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Buying S6 Active Unlocked?

I'm very interested in the S6 Active, but I live in Canada. I am wondering if AT&T sells the phone unlocked if I buy it outright? Actually, would AT&T even sell me the phone if I am not a current customer? If not, does anyone know a way around that?

MizuRyuu said:
I'm very interested in the S6 Active, but I live in Canada. I am wondering if AT&T sells the phone unlocked if I buy it outright? Actually, would AT&T even sell me the phone if I am not a current customer? If not, does anyone know a way around that?
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Yes if you pay full price they'll defiantly sell it to you, pretty sure they'll unlock too since your buying it outright.

I think the Canadian Carriers will get it soon - they Carried the S5 Active. Just wait..
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MizuRyuu said:
I'm very interested in the S6 Active, but I live in Canada. I am wondering if AT&T sells the phone unlocked if I buy it outright? Actually, would AT&T even sell me the phone if I am not a current customer? If not, does anyone know a way around that?
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BTW - Does the LTE bands the AT&T model match Canadian LTE?? might be worth waiting it out..

psxp said:
I think the Canadian Carriers will get it soon - they Carried the S5 Active. Just wait..
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BTW - Does the LTE bands the AT&T model match Canadian LTE?? might be worth waiting it out..
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They might get it... but last year, the S5 didn't come out until about October. I'm not sure I'm willing to wait 4 month for the possibility that Canada might get the phone. Hence my questions.
Thanks for the reminder regarding the LTE bands, I'll check to make sure it is compatible
EDIT: Luckily, AT&T and Rogers mostly sure the same LTE bands, so should be fine there

If the phone is paid for in full then AT&T has to grant you an unlock code - you just go to their website and request it. I requested it in the evening and received the code the next morning.
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/#/
Just make sure you choose that you are not an AT&T customer.

Can confirm the above. Picked mine up from best buy requested unlock code from AT&T and had it next morning. O am using it on T-Mobile.
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What about the boot loader?
I'm curious if the unlocked version comes without the AT&T boot loader. I have the Moto X, unlocked through AT&T but still cannot remove the boot loader. Can use the phone anywhere that offers the same GSM frequencies though.
hal3146 said:
Can confirm the above. Picked mine up from best buy requested unlock code from AT&T and had it next morning. O am using it on T-Mobile.
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tdiwagon said:
I'm curious if the unlocked version comes without the AT&T boot loader. I have the Moto X, unlocked through AT&T but still cannot remove the boot loader. Can use the phone anywhere that offers the same GSM frequencies though.
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Nope. Bootloader is the same on all S6 Actives. Because it is an AT&T exclusive.
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S6 Active in UK on Vodafone
Hi, I too am very interested in getting an S6 Active (replace old S4 Active). I'm in the UK, on Vodafone who use LTE 7, 20 [2.6GHz, 800MHz] for 4G I think, which are all in the S6 specs. So if I got an AT&T S6 Active unlocked, anyone care to advise if it should work fine in the UK on Vodafone?
Thanks very much in advance.

I'm getting told a different story...
I've spoken to best buy and all my local Att shops and they all say they will not sell a galaxy s6 active without adding it to an existing Att account or creating a new one. Then they told me that I couldn't get it unlocked until I've had the plan for anywhere from 2-6 months. I can't get a straight story about the delayed unlocking. I have T-Mobile and would LOVE to purchase the phone outright and unlock it and use it right away on T-Mobile. How did you guys buy the phones without having a plan added? Thanks!

