My 3T has arrived, and I want to migrate from my 5X. I have a couple of questions:
Which ROM?
I know this has been discussed ad-infinitum, but I can't see the forest for the trees. I see lots of discussion about Oxygen vs CM / Lineage / Paranoid Android / AOSPE. I can say that even though I'm a "power user" in that I use my phone a lot, I am happy to stay close to the vanilla Android experience with minimal bloatware / "custom" experiences. I will need root for Titanium Backup, Greenify(*), Xposed, and perhaps a couple of other apps. In the olden days, I used CM on my HTC Desire and Moto G, but my Nexus has been just great with the factory ROM. I'm looking for maximum stability rather than tweakability that I'll never use. And sorry for being lazy, but I don't want to try ten ROMs to see what suits me, it will just become a pain.
How to migrate my apps and data?
Just use Titanium Backup? It's worked well for me in the past between different handsets. Or is the Google Android sync working well these days, and everything will just sync when I sign in with my Google Account?
(*) Is Greenify still regarded as useful on a 3T?
OxygenOS is fine. LineageOS is very stable too.
Most apps restore data from google, but some don't.
OxygenOS: Better camera. Reliable slow motion video recording, slightly better image quality.
Currently there is a bug on the latest official version (and custom ROMs based on it) that randomly wakes the screen up during phone calls if you have the double tap to wake feature enabled. Disable it or use the latest open beta, which is number 13 at the moment.
LineageOS: You have Substratum and and a bunch of ROMs based on it with a bunch of features. I believe you know it already, so it's up to you to decide.
Use Titanium if you want the app data as well, for example facebook login, offline game saves, etc. Google backup simply installs all the apps and logs you into Google services.
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OxygenOS is fine. LineageOS is very stable too.
Most apps restore data from google, but some don't.
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I don't doubt that, I was looking for more of a comparision.
ast00 said:
OxygenOS: Better camera. Reliable slow motion video recording, slightly better image quality.
Currently there is a bug on the latest official version (and custom ROMs based on it) that randomly wakes the screen up during phone calls if you have the double tap to wake feature enabled. Disable it or use the latest open beta, which is number 13 at the moment.
LineageOS: You have Substratum and and a bunch of ROMs based on it with a bunch of features. I believe you know it already, so it's up to you to decide.
Use Titanium if you want the app data as well, for example facebook login, offline game saves, etc. Google backup simply installs all the apps and logs you into Google services.
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I do take a lot of photos (snaps, for serious stuff I use a DSLR), so camera quality is important to me. However if we're talking about a small difference between cameras, and the Lineage camera is still fine for most use, I don't think I would use camera quality as a single reason to prefer one ROM to another. Anything else good / better about OxygenOS, or is it mostly bloatware (for someone like me who's quite vanilla ).
It will be weird but good going back to Lineage, as a CM user from many years ago. What about AOSP(E)? Does it feature in the equation?
On one hand, I love the developer-friendliness of OnePlus, on the other hand, there's so much contradictory information out there, it's hard to know what's real. Some people say the cameras are night and day, some say they're similar. Some say battery life is night and day, some say similar. I just edited my original post because I read that Paranoid Android might be a contender... You get my point...
From what you say, I'll definitely use Titanium. I've been with it for years, so I know where I am. In fact, maybe I should stop Google installing the apps so I can do it with Titanium?
I went from the Nexus 5x to the OnePlus 3T myself, and I'm currently running Paranoid Android. It's close to stock, has great battery life (usually I have 73% battery after 6 hours of frequent usage, but I don't have a Sim Card at the moment so I don't know the drainage with data enabled) and great performance. Bluetooth devices have a battery level in the status bar which I find incredibly useful, and theming is nice and easy. Only problem is updates, so I recommend switching to an Oreo based ROM when they are developed and switch back to PA when it gets Oreo.
i have been use all rom and the best still oxygen os very stable and minimum bloatware best rom so far but now i tried AOSPA and great but i think the oxygen is best
If you are lazy, Use FreedomOS : it's stock beta rom with nice addons: bloatremover,magisk,... and it's stock, mean you are no need to think about other problems like bugs~ they will be fixed by oneplus.
If you still want something like you old nexus i think you should take a look at Viper: not update so weekly, but it mean less bugs, brilliant features, nice stock apps, and even 2 theme engines: one similar to OOS and one is famous Substratum
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I went from the Nexus 5x to the OnePlus 3T myself, and I'm currently running Paranoid Android. It's close to stock, has great battery life (usually I have 73% battery after 6 hours of frequent usage, but I don't have a Sim Card at the moment so I don't know the drainage with data enabled) and great performance. Bluetooth devices have a battery level in the status bar which I find incredibly useful, and theming is nice and easy. Only problem is updates, so I recommend switching to an Oreo based ROM when they are developed and switch back to PA when it gets Oreo.
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That's exactly the kind of disruption I want to avoid. But PA is currently pretty up to date, so hopefully they can keep it that way. I could wait a few weeks for Oreo whilst bugs are ironed out.
