap even exist?
Reading a book, watching videos are the soul reason.
Yeah, a lot easier to carry CFD/fluid mechanics/thermodynamics books in pdf format than physical format Also, it's nice for hulu and messing w/android, but I know what you mean. Out of college idk what I'd use it for. Just something around the house to look up something real quick, or to play pewpew2
im a gradstudent and working professional. they both come in handy when you can do textbooks or reference books with the e-reader apps. also, i love my laptops but when im in bed... its a lot easier to use the tablet for web surfing and email than having a really hot laptop to carry.
my gf likes it to play sudoko on a larger screen than a cell phone.
I have 2 of them, one is more or less permanently in my bathroom including charger. It has replaced all the stacks of magazines that used to clutter the place up.
-Portable real internet (BBC News, Hulu, ESPN3, etc.)
-Games (especially emulators controlled with Wiimote)
-Google Maps with Bluetooth GPS
-Creating Word documents
-I use a calculator on it a lot
-Calendar and scheduling
-Facebook and networking
-Getting Amazon's free app a day
What app do you use to create word docs?
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What app do you use to create word docs?
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I use Quickoffice HD from the notion ink apps. There is also documents to go, and a few others...
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Portable real internet indeed - handy for recipes!!
NPR news app (much easier to read).
I tend to use my phone for music, but the NC is better with Winamp (my ipod touch is in the hands of my kid now).
Youtube videos for gaming (been using for Lost Odyssey on the 360 to find treasure I missed)
Gamefaqs
checking email
Facebook once in a while
A lot of this I can't stand to do on a phone...but works great on the NC.
Making router / firewall /etc changes or grabbing the network password when someone needs it - DD-WRT router - handy and saves booting up a computer to do it.
Bank application / paypal app to check balances.
I would say #1 would be ebooks - but I read mostly on my e-ink Nook.
Killing time on the couch while the kids are watching Dora or whatever.
The Nook Color is my prefered way to surf the web. I love that I can sit back on the couch and hold it like a book while surfing.
I also read books, watch movies and play games on it. The last few meetings I've had I've used it to take a few notes.
Since getting the Nook Color I've hardly touched my netbook, and since getting the netbook I've hardly touched my laptop. My desktop is a whole different animal, however.
I honastly see no benifit of using the ipod music player over the android one. Coverflow looks nice but takes forever to get anywhere. I suppose the music u might lik erl is nice but I never touched it
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This is not meant to be a complain-session but I was just wondering what you guys find yourself using your NookColor/tablets mostly for? What makes you go back to using it on a daily basis?
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For me, I use it probably 70% of the time to read books. My state library (NH) has an e-book program. I have 2 weeks with each book before it self-deletes, so this kind of forces me a little to use it more as an e-reader.
However, I like having it to surf the web quickly. It's also a great planner and to-do list manager (I use the Get Things Done method with Evernote). so I find it really useful for quickly jotting down notes and tasks.
the rest of my time is used watching tv shows that I always said I wanted to watch but never had the motivation to go find them (Breaking Bad and Sunny in Philadelphia being the two I'm watching now).
Could I do this all on a laptop? probably, but I find this size tablet to be much more ergonomically friendly for when I want to use electronic media (bed... at the breakfast table... on a plane).
There's no shame in not finding a use between phone and laptop for another device. If the nook or tablets aren't for you... don't worry about it. the good thing is you can probably sell your nook for about what you bought it for. experiment over.
I got to read the news and magazines. I watch alot of movies on it. Use it every day while my wife jogs.
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I wan to keep on topic but this is a noob question. Those that are using google maps with Bluetooth GPS. What is the GPS for? Meaning are you actually using it in your car kind of like a Garmin? I'm assuming google maps can be used without the GPS part to simply scroll around the maps.
Also is there any way to use a Bluetooth headset to make Skype calls?
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I use Quickoffice HD from the notion ink apps. There is also documents to go, and a few others...
