Lag from home screen to app draw? - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Hi all,
As title suggests really, I noticed on my Note 8 that swiping to the app draw and back produces bit of a delay/glitch when flicking between the two, even on high performance mode - Does anyone else have this?
Really annoying as the rest of the device is very smooth but at the minute, my old S6 Edge Plus on android 7 feels just as quick to use, which is disappointing.

The latest update to the launcher on the S8 got rid of that lag and added the ability to pull down notifications with the a swipe down motion anywhere on the home screens. It looks like the launcher on the Note 8 is a little behind so hopefully we'll get that update soon.

I use Nova with no lag.

I use stock and it's the fastest I have ever had on a Sammy between home and app drawer. I regularly swipe up down for fun as it's great to watch. Mybe you have an app slowing you down. Also get DEVELOPER rights in settings and turn off all those 1x speed settings on graphics.

ekerbuddyeker said:
I use stock and it's the fastest I have ever had on a Sammy between home and app drawer. I regularly swipe up down for fun as it's great to watch. Mybe you have an app slowing you down. Also get DEVELOPER rights in settings and turn off all those 1x speed settings on graphics.
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Odd you mention that as mine is completely stock and I first noticed this when I first turned it on, so I hadn't even started installing my own apps yet.
Maybe I should re-flash it and see if that'll help.

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slight 'jerky' animation?

just got my razr i here in the uk. love the device so far. fantastic form factor and importantly for me, a superb battery life one things nagging me though...is anyone else seeing a slight 'jerky' animation? i see it when swiping left to the 'quick settings' screen and when pressing the apps button. once in the apps though the left <> right swiping is perfect! pressing the home button from the home screen to show 'manage pages' too is pretty jerky or laggy but not sure if that is how it should be this guy sees it initailly when starting the game just before 4.00 mins in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SILUVIwiNF0
but once the game is running all seems ok. this guy i can see it at 1.57 when he swipes left from the homescreen to the 'quick settings'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rfud0GFXRg&feature=related
seems like it occurs when at some places within the phone but not everywhere. have i been spoilt using a nexus for the past week running a silky smooth jellybean vs this running ics? or is it a defective unit?
I would say on mine there is the slightest pause when moving to the quick settings that I hadn't noticed before! I hope it doesn't bug me now!!
Going to the manage pages screen or indeed the "helicopter view" (pinch zoom on the homescreen) is really jerky. But I dont find any noticeable lag or jerkiness anywhere else. In fact I find the whole experience smoother and slicker than even my Nexus 7. The only better Android experience I had was Jelly Bean on the Galaxy Nexus which is super silky.
Jelly Bean is slightly faster at a number of things especially switching screen context as the CPU is ramped to a high clock speed as soon as you touch the screen. I noticed the improvement in opening things like the app drawer when I had my Galaxy Nexus and upgraded to JB.
The Jones said:
I would say on mine there is the slightest pause when moving to the quick settings that I hadn't noticed before! I hope it doesn't bug me now!!
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ooops sorry about that! :laugh:well i've adjusted both 'window animation scale' and 'transition animation scale' from 1x to off and that certainly speeds the whole ics experience up so that is worth doing if you have not. hope it does not affect the phone in another adverse way though
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ooops sorry about that! :laugh:well i've adjusted both 'window animation scale' and 'transition animation scale' from 1x to off and that certainly speeds the whole ics experience up so that is worth doing if you have not. hope it does not affect the phone in another adverse way though
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Does that not disbale animations?
don't think so. just seems to speed things up a touch.
This does indeed deactivate some Animations but only the ones Navigating in Apps or Settings and so on.
The actual Launcher Animation is not changed at all.
I have the same lag and its not so bad but still somehow annoying.
Didn't noticed that so much in all the test videos out there.
Someone tried to do a hard reset and start from scratch? Maybe fixes it.
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Does that not disbale animations?
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I noticed really jerky animations on an M I saw at a Verizon kiosk, and the i seems to be fine from videos I see.

Google seems to have screwed it up with this one...