Did you use someone else's account?
hal3146 said:
Can confirm the above. Picked mine up from best buy requested unlock code from AT&T and had it next morning. O am using it on T-Mobile.
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How did you get them to sell you one without activating it and adding it to a current ATT account or forcing you to sign up for service with them? I called and they said that even if you purchase it outright, they MUST add it/create a new ATT account before you leave. So lame...

hoodlum54 said:
How did you get them to sell you one without activating it and adding it to a current ATT account or forcing you to sign up for service with them? I called and they said that even if you purchase it outright, they MUST add it/create a new ATT account before you leave. So lame...
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The ATT store will not sell it unless you have an account. When I went into best buy they said no problem. Just ask for an S6 active and tell them you want to but it out right. They don't care. If the salesman says you need to have an active line ask for another one. When I brought mine I got a $100 gift card for buying the phone outright, was not expecting it and it was a nice perk.
For unlocking ATT policy, you can find it on their website, states that if you are not an ATT customer and have a phone that is not activated on ATT and is not black listed that they will unlock it for free. I just filled out the form and the next day i had the unlock code. You can Google the policy for exact wording. They will not unlock it in store.
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hal3146 said:
The ATT store will not sell it unless you have an account. When I went into best buy they said no problem. Just ask for an S6 active and tell them you want to but it out right. They don't care. If the salesman says you need to have an active line ask for another one. When I brought mine I got a $100 gift card for buying the phone outright, was not expecting it and it was a nice perk.
For unlocking ATT policy, you can find it on their website, states that if you are not an ATT customer and have a phone that is not activated on ATT and is not black listed that they will unlock it for free. I just filled out the form and the next day i had the unlock code. You can Google the policy for exact wording. They will not unlock it in store.
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AT&T store sold it to me outright, no AT&T account. I was able to get unlock code from the website by next day. The store even helped show me how to do it.

hal3146 said:
The ATT store will not sell it unless you have an account. When I went into best buy they said no problem. Just ask for an S6 active and tell them you want to but it out right. They don't care. If the salesman says you need to have an active line ask for another one. When I brought mine I got a $100 gift card for buying the phone outright, was not expecting it and it was a nice perk.
For unlocking ATT policy, you can find it on their website, states that if you are not an ATT customer and have a phone that is not activated on ATT and is not black listed that they will unlock it for free. I just filled out the form and the next day i had the unlock code. You can Google the policy for exact wording. They will not unlock it in store.
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Thank you! I texted my friend who works there and he talked with a guy and they made it happen! Thanks guys!

hoodlum54 said:
Thank you! I texted my friend who works there and he talked with a guy and they made it happen! Thanks guys!
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hal3146 said:
The ATT store will not sell it unless you have an account. When I went into best buy they said no problem. Just ask for an S6 active and tell them you want to but it out right. They don't care. If the salesman says you need to have an active line ask for another one. When I brought mine I got a $100 gift card for buying the phone outright, was not expecting it and it was a nice perk.
For unlocking ATT policy, you can find it on their website, states that if you are not an ATT customer and have a phone that is not activated on ATT and is not black listed that they will unlock it for free. I just filled out the form and the next day i had the unlock code. You can Google the policy for exact wording. They will not unlock it in store.
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That is great, now... can you pleae report how well the S6 active from AT&T works on the T-mobile network? How are the LTE speeds? and the 3g as well.. as I think it misses some of Tmobiles bands. How is the calling quality on T-mobile and reception? Does it have the new band 12 compatible with the new Tmobile band 12? Do you know if it they have root access already? and of course... what about wifi calling? I am assuming this feature does not work with this phone. We appreciate answers to those questions.

