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[Q] LTE Radio

Hello Everyone,
So I am unsure if the company I got my samsung galaxy note from gave me the european version of the HK version. They said the HK version is actualy N-7000 and the European version is the GT-N7000.
The reason I am asking is because when I go into the network settings of the phone it only has an option to set the phone for GSM/WCDMA or GSM only but mentions nothing of LTE. When I check a phone at NTT DoCoMo (I am in Japan currently) they have GSM/WCDMA/LTE and then GSM only.
I am worried that they accidently gave me the Hong Kong version instead of the european version with LTE. Even if the LTE freq's dont work with the DoCoMo version I would still like to know if I indeed have the one with LTE that I was expecting.
Does anyone know a way if I can check on the LTE radio using some # command.
Can someone with the european version check the network settings on the phone and see if it says GSM/WCDMA/LTE on their LTE phone of if it doesnt show but they do have LTE/4G working.
Thanks very much everyone!
-Xisdibik

Only galaxy note that has LTE is the Korean version which also has a different processor.... All the other versions are the same basically only the software is a bit different

The easiest way to know whether or not your Note is LTE is to check whether the SoC is 1.5ghz, made by Qualcomm, or 1.4ghz made by Samsung.
Samsung Exynos = HSPA+
Qualcomm Snapdragon = LTE

Where can I buy an unlocked Note 3 N9005 that would work with AT&T?

I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?

Earthbrain said:
I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?
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I don't think there is such a thing like a 16gb note 3. At least not yet.

xclub_101 said:
I don't think there is such a thing like a 16gb note 3. At least not yet.
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http://negrielectronics.com/phones/android-mobile-c-67.html
According to the above link...the 16 gb version does exist.

Does the n9005 model have AT&T LTE for sure?
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Earthbrain said:
I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?
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Before committed to pay big $ for the phone ... check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964

I'd buy what you're looking for in a heartbeat - if it existed. So far it doesn't. At least not ln any of the N3's for the UK, EU, or Latin America that have been announced. The Korean S-800 SGS4 supports AT&T's bands so their N3 probably will also. But the Korean phones have funky TV h/w and a funky MMS system that's different than Western versions. Rogers' (Canada) version will be compatible with AT&T LTE and may be closer to "virgin" than AT&T's version. The challenge is warranty service both because you'd have to send it to Canada for repair (assuming Rogers' services a phone for a non-subscriber) and because Knox prevents resetting the warranty status if a non-standard ROM's been flashed. Speaking of which, you'd probably only be able to flash Rogers' ROMs via Odin unless their N3 was a "pure" i9505 capable of using international ROMs.
And as someone above mentioned there's some question as to what "unlocked" means with the N3 as there are now regional limitations on top of carrier's locking phones to their networks.
If I find a true international N3 that works on AT&T's LTE that's not regionally SIM locked I'll let you know. Until then I'm sticking with AT&T's version and hoping they haven't molested it too badly.

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Lets knock off the keyboard hero stuff and get back on topic.

The N9005 doesn't work on AT&T LTE, it is missing bands 700/1700

designgears said:
The N9005 doesn't work on AT&T LTE, it is missing bands 700/1700
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Will the N9005 work on the Rogers network in Canada? I have no idea what these bands and frequencies mean, I just know that I need LTE to work.

choch69 said:
Will the N9005 work on the Rogers network in Canada? I have no idea what these bands and frequencies mean, I just know that I need LTE to work.
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You can't just say "N9005" and expect to get an answer. "N9005" refers to generic Snapdragon 800 LTE capable version of GN3, but each country and carrier in the world has different LTE bands enabled in that Snapdragon's SoC radio. Find your Rogers here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It operates on bands 4 and 7 - none of the Euro countries' carriers work on band 4, as you can see from the list. AT&T USA, T-Mobile USA and Rogers CA should be LTE cross compatible in most coverage areas, but not all.
If you buy N9005 version with unlocked bootloader - later, when someone makes Odin compatible with GN3 you will be able to flash Roger's LTE modem firmware to your N9005, no matter which country it is from and what LTE bands it currently has enabled

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Okay well I was looking to buy an unlocked N9005 from the UK. Since none of the euro countries work on band 4, what about band 7? Do both bands need to be working in order to get LTE? The problem with buying this in my country is that there wont be a 64gb option available.

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Okay well I was looking to buy an unlocked N9005 from the UK. Since none of the euro countries work on band 4, what about band 7? Do both bands need to be working in order to get LTE? The problem with buying this in my country is that there wont be a 64gb option available.
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Some carriers, which operate on dual band LTE use one band for upstream, and the other for downstream. If that is the case with Rogers you will have to have a phone with both bands enabled, to get LTE service from Rogers. However, even if that is not the case and both bands 4 and 7 are independent - Rogers has towers all over Canada, and in some regions those towers will operate on band 4, in other regions it will be band 7 and in some places towers will support both. By getting a phone that supports only band 7 you will greatly reduce your LTE coverage area. What percentage of Rogers' network uses what band - those details are publicly available, so you can either Google it or just call Rogers and ask. I would recommend against getting a phone, that supports only band 7, unless you plan on flashing Roger's modem to it later.