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If you are lazy, Use FreedomOS : it's stock beta rom with nice addons: bloatremover,magisk,... and it's stock, mean you are no need to think about other problems like bugs~ they will be fixed by oneplus.
If you still want something like you old nexus i think you should take a look at Viper: not update so weekly, but it mean less bugs, brilliant features, nice stock apps, and even 2 theme engines: one similar to OOS and one is famous Substratum
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At first, I thought, I am lazy, great idea with FreedomOS. But for updates, it means waiting 1) for OnePlus to release then 2) for the FreedomOS code to be updated. They're still on 7.1.1, PA is up to 7.2.3. Also I'd be worried about the long-term, it seems PA have disappeared in the past, but at least they are a big team, FreedomOS looks like a one-man show.
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That's exactly the kind of disruption I want to avoid. But PA is currently pretty up to date, so hopefully they can keep it that way. I could wait a few weeks for Oreo whilst bugs are ironed out.
At first, I thought, I am lazy, great idea with FreedomOS. But for updates, it means waiting 1) for OnePlus to release then 2) for the FreedomOS code to be updated. They're still on 7.1.1, PA is up to 7.2.3. Also I'd be worried about the long-term, it seems PA have disappeared in the past, but at least they are a big team, FreedomOS looks like a one-man show.
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PA 7.2.3 is android 7.1.2 like other custom roms based on aosp/linage , 2.3 is just their name they call that rom,
And about long term support, here in XDA, we all knows every devs have their life, they could drop their project for works family...
we can't blame them:fingers-crossed:, since we pay nothing but "likes" for their works, PA may discounted, FreedomOS too.But there will many good devs here, in XDA create new good rom for us,
Did you have an nexus5 before?i run it great for years with slimkat, DU... then google dropped support for it and slim disappear, but even now, nexus 5 still can run good with android 7.1.2 Darkrom. and even Gcam with HDR+ from pixel, So dont worry about support. we're in XDA, with little search, try few roms for days, then choose your favorite :good: I'm currently running Viper with google cam, but maybe i will add lastest freedomos as secondary in multirom.
Enjoy your phone,
Oh wow, how silly do I look with the version numbers... Thanks for the clarification!
I wouldn't blame any open source development for not having time, but equally I'd rather use a ROM that gets updated in a reasonable (not quick) time. I just don't have time to spend hours researching every few months.
I have a Nexus 5X, running 7.1.2 from Google, with minimal tweaks. SuperSU, Titanium, Greenify (is that still a thing that people use), AdAway. I've been really happy with that setup.
So it's a funny decision:
PA based on AOSP with many useful things added.
FreedomOS based on Oxygen with non-useful things removed, and a few useful things added?
Did I sum it up reasonably?
Also, are these statements relevant / true?
PA is CAF-based and FreedomOS isn't? If so, should I care?
FreedomOS has Viper4Android and ARISE, which as a music fan I should care about? Or is it just fake audio processing, which actually makes the audio less natural? I'd never heard of either until I started reading about 3T ROMs.
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Hi, I have just flashed Nougat 7.1.1 factory image and it is notlaggy as previous nougat image.
But, IDK, I was having issues with Pixel launcher and ram usage, went to CM 14.1 but phone was laggy aF.
As I think, this will be the latest Nougat or Whatever update We will be receiving for this device.
And I wanted to know if I should keep stock nougat running for a few weeks [No FC's, no Restarts, No Issues so far] or if I should change to a AOSP rom.
Based on your personal experience, [And if you have traveled this route before], What would you recommend?
Stock Nougat 7.1.1 N4F26M or Any other AOSP [Tell me your favorite ones, without that extreme menu settings or linux shell to make it a daily driver]
I think more of a ROM for the looks, combined with good performance... Loved the Pixel Launcher tho! but it is not optimized correctly.
Miui is far behind on software version and no oficial port.
CM is dead
LineageOs is not eligible "Yet" for my daily driver [this is my only phone for now]
Do not like menu settings with a lot of banners and 'notification bar settings extended"..
I do want, performance settings, maybe a different kernel with the rom.
Hope you can help me!
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Hi, I have just flashed Nougat 7.1.1 factory image and it is notlaggy as previous nougat image.
But, IDK, I was having issues with Pixel launcher and ram usage, went to CM 14.1 but phone was laggy aF.
As I think, this will be the latest Nougat or Whatever update We will be receiving for this device.
And I wanted to know if I should keep stock nougat running for a few weeks [No FC's, no Restarts, No Issues so far] or if I should change to a AOSP rom.
Based on your personal experience, [And if you have traveled this route before], What would you recommend?
Stock Nougat 7.1.1 N4F26M or Any other AOSP [Tell me your favorite ones, without that extreme menu settings or linux shell to make it a daily driver]
I think more of a ROM for the looks, combined with good performance... Loved the Pixel Launcher tho! but it is not optimized correctly.
Miui is far behind on software version and no oficial port.
