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The worst thing about this phone other than only 16GB is the on screen buttons :\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vha62lcGSgs
I mean seriously watching this video the buttons don't even vanish when you're in an app. I mean seriously how did Google think this was a good idea? Means you just hit them all the time or you have to be really careful where you touch and they don't change to which way you hold the phone.
How hard is it to A. Use that massive bottom part of the Bezel with Hardware buttons or B. Have some kind of gesture to hide them? I don't care if there is some rooted app out there, it needs to be standard, I just don't get how Google have overlooked this. People keep making a case that software buttons are better because you can change them....... have they ever changed? They've been the same standard design since I started using Android and whocares if they change in the future? I'm using my GS2 and the buttons work fine, just because they look different doesn't mean they have less functionality.

this may come off as I'm defending the Nexus 4 mindlessly but I'm not a huge fan of touch screen gaming. The whole reason I got the Evo Shift instead of a higher end phone was for the keyboard so I could play my games the way I like. I actually just bought a PS3 controller for my phone but I have to wait until Sixaxis Controller updates for 4.2. Though of course it doesn't work with most app store games, but I don't really enjoy playing those anyways

Venekor said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vha62lcGSgs
I mean seriously watching this video the buttons don't even vanish when you're in an app. I mean seriously how did Google think this was a good idea? Means you just hit them all the time or you have to be really careful where you touch and they don't change to which way you hold the phone.
How hard is it to A. Use that massive bottom part of the Bezel with Hardware buttons or B. Have some kind of gesture to hide them? I don't care if there is some rooted app out there, it needs to be standard, I just don't get how Google have overlooked this. People keep making a case that software buttons are better because you can change them....... have they ever changed? They've been the same standard design since I started using Android and whocares if they change in the future? I'm using my GS2 and the buttons work fine, just because they look different doesn't mean they have less functionality.
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This is not a Google problem, this is an ap developer problem. They can design the game to function like you want but they choose not to. Blame them, not Google.
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The whole point is to create the "physical button feeling" yet have them flexible for different apps. I think its a great idea! Physical buttons are annoying and are locked into doing only one function. Getting rid of the navigation buttons is like telling apple to get rid of the app dock at the bottom of their phone..... that's the way it was designed for the majority of users. If you don't like it then find a way to change it....you can its Android.

Dude chill... the software buttons are just another method like capacitive touch buttons..just incorporated into the screen. jus look at the specs of the nexus 4 as it has a 4.5 inch screen... if u cant live with that and want a bigger screen then fine move on and get the one x+ or something that has 4.7 inch screen plus capacitive touch buttons.unless you want THEM to disappear in an app too...

If we are going to complain about button placement can we not start with developers persistence with placing menu buttons at the top of most apps! They either have long fingers or small phones. I found this annoying on my SGS1 and very annoying on my Note 2, for obvious reasons. IMO Boat Browser is one of the few browsers that have placed the menu and navigation buttons in a sensible place.

I'm actually a big fan of the software buttons. This is one of the reasons I changed from the OneX to the Nexus4.
There are so many more interface possibilities with the software buttons, and as mentioned earlier the software devs need to make their apps more aware of their presence.

I haven't had to used on screen buttons with my gnex for about 10 months now and same with my Nexus 7 since I got it. There's a way to remove the on screen buttons by modding the res-framework apk. It's as simple as finding the option and and changing it then recompiling the new apk and pushing it to your phone.
Not sure if it's still this simple since I haven't had to do it for a while now that there are a few roms with the option to remove the Nav buttons. I would try if I had the Nexus 4 but that might not be for an while now.
I'm sure this feature will be included in nexus 4 roms too just be patience. I'm the meantime you can check out LMT, its a nav button alternative that uses pie menu that disappears when not in use.

If done right, the on-screen buttons are actually great.
If there are no dedicated buttons. they could either make the screen bigger, or remove the bezel on the bottom of the device, making it significantly smaller.
Also, there needs to be an option to hide them manually whenever you want, whether the application supports hiding the buttons or not. I know that there are such features in CM10 and other custom ROMs, but this needs to be a default feature on any device with on-screen buttons.

I like the buttons and they are not visible when viewing full screen video. That to me is when I care most about the screen space.
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I love the buttons. Looks so much better than actual hardware buttons.
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A lot of us like the onscreen buttons. If you don't, get another phone. Most don't have them. Those of us that like onscreen buttons have like 2 options, you have 100000. If Google puts capacitive buttons on the next Nexus because of whiners like you, I'm gonna be really upset.

I would have preferred hard buttons and a full 4.7 screen. Similar to the One X. There are only 3 phones with on screen buttons. Most game devs are gone make thier games for the biggest market which is hard button phones.
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seamus5 said:
I'm actually a big fan of the software buttons. This is one of the reasons I changed from the OneX to the Nexus4.
There are so many more interface possibilities with the software buttons, and as mentioned earlier the software devs need to make their apps more aware of their presence.
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So am I. It makes navigating through the system easier and a lot smoother. Just like the multitasking icon, you don't have to press and hold like in the galaxy s phones for example. Also OP, the software keys disappear when you watch a vid, YouTube etc.... And you mentioned that they should use the bottom bezel, well that's where the notification light is.
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NardVa said:
There are only 3 phones with on screen buttons.
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Nope. There's lots. The two Nexus, all the new Motos, Sony have started using them (Xperia T), Asus Padfone uses them too.