5.0 was something I really looked forward to...once I got around to flashing it however, man it's taking a huge decrease in the performance department compared to 4.4.4. Here are some of the things I noticed:
1. Laggy UI overall - opening apps, loading, caching is all much slower now - not the animations, just the time lag before the animation/after animation.
2. Bad battery life - is it me or has the battery really taken a hit? Today I got out of the house at 8AM and by 3PM I get the 15% battery saver notification. With about 2.5 hrs of SOT. Before I used to get at least 3+.
3. Unnecessary animations - I do not understand the whole "logical part" of L's animations. They claim apps now "open from somewhere". All I'm seeing is that they slide up now. IMO, it was more logical before, the app used to extend diagonally FROM its icon itself. On top of that, the animations are more laggy too.
4. Colours/Icons - what is with the colour choices of teal, etc. in the backgrounds and all over the UI? Starting to look like Touchwiz. And, the triangle/square/circle are totally random choices of shapes...the arrow, home, etc. were more logical.
5. Google Apps - Google apps are ever-more confusing to use now with a plethora of headings under the swipe menus (i.e. Gmail, Inbox, Photos, etc.). More importantly, the font is now super small...the nice big font in KitKat was way nicer and had easy-to-understand menus. Chrome is way worse - tabs have become "apps" and the only way to switch between them is to access recent apps. No more new tab button, no more swipe between tabs, and it crashes like no tomorrow. Calendar is so-so..it's harder to delete events now.
Overall KitKat was way smoother, cleaner UI, very accessible, but only lacked a couple key features. Looks like Project Butter is gone. An update is fast needed.
The Good:
Dialer and Messenger apps are far better than the stock on KitKat (UI/usability-wise). I really like lock-screen notifications.
(1) Wat? No lag here. (stock, no root)
Won't comment about (2) and above (yet).
OnlySkills said:
5.0 was something I really looked forward to...once I got around to flashing it however, man it's taking a huge decrease in the performance department compared to 4.4.4. Here are some of the things I noticed:
1. Laggy UI overall - opening apps, loading, caching is all much slower now - not the animations, just the time lag before the animation/after animation.
2. Bad battery life - is it me or has the battery really taken a hit? Today I got out of the house at 8AM and by 3PM I get the 15% battery saver notification. With about 2.5 hrs of SOT. Before I used to get at least 3+.
3. Unnecessary animations - I do not understand the whole "logical part" of L's animations. They claim apps now "open from somewhere". All I'm seeing is that they slide up now. IMO, it was more logical before, the app used to extend diagonally FROM its icon itself. On top of that, the animations are more laggy too.
4. Colours/Icons - what is with the colour choices of teal, etc. in the backgrounds and all over the UI? Starting to look like Touchwiz. And, the triangle/square/circle are totally random choices of shapes...the arrow, home, etc. were more logical.
5. Google Apps - Google apps are ever-more confusing to use now with a plethora of headings under the swipe menus (i.e. Gmail, Inbox, Photos, etc.). More importantly, the font is now super small...the nice big font in KitKat was way nicer and had easy-to-understand menus. Chrome is way worse - tabs have become "apps" and the only way to switch between them is to access recent apps. No more new tab button, no more swipe between tabs, and it crashes like no tomorrow. Calendar is so-so..it's harder to delete events now.
Overall KitKat was way smoother, cleaner UI, very accessible, but only lacked a couple key features. Looks like Project Butter is gone. An update is fast needed.
The Good:
Dialer and Messenger apps are far better than the stock on KitKat (UI/usability-wise). I really like lock-screen notifications.
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Please tell us your method of installing 5.0?
Sent from my Android 5.0 Nexus 5
1. Not laggy for me too. It works smooth. Did a clean install.
2. Battery life seems to be fine.. Did not see any improvements yet..but definitely not a deterioration..
3. This may be a personal preference. I actually like the animations.
4. Again personal preference. I love the color scheme of lollipop. Bright colors and white just works.
5. I agree there is a confusion with Email app redirecting to gmail and Inbox which manages Gmail..haha what a mess. But I can get used to it. Agnostic about the font size change. I hated the chrome tabs which showed up in multi tasking, but I just turned the feature off. Now I have all the swipe to switch tabs, swipe down to see tabs etc.