CM is dead
LineageOs is not eligible "Yet" for my daily driver [this is my only phone for now]
Do not like menu settings with a lot of banners and 'notification bar settings extended"..
I do want, performance settings, maybe a different kernel with the rom.
Hope you can help me!
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Why don't you give it a try to PureNexus ROM. Its fast, very stable and with very few bugs, if any, plus you get that Pixel like experience. It gets updated at least monthly, if not more often.
To me, it looked more stable that CM 14.1, I see that especially when I use Snapchat, which runs much better in this ROM. Dont get me wrong, stock Nougat is very good but does not have so many features as PureNexus has.
Cheers
uberstock is very nice and stable and not filled with too many extras....no issues for me so far.....link is in my signature
I'm having better experience with AOSP, I'm now running EmotionOS and the kernel it includes, I don't know if it has a custom one, If it doens't replace the kernel, I'm using it with Franco Kernel. Coming from the latest stock 7.1.1, is a much better experience IMO. Give it a try to Emotion OS with pico gapps.
Pure Nexus is amazing in terms of performance and most importantly the battery life. I am not talking about SoT or otherwise, I will tell you as a very layman experience. You use your phone, do whatsapp, surf facebook and browse during the day with all other normal activities of your life and PureNexus can easily give you 24hours or more of the charge without compromising the features and performance. I think you should try PureNexus AND stay with it for a week. Do not judge the battery life of a rom in a day or two, let it tune itself after a couple of charge (complete) discharge cycles and you'll be ok with it.
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Why don't you give it a try to PureNexus ROM. Its fast, very stable and with very few bugs, if any, plus you get that Pixel like experience. It gets updated at least monthly, if not more often.
To me, it looked more stable that CM 14.1, I see that especially when I use Snapchat, which runs much better in this ROM. Dont get me wrong, stock Nougat is very good but does not have so many features as PureNexus has.
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Any kernel Options? I just read about the pure nexus rom and it seems to be the best one [based on other users ratings]
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Any kernel Options? I just read about the pure nexus rom and it seems to be the best one [based on other users ratings]
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Well I use the kernel that comes with it, since I don't feel the need to mess with other kernels. It gives me pretty good battery life and rock solid performance. I use Kernel Adiutor only to enable Double Tap to wake feature.
If you want to change things a little bit then Franco Kernel works good as well. I used it but messed it up and the phone started making funny things, restarts and such. But then again I didn't knew what I was doing at the time, so I let it go completely. Other users though had very good experiences with it.
I'm very tempted to try Pure Nexus ROM, I'm a purist always used only stock and no root, in fact I miss marshmallow and how fluid it was, but anyway kind of happy with nougat. Now that seems that 7.1.1 is buggy (speakerphone issue) I won't side load that update til we know the issue is fixed. So do you guys know if that ROM somehow fixes that annoying increasing ringtone and tone sounds when a message arrives in Nexus 6? I already read the goodies the ROM have posted by you guys, what else do you gain with this ROM? Many thanks.
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If you're looking for a great aosp rom, try ABC rom. The thread has a collection for all different devices, wrongway123 builds for the N6.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=70613122
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Guys - I'd give my performance on 7.1.1 a 7/10 - I do see some lag at times with various apps and wondering if anybody has switched to Pixel and sees no lag whatsoever (iphone type of performance)
Also, can we expect a 7.1.2 on this phone?
Thanks
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Guys - I'd give my performance on 7.1.1 a 7/10 - I do see some lag at times with various apps and wondering if anybody has switched to Pixel and sees no lag whatsoever (iphone type of performance)
Also, can we expect a 7.1.2 on this phone?
Thanks
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I've not experienced any lag... 7.1.1 with Franco Kernel.
We will not get 7.1.2. It's been confirmed by Google. Security updates will keep coming for a while longer though.
In preparation for that I nuked my phone yesterday and for the first time flashed a custom ROM. Trying out Pure Nexus, and if anything it feels smoother. Probably a placebo result from wiping...
I've noticed a lot of lag with 7.1.1 and reduced battery life. I've considered going back to MM, but am not sure if I'l get the security updates. Below 40% battery the lag is pretty bad, the phone is hardly usable below 20%. I've used different Kernels in the past, but want to keep it on a locked bootloader so I can use Android pay without having to constantly play cat and mouse with google and find ways to trick the phone in to passing the safety net. This was a great phone until 7.1.1
Agree on most parts, marshmallow feels more fluid and stable but now is in the past.
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N6, 2 years old. Nougat 7.1.1 speaker echo fix. ROM:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59561445/
After flashing this lite pre-rooted stock ROM I've deleted stuff I don't use.
I am using only apps that have a black/dark interface or the blacked out apps of TBO-team.
No lag, battery life enough for 1 day. Wireless charging at night.
Just for interest, why did you choose this ROM? When LineageOS issues a ROM based on 7.1.2 I'll probably give it a go. I'm no connoisseur of ROMs, but it's good to know the possibilities.
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Just for interest, why did you choose this ROM....
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That question needs a rather long answer.