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Do you find selecting text to be difficult? About 90% of the time I can't get that little slider to slide.
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I wan to keep on topic but this is a noob question. Those that are using google maps with Bluetooth GPS. What is the GPS for? Meaning are you actually using it in your car kind of like a Garmin?
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Yep. It is fun to have such a large GPS in the car.
I use mine mostly for:
1) Browsing ...
2) Email / FacebookMail
3) Gaming (but am a bit frustrated with the lack of scaling in a lot of games)
4) Getting a license to each daily Amazon free app (I could use my phone, but don't, since I don't mind cluttering up my Nook) ... never know when I might go back and actually use one of them.
I find it most useful in the car/airplane but also just as a capable carry-along device with decent screen.
I have a Samsung Captivate (which I do use more for music) ... but when able I definitely use my Nook over it for things like browsing and email. I also have a very nice ultra-portable Win7 notebook (HP 2710p) ... which when my Nook is charged I basically never use unless I need to do something over my work's VPN.
The more I use my Nook, well, the more I use my Nook. I use it enough I'm just about convinced to plunk down more $ for a "real" tablet (camera, WiFi, GPS) later this year when the 3rd gen tablets start hitting the market.
The only thing I wish for is something like the iPad case with built-in keyboard, as I would like better typing.
When home, like I am now, I still use my desktop PC almost all the time and don't see it changing. But otherwise I'm surprisingly happy to pull out my Nook.
PS. One thing that got me using the Nook MUCH MUCH more was this case (I modded mine with a leather punch to open up holes behind the speaker ... if you do this just do a circlular pattern in the center as you'll start hitting magnet/metal out to the far left/right of the speaker area). It works great in easel mode both for in-lap use as well as a VERY convenient way to rest it over my hands when holding it up.
i got it because i wanted an e-reader...the fact that it's also a tablet is just an extra perk...that being said, the only thing i really use it for in that capacity is e-mail and light web surfing...but i think it will come in especially handy when traveling and i won't have to pack several books or laptop just for i-net access
75% reading books
10% news+email
5% few games
5% youtube+IMDB movie trailers
5% other tasks
I don't have an Android phone (still working on my previous generation of 'feature phone'), mostly because I can't use one during most of the waking hours.
So the nook suffices as an android surrogate. What's it do? Probably every thing you do on a phone, but on a bigger screen and only in the confines of my wifi bubble at home.
Because I dual boot between an android OS and the nook stock experience, I spend about 50/50 in each. When I'm in nook mode, it's to read. When I'm in AndroidOS mode, it's to get real time information (weather, news, calendar/agenda, etc).
I see that the mini has HDMI, two USB and an Ethernet port.
1. Can I plug a 23 inch monitor into that HDMI port and will it be full screen?
2. Also, I have an external 1.5 TB hard drive that had its own power source, can I use that with the mini?
I have an aging HP tower computer that I'm looking to replace. I know that there mini isn't as powerful as a desk computer; I won't be able to compile a ROM for my Nexus 5X, or ruin the latest desktop game. I'm just looking for a system that can run some general office apps, such as I can get from the Play Store, and access the web. I have Amazon Prime so I do stream movies and TV shows.
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1. Yes
2. Yes, but installing apps on it is possible only with root
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2. Yes, but installing apps on it is possible only with root
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Thank you. But, what do you mean it's only possible if we have root? I did read in another thread that the latest version took out the Play Store, but that it was still possible to install the Google Play Services. As far as Amazon you can just download the Underground app via the web.
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Yes to both. Amazon Video must be downloaded thru the browser thou.
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Google play store can be download thru the Remix Central app
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I see that the mini has HDMI, two USB and an Ethernet port.
1. Can I plug a 23 inch monitor into that HDMI port and will it be full screen? .
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Definitely. I have a 42 in tv connected to mine. Pretty good setup wizard for adjusting screen, scaling, but mine was good out of the box.