spaniolo said:
That is great, now... can you pleae report how well the S6 active from AT&T works on the T-mobile network? How are the LTE speeds? and the 3g as well.. as I think it misses some of Tmobiles bands. How is the calling quality on T-mobile and reception? Does it have the new band 12 compatible with the new Tmobile band 12? Do you know if it they have root access already? and of course... what about wifi calling? I am assuming this feature does not work with this phone. We appreciate answers to those questions.
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The phone is compatible with attached t-mobile bands except 12. Band 12 does not concern me that much since I am an in area that does not have it. Speeds otherwise are the same as tmobile.
There is no WiFi calling option as this is exclusive to t-mobile. I am keeping an old phone tmobile around for when I travel international and use WiFi calling.
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So far...very frustrating
spaniolo said:
That is great, now... can you pleae report how well the S6 active from AT&T works on the T-mobile network? How are the LTE speeds? and the 3g as well.. as I think it misses some of T mobiles bands. How is the calling quality on T-mobile and reception? Does it have the new band 12 compatible with the new Tmobile band 12? Do you know if it they have root access already? and of course... what about wifi calling? I am assuming this feature does not work with this phone. We appreciate answers to those questions.
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Received the unlock code and it worked like a charm, however everything else has been an issue. T-mobile set me up with a sim card and activated it and I can make calls fine, but the data is TERRIBLY slow. As in, I used to get 10mbps easily all around Charlotte (my home city) but now I'm getting MAYBE .88mbps. Also, the top where it says "lte" keeps disappearing and just showing the bars and the data cuts off completely. I'll make a call, and then after I hang up, the symbol comes back for a little while. I've reset the APN settings, done them manually with some info I found online, but it's still an issue. If anyone could help me, that'd be amazing.
Also, not software related, the actual screen has an issue. It's not the worst thing ever, but in direct sunlight there is a box around the screen about .25 inches in from the edge. It's almost like the glue they used to attach the glass to the screen isn't clear, but nearly clear. It shows up best on a white background with direct sunlight and the back-light turned up all the way, but it's visible on everything but black. VERY annoying.
I'm going to keep working with it (have factory reset twice now) for a couple of hours, but if it doesn't get figured out I have to return it. I use the phone for work and I literally cannot be without a stable connection.

hoodlum54 said:
Received the unlock code and it worked like a charm, however everything else has been an issue. T-mobile set me up with a sim card and activated it and I can make calls fine, but the data is TERRIBLY slow. As in, I used to get 10mbps easily all around Charlotte (my home city) but now I'm getting MAYBE .88mbps. Also, the top where it says "lte" keeps disappearing and just showing the bars and the data cuts off completely. I'll make a call, and then after I hang up, the symbol comes back for a little while. I've reset the APN settings, done them manually with some info I found online, but it's still an issue. If anyone could help me, that'd be amazing.
Also, not software related, the actual screen has an issue. It's not the worst thing ever, but in direct sunlight there is a box around the screen about .25 inches in from the edge. It's almost like the glue they used to attach the glass to the screen isn't clear, but nearly clear. It shows up best on a white background with direct sunlight and the back-light turned up all the way, but it's visible on everything but black. VERY annoying.
I'm going to keep working with it (have factory reset twice now) for a couple of hours, but if it doesn't get figured out I have to return it. I use the phone for work and I literally cannot be without a stable connection.
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Can you take a screen shot or post your APN settings? I have no issues using on tmobile
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hal3146 said:
Can you take a screen shot or post your APN settings? I have no issues using on tmobile
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I called T-mobile and they had me manually enter 2 different sets of settings to try and get it to work, and the 2nd set was stable but wasn't fast. Then she pushed my device some settings (didn't know they could do that) and I installed them when prompted. That's the settings I'm using now. The connection is stable, but speeds are not like what they were (coming from an S5 so missing band 12 isn't the issue I unless I'm mistaken). Thank you so much for your help.
Here are the screenshots. My old phone used "fast.tmobile.com" but this one uses epc.tmobile.com. Not sure what the difference is. http://imgur.com/a/5pddQ

hoodlum54 said:
I called T-mobile and they had me manually enter 2 different sets of settings to try and get it to work, and the 2nd set was stable but wasn't fast. Then she pushed my device some settings (didn't know they could do that) and I installed them when prompted. That's the settings I'm using now. The connection is stable, but speeds are not like what they were (coming from an S5 so missing band 12 isn't the issue I unless I'm mistaken). Thank you so much for your help.
Here are the screenshots. My old phone used "fast.tmobile.com" but this one uses epc.tmobile.com. Not sure what the difference is. http://imgur.com/a/5pddQ
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Mine is fast-tmobile I think that is your problem. Google tmobile APN settings and try them
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I have Sprint. Which Note 8 to buy? Root. Please Help!

