My Samsung Galaxy ACE S5830 needs the kiss of life, so as to return to the 21st century.
It has slow responses and quite often freezes and messes up with my nerves.
It currently runs on a 2.3.5 android version.
I want to root it, take a backup, increase ram by creating a partition in my new sd card and install a light custom rom (like MIUI). For this purpose, I just bought a very fast Kingston 32GB, class 10 U3, sd card with theoretical 90MBs read and 80MBs write speed. I think that will suffice.
I am a simple user and I need basic functions. My main issue is to get a faster response from the phone. I don’t play games and I am not a major fun of social media. I just want to want to use it mainly as a phone, for calls, messages, Viber, and some extra facilities like emailing, web browsing, watching some videos online (news and youtube), occasional photos, listen to music, and install a GPS program like Sygic.
I’ve already read a lot about the whole process, but as I’m doing it for the first time in my life I want to make sure that I got it right. And I have a few ambiguities.
Please advise or freely suggest if any better/easier method is available.
1. Rooting.
I decided to use Kingo Root. So, I need to download Kingo Root to my pc and connect the phone (having enabled USB debugging) and just press Root. Then check if rooting is successful with Root Checker. Then download and install SuperSU app. And I’m done.
Do I need to unlock my bootloader, too?
2. Backup.
a) Take an image of the existing ROM.
Download and install ROM Manager, flash ClockworkMod Recovery and update. Boot in to recovery by using ROM Manager or manually by pressing simultaneously UP+POWER+HOME buttons. Then go to Backup and Restore and take a backup image. Right?
b) Backup apps and messages.
I want to take just 2 backups here, my text messages and my Viber messages. Do I use Titanium or something else? My contacts are already synchronized with Google. If I use a MIUI stock rom do I need to take a backup of my contacts too?
3. Increase phone's RAM
I think now is the right time to increase the phone’s RAM. Do I need to partition it with CWM? Or I just use an app like Ram Expander? Do I do both? I mean firstly partition the sd to the desired size and then use Ram Expander? None of the above? What do you suggest? I have read some other possible solutions like using INT2EXT+ after partition. And when I download a new app how will the phone know where to store it, in phone’s RAM or in sd card?
The key factor is speed and efficiency.
I’ve also read that “Even though the Internal Storage would read 2GB (or whatever is your partition size), the apps would still use some amount of REAL INTERNAL Storage for data, hence you need at least 100MB REAL Internal Memory for every 500MB SD-EXT memory.” Is this true? And if so, since I believe the Galaxy ACE S5830 has about 150 MB RAM the most I can actually get is 750 MB RAM?
It is important to get as much RAM as possible because I’ve read that Sygic (the GPS Navigator app) needs to be installed in phone’s RAM to work properly and it is about 700MB.
4. Install Stock ROM
Finally, the time has come to install a new stock rom. I am thinking about MIUI 6. I like its interface and I’ve heard it is light and fast. Any better suggestions? Can I do it in my phone?
My problem here is this, is MIUI a fully functional stock rom, which means I just download it and flash it or is it a “port rom” which means I have to previously install some android 4.4.x base rom? I have read in some article that is needs a compatible android rom to lean on before installing. Is that so?
Here I am stuck, I can’t decide how to proceed and I need your help.
Sorry, if the post is too long.
Hi there, long time galaxy ace user and MIUI lover here.
1. For rooting my device, I just flashed a zip in recovery mode. Can't find the link to that thread.
2. Yes, backup is very important right after rooting, especially for beginners.
As for sms backup, I recommend using SMS backup and Restore, which can be downloaded from the market. I haven't used viber, so I don't know which app would be the best for backing it up, but you can try Titanium backup. For contacts, you can sync them as long as you flash a g-apps package and sign in with the same google account. To be sure, you can try exporting your contacts to your sd card and import it later on (.vcf)
3. I did not even increase my phone's ram via swap, Even with a tiny ram, Miui on top of Cm7 is pretty fast and can handle any basic task such as browsing, youtube videos, music, calling, camera, camcording and messaging with minimal stutters. (I don't play games btw)
4. If you are a simple phone user just like me, who only need some calls, sms and browsing functionality, the best bet would be to use MIUI builds based on gingerbread (CM7). I found that MIUIv4 builds (ICS and JB) are poorly optimized for our device. Also, there are currently no MIUI v5 or v6 builds for armv6 devices.
My personal recommendation is: MIUIXXX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908444 which comes with FireKernel OC.
I use Gabreek's Miui v5 theme, which you can find it on his thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280553 In my opinion, his v5 theme is the best, because of LOTS of app icons and the overall feel.
Also, be sure to flash a g-apps package for gingerbread after flashing the rom.
MIUI v4 snapseries build is too unresponsive for me, and missing some features like screen off animation. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1879323
MIUI v4 JB by msnnsm is also good, but consumes lots of ram http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2054460.
TL;DR: flash an miui gb rom. It is the best in terms of stability and speed.
Thanks for your prompt answer and suggestions my friend. I will follow them all.
One question please, which is the most important query for me:
After I have made all the preparations (root and have taken a backup image with CWM, messages, etc.), what is the next step?
a) I need to install and flash the phone with a CM7 first and then install and flash MIUIXXX?
or
b) I just flash MIUIXXX straight away?
Also, I am not sure I understood correctly, Gabreek's Miui v5 (which is now updated to v6) is an alternative MIUI rom or a theme? Because I have downloaded it and it is a zip file not an .mtz file.
I am sorry if these sound like very noobish questions but I want to make sure that I understand what I am doing before I actually do it.
