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Sony IMX 398

Hi,
So what do you think or know about this new sensor?
I'm currently using my Nexus 5X to take photos and I'm hoping the Sony IMX 398 i the OP 3T will at least be just as good or maybe better (although I guess it'll prob be worse then the latest google pixel camera)

The IMX 398 has 1.7 aperture. How could be worse than the Google pixel's camera? If it will has OIS ,I think it will be the best phone camera ever.

G4B33 said:
The IMX 398 has 1.7 aperture. How could be worse than the Google pixel's camera? If it will has OIS ,I think it will be the best phone camera ever.
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Just saw a screen of specs that has been taken down that stated it has both EIS and OIS... we'll have to wait and see.

G4B33 said:
The IMX 398 has 1.7 aperture. How could be worse than the Google pixel's camera? If it will has OIS ,I think it will be the best phone camera ever.
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nope the rear cam remains the same IMX 298
front camera bumped to 16MP Samsung 3P8SP sensor

Ben Ling said:
nope the rear cam remains the same IMX 298
front camera bumped to 16MP Samsung 3P8SP sensor
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Yes, big bummer for me. Really had great hopes for a new sensor. No oneplus 3T for me

same for me, i love taking pictures but the Pixel is too expensive

I have a doubt
There is still time to change my OP3 with OP3T, since they are not past due 15 days, what do you recommend?
sorry for my English

camera india

Camera issue
I have purchased OnePlus 5 on the release day, in the starting , both the rear cameras were working fine.
but after couple of months, there was a problem with 20mp lens, I'm unable to use 2x zoom, even in very bright day light situation.
I've contacted OnePlus, they're trying to explain me that dual camera is only for portrait mode not for 2x, they are directly saying 2x zoom can be done by 16mp camera. then what's the use of 20mp cam.
OnePlus customer service team is not at all listening my words and even the words which has said at the time of launch by CEO.
fed up with the OnePlus support In India.

For those with XZ2, is the camera capable of doing portrait shots?

With the background blur?
I know it only has 1 camera at the back but the Pixel 2 XL manages to do it quite perfectly with 1 camera.

Yes with bokeh setting in camera

I'd say it's far from perfect. It kind of works, sometimes, but I've previously had a Xiaomi Mi 6 which did a better job. But even the best dual camera system is... meh. Get a real camera with a decent lens.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Xiaomi Redmi Note 6 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I'm really happy with the photo quality on this phone, it's pretty good for the price (and in case anyone is wondering, yes, it's better than the Note 5 Pro). I'm satisfied with it but I still can't wait for someone to bring the Pixel Camera to this device, I'm sure it could improve the picture quality even more.

Photo Quality after latest update to 10.0.5 is reduced a lot...
Is there any solution on this?

megh1982 said:
Photo Quality after latest update to 10.0.5 is reduced a lot...
Is there any solution on this?
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Are you sure about this? To which version are you comparing this to?

Hanslau said:
Are you sure about this? To which version are you comparing this to?
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I don't know about teh software upgrade, but if you look at the review of the Note 6 Pro in GSM Arena, go to 5.Camera and open the "photo compare tool", and select the Redmi Note 5 AI for comparison, the picture quality is much better than the Note 6.
The camera is supposed to be the same, but Note 6 seems to have excessive noise reduction and much less detail.
Anybody knows why?

santope said:
I don't know about teh software upgrade, but if you look at the review of the Note 6 Pro in GSM Arena, go to 5.Camera and open the "photo compare tool", and select the Redmi Note 5 AI for comparison, the picture quality is much better than the Note 6.
The camera is supposed to be the same, but Note 6 seems to have excessive noise reduction and much less detail.
Anybody knows why?
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I'm running latest MIUI software versions and the daylight quality shots with stock camera is excellent.
The night shot quality could be improved when compared with GCam.
Regards,

Photo quality is good, but I do not see as many details as with my previous J7 2015 (when I zoom in). But the overall image quality is much better (real colors, good lighting) .

I am disappointed with the camera cause the Mi A2 has better camera.

Check this profile on instagram @redminote6problue

Hi
I have enabled cam2api with root (magisk) on a custom ROM (lineageos 17) and I cannot find a camera app that uses the full capacity of the phone cameras. I only get one 12MP on the rear camera and one 5MP on the front camera. I used gcam, open cam, lineageos snap...
Normally (on stock MIUI) it's a dual 12MP and 5MP cameras on the front and dual 20MP and 2MP cameras on the rear.
Does anyone know how to get the full capacity of the phone's cameras without going back to MIUI global ?

SeanyMcP said:
Hi
I have enabled cam2api with root (magisk) on a custom ROM (lineageos 17) and I cannot find a camera app that uses the full capacity of the phone cameras. I only get one 12MP on the rear camera and one 5MP on the front camera. I used gcam, open cam, lineageos snap...
Normally (on stock MIUI) it's a dual 12MP and 5MP cameras on the front and dual 20MP and 2MP cameras on the rear.
Does anyone know how to get the full capacity of the phone's cameras without going back to MIUI global ?
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I think you said it otherwise: RN6Pro has on front a 20MP main and 2MP lens to depth and on rear, 12MP and 5MP lens.
I am using the Official 20200602 Lineage OS build and i can take photos with:
- The snap camera on rear can be shot with 20MP resolution and the front with 5MP.
- The Miui flashalble zip camera for android 10 can reach full resolution, but lack of front camera on manual mode.