Even though I like Lollipop overall, I agree with several of your points:
Battery life is much worse than the first DP released months ago. That was amazing. Now, I still have a better battery life while actually using the phone, compared to KitKat, but the standby power consumption is worrying: I get a 5% drop by just leaving my phone in airplane mode for one night, which would barely take 1% on android 4.4...
The UI doesn't look laggy at all to me, but I must admit that some animations are pointless; others are pleasant though.
I like the UI of some of the new Gapps instead: gmail is really well made, especially in the tablet version, calendar is ok and the changes in the other ones (maps, keep, newsstand) didn't affect usability.
At first I didn't like chrome either, but after you get used to the new way to use it, it's not that bad. Anyway, you can disable the new tab view and revert to the classical UI whenever you want
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Lags what?? Come on. Mine is running butter smooth like never before. Much much fluid and consistent than Kitkat 4.4.4. And stop criticizing UI based on colors and all. These are subjective elements and opinions always vary greatly from person to person. Most of the people are liking this new UI. It does have a character and feel of liveliness unlike any previous android UI.
PS: And for once in a lifetime, do checkout settings under Chrome.
Odd
Got no lag issues
Battery is better for me
3 ~ 5 are taste choices not issues, i love the new ui and animation
Maybe its time to see if any oem offer better looks to your taste
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People if you read all his comments, all items are so subjective. Colors can look ugly to you but not to everyone. Battery would be because of how you use it. Gapps, are made not your sake and fonts that are small for your is enough for someone. Again, post issues that are show stopper.
@OP: Damn right they have. The OTA updates have stopped as well. I think the rest of us (99%) should be receiving Android 5.0.1 or something next month. Till then... no updates.
In chrome you can change the tab style under settings
I sideloaded the OTA and my phone was laggy and had a few force closes so I flashed the factory image and it's fine. Fast, smooth and works.
This is the price you pay for being an early adopter. It has happened before on nexus devices in the past. It's going to take them at least one or even two more updates to polish it.
Concerning chrome tabs, go to settings in chrome and turn off "merge tabs and apps".
You can turn off system animations from developer options in settings, or make them a bit faster by setting the value to .5x
As for unnecessary apps, you can disable the apps you don't want to see, or if you're rooted, you can delete them for good.
I want to say that after week od testing Lollipop (AOSP version with Hybrid Kernel) I went back to Omni ROM based on KitKat. Why? Because for me Lollipop is not as smooth as KitKat. I mean especially animations that are often laggy. Check out for example Play Store. Search any app with huge description, click "More informations" and then click "x" button to close whole description. For me this animation was very laggy. It's only example but I just felt worse smoothness and responsive in compare to KitKat. Even recent apps panel opens slower than KitKats one. It should not supposed to be so. I feel on KitKat 100% comfortable in daily use, not on Lollipop. I like new look and features but KitKat is faster.
And I will not change my mind, I'm not a noob and I can see the difference. I will wait month or two for custom ROMs and I will check out Lollipop again.
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This is the price you pay for being an early adopter. It has happened before on nexus devices in the past. It's going to take them at least one or even two more updates to polish it.
Concerning chrome tabs, go to settings in chrome and turn off "merge tabs and apps".
You can turn off system animations from developer options in settings, or make them a bit faster by setting the value to .5x
As for unnecessary apps, you can disable the apps you don't want to see, or if you're rooted, you can delete them for good.
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Do you know long did previous nexus devices had to wait for the "polish" it out updates in the past?
and313 said:
Do you know long did previous nexus devices had to wait for the "polish" it out updates in the past?
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I've been on the nexus line for 4 generations, but no one can answer your question with 100% certainty. It might take a x.x.1 or even x.x.2 update to iron things out.
I would say this transition is even bigger than gingerbread 2.3 -> 4.0 ICS was.
Choppy animations, FC's and inconsistencies in apps are normal at this stage. Apps will update in time. And i mean all apps in general, not just GApps.