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2. Also, I have an external 1.5 TB hard drive that had its own power source, can I use that with the mini?.
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Definitely, plus there is a micro SD slot. My external doesn't auto power so I just turn it on when I use it, no fault to the Mini. According to your stated use as a streaming machine, Kodi is very good on the Mini (using Jarvis from Play Store (and the Google Play Store app is loadable from installed app with latest updates; something about Google asking them to remove it stock since Jide weren't doing much to optimize apps but most tend to work anyway) and it came stock on original OS).
So while I have an external drive connected, between Kodi, the 16GB drive on board, the SD card, USB for thumb drive (the other has an air mouse/keyboard dongle), I don't use the external drive at all. Docs and pics best on Google drive anyway and there's an app for that.
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I have an aging HP tower computer that I'm looking to replace. I know that there mini isn't as powerful as a desk computer;.
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Exactly why I got one! Much lower power use, quiet and small.
I still use a tower as my daily because I'm used to it and have a good setup with multiple screens and a desk and don't want to sit on the couch and use a small wireless keyboard mouse for docs and web search, but no reason not to move this to a desk when not using on TV, it's small and portable.
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I won't be able to compile a ROM for my Nexus 5X, or ruin the latest desktop game. I'm just looking for a system that can run some general office apps, such as I can get from the Play Store, and access the web. I have Amazon Prime so I do stream movies and TV shows.
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Is there an Android app for compiling? Yes! Then you can probably do it.
Drawbacks: an occasional black screen flicker of a couple seconds; the IR sensor hasn't been developed and it picks up signals from other remotes and does weird things (Vizio remote volume down will make Kodi on Mini run video backwards; soundbar remote makes Mini go into power down mode that can't be cancelled); support troubleshooting is non-existent (if someone replies they'll ask dozens of questions, keep asking for more info, ask for a video of problem, yada yada, but no answers) check out the Jide Support pages and you'll see what I'm talking about.
This link makes it $49.99 and I wouldn't spend more than that on it. https://shop.jide.com/en/detail?pid=10&fcode=IB13MTTJLBTZTWOZZPYO
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Definitely. I have a 42 in tv connected to mine. Pretty good setup wizard for adjusting screen, scaling, but mine was good out of the box.
Definitely, plus there is a micro SD slot. My external doesn't auto power so I just turn it on when I use it, no fault to the Mini. According to your stated use as a streaming machine, Kodi is very good on the Mini (using Jarvis from Play Store (and the Google Play Store app is loadable from installed app with latest updates; something about Google asking them to remove it stock since Jide weren't doing much to optimize apps but most tend to work anyway) and it came stock on original OS).
So while I have an external drive connected, between Kodi, the 16GB drive on board, the SD card, USB for thumb drive (the other has an air mouse/keyboard dongle), I don't use the external drive at all. Docs and pics best on Google drive anyway and there's an app for that.
Exactly why I got one! Much lower power use, quiet and small.
I still use a tower as my daily because I'm used to it and have a good setup with multiple screens and a desk and don't want to sit on the couch and use a small wireless keyboard mouse for docs and web search, but no reason not to move this to a desk when not using on TV, it's small and portable.
Is there an Android app for compiling? Yes! Then you can probably do it.
Drawbacks: an occasional black screen flicker of a couple seconds; the IR sensor hasn't been developed and it picks up signals from other remotes and does weird things (Vizio remote volume down will make Kodi on Mini run video backwards; soundbar remote makes Mini go into power down mode that can't be cancelled); support troubleshooting is non-existent (if someone replies they'll ask dozens of questions, keep asking for more info, ask for a video of problem, yada yada, but no answers) check out the Jide Support pages and you'll see what I'm talking about.
This link makes it $49.99 and I wouldn't spend more than that on it. https://shop.jide.com/en/detail?pid=10&fcode=IB13MTTJLBTZTWOZZPYO
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Thank you for all the great info. I've been seeing you, and others talk about Jodi; what is that?