Hello,
Which Note 8 should I buy?
International Version
Unlocked Version
Sprint Version
I heard the processor for the International Version is best I think it stats with an E. Should I get that?
I would like to root.
Does it matter or should I just order one directly from Sprint?
Will this work with Sprint?
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Factory Unlocked Phone - 6.3" Screen - 64GB - Midnight Black (U.S. Warranty)
This one from Amazon?
Should I buy that one above from Amazon or buy it directly from Sprint?
Can I root both of them?
I would like to order one today, I just don't know if I should order from Sprint or Amazon.
P.S.
Also if this is not possible should I get a S8 or S8 Plus? However, reading over on their threads doesn't look like root is possible really there either, hit or miss. Is that true? Which S8 I should get? International or US?
I mainly want apps like:
Ad Block
YouTube Background Player
YouTube Ad Block
ETC...
Please Advise.

you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin

purchasedPhone said:
you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.

purchasedPhone said:
you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
pcriz said:
There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.
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What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.

AtlantaBB said:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
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from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.

AtlantaBB said:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable?
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.

purchasedPhone said:
from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.
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Torquemada288 said:
The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.
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Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.

AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.

AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.

BlueFox721 said:
I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.
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My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Torquemada288 said:
Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.
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Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.

AtlantaBB said:
My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.
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The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
Oops...I forgot to mention that they may update more frequently or sooner

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The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
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That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?

AtlantaBB said:
That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?
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When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though

I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.

BlueFox721 said:
When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though
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Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
Agenesis said:
I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.
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So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.

AtlantaBB said:
Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.
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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
https://www.androidcentral.com/volte

BlueFox721 said:
Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?

AtlantaBB said:
Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?
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https://www.androidcentral.com/volte
I am coming from Note 3 as well

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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Oh my goodness, looks like my note 3 has two antennas and the newer phones have only 1. that is why i can do both. Why would they make the service worse?
https://community.sprint.com/t5/Buz...e-same-time-with-Sprint-s-Calling/ba-p/961338

The Note 8 wipes the Note 3 out

How do I unlock the OEM on the SM-N960U T-MOBILE Samsung Galaxy note 9?

I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.

quantum88 said:
I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.
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Return it, and buy an unlockable device.

If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.

j101399j said:
If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.
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I got it from T-Mobile

quantum88 said:
I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.
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You can't OEM unlock a snapdragon model

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j101399j said:
If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.
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He's talking about OEM unlock for the bootloader not carrier lock

TechOut said:
He's talking about OEM unlock for the bootloader not carrier lock
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My mistake, thank you for clarifying.

TechOut said:
You can't OEM unlock a snapdragon model
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Is that just for now or a certainty?

quantum88 said:
Is that just for now or a certainty.
Well it didnt happen on the s9 that i know of so.....
And even if you could whats the point? its not like you can flash twrp or anything else lol.
sent from my S9 Plus (Exynos) Pixel 2XL or Note FE
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force70 said:
quantum88 said:
And even if you could whats the point? its not like you can flash twrp or anything else lol.
sent from my S9 Plus (Exynos) Pixel 2XL or Note FE
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What do you mean?
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quantum88 said:
force70 said:
What do you mean?
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Your BL is locked, there is nothing for you to gain be enabling OEM unlock. The people with unlockable devices have to enable OEM to flash twrp...you cannot therefore it is pointless.
Well at least in my point of view, why do you want to enable it?
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t mobile sm-n960u unlock ???
Ok I have been on this site for a long time.
Sorry I am not or I do not have to brain power most of you have here on this site doing what you do best
making are phones better a lot of you have the nack for this stuff
at&t note 2 rooted with the help and info from this site htc m7 rooted here t mobile note 4 and note 5
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
to come out with
but I am thinking about returning this phone to t junk mobile I just get the unlocked one from best buy
this phone would not be that bad if I can get rid of t junk mobile ad on boot up logo and jingle sound but I found an app silent boot to fix that but
that is adding anther app on my phone that I really do not want
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
Question 2
is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
I see venom has a rom that suppose to work on a ms-n960u so what do you need to do to install that if no root is available