Thanks again for your help.
tommycr7 said:
Thanks for your prompt answer and suggestions my friend. I will follow them all.
One question please, which is the most important query for me:
After I have made all the preparations (root and have taken a backup image with CWM, messages, etc.), what is the next step?
a) I need to install and flash the phone with a CM7 first and then install and flash MIUIXXX?
or
b) I just flash MIUIXXX straight away?
Also, I am not sure I understood correctly, Gabreek's Miui v5 (which is now updated to v6) is an alternative MIUI rom or a theme? Because I have downloaded it and it is a zip file not an .mtz file.
I am sorry if these sound like very noobish questions but I want to make sure that I understand what I am doing before I actually do it.
Thanks again for your help.
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It's completely fine to flash miuiXXX right away (B)
gabreek's is another MIUI rom, but bluetooth is not working in his v6 build. The theme file (mtz) is somewhere in the bottom of the post, below some useful tips and just above the credits part of his post
Thanks again for your help.
I also thought the same, but I wanted to make sure.
I have already rooted my phone and I am in the process of taking various backups.
I will try the rom you have recommended and I will revert to report.
I think I owe you as much.
Btw do you know if Themer works in MIUI? It's quite an impressive app to have.
Cheers
as far as i know, themer does not work.
Also, MIUI comes with its own theme engine, and you can download online, which is very nice.
Remember that when Applying themes, do not include lockscreen (uncheck lockscreen) . Lockscreens from the Theme app are meant for HDPI device, and you won't be able to unlock your phone if you apply them. If you accidentally get stuck on the lockscreen, press volume up and back button at the same time. It will unlock your phone.
There are a handful of themes ported to MDPI which you can use over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428940
So far, so good, I have not experienced any major problems.
2 more things to ask if you dont mind.
a. Where do I get the gapps file to flash from? Is is a specific file for our rom (MIUIXXX) or any gapps file will do?
b. Can I add an extra language, in the android keyboard or do I have to use an app for this? Or even better in the system itself. I am from Greece and I would find it very convenient in some tasks of the phone. I mean since it is essentially a MIUI rom and MIUI has the greek language in its official roms, there must be a way that this can be done.
tommycr7 said:
My Samsung Galaxy ACE S5830 needs the kiss of life, so as to return to the 21st century.
It has slow responses and quite often freezes and messes up with my nerves.
It currently runs on a 2.3.5 android version.
I want to root it, take a backup, increase ram by creating a partition in my new sd card and install a light custom rom (like MIUI). For this purpose, I just bought a very fast Kingston 32GB, class 10 U3, sd card with theoretical 90MBs read and 80MBs write speed. I think that will suffice.
I am a simple user and I need basic functions. My main issue is to get a faster response from the phone. I don’t play games and I am not a major fun of social media. I just want to want to use it mainly as a phone, for calls, messages, Viber, and some extra facilities like emailing, web browsing, watching some videos online (news and youtube), occasional photos, listen to music, and install a GPS program like Sygic.
I’ve already read a lot about the whole process, but as I’m doing it for the first time in my life I want to make sure that I got it right. And I have a few ambiguities.
Please advise or freely suggest if any better/easier method is available.
1. Rooting.
I decided to use Kingo Root. So, I need to download Kingo Root to my pc and connect the phone (having enabled USB debugging) and just press Root. Then check if rooting is successful with Root Checker. Then download and install SuperSU app. And I’m done.
Do I need to unlock my bootloader, too?
2. Backup.
a) Take an image of the existing ROM.
Download and install ROM Manager, flash ClockworkMod Recovery and update. Boot in to recovery by using ROM Manager or manually by pressing simultaneously UP+POWER+HOME buttons. Then go to Backup and Restore and take a backup image. Right?
b) Backup apps and messages.
I want to take just 2 backups here, my text messages and my Viber messages. Do I use Titanium or something else? My contacts are already synchronized with Google. If I use a MIUI stock rom do I need to take a backup of my contacts too?
3. Increase phone's RAM
I think now is the right time to increase the phone’s RAM. Do I need to partition it with CWM? Or I just use an app like Ram Expander? Do I do both? I mean firstly partition the sd to the desired size and then use Ram Expander? None of the above? What do you suggest? I have read some other possible solutions like using INT2EXT+ after partition. And when I download a new app how will the phone know where to store it, in phone’s RAM or in sd card?
The key factor is speed and efficiency.
I’ve also read that “Even though the Internal Storage would read 2GB (or whatever is your partition size), the apps would still use some amount of REAL INTERNAL Storage for data, hence you need at least 100MB REAL Internal Memory for every 500MB SD-EXT memory.” Is this true? And if so, since I believe the Galaxy ACE S5830 has about 150 MB RAM the most I can actually get is 750 MB RAM?
It is important to get as much RAM as possible because I’ve read that Sygic (the GPS Navigator app) needs to be installed in phone’s RAM to work properly and it is about 700MB.
4. Install Stock ROM
Finally, the time has come to install a new stock rom. I am thinking about MIUI 6. I like its interface and I’ve heard it is light and fast. Any better suggestions? Can I do it in my phone?
My problem here is this, is MIUI a fully functional stock rom, which means I just download it and flash it or is it a “port rom” which means I have to previously install some android 4.4.x base rom? I have read in some article that is needs a compatible android rom to lean on before installing. Is that so?
Here I am stuck, I can’t decide how to proceed and I need your help.
Sorry, if the post is too long.
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Hi There,
To Root Your Device See The XDA's post.
Take The Backup of Current Rom Using CWM recovery or ROM Manager would do this too.
Then inorder to Increase Memory On Your Device By Partitining the SD Card.
