It's one of the things that bugs me. I bought s8 plus when it came out and now you can buy it for $675, which means second hand value has plummeted. Contrast this with my iPhone 7+ which i recently sold for about $100 less than i bought it for when that came out. I think k Samsung does it on purpose as a way to make their older devices compete with newer LG, iPhone etc but it should be a consideration when purchasing.
Simple answer... because it is not an Apple. Any device that is not an Apple devalues quite fast. I noticed that Google phones hold their value quite well though. But they also only release one phone a year like apple does. Unlike other OEM's that release 2-3 phones a year. Just my opinion btw.
Because Samsung heavily discounts the devices very quickly. There are really only 3 phones should be able to hold value, Pixel, iPhone and Samsung's. If Samsung didn't make huge discounts so quick they would hold their value.
For instance look at the Pixel, Google didn't discount it and it has held well
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Not unique to Samsung. The LG V20 for example was £550 when released and now is £300 on ebay for a new device. This price drop will kill v20 prices. If you want to keep value of a commodity Android device, then buy a Vertu!
EDIT - how is this thread relevant to the Note8? Perhaps a troll thread.
Samsung devices devalue so quickly because Samsung pumps out so many phones in one year. And, they have 2 premium phones that release every year. This makes Samsung discount their newer phones after a few months, which causes the phones to devalue.
^this, supposedly they shipped 20 million S8's already... saturation!
Again, why this thread in a Note8 forum? If you can't justify cost of the Note8 then don't buy one.
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Again, why this thread in a Note8 forum? If you can't justify cost of the Note8 then don't buy one.
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This is a discussion forum. It's not a troll. Just a concern.
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This is a discussion forum. It's not a troll. Just a concern.
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This is a Note8 sub forum not a general have a go at Sammy forum. This thread should be entitled "Concern About Note8 Resale Value".
I always used to jump into the latest and pre-orde... For my s8+ Spent close to 600 $ and tied to a 2 year horrible plan...two month later they were selling it for 99 for the same plan.. Was so pissed off...
So I am going to wait it out for a few months and then get note 8...
So let it get devalued fast
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I always used to jump into the latest and pre-orde... For my s8+ Spent close to 600 $ and tied to a 2 year horrible plan...two month later they were selling it for 99 for the same plan.. Was so pissed off...
So I am going to wait it out for a few months and then get note 8...
So let it get devalued fast
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Maybe the devices lose value so quickly because they never were worth that much to begin with. Not saying they are cheap but they are taking in the dough at your expense. I mean do you think the cost price that mobile companies pay is almost a g? Only devices that sell close to cost are iphones. But iPhones bring subscribers so companies accept the cost of business.
If people didn't rush out to buy them and held on to devices longer we wouldn't see these high prices at release but we keep jumping on the hype train so we don't to ourselves.
Then the flip around is oh man it's time to upgrade, well I'm not gonna pay that much for the note but this s8 plus is close enough and cheaper. So now you get this wave of people seeing the note hype but not wanting to pay as much so you go buy the last s series.
On top of everything you guys said, the other problem about keeping value up is updates. They do not keep updating like Apple so if you buy last year's model chances are you will not get this year's Android version. I hope Note 8 continues to get updates but I won't hold my breath. For this reason I stopped buying Samsung devices, but I really want a note back.
The value of such devices is also highly linked to the country one lives. The USA always seems to get great deals.
In this country the consumer is identified as an inconvenience to the stores and not seen as their source of income.
Prices here hold very VERY well on all goods.
I only make certain purchases here that I need a fast response to if a problem arises otherwise I buy from another country.
Samsung, for instance, have given zero 'offers' to those who suffered the situation with both past iterations of the Note 7 despite great inconvenience to the customer. They simply have this attitude of 'who gives a crap about the customer'.
If I didn't need the S-pen I would be certainly buying the new LG V30. As it is Samsung have the monopoly on smart phones with a pen.
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Samsung, for instance, have given zero 'offers' to those who suffered the situation with both past iterations of the Note 7 despite great inconvenience to the customer. They simply have this attitude of 'who gives a crap about the customer'.
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If Verizon hadn't already shipped my Note 8, Samsung would have lost a customer over their poor handling of the Note 7 fiasco. After comparing the Note 8 to the V30 I had decided to cancel my pre-order but I was too late, it had already shipped. The V30 is a huge improvement over the V20 and costs so much less than the Note 8. I was also irritated at the lack of incentives for Note 7 customers other than trading in another device. I can't say without the V30 in hand but it seems to be almost identical build quality and specs for a much lower price. Better watch your back Samsung.
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On top of everything you guys said, the other problem about keeping value up is updates. They do not keep updating like Apple so if you buy last year's model chances are you will not get this year's Android version. I hope Note 8 continues to get updates but I won't hold my breath. For this reason I stopped buying Samsung devices, but I really want a note back.
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No chance of updates after 18 months after initial release. Google only require their vendors to support the Android OS updates for a short period. I agree, in that respect, Apple is better until they issue an update that takes-up too much of your memory!
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phones as well as other electronic devices are not investments.
If Verizon hadn't already shipped my Note 8, Samsung would have lost a customer over their poor handling of the Note 7 fiasco. After comparing the Note 8 to the V30 I had decided to cancel my pre-order but I was too late, it had already shipped. The V30 is a huge improvement over the V20 and costs so much less than the Note 8. I was also irritated at the lack of incentives for Note 7 customers other than trading in another device. I can't say without the V30 in hand but it seems to be almost identical build quality and specs for a much lower price. Better watch your back Samsung.
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I agree the V30 looks great. But, the V20 was selling well below MRP after 6 months. I got my dua SIM 64GB version of the V20 for only £300!! Half the price of the V30. Poor value after 6 months is what happens to most Android phones now given that ZTE and OnePlus make great value devices now.
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phones as well as other electronic devices are not investments.
If Verizon hadn't already shipped my Note 8, Samsung would have lost a customer over their poor handling of the Note 7 fiasco. After comparing the Note 8 to the V30 I had decided to cancel my pre-order but I was too late, it had already shipped. The V30 is a huge improvement over the V20 and costs so much less than the Note 8. I was also irritated at the lack of incentives for Note 7 customers other than trading in another device. I can't say without the V30 in hand but it seems to be almost identical build quality and specs for a much lower price. Better watch your back Samsung.
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I entirely agree with your first sentence.