The simple answer is that you can't unlock the bootloader on the US market phone. You haven't been able to do so since the Galaxy S7. I think it likely has a lot to do with KNOX integration for security reasons. The complicated answer is that there were ways to root the S7 by flashing a developer bootloader (engboot or something like that). The catch is that while you could root it, the phone would run like crap, overheat, bad battery life, etc. Some claimed to have decent success with it though. Likely something similar will happen with the Note 9 as well as. An unlocked phone is carrier unlocked, meaning you can activate it on any supported carrier. It has nothing to do with the bootloader.
Long story short, no, you can't unlock the bootloader, no, you can't flash twrp, and you'll find actual development for the US market phone to be essentially non-existent. If that is important to you, return this phone. Coming from rooting and flashing all of my phones prior to the S7, I honestly don't miss it. IMO, there's nothing to be gained, and it's a huge time suck. Life is too short and I'm too busy to spend an evening setting things up for the 5th time, troubleshooting battery life issues, etc. Not to mention that my job related security apps aren't going to work on a rooted phone.
Now, as far as "junk apps" not sure what you mean. These phones are now pretty clean actually, and most things can be uninstalled or disabled from within stock android. And as I found out many times in the past, if something is unable to be disabled, it's probably for good reason.
As far as ads, also not sure what you mean. Web browser ads can be blocked through extensions that Samsung browser supports. In app ads can be eliminated by paying for the app. Really, if you can't afford $3 for an app that you frequently use, I'd question how you can afford a $1000 phone.

MerlinTT said:
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
to come out with
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That's incorrect. The unlocked version is fully compatible with T-Mobile.
MerlinTT said:
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
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Samsung has been locking bootloaders since the S7? It's been a few years. Even when someone found a way to beat it, it was severely limiting to your device. You said you're not new here. This is pretty common knowledge with Samsung devices.
MerlinTT said:
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
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Uh, what ads? That's not a samsung thing, I think you just installed some ****ty apps.
MerlinTT said:
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
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Hoooo boy. You might want to look into HTC phones before you buy one.
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Question 2
is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
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Yes. And they've been working on the S9 too, which still can't be beaten. And a proper way to unlock the S8, without limiting your battery to 80%.
And why exactly is T-Mobile "junk"? Maybe you need a different carrier.

I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy

MerlinTT said:
I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy
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If a color is challenging your sexuality, you have deeper problems than an unrootable phone.

MerlinTT said:
I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy
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I think your problems go well beyond the color of your boot screen. Seek help. The kind of help you need we're not qualified to provide here. How often do you see the boot logo screen anyway?

MerlinTT said:
Ok I have been on this site for a long time.
Sorry I am not or I do not have to brain power most of you have here on this site doing what you do best
making are phones better a lot of you have the nack for this stuff
at&t note 2 rooted with the help and info from this site htc m7 rooted here t mobile note 4 and note 5
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
to come out with
but I am thinking about returning this phone to t junk mobile I just get the unlocked one from best buy
this phone would not be that bad if I can get rid of t junk mobile ad on boot up logo and jingle sound but I found an app silent boot to fix that but
that is adding anther app on my phone that I really do not want
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
Question 2
is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
I see venom has a rom that suppose to work on a ms-n960u so what do you need to do to install that if no root is available
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There are two types of "unlocked": carrier and bootloader. BestBuy meant carrier unlocked, or the N960U1. The hardware is equivalent to the carrier version (N960U; there's only one model now for all the carriers), and the only software difference is that it doesn't come with the carrier bloat. Same hardware and firmware means it supports B71. However, it cannot be bootloader unlocked.
You have two options if you want a bootloader unlock: the N9600 or the N960F. Neither supports B71, but both do support B66. Remember, B71 isn't all that important yet. It's only been rolled out in a few places and TMO is concentrating more on 5G right now.
The N960F has a mod you can flash to enable TMO WiFi Calling and VoLTE and the other carrier features. I'm running it now and it works fine. It did sort of convert my phone to a Chinese variant, which meant I was stuck with the super aggressive Smart Manager instead of Device Manager, but I modified it to let me use Device Manager again. I might be posting the modified version if I can get permission.
The fact is that, yes, Samsung kind of beat the rooters. However, anyone who really wants to root usually just gets the F or 0 variant, and those who can live without make do with the plethora of non-root tweaks. There are actually quite a few adblockers and package disablers designed for TouchWiz that work without root, such as DNS66 or notSABS.
I don't know anything about flashing modified TouchWiz ROMs on the U variant, but it might be possible. It won't have root though.
Really, if you want a rootable Samsung, go with the N960F. You can get it on Amazon new with Prime for under $900 (without Prime it's $800). It has TWRP and Magisk works fine. If you want WFC PM me so I can share my modified mod (heh). I'll also be working on a set of other miscellaneous modifications to TouchWiz.