1. No lag here.
2. Getting 4 hours + SoT, even on Developer Preview I was getting nearly 5.
3. Everything looks better in slow-mo.
4. Touchwiz is so much more random. Colors everywhere, heavy theming, where as Google has a constant flow. Maybe they just got tired if everything being black(might've been nice in the N6)
5. I always hated the Photos thing, but getting use to it quickly. I can see where Google is trying to go.
The font is beautiful to me. I love it.
Chrome, you can change it from recent apps back to normal in Chrome settings(I don't know if you read the instructions for that)
Calendar looks beautiful, but haven't used it yet.
Now. Remember that Lollipop was JUST released, therefore only the start of things to come. KitKat had many improvements done to it to become what it was.
Curiousn00b said:
1. No lag here.
2. Getting 4 hours + SoT, even on Developer Preview I was getting nearly 5.
3. Everything looks better in slow-mo.
4. Touchwiz is so much more random. Colors everywhere, heavy theming, where as Google has a constant flow. Maybe they just got tired if everything being black(might've been nice in the N6)
5. I always hated the Photos thing, but getting use to it quickly. I can see where Google is trying to go.
The font is beautiful to me. I love it.
Chrome, you can change it from recent apps back to normal in Chrome settings(I don't know if you read the instructions for that)
Calendar looks beautiful, but haven't used it yet.
Now. Remember that Lollipop was JUST released, therefore only the start of things to come. KitKat had many improvements done to it to become what it was.
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This exact same thing, minus #3.
Sent from my Nexus 5 on Lollipop 5.0
TheLastSidekick said:
This exact same thing, minus #3.
Sent from my Nexus 5 on Lollipop 5.0
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Ohno, I meant the animations. You see it more in slow-mo. I'm not saying put your phone animations like 2x's slower.
In an Android Police post, they made GIFS of the animations. To the eye it looks like a slide, but in thebGIFS it was beautiful.
No lag here.
Battery is improved in my case ( on avg-extreme usage).
But apps takes longer time to install. But I know its due to the ART , but performance wise its a clear winner.
No force closes even on extreme multitasking.
My device is rooted just to install ViperFx everything else is completely stock.
OnlySkills said:
5.0 was something I really looked forward to...once I got around to flashing it however, man it's taking a huge decrease in the performance department compared to 4.4.4. Here are some of the things I noticed:
1. Laggy UI overall - opening apps, loading, caching is all much slower now - not the animations, just the time lag before the animation/after animation.
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Yes, I noticed this since first preview came out. I thought it would be fixed in final factory image, but it didn't.
I installed Lollipop with full wipe option (-w) and still laggy everywhere(Drawer, multi-tasking, even opening setting).
Third party apps which have services running in background are only Facebook Messenger and Yahoo!Weather, tried removing them but no help.
I am so jealous of you guys who didn't encounter this issue :crying:
BTW, I also noticed taking some HDR+ shots makes system holding more memory (and never release them).

android 7

it is 2017 but we dont see 7 for our z3+! sony said nougat comes for XA series in 2017 but now i see sony did not release it for z4 and z5 can anybody tell me the time for coming nougat?
pou_gh2 said:
it is 2017 but we dont see 7 for our z3+! sony said nougat comes for XA series in 2017 but now i see sony did not release it for z4 and z5 can anybody tell me the time for coming nougat?
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Nougat will arrived this month.
kiosk123 said:
Nougat will arrived this month.
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i hope because sony said in nougat battery will be better and z4 battery is really bad
Don't hold your breath. It sucked in LP, they said it would get better. They lied.
davisml said:
Don't hold your breath. It sucked in LP, they said it would get better. They lied.
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i hope your not right,because i was holding my breath for better battery:crying::crying::crying::crying:
Poor battery is due to processor heating which is hardware issue. Software update would not make much difference.
Nougat is certified for Z3+ and Z5 http://www.xperiablog.net/2017/01/1...or-xperia-z5-and-z3-plus-series-32-3-a-0-372/
Wont matter until Xposed is released anyways.
Uksav said:
Wont matter until Xposed is released anyways.
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why xposed is important ?!i am noob
pou_gh2 said:
why xposed is important ?!i am noob
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MinMinGuard/Greenify/XNotifications/Youtube AdAway etc useful stuffs. With Android N-ify the difference between M and N is practically indistinguishable.
