Wanting to get the phone and see how the US versions(snapdragon)of the S8+ are starting to get root. Wondering if many of you think this trend will follow with the Note 8 Snapdragon versions?
I say just sit back and wait.
Yes, it has been said the snapdragon will get root with a possible of 80% limit on the battery just like the s8.
All we can do is wait and see
the Snapdragon models will probably get root sooner or later, but the Exynos ones seem to already have a method. I'm about to take the plunge on it myself.
The Note 8 US models will get root. Just be patient the phone just came out on the 15th. I have had multiple phones with locked bootloaders and every time some hard working people find a way to root them. This phone will have root soon.
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the Snapdragon models will probably get root sooner or later, but the Exynos ones seem to already have a method. I'm about to take the plunge on it myself.
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Yes twrp and root already available for exynos versions...always within the first week of launch it seems.
Snapdragons....who knows lol. Will likely get some form of root with certain issues as usual. Will never get twrp.
Dont waste your money on snapdragon if development matters to you.
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
Exynos and it already has root and twrp
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Rooting a locked bootloader phone is much like running homebrew or a flat-out custom firmware on a game console.
Determined individuals will find a way, but it'll take quite some time and rely on security exploits that could just as easily be used for nefarious purposes, so don't be surprised if they get patched out in future updates.
Meanwhile, you could just get a device with an unlocked bootloader and be on your merry way, but that only applies to Exynos variants and maybe the Snapdragon variant sold in Hong Kong. Needless to say, that makes things a pain for North American buyers for a litany of reasons - doubly so if you're on Sprint or Verizon due to lack of CDMA support on Exynos.
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Rooting a locked bootloader phone is much like running homebrew or a flat-out custom firmware on a game console.
Determined individuals will find a way, but it'll take quite some time and rely on security exploits that could just as easily be used for nefarious purposes, so don't be surprised if they get patched out in future updates.
Meanwhile, you could just get a device with an unlocked bootloader and be on your merry way, but that only applies to Exynos variants and maybe the Snapdragon variant sold in Hong Kong. Needless to say, that makes things a pain for North American buyers for a litany of reasons - doubly so if you're on Sprint or Verizon due to lack of CDMA support on Exynos.
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This is all true. There really isn't a reason to root the Snapdragon variant unless you absolutely need it for an app that requires root. You can't run any custom ROMs on a phone with a locked bootloader, even if it is rooted.
Just like with the S7/Edge Snapdragons, they had root but it was so unreliable I could never really keep my phone rooted. There were severe battery drain issues, lag and more and these issues remain today for people still trying to root that phone.
I still have my old reliable Note 5 rooted and I still it today even though I have a Note 8 now.
Does anyone know if rooting the note8 will trigger Knox?
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Does anyone know if rooting the note8 will trigger Knox?
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Yes it does.
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This is all true. There really isn't a reason to root the Snapdragon variant unless you absolutely need it for an app that requires root. You can't run any custom ROMs on a phone with a locked bootloader, even if it is rooted.
Just like with the S7/Edge Snapdragons, they had root but it was so unreliable I could never really keep my phone rooted. There were severe battery drain issues, lag and more and these issues remain today for people still trying to root that phone.
I still have my old reliable Note 5 rooted and I still it today even though I have a Note 8 now.
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This. Sure snapdragons will get root but it won't be for months and it will limit battery to 80%. Plus no twrp or custom roms. Not worth it imho. That's why if root and roms are important to you, Exynos is your only real option.
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will there be root for this phone on att or will it have the same issues as the note 4?
rtubbs85 said:
will there be root for this phone on att or will it have the same issues as the note 4?
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same issues. They said they will not support unlocked bootloaders..
http://androidandme.com/2013/08/car...upport-unlocked-bootloaders-once-and-for-all/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tloaders-so-stop-asking-us-about-every-phone/
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same issues. They said they will not support unlocked bootloaders..
http://androidandme.com/2013/08/car...upport-unlocked-bootloaders-once-and-for-all/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tloaders-so-stop-asking-us-about-every-phone/
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Those are from 2 years ago IVe had rooted phones since then.
What I'm saying is if they said that back then why was I able to get root on other phones?
Root <> unlocked bootloader....
That being said, no one knows if it will get root or not. It depends if a suitable exploit is discovered to do it. 5.1.1 plugs a few of the known exploits, so it won't happen the exact same way it did in the S6.
Only time will tell.
Also keep in mind that root can mean different things too... Permanent, temporary, root but with no system modification, etc... No one knows which we will get, if any.
keep in mind that most of the talented Devs have abandoned Samsung, so that might make it even worse
Doesn't the Note 5 have the same hardware as the S6/S6E? Seems like it should be able to be done like those phones but I don't know if that's true or not.