You mention your Note 8 has "Shipped"!? I was under the impression we would not receive the Note 8 until at least the 15th of this month. In this country I will be very fortunate to see it until October!
You can always refuse delivery and get your money back.
To me the V30 is strong opposition and competition for the SGS8 not the Note 8, they are two different animals.
If we think about the comparisons being downloaded on Youtube so many compare the note 8 with the fruity iPhone 7? they is zero comparison as they are two two different devices. The iPhone 7 (if one MUST make a comparison) could be debated along side the SGS8 but even then the differences in cost, OS and so many other factors make such comparisons rather false.
So many are waiting to compare the iPhone 8 with the Note 8? Why? If one wants to pay 1200€ for a mobile running IOS then buy the fruity brand, its going to be a superb mobile but unless it comes with a pen and Android ........I am off topic, sorry.
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You mention your Note 8 has "Shipped"!? I was under the impression we would not receive the Note 8 until at least the 15th of this month. In this country I will be very fortunate to see it until October!
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Supposed to arrive Tuesday, Sept 5
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Supposed to arrive Tuesday, Sept 5
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Please don't answer if you feel it inappropriate. What country are you in? You lucky chap. :good:
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Please don't answer if you feel it inappropriate. What country are you in? You lucky chap. :good:
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US West coast
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On the 5th. That's tomorrow! You lucky devil. :good::good::good:
If you want the LG V30 can't you simply refuse delivery of the Note 8 at the door and get a full refund?
With the exception of the fruity brand we have up to 20 days to accept or reject a purchase with or without reason. I assume you have similar protection in the USA? Don't ask how the fruity brand avoid this, once one opens that plastic wrap consider the iPhone yours! There is even a notice in the stores by the fruity brand stand stating this. Grrrr.
I hope things work out for you there is nothing worse than buyers remorse especially at these prices. Let us know what you do in the end.
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Why do we have to endure weeks of waiting for the release of a new Samsung device when it has been announced? All those people at the unpacked event waving the Note 4 and Edge around on stage or within the experience stands make me jealous but also make me angry.
I never see why the phones/devices cannot be on the shelves within a week of an announcement for contract free purchases. I understand there might be negotiations with carriers but why stop those with the cash in their hands?
I also would love to know who decides on which country gets a certain device and when.
Samsung is particularly bad at this. They drag their heels with pricing, release dates and availability. Surely this can be all in place prior to their events.
It's not wrong, you're right!
Apple does very well
I know. How long does it take to mole the circuit board, etc?
Its potential for cash cow. People say Oct 5th for T-mobile. Thats 4 weeks too long.
This is one thing Apple actually does very well. Release date generally follows announcement by less than 2 weeks. Pre-orders start just a few days after the announcement.
It is very annoying. I wish they'd just wait to announce until they're closer to release. Who cares if it leaks during production? Samsung isn't as bad as LG tho, they are terrible.
This article is another reason why the wait is irritating. http://www.gsmarena.com/nvidia_files_a_patent_lawsuit_against_samsung_and_qualcomm-news-9564.php
Samsung is terrible at this. Apple has almost always released within earshot knowing the hypetrain is still there. By the time Note 4 arrives iPhone6 will be on shelves. Noone outside the geekworld is hyped about a Note 4. Even casuals know a new and bigger iPhone are coming. After the S5 dissaponting sales you'd think Samsung would pull out all stops.
Shame, they could be taking advantage of the earlier announcement over apple but they're going to just let apple rake in the earlier pre orders.
for one, it's pretty obvious they need time to produce hundreds of thousands of them first., on top of that, each carrier needs time to receive the units and to do their own testing and get samsung to load things on to them, firmware,modems,etc..
surely if they were available right after announced that would mean the device was already in productions many weeks prior and shipped/stocked at all retailers before hand.. this wouldn't make sense..
this is just standard on all electronic and if you ever bought any other piece of electronic in the past, you would have known this is normal practice to announce and then begin shipping out to retailers.
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Shame, they could be taking advantage of the earlier announcement over apple but they're going to just let apple rake in the earlier pre orders.
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preorders are already open on the sprint website and have been for a couple days http://www.sprint.com/landings/samsung_note4/index.html?ECID=vanity:galaxynote4
blame the carrier if yours isn't available for preorder yet.
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for one, it's pretty obvious they need time to produce hundreds of thousands of them first., on top of that, each carrier needs time to receive the units and to do their own testing and get samsung to load things on to them, firmware,modems,etc..
surely if they were available right after announced that would mean the device was already in productions many weeks prior and shipped/stocked at all retailers before hand.. this wouldn't make sense..
this is just standard on all electronic and if you ever bought any other piece of electronic in the past, you would have known this is normal practice to announce and then begin shipping out to retailers.
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Well I already stated that I understood why there was a delay for carrier testing but I am talking about those who wish to buy outright. And if Apple and HTC can get their stock out shortly after announcements then why can't Samsung? Saying this is normal practice does not make it acceptable.
The devices shown at the launch were not prototypes, the production process has already begun and could have been stepped up prior to the launch.
Also, it still does not answer the question on pricing, release dates and country availability (for carrier free devices) these things need to be finalised before launch or very shortly after. In my opinion it's all just a tactic to build up some sort of hype
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Preorder is not the same thing. I only see registration for email alert. Same as T-mobile.
I find it strange that Cellphone carriers do not even concentrate in advertizing for the release of the Note 4.
This is why its nice not having carriers mess and install a bunch of bloat. I don't think carriers mess around with iPhones and install their software on it, so less time wasted on things you don't need or care about. Just get the product out and sell it.
Anyways, just poor planning really, a month is a long time in the tech world and consumer electronic hype wears off fairly fast when something else new and shiny comes out in between then.
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Saying this is normal practice does not make it acceptable.
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People love hyperbole I guess. If it is 'unacceptable' to you then buy an iPhone or HTC product.
Samsung can release its phone any dang time they feel like it - that's their business. If you don't like it, you can not buy it - that's your business.
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People love hyperbole I guess. If it is 'unacceptable' to you then buy an iPhone or HTC product.
Samsung can release its phone any dang time they feel like it - that's their business. If you don't like it, you can not buy it - that's your business.
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Well duh.. Thanks for explaining that, I feel so enlightened now.
My point of this post is for debate as to why it happens. We the consumers are entitled to complain. I am looking for logical answers not "If you don't like it buy something else" it's not bringing much to the table.