Check My Guide over it in Galaxy Ace Development Section or General Android Dev Section.
If Helped Click Thanks
Hi,
1.
Try always to have on your sdcard a backup or a ROM that works ok.
Probe this a few times to be sure you can return anytime to the previous step.
2.
Take a notepad and make a change log with steps you made, so you can return to the previous step if something is not working ok.
3.
Try first to understand what you want to do, to be sure that you will not commit an error.
Try to learn from the mistakes of others.
It will be much easier for you.
Android 4.4.3 - STOCK OS - DEBLOATED - 64bit
Hello everyone. Lets jump straight to the point. This here is a backup made with TWRP from the STOCK OS for the HTC Desire 510 64bit. The few plus sides are that is DEBLOATED and that it uses a kernel that has write protection removed. Just a side note: I am trying to make a flashable ZIP for this but I'm having issues. I always get boot loops. So for now this is your only option.
If you are familiar with TWRP and backups and all that stuff you can skip the next parts and download the ROM, If not, I advise you to read carefully the whole thread if you don't want to brick your device.
DOWNLOADs
Version 0.0.1 (STABLE) - https://mega.nz/#!nBJUDL7D!bmkQzsbywpbyJ7tzPybSRtYUG1LzsPNnv_M7wZr4PoA
Version 0.2.0 - DEODEXED - (BETA) - https://mega.nz/#!jApGjZDJ!zQoSmyaCSRBV6iBtQwEOR_mTYhzqYeFxhm5p1P-fk68
DISCLAIMER
I'm not responsible if you damage your device in any way!
What is changed?
Not much is changed.
Bellow are the app replacments I made:
1. Sense Home ---> NOVA Launcher
2. Sense Messages ---> Google Messages (Material Design)
3. Sense Calculator ---> Xlythe Calculator (Material Design)
4. Sense Calendar ---> Google Calendar (Material Design)
5. Sense Clock ---> Google Clock (Material Design)
6. Sense File Manager ---> ES File Explorer
7. Sense Weather ---> AccuWeather
4. Sense Keyboard ---> Google Keyboard
I removed a lot of HTCs and Google’s useless apps and other things, that are taking up space and resources.
From Google apps you have left:
1. Google Play Store
2. Google Chrome
3. Google Play Games
4. Google Drive
4. YouTube
5. All other background apps and services that are required for the Google apps to function properly.
From HTC apps you have left:
1. Camera app
2. FM Radio
3. Gallery (I couldn't find a decent replacement)
4. Music
5. Photo Editor
6. LockScreen
I have removed the HTC Browser, Zoe, E-mail and other useless stuff from HTC.
I have included:
1. Clean Master Lite - It's much faster than the full blown app and gets the job done. Lots of people hate it but it works like a charm on this device.
2. DiskInfo - With this little app you can see all of the partitions on your device. Regardless if you are S-ON or S-OFF.
3. Glim Lite - A set of beautiful Material design icons for NOVA launcher.
I didn't include an E-mail app because the Play Store is full of them and I couldn't choose. This choice is up to you.
How to install it?
First of all you need an unlocked bootloader with a TWRP - custom recovery installed on your device.
To unlock your bootloader go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/development/bootloader-unlock-htc-desire-510-t2910233. Follow that tutorial to get your bootloader unlocked. After a successful unlocking you'll need a custom recovery.
Download this file: https://dl.twrp.me/a11ul/twrp-3.0.2-0-a11ul.img. This is the latest TWRP recovery for our device. Now we need to flash this file on the device:
Before starting put the contents of the ZIP file on to your SD card. And make sure that it has this folder structure:
Code:
--SD CARD
--TWRP
--BACKUPS
--Your device serial number (The name of this folder should be the serial number of your device otherwise TWRP won't see the backups in this folder)
--2016-04-17--13-49-21_KTU84L_release-keys (Don't change this, I don't know what will happen if you do)
1. Power off your device by pulling the battery out and putting it in again.
2. Press the Volume Down and Power Buttons until you see the HBOOT screen.
3. Press the Power button again to enter Fastboot mode.
4. Connect your phone with your PC using an USB cable.
5. Now open your terminal (I'm using Ubuntu but it's same in Windows as well) and type:
Code:
fastboot devices
This will show you an output like this:
Code:
--your devices serial number-- fastboot
If it doesn't show you an output like that then you probably didn't install the drivers correctly or you have a faulty USB cable.
If your output is the same as above than we can move on.
This command will flash the TWRP recovery on your device:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery /full/path/to/the/recovery.img
Example:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery /home/denny/Downloads/twrp-3.0.2-0-a11ul.img
Now you have TWRP on your device.
To boot TWRP press the Power button to go back to the HBOOT screen and navigate to the RECOVERY option with the volume keys and again press the Power button. After a few seconds you'll see your new recovery.
Restoring the backup
First we need to wipe any potential data that will cause conflicts with the new system.
1. Tap on "Wipe"
2. Tap on "Advanced Wipe"
3. Select all but leave the Micro SDCard option unchecked.
4. Swipe the slider to wipe the data.
After that is complete press on the house button on the lower end of the screen.
Now we are going to restore the backup:
1. Tap on the "Restore" button.
2. At the lower left corner tap on "Select Storage" button.
3. Choose "Micro SDCard" option and press OK.
4. Now you should see the backup folder. Open it.
5. Select "Boot" and "System" and swipe to start the restoring process.
6. Press "Reboot System" after the restoring has finished.
After you setup you system apply the Glim Lite icon pack to NOVA launcher.
Bellow are some screenshots of the new look.
Big thanks to:
@wolfaas12345 - for providing a tutorial on how to unlock your bootloader.