Uksav said:
MinMinGuard/Greenify/XNotifications/Youtube AdAway etc useful stuffs. With N-ify the difference between M and N is practically indistinguishable.
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ok thanks for explaining
Roll out now...Check it.
Got the update, installing now!
EDIT:
- NFC Firmware update pop-up as soon as saw lock screen
- Faceook app crashed
- Crash and reboot when not now clicked for "Personalised app recommendations by Sony" (maybe coz I got to that pop-up before unlocking via MyXperia protection
After reboot:
Sleek smooth UI
Split screen working like charm
so far no other issues, everything working
Can only find for dual...
deshx said:
Got the update, installing now!
EDIT:
- NFC Firmware update pop-up as soon as saw lock screen
- Faceook app crashed
- Crash and reboot when not now clicked for "Personalised app recommendations by Sony" (maybe coz I got to that pop-up before unlocking via MyXperia protection
After reboot:
Sleek smooth UI
Split screen working like charm
so far no other issues, everything working
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how is the battery and heating bro?
pou_gh2 said:
how is the battery and heating bro?
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Can't say about battery, but used camera for some time and everything was normal, didn't notice any significant heating. For me looks like it's gonna be better than MM.
Happy so far!
P.S. There is advanced setting in Stamina mode, 3 levels of savings available now, and on second option no animation is disabled, but slight stutter is seen while scrolling here and there. I turned it on and battery feels like can last 2 days easy on this setting on moderate use. They consume power by unnoticeable degradation in scrolling / animation etc. SWEET!
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Roll out now...Check it.
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I installed the update just now and rebooted. First look is good. Need to play around before I share my feedback
oorvashe said:
I installed the update just now and rebooted. First look is good. Need to play around before I share my feedback
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share it with us plz
deshx said:
Can't say about battery, but used camera for some time and everything was normal, didn't notice any significant heating. For me looks like it's gonna be better than MM.
Happy so far!
P.S. There is advanced setting in Stamina mode, 3 levels of savings available now, and on second option no animation is disabled, but slight stutter is seen while scrolling here and there. I turned it on and battery feels like can last 2 days easy on this setting on moderate use. They consume power by unnoticeable degradation in scrolling / animation etc. SWEET!
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ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF THIS ANDROID 7 ON Z3+.
Advantages..
1. Battery is lasting more than MM.
2. Stamina mode comes with 3 level stamina features.
3. Split Screen Apps are awesome.
4. Heating is less, I think they avhieved that by closing the background apps.
5.Camera app doesnt heatup the phone and lasts open till 5 min( I checked for 5 minutes only may be it ll show heating warning after that, I just dont know about it).
6. Now both the wallpaper and lockscreen can be handled easily with the same option WALLPAPER provided at SETTING app.
Disadvantages.
1. The Icons for the apps CONTACTS, MESSAGING, PHONE, CAMERA are so ugly.
2. One cannot go to the homepage by clicking recent navbar and then by clicking at the clear space of the recent apps menu.
3. While phone is locked the phone doesnt react to double tap unlock like it used to be in MM.
4. While the phone is locked the Icons of battery, network, clock etc are placed slightly lower than the Icons placed in the unlocked screen. LOCKING UNLOCKING CREATES AN UGLY LOOK OF MISPLACEMENT OF THESE ICONS.
5. The Battery icon in the status bar is too weird. ( Doesnt like it look).
6. The Data traffic indicator ( the small arrows up and down are way too small, the indicator which shows below 2g, 3g, H+ and LTE on the status bar)
7. They removed the option of selecting the FOCUS MODE in the camera app.
8. I compared the pictures taken by my phone when its in LP, MM AND N, I must say in LP this phone used to capture photos brilliantly, in MM the pics are somewhat lower than LP. But in N the pics quality are not upto marks. I think thats all because of this focus thing. Now the phone focus the way it wants to).
9. Remove/ Quit apps wisely, I am downloading some apps from UC BROWSER and then I exit the app and keep the downloading in the background but when I cleared the app from the recent apps list just to make my recent app section to look empty, it stopped my downloading too and the APP UC BROWSER was completely shut. (This option is in LP TOO BUT NOT IN MM) So close apps wisely.