I hate people like op. If you know that this device has on screen buttons - and you should know this by now because there was galaxy nexus with same buttons- why the fcuk did you buy it in the first place? The whole spec sheet is there, all the info about the phone is written down... I knew it has glass back I knew it has non removable battery or no SD card or friggin buttons. Don't complain if you know what you're buying
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MattSkeet said:
I hate people like op. If you know that this device has on screen buttons - and you should know this by now because there was galaxy nexus with same buttons- why the fcuk did you buy it in the first place? The whole spec sheet is there, all the info about the phone is written down... I knew it has glass back I knew it has non removable battery or no SD card or friggin buttons. Don't complain if you know what you're buying
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The worst thing about this phone is its ability to attract users like the OP who don't bother to look at what they are getting and then to come in here on XDA and create the most ridiculous threads. I hate that about this phone. Anyone know a fix?
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At first I thought it would bother me coming from a Gs2 Skyrocket but really it looks so much better. It does make it so much easier to navigate and if you don't like em we have all the best devs migrating to the N4 so I'm sure we will have many different setup options soon. I'm loving the stock right now though buttery smooth.
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I change my buttons all the time. Google may not, but I like my menu and search button. I much prefer on screen buttons.
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Just got my Nexus 4, Not so sure about it

So got my Nexus 4 16GB during the week, its my first ever Nexus phone however have had a variety of Android phones from the HTC Desire right up to Galaxy S2, have to say I am not 100% sold on the Nexus.
I used to think skins where unnecessary but since getting the Nexus I have come to realise how much more user friendly they make things, simple things like pulling down the notification bar to put in aeroplane mode, orientation screen lock etc, or perhaps battery percentage up beside the battery?
My battery also seems to drain very fast, and I am not using the phone any differently than I did my galaxy S2, auto sync turned of and all the rest.
The camera while being 8mp acts like 5mp at best for some reason, Its not a patch on my SGS2, Ok I only take photos for instagram etc and its fine for that.
When you got your N4 did you instantly fall in love or did it take a while to grow on you? I'm not convinced yet.

But skins are so incredibly ugly and IMO they don't make the phone that much more user friendly (definitely not enough to justify their appearance and sluggishness). TouchWiz on the GS4 still looks like it's meant to run on Gingerbread and it causes random lag where no modern phone should have any trouble.
The quick settings in the notification bar are there, and I think it's just as good an implementation on stock because you can see more of your notifications at any one time. In TouchWiz they take up about half of the notification tray with quick settings, in stock a two fingered swipe or a tap in the top right corner will take you to them. You can edit them and make them easier to get to using a custom ROM, and while you may argue that you shouldn't have to do that it's ludicrously straightforward on a Nexus device.
A custom kernel should also fix your battery drain. I'm getting through a day without any issues and I'm perfectly happy with that. Currently my phone has had 1 day 1 hour of usage with 1 hr 30 minutes screen on time and 45% battery left. Note that the screen was on full brightness during this and Wifi and auto sync were left on.
When you say it acts like 5MP do you mean that the quality is crap or that it's literally taking photos at a 5MP size? If it's the first then that's true and there's really nothing that can be done. If it's the latter then open the camera, press anywhere on the screen to bring up the circle control, go to the settings option (the one that looks like a bunch of sliders) and change the picture size to 8MP.
Personally, I loved my N4 from the moment I got it. After calibration the screen was just about the best I'd seen (and I flashed it straight away, only used stock for a minute or two), it was the smoothest Android experience I had ever had and (unlike my HD2) everything just worked flawlessly for me.

Best phone I ever owned.
Flash a rom + kernel to get the features you're missing. If no likey, return and purchase other phone.
Tip: don't continue with praising skins of HTC or Samsung instead of aosp. Will only get you flamed..

Sounds about right. The best feature is being bland and featureless with the greatest potential to be customized. You are just at the most basic, boring, least impressive starting point. The rest is kind of up to you. Just my opinion.
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dweekie said:
Sounds about right. The best feature is being bland and featureless with the greatest potential to be customized. You are just at the most basic, boring, least impressive starting point. The rest is kind of up to you. Just my opinion.
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I'd take this supposed 'blandness' any day over slow, sluggish and ugly OEM skins.