@rbheromax - for making a kernel with write protection removed.
@patrik.KT - for developing the TWRP recovery for our device.
If you are having any trouble ask a question on this thread or send me a private message.
XDA:DevDB Information
DeSense, ROM for the HTC Desire 510
Contributors
denny.hell
ROM OS Version: 4.4.x KitKat
ROM Kernel: Linux 3.10.x
ROM Firmware Required: None
Based On: Stock Sense 6.0 / 1.51.401.7
Version Information
Status: Stable
Created 2016-08-13
Last Updated 2018-03-23
BETA testers for OTA updates
I have managed to enable a function for our ROM to receive OTA updates directly from me. This will make updates more easy to be deployed and cuts down the time for me to upload the whole ROM and for you to download it and flash it. Be advised that this is for testing purposes only (for now). I don't know how much stable the ROM will be after receiving an update.
By flashing the ZIP file below you acknowledge that you are wiling to become a BETA tester and that you do this at your own risk.
Step 1.
You need to download the ZIP file below this post and flash it like any normal flashable ZIP.
The ZIP file contains a new app for OTA Updates, a new lib file for proper functioning of the app and an edited build.prop file. The build.prop file contains information to tell the app where to check if new updates are available, so please do not edit it yourself.
The app will say that there are no updates. That is not a bug, error or a glitch. Currently there are no updates. When an update is deployed the app will send you a notification.
Step 2.
Send an email to [email protected] to confirm that you have downloaded and flashed the ZIP file and that you are willing to be a BETA tester. Please use a valid email because I will be contacting you to share feedback about the new updates and discuss any issues you might have.
Reserved
Thanks a lot for the sharing!
I will definitely test it
BTW you say that you have problem - bootloop with the .zip, did you tried to flash boot.img manually after flashing of the .zip?
Also instead of gallery I use simply photos by google
Or there is also lightweight Gallery app by google (com.android.gallery3d). You will probably find it in GAPPS
Benik3 said:
BTW you say that you have problem - bootloop with the .zip, did you tried to flash boot.img manually after flashing of the .zip?
Also instead of gallery I use simply photos by google
Or there is also lightweight Gallery app by google (com.android.gallery3d). You will probably find it in GAPPS
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Thanks for those tips. I will definitely take a look at the lightweight gallery.
I tried flashing the boot.img manually but nothing. I've got it to boot up just once but there was no wi-fi. That leads me to belive that the permissions in the updater-script are not set up properly but also could be something else. If you have experience with updater-script do you think that you could help me out?
Unfortunately I don't have any bigger experiences with updater-script
Few times I edited it, but never so big one like installing ROM...
Anyway can you sand me the zip? I will try to look, but I don't promise anything
hi,
thanks so much for this Debloate.:good:
Well done developer! Phone itself is 10x faster without the bloatware apps on! Thank you so much developer!
Thanks a lot for your sharing. I finally have a nice going device. Its the best solution currently for this phone.
Hello mates i have an question
This version has fix that permision for sd card ?
Sent from my HTC Desire 510 using XDA-Developers mobile app
4. Now you should see the backup folder. Open it.
I do not see anywhere
what to do with the zip file that I downloaded from the above link
My bad, I did not read everything you've written
myke_angell said:
Hello mates i have an question
This version has fix that permision for sd card ?
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Yes...I don't have any trouble with my SD card
Moki1 said:
4. Now you should see the backup folder. Open it.
I do not see anywhere
what to do with the zip file that I downloaded from the above link
My bad, I did not read everything you've written
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No problem, if you have any further problems don't hesitate to ask
would be nice to have HTC Sense UI and email app left and htc foto editor and gallery removed and replaced by Google Photos, I don't understand why stick to ES File Explorer which does have in app ads rather have native file explorer, also I don't understand why I need that clean tool when android is managing ram just fine in this version.
Sorry if that sound rude, language barrier
Keep up with good work.
X-77 said:
would be nice to have HTC Sense UI left and email app and htc foto editor and gallery removed and replaced by Google Photos, I don't understand why stick to ES File Explorer which does have in app ads rather have native file explorer, also I don't understand why I need that clean tool when android is managing ram just fine in this version.
Sorry if that sound rude, language barrier
Keep up with good work.
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No problem, any feedback is more than welcome. The Sense UI will remain, the theming I'm gonna make will only be on the icons and maybe the QuickSettings layout of the buttons, nothing too big to ruin the Sense feel. I might get back the e-mail app if I can't find a descent replacement for it. In the next update the HTC Gallery, alongside the Photo Editor will be replaced by Google Photos. Also the ES File Explorer, I'm gonna replace it with something that is adds free, simple to use but versatile. The Clean tool is not much for RAM as it is for Junk removal. Here is an example: Yesterday I was listening to some music on YouTube for about two hours. After that, I run the Junk Removal tool....It removed somewhere around 900Mb of useless data. You see how you can free up some space with it. I plan to keep it, but If I get negative feedback about it I will remove it.
Again thank you for your feedback.
E.g. Total Commander is simple and nice explorer without adds
BTW now when you have root, you can install "adblocker" app
deodex is not good for this device beacuse have small memory and charge it useless, odex files have sufficient space in system.
my oppinion
lucyr03 said:
deodex is not good for this device beacuse have small memory and charge it useless, odex files have sufficient space in system.
my oppinion
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Thank you for your opinion. The main reason that I deodexed the ROM is to save up on the size of the actual download. I'm currently running the deodexed version on my phone and it works just fine. But still it will remain in BETA version unless I get positiv feedback about it.
