Hi!
Today I updated my Nexus 6 to 5.1 and something is went wrong...
When i try to boot my device into android, i Can't because its shows a dead android with a red triangle
(this is the screen where i can go into the recovery menu by pressing power on+ vol up)
i tried to flash the rom again, but the bootloader is locked because i relocked it after the 5.1 rom flash..
and i cant unlock it again because i cant boot into android to check the OEM unlock box.
i also tried wipe data, factory reset option in the recovery menu... thanks a lot for any suggestions
(sorry for my english)
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necroside007 said:
Hi!
Today I updated my Nexus 6 to 5.1 and something is went wrong...
When i try to boot my device into android, i Can't because its shows a dead android with a red triangle
(this is the screen where i can go into the recovery menu by pressing power on+ vol up)
i tried to flash the rom again, but the bootloader is locked because i relocked it after the 5.1 rom flash..
and i cant unlock it again because i cant boot into android to check the OEM unlock box.
i also tried wipe data, factory reset option in the recovery menu... thanks a lot for any suggestions
(sorry for my english)
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Why in the world would you relock the bootloader? Against commonsense it would seem. Also, there are threads on here dealing with the update and warning against relocking the boot loader. Those threads also describe efforts to recover from the situation.
wtherrell said:
Why in the world would you relock the bootloader? Against commonsense it would seem. Also, there are threads on here dealing with the update and warning against relocking the boot loader. Those threads also describe efforts to recover from the situation.
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I haven't seen anyone warning against relocking the bootloader - in fact, I see many instruction sets where relocking the bootloader is the final step, before the first reboot. Most are for returning to stock. Go ahead and use your hindsight though, you sound so smart.
And yeah, there are plenty of efforts to recover from the situation, but I'm yet to see anyone do so successfully.
necroside007 said:
Hi!
Today I updated my Nexus 6 to 5.1 and something is went wrong...
When i try to boot my device into android, i Can't because its shows a dead android with a red triangle
(this is the screen where i can go into the recovery menu by pressing power on+ vol up)
i tried to flash the rom again, but the bootloader is locked because i relocked it after the 5.1 rom flash..
and i cant unlock it again because i cant boot into android to check the OEM unlock box.
i also tried wipe data, factory reset option in the recovery menu... thanks a lot for any suggestions
(sorry for my english)
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freeman_g said:
Welcome to the club!
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AndrewZorn said:
I haven't seen anyone warning against relocking the bootloader - in fact, I see many instruction sets where relocking the bootloader is the final step, before the first reboot. Most are for returning to stock. Go ahead and use your hindsight though, you sound so smart.
And yeah, there are plenty of efforts to recover from the situation, but I'm yet to see anyone do so successfully.
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If you want to update to the newest OTA you dont need to lock the bootloader back up. The bootloader can remained unlocked when doing this. Its been posted all over XDA about not having to do this. The only time you may want to relock the bootloader is when selling it to someone or trading it in. Thats it.
AndrewZorn said:
I haven't seen anyone warning against relocking the bootloader - in fact, I see many instruction sets where relocking the bootloader is the final step, before the first reboot. Most are for returning to stock. Go ahead and use your hindsight though, you sound so smart.
And yeah, there are plenty of efforts to recover from the situation, but I'm yet to see anyone do so successfully.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3053497.
Well...I'm not browsing the XDA every day, i only come here for solutions for my problems....
wtherrell said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3053497.
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Yeah, posted this morning. What a warning to everyone who did this before.
And saying not to do something that plenty of people want to do (like, returning to stock) isn't very significant.
necroside007 said:
Well...I'm not browsing the XDA every day, i only come here for solutions for my problems....
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well not to come off rude but number one rule for xda before u post is search, and as you can tell there are multiple threads on this exact same topic.
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AndrewZorn said:
Yeah, posted this morning. What a warning to everyone who did this before.
And saying not to do something that plenty of people want to do (like, returning to stock) isn't very significant.