There are many things on this phone that make it great, such as the screen, silky smoothness and more. But first thing out of the box I was a bit disappointed as well because it has no battery percentage. It annoyed me because I can't tell how much battery life I have left unless I download a widget or pull down the bar. But, I ended up flashing the percentage mod, then flashing kernel, then a rom. Now I can't look back. Battery life got better, colors on my screen got even better and best of all I got a percentage on my battery.
If you compare the battery to something like GS3, this is better, so you might just have to let the phone settle in.

slugger09 said:
So got my Nexus 4 16GB during the week, its my first ever Nexus phone however have had a variety of Android phones from the HTC Desire right up to Galaxy S2, have to say I am not 100% sold on the Nexus.
I used to think skins where unnecessary but since getting the Nexus I have come to realise how much more user friendly they make things, simple things like pulling down the notification bar to put in aeroplane mode, orientation screen lock etc, or perhaps battery percentage up beside the battery?
My battery also seems to drain very fast, and I am not using the phone any differently than I did my galaxy S2, auto sync turned of and all the rest.
The camera while being 8mp acts like 5mp at best for some reason, Its not a patch on my SGS2, Ok I only take photos for instagram etc and its fine for that.
When you got your N4 did you instantly fall in love or did it take a while to grow on you? I'm not convinced yet.
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Skins like Sense and TW only bloat the system. You will get use to the pure experience pretty quick and then you will grow to hate skins
I have always carried my devices naked (the device not me) and don't have any issues with the Nexus naked. It's a bit slippery but you will adjust to that quickly and hold the device a bit tighter.
The battery starts off horrid! It really takes several drain and recharge cycles for the battery to get up to par. Mine makes it through the day just fine now.
Mega pixels don't really mean much if you are not developing poster sized photos. Try using HDR mode and see if you like the photos better.
My .02

Did you not even do any research before getting this phone?? This is vanilla android and most people get this phone for that reason. If you are used to some added skins like Thouchwhiz, Sense, or Motoblur and like that, you should have stuck with one of those phones. Otherwise, root the phone and get to modding and theming or install a cost rom that is feature rich.

slugger09 said:
So got my Nexus 4 16GB during the week, its my first ever Nexus phone however have had a variety of Android phones from the HTC Desire right up to Galaxy S2, have to say I am not 100% sold on the Nexus.
I used to think skins where unnecessary but since getting the Nexus I have come to realise how much more user friendly they make things, simple things like pulling down the notification bar to put in aeroplane mode, orientation screen lock etc, or perhaps battery percentage up beside the battery?
My battery also seems to drain very fast, and I am not using the phone any differently than I did my galaxy S2, auto sync turned of and all the rest.
The camera while being 8mp acts like 5mp at best for some reason, Its not a patch on my SGS2, Ok I only take photos for instagram etc and its fine for that.
When you got your N4 did you instantly fall in love or did it take a while to grow on you? I'm not convinced yet.
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Hi!
1. The airplane mode is there. Just swipe down the notification bar with TWO fingers. Then you get lots of toggle-settings including the airplane mode. The orientation screen lock is not there though. HOWEVER; installing custom ROMs will most likely ADD many more features in the toggles area (like orientation) and so forth.
2. For battery drain, try flashing a custom kernel, such as Franco.Kernel. Not only does it improve battery, but you may calibrate your screen (his app includes a preset for lovely colors + deep blacks), and much more. If you want you can undervolt/overclock as well. Note that you can have a custom kernel while still keeping the STOCK rom installed (default andoird 4.2.2 for example).
I personally enjoy stock android (so I haven't installed a ROM), but i felt francos kernel REALLY improved the device. The battery is improved (doesnt drain as much, nor does the phone heat up as much as before). Also the colors of the screen turned really wonderful aftering being calibrated to 2.2gamma.
Basicly, if you are unhappy, look into some ROMs and kernels. You can find almost anything you want :good:

Different strokes, different folks.. OP gave it a shot and gave an honest, un-smug opinion... It is what it is. Some people just like the gloss on top.. Nothing wrong with that.

slugger09 said:
So got my Nexus 4 16GB during the week, its my first ever Nexus phone however have had a variety of Android phones from the HTC Desire right up to Galaxy S2, have to say I am not 100% sold on the Nexus.
I used to think skins where unnecessary but since getting the Nexus I have come to realise how much more user friendly they make things, simple things like pulling down the notification bar to put in aeroplane mode, orientation screen lock etc, or perhaps battery percentage up beside the battery?
My battery also seems to drain very fast, and I am not using the phone any differently than I did my galaxy S2, auto sync turned of and all the rest.
The camera while being 8mp acts like 5mp at best for some reason, Its not a patch on my SGS2, Ok I only take photos for instagram etc and its fine for that.
When you got your N4 did you instantly fall in love or did it take a while to grow on you? I'm not convinced yet.
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Instant love with the N4. Sold it away after a couple of months, went around owning other phones like the iPhone 5, Note 2, GS3, Xperia ZL. Have now come back to the N4. But then again, I knew what I was getting into coz I had the GNex before this.
The point of stock android, is not that it offers features other skins dont. What makes it attractive is that it offers a solid, no BS foundation to which you can add tweaks and functionality suited individually to YOU. You say you want Airplane mode in quick settings, maybe battery percentage next to the battery? Guess what there is a tweak for that and much more. But what happens when you are on TW and you dont want to look like an idiot waving you hands all over the screen in public? Sure you can disable that, but it doesnt mean its gone. Still cramping the software and taking up space. Again, this is just an example. As for battery drain, try kernels like Franco or Trinity. Install BBS and cull out the rogue apps.
You said its your first nexus. Stick around, read and you'll find out what a great piece of hardware this is in perfect sync with the software.