Thats why i am getting the Iphone 6 over the Note 4, it'll be available sooner and i need a high end phone bad. Good thing is ill be able to sell the iphone 6 at a great price and pick up the note 4 when its out.
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Well duh.. Thanks for explaining that, I feel so enlightened now.
My point of this post is for debate as to why it happens. We the consumers are entitled to complain. I am looking for logical answers not "If you don't like it buy something else" it's not bringing much to the table.
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There is no answer other than that is how samsung chooses to do it.
Could they hold the announcement closer to the physical release? Yes, of course they could. They just prefer to do it this way, for whatever marketing reason.
If the marketing people thought it was strategic to announce closer to physical release, they would. But clearly they don't.
If Samsung "should" copy something apple does, its their method of announcing and SHIPPING a product very quickly post launch. That is their only major issue. Why allow other OEM's to get product out the door and lose sales and yes they do lose sales and now that apple is going big and bigger on their phones next week with a launch before the Note 4 hits stores that is a big deal and some would be Note 4 buyers will get a 5.5" iphone instead, (dumb move, but it's their choice).
I fully agree with the OP and carriers are very likely the issue. Negotiations would likely have been done already, in the US anyways its likely more about last minute bloatware and who has a "bigger" tower than anything else.
I blame Verizon, for everything lol.
Apple has more control over the carriers.
Apple has more control over the carriers and the supply chain, that is why their rollouts are quicker.
iPhone 6 on the 19th
I thought this thread would be exploding with comments about how Apple can do it in less than 2 weeks.
Anything over 30 days is crazy. The battery life on my Note 2 fading away, I've been eligible for an upgrade for months.
Now that I know the specifics of the Note 4 it has given my a chance to look at other phones S5, G3, M8 or wait for Nexus X.
The longer I wait the less likely that I'll make an 'impulse buy' I'm still excited about the Note 4 but I'm weighting the cost vs features.
What's up with the pre order pages on Samsung.com and Sprint.com? Did I actually pretty order or was it just an email notification? I didn't even receive an email confirmation.
I have noticed a general lack of advertisement for the Note 4, and I am not sure why. I find that very strange that Phone carriers do not place any effort in advertising the Note 4 at all.
I just checked the sprint website, and noticed the big ad for the IPhone 6, but nothing for the Note 4.
T-Mobile, Verizon, MetroPCS? Same thing. Yet, except for MetroPCS, they all have an add for the IPhone 6.
Only ATT has an ad on the fifth slide about the Note 4.
Why would these carriers not advertise the Note 4?
I noticed the same behavior last year
It's all G3 and iPhone. Samsung needs to give the dollars to the carriers for them to bother. That is mainly how it works. The issue is more on Samsung than the carriers.
T-mobile had a slide up for it a few days ago, leading to a pre-registration page. Maybe it was replaced by the iPhone slide.
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people that buy note 4 dont need advertising. people that buy that big of a phone go in looking for it
How can they advertise when nobody seems to have a price or shipping date for these phones? The iPhone 6 already sold millions from pre-orders and we still don't have a clue what's going on with the note 4. ?
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How can they advertise when nobody seems to have a price or shipping date for these phones? The iPhone 6 already sold millions from pre-orders and we still don't have a clue what's going on with the note 4. ?
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Good point, that's what I was thinking. The main thing they would want to advertise is pricing and release date, and nobody has either yet. I think Samsung has really screwed the pooch on this release.
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people that buy note 4 dont need advertising. people that buy that big of a phone go in looking for it
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thats a good point, but hard to believe a corp like sammy wouldn't be at least running some ads for their flagship phone...Although maybe they are the type of company that waits until the product is actually released before they start their marketing activities..
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thats a good point, but hard to believe a corp like sammy wouldn't be at least running some ads for their flagship phone...Although maybe they are the type of company that waits until the product is actually released before they start their marketing activities..
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Apple likes to advertise like crazy and if i recall correctly samsung had a big ad push for the S5 because it was more of a phone to compete with the iphone. Now i dont know. i think samsung would ran an ad to make fun of the iphone 6+ but you could right they could wait until its out like you said. I just dont see it as their top tier phone. most people will take s5 over note 4 due to size.
and btw i love your sig hahaha and i agree 100%!
I always forget about the S5, but I guess you're right, more people want a phone than want something with a stylus..
I rarely use the stylus, but the S5 had so many so-so reviews, thats why I had no interest in one.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the fan base of the note series is alot stronger on xda than the S4/S5 fan base was/is..
Who knows for sure; all I know is once the note 4 hits, its will be the most popular, "new" android phone out there, more so than a Z3, G3, or whatever else might come out in the next month or so..
Samsung has always done terrible with the release of the Note Series phones. When the Note 2 came out, I got it on launch day from T-Mobile. There were absolutely 0 accessories. When the Note 3 came out, I contacted Sprint to see when they were going to carry it, and 2 of the 3 stores in my area didn't even know the phone was releasing that day, so I bought it outright from Best Buy. Again, they had 0 accessories for it. The S series launches are the only ones that appear to get any attention.
Talk about advertising, I checked out the Verge on both the iPhone's launch day and Samsung's launch day event at IFA. Talk about free advertising and extremely lopsided press coverage. The Verge's site was nothing but apple stories how about 30-40 at least (no joke) and I was lucky to scroll back 30 pages to the IFA announcement and found may 4-5 for Samsung. That is not even remotely even press.
I think the lack of information about availability and nebulous delivery dates has shifted the carrier interest to apple who has product coming in and is giving customers actual ship dates next week. Apple has left samsung in the dust as this point. I wanted a 32 gig gs 5 and the note 4 is too big and will be very late I think so I will get a 128 iPhone 6 plus and I hate apple but Sammy has jumped the shark.
My country (ad signs) :
iPhone: Everywhere, like EVERYWHERE
G3: only one carrier
Samsung which isn't Note: Everywhere
Note: ....
iPhone wins in this regard.
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I think the lack of information about availability and nebulous delivery dates has shifted the carrier interest to apple who has product coming in and is giving customers actual ship dates next week. Apple has left samsung in the dust as this point. I wanted a 32 gig gs 5 and the note 4 is too big and will be very late I think so I will get a 128 iPhone 6 plus and I hate apple but Sammy has jumped the shark.