Guys, I recall what I said, don't listen to me I'm a noob
Hi,
i have problems with file access under latest android 11 rooted firmware. I want to connect through ftp and want to backup files from internal storage and sdcard but with primitive ftpd and rooted access i can not see content in /storage/emulated/0 for me its empty :-(.
I have problems with a tasker task to move files from internal to external storage after the firmware update.
Is there any way to get access again with ftp for the full file system with root?
best regards,
Thomas
Hello,
I just want to know if it was a temporary problem or it's the same on Android 12 too ?
If not, how did you fix this problem please ?
Thank you
the problems exists still on the latest Android 12 version on S10e so still no solution yet :-(
My guess is that this isn't a problem with Android, but that your FTPd service doesn't have root access. If it doesn't have root access, it can't see the folder. If it's not "root aware" it won't be able to ask for root access either. That's my guess.
I'm not familiar with "primitive ftpd" so I don't know if it has this capability, maybe it does.
In the past, for remote access, I have used some file explorer apps that have root capability... those allowed me to remote into the phone. But that was a long time ago - these days I just connect from my phone to the network drive instead, and push files that way (instead of "pulling" from a remote server). This is safer since you aren't leaving an open FTP socket on the phone, which is a bad idea from a security standpoint.
till the last december update (this was an update i made maybe after about one year without updates) all access was fine and since then every access is impossible, its not only ftp, its tasker shell with root access too, worked before fine and now its horrible,
Samsung seems to break some folders, you can access the external sd card with /storage/emulated/[idforsdcard]/ but if you go one level up the folder /storage/emulated/ ist empty and does not show any subfolder, same if you are in /storage/emulated/0/Android and enter the data subfolder samsung takes you to /data
it is so strange what samsung does i don't understand
Thank you very much for your answer
Sorry for this ridiculous question, but even a factory reset can't help you regain access to all your folders ?
Precisely, I also see that Samsung is restricting its phones more and more so that we can't use many functions of our phones as before
I'm currently on Android 10, but with all that I hear, I'm afraid of Android 11 and Android 12
i have fresh installed VC6 Firmware (Android 12 March Update) with factory reset and all access problems still the same, so its the "scoped storage" feature and maybe some samsung addons what leads to this problems
if you want full access to your phone then Android 11 & 12 makes it hard to get and some apps are not optimized for this new scoped storage
FWIW, I have a non-rooted, pure stock phone. I can use FX to go to /storage/emulated/0 and see everything properly. I'm on A11, Snapdragon, S10+.
This implies your app is not being allowed to see the storage. This seems to confirm that it's an app issue - ie, the FTPd may not be able to deal with the new structures on A11/A12. As you noted, it might be this "Scoped Storage" feature... which the app is not able to work with?
Hi All,
Day by day, another MIUI quirk/challenge... Things that were easy and possible under other phones and stock Android versions seem ever so more challenging under MIUI....
So, I purchased a nice 128GB SD Card to go with the built in storage. Mainly for moving data around, so don't loose it...
However due to Android 4.4 and beyond, Google make it difficult to write access this. However other File Managers and Android versions in past, I've managed to re-enable this. However with this phone, so far I have not found to a way to unlock it yet??
The usual app (FX Explorer) doesn't work, says I can't unlook the root of the SD Card, only individual folders... which it then complains, isn't the root.... (yeah, I know that... you wouldn't let me unlock the root of SD).
I try MIUI Storage settings, but that has nothing in there to unlock it....
I then install Google Files, as strangley a guide says that'll work... it doesn't....
There was then a guide with the stock Xiaomi File Manager to unlock write access to SD Card, yet the options in the guide don't exist in this version. And can't see how allowing access to my Contacts in File Manager and then clearing the settings would fix it anyway?
So now running out of idea's to allow access to SD Card... T'was so simple on other Android devices.....
Cheers, Lister
Update: Seems I am not alone, many have this bug and looks not to be fixed.... or consistently fixed. Very hit and miss....
https://www.reddit.com/r/miui/comments/joxuhi
The plot thickens.... or not, so it seems !!!
So under Developer Settings, there is an options to "Force Write Access to External SD for all Apps" so I have enabled this and it has done..... diddly squat !!!
What's the point of providing an SD Card slot, with no write access...??
Lister
Hi All,
Has anyone had any luck getting an Ext SD Card to be writable between apps....?? As all the usual methods that I know of, and apps (FX) that have worked in the past, don't work.
The OS built in settings don't work, and the hidden Developer Settings to force write access don't work....
So at this point, I am racking my brians why Xiaomi even bothered to include an SD Card slot, as currently its pointless and redundant !!!
I'm having to copy it from the Internal memory, onto PC, then from PC back onto Exteral.... and it's slow as hell and doesn't always work... It's a brand new SanDisk MicroSD purchased from large retail store... So not like its some iffy thing off eBay.
Cheers, Lister
Thats, lets say, weird. i never had that problem, try finding something in the developer options?
if nothing worked, then root your phone i guess
Yeah it's very weird, I've never faced this issue on any of my other phones in the past.... Which have mainly been Samsung's.... S2, S5 and Note 1.... All old and trusty models, had no issues with those phones over the years, they were like TANKS.... just kept on working.
However this phone, I am encountering issue, after issue.... things that worked like stock/standard under normal Android are not working on MIUI.... I can't even get Ringtones to work, just have the 3x ringtones it comes with with no option to add more....
SD Card won't allow me to write at the root of the card, it says create a folder from the root of the card and then make the folder writable. I do that, then the OS complains this isn't standard practice and that I should allow the whole card.... which was what I was trying to do, when it tells me "for my own privacy" not write at the root level... Argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!! lol
I am trying not root the phone itself at the moment, as this is the most moddern and recent phone ever purchased and trying to run it as stock with banking apps.... But if pushed, I may try rooting and try masking root at a later date....