Definitely the best android phone I've owned, coming from a one x and one s and those were great devices as well. Only problem I see is the battery..I leave school with about 10-30% usually around 3 but other than that I love this phone
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styckx said:
Different strokes, different folks.. OP gave it a shot and gave an honest, un-smug opinion... It is what it is. Some people just like the gloss on top.. Nothing wrong with that.
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Agreed. Btw if anyone thought my posts were meant to be insulting or rude they weren't, they're just my opinions on OEM skins.

OP should check out the Power Toggles app on the Play Store for notification bar toggles, works just like Sense type toggles with customizability.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc&hl=en

Yes I think it just needs a few tweaks here and there, not going to the extent of a custom ROM just a kernel etc, first need to work out how to unlock the bootloader and root

Nigeldg said:
Agreed. Btw if anyone thought my posts were meant to be insulting or rude they weren't, they're just my opinions on OEM skins.
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Nah not at all. I posted my thoughts without even reading the rest of the replies. I'm just so used to people taking a licking for daring to not like a Nexus I just assumed maybe OP got a little heat. Apparently it was rather civil.. :good: :laugh::victory:

I love mine, came from a phone with htc sense, and sense was one of the things that killed "skins" for me. That being said yeah there's pluses and minuses to both. Stock Android is just as capable but your going to have to dig and get some apps from the market to get all the features oems put in their skins. I prefer it that way, I can pretty much make my phone perfect to me. I really feel like with an oem skin you don't get the full customizing experience, and that's why I like raw android. However it's not for everyone. Different strokes for different folks
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Phones should come with a 24 hour buyers remorse warranty. Just return it if you're not satisfied. Though, if you're willing to follow the rabbit down the rabbit hole, I'm sure you'll be in awe on how much you can do with Android, let alone the Nexus 4.

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Yes I think it just needs a few tweaks here and there, not going to the extent of a custom ROM just a kernel etc, first need to work out how to unlock the bootloader and root
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if u really want to unlock the bootloader, you should do it right away, and before actually using the phone, because unlocking it would erase all your personal data (like a phone reset). or you can back up ur phone.
rooting is super easy. 1st, install custom recovery, 2nd, flash supersu zip, and done.

I really love mine, picked it up over a month ago. I thought LTE would be my major gripe but my carrier supports the N4's DC-HSPA radio so in most areas I can get up to 22-23 mbps download speeds where the S3 was getting around 30 on LTE in the same areas (although much better upload speeds). I'm pretty happy with that considering my older HSPA phone was only getting 6-7 max.
I was strongly considering also owning an LTE phone too since I still haven't used my upgrade yet, but I've played with both the One and the S4 and I simply disliked the button layouts of both phones. I'm going to hold off until one of the OEM's releases a flagship that stays closer to the standard layout. The new Xperia phones do, but they're using basically the same hardware as the Nexus 4 anyway which would basically be a sidegrade+LTE and not a significant upgrade. Looks like my final hopes for owning two phones is going to rest with Motorola or Nexus 5 now. I'm very satisfied with this for now though.

What device did you upgrade from and how's your experience with the Note 4?

Tell us if the Note 4 is all you thought it would be?

Like I said before, these are all from within a year lol.... I switched from an iphone last November 2013
First was a Xperia Z1 (battery life was eh), Galaxy S4, HTC One M7, Galaxy S5 (only thing I miss is water resistance), LG G3 (love this phone but screen was not that great and very dim in the daytime) and now to my love of my life note 4! BEAUTIFUL! only thing I don't like is no option for soft keys (menu key has LAG and I don't like the Back button on the right side.

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Tell us if the Note 4 is all you thought it would be?
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Note 3 and the experience is horrible. My 4g lte isnt working but that's not for everyone's note 4 just some
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Galaxy S4. Experience has been underwhelming. Wonky GPS (loses the signal if phone is resting on my leg in the car), some apps occasionally think there is no wifi connection when there is (and being used by other apps). Aesthetically, it's a bit boxy for my taste. ART runtime isn't ready for actual use (causes the system to "update" 66 apps when I boot, extending boot time to about 5 mins, every time).