I've tried several N6-Roms including Cataclysm and CM.
Cataclysm was a mod of the stock version. That's why I preferred Cata. But Cata is gone.[emoji26]
I choosed the lite stockROM of Danvdh because it's debloated. I need only to remove Gmail and G-messenger and not used language and keyboard stuff.
I like performance so my N6 is not encrypted.
Also don't use Assistant.
After deleting G-stuff etc, I added the following :
Aquamail, Signal, Black Keep, Black G-app, the speaker echo fix, double tap2wake and a black layer for the settings.
For now my N6 is performing very well. I think I will keep it this year and maybe longer.
I keep an eye on One Plus 3T and Lineage for Android updates.
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Just for interest, why did you choose this ROM? When LineageOS issues a ROM based on 7.1.2 I'll probably give it a go. I'm no connoisseur of ROMs, but it's good to know the possibilities.
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Many wont use LOS due to it having the same issues that CM has had for years. Kinda disappointing really. Also remember that the LOS/CM team are the slowest to update their versions. Sometimes almost a year later.
So I made the switch to Nougat and gave up xposed. I'm looking for a rom with customization, good battery life and one that supports dash charging. I was using aosp extended for a little bit but I had so many issues. Also resurrection Remix gave me issues. Can anyone help me out
Try Phoenix AOSP Extended. I know you said that you already tried the official AOSP Extended, but really... Just try Phoenix. It's great! If you don't like that one, then try Legend ROM. Updates for that one aren't the fastest, but they don't need to be. It's already quite solid.
For me now the best option is a modded oxygen rom that suit you.
My vote is for FreedomOS v2.10 clean & fresh install with fresh install of all APPs, etc... Add during flashing a few basics like Face Detection for Media, Google Keyboard, Google Search, Google NFC Tags, AntHalService for fitness thingies, BT Midi Service just cause, OnePlus Camera cause it's awesome, then make sure to choose Google DNS, EnojiOne, Google Assistant & Substratum for K-Klock & Ozone... manually flash Pixel Dialer / Contacts and delete the stock ones in recovery... Don't use Root / Magisk during Flashing and don't use A.R.I.S.E either, too much of a hassle and not worth the results in my opinion. Manually flash Magisk 13 and choose Magisk Hide after boot... This'll pass SafetyNet and let you install Netflix, use Android Pay, etc... Don't use any Magisk Modules for now until things get sorted out. Right now using the modules causes a trip to SafetyNet. You can also flash Blu_Spark Kernel for some added awesomeness.
This has by far been the absolute BEST Nougat experience for me with none of the issues of using a non-OOS based ROM and I'm getting VERY solid battery life and unbelievably smooth performance with no changes to the Kernel settings and a boatload of APPs installed.
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My vote is for FreedomOS v2.10 clean & fresh install with fresh install of all APPs, etc... Add during flashing a few basics like Face Detection for Media, Google Keyboard, Google Search, Google NFC Tags, AntHalService for fitness thingies, BT Midi Service just cause, OnePlus Camera cause it's awesome, then make sure to choose Google DNS, EnojiOne, Google Assistant & Substratum for K-Klock & Ozone... manually flash Pixel Dialer / Contacts and delete the stock ones in recovery... Don't use Root / Magisk during Flashing and don't use A.R.I.S.E either, too much of a hassle and not worth the results in my opinion. Manually flash Magisk 13 and choose Magisk Hide after boot... This'll pass SafetyNet and let you install Netflix, use Android Pay, etc... Don't use any Magisk Modules for now until things get sorted out. Right now using the modules causes a trip to SafetyNet. You can also flash Blu_Spark Kernel for some added awesomeness.
This has by far been the absolute BEST Nougat experience for me with none of the issues of using a non-OOS based ROM and I'm getting VERY solid battery life and unbelievably smooth performance with no changes to the Kernel settings and a boatload of APPs installed.
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That sounds really interesting, I've actually registered here because I have the same exact question as the OP. I've tried LineageOS, Paranoid Android (AOSPA), and was thinking about trying Resurrection Remix but they either report bugs or don't really have any interesting features. Personally I'm all about customization. (So pretty much same as OP.)
Currently I'm using stock OxygenOS (with some root apps to make it better... MiXplorer, AFWall+, All in One Gestures, Greenify, Magisk, BusyBox, and was planning on trying to install Substratum) on OP3T but can't seem to get Magisk to pass SafetyNet...
I've been running Resurrection Remix for quite a while now and have to say that it's just awesome. Tons of customization options, super fast and stable. Full OMS support so that you can theme everything with substratum. Running it in combination with EX Kernel and AKT profile and got superb battery backup. Yesterday for example I had 7 hrs SOT with still 23% left. WiFi only, no gaming but everyday usage.
Just give it a try!
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I've been running Resurrection Remix for quite a while now and have to say that it's just awesome. Tons of customization options, super fast and stable. Full OMS support so that you can theme everything with substratum. Running it in combination with EX Kernel and AKT profile and got superb battery backup. Yesterday for example I had 7 hrs SOT with still 23% left. WiFi only, no gaming but everyday usage.