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If you wanted a 32GB S5, why didn't you just buy a microSD card and insert it into the phone[emoji15]? I don't see that as a reason to go to the iPhone.
Remember Remember the note 4 doesn't come out until some time next month while the iPhone launches next week so of course iphone has all the advertisement and coverage.
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I think the lack of information about availability and nebulous delivery dates has shifted the carrier interest to apple who has product coming in and is giving customers actual ship dates next week. Apple has left samsung in the dust as this point. I wanted a 32 gig gs 5 and the note 4 is too big and will be very late I think so I will get a 128 iPhone 6 plus and I hate apple but Sammy has jumped the shark.
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You may have a tough time locating a 6 plus the first couple of weeks, inventory is constrained.. iphone 6 on the other hand... I think apple went HAM on making these
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It's all G3 and iPhone. Samsung needs to give the dollars to the carriers for them to bother. That is mainly how it works. The issue is more on Samsung than the carriers.
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That's based on zero fact. If any company out there spend money on advertising or anything else it is definitely Samsung. But right now it's all eyes on the iPhone so that's what the carriers are pushing. In 2-3 weeks they will advertise the note.
Once the iPhone 6 comes in and people realize it's the same crap in a new case, Samsung will launch the Note 4 and give many people buyers remorse. Samsung says "let Apple have its day, then we'll continue to kick it's ass".
It was exactly the same here with the Note 3
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In 2-3 weeks they will advertise the note.
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That didn't happen for the Notes 1-3, why do you think it will happen for the Note 4?
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That didn't happen for the Notes 1-3, why do you think it will happen for the Note 4?
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It didnt happen with the first note but it did happen with 2 and 3.
Does anyone know the current Note 5 sales figures / volume / number?
The closest thing I could find is a comparison of its sales compared to the Note 6+ Edge but no concrete numbers.
I wonder if Samsung is keeping silent on the numbers because sales are disappointing?
If sales were record-breaking, I'm sure they would market it and love to throw it in Apple's face.
I'd like to know, too. the new iPhone sales and availability has been crazy than what I remember with the Note5 after release.
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I have heard the Note 5 sales were hurt because they did not offer it in Europe (yet).
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I have heard the Note 5 sales were hurt because they did not offer it in Europe (yet).
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I can see that happening
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I have heard the Note 5 sales were hurt because they did not offer it in Europe (yet).
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Why was it not offered in Europe?
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Why was it not offered in Europe?
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We may never know the real reasons. Officially, it was said Europeans are not that fond of a stylus and they would prefer the Edge+. I do remember, after a rather modest commercial start, the first Note got its success in great part from the European market.
When Apple finally announces a stylus for their iPad after explaining it was useless and after adopting the Note format they said was not a niche, I simply don't understand the strategy of Samsung.
However, rumors meet for an European version very soon.
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We may never know the real reasons. Officially, it was said Europeans are not that fond of a stylus and they would prefer the Edge+. I do remember, after a rather modest commercial start, the first Note got its success in great part from the European market.
When Apple finally announces a stylus for their iPad after explaining it was useless and after adopting the Note format they said was not a niche, I simply don't understand the strategy of Samsung.
However, rumors meet for an European version very soon.
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Samsung needs some confidence and direction. Stop trying to copy Apple. Apple sucks.
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Samsung needs some confidence and direction. Stop trying to copy Apple. Apple sucks.
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Ha ha ha. I totally agree about the whole apple thing. Samsung should have called their new note the inote 5. Lol
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Why was it not offered in Europe?
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I just saw an announcement it will be for sale in europe in Jan '16
let's wait till December to get a good figure...
http://www.cnet.com/news/samsungs-smartphone-shipments-to-see-first-ever-annual-decline/
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We may never know the real reasons. Officially, it was said Europeans are not that fond of a stylus and they would prefer the Edge+. I do remember, after a rather modest commercial start, the first Note got its success in great part from the European market.
When Apple finally announces a stylus for their iPad after explaining it was useless and after adopting the Note format they said was not a niche, I simply don't understand the strategy of Samsung.
However, rumors meet for an European version very soon.
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As a European resident i'd find it more likely we don't want to be fooled be Samsung in giving us an inferior Note.
Just look at the previous iterations. Especially the 1, 2 and 3. They were by FAR the best/fastest/most loaded smartphones out at the time.
The current Note 5 is just an S6 edge plus with a pen (and acompaniing apps).
And im (as a note fan) completly disgusted by this...
Obviously if you don't like the note 5, then don't buy it. No need to be 'disgusted'.
It is just a phone...
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As a European resident i'd find it more likely we don't want to be fooled be Samsung in giving us an inferior Note.
Just look at the previous iterations. Especially the 1, 2 and 3. They were by FAR the best/fastest/most loaded smartphones out at the time.
The current Note 5 is just an S6 edge plus with a pen (and acompaniing apps).
And im (as a note fan) completly disgusted by this...
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As some one who actually owns the phone, it's night and day faster than my Note 4.
The fact the edge plus and note 5 are very similar disgusts you? I need your life if that's all it takes to disgust you.
Some of you guys need to think more like consumers and less like scorned fanboys expecting special treatment because once you defended the honor of TouchWiz in a comment thread of and apple product.
Also how is Samsung trying to be like apple?
There was mention that sales were hurting because they opted to not offer the note 5 in Europe. What is being ignored is while they are missing out on sales in Europe, they are also not paying to manufacture, advertise, and ship to Europe. So looking at units sold compared to last year and not actually looking at the bottom line is kind of short sighted and looks to be bias confirmation for some people.
Not saying sales will be better but for the sake of discussion look at the whole picture.
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As some one who actually owns the phone, it's night and day faster than my Note 4.
The fact the edge plus and note 5 are very similar disgusts you? I need your life if that's all it takes to disgust you.
Some of you guys need to think more like consumers and less like scorned fanboys expecting special treatment because once you defended the honor of TouchWiz in a comment thread of and apple product.
Also how is Samsung trying to be like apple?
There was mention that sales were hurting because they opted to not offer the note 5 in Europe. What is being ignored is while they are missing out on sales in Europe, they are also not paying to manufacture, advertise, and ship to Europe. So looking at units sold compared to last year and not actually looking at the bottom line is kind of short sighted and looks to be bias confirmation for some people.
Not saying sales will be better but for the sake of discussion look at the whole picture.