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returning to stock and relocking the bootloader dont go together. You can return to stock and not lock the bootloader. Locking the bootloader has nothing to do with returning a device back to stock. It returns the device back to factory state if u lock it back up. Locking the device back up only should be used for selling the device, or returning the device for repairs. not for taking a ota.
the_rooter said:
Locking the bootloader has nothing to do with returning a device back to stock. It returns the device back to factory state if u lock it back up. Locking the device back up only should be used for selling the device, or returning the device for repairs. not for taking a ota.
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Unless I want a secure device.
Unless I worry about warranty/resale in case my device is no longer operable (ie, broken screen, port, or buttons).
Unless I want my device to be stock - actually stock - as sold - which is LOCKED. You're telling me and others there's no downside to an unlocked bootloader. Well, that's wrong, and some people want a locked bootloader.
AndrewZorn said:
Unless I want a secure device.
Unless I worry about warranty/resale in case my device is no longer operable (ie, broken screen, port, or buttons).
Unless I want my device to be stock - actually stock - as sold - which is LOCKED. You're telling me and others there's no downside to an unlocked bootloader. Well, that's wrong, and some people want a locked bootloader.
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There is no downside to a unlocked bootloader. If i remember correctly a locked bootloader is only for oem to protect for warranty issues nothing to do with security that your describing. A locked bootloader or unlocked bootloader tells the oem that this device was unlocked or locked and will tell the consumer (us) that the warranty was void. Number one rule when taking a device back to OEM for repair is return to stock and lock device like I stated above. Security issues has nothing to do with the bootloader. From my understanding its just for the OEM warranty purposes Only!
Edit: what u described above is the same thing I described. Only need to lock device back up for warranty purposes or reselling. Thats it.
AndrewZorn said:
Unless I want a secure device.
Unless I worry about warranty/resale in case my device is no longer operable (ie, broken screen, port, or buttons).
Unless I want my device to be stock - actually stock - as sold - which is LOCKED. You're telling me and others there's no downside to an unlocked bootloader. Well, that's wrong, and some people want a locked bootloader.
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I posted the warning because people are not being careful. They are locking the bootloader without even checking it works. I've edited the post to say that. But if you're the sort of person that will be flashiogn a lot, a locked bootloader is not a good thing to have now because if you break recovery and cannot boot your device, you are at present - completely screwed. If you want to be stock, that shouldn't be an issue. Just be careful is all we're saying. ...and I cannot help it if my warning comes after some people have made this mistake. If no one made the mistake, I wouldn't have needed to post a warning. Can of peanuts "May contain nuts"... You know, because you know someone somewhere who was allergic to nuts, ate the nuts.
rootSU said:
I posted the warning because people are not being careful. They are locking the bootloader without even checking it works. I've edited the post to say that. But if you're the sort of person that will be flashiogn a lot, a locked bootloader is not a good thing to have now because if you break recovery and cannot boot your device, you are at present - completely screwed. If you want to be stock, that shouldn't be an issue. Just be careful is all we're saying. ...and I cannot help it if my warning comes after some people have made this mistake. If no one made the mistake, I wouldn't have needed to post a warning. Can of peanuts "May contain nuts"... You know, because you know someone somewhere who was allergic to nuts, ate the nuts.
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I have nothing against your warning - I'm glad it's there. I was replying to the other guy, saying your the existence of your warning doesn't make everyone with this problem an idiot.
Locking the bootloader without even checking it works - again - I don't often see the "reboot to make sure it works!" step before the final fastboot oem lock. Maybe I've only been reading the lousy guides.
the_rooter said:
There is no downside to a unlocked bootloader. If i remember correctly a locked bootloader is only for oem to protect for warranty issues nothing to do with security that your describing. A locked bootloader or unlocked bootloader tells the oem that this device was unlocked or locked and will tell the consumer (us) that the warranty was void. Number one rule when taking a device back to OEM for repair is return to stock and lock device like I stated above. Security issues has nothing to do with the bootloader. From my understanding its just for the OEM warranty purposes Only!
Edit: what u described above is the same thing I described. Only need to lock device back up for warranty purposes or reselling. Thats it.
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I thought that an unlocked bootloader allowed someone without 'normal' access to the files on your phone. That's why the bootloader lock/unlock wipes the device.
You're still completely missing my point with the warranty thing. Suppose my phone's unlocked and my screen breaks. Or my USB port stops working. That big unlocked logo under the Google is going to make getting a replacement really difficult.