Just give it a try!
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Resurrection Remix is definitely one of, if not THE, most customizable ROMs out there and if I were to choose a ROM that wasn't OOS based RR would definitely be it. It's always been stable for me. I only use an OOS based ROM to prevent any compatibility issues / bugs that the custom AOSP/LOS ROMs normally run into on any device. Usually it's minor, but I've had major heating issues on a few releases over the past few years that have caused screen burn issues so I've been a bit scared to go back to non-stock based ROMs on my devices.
IMO, hands-down best ROM/kernel is Vertex. about as fast as OOS, without the issues of OOS and performs much better than anything based on LOS
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IMO, hands-down best ROM/kernel is Vertex. about as fast as OOS, without the issues of OOS and performs much better than anything based on LOS
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but vertex has no much features isn't it? less then OOS.
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but vertex has no much features isn't it? less then OOS.
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yes, it is lacking in features when compared to most other ROMs, but makes up for it with speed, stability and battery life. quality over quantity. works better than OOS in a lot of ways.
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yes, it is lacking in features when compared to most other ROMs, but makes up for it with speed, stability and battery life. quality over quantity. works better than OOS in a lot of ways.
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I haven't run into any issues with OOS at all. Can you provide a few examples where it's having issues and where Vertex would be a better fit for us to look for that quality over quantity setup? I wouldn't mind giving Vertex a try if it's better than OOS. I just don't know where OOS has any issues yet.
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I've been running Resurrection Remix for quite a while now and have to say that it's just awesome. Tons of customization options, super fast and stable. Full OMS support so that you can theme everything with substratum. Running it in combination with EX Kernel and AKT profile and got superb battery backup. Yesterday for example I had 7 hrs SOT with still 23% left. WiFi only, no gaming but everyday usage.
Just give it a try!
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I have so many issues with RR.
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Try Phoenix AOSP Extended. I know you said that you already tried the official AOSP Extended, but really... Just try Phoenix. It's great! If you don't like that one, then try Legend ROM. Updates for that one aren't the fastest, but they don't need to be. It's already quite solid.
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I'll check it out. I'm using DirtyUnicorns right now but theres not that much customization lol.
CJ-Wylde said:
I haven't run into any issues with OOS at all. Can you provide a few examples where it's having issues and where Vertex would be a better fit for us to look for that quality over quantity setup? I wouldn't mind giving Vertex a try if it's better than OOS. I just don't know where OOS has any issues yet.
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battery life is the best example. OOS wasn't a great experience for me when it came to battery. vertex is the most stable experience i've had with battery life on this device. also, my pebble 2 voice command for whatever reason doesn't work with OOS. sometimes apps i want on play store aren't 'compatible'.
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Try Phoenix AOSP Extended. I know you said that you already tried the official AOSP Extended, but really... Just try Phoenix. It's great! If you don't like that one, then try Legend ROM. Updates for that one aren't the fastest, but they don't need to be. It's already quite solid.
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Can't seem to bypass safetynet, so I'm going back to DirtyUnicorns.
What is with Lineage OS from sultanxda??
Have absolute no problems so far? Is vertex better? And why?
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What is with Lineage OS from sultanxda??
Have absolute no problems so far? Is vertex better? And why?
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i tried Linage and it didnt work. can you link me please
So far, DirtyUnicorns is the only rom that will let me bypass safetynet. Lineage and PhoenixAOSP Extended won't bypass it.
I was on RR for a while then I tried ViperOS, I must say it's pretty solid and smooth.
What about Camera drivers, use OOS because of that. And is ruining great for me, never get a phone that the battery last that much. Just love the phone and the freedom os.
This is not a place to compare roms, but a place to share your experience with your current daily driver on your Oneplus 5.
What rom are you currently using?
How do you like it?
What is your overall experience with it?
Are you using it with a specific kernel or the built-in one?
Would you recommend it to someone?
Etc...
Let discussion begin!
Note: I think having a thread like this can help keeping development threads clean.
Good initiative!
I tried many Roms and Kernels since I've got my OP5 about an week and a half ago.
First thing i was getting rid of the "buggy" official stock rom haha. I played with it for a vew hours and gave in. Than i was preparing everything for unlocking, rooting etc..etc... It was easier than i thought! Didn't expect it!
First ROM i flashed was an unreleased BETA build from a team i being part off. Just to getting used to this device and playing aLOT with an optimized Kernel (also an build by the Team Dev) after a vew days, i was trying other ROMs, i mean no Roms that where close or based on stock OOS. More based on AOSP and LOS.
After a couple of days, i found my right ROM and Kernel combination so i ended up with:
"RR Unofficial" with "Blu_Sparky" Kernel!
I like the debloated version of RR and the battery friendly and easy tunable Blu_Spark Kernel with EX Manager.
I get about 9-10 hours SOT, since I'm not an heavy multitasker or gamer. Besides that, i'm facing no errors, no random reboots, no screen blackouts, or whatsoever! It is for me the Stable Combination!