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Wow, you make assumptions like you're a pro. Too bad they're wrong.
It's disgusting that their flagship line of products are now the same as the mass-consumer product.
But i understand if you don't get it tho. Understanding what people mean can be hard sometimes.
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Wow, you make assumptions like you're a pro. Too bad they're wrong.
It's disgusting that their flagship line of products are now the same as the mass-consumer product.
But i understand if you don't get it tho. Understanding what people mean can be hard sometimes.
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Lol so you are telling me that the Galaxy S6 isn't a flagship but a "mass-consumer product"? And it disgusts you that they used the same internals in the Note. LOL here we go..
First, before the Note Series existed, the S series was and is the defacto "flagship for Samsung". Keep in mind the Note started as a very niche product never intended to reach the number of sales that their flagship S Series did.
Do yourself a favor and search "Samsung flag ship" in google.. better yet let me do it for you:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Samsung+Flag+Ship
Please tell me what device occupies the majority of those results. I know this is simple but Im sure its more logic than you put into your response as an over privileged consumer elitist that can't be bothered with less than "flagship" quality..
Now that we have defined loosely what a "flagship" device is lets look at your reason for disgust. You're mad because a publicly traded company decided to save some money by not designing a whole new chipset and used one that exists and works. Not to mention that same disgustingly mediocre chip set is night and day faster than the last Note and killing it with a smaller battery.. Everything is faster, every, thing.. Some people will never be happy and swear the internet was created to gripe about the smallest things..
Also yes it is very hard to understand someone that attempts to articulate their confirmatory bias with ambiguous hype terms like "flagship" and "mass-consumer product". The hilarious thing is you think those two terms are not homogeneous in this use case.. :good:
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There was mention that sales were hurting because they opted to not offer the note 5 in Europe. What is being ignored is while they are missing out on sales in Europe, they are also not paying to manufacture, advertise, and ship to Europe. S
Not saying sales will be better but for the sake of discussion look at the whole picture.
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That's a good point indeed. May be they should save even more bucks by not paying to manufacture, advertise, and ship to the whole world.
I love music and books with a long commute to and from work when I want media on my phone.
I could live with a fixed battery but microSD is a must. I know other real users in a similar situation and it is with sadness that the Samsung phones can no longer meet my needs.
At the launch event a statement was made that Samsung listened to their users....... I have to question that statement.
I hope the next phones reintroduce SD support if I can wait that long........
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I love music and books with a long commute to and from work when I want media on my phone.
I could live with a fixed battery but microSD is a must. I know other real users in a similar situation and it is with sadness that the Samsung phones can no longer meet my needs.
At the launch event a statement was made that Samsung listened to their users....... I have to question that statement.
I hope the next phones reintroduce SD support if I can wait that long........
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Just flew 6 hours from California to Maryland. Didn't have an issue storing enough music/podcasts on my device. Barely listened to half of it. A commute longer than that?
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Just flew 6 hours from California to Maryland. Didn't have an issue storing enough music/podcasts on my device. Barely listened to half of it. A commute longer than that?
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The point is that people take Pictures and Videos. Over time, that takes up more and more storage, especially with quality and megapixels going up.
I have 60gb just in pictures and videos from the past 4+years. Just because people get new phones every 2 years doesn't mean they delete their old photo albums and start fresh. All those old memories pile up..
32gb on a phone isn't going to cut it. And I don't want to delete my old memories or upload them to the cloud and have to pay a monthly fee just to access them when I can buy a 128gb micro SD card for $45. Plus, I don't have to worry about having a solid LTE Signal. Plus, I can access a memory card in places where I get no service at all, like on a cruise ship or in a foreign country.
I need a swappable battery. I'm at Disney World and almost every here is walking around with their phones shackled to an external battery charger. It's so much easier to just carry a thin spare. It takes <30 seconds to swap and go from 0% to 100%.
Ok. You need those things, so you will need to buy a different phone...
Not everyone has the same needs, and samsung isn't designing the phone to meet everyone's needs - they are designing it to meet what they think the majority needs are and will sell.
It ok get a different phone. That's why they make different phones...
Is like being mad that you can only fit 5 people in a sedan, because got need to fit 7...
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I got my Note 8 last year through Best Buy with Verizon, and there was a sweet promotion that pretty much rendered my Note 8 to only cost $306 by the end of my two year device payment plan. It's my main phone use of today.
About 3 weeks ago, I found someone selling a Galaxy S8+ of a few month's use with LOTS of charging accessories for only $200! I went to pick that up because it was such a steal and it would be cool to have a backup phone to say the least.
So now it's the month of August, and Best Buy awarded me a 10% off coupon on select items. Apparently, it works for the Note9! And the trade in they're offering is $450 for an S8+/Note8 towards the new Note9. So $100 off + $450 = $550 off a $1000 smartphone! And if I am able to sell the AKG headphones, this new phone is practically a few hundred dollars!
But then I'm thinking to myself...is it really worth it to switch to the Note 9 as my main? I can sell away my Note8 for extra money back in this overall "dilemma" and I'll just continue to make payments as if nothing happened because I doubt Verizon will know whether I have the phone on hand or not. lol
What do you guys think? I have until Thursday evening to jump in on this. Is this worth it for the amazing deal I've found here?
Some speculation, but the terms on the Best Buy trade-in offer mention it's via a gift card and coupon. I'm not familiar with how Best Buy applies coupons, but it could be that the two coupons might not stack if this is the case... unsure. Otherwise, I think it's a decent deal, yes.
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Some speculation, but the terms on the Best Buy trade-in offer mention it's via a gift card and coupon. I'm not familiar with how Best Buy applies coupons, but it could be that the two coupons might not stack if this is the case... unsure. Otherwise, I think it's a decent deal, yes.
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I was on chat with a Best Buy representative last night for an hour to verify everything, and he told me to keep screenshots and come into the store to place the order while having them process the trade in so it would all work.
A Note 9 for sub $600.00 is worth it, just from a math perspective.
Here is the breakdown you provided. You paid $350(Note 8) + $200(S8+) = $550 All-in.
If you got the Note 9 it would breakdown $1000(Note 9) - ($100(coupon)-$350(S8 Trade In))=$550 for a Note 9; if you sell your Note 8 for more than $550 you profit.
If not you still win because the most you will have spent for 2 banging phones is $900.
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A Note 9 for sub $600.00 is worth it, just from a math perspective.