I'm thinking about getting this phone, but will hold off until proven root on AT&T.
I just saw this article, so maybe I'll stay with my HTC:
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/samsun...d-features-att-and-verizon-models-wont-468357
The Verizon and AT&T models have a carrier specific mechanism, which is apart of the Samsung Knox Security Suite, Samsung Knox director of business development Ram Motipally detailed to iDigitalTimes at a recent briefing in New York prior to the Galaxy Note 5 and S6 Edge+ launch. “In most of the U.S. devices, if you root the device the device won’t even boot up; if it’s AT&T or Verizon,” he said.
Hi All,
Can someone PLEASE explain me howcome the Exynos variant's bootloader is unlockable while his Snapdragon counterpart is not? was it made in purpose from Samsung's side?
Is this bootloader unlocking of the Snapdragon variant is "dead end" 100% and he who wants custom recovery (TWRP) on Note 8 should obtain ONLY the Exynos variant ?
Thank you very much
Yes its dead it wont happen
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Yes its dead it wont happen
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Alright then I'll sell my SM-N950U1 and purchase a new Android based phone that has a custom recovery option in XDA.
Any suggestions? does the note 8 has the best specs?
I'm changing to htc
rpz79 said:
Alright then I'll sell my SM-N950U1 and purchase a new Android based phone that has a custom recovery option in XDA.
Any suggestions? does the note 8 has the best specs?
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So you purchased a $1000 phone... without understanding the limitations?
myechophone said:
So you purchased a $1000 phone... without understanding the limitations?
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Facepalm
myechophone said:
So you purchased a $1000 phone... without understanding the limitations?
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Unfortunately yes
This is my 2nd note and 4th galaxy
I only had Samsung's and they all were fully rooted with custom recovery.
This is the first and last time I buy cell phone with a locked bootloader i.e doesn't have TWRP option.
I don't need much TWRP as I need Xposed (although NAND backup could be very useful) but it seems they have a correlation.
I will sell this phone and buy the Exynos variant.
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Unfortunately yes
This is my 2nd note and 4th galaxy
I only had Samsung's and they all were fully rooted with custom recovery.
This is the first and last time I buy cell phone with a locked bootloader i.e doesn't have TWRP option.
I don't need much TWRP as I need Xposed (although NAND backup could be very useful) but it seems they have a correlation.
I will sell this phone and buy the Exynos variant.
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Yeah that's the best thing you could do. Honestly rooting and roms dien breed unfortunately. It hurts me to say that I am a die hard fan of it. I knew my model didn't have the best for root before I bought. Phone has the most sought after features.
I mean look at apple even copying a lot of samsung. That says something. I got my model because my carrier offered a more affordable payment plan then samsung. Once One plus catches up with samsung features that will be the phone to buy for sure.
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Once One plus catches up with samsung features that will be the phone to buy for sure.
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Unfortunately it will cost just as much if not more.....
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Unfortunately it will cost just as much if not more.....
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Samsung vast amount of features with one plus vast root/rom community= Dream come true and take my 1k please.
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Samsung vast amount of features with one plus vast root/rom community= Dream come true and take my 1k please.
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Only if they stay true to the developement community.
Samsung used to be happy to support the developement community too, they had active representatives on our forums and every time a new phone came out, the new apps and feature that had been created here were suddenly incorporated into the new "Official Firmware"...
They even poached devs to work for them..
Then came KNOX and the end of Samsung support, though they do still seem to look for ideas to incorporate into their firmware for the latest devices at the best price to them, free...
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Only if they stay true to the developement community.
Samsung used to be happy to support the developement community too, they had active representatives on our forums and every time a new phone came out, the new apps and feature that had been created here were suddenly incorporated into the new "Official Firmware"...
They even poached devs to work for them..
Then came KNOX and the end of Samsung support, though they do still seem to look for ideas to incorporate into their firmware for the latest devices at the best price to them, free...
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That is definitely true. I remember having galaxy 1,2,3 and it was Rom heaven. I don't see One Plus going that route though. They started from the gate with Rom openness and listening.
I definitely think it's wrong how all the big phone makers turned there back on Rom community. Most of the great features phones have now days is because of developers. Then constraint that wtf?
No one have yet to explain why the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader.
Was is it deliberate by Samsung i.e lock the Snapdragon BL and unlock the Exynos BL ?
or was it through an effort of the XDA community to unlock it?