Currently I'm waiting for an Android 8 Build by the Team Dev. Which is also going to be an AOSP based Rom with "hopefully" aLOT of Optimizations!
Easy does it
Edit: This was a newbie post. I won't recommend this anymore, since it is outdated and whatsoever...
lekiaM said:
Good initiative!
I tried many Roms and Kernels since I've got my OP5 about an week and a half ago.
First thing i was getting rid of the "buggy" official stock rom haha. I played with it for a vew hours and gave in. Than i was preparing everything for unlocking, rooting etc..etc... It was easier than i thought! Didn't expect it!
First ROM i flashed was an unreleased BETA build from a team i being part off. Just to getting used to this device and playing aLOT with an optimized Kernel (also an build by the Team Dev) after a vew days, i was trying other ROMs, i mean no Roms that where close or based on stock OOS. More based on AOSP and LOS.
After a couple of days, i found my right ROM and Kernel combination so i ended up with:
"RR Unofficial" with "Blu_Sparky" Kernel!
I like the debloated version of RR and the battery friendly and easy tunable Blu_Spark Kernel with EX Manager.
I get about 9-10 hours SOT, since I'm not an heavy multitasker or gamer. Besides that, i'm facing no errors, no random reboots, no screen blackouts, or whatsoever! It is for me the Stable Combination!
Currently I'm waiting for an Android 8 Build by the Team Dev. Which is also going to be an AOSP based Rom with "hopefully" aLOT of Optimizations!
Easy does it
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Thanks a lot for sharing your experience with us. That's helpful! :good:
My first ever Android device was a Nexus 6P, and I ran only Pure Nexus on it. I then moved to the Pixel XL, and also primarily ran Pure Nexus. After basically two years of running an AOSP based ROM, I had only good opinions on AOSP based ROMs.
Because development seemed a little tricky for Pixels, I decided to switch over to the OnePlus 5. I, then, flashed a handful of AOSP based ROMs, hoping I would receive the same stability, smoothness, and just the right amount of features Pure Nexus has.
The results didn't seem to be the same. I am by no means bashing on, hating, or criticizing any AOSP based ROM that is available for this device, but I personally just did not feel the same smoothness as I did on Pure Nexus. I decided to try LOS based ROMs, and the unofficial RR has by far been the best!
It's smooth, stable, and very snappy. There is one thing that "bugs" me though (excuse the pun lol):
The VPN icon doesn't hide, unless you disable and reenable something else in the SystemUI tuner. This workaround only lasts until you restart the phone, or even restart the SystemUI
Another thing worth noting (which isn't a bug), there are some unneeded apps that I have to manually uninstall with TitaniumBackup, such as the Music app, the file explorer, and the default phone and contacts app (among a couple others). Very small inconvenience and it's not enough to keep me away from the ROM lol.
Other than that, it's an amazing ROM, especially because it already comes with a custom kernel, and YouTube AdBlock/Background Playback!
Going back to the AOSP based ROMs, just to further reinforce that I'm not trying to bash these ROMs: OnePlus 5 is still a relatively new device, and development is probably still in its early stages; I'll definitely give those ROMs another try down the road, and see how my experience is then.
Also, I wasn't on those ROMs for too long, so maybe I just didn't allow the OS to "settle". Not sure if this is even a real thing, but I've heard other users mentioning letting a fresh install of an OS "settle" before truly making any critiques/comments.
As for OOS based ROMs, I was on stock for a very short amount of time, and I also tried xXx, both great ROMs (especially xXx). However,when you have as many features/customization options as RR has, it's hard to use anything OOS-based, especially because there is no full Substratum support (which is super important to me).
Hope this helped!
rickysidhu_ said:
My first ever Android device was a Nexus 6P, and I ran only Pure Nexus on it. I then moved to the Pixel XL, and also primarily ran Pure Nexus. After basically two years of running an AOSP based ROM, I had only good opinions on AOSP based ROMs.
Because development seemed a little tricky for Pixels, I decided to switch over to the OnePlus 5. I, then, flashed a handful of AOSP based ROMs, hoping I would receive the same stability, smoothness, and just the right amount of features Pure Nexus has.
The results didn't seem to be the same. I am by no means bashing on, hating, or criticizing any AOSP based ROM that is available for this device, but I personally just did not feel the same smoothness as I did on Pure Nexus. I decided to try LOS based ROMs, and the unofficial RR has by far been the best!
It's smooth, stable, and very snappy. There is one thing that "bugs" me though (excuse the pun lol):
The VPN icon doesn't hide, unless you disable and reenable something else in the SystemUI tuner. This workaround only lasts until you restart the phone, or even restart the SystemUI
Another thing worth noting (which isn't a bug), there are some unneeded apps that I have to manually uninstall with TitaniumBackup, such as the Music app, the file explorer, and the default phone and contacts app (among a couple others). Very small inconvenience and it's not enough to keep me away from the ROM lol.