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Tell us if the Note 4 is all you thought it would be?
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I came from a Galaxy S3 and so far I'm really loving my new device. I was really close to getting the S5 but a few days/weeks after the S5 announcement, I started to read about the Note 4. It was a loooong wait but well worth it. The screen is amazing and just the size alone will make surfing the web and watching videos a lot more enjoyable.
I've played with the S-Pen and really enjoy it, which brings me to my question. I can't seem to figure out how to use the s-pen like a mouse when selecting text. I know there is an slightly different method using Air Command for this type of thing but I'm looking for the mouse-like text selecting. I thought that all I had to do was hold the button on the s-pen then drag and slide to select but it's not working for me. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

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I came from a Galaxy S3 and so far I'm really loving my new device. I was really close to getting the S5 but a few days/weeks after the S5 announcement, I started to read about the Note 4. It was a loooong wait but well worth it. The screen is amazing and just the size alone will make surfing the web and watching videos a lot more enjoyable.
I've played with the S-Pen and really enjoy it, which brings me to my question. I can't seem to figure out how to use the s-pen like a mouse when selecting text. I know there is an slightly different method using Air Command for this type of thing but I'm looking for the mouse-like text selecting. I thought that all I had to do was hold the button on the s-pen then drag and slide to select but it's not working for me. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
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Just hold the button on the S-Pen and hover over the text and you'll see a line that will allow you to select the text.

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Note 3 and the experience is horrible. My 4g lte isnt working but that's not for everyone's note 4 just some
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I'm sorry to hear that but i came from a note 2 and on this note 4 i have amazing reception. I have lte almost everywhere i go now whereas before i had 4g

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Just hold the button on the S-Pen and hover over the text and you'll see a line that will allow you to select the text.
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Thanks, that was the piece I was missing....the slight hover at the beginning before dragging. :highfive:

Did anyone come from a Apple product or at least tried the iPhone 6 Plus?

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Did anyone come from a Apple product or at least tried the iPhone 6 Plus?
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My wife bought a 6+ when it was released. I've used it some.

From the original Galaxy ---through--> Galaxy S4 -> Note...skipped the S5 because I had the Note II -> Note III -> Now .....NOTE 4
Extremely happy with it. Can't gripe about much but here are some things I really wish they kept on or added*:
USB 3.0
Tempreture Sensor
Humidity Sensor
Speaker on the bottom and not on the back like it is now on the Note 4
4GB of RAM*
Here are the things I'm very grateful for:
The best screen EVER to date
Faster CPU
Faster GPU
METAL!
Better Camera/Sensor
Slightly bigger battery
Relocation of the SIM and microSD slot! No longer have to remove battery like you did on the Note 3
Redesigned rear cover (MUCH better, no more fake stitching)
Curved 2.5D screen
Heart Rate/O2 Sensor
UV Sensor....ehhh...either way pretty cool, but I'd rather have a TEMP and HUMIDITY sensor instead
METAL!
Did I say METAL?!
Finally what we've all been waiting for. A phone that feels like a million bucks in your hand.

RiverCity.45 said:
My wife bought a 6+ when it was released. I've used it some.
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Did you like or hate it?

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Did you like or hate it?
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I didn't hate it. I'm not an iPhone guy, but my wife loves it. She hated her Android phones, so she's happy. That's good for me.

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I didn't hate it. I'm not an iPhone guy, but my wife loves it. She hated her Android phones, so she's happy. That's good for me.
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I agree with you on that. My wife loves her iPhone as well.

The latest device I came from is the LG G3. Before that from last year, I went through the Xperia Z, HTC One M7, LG G2, Xperia Z1, before settling on Nexus 5.
I love the Note so far, first note I've tried. One thing I don't like is the lag from pressing the recents button, but I can live with it. Also not fond of the gap on the right side as I constantly have to blow the dust out, but again I can live with it. All in all best phone I've used so far and touchwiz is not as bad as it was before.
One thing though, I do like to use the pen to write my texts or Web addresses sometimes, and it's quite finicky in terms of recognizing what I type out. Sometimes I have to erase and retry several times which is annoying.

I'm going to buy Tab S 10.5 Tonight

After learning about the official specs for the Nexus 9, I decided to get the Tab S 10.5.
The Nexus 9 turned out to be a huge disappointment, aside from the Tegra K1 chip and stock Android. Let's see:
- smaller screen size
- lower resolution
- slightly lower ppi
- smaller battery
- higher price tag (for a Nexus device)
- only 2 GB of RAM
- thicker bzels
- no stereo front speakers
- thicker and only a few grams lighter, despite being a whole lot smaller
I'm aware that I'm kind of comparing apples to oranges, as they're different screen sizes, but they're *my* choices.
I'm seriously disappointed with Google for botching the Nexus 9. It could've been awesome... The Nexus 6, however, is one damn nice phone.

the screen of Tab S kills the Nexus 9.