But for now, if there is any official non-root ways of making the SD Card work, would be grateful...
Cheers, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Yeah it's very weird, I've never faced this issue on any of my other phones in the past.... Which have mainly been Samsung's.... S2, S5 and Note 1.... All old and trusty models, had no issues with those phones over the years, they were like TANKS.... just kept on working.
However this phone, I am encountering issue, after issue.... things that worked like stock/standard under normal Android are not working on MIUI.... I can't even get Ringtones to work, just have the 3x ringtones it comes with with no option to add more....
SD Card won't allow me to write at the root of the card, it says create a folder from the root of the card and then make the folder writable. I do that, then the OS complains this isn't standard practice and that I should allow the whole card.... which was what I was trying to do, when it tells me "for my own privacy" not write at the root level... Argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!! lol
I am trying not root the phone itself at the moment, as this is the most moddern and recent phone ever purchased and trying to run it as stock with banking apps.... But if pushed, I may try rooting and try masking root at a later date....
But for now, if there is any official non-root ways of making the SD Card work, would be grateful...
Cheers, Lister
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Yeah the root of the sd card is not allowed a lot of phones, i have a lumia 530 (windows phone) and don't have full access, but my huawei p smart 2019 has root of the sd
Hi All,
Just gets better and better..... NOT !!!
Xiaomi why the fook have you included an SD Card reader to your phones, and Google why do you allow the user to VIEW but NOT use additional storage? Might as well remove the SD Card slot and add a 3rd SIM slot.
Then rebrand Android OS to Google-iOS, and continue to lock this sh*t down !!! Utterly pointless....
Google Issue Tracker
issuetracker.google.com
So it seems this is a known issue since Android 11, getting worse in 12 and dread to think by time of 13. So many unhappy and angry users out there over Googles latest changes... So Google lock their DocsUI storage down to secure their devices, thus users are installing unknown apks to try and re-enable it or ROOT their phones to regain the feature back. Therefore reversing what Google are trying enforce... lol
Pity I purchased a 128GB SD for this phone, might as well slamed in a 2GB for all the use it'll get...
Lister
Hi All,
<< Credit, where credit is due... as no other solution all over the web worked... other than below >>
Thanks to @xetc , with regards to this post... Ext SD Card write access has been resolved and can now make use of my 128gb Micro SD Card again... Yaaaaaaay....
Fault: If you're running Android 11, or higher. You will now find you cannot write/make use of your External MicroSD Card as Google have now blocked this. Android 10 is not as restricted, and Android 9 or below is not affected by this issue.
Solution: Download and use FX Explorer v8.0.3.0
To re-summarize steps...
1) If you already have FX Explorer installed, remove it.
2) Then download specifically FX Explorer v8.0.3.0 from your usual source.
3) Then click the top right corner, and select [Enable Write Access] at the bottom of the menu and follow prompts.
4) Once completed, reboot your phone.
5) Now test, to make sure you can write between internal to external, if all good, proceed to update.
6) Now grab the latest version of FX Explorer, once updated, re-check that you still have write access.
Happy days....
Lister
hmm
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi All,
<< Credit, where credit is due... as no other solution all over the web worked... other than below >>
Thanks to @xetc , with regards to this post... Ext SD Card write access has been resolved and can now make use of my 128gb Micro SD Card again... Yaaaaaaay....
Fault: If you're running Android 11, or higher. You will now find you cannot write/make use of your External MicroSD Card as Google have now blocked this. Android 10 is not as restricted, and Android 9 or below is not affected by this issue.
Solution: Download and use FX Explorer v8.0.3.0
To re-summarize steps...
1) If you already have FX Explorer installed, remove it.
2) Then download specifically FX Explorer v8.0.3.0 from your usual source.
3) Then click the top right corner, and select [Enable Write Access] at the bottom of the menu and follow prompts.
4) Once completed, reboot your phone.
5) Now test, to make sure you can write between internal to external, if all good, proceed to update.
6) Now grab the latest version of FX Explorer, once updated, re-check that you still have write access.
Happy days....
Lister
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Btw, on 4), I didn't need a reboot on A10, just enabled write access, then updated. Your mileage may vary, though, with A11+.
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi All,
Day by day, another MIUI quirk/challenge... Things that were easy and possible under other phones and stock Android versions seem ever so more challenging under MIUI....
So, I purchased a nice 128GB SD Card to go with the built in storage. Mainly for moving data around, so don't loose it...
However due to Android 4.4 and beyond, Google make it difficult to write access this. However other File Managers and Android versions in past, I've managed to re-enable this. However with this phone, so far I have not found to a way to unlock it yet??
The usual app (FX Explorer) doesn't work, says I can't unlook the root of the SD Card, only individual folders... which it then complains, isn't the root.... (yeah, I know that... you wouldn't let me unlock the root of SD).
I try MIUI Storage settings, but that has nothing in there to unlock it....
I then install Google Files, as strangley a guide says that'll work... it doesn't....
There was then a guide with the stock Xiaomi File Manager to unlock write access to SD Card, yet the options in the guide don't exist in this version. And can't see how allowing access to my Contacts in File Manager and then clearing the settings would fix it anyway?
So now running out of idea's to allow access to SD Card... T'was so simple on other Android devices.....