SM-N960U
So in old slow world of us phone dummies that try to keep up with all the brain power that this site has been good for in unlocking phones over the years, oh ya and when you all talk that doctors language and write it
to where us dummies have to read and reread over and over again and again to unlock are phones after you all figured it out!!
So what you are saying in the current Samsung world rooting is a thing of the past! Samsung won the hacking war!!! and us pe-ons are mostly stuck with carrier banded phones or unlocked that loses carrier bands and options!
Unless we pay some merc to kidnap you and have some doctor transfer your brain power into are brains so we have the brain power to hack and mod are locked phones then if we are kind have that brain power transferred back to your brains!!!!
I should have stayed with my note 4
oh ya my man hood is just fine they hang lower then yours but that happens with old age how low??
it is great with the younger ladies big is a big deal today
like older ladies with big you know what age affects them to and the younger guys can not stop looking
just do not like pink
Grumpy

Multi-line settings in Unlocked s10

Does anybody know if the unlocked s10 will have access to Multi-line settings or has had experience with previous unlocked variants having access?
On T-Mobile this setting is specifically used for native "Digits" functionality without having to use an app. It's the only concern I have purchasing the unlocked variant.

I can't speak for the S10. The Note 9 however has built in Digits support in the TMobile variant, but requires downloading the app for the US unlocked variant. Chances are the S10 is also like this.

mosi76 said:
Does anybody know if the unlocked s10 will have access to Multi-line settings or has had experience with previous unlocked variants having access?
On T-Mobile this setting is specifically used for native "Digits" functionality without having to use an app. It's the only concern I have purchasing the unlocked variant.
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So I had Unlocked S8 on T-Mobile and I believe S9 and S10 might have the same thing. Basically unlocked version only had: WiFi Calling, Band 12 and VoLTE and there was no Milti-Line setting, unless if you get T-Mobile branded phone. What I have done to my S8, is I flashed it with T-Mo firmware and got all the features without bloatware
This time I ordered S10e unlocked and upon getting it, will inspect and see which features unlocked model will offer and if need be, will flash to T-Mobile firmware

Charkatak said:
So I had Unlocked S8 on T-Mobile and I believe S9 and S10 might have the same thing. Basically unlocked version only had: WiFi Calling, Band 12 and VoLTE and there was no Milti-Line setting, unless if you get T-Mobile branded phone. What I have done to my S8, is I flashed it with T-Mo firmware and got all the features without bloatware
This time I ordered S10e unlocked and upon getting it, will inspect and see which features unlocked model will offer and if need be, will flash to T-Mobile firmware
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When you say that you didn't have any TMobile bloatware when you flashed the TMobile firmware, are you referring to the general TMobile apps (like TMobile account app, VVM, etc)? or are you referring to some other 3rd party apps that TMobile puts on post-firmware. I always thought the TMobile apps would be there if flashing TMobile firmware, but I could be wrong.

Kjn246 said:
When you say that you didn't have any TMobile bloatware when you flashed the TMobile firmware, are you referring to the general TMobile apps (like TMobile account app, VVM, etc)? or are you referring to some other 3rd party apps that TMobile puts on post-firmware. I always thought the TMobile apps would be there if flashing TMobile firmware, but I could be wrong.
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3rd party apps, for example "Lookout" antivirus app wasn't there and other that T-Mobile might put there. These apps need to be disabled and can't be uninstalled. I am fine with T-Mobile account app and VVM. When flashing, just need to flash main firmware files(4 of them) and the 5th one was userdata, which has all the unneeded stuff