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the screen of Tab S kills the Nexus 9.
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That's another reason the Tab S is better than Nexus 9.
Nexus devices never had AMOLED displays. The Nexus 6 will be the first.

rodrigorajao said:
That's another reason the Tab S is better than Nexus 9.
Nexus devices never had AMOLED displays. The Nexus 6 will be the first.
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nope the Legend Nexus One had one, Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus too, it was from Nexus 4/5 we did not get AMOLED

rodrigorajao said:
After learning about the official specs for the Nexus 9, I decided to get the Tab S 10.5.
The Nexus 9 turned out to be a huge disappointment, aside from the Tegra K1 chip and stock Android. Let's see:
- smaller screen size
- lower resolution
- slightly lower ppi
- smaller battery
- higher price tag (for a Nexus device)
- only 2 GB of RAM
- thicker bzels
- no stereo front speakers
- thicker and only a few grams lighter, despite being a whole lot smaller
I'm aware that I'm kind of comparing apples to oranges, as they're different screen sizes, but they're *my* choices.
I'm seriously disappointed with Google for botching the Nexus 9. It could've been awesome... The Nexus 6, however, is one damn nice phone.
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Yup, been waiting all year for the announcement and just getting more and more disappointed as the rumours trickled out. You don't mention what was the real deal-breaker for me: the 4:3 aspect ratio . Have they never tried to watch a movie on an iPad ffs?
Picked up my new Tab S 10.5 on Thursday to find a great offer just started (here in the UK anyway). Warranty extended to 3 years, £50 of Play Store credit and a free 32GB micro-SD card thrown in!
This is the first Samsung device I have owned. I was willing to give Touchwiz a try but I'm afraid it only lasted a day. I had been a bit worried about all the talk of lag around here. I can confirm it is there but very, very slight and as far as I can see is completely confined to the stock launcher and its widgets.
I now have Nova laid out the way I like it with 3 home screens full of scrolling APW widgets for news, Twitter, agenda etc as well as Google Now stuff and I can tell you everything behaves beautifully and as smooth as butter. The underlying Android menus which Samsung have fiddled with always were very smooth even with TW launcher.
This is one beautiful piece of kit and my only regret is having hung on so long for news of the Nexus.

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I had been a bit worried about all the talk of lag around here. I can confirm it is there but very, very slight and as far as I can see is completely confined to the stock launcher and its widgets.
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Rooting + TiBu Freeze of Samsung bloat apps = lag free experience.

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Rooting + TiBu Freeze of Samsung bloat apps = lag free experience.
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As I said replacing TW's launcher with Nova Launcher was enough to get rid of all signs of lag for me . It would be nice to get rid of more of the Samsung bloatware just on principle but unfortunately some of us are too reliant these days on root-detecting apps which makes rooting more trouble than it's worth.

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As I said replacing TW's launcher with Nova Launcher was enough to get rid of all signs of lag for me . It would be nice to get rid of more of the Samsung bloatware just on principle but unfortunately some of us are too reliant these days on root-detecting apps which makes rooting more trouble than it's worth.
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Yes, Nova Launcher helps considerably. I've been running it on all my devices since its first beta. Good stuff.

was waiting for nexus 9
but now i hate it is very disappointment
i really hope lg make great tab like my lg g pro 2 it is fantastic phone no lag at all very very fast love the software

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Rooting + TiBu Freeze of Samsung bloat apps = lag free experience.
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Indeeed, the Tab S has great hardware, but terrible software. My 16GB RAM has over 4GB of "system files" out of the box. This is totally unacceptable in my book.
I'll root this sucker and uninstall the crap as soon as my return period is up.

nexus 9 has stereo front facing speakers

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nexus 9 has stereo front facing speakers
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Yep, and if they are anything like the M8's speakers, they will blow away the Tab S's. Having said that I still think the Tab S is an overall better device. The worst thing about the Nexus 9: it looks like an ipad.

The worst thing about the nexus 9 is the smaller screen and higher price tag.

I bought one the other day instead of getting the iPad Air 2. So far so good. Only thing I need to get used to is holding in landscape all the time. I never turn my iPads to landscape.

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As I said replacing TW's launcher with Nova Launcher was enough to get rid of all signs of lag for me . It would be nice to get rid of more of the Samsung bloatware just on principle but unfortunately some of us are too reliant these days on root-detecting apps which makes rooting more trouble than it's worth.
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Same here. Nova makes a huge difference. Rooting for me is a no go on this device as well for the same reason.

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Same here. Nova makes a huge difference. Rooting for me is a no go on this device as well for the same reason.
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Sad though that a manufacturer as large as Samsung can't get its own software to work smoothly on its own flagship device when a little outfit like Nova can get their stuff optimized just fine

I've come from the Galaxy note 10.1 2012 edition which was also a great tablet but this Galaxy S is just a stuipdly good tablet and you can pick up some recon bargains from Argos now too, got mine for £329 - it came brand new in opened box, looks like it had been opened and then just returned, still had plastic cover and all cables were still bagged etc.
Screen is simply amazing in the dark, still get inky blacks in pitch black, however there is a greeny colour cast orsomething to it in daylight when the birghtness is turned down and the headphone volume could be about 30% louder (system\etc default volme tweaks dont work for me for some reason).

I just bought a 10.5 last night and I couldn't be happier. The screen is amazing! Haven't experienced any lag but I put nova launcher on it rite away since I always use it on my phones. Loving it so far

I think Tab S is a good choice.. I have one question though.
How to hold the Tab S in protrait mode as I keep pressing the menu or back key.. Please help.