11. They abandoned the small apps, Yes they are there but not easily accessible, now accessing small apps are quit pain in the ASS.
12. The apps in the Recent apps looks very big.
13. New quick tiles are good but one cannot direct shut data from there.
Thats all dear Fellas, I like the UI OF MM more than this N.
I THINK SONY JUST BAKED THIS N FOR US IN HURRY.
If I missed anything than please guys you can add that on your comments.

PIE update - Mate 10 Pro - LIST OF PROBLEMS / ISSUE'S

Like the Subject title reads, can we start a list of all the known errors discovered in the Android Pie update, for the Mate 10 series phones?
:highfive:This will be a great thread to see if it is worth upgrading to Pie, for us still stuck on Oreo.
I have found 2 issues so far
1. recents doesn't play well with 3rd party launchers(workaround is to disable emui launcher trough adb)
2. Navbar has delay for 1 sec after adapting to colour of opened apps when using 3rd party launcher
Had some few glitches like gps icon stayed turned on while nothing was using gps and gpu turbo floating icon stayed on after exiting game.
bla33 said:
I have found 2 issues so far
1. recents doesn't play well with 3rd party launchers(workaround is to disable emui launcher trough adb)
2. Navbar has delay for 1 sec after adapting to colour of opened apps when using 3rd party launcher
Had some few glitches like gps icon stayed turned on while nothing was using gps and gpu turbo floating icon stayed on after exiting game.
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Apparantly the new Gallery App is also not that great:
"The new photo gallery is a crap ,, whats the point of creating a new allbum called all photos ??
I miss the old one ,,,
And the worst thing is the new signal bars on the left with notifications !! What the heck is huawei thinking ?? We don't have a notch ,, this new emui is bs update"
As mentioned, Nova also buggy:
"So far, nova launcher is buggy, especially animations, and the previously working google cam port stopped working"
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"Nova working fine here with the exception of recents and gestures. "
And also uses more RAM than on EMUI 8 / Oreo:
"EMUI 9 is soooo ram hungry. Dropping below a gig here from light use and everything is refreshing. "
Well dont know about ram. Its same for me as before
atm while doing nothing its sitting at 3gb just like in oreo.
Only problem I have noticed is that's sometimes apps just went to recent by itself... usually when I'm typing - chatting. But it's overall fast to go back , sometimes it's annoying. For me ram management is ok, just like in oreo. Few graphic glitches here and there.
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Only problem I have noticed is that's sometimes apps just went to recent by itself... usually when I'm typing - chatting. But it's overall fast to go back , sometimes it's annoying. For me ram management is ok, just like in oreo. Few graphic glitches here and there.
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lol. Yeah. I was wondering if it was just me miss clicking so didnt want to mention that
dzmrdz said:
Only problem I have noticed is that's sometimes apps just went to recent by itself... usually when I'm typing - chatting. But it's overall fast to go back , sometimes it's annoying. For me ram management is ok, just like in oreo. Few graphic glitches here and there.
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Navbar is too sensitive. I usually hit Home now when I'm hitting Space.
And/or big thumbs.
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lol. Yeah. I was wondering if it was just me miss clicking so didnt want to mention that
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No it's not just you
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ante0 said:
Navbar is too sensitive. I usually hit Home now when I'm hitting Space.
And/or big thumbs.
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Maybe that's the reason, I hope that they will fix it soon :fingers-crossed:
I think in oreo there was like 1 second delay when pressing on screen and then trying to press navbar. it woudnt allow you to do that right away.
I'm getting the strong impression the Pie update, for the Mate 10 series, needs some more fine tuning. Maybe, with some updates it'll get better.
Let's get those bugs listed guys! :highfive:
Don't see a difference with the "super macro" mode in new camera software
MATE 10. The recent apps screen is ****, if you hit the one app that's halfway hidden on the side you just get dumped back to where you were without opening that app.