When you do this, don't you void something that doesn't let you use samsung pay, etc?
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So I had Unlocked S8 on T-Mobile and I believe S9 and S10 might have the same thing. Basically unlocked version only had: WiFi Calling, Band 12 and VoLTE and there was no Milti-Line setting, unless if you get T-Mobile branded phone. What I have done to my S8, is I flashed it with T-Mo firmware and got all the features without bloatware
This time I ordered S10e unlocked and upon getting it, will inspect and see which features unlocked model will offer and if need be, will flash to T-Mobile firmware
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gotnoypi said:
When you do this, don't you void something that doesn't let you use samsung pay, etc?
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No, because I flashed my phone with an official Samsung firmware

Should have known so I could have purchased the unlocked version. Thanks for the info.
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No, because I flashed my phone with an official Samsung firmware
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gotnoypi said:
Should have known so I could have purchased the unlocked version. Thanks for the info.
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Not a big deal as there were times when T-Mobile for example would release monthly security patches couple of weeks earlier and possibly the Android upgrade version early too(not always though). As I understand that Samsung is obligated to release an update for carrier branded phones and then can released for their unlocked units. If you would want to flash your phone down the road, you could. It is just the process may not be as straight forward as flashing unlocked model

Ok one thing I learned today as I was setting up my s10+. The Multi-line feature is still not activated in S10+ (most likely in other s10 variant as well). I spoke with Tmobile Digits team and it was just confirm to them yesterday that S10 doesn't support multi-line yet. The only way to use DIGITS is trough the digits app. It's definitely a bummer.
I was also told that the same situation applies to the previous phones during launch (S9 or Note9) where it wasn't initially activated. It was delivered through a software upgrade afterwards. So I'm hoping this software update arrives sooner than later.
Hope this helps other member's using DIGITS.

gotnoypi said:
Ok one thing I learned today as I was setting up my s10+. The Multi-line feature is still not activated in S10+ (most likely in other s10 variant as well). I spoke with Tmobile Digits team and it was just confirm to them yesterday that S10 doesn't support multi-line yet. The only way to use DIGITS is trough the digits app. It's definitely a bummer.
I was also told that the same situation applies to the previous phones during launch (S9 or Note9) where it wasn't initially activated. It was delivered through a software upgrade afterwards. So I'm hoping this software update arrives sooner than later.
Hope this helps other member's using DIGITS.
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Luckily you got to speak to someone who actually knows or at least should know. I have messaged them through the app and through Twitter and got the same basic kinda answer but no specifics and that's if they even knew what I was talking about. Hopefully it happens soon. Thanks for the update

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Luckily you got to speak to someone who actually knows or at least should know. I have messaged them through the app and through Twitter and got the same basic kinda answer but no specifics and that's if they even knew what I was talking about. Hopefully it happens soon. Thanks for the update
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I took multiple tries on chat and call. Luckily I got forwarded to DIGITS team and the person knows exactly the issue and is not reading off knowledge base or written instructions.
Hopefully it arrives soon as I don't want to use the DIGITS app for it.

T-Mobile DIGITS team has actually been telling customers that the native multiline feature will not be coming to the S10 or supported on other devices anymore because they destaffed that dev team. They are phasing out the feature. Absolutely horrible decision. The DIGITS app is hot trash. They have a **** load of customer pissed about it. Especially in the business segment like me. There's a scathing thread over on the T-Mobile's forums about it.

So, now T-Mobile DIGITS experts are telling people that they are waiting on an update from Samsung to make the feature possible again.
So, I don't what the **** is going on. It's ****ery.

Unless we hear something directly from Samsung, everything is now just hear say. I'm still hoping for a software update to push out the feature.

Actually, the multi-line setting was garbage. Even on my previous Note 8 and current unlocked Huawei P20 Pro, I use the DIGITS app. Luckily, with previous T-Mobile lines, got DIGITS for free. For new customers and new lines, I think it costs some monthly fees.