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I think Tab S is a good choice.. I have one question though.
How to hold the Tab S in protrait mode as I keep pressing the menu or back key.. Please help.
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Hold it lower or use one hand - it's light enough ! This is my first Samsung and I need to get used to the hardware buttons - especially since they decided to put Back and Recent the other way round to normal Android.
They say it takes 30 days for our brain to form new habits. Oh well, only 3 weeks to go now .

S5 to S6 Decision

I'm planning on upgrading in a few weeks. My question is for folks who went from the S5 to the S6.....
Is it worth it? Can't pull the battery. No SD card slot.
Are you impressed? Pissed? I've done a lot of reading on the S6, but, I would rather hear it first hand from yall.

I came from a Note 4. I am happy with the S6. Have not rooted yet. Just waiting to see more thoughts and app support for 64 bit. Screen is clear and very bright. It's very manageable in my hand. Easy to text. I got the 64gb version
Because I take a ton of pics. I think with a little dev support. This phone will fly faster then how it is now. Do get a case though. I think I cam honestly wait till the S7 whenever that comes down the road. Camera is amazing.
Overall I'm very happy.
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Would love some sickness over here.

I will more than likely be here in a few weeks.

also had a Note 4, and pretty much agree with the other poster; fantastic display, ultra smooth and fast,(not using touchwiz), battery is fine after a few days, and the built in wireless charging makes keeping the battery charged a breeze, camera is incredible, and I thought I would miss the ext sd card, but with a 64/128 gig phone, and such easy access to large cloud storage, its a non issue for me.
Rooted easily, not much dev yet, but its only been out "officially" for a couple of weeks, so not concerned about that.
Zero regrets at this point..

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also had a Note 4, and pretty much agree with the other poster; fantastic display, ultra smooth and fast,(not using touchwiz), battery is fine after a few days, and the built in wireless charging makes keeping the battery charged a breeze, camera is incredible, and I thought I would miss the ext sd card, but with a 64/128 gig phone, and such easy access to large cloud storage, its a non issue for me.
Rooted easily, not much dev yet, but its only been out "officially" for a couple of weeks, so not concerned about that.
Zero regrets at this point..
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Pretty much this for me too.
I had a G3. The stock rom was ok and Xposed tweaks made it better, but development never picked up like I had hoped. When the S6 came out, I sold the G3 and got a regular S6 64 GB. I thought I would miss expandable memory, but I haven't. The G3 camera was awesome but the S6 camera is even better. The screen is phenomenal — it blows everything else out of the water. The fingerprint scanner actually works and isn't some janky wannabe that was tacked on at the last minute. Touchwiz is...tolerable. I never thought I would say that about TW because every other Samsung phone I've owned made me want to flash another rom within a day of using it. TW has been toned down a notch. It won't sway anyone from stock android, but Samsung has definitely taken a step in the right direction. The S6 battery life sucked for the first few days, but then I read about the wifi calling & VoLTE bugs, so I disabled those and battery life has been better. I do miss having a removable battery. I bought wireless chargers for my bedroom and for work, and they do the job. Plus, the quick charge feature really helps. I have gradually changed my expectations regarding battery life. So instead of being irritated that the S6 does not have exceptional stamina, I just enjoy it for what it does offer.
If you typically get more than 24 hours on your S5, then you might make it to bedtime with the S6.
If you are a heavy user and don't want to (or can't) bump charge during the day, then you will probably be disappointed. But if you don't mind plugging in during the day, then I would say go for it.

The Sickness! That alone makes me absolutely thrilled that I jumped to the s6! Your an AMAZING developer!

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The Sickness! That alone makes me absolutely thrilled that I jumped to the s6! Your an AMAZING developer!
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Thanks man. Hopefully I can continue my Twisted Lollipop here very soon.

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Thanks man. Hopefully I can continue my Twisted Lollipop here very soon.
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Bro, luv this phone! Just went on vacation last week with the family took some priceless pictures! Feel, screen, lag free, battery is way better than expected! Just have to keep running the things you use not the things you don't. No different from the s2,s3,s4,or the s5. Went for the plane Jane s6. The edge was tempting, but I'm a diesel tech of 18 years, when I held it, I felt that no case out there would protect my abuse - just too exposed. Extremely happy with this device! Short of the Sickness touch of course! Love some direction on how to donate to you, YOUR why my decision to the s6 from the s5 was so difficult. That aside, IMO, overall this puts the s5 to shame.

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Bro, luv this phone! Just went on vacation last week with the family took some priceless pictures! Feel, screen, lag free, battery is way better than expected! Just have to keep running the things you use not the things you don't. No different from the s2,s3,s4,or the s5. Went for the plane Jane s6. The edge was tempting, but I'm a diesel tech of 18 years, when I held it, I felt that no case out there would protect my abuse - just too exposed. Extremely happy with this device! Short of the Sickness touch of course! Love some direction on how to donate to you, YOUR why my decision to the s6 from the s5 was so difficult. That aside, IMO, overall this puts the s5 to shame.
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Under my info is a yellow button that says Donate to me.....it will take you to PayPal. You can see the button in Web view, not the XDA app.
I'll be here. Just have to sell my S4. I have a deal with my wife on upgrading. Long story.