By saying there's NO downside to unlocking the bootloader for daily use is absurd. I wanted to go back to as-shipped state for daily use, and locked bootloader is part of that. That's a reasonable goal. I don't care if there's something about the bootloader unlocked that you find valuable. I got tired of the tinkering and decided I just wanted my Nexus 6 to be back the way it was - completely.
AndrewZorn said:
I have nothing against your warning - I'm glad it's there. I was replying to the other guy, saying your the existence of your warning doesn't make everyone with this problem an idiot.
Locking the bootloader without even checking it works - again - I don't often see the "reboot to make sure it works!" step before the final fastboot oem lock. Maybe I've only been reading the lousy guides.
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If guides don't say that at the moment, they definitely should now. I'll look at ours here and ask the OP's to update.
AndrewZorn said:
I have nothing against your warning - I'm glad it's there. I was replying to the other guy, saying your the existence of your warning doesn't make everyone with this problem an idiot.
Locking the bootloader without even checking it works - again - I don't often see the "reboot to make sure it works!" step before the final fastboot oem lock. Maybe I've only been reading the lousy guides.
I thought that an unlocked bootloader allowed someone without 'normal' access to the files on your phone. That's why the bootloader lock/unlock wipes the device.
You're still completely missing my point with the warranty thing. Suppose my phone's unlocked and my screen breaks. Or my USB port stops working. That big unlocked logo under the Google is going to make getting a replacement really difficult.
By saying there's NO downside to unlocking the bootloader for daily use is absurd. I wanted to go back to as-shipped state for daily use, and locked bootloader is part of that. That's a reasonable goal.
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Root access is for the special files. and also i had the same issues u mentioned above and i always found a way to return a device to stock.
1) broken screen- repaired myself
2) broken usb port - repaired myself
I only take in for warranties if it has to do with something that I cant fix myself. This is a risk that all users take in this hobby.
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Root access is for the special files. and also i had the same issues u mentioned above and i always found a way to return a device to stock.
1) broken screen- repaired myself
2) broken usb port - repaired myself
I only take in for warranties if it has to do with something that I cant fix myself. This is a risk that all users take in this hobby.
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Alright, so how do I return mine to stock?
Your self-repair solutions are laughable. You're completely missing the point. I'm done arguing this.
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Alright, so how do I return mine to stock?
Your self-repair solutions are laughable. You're completely missing the point. I'm done arguing this.
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its not laughable. unless u buy an extended warranty the warranty is up after a year so you would have to figure the work yourself. If you are in the boat where u locked it back up and took the ota and bootlooping or whatever. your stuck till there is a solution. if u want to return to stock . Just return to stock but dont lock the bootloader back up, and flash. its that simple.
Edit: we are not arguing. Its just i have my way on repairs and you have yours. its a debate i guess
Edit: this issue has been brought up and is being researched. i was talking about the returning to stock for repairs dont try and put words in my mouth saying i know a fix.
After unlocking Z2 Plus bootloader, started to showing up on boot before logo splash:
"Your device has been unlocker and can't be trusted
To learn more, visit:
g.com/placeholder
If no key pressed:
You device will boot in 5 seconds"
Anyone knows how can I get rid of this message?
Already tried to flash factory splash.img with no success!
Thanks in advance!
there is no way you can get rid of this warning because i think it's deeply written in the kernel or your phone
I remember removing that screen on my old Moto G by flashing a custom boot image, I don't know if it's possible with this device as well, gotta do some research I guess.
ruhanboom said:
Actually you can get rid of it but you'd end up losing your unlocked bootloader
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I locked my bootloader again, but it is still there. Not sure if it really can be removed.
ruhanboom said:
Well then you still have a unlocked bootloader how did you lock your bootloader anyway?
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You are right mate...
I checked it this morning by connecting it to the PC and see there the state was still unlocked. Now I have locked it again to get the latest update.
Thanks
Anyone checked if there is /logo partition? That way it was possible to "hide" this message on Moto X Play (and probably other Lenovo-Motorola devices).
ok, so I've heard a few people lock their bootloaders after flashing twrp a new ROM and rooting now I've heard this has screwed people over before, but id just like to know is it wise, this is mainly just to get rid of the bootloader unlocked splash screen.