Im happy without root. Since we can do so many tweaks woth ADB and we also have apps. Like disconnet pro or adhell which only works on samsung phones to remove ads on apps. (Hate those vpn software like blokada adguard etc). Other things like getting spotify apps free ads. Youtube app free ads can all be found here if u look for it. Not sure why i would need root now.
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No one have yet to explain why the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader.
Was is it deliberate by Samsung i.e lock the Snapdragon BL and unlock the Exynos BL ?
or was it through an effort of the XDA community to unlock it?
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Has a lot to do with Carriers and Manufacturers.
Greed-
Choking innovation-
Little bit of security-
They know Roms can prolong the life of a phone and have features that the next device has. Of course they want you to buy over priced products every year.
Basically Androids turning into Apple. Google this if you will. Apple charges $1k for iphone x, yet only costs them $357 to make. That's incredible greedy returns.
Most of us at XDA know all this, but what can we do? We just say screw it and buy atleast the best android phone. You want root/rom? Stick to international/manufactured versions. Also make sure that international version has bootloader Unlock. Best bet is OnePlus latest phone for Root/Roms experience.
Alternatively can they not produce a "developer" edition of the Note 8 with no Knox at all and no locked bootloader?
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Stick to international/manufactured versions. Best bet is OnePlus latest phone for Root/Roms experience.
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I thought I bought an international one the SM-N950U1 is carrier unlocked. The irony is that I bought in the US to spare 100-200$ but where I currently live they sell the Exynos variant.
It's such a shame they (Samsung) doesn't give us the option to choose if want Knox or not. I'll try to sell my phone and buy a rootable with unlocked bootloader phone the Exynos variant is a possibility. They lost me as a devoted customer I can tell you.
Anyhow from what I understand the Exynos variant had an unlocked bootloader in the first place. No one had to nothing to unlock it.
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Alternatively can they not produce a "developer" edition of the Note 8 with no Knox at all and no locked bootloader?
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Limeybastard said:
Alternatively can they not produce a "developer" edition of the Note 8 with no Knox at all and no locked bootloader?
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Exynos only option. They won't do that because they hate unlocked bootloaders. I am amazed international version has unlocked bootloaders. Probably because they can't it's not carrier locked. Legal reasons as well guessing. Sure that pisses off the manufactures, lol @ them.
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I thought I bought an international one the SM-N950U1 is carrier unlocked. The irony is that I bought in the US to spare 100-200$ but where I currently live they sell the Exynos variant.
It's such a shame they (Samsung) doesn't give us the option to choose if want Knox or not. I'll try to sell my phone and buy a rootable with unlocked bootloader phone the Exynos variant is a possibility. They lost me as a devoted customer I can tell you.
Anyhow from what I understand the Exynos variant had an unlocked bootloader in the first place. No one had to nothing to unlock it.
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It's not just Samsung bro. Pretty much all of them do it. Like I said before always stick to international with phones for unlocked bootloaders. Gotta find which version is bootloader unlocked 1st. Because you get screwed like you did. Especially if you care about root/roms. I myself knew I'd be screwed before even buying snapdragon Note 8. But carrier had best affordable payment plans.
$200 down and $20 month. Plus able to jump to new phone anytime. Hard to say no to that. This phone pricing ability due to carrier and packed features. Made it easy to over look root/rom. I miss Roms dearly though. Idc what anyone says Roms poop on ANY stock.
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Exynos only option. They won't do that because they hate unlocked bootloaders. I am amazed international version has unlocked bootloaders. Probably because they can't it's not carrier locked. Legal reasons as well guessing. Sure that pisses off the manufactures, lol @ them.
It's not just Samsung bro. Pretty much all of them do it. Like I said before always stick to international with phones for unlocked bootloaders. Especially if you care about root/roms. I myself knew I'd be screwed before even buying snapdragon Note 8. But carrier had best affordable payment plans.
$200 down and $20 month. Plus able to jump to new phone anytime. Hard to say no to that. This phone pricing ability due to carrier and packed features. Made it easy to over look root/rom. I miss Roms dearly though. Idc what anyone says Roms poop on ANY stock.
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Last Note with unlocked bootloader was the T Mobile Note 3 I owned.
I'm happy with stock N8 on tmo. Lots of "stuff" already can be done. I also use Substratum.
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Limeybastard said:
Last Note with unlocked bootloader was the T Mobile Note 3 I owned.
I'm happy with stock N8 on tmo. Lots of "stuff" already can be done. I also use Substratum.
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Roms have come a long way since Note 3 lol. Not try sound like a smart AO to you. But when was last time used a Rom? Bro for example Res remix is breathtaking with the features. My last phone had that Rom. Made stock look like a welfare case.