Coming from s4 to note 4 now s6. S4 was awesome but now laggy for it's time also battery was horrendous. Not 4 was awesome the battery was amazing it lasted for ever. The screen was so crisp. My only issue was it was tooo big. I found myself fumbling in one handed operation. And my thumbs were pulling muscles. Coming from those devices i feel this phone is unstopable as far as speed/lag. The camera is way better as far as clarity and speed. The quick double press of the home button to open the camera is genius. No regrets accept the larger screen was nice for movies and web browsing but i would rather be able to one hand it. Sd card is no issue with 64 gig plus. The memory is much faster and shows in performance. Battery pull is a non issue with power and volume down. Does the reset just fine. The battery life on the s6 is fantastic. Very close to the note 4. I cant compare to the s5 but i get way better battery life than the s4. One thing I am not fond of is the new TW app drawer. You have to hit an alphabetical sorting button every time you add apps other wise it just adds them to the end. Also you cant scoll through apps past the letter z. It wont go to A. You have to scroll left through all the apps backwords. Also it groups tons of apps by folders, like google apps in one and social apps in another. No way to change it. Yes i know there is nova and others but i liked the old touchwiz the way it was. Nova cant scroll past letter Z either. All in all I think you are going to be very pleased with this new upgrade. I cant wait to see what you can do with it. It will be SICK.

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Coming from s4 to note 4 now s6. S4 was awesome but now laggy for it's time also battery was horrendous. Not 4 was awesome the battery was amazing it lasted for ever. The screen was so crisp. My only issue was it was tooo big. I found myself fumbling in one handed operation. And my thumbs were pulling muscles. Coming from those devices i feel this phone is unstopable as far as speed/lag. The camera is way better as far as clarity and speed. The quick double press of the home button to open the camera is genius. No regrets accept the larger screen was nice for movies and web browsing but i would rather be able to one hand it. Sd card is no issue with 64 gig plus. The memory is much faster and shows in performance. Battery pull is a non issue with power and volume down. Does the reset just fine. The battery life on the s6 is fantastic. Very close to the note 4. I cant compare to the s5 but i get way better battery life than the s4. One thing I am not fond of is the new TW app drawer. You have to hit an alphabetical sorting button every time you add apps other wise it just adds them to the end. Also you cant scoll through apps past the letter z. It wont go to A. You have to scroll left through all the apps backwords. Also it groups tons of apps by folders, like google apps in one and social apps in another. No way to change it. Yes i know there is nova and others but i liked the old touchwiz the way it was. Nova cant scroll past letter Z either. All in all I think you are going to be very pleased with this new upgrade. I cant wait to see what you can do with it. It will be SICK.
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Are s6's will be totally awesome with some sickness. Hell yeah buddy!!!
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I'm ready ☺

I'm waiting for my S4 to sell and I'll be picking up the S6 that day. Super freaking stoked!!! Also looking forward to some Sickness!

hs420 said:
I'm waiting for my S4 to sell and I'll be picking up the S6 that day. Super freaking stoked!!! Also looking forward to some Sickness!
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Just sold mine last night

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One thing I am not fond of is the new TW app drawer....you cant scoll through apps past the letter z. It wont go to A. You have to scroll left through all the apps backwords. Yes i know there is nova and others but i liked the old touchwiz the way it was. Nova cant scroll past letter Z either.
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Do you mean scrolling from Z back to A? Nova does that. Under Nova Settings > Drawer > Infinite Scroll
@The Sickness
I never had a S4 or S5 but I saw your rom features, and it looks pretty sweet. One thing though: Is it possible to mod the stock messaging app with option to delay sending sms for a few seconds? CM has this feature, which is the only thing I miss from CM.
Edit: Never mind. Textra offers delayed sending, I will try that.

Get it sickness, this phone is awesome.. I honestly didn't expect to love my GS6 this much.. Best decision I've made, definitely worth the upgrade, the camera is f*ckin awesome.. Touchwiz has been scaled back significantly and not to mention how sexy this phone is..
EDIT: plus the finger scanner makes much more sense this time around lol, battery life was good IMO, when I first got the phone I noticed significant battery drain, but the more I use the phone it seems like the battery life is getting better, the only thing I miss from my s5 is the waterproofing, that was one less thing to worry about, also this phone has a glass back, so I'd suggest you had a case or some kind of glass protector for the back, and a screen protector on the front

I got my S6 today. I've only had it for about 5 hours so far but holy cow this thing is amazing!! The screen and the camera are ridiculously clear, apps load way fast, and so far the battery is holding up better than my S4 did with similar usage. @The Sickness you won't be disappointed!!

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Just sold mine last night
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So did you actually get yhe s6? Or did you choose another brand?

Still getting the S6.....just waiting on some stuff to be settled with PayPal