Other than that, it's an amazing ROM, especially because it already comes with a custom kernel, and YouTube AdBlock/Background Playback!
Going back to the AOSP based ROMs, just to further reinforce that I'm not trying to bash these ROMs: OnePlus 5 is still a relatively new device, and development is probably still in its early stages; I'll definitely give those ROMs another try down the road, and see how my experience is then.
Also, I wasn't on those ROMs for too long, so maybe I just didn't allow the OS to "settle". Not sure if this is even a real thing, but I've heard other users mentioning letting a fresh install of an OS "settle" before truly making any critiques/comments.
As for OOS based ROMs, I was on stock for a very short amount of time, and I also tried xXx, both great ROMs (especially xXx). However,when you have as many features/customization options as RR has, it's hard to use anything OOS-based, especially because there is no full Substratum support (which is super important to me).
Hope this helped!
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Well elaborated. And as you know the device is very new, so hopefully custom roms will become more and more stable with time.
Thanks for sharing!
Share about your daily driver experience here. We want to hear how much you are enjoying your OP5.
I used Nexus 6p before i bought the OP5 and I think OxygenOS is one of the best roms build by a hardware building company. After some months I started to switch my kernel because I had a little bit drain and started to read in Xda what could help and now I am at my best every day use combination and it is OOS plus blu_spark it works stable and I can underclock it easily because I am a light user: Browsing, WhatsApp and Phone call sometimes Maps that's all what I need and this combo lifts my usage to 2 full days. I am not an SOT guy so the lowest Screen Off Drain is my Must Have.
MazeHei said:
I used Nexus 6p before i bought the OP5 and I think OxygenOS is one of the best roms build by a hardware building company. After some months I started to switch my kernel because I had a little bit drain and started to read in Xda what could help and now I am at my best every day use combination and it is OOS plus blu_spark it works stable and I can underclock it easily because I am a light user: Browsing, WhatsApp and Phone call sometimes Maps that's all what I need and this combo lifts my usage to 2 full days. I am not an SOT guy so the lowest Screen Off Drain is my Must Have.
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Thanks for sharing!
Just a quick update on my daily driver:
In my previous post I mentioned being on RR Unofficial, but since then I have switched to Pure Fusion!
As you know from my previous post, I'm a huge PureNexus fan and Pure Fusion is based on that, so I flashed it in a heartbeat.
That with the stock kernel has been amazing, as I feel it provides just the right amount of features I'll most likely be sticking to this ROM for as long as I own this device!
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Just a quick update on my daily driver:
In my previous post I mentioned being on RR Unofficial, but since then I have switched to Pure Fusion!
As you know from my previous post, I'm a huge PureNexus fan and Pure Fusion is based on that, so I flashed it in a heartbeat.
That with the stock kernel has been amazing, as I feel it provides just the right amount of features I'll most likely be sticking to this ROM for as long as I own this device!
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Great to hear that. How do you find Pure Fusion compared to PureNexus you used to use?
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Great to hear that. How do you find Pure Fusion compared to PureNexus you used to use?
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As far as I can tell, it's pretty much identical. The settings for the ROM have the same UI, very similar set of features; maybe just a little more than PureNexus!
It's also fast, smooth and stable like PureNexus as well
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As far as I can tell, it's pretty much identical. The settings for the ROM have the same UI, very similar set of features; maybe just a little more than PureNexus!
It's also fast, smooth and stable like PureNexus as well
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Nice! Are you using N or O? How's signal?
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Nice! Are you using N or O? How's signal?
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I'm on N as there is no O build available just yet. Signal is completely fine, but I believe there were a couple of users having issues with signal strength.
I've encountered no bugs or issues thus far. I did have random reboots but a clean flash seemed to have helped
Have had the phone for nearly 2 years now and have tried all the roms on every fourm my question is what is the best performing rom as a daily driver dont really need oreo if its slow i can settle with 7.0 just looking for a stable slimed down rom no bells or whistles just a smooth experience
Vanilla and Pure - 7.1, old no updates, no security patches
Lineage - 8.1 - really smooth, good balance. I have been using since the very first beta as daily driver. Full disclosure: i don't use netflix, any social networks (fb, twitter, instagram, snap), don't play games.
I've been trying almost every single oreo rom we can find around here and, unfortunately, it can't compete with a good old stock 7.1 rom. much better battery, much better bluetooth connection, better deep sleep, smooth experience and of course much much better overall stability. I really enjoy testing new features and new android version but, in my opinion after many desperate months of testing custom oreo roms, keeping the 7.1 stock rom (with some good tuned up kernel nonetheless) is the better choice to get the sweetest nexus 6 experience.
I'm using Pure Nexus still. Everything works and rock solid. I never get reboots, battery issues, or other problems. Actually battery has been the best for sometime. I have tried nitro which is great but I have found that Netflix causes problems. It seems to be the case with most oreo roms i have tried. I'm waiting for that one issue to correct so I can reflash.