Edit: I just answered my own question and looked it up. So, can't I just download the Amazon Underground app from the web, log in with my Prime login details and then download the Amazon video app?
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Nope got sideload. http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/amazon...azon-video-3-0-73-11301-android-apk-download/
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Thank you for all the great info. I've been seeing you, and others talk about Jodi; what is that?
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Yeah, know you mean Kodi.
If you don't know...you be missin' out big!!!
Basically it's more than you can imagine media wise, streamed to most devices (streamed so no P2P downloading, saving and waiting on big files, abuse letters from ISP, none of that). When new to it install on whatever device and then start with a simple addon like Exodus, not a whole special build as that is confusing for the newcomer (blew my mind, too many choices, confusion). That will stream tons of tv shows, movies, sports, etc. Then there are specialized addons for music, concerts, racing, anime, old movies and tv, etc. Initial set up may look complicated but just follow instructions from one of the thousand web pages and/or youtube videos. Even my wife can handle it all once we cut the cable tv cord, and she much prefers it.
Basically it's freakin' amazing and after a decades of paying and it going to $150 a month to watch a couple shows, baseball and formula 1, I feel we've paid our dues (I'd guess $25,000). Still pay $30 a year for the MLB app, and of course the internet bill.
Yeah, that's what I get for sending before I double checked that spell checker didn't change anything. Stupid autocorrect.
Thanks again for all the great info.
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I am definitely newer to this, scoured the site and everything regarding miracast is pretty old. Looking to cast to a fire stick 1st gen, or Xbox one. Please helpĀ”
I have never been able to get it to work on the HD+, either. It works OK on my LG devices (running stock firmware).
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I am definitely newer to this, scoured the site and everything regarding miracast is pretty old. Looking to cast to a fire stick 1st gen, or Xbox one. Please helpĀ”
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I am running lnos_ovation-ota-NMF26Q.170104 on my HD+ and can mirror the Nook screen (audio+video) to my Chromecast using the "Cast" button in Quick Settings (note that the "Cast" button is not included by default and needs to be added by editing the Quick Settings).
With some apps like Netflix and YouTube I can choose between the Chromecast or directly to the Panasonic TV ("Viera 60"). With native casting and some other apps like NBC Media the only choice is Chromecast.
digixmax said:
I am running lnos_ovation-ota-NMF26Q.170104 on my HD+ and can mirror the Nook screen (audio+video) to my Chromecast using the "Cast" button in Quick Settings (note that the "Cast" button is not included by default and needs to be added by editing the Quick Settings).
With some apps like Netflix and YouTube I can choose between the Chromecast or directly to the Panasonic TV ("Viera 60"). With native casting and some other apps like NBC Media the only choice is Chromecast.
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OK, thank you, I'll have to check out the chromecast. Thought I'd be doing myself a favor with my kindle and fire stick for mirroring, but that's been a pain in the ass and they are made by the same company. Very Moody. Then I got handed this nook HD+ and like it, hated the b&n os, but that was easily remedied.
Now, when I try to mirror\cast, its like the nook doesn't even try to scan for devices, its like "piss on it, I'm not even going to look", so is that normal? sans the Chromecast \app allowed mirroring...
Thank you guys for your help guys
Sharon Peters said:
OK, thank you, I'll have to check out the chromecast. Thought I'd be doing myself a favor with my kindle and fire stick for mirroring, but that's been a pain in the ass and they are made by the same company. Very Moody. Then I got handed this nook HD+ and like it, hated the b&n os, but that was easily remedied.
Now, when I try to mirror\cast, its like the nook doesn't even try to scan for devices, its like "piss on it, I'm not even going to look", so is that normal? sans the Chromecast \app allowed mirroring...