The camera app in my mate 10 eats up literally 600MB of RAM wtf? Also RAM usage in general is higher almost than EMUI 8 on the Mate 10, where I had 2.2GB free most of the timein 8.0, now the usual is 1.8GB, so that's 400MB more of RAM used for EMUI 9.
ante0 said:
Navbar is too sensitive. I usually hit Home now when I'm hitting Space.
And/or big thumbs.
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Yup, I also had this problem - it does bug me, typing a message and kept clicking home. I changed the nav bar to be hidden and use gestures now (swipe up for home, swipe left / right for back, swipe up and hold for task manager). This works for me!
Couple of other things I've noticed - takes a while to archive a gmail email in the notifications - there's a delay which wasn't there before.
Ran a AnTuTu benchmark - previously it was around 200,000 - its now reporting about 160,000 but apart from the gmail delay (above) the phone still feels snappy! I then saw the performance setting (under battery) and switched this on to re-benchmark - got around 210,000 this time.
I've switched performance mode back off for now.
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takes a while to archive a gmail email in the notifications - there's a delay which wasn't there before.
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It should have been obvious I guess! When I switch the performance mode on clearing these notifications is much quicker - this is the only thing I have really noticed in terms of speed with / without performance mode in the first couple of days.
Anyone having problem installing microG for YouTube vanced?
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Anyone having problem installing microG for YouTube vanced?
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Can you describe what is the problem?
So far it works good on my phone. I have installed MicroG first and then YouTube Vanced. There is additional Google entry in the accounts list for MicroG.
No more force LTE Only option, although you have tweak it before the update using System Editor. Hmmm...
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Can you describe what is the problem?
So far it works good on my phone. I have installed MicroG first and then YouTube Vanced. There is additional Google entry in the accounts list for MicroG.
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Question Third party launchers on S21 Ultra (Exynos)

Hello everybody.
I noticed there are some issues trying to use third party launchers such as NOVA or SmartLauncher.
Or, at least, that's what happens to me with the One UI 3.1.
I've been using NOVA since my first NEXUS and since then, moving to S7 up to the Note 10, even after choosing to be part of the Beta Testing Program, I've never had problems.
Now there are some laggy and crash issues. With both of the launchers aforementioned.
I don't know if this is due to the choice of using gestures instead on the buttons in the navigation bar (it doesn't look like, considering I tried to change) but it causes strange "movements" everytime I go back home: like the launcher restarts itself, if you know what I mean.
That never happened on my last device (the Note 10) with One UI 2.5: that's the reason why I'm seriously thinking it could be a problem of compatibility with the latest stock UI version.
Anybody with the same problem? Same issues? Or this "monster" behaves like it should?
Thank you
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IMPORTANT EDIT: I tried again and yes, it is gesture related. Deactivating the gesture navigation bar, everything went back to normal.
Yup, same issue. Flashes white after the next immediate touch action, blocking whatever that action was. Doesn't affect the stock launcher. I reported it to Samsung through their members app. Had to switch off of gesture navigation because of it. Dunno if the other gesture navigation is broken but I'm on buttons again.
I'm using good lock one hand operation + and FNG to compensate so left and right are still back. Swipe up is home and swipe up hold is recents.
Well the issue is with Google's gesture implementation. I am facing the issue with gestures too and contacted Nova launcher support and they have blamed google for it.
Its true, disabling gestures, everything works fine. I hope someone will find a solution to this.
I used Microsoft launcher and it seems fine.
mattlcfc said:
I used Microsoft launcher and it seems fine.
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Maybe it's only affecting launchers with the Google feed
I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?
blackhawk said:
I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?
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Hi.
I must say that you're right: latest UI version in very fast and stable. All the possibilities you can add with GOOD LOCK are definitely a serious improvement. There is a "missing" feature, though: those damn' icons.
I really don't understand why we must be forced to use those ugly ones on the Galaxy Store and why they decided not to allow us to change at least the shape (with the UI 3.1), as this is a stock functionality.
Let's see what will happen in the future.
Best
I've been using Apex Launcher Classic for years without issue and icon packs to customize (Desaturate pack is current favorite)
Works just fine with UI 3.1
I don't use the Gesture mode
blackhawk said:
I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?