This not quite correct. A band, by definition includes both the up and downstream frequencies. Only one band is used at a time. Rogers happens to use band 4 and band 7. One is not reliant on the other. If you are in an area with band 7 coverage (most of Rogers LTE coverage has both) you will be able to use a N9005.
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Some carriers, which operate on dual band LTE use one band for upstream, and the other for downstream. If that is the case with Rogers you will have to have a phone with both bands enabled, to get LTE service from Rogers. However, even if that is not the case and both bands 4 and 7 are independent - Rogers has towers all over Canada, and in some regions those towers will operate on band 4, in other regions it will be band 7 and in some places towers will support both. By getting a phone that supports only band 7 you will greatly reduce your LTE coverage area. What percentage of Rogers' network uses what band - those details are publicly available, so you can either Google it or just call Rogers and ask. I would recommend against getting a phone, that supports only band 7, unless you plan on flashing Roger's modem to it later.
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This not quite correct. A band, by definition includes both the up and downstream frequencies. Only one band is used at a time. Rogers happens to use band 4 and band 7. One is not reliant on the other. If you are in an area with band 7 coverage (most of Rogers LTE coverage has both) you will be able to use a N9005.
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you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.

Apo11on said:
you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.
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The OP needs to take into consideration that If he buys from an online retailer an international unit, this unit will need to be activated in its intended region before he can use it in the states.

Apo11on said:
you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.
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I've never heard of that. Seems like a problematic setup since the RF properties of bands can vary so much. Seems like you would get in a situation where you have up but not downstream or vice versa.
Yes, you would need a N9005 from Asia, not Europe as those are region locked.

omegacell said:
Yes, you would need a N9005 from Asia, not Europe as those are region locked.
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Do you have a link for a source, where you got that information from? Or better yet - list of countries/markets, where GN3 will not be region locked?

Apo11on said:
Do you have a link for a source, where you got that information from? Or better yet - list of countries/markets, where GN3 will not be region locked?
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Email me or hit me me up through my site. We're a retailer/wholesaler, not sure if I'm allowed to post about that since it would be "advertising".

omegacell said:
Email me or hit me me up through my site. We're a retailer/wholesaler, not sure if I'm allowed to post about that since it would be "advertising".
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that is a valuable information, which a lot of people, watching this thread could use, not just me. I don't think it will be considered as advertising. People in this thread are looking to buy international GN3, which will work on AT&T in US. If the phone is region locked then it won't work. Therefore, listing the countries, where there is no region lock would be very much relevant to this topic.

Apo11on said:
that is a valuable information, which a lot of people, watching this thread could use, not just me. I don't think it will be considered as advertising. People in this thread are looking to buy international GN3, which will work on AT&T in US. If the phone is region locked then it won't work. Therefore, listing the countries, where there is no region lock would be very much relevant to this topic.[/QUOTEN
N9005 from HK or Singapore (perhaps others too) will work.
The South American N9000 are region locked to South American, North American, carribean etc. SIM cards (western hemisphere).
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Will the International LTE S2 work on Verizon network?

I noticed on the specifications list that the international LTE version has some of the same LTE bands as the Verizon LTE version. Would the international LTE version of the S2 be at all usable on Verizon's network?

Which variant? I don't remember seeing any international variants with LTE B13 support. In any case, there is no CDMA in the international variants and I strongly doubt you could use them on Verizon.

Is B13 the one Verizon uses in the U.S.? I was just looking at the one on amazon listed as "international LTE". I didn't realize there were multiple versions of that. I also got the impression from reading around here that Verizon's LTE was more or less the same as everyone else's because CDMA just isn't capable of the modern band width requirements. That was a long time ago though and I may have misunderstood.

0reo said:
Is B13 the one Verizon uses in the U.S.? I was just looking at the one on amazon listed as "international LTE". I didn't realize there were multiple versions of that. I also got the impression from reading around here that Verizon's LTE was more or less the same as everyone else's because CDMA just isn't capable of the modern band width requirements. That was a long time ago though and I may have misunderstood.
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Yes, B13 is Verizon's main LTE band in the US.

You say main as if there are others. Does Verizon use other bands too? At all?

In certain areas Verizon also supplements coverage with bands 2 and/or 4. Eventually they are also expected to deploy on band 5.