Locking the bootloader is a terrible idea if you intend to keep root and TWRP. If anything goes wrong, you're likely going to brick your phone with no way of restoring data.
If you do want to relock your bootloader to remove the bootup warning, completely revert your phone back to stock first (including recovery, OS, and kernel).
I think when you relock or unlock your bootloader it wil wipe internal storage so be sure when you relock or unlock your bootloader.Its an splash screen click on power button and its gone in a second so i really dont know why people are still talking about the splash screen?
Im trying to relock my bootloader for trade-in as Ive upgraded to the P5.
When locking bootloader, it shows its locked, but then displays "cant find valid os" screen when trying to boot. I can still go back and unlock bootloader and boot back up just fine. I just cant relock it for some reason. Ive done this before on past Pixels, I dont know what the problem is.
Any ideas? What am I missing?
JJT211 said:
Im trying to relock my bootloader for trade-in as Ive upgraded to the P5.
When locking bootloader, it shows its locked, but then displays "cant find valid os" screen when trying to boot. I can still go back and unlock bootloader and boot back up just fine. I just cant relock it for some reason. Ive done this before on past Pixels, I dont know what the problem is.
Any ideas? What am I missing?
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It's annoying when that happens.
What normally works for me is factory reset it, let it boot to setup then lock.
did you try the original download software?he have the lock/unlock option for bootloader and flash os you want.
If the above advice fails to get you the results you want...
I would go download the latest factory image and flash it with the -w still in the script. Let it do it's thing and reboot, it'll reset everything to stock. Do a factory reset afterwards for good measure. Once that is done, go ahead and lock the boot-loader. Just beware that if the phone is not completely stock when relocking, it potentially could brick the phone.
Flashing factory image did the trick. Thanks
im also here. just bought a new pixel so i gave my pixel 4xl to her. So i relocked the bootloader to set it up as "new"
no i cant find valid os, bootloader is locked. and i cant unlock it... what have i done =)
solved it with flashtool.
I just wanna use this thread as an opportunity to give some old-school advice... Unless you are selling or retuning for warranty, there is no good reason for relocking the bootloader. In my opinion the risks outweigh the rewards.
Carry on... Lol
CyberpodS2 said:
I just wanna use this thread as an opportunity to give some old-school advice... Unless you are selling or retuning for warranty, there is no good reason for relocking the bootloader. In my opinion the risks outweigh the rewards.
Carry on... Lol
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CyberpodS2 said:
I just wanna use this thread as an opportunity to give some old-school advice... Unless you are selling or retuning for warranty, there is no good reason for relocking the bootloader. In my opinion the risks outweigh the rewards.
Carry on... Lol
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Wholeheartedly agree, with one caveat. With Google's implementation of their hardware attestation shenanigans earlier this year (which checks to see if the bootloader is unlocked), there might be some that don't want to root and use the various mods or use a custom kernel to bypass that so they can pass ctsProfile and use banking apps, etc., and thus may want to go completely stock and relock their bootloader.
But yeah, in general it's a bad idea.
So I flashed Havoc OS on my RMX2020 and while it's running just fine, I was wondering if it's possible to get rid of that orange state nag screen upon unlocking the boot loader. I've seen guides on YouTube and elsewhere but I'm a little hesitant to apply it due to bricking risks.
Also, how do I revert to stock properly once I get sick and tired of custom OSes?
As far as I know Orange State status is triggered by unlocked bootloader. I have it too so far have no problem since it's only few text on boot up and do no harm to the phone itself. ( It's just some kind of warning that you have unlocked your bootloader )
Peanut2R said:
As far as I know Orange State status is triggered by unlocked bootloader. I have it too so far have no problem since it's only few text on boot up and do no harm to the phone itself. ( It's just some kind of warning that you have unlocked your bootloader )
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It's still nonetheless an annoyance though.
blakegriplingph said:
It's still nonetheless an annoyance though.
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orange_state_disabler_MTK Only.zip
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Install using PBRP or TWRP and the annoying Orange State will disappear. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub79hrwW7S0