Here is the breakdown you provided. You paid $350(Note 8) + $200(S8+) = $550 All-in.
If you got the Note 9 it would breakdown $1000(Note 9) - ($100(coupon)-$350(S8 Trade In))=$550 for a Note 9; if you sell your Note 8 for more than $550 you profit.
If not you still win because the most you will have spent for 2 banging phones is $900.
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Oh uh, the Best Buy deal only allowed one trade in device, so it would be the S8+. That phone is eligible for $450 towards the Note 9. The birthday coupon takes off 10% from the regular price, so that's $100. That's how it came to be 550 off the phone. The Note 8 could just sit with me or I can sell it either way. Hehe
Of course it's a great deal! This phone is substantially better than the Note8 in my opinion (as a Note8 user/lover), if nothing else just for the battery! Although there is a lot more I am excited about (pen with BT for photos, more storage, more RAM, new color, contrast with signature ink, improved camera, stereo speakers, etc.).
I'm not 100% sure how it works, but you may have to pay off Verizon for the Note8 though. I thought I had heard that if you try and buy a phone that has not been paid off, it won't work. In other words, you could not sell your Note8 and have the other person stick their SIM in it. I could be mistaken, but I would look into it!
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Of course it's a great deal! This phone is substantially better than the Note8 in my opinion (as a Note8 user/lover), if nothing else just for the battery! Although there is a lot more I am excited about (pen with BT for photos, more storage, more RAM, new color, contrast with signature ink, improved camera, stereo speakers, etc.).
I'm not 100% sure how it works, but you may have to pay off Verizon for the Note8 though. I thought I had heard that if you try and buy a phone that has not been paid off, it won't work. In other words, you could not sell your Note8 and have the other person stick their SIM in it. I could be mistaken, but I would look into it!
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Nice to hear from a fellow Note8 user. I was debating about if it is really worth it, but I would really like a fatter battery for sure!
I'm not going to do anything to hand over the Note 8 though, so passing up the S8+ is my full intentions.
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Nice to hear from a fellow Note8 user. I was debating about if it is really worth it, but I would really like a fatter battery for sure!
I'm not going to do anything to hand over the Note 8 though, so passing up the S8+ is my full intentions.
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I actually also have an Orchid Gray Verizon model. It is easily my favorite phone that I've ever had. The ONLY things keeping it from perfection (in my opinion) are: (1) battery size, (2) lack of stereo speakers, (3) fingerprint scanner annoyance. Those have all been fixed (along with the obvious processor upgrade and camera upgrade and pen upgrade), so I am 100% positive this will be a dream phone for me. There are literally no other phones I even care about or am jealous of (I often get phone envy...). This thing is going to be amazing, which is why I splurged and got the 512GB model to make it the ultimate dream phone, future-proof phone (in case I keep it for a long time!).
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I actually also have an Orchid Gray Verizon model. It is easily my favorite phone that I've ever had. The ONLY things keeping it from perfection (in my opinion) are: (1) battery size, (2) lack of stereo speakers, (3) fingerprint scanner annoyance. Those have all been fixed (along with the obvious processor upgrade and camera upgrade and pen upgrade), so I am 100% positive this will be a dream phone for me. There are literally no other phones I even care about or am jealous of (I often get phone envy...). This thing is going to be amazing, which is why I splurged and got the 512GB model to make it the ultimate dream phone, future-proof phone (in case I keep it for a long time!).
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I think I'm going to do it, just hoping I won't get screwed over in store saying it can't be applied even though it shows it for me online.
I loved my note8 until it was stolen...
Anyway, I pre-ordered from Samsung. I drove over to Costco and they are giving away some type of $70.00 charging kit with your purchase but you must finance the phone which means a query to your credit report. For some reason you can't just purchase the phone outright.
Bestbuy did not have any deals on this phone. I spoke with their Samsung rep who demoed the BT from the other side of the store and took photos... Pretty damned amazing!
B&H Photo/Video has a pretty nice deal but I didn't see any way to trade in your old phone with them. + they are charging you NYC Tax which is pretty damned high!
Anyone know where the best deal is on this phone? For now, I'll stick with my order from Samsung's website. They still haven't charged my CC as of this time which makes me think that maybe I won't be getting my phone on Friday. UGH! Since my Note 8 was stolen, I've been without a phone for the past month and it's been a pretty damned painful month but I survived .
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I loved my note8 until it was stolen...
Anyway, I pre-ordered from Samsung. I drove over to Costco and they are giving away some type of $70.00 charging kit with your purchase but you must finance the phone which means a query to your credit report. For some reason you can't just purchase the phone outright.
Bestbuy did not have any deals on this phone. I spoke with their Samsung rep who demoed the BT from the other side of the store and took photos... Pretty damned amazing!
B&H Photo/Video has a pretty nice deal but I didn't see any way to trade in your old phone with them. + they are charging you NYC Tax which is pretty damned high!
Anyone know where the best deal is on this phone? For now, I'll stick with my order from Samsung's website. They still haven't charged my CC as of this time which makes me think that maybe I won't be getting my phone on Friday. UGH! Since my Note 8 was stolen, I've been without a phone for the past month and it's been a pretty damned painful month but I survived .
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Where are you located? The deals I'm trying to take advantage of is available through Best Buy themselves.
How did your phone get stolen? You can't track it?
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Where are you located? The deals I'm trying to take advantage of is available through Best Buy themselves.
How did your phone get stolen? You can't track it?
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I tracked it then they turned it off. From here, I went online and hopefully deleted all of my stuff that was on there. Unfortunately, my micro-SD Card was not encrypted so if you see me on Redtube be forewarned, it might not be pretty...
I went into a local BestBuy store. The sales guy didn't have 1 deal for me other than what was already on the Samsung website.
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I got my Note 8 last year through Best Buy with Verizon, and there was a sweet promotion that pretty much rendered my Note 8 to only cost $306 by the end of my two year device payment plan. It's my main phone use of today.
About 3 weeks ago, I found someone selling a Galaxy S8+ of a few month's use with LOTS of charging accessories for only $200! I went to pick that up because it was such a steal and it would be cool to have a backup phone to say the least.
So now it's the month of August, and Best Buy awarded me a 10% off coupon on select items. Apparently, it works for the Note9! And the trade in they're offering is $450 for an S8+/Note8 towards the new Note9. So $100 off + $450 = $550 off a $1000 smartphone! And if I am able to sell the AKG headphones, this new phone is practically a few hundred dollars!