Not going to lie Samsung does have best stock IMO out of other stock androids.
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
You answered you own question. If they are "working on it" then it means it's not possible, no?
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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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I'm sure someone somewhere is working on it, but don't count on it ever happening. Oreo pretty much sealed up all the loopholes used for root.
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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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Not possible, and not likely to change.
Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days
Phazonclash said:
Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days
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there are ways of getting around these broken features
bober10113 said:
only for people jn the us and canada. the rest of the world has no issues. so id only agree that buying the wrong phone does suck.
but what dosent suck is making the right choice.
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Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks
bober10113 said:
there are ways of getting around these broken features
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Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.
Phazonclash said:
Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks
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Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.
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i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams
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i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams
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When you use Samsung Pay everyday, it's not trivial. And Android Pay is not equal to Samsung Pay. If it were, then I would just get a Pixel.
I'm not trying to validate anything. You stated there were ways around three tripped Knox, and there's not. Not for Samsung Pay and Secure Folder. And I'm not arguing saying people shouldn't root. It's your phone, do what you want with it. I just don't want people getting the impression they can trip Knox, then work around it. That's not true.
And as far as why argue when my phone can't be rooted anyway? Well, why did you come here debating in a thread about a phone that can't be rooted. I wasn't even debating the merits of rooting with you, I was just stating a fact. Troll somewhere else, Troll.
Hey
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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alanifotis said:
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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Really? OMG i was going to order one. How is possible that they can't even know that? Those bastards ????
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though
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if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though
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Also true, LOL
Why can't the snap dragon variant be rooted?
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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Sometimes I wish XDA has a FQA thread for every device, so we don't get at least one thread of every page that has people asking how/when/why questions regarding SD variants getting root. I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously. The question is valid, and the answer is not intuitive to newcomers, yet somehow the knowing the answer seem to be some kind of unspoken prerequisite, which is strange.
Also, never trust customer service representatives knowing correct answers regarding root/bootloader, be it Best Buy, your carrier, or even Samsung. You are very likely to get a more accurate answer here on this forum, from people who actually own the device model.
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I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
Don't ask why, because I don't know, but that's the difference. And since the S7/Edge, the US bootloader has NOT been unlockable, despite the best efforts of developers. It's just simply impossible.
And despite what the people at Best Buy say, the N960W is not rootable or bootloader unlockable. I doubt they even know what it means. As was stated, if it were possible, people here in the US would be buying N960Ws or flashing the N960W firmware to unlock the Bootloader.
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I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously.
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LOL. I don't think they take it seriously enough. That is why it's asked over and over and over again.
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The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
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Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.
DAGr8 said:
Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.
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No. It's been said over and over in this thread the N960W is NOT bootloader unlockable. It doesn't matter what firmware you put on it. It can NOT be bootloader unlocked. I don't need an official statement from Samsung to tell me it can't be unlocked.
The 9600 is the only SnapDragon device that can be bootloader unlocked.
Hello,
is it rootable? Maybe I am overlooking it, but I am not seeing a definitive answer; moreover, is there custom roms available for it? If so, which ones do you suggest?!
Thank yoU!
wwe9112 said:
Hello,
is it rootable? Maybe I am overlooking it, but I am not seeing a definitive answer; moreover, is there custom roms available for it? If so, which ones do you suggest?!
Thank yoU!
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yup oversight on your part. for a while now, carriers have no impact of if a device is rootable or not. search and learn how to find out what model you have, then look at the 2 sections concerning rom developments. you will see that the model you have dosent match any of the 2. anyways the info is all there if you take the time to read and search a tiny bit. a rule of thumb here is that any samsung device from north America since the last 4 or 5 or so( not to confuse with carrier) cant be rooted. there was root at very precise point in time on the note 8 and probably s8?(cant confirm for s9) for north American devices but you had to be on a particular firmware and not update your device ever again. But note 9 from NA, nothing yet and it dosent look good( 1 year later and no root, outcome looks bleak). as you can see if you have rooting needs its never good to buy american(or canadian) because even if you can root ure stuck with conditions and likely not have a recovery to backup and flash roms.( flashfire could have probably flash zip though but anyways this ancient history at this point)
anyways the rest of the planet can root their samsung fones though so just goes to show how evil carriers are and how the government dosent care. alot of people state that its they're right but everyone knows companies run america so... that generally won't change for a long while.
but lately, apparently there is one exception to the rule regarding bootlaoder unlockability(thus the ability to root),: Sprint's gs10 5g can have its BL unlocked which was shocking and not to sure why samsung provided different devices to sprint and not the rest of the carriers. but that has nothing do to with the note 9.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/164057105750
Just bought this today but now i see there ain't much for this model here, all i see is for the SM-G973F model but can the SM-G973U be rooted and use the roms for the G973F?