Cheers, Lister
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I changed my SD card to another version and my problems were fixed... I don't know if it will help others bud I now associate the problem with my SanDisk as it is not working in my other Redmi
Be aware that when swapping cards, even if you had previously granted card write access, you'll get into the same problem again with the new card. Is it related it to FX not relying on system file transfer app to handle permission, but doing it on its own, instead?
Equally, bookmark links, which are linked to the card's individual path (/####-####/), once you swap card, won't work anymore, either.
Unfortunately, seems none of these and other reported issues seem will ever be fixed, so maybe it's time to move on...
Btw, wonder if this still works...?: NextApp SDFix
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi All,
<< Credit, where credit is due... as no other solution all over the web worked... other than below >>
Thanks to @xetc , with regards to this post... Ext SD Card write access has been resolved and can now make use of my 128gb Micro SD Card again... Yaaaaaaay....
Fault: If you're running Android 11, or higher. You will now find you cannot write/make use of your External MicroSD Card as Google have now blocked this. Android 10 is not as restricted, and Android 9 or below is not affected by this issue.
Solution: Download and use FX Explorer v8.0.3.0
To re-summarize steps...
1) If you already have FX Explorer installed, remove it.
2) Then download specifically FX Explorer v8.0.3.0 from your usual source.
3) Then click the top right corner, and select [Enable Write Access] at the bottom of the menu and follow prompts.
4) Once completed, reboot your phone.
5) Now test, to make sure you can write between internal to external, if all good, proceed to update.
6) Now grab the latest version of FX Explorer, once updated, re-check that you still have write access.
Happy days....
Lister
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thank you also @xetc for reporting the fix first. I was experiencing this on my secondary phone with LineageOS 17.1/ Android 10.
@tliebeck can you revisit the v. 8.0.3.0 code and re-implement the way you enabled media card write access in that version back into the current version? Obviously something got twisted (and has been ever since v. 8.0.3.0 +)
Above all, thank you for your app !!
Not sure why to use FX Explorer. I use Total Commander and it works to the ext SD card fine. (NOTE: Be aware that if you update to the 3.33 version or higher, you will lose the ability to install apps manually from the SD card. Blame Google! You can solve this by signing it with your favorite app (like apk-signer) so Play won't keep telling you there is an update to the program.
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi All,
<< Credit, where credit is due... as no other solution all over the web worked... other than below >>
Thanks to @xetc , with regards to this post... Ext SD Card write access has been resolved and can now make use of my 128gb Micro SD Card again... Yaaaaaaay....
Fault: If you're running Android 11, or higher. You will now find you cannot write/make use of your External MicroSD Card as Google have now blocked this. Android 10 is not as restricted, and Android 9 or below is not affected by this issue.
Solution: Download and use FX Explorer v8.0.3.0
To re-summarize steps...
1) If you already have FX Explorer installed, remove it.
2) Then download specifically FX Explorer v8.0.3.0 from your usual source.
3) Then click the top right corner, and select [Enable Write Access] at the bottom of the menu and follow prompts.
4) Once completed, reboot your phone.
5) Now test, to make sure you can write between internal to external, if all good, proceed to update.
6) Now grab the latest version of FX Explorer, once updated, re-check that you still have write access.
Happy days....
Lister
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The old 8.0.3.0 from December 2020 is now a 7-day trial app, and step #3 does not produce any "enable write access" from the top right hamburger menu. I enabled root/developer access in its settings but no difference.
EDIT: though I see no "enable write access" anywhere the app, I can read and write to it, and send files from it to Drive, the last 2 things fail on my RN11. Both are on custom ROMs on A13. So, this has to be a developer's issue in the ROM, OR something with the card itself. I will keep testing to see what I can find.
i.e. this no longer works (NOTE: this might just be an SD card issue. I am able to write to and send files from an external SD on a different ROM on a different A13 phone - Redmi Note 10 Pro - without any permissions stalls at all using Total Commander 3.31, for example.)
xetc said:
Be aware that when swapping cards, even if you had previously granted card write access, you'll get into the same problem again with the new card. Is it related it to FX not relying on system file transfer app to handle permission, but doing it on its own, instead?
Equally, bookmark links, which are linked to the card's individual path (/####-####/), once you swap card, won't work anymore, either.
Unfortunately, seems none of these and other reported issues seem will ever be fixed, so maybe it's time to move on...
Btw, wonder if this still works...?: NextApp SDFix
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Nope. It produces an error. "Platform permission file is invalid. no groups specified in WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE"
Sheist! said:
The old 8.0.3.0 from December 2020 is now a 7-day trial app, and step #3 does not produce any "enable write access" from the top right hamburger menu. I enabled root/developer access in its settings but no difference.
i.e. this no longer works (NOTE: this might just be an SD card issue. I am able to write to and send files from an external SD on a different ROM on a different A13 phone - Redmi Note 10 Pro - without any permissions stalls at all using Total Commander 3.31, for example.)
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Hi @Sheist! ,
All versions/editions of FX Explorer are considered a Trial edition when first installed... You can enable full features for a 7 - 14x day trial to which it reverts back to limited features. You only miss out on the bonus, networking/app management and few extra controls/filesystem features.... All the core Explorer features are still there...
This method was correct and accurate at the time of testing, which I believe I was on Android 11, as I don't think A12 was around at the time. Since upgraded to A12 afterwards it has still kept write access to the SD Card enabled after the hack.
I've not tried this method on A13 yet, as I am still on stock rom. However, each release of Android, from version 10 upwards keep tweaking SD Card usage, and restricts access to it more and more... So A13 could well have issues, don't know.