But then I'm thinking to myself...is it really worth it to switch to the Note 9 as my main? I can sell away my Note8 for extra money back in this overall "dilemma" and I'll just continue to make payments as if nothing happened because I doubt Verizon will know whether I have the phone on hand or not. lol
What do you guys think? I have until Thursday evening to jump in on this. Is this worth it for the amazing deal I've found here?
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I have written this before and will write it again. You guys and gals in the USA are spoiled with Smart phones. The deals you get are amazing. No such deals exist in Southern Europe in fact I may add the whole of Europe.
In this country we have to pay top price for smart phones.
My note 7 (both of them) came with nothing. S8+ came with nothing, Note 8 came two months later with a DEX. This time after numerous complaints to Samsung in this country we managed the amazing deal of trading in our 12 month old Note 8 costing 1,020.00€ for the Note 9 costing 1,030.00€. We got 500.00€ deducted. Never known such a deal and probably never will again! :highfive:
In your case you should jump at such an offer. :good:
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Alright, just to update:
I went to my local Best Buy to do the whole process in store, and the employee helping me was confused at my coupon code working for the unlocked Note 9. He called the manager and 2 other employees came and huddled up to see what was going on. They were calling me out about the Unlocked Phones being in their exclusion list, but I told them it worked in my Cart online, and showed them all the screens and from the app. Then I told them to try using the code on another unlocked phone they have available in store that was regular priced. They pulled out a Galaxy J7 phone that was $220, applied the code.....BAM! $22 SAVINGS! THE CODE WORKED!
The reaction on all their faces were priceless! So I go ahead and placed my order for pickup, and they processed the S8+ I had on have for $450. Now I just have to wait for tomorrow to pick up!
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Alright, just to update:
I went to my local Best Buy to do the whole process in store, and the employee helping me was confused at my coupon code working for the unlocked Note 9. He called the manager and 2 other employees came and huddled up to see what was going on. They were calling me out about the Unlocked Phones being in their exclusion list, but I told them it worked in my Cart online, and showed them all the screens and from the app. Then I told them to try using the code on another unlocked phone they have available in store that was regular priced. They pulled out a Galaxy J7 phone that was $220, applied the code.....BAM! $22 SAVINGS! THE CODE WORKED!
The reaction on all their faces were priceless! So I go ahead and placed my order for pickup, and they processed the S8+ I had on have for $450. Now I just have to wait for tomorrow to pick up!
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That's awesome! I feel like BB always tries to screw people over and limit deals, so I am happy to hear you won the battle!
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That's awesome! I feel like BB always tries to screw people over and limit deals, so I am happy to hear you won the battle!
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The taste of victory is pretty sweet! ?
And I asked them about my Note8 currently being in a device payment plan. Really, I could still sell the phone for profit and still continue paying it off at the end of the two years because it's easy to just switch Sims and just go on with your day.
My Best Buy order switched to "Ready for Pickup" today, so excitedly, I drove into the store to, you know, Pickup my phone.
However, they said I wasn't able to pickup until tomorrow. Kinda frustrating to say the least.
Too early to believe, but Samsung Opera House(Bengaluru) has started taking blind prebooking for the Galaxy S21 series already as per THIS article.
Unsurprisingly India would get the Exynos 2100 SoC in this series and I just hope it performs on par with Snapdragon 888.
Why would they make the screen smaller for the s21 ultra than the existing one ? No one seems to have mentioned this.
yeah its only .100" smaller, too me that`s not a big thing for me, but the thing is it will have the LTPO display which I guess is supposed to give better contrast to black colors, also I`m not sure but i have heard talk of the fingerprint reader being 2x faster...... so well see, I`ll be ordering one in the unlocked in black the 512gb version
In the USA you can register for your S21 in the Samsung Shop app. Looks like you get an extra $70 store credit for registering. Can't wait to get the S21 ultra!
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In the USA you can register for your S21 in the Samsung Shop app. Looks like you get an extra $70 store credit for registering. Can't wait to get the S21 ultra!
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The thing I like about Samsung out here in India is that with perks of cashbacks & coupons(if prebooked) the pricing becomes eqivalent to the USA pricing(has been so far) ..
I'm finding the news [email protected] S21 series interesting too. Will get "Exynos" but highly it feels like it would be on par this time around, if not better, excluding the GPU.
I seriously hope the LTPO on the S21 series is far more superior to the one on Note 20U.
I had serious banding/green tint issues and a horrible battery drain problem due to it. The 60fps video recording also had hunting issues even with laser auto focus.
I'm back to S20U, the display feels a lot more stable and a long lasting battery.
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yeah its only .100" smaller, too me that`s not a big thing for me, but the thing is it will have the LTPO display which I guess is supposed to give better contrast to black colors, also I`m not sure but i have heard talk of the fingerprint reader being 2x faster...... so well see, I`ll be ordering one in the unlocked in black the 512gb version
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We're coming from S10+ getting the Ultra cause of the specs and my husband likes the camera features. It'll probably be to big for me but I am getting it. We won't upgrade for a while so I want the best of the bunch.
Do you think there will be any discounts with pricing if you don't trade in? I have a S9+ right now and am waffling back and forth between getting the S21 Ultra or getting a Note 20 Ultra ($800 thru work).
Have pre-reserved for S21 series because I thought we'd get the Buds Pro and Smart tag as preorder offers alongwith the free case. That is what the leakers had said a few days back but not it seems Buds Pro won't be part of the offer. Also coupled with missing charger and possible missing SD card and extra charges for SPen, will it be worth spending so much extra to sell my Note 20 U for the S21U?
P.S. The only reason I was willing to upgrade was because my Note 20 U is getting heated up a lot + because of the Exynos 2100 finally catching up to SD.
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Have pre-reserved for S21 series because I thought we'd get the Buds Pro and Smart tag as preorder offers alongwith the free case. That is what the leakers had said a few days back but not it seems Buds Pro won't be part of the offer. Also coupled with missing charger and possible missing SD card and extra charges for SPen, will it be worth spending so much extra to sell my Note 20 U for the S21U?
P.S. The only reason I was willing to upgrade was because my Note 20 U is getting heated up a lot + because of the Exynos 2100 finally catching up to SD.
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You got the VIP pass for the next Galaxy after you pre reserved it?