Replicatorz said:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/164057105750
Just bought this today but now i see there ain't much for this model here, all i see is for the SM-G973F model but can the SM-G973U be rooted and use the roms for the G973F?
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Nope, you cannot cross firmwares. Your phone is also bootloader locked with no way to unlock it. There's no root method yet either and probably won't be. I have the G975U (U.S. Galaxy S10+), so I am in the same boat as far as root and bootloader goes.
StoneyJSG said:
Nope, you cannot cross firmwares. Your phone is also bootloader locked with no way to unlock it. There's no root method yet either and probably won't be. I have the G975U (U.S. Galaxy S10+), so I am in the same boat as far as root and bootloader goes.
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I should of checked the model number to see what was available for it before i bought it but i guess i will have to deal unless by chance something is done about it which won't happen as everybody is gonna work on the s20 now. I wish phones were more like computers in which you can use whatever the hell you want on them, idk why carriers have such a issue with it since people will still pay for their services all the same.
Replicatorz said:
I should of checked the model number to see what was available for it before i bought it but i guess i will have to deal unless by chance something is done about it which won't happen as everybody is gonna work on the s20 now. I wish phones were more like computers in which you can use whatever the hell you want on them, idk why carriers have such a issue with it since people will still pay for their services all the same.
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The S9 just got root like a month or 2 ago. The S10 and up have greater security measures to overcome, which has been a dead end to people trying to find a root method.
Carriers argue that root "takes away from the user experience." What that means to me is they don't want people who know nothing about how these phones work poking around and messing crap up and then returning the phone or claiming insurance or warranty or whatever. Some phones can be bootloader unlocked via the manufacturer like HTC (they used to offer OEM bootloader unlocks, they may have stopped I don't know). I think the One Plus phones come rooted (not sure though) and I believe the Pixel phone line are easily rooted (again not sure, so don't quote me).
StoneyJSG said:
The S9 just got root like a month or 2 ago. The S10 and up have greater security measures to overcome, which has been a dead end to people trying to find a root method.
Carriers argue that root "takes away from the user experience." What that means to me is they don't want people who know nothing about how these phones work poking around and messing crap up and then returning the phone or claiming insurance or warranty or whatever. Some phones can be bootloader unlocked via the manufacturer like HTC (they used to offer OEM bootloader unlocks, they may have stopped I don't know). I think the One Plus phones come rooted (not sure though) and I believe the Pixel phone line are easily rooted (again not sure, so don't quote me).
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My first smartphone was a HTC One Vx i do believe and that was where i learned to root phones on, then i had a galaxy s6 which i rooted aswell, then a LG Stylo 3 but LG doesn't seem to be friendly to rooting either. I was thinking of getting a HTC u12 instead of the s10 but went with the s10 cause of price, now i wish i would of just got the htc u12, i think htc's are comparable to galaxy's myself, but galaxies are more mainstram choice cause of high quality materials.
Edit: This is most likely bs? https://www.recovery-mode.com/andro...amsung-galaxy-s10-sm-g973u-android-9-pie.html
Replicatorz said:
My first smartphone was a HTC One Vx i do believe and that was where i learned to root phones on, then i had a galaxy s6 which i rooted aswell, then a LG Stylo 3 but LG doesn't seem to be friendly to rooting either. I was thinking of getting a HTC u12 instead of the s10 but went with the s10 cause of price, now i wish i would of just got the htc u12, i think htc's are comparable to galaxy's myself, but galaxies are more mainstram choice cause of high quality materials.
Edit: This is most likely bs? https://www.recovery-mode.com/andro...amsung-galaxy-s10-sm-g973u-android-9-pie.html
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Yeah only the exynos variants can be rooted with the exception of the Hong Kong variant which has a snapdragon and can be rooted. The Sprint 5G version can also be rooted. That link you posted is probably BS given nobody here in the forums in talking about it. It could be real though, but as far as I know the OEM unlock option is either not present on the G973U or is present and just does nothing when activated. Someone else with more knowledge of it might chime in, hopefully they do because now I am curious.
Replicatorz said:
I should of checked the model number to see what was available for it before i bought it but i guess i will have to deal unless by chance something is done about it which won't happen as everybody is gonna work on the s20 now. I wish phones were more like computers in which you can use whatever the hell you want on them, idk why carriers have such a issue with it since people will still pay for their services all the same.
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LOL, or just Googled it. It's pretty old news that's been out since the phone was released.