Thank you!
gotnoypi said:
Ok one thing I learned today as I was setting up my s10+. The Multi-line feature is still not activated in S10+ (most likely in other s10 variant as well). I spoke with Tmobile Digits team and it was just confirm to them yesterday that S10 doesn't support multi-line yet. The only way to use DIGITS is trough the digits app. It's definitely a bummer.
I was also told that the same situation applies to the previous phones during launch (S9 or Note9) where it wasn't initially activated. It was delivered through a software upgrade afterwards. So I'm hoping this software update arrives sooner than later.
Hope this helps other member's using DIGITS.
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Hey, thank you so much for posting this. I tried to contact thru customer support, Twitter, calls, walk-ins.. Seems like T-Mobile employees aren't aware not only of this issue, but of the option at all..

don't mean to resurrect this old thread, but i got my S10 a few days ago and just got off the phone with the DIGITS support, after being transferred numerous times by people that didn't know what i was even talking about. the guy said that samsung told them (tmobile) a few months ago that they are removing multi-line settings from all new devices and that users need to start using the DIGITS app instead. he even said that with any further updates on the phones that currently have multi-line settings, the updates will actually remove those settings from the phones. pretty crappy if you ask me.

I'm still using a Samsung S7 with multi-line set to On, with T-Mobile. I didn't like their Digits app, much prefer the phone's native multi-line ability. However, as others above have said, T-Moble Digits support told me that Samsung was going to remove that ability. For now, it still works albeit buggy. I have to turn the phone off then on multiple times a day to keep the second line working properly. Does anyone know another Android phone that supports multi-line with T-Mobile, but correctly?

Can I get VOLTE on an unlocked N9 on Verizon?

SquareTrade just replaced my Verizon locked N8 with an unlocked one. I found out that VOLTE did not work on the unlocked one, and have been through the research about using IMS settings, and then having that option die with Pie. Working with ST has been a nightmare and I need a working phone, so am looking hard at an N9. I know the N10 is coming out soon, but that has turned into the iNote with no expandable memory or headphone port, so I'm not really interested in it.
I have been offered a brand new USA N9 unlocked for a reasonable price. But I believe I'd have the same issues with it that I'm having with the unlocked N8, that I would not be able to use VOLTE, wifi calling, video calling, etc. So the first question, is that assumption correct?
I've been searching these N9 forums, and don't see an easy way to get those functions back. I used to root and flash my phones as a matter of course. But I've gotten away from that with the 7 and 8 series Galaxy phones, and really don't want to go back. Knox bit tripping, more difficult updates, missing functions, etc. So am I missing something as far being to get VOLTE on Verizon enabled on an unlocked N9?

I'm assuming it's a U, but don't know for sure. Would the method used to flash the phone compromise the 0x0 Knox status?
EDIT: I just confirmed it is a 960U.
Thanks

Links please? I appreciate it.

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For which phone? I was going to write up a how too but I don't know if you have the n8 or n9.
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I ended up getting the N9 after testing it with my Verizon SIM and finding it does work for VOLTE w/o having to flash anything. It is a U, but not a U1.
So a guide for the N8 would be awesome! Thanks again.

jd14771 said:
so, assuming that the note 8 is a SM-N960U1, you can flash it to be a N960U be following the following guide i just wrote for another member. The only difference will be to skip step 5 and ignore step 6. that guide is for a N960F. (note 9). supplement step 6 in that guide for this one.
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Thank you! It'll be a few days until I get my replacement N8 from Squaretrade, so that I can try it.

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No problem, let me know if you need any help.
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Will do. I have the firmware downloaded and unpacked. And I've used Odin before.
Another question. Will I be able to take the normal Verizon updates once finished?
It'll be at least another week getting the replacement phone, probably closer to 2. Squaretrade sent it to the wrong address, where nobody is currently at. So now we're waiting for FedEx to attempt delivery 3 times, hold it for 5 days locally, and then send it back to ST. And then we'll start a new claim. ST has just been awful to work with. Nice on the phone, after the always 10-15 minute hold times. But they have a very poor "say to do" ratio, especially when it comes to getting addresses right, or calling back if we get disconnected, even though they ask what call back number to use, in case that happens. I'm glad I have the insurance on the phone, but you need to be ready to be w/o a replacement phone for a LONG time with these folks.