Personally, when I tried Total Commander back on A11, I couldn't get it to work at all (despite reading a guide somewhere) saying to use this. I tried all the various apps out there, one even suggested using the MiExplorer. No method worked at all, apart from that very specific release of FX Explorer, and when tried worked like a charm. As it always has done since Android 4.4x when Google first started messing around with SD Cards. I believe Android developers were asked to remove such features from their File Manager apps, hence why after 8.0.3.0 this feature disappeared.
There was a method briefly, using Googles own "Files" app, known as packagename "My Documents" or something like that... This feature only worked on Android 11, and had limited access when enabled. However as this is often a system app, and without root... Trying to disable, debloat, replace this app... this method also was fiddly and didn't work.... the only sucess that worked for me was what was mentioned above.
I tried practically everything, and was at the point of giving up and annoyed I wasted money on a 128GB SD card not to be used... until I stumbled on the above. Relieved it worked, and thought if it helps others in similar position, share the info... as I read pages and pages (forums/Googles own documentation) on how its disabled, how it no longer works, workarounds that didnt work... I believe it should still work for A11, and poss A12 roms (does via upgrade), however not personally tested on A13.
Cheers, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi @Sheist! ,
All versions/editions of FX Explorer are considered a Trial edition when first installed... You can enable full features for a 7 - 14x day trial to which it reverts back to limited features. You only miss out on the bonus, networking/app management and few extra controls/filesystem features.... All the core Explorer features are still there...
This method was correct and accurate at the time of testing, which I believe I was on Android 11, as I don't think A12 was around at the time. Since upgraded to A12 afterwards it has still kept write access to the SD Card enabled after the hack.
I've not tried this method on A13 yet, as I am still on stock rom. However, each release of Android, from version 10 upwards keep tweaking SD Card usage, and restricts access to it more and more... So A13 could well have issues, don't know.
Personally, when I tried Total Commander back on A11, I couldn't get it to work at all (despite reading a guide somewhere) saying to use this. I tried all the various apps out there, one even suggested using the MiExplorer. No method worked at all, apart from that very specific release of FX Explorer, and when tried worked like a charm. As it always has done since Android 4.4x when Google first started messing around with SD Cards. I believe Android developers were asked to remove such features from their File Manager apps, hence why after 8.0.3.0 this feature disappeared.
There was a method briefly, using Googles own "Files" app, known as packagename "My Documents" or something like that... This feature only worked on Android 11, and had limited access when enabled. However as this is often a system app, and without root... Trying to disable, debloat, replace this app... this method also was fiddly and didn't work.... the only sucess that worked for me was what was mentioned above.
I tried practically everything, and was at the point of giving up and annoyed I wasted money on a 128GB SD card not to be used... until I stumbled on the above. Relieved it worked, and thought if it helps others in similar position, share the info... as I read pages and pages (forums/Googles own documentation) on how its disabled, how it no longer works, workarounds that didnt work... I believe it should still work for A11, and poss A12 roms (does via upgrade), however not personally tested on A13.
Cheers, Lister
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The problem is I have other apps that need to write to the SD and at this point they started failing. I don't suspect A13, as CherishOS does not have this issue on RN10P, OR the SD card I am using on that RN10P phone is error-free. My card would not read in the crDroid recovery in my RN11 UNTIL I formatted it in Windows with NTFS. Even formatting in the phone in exFat gives an exFat error in the incorporated crDroid recovery! This is probably still some issue with my card or its formatting, as I don't see noise on this issue from other users. My external SD was working fine for my write/copy-to apps on A13 until I fixed the issue getting it to read in crDroid recovery, which oddly I don't even need anymore! (successfully installed TWRP to ramdisk now). I need to reformat back to exFat and see where I am. If good, then I will reply again.
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi @Sheist! ,
All versions/editions of FX Explorer are considered a Trial edition when first installed... You can enable full features for a 7 - 14x day trial to which it reverts back to limited features. You only miss out on the bonus, networking/app management and few extra controls/filesystem features.... All the core Explorer features are still there...
This method was correct and accurate at the time of testing, which I believe I was on Android 11, as I don't think A12 was around at the time. Since upgraded to A12 afterwards it has still kept write access to the SD Card enabled after the hack.
I've not tried this method on A13 yet, as I am still on stock rom. However, each release of Android, from version 10 upwards keep tweaking SD Card usage, and restricts access to it more and more... So A13 could well have issues, don't know.
Personally, when I tried Total Commander back on A11, I couldn't get it to work at all (despite reading a guide somewhere) saying to use this. I tried all the various apps out there, one even suggested using the MiExplorer. No method worked at all, apart from that very specific release of FX Explorer, and when tried worked like a charm. As it always has done since Android 4.4x when Google first started messing around with SD Cards. I believe Android developers were asked to remove such features from their File Manager apps, hence why after 8.0.3.0 this feature disappeared.
There was a method briefly, using Googles own "Files" app, known as packagename "My Documents" or something like that... This feature only worked on Android 11, and had limited access when enabled. However as this is often a system app, and without root... Trying to disable, debloat, replace this app... this method also was fiddly and didn't work.... the only sucess that worked for me was what was mentioned above.
I tried practically everything, and was at the point of giving up and annoyed I wasted money on a 128GB SD card not to be used... until I stumbled on the above. Relieved it worked, and thought if it helps others in similar position, share the info... as I read pages and pages (forums/Googles own documentation) on how its disabled, how it no longer works, workarounds that didnt work... I believe it should still work for A11, and poss A12 roms (does via upgrade), however not personally tested on A13.
Cheers, Lister
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I reformatted in the phone again (exFat) and all apps work fine again to/from the external SD card. I am on TWRP so I don't care about the installed crDroid recovery issue anymore. (A13, crDroid 9.3, TWRP 3.7.0_12-0)