In India prebooking is of no use, last time for the Note 20U the cashback and freebies were offered even to customers who did not prebook and bought the phone well after the prebook purchase window. (craze for flagships in India are at an all time low, thanks to OnePlus and Samsung themselves).
Also the Note 20U was up in the corporate program with 5% discount in a matter of few days including the 9k cashback and freebies.
I will get the S21U only during the first week of Feb.
I'm expecting the price to be around 90k for S21U 256gig, anything more than that, I might as well wait for Z flip 2/3 later in April.
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You got the VIP pass for the next Galaxy after you pre reserved it?
In India prebooking is of no use, last time for the Note 20U the cashback and freebies were offered even to customers who did not prebook and bought the phone well after the prebook purchase window. (craze for flagships in India are at an all time low, thanks to OnePlus and Samsung themselves).
Also the Note 20U was up in the corporate program with 5% discount in a matter of few days including the 9k cashback and freebies.
I will get the S21U only during the first week of Feb.
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No I didn't get any VIP pass. Was I supposed to? If I don't like what I see tomorrow, I am going to just refund my ₹2000 and wait for Feb/March to buy it. The only thing keeping me from the flip/fold is that the camera is always a generation behind in these devices.
I for one, do no find these "pre-registering"(or any other name) hulabaloos fascinating at all given that it's a Samsung flagship.
Irrespective of card/cash or other payment methods, I've been getting Samsung flagships on the very 1st day of market release buying from small retailers for a much lower price than the price quoted by bigger retailers or the biggest retailers with a fixed price or buying directly from Samsung online or offline for quite sometime now. The cost everytime turns out to be the lowest this way in comparison to the cost combined with any other CC/DC cashbacks/corporate offers/exchange offers/finance schemes etc... you name it.
Samsung tends(or "pretends" to be precise) to be strict with such retailers but being consumers all we need is a genuinely sourced product and a proper invoice. It makes sense because once we want to sell it later, the resale value will not at all differ based on which store we bought it from.
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In my case, prebooking offers are always applicable in the first place as one or the other re-seller does pre-booking taking the required credentials after me getting bombarded with calls soon after official announcement of the flagship.
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I for one, do no find these "pre-registering"(or any other name) hulabaloos fascinating at all given that it's a Samsung flagship.
Irrespective of card/cash or other payment methods, I've been getting Samsung flagships on the very 1st day of market release buying from small retailers for a much lower price than the price quoted by bigger retailers or the biggest retailers with a fixed price or buying directly from Samsung online or offline for quite sometime now. The cost everytime turns out to be the lowest this way in comparison to the cost combined with any other CC/DC cashbacks/corporate offers/exchange offers/finance schemes etc... you name it.
Samsung tends(or "pretends" to be precise) to be strict with such retailers but being consumers all we need is a genuinely sourced product and a proper invoice. It makes sense because once we want to sell it later, the resale value will not at all differ based on which store we bought it from.
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In my case, prebooking offers are always applicable in the first place as one or the other re-seller does pre-booking taking the required credentials after me getting bombarded with calls soon after official announcement of the flagship.
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Smaller retailer like non Samsung but authorized dealers like Sangeetha Mobiles, Chroma, Reliance Digital?
By how much you get a discount on the selling price, I have never tried this as I always get it from the Samsung Cafe.
I kinda feel awkward asking for a discount in Samsung Cafes
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Smaller retailer like non Samsung but authorized dealers like Sangeetha Mobiles, Croma, Reliance Digital?
By how much you get a discount on the selling price, I have never tried this as I always get it from the Samsung Cafe.
I kinda feel awkward asking for a discount in Samsung Cafes
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No not those big formats, they don't as they don't need to and they can't either. Smart cafés can but they will not.
Instead, approach a few small multibrand players if you have time for it. They need flagship buyers to stay alive in the eyes of big brands for their own promotion/survival and to do so, they let go of it for extremely thin margins.
I happened to purchase two N20U units costing 90k each from two diff. sellers(when it was 1st released) - that's one example.
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No not those big formats, they don't as they don't need to and they can't either. Smart cafés can but they will not.
Instead, approach a few small multibrand players if you have time for it. They need flagship buyers to stay alive in the eyes of big brands for their own promotion/survival and to do so, they let go of it for extremely thin margins.
I happened to purchase two N20U units costing 90k each from two diff. sellers(when it was 1st released) - that's one example.
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Thank you...Will go out and look for such small time dealers tomorrow and establish a comfort zone before end of this month.
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No I didn't get any VIP pass. Was I supposed to? If I don't like what I see tomorrow, I am going to just refund my ₹2000 and wait for Feb/March to buy it. The only thing keeping me from the flip/fold is that the camera is always a generation behind in these devices.
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Thatz true, the cameras on the flip and fold were bad.
Since we do not have a Note 21 this year, hope flip and fold are equipped with better camera system.
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....... I always get it from the Samsung Cafe.
kinda feel awkward asking for a discount in Samsung Cafes
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AFAIK, Samsung smart cafe franchises actually get the highest profit margins for each product they sell compared to other resellers. And it's the marketing skills and subsequent illusions created by the staff that make one feel awkward to ask for a discount.... Nope? The one running the franchise CAN give big discounts, but doesn't want to. They actually ended up giving me discounts a few times in the past but then I stopped visiting them lately as altogether I don't find it worth it.
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AFAIK, Samsung smart cafe franchises actually get the highest profit margins for each product they sell compared to other resellers. And it's the marketing skills and subsequent illusions created by the staff that make one feel awkward to ask for a discount.... Nope? The one running the franchise CAN give big discounts, but doesn't want to. They actually ended up giving me discounts a few times in the past but then I stopped visiting them lately as altogether I don't find it worth it.
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I have shortlisted a few small time detailers, will visit them tomorrow...btw Amazon has already started selling S21plus/ultra cases. They also have a video which shows the phone in its entirety
ESR Metal Kickstand Case Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 6.8-Inch 2021, Slim Silicone with Matte Finish Portrait and Landscape Stand Back Cover -Translucent Black : Amazon.in: Electronics
ESR Metal Kickstand Case Compatible with Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 6.8-Inch 2021, Slim Silicone with Matte Finish Portrait and Landscape Stand Back Cover -Translucent Black : Amazon.in: Electronics
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No microsd card slot....pretty much I'm out of it. thank you Samsung