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I agree to an extent, but the current version on One Ui Home has a number of issues as well;
Freezing whenever you long press on the home screen, so you can't add widgets
Task changer keeps resetting
Why oh why won't they give us vertical scrolling in the apps menu
I distinctly remember there being similar issues with my s10+ at launch, so hopefully be fixed in the future
mtm1401 said:
I agree to an extent, but the current version on One Ui Home has a number of issues as well;
Freezing whenever you long press on the home screen, so you can't add widgets
Task changer keeps resetting
Why oh why won't they give us vertical scrolling in the apps menu
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The last point is true however the first two aren't for me. No issues with widgets or Task changer.
The white icon label lettering irritates me though but it's not not all the trouble comes with 3rd party launchers.
maxito71 said:
Hi.
I must say that you're right: latest UI version in very fast and stable. All the possibilities you can add with GOOD LOCK are definitely a serious improvement. There is a "missing" feature, though: those damn' icons.
I really don't understand why we must be forced to use those ugly ones on the Galaxy Store and why they decided not to allow us to change at least the shape (with the UI 3.1), as this is a stock functionality.
Let's see what will happen in the future.
Best
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There are hundreds of icon packs for UI 1.0 on the Galaxy store.
Not so with the 3.0 version?
blackhawk said:
There are hundreds of icon packs for UI 1.0 on the Galaxy store.
Not so with the 3.0 version?
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Sure. Full of crappy icons and comic-sans-like fonts... Not considering that those on the Galaxy Store only change the stock icons and a few more.
The reign of inconsistency.
Believe me, I would be happy just having the possibility to choose the shape, as every other manufacturer on the planet allows.
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Im using nova 7 on my ultra exynos , how do a activate google feed ?
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Im using nova 7 on my ultra exynos , how do a activate google feed ?
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Download nova companion
maxito71 said:
Sure. Full of crappy icons and comic-sans-like fonts... Not considering that those on the Galaxy Store only change the stock icons and a few more.
The reign of inconsistency.
Believe me, I would be happy just having the possibility to choose the shape, as every other manufacturer on the planet allows.
Best
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Shape? Round, square... -far- less worse than Google or Apple designs
It's a pain sorting through them but there are good ones in there that most will like... for free.
If you're willing to take the performance and stability hit to have the "shape" well every rose has it's thorns.
2 back to back forced reloads taught me religion
Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.
Beefheart said:
Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.
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With navigation gestures or buttons?
Beefheart said:
Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.
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Me too! No problems until now!
I have been using nova launcher on my s21 ultra, since i got the phone ( with no gestures, only buttons ).
And i thought i was having a nice experience.
A few days ago i messed up my phone, debloated the wrong apps and had to factory reset. Since i was going with a fresh install i decided to use OneUI + some goodlock modules.
Boy.. i was wrong about the nova experience. Now i know how fluid and responsive the phone is supposed to be.
Anyway, apart from that, this is the official info from NOVA:
Google has made it very clear that they have no plans to completely fix gesture-related issues any time in the near or even distant future.
Please take note that Google admits to this being broken on their end of things and that a fix will be coming in a future update to Android (stated March 2019).
However, it's now well over a year later and there are still many issues with full system gestures and 3rd party launchers on both Android 10 and Android 11. These issues will remain for the foreseeable future as Google have now made it clear that they have no plans to completely fix their full system gestures.
Notable issues with gestures on third party launchers include:
• Close all/Clear app button not appearing(scroll all the way to verify it's not there)
• Not being able to tap icons for a short time after returning to the home screen
• Animations not being as fluid as expected
Please understand, there is absolutely NOTHING WE CAN DO TO FIX OR CHANGE THIS IN ANY WAY! Contact Google or your device OEM directly with these issues as we have absolutely no control over it whatsoever.
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Install Hexed from the Play Store. Personalize a theme and in preferences check Navigation Bar Height and set it to 0. In regular Android settings make sure it's set to use the NavBar buttons and not the gestures. Install any third party gestures app that you like. Set up your third party gestures app then restart the phone. Then you'll have fully working third party gestures and everything will work like it used to. This is the only way I have found that fully fixes the gesture issues.

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