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Here is a brief description of various competing casting "standards": http://www.howtogeek.com/177145/wir...ed-airplay-miracast-widi-chromecast-and-dlna/ -- it helps explain why certain combinations of source/sink don't mix.
Hello everybody.
For some time now I have the new Chromecast with Google TV and I would like to share my feelings on certain aspects that disappointed me and which scare me for the future of Android TV.
Android TV has always been a more closed system than Android but I have the impression with this new device that it is even more the case and that Google is trying to lock its system even more.
On the new device, if you want to install applications that are not on the play store, you must activate the options for developers, then start again several times to install these applications (it does not necessarily work the first time ).
I also noticed that a lot of Android apps didn't do image rotation or stretching and displayed vertically like a smartphone but with parts of the image cut off. Some Android apps are therefore not even usable now on the new Chromecast. I searched this new Chromecast for a setting that would help me display its Android apps properly but couldn't find anything.
Is there a setting to properly display its applications there? Are these only corrections that will be made in the next updates or is it, as I think, a desire by Google to limit Android TV more and more to Android TV applications?
Thank you for your many responses.
The orientation issue may have something to do with how the Android TV device is identifying itself. That could get fixed in a new release. Haven't dug in enough to know that yet. I haven't had any trouble installing stuff via side loading.
As for being locked down, Android TV certified devices are way more locked down than AOSP or even phones. I wish they'd put the Android TV portions (or even just the casting stack) into AOSP, but that ship has long sailed.
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The orientation issue may have something to do with how the Android TV device is identifying itself. That could get fixed in a new release. Haven't dug in enough to know that yet. I haven't had any trouble installing stuff via side loading.
As for being locked down, Android TV certified devices are way more locked down than AOSP or even phones. I wish they'd put the Android TV portions (or even just the casting stack) into AOSP, but that ship has long sailed.
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ok so you had no problem with Android applications. I may have had no luck with apps that started badly. Perhaps it is not Google's desire to prevent or complicate the use of applications that are not from the Android TV Play Store.
We will see if other users have this problem.
I too would have loved to have the cast on Android box.
Do you know of an application that allows you to rotate the image like you can find in the Ugoos box system?
From what I can tell, it is just as open** as my Nvidia Shield. Installing sideloaded apps is just as simple. Apps that do not have manual rotation options can be tricky, or those coded to be used in portrait mode only. Other than that, sideloading works identically. PS, you still need something like Sideload Launcher to launch these sideloaded apps.
Android TV/Google TV has always been very limited when it comes to customizability. Probably has a lot to do with the fact that Google assumed, and rightly so that, most consumers just want to plug it in and watch stuff, not mess around with it. Do I agree with that? No, I love making devices do things they weren't designed to, but even I have no reason or motivation to root these devices.
** = Equally as locked down.
Have you tried using a sceen rotation app? I use to use a modded spectrum tv app on fire tv and to fix rotation issue you had to use a screen rotation app.
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Android TV has always been a more closed system than Android but I have the impression with this new device that it is even more the case and that Google is trying to lock its system even more.
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I feel your pain.
That's Google 2020 for you, get ready for Google 2021 and 2022
I am thinking of replacing a fire tv stick 4k with the new Chromecast, hoping to gain bitstreaming audio from 3d party apps. It won't work for me on the amazon device.
I want to continue using wolf launcher and some sideloaded apps, which are not all available on the play store.
How much of free storage is available on the Cromecast?
Hey folks
I bought a Chromecast with Google TV and I am experiencing this same issue. I am trying to use an app which I know it wasn't developed for this device, but I know it works because have it installed on an Android TV. The difference is that on Google TV it opens as portrait and sits in the middle of the screen, where in the Android TV it expands and takes the whole screen. Same thing happens, for example, with Instagram. I've tried a dozen of apps that supposedly force the orientation, but it never worked.
Is there anything that can be done or am I am chasing ghosts?
(p.s. is it worth to post this as a new thread?)