Thank-you for repeatedly taking the time to answer my questions. I appreciate it.
I live around the Baltimore area so I imagine they might have need to supplement with the additional bands around here. The international Tab S2 being sold on Amazon does support bands 2, 4, and 5. No 13 though. So assuming Verizon has deployed band(s) 2, 4, or 5 in the area the question remains: Would the international Tab S2 receive LTE service? Someone must have tried it by now.
Have any other "international" samsung devices been able to receive Verizon service in the US?

0reo said:
Thank-you for repeatedly taking the time to answer my questions. I appreciate it.
I live around the Baltimore area so I imagine they might have need to supplement with the additional bands around here. The international Tab S2 being sold on Amazon does support bands 2, 4, and 5. No 13 though. So assuming Verizon has deployed band(s) 2, 4, or 5 in the area the question remains: Would the international Tab S2 receive LTE service? Someone must have tried it by now.
Have any other "international" samsung devices been able to receive Verizon service in the US?
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What you are trying to do is just a bad idea unfortunately. Even if you could activate it (which I doubt you could in the first place), the supplemental bands are high frequency bands and you may well run into situations where you won't have any coverage at all because you couldn't pick up band 13 (which is a low frequency band that penetrates into buildings much better than bands 2 or 4).
Why not just buy the Verizon model?

That is very helpful and insightful info. Thank-you.
For my purposes the tablet will be used mostly for entertainment purposes. I have a galaxy S4 (mdk bootloader) phone for serious communication needs. I was just thinking that there may be a performance advantage if I could swap the sim card from my S4 into the tablet and get internet (where available on bands 2, 4, 5) directly from LTE rather then from the wifi hotspot on the S4. I figured it may not work all the time but if it did some of the time it would justify buying the device with capability, all else being equal.
I would absolutely buy the verizon model if it wasn't boot-loader locked. It sounds like noone has been able to hack a ssmsung/verizon device for the last few generations so I'm not holding my breath.
(The info you've been giving will also be handy when it comes time to replace my & wife's S4 phones which will probably be in the next year.)

Oh, ok, I see, your issue is with the bootloader. Yeah, that's a problem.
I am also using an S4 on a CDMA carrier (Sprint). Planning on getting a Nexus 5X soon. It's nice in that unlike Samsung and their plethora of variants of the same device for each country, there is just one Nexus model for all carriers in the US, and it's also unlocked right out of the box.

so Snapdragon 845 is an LTE monster, but is Exynos?

after watching Pocket Now's video on the Note 9's LTE speed, it got me excited. Excited til I realized their unit is a snapdragon 845 and the Exynos will have its own benchmarks.
Anyone have any idea how the Exynos version compares?

didn't watch video, but what are the actual results?
i have unlocked usa version with ATT LTE, i'm sure mine is the Exynos version. My results:
download = 51.3 mbps
upload = 6.2 mbps
are my test results in line with the results from the video?

Mine is an exynos version on 3uk and I recorded 73.2 down and 42.2 up. Upload speed is 4 times my home broadband speed

nycalex said:
i have unlocked usa version with ATT LTE, i'm sure mine is the Exynos version.
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It's not.

My Exynos Note9 result

entropism said:
It's not.
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you are right, even unlocked ones are snapdragon
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My Exynos Note9 result
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what the heck......
i'm in NY metro and my LTE speeds suck

Updated test

For a comparison, here's my Note8 Exynos model result.
Tested in the same location last week before my Note9 arrived.
The test's were done at almost the same time last week and today

nycalex said:
didn't watch video, but what are the actual results?
i have unlocked usa version with ATT LTE, i'm sure mine is the Exynos version. My results:
download = 51.3 mbps
upload = 6.2 mbps
are my test results in line with the results from the video?
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the tldw is 160mbps speed test in congested downtown NYC, on t-mobile.

soraxd said:
the tldw is 160mbps speed test in congested downtown NYC, on t-mobile.
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i'm about 5 miles from there and getting 51mbps on an unlocked version with ATT as the carrier.
this is seriously pissing me off.
i'm going to exchange my unlocked one for an ATT branded one.
screw unlocked, carrier branded it is going forward

Unlocked US version on AT&T, pretty poor signal strength here at work, but still phenomenal speeds considering.

nycalex said:
you are right, even unlocked ones are snapdragon
what the heck......
i'm in NY metro and my LTE speeds suck
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Because AT&T's main bands are 71 and another one which i forgot which aren't supported on the US unlocked variant or any other. They're not gunna treat unlocked customers like they do their own.When you have a carrier, it is important to know these types of things when choosing your phone. Just because it supports GSM and CDMA means almost nothing to you (unless you plan on switching carriers a few times in the lifesoan of the phone) as AT&T only uses GSM. The unlocked supports more bands but no model supports all of them. You also have to take into account carrier features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.