Pure nexus is good but has added fetures im looking for a stripped down 7.1 as a daily driver love my phone dont want to upgrade just want the best performance i can squeeze out of it
You can't get closer to stock than Pure Nexus. There aren't really choices for Nougat other than the last stock release or the last Pure Nexus release.
IMHO, staying on a 7.1.1 October 2017 kernel is a mistake. The patches for serious kernel flaws do not exist for the N6 unless you go to Oreo.
I suggest Beltz which is an Oreo ROM.
However, there is a thread existing which tracks and discusses the various Oreo ROMs for the N6. ROM Repository - Info / discussion on all '30' Oreo ROMs (6.4.18)
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
The smoothest performance is to be found on the stock ROM, though you don't get bells and whistles on it. Google has taken a lot of time and effort to optimize the performance of the stock ROM. So much so that one well-known developer on XDA abandoned a ROM he created for a OnePlus phone because he couldn't even come close to meeting the performance of the stock Google device he was using for comparison.
Now, the stock ROM is not a good choice if wanting security fixes. Since the N6 is EOL it is not supposed to receive any further updates. If security fixes are important to you, then you need to be running an Android 8.1 custom ROM. Nitrogen is a good choice until real life for the Beltz developer calms down and he can resume work on Beltz.
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You can't get closer to stock than Pure Nexus. There aren't really choices for Nougat other than the last stock release or the last Pure Nexus release.
IMHO, staying on a 7.1.1 October 2017 kernel is a mistake. The patches for serious kernel flaws do not exist for the N6 unless you go to Oreo.
I suggest Beltz which is an Oreo ROM.
However, there is a thread existing which tracks and discusses the various Oreo ROMs for the N6. ROM Repository - Info / discussion on all '30' Oreo ROMs (6.4.18)
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
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Couldn't you use a Stock, rooted 7.1.1 ROM and flash a custom kernel that has security patches?
Guapo613 said:
Couldn't you use a Stock, rooted 7.1.1 ROM and flash a custom kernel that has security patches?
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Sure, are you developing one? Developers tend to move forward with the software.
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
I started running nitrogen 8.1.0 and am quite pleased with the smoothness battery life leaves a bit to be desired how would you compare beltz to nitrogen?
aosip from today is wicked fast and smooth
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aosip from today is wicked fast and smooth
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I'm experiencing some graphical glitches, screen is flickering very often for about a second or so. First it was rebooting as soon as it boots (with magisk 16.4 , with 16 it's gone but I'm not sure that's the reason).
Pretty annoying that flickering or dim for a second. Didn't touch anything, stock settings for kernel,no magisk modules.
Stevica Smederevac said:
I'm experiencing some graphical glitches, screen is flickering very often for about a second or so. First it was rebooting as soon as it boots (with magisk 16.4 , with 16 it's gone but I'm not sure that's the reason).
Pretty annoying that flickering or dim for a second. Didn't touch anything, stock settings for kernel,no magisk modules.
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So far not experienced the flickering... if there a specific set of steps or a specific app that will always cause this, so I can duplicate it?
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So far not experienced the flickering... if there a specific set of steps or a specific app that will always cause this, so I can duplicate it?
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No, just using my phone as usual and there is a split second flicker or better say dim . No way to take log or anything. It is what it is. I hate when I'm the only one with the problem
Stevica Smederevac said:
No, just using my phone as usual and there is a split second flicker or better say dim . No way to take log or anything. It is what it is. I hate when I'm the only one with the problem
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It could be something I don't use like Always on Display, night light or smart pixels.
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It could be something I don't use like Always on Display, night light or smart pixels.
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Neither do i ,just smart pixels and night light just before I go to bed but it's not that. I should try without smart pixels although I only choose 12 .
Stevica Smederevac said:
Neither do i ,just smart pixels and night light just before I go to bed but it's not that. I should try without smart pixels although I only choose 12 .
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Yeah I definitely would disable smart pixels as a test
imaGine00 said:
I've been trying almost every single oreo rom we can find around here and, unfortunately, it can't compete with a good old stock 7.1 rom. much better battery, much better bluetooth connection, better deep sleep, smooth experience and of course much much better overall stability. I really enjoy testing new features and new android version but, in my opinion after many desperate months of testing custom oreo roms, keeping the 7.1 stock rom (with some good tuned up kernel nonetheless) is the better choice to get the sweetest nexus 6 experience.
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Agreed, I have done the same and always returned to 7.12. {Resurrection remix}
I can report that standby time in nitrogen is terrible I think maybe my phone isn't dozeing whatever the matter I'm switching rooms
Like most others here, I've tried out many Oreo roms, and have every time gone back to stock rooted 7.1.2. I use the latest Franco kernel with the accompanying control app from the Play Store.
I've moved on to newer hardware, and only use my N6 for some gaming and media consumption, so having stability for me, is better than bleeding edge features like with Lin 15.x. Safety Net pass or fail doesn't bother me, my daily driver is unrooted and secured.
Current set-up: stock 7.1.2 with Franco, Xposed with Gravity Box, the latest Magisk, and BusyBox Pro to keep it all ticking.