LTE/modem speeds are hard to test as the actual speed vary mostly from the network towers, how many connected users yours have, how much they download, the signal strength and so on.
For a real tests a lab is needed and from there are the stated measurements from the manufacturers. The exynos model is good.

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Because AT&T's main bands are 71 and another one which i forgot which aren't supported on the US unlocked variant or any other. They're not gunna treat unlocked customers like they do their own.When you have a carrier, it is important to know these types of things when choosing your phone. Just because it supports GSM and CDMA means almost nothing to you (unless you plan on switching carriers a few times in the lifesoan of the phone) as AT&T only uses GSM. The unlocked supports more bands but no model supports all of them. You also have to take into account carrier features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
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The US Unlocked variant DOES support band 71. It supports all the bands any of the US Carriers use.
You are correct about VoLTE and WiFi calling using the unlocked phone on ATT. However, both those features work perfectly on T-Mobile.
If you have ATT and want VoLTE or WiFi calling, or for some reason you don't think you're getting full band support (you are), then just flash the ATT firmware. They are all the SAME EXACT device. No difference in hardware at all. Been this way since the S8/+.
It's important to know these types of things when choosing your phone.

Exynos ee Coventry

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The US Unlocked variant DOES support band 71. It supports all the bands any of the US Carriers use.
You are correct about VoLTE and WiFi calling using the unlocked phone on ATT. However, both those features work perfectly on T-Mobile.
If you have ATT and want VoLTE or WiFi calling, or for some reason you don't think you're getting full band support (you are), then just flash the ATT firmware. They are all the SAME EXACT device. No difference in hardware at all. Been this way since the S8/+.
It's important to know these types of things when choosing your phone.
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Flashing ATT firmware in odin wont change csc since s7

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Flashing ATT firmware in odin wont change csc since s7
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CSC changes automatically depending on what SIM you have installed.

Samsung Galaxy Note 9 SM-9600

I want to buy Note 9 128GB Dual SIM Snapdragon version. This version is not available here in Bangladesh. Only Note9 SM-960F/DS is available. Which is Dual sim 128GB/256GB with Exynos CPU.
Any suggestion from where I can purchase this Snapdragon Dual SIM version of Note9? Also need to know how I can be confirmed whether it will work in my counties network (GSM, 3G/4G LTE/VoLTE).

sameee781 said:
I want to buy Note 9 128GB Dual SIM Snapdragon version. This version is not available here in Bangladesh. Only Note9 SM-960F/DS is available. Which is Dual sim 128GB/256GB with Exynos CPU.
Any suggestion from where I can purchase this Snapdragon Dual SIM version of Note9? Also need to know how I can be confirmed whether it will work in my counties network (GSM, 3G/4G LTE/VoLTE).
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1) As for compatibility,it would help to know which network(s) you plan on using.
2) As for where to buy,the world's your oyster. As to single or dual SIM,most of the listings I've seen for the SM-N9600 (Snapdragon) are Dual-SIM,you'd have to verify that w/the seller.
3) Also,which RAM/Storage configuration are you interested in?

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1) As for compatibility,it would help to know which network(s) you plan on using.
2) As for where to buy,the world's your oyster. As to single or dual SIM,most of the listings I've seen for the SM-N9600 (Snapdragon) are Dual-SIM,you'd have to verify that w/the seller.
3) Also,which RAM/Storage configuration are you interested in?
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1. Grameenphone: EDGE, GSM, GPRS, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA, HSPA+, FDD-LTE
2. Didn't find in walmart. I wanted to buy it through one staying now at USA.
3. 6GB RAM, 128GB Storage

sameee781 said:
1. Grameenphone: EDGE, GSM, GPRS, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA, HSPA, HSPA+, FDD-LTE
2. Didn't find in walmart. I wanted to buy it through one staying now at USA.
3. 6GB RAM, 128GB Storage
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Compatibility definitely isn't a problem.
IDK the particulars regarding bringing your own (compatible) device to Grameenphone.
Barring no policies against it,IDK if the phones they sell have carrier-specific items that'll only work on their phones (software/firmware related restrictions).Wi-Fi Calling/VCo-LTE/VisualVoicemail come to mind.......
With all of that said,here's a seller on e-Bay that I would recommend (hoping you'll be in the US long enough to take delivery):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Samsun...Ee_4PJXup8lvPKfZtoNA:rk:3:pf:1&frcectupt=true
(30 day warranty/return policy with this seller,you can check the other sellers for better warranty/warranty options).
Finding US retailers that sell this version of the Note 9 are virtually non-existent ATM,but,that will likely change in another couple of months (B&H Photo/Video comes to mind).
Amazon (USA) has 'em,but,they come without any warranty whatsoever.