ushiyama said:
I think you said it otherwise: RN6Pro has on front a 20MP main and 2MP lens to depth and on rear, 12MP and 5MP lens.
I am using the Official 20200602 Lineage OS build and i can take photos with:
- The snap camera on rear can be shot with 20MP resolution and the front with 5MP.
- The Miui flashalble zip camera for android 10 can reach full resolution, but lack of front camera on manual mode.
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Hi, I also have the official lineageos and tried to flash the canera after mounting system and vendor in TWRP but the app doesn't work. I don't know where I went wrong
*EDIT*
Actually it's working, I had to authorise access to camera in the properties

I'm still using the stock camera on stock ROM. Couldn't enable api2 as any attempts to unlock my bootloader have failed. I like the photo quality better than my wife's new 9 Pro Max. MP difference aside, there is less visible noise in 6 pro vis-a-vis 9 Pro Max. Same applies to selfie camera as well.
However, I do like the macro camera of 9 Pro max, and wish there was night mode on 6 Pro as well. Mi could just enable camera 2 API out of the box, but chooses not to for some reason.

Redmi note 6 pro image quality
The image quality is quite good. In this low budget price range Note 6 pro giving such good quality images. But after the latest update, the image quality is reduced. Idk it only happens to me or every Redmi Note 6 pro user will face this issue!!

General My father bought the S21 Ultra and i was impressed camera wise...

This is just my statement and opinion.
I'm going to try and be honest here. Me as a Mi 11 Ultra owner I was impressed and a bit jealous despite the 300-400€ difference when using my father's S21 Ultra(exynos) in 2 aspects.
One is the screen brightness with direct sunlight. i thought the all 1700nits would "shine true" but i got duped. The visibility of the S21 Ultra is much better, both using max brightness sunlight. I am not sure if Xiaomi activated the already enabled direct sunlight option, i had read somewhere that the brightness reaches better results on S21U but that's another topic.
Two is the camera...
I got mind blown when i bought the mi 11 Ultra and i got mind blown again about the quality of the zoom on S21U, without even going past 10x.
The S21U with the 3x and 10x camera app smooth change between lenses and the sharpness of the zoom photos during live preview. A more Mature camera app indeed and the stabilization of the zoom camera by focusing on the object and not having to have a firm hand... wow!
I couldn't test it during nightshots cause i was with him for a brief moment, but that is what i could have "won" in a way, but Mi11U enhances the nightshots photos after the photo is taken, not that much during live preview.
Not to discourage other Xiaomi Fans out there but Xiaomi has indeed been lacking the transparency and focus of the Software.
Samsung July patch notes note said that was made some improvements to the camera performance
Another thing is that Xiaomi MIUI patches notes are the same across all the devices and not specific of the model. Like generic and uninteresting, you don't even know if they are making adjustments to the camera app on a specific model.
But i'm going to stop with all the blathering for now.

What is your goal with this post? What do you want to tell us? The camera of the Mi11 Ultra is far above the camera of the S21, regarding to DXOMark.
Rankings - DXOMARK
www.dxomark.com
In the same test you see the display of the S21u scoring higher then the Mi11 Ultra. So yes, you are right.
Everyone has his/hers own reasons to buy a specific phone. I dont like Samsung for its UI and i dont like the esthetics of the S21u. Maybe you do, so buy a S21u?

KaiseRRUby said:
What is your goal with this post? What do you want to tell us? The camera of the Mi11 Ultra is far above the camera of the S21, regarding to DXOMark.
Rankings - DXOMARK
www.dxomark.com
In the same test you see the display of the S21u scoring higher then the Mi11 Ultra. So yes, you are right.
Everyone has his/hers own reasons to buy a specific phone. I dont like Samsung for its UI and i dont like the esthetics of the S21u. Maybe you do, so buy a S21u?
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You have to read the carefully the post i made mate.
I said on top, its my opinion that S21U is better at zoom, even if DXOmark biases or unbiases only grants 98 points against 131.
Benchmarks are benchmarks and DXOmark has a controversy of favoring Huawei and Xiaomi phones (you can read it in other places) and also Software improvements are not taken in consideration. The software released of S21Ultra had alot of issues but they fixed according to what i know and this topic was made now cause my father only bought it now.
Beside i don't look at one site and be done with it. You see alot of Youtubers talk about zoom pictures being better on S21Ultra
Also do you wonder why DXOmark never shares the specific version number of the software they test even if you ask them? talk about transparency...
And again with the Dxomark scores on Screen. Xiaomi talks about 1700nits against the Samsung 1500nits and yet i saw major difference with my eyes.
I bought the Mi11ultra because i love MIUI and this phone has alot of other functionally that other don't all in one.
I won't buy S21U. i already have purchase my device, this is a post to take in consideration, thats all.
I'm not in blind love of my MI11ultra.

xwonic said:
You have to read the carefully the post i made mate.
I said on top, its my opinion that S21U is better at zoom, even if DXOmark biases or unbiases only grants 98 points against 131.
Benchmarks are benchmarks and DXOmark has a controversy of favoring Huawei and Xiaomi phones (you can read it in other places) and also Software improvements are not taken in consideration. The software released of S21Ultra had alot of issues but they fixed according to what i know and this topic was made now cause my father only bought it now.
Beside i don't look at one site and be done with it. You see alot of Youtubers talk about zoom pictures being better on S21Ultra
Also do you wonder why DXOmark never shares the specific version number of the software they test even if you ask them? talk about transparency...
And again with the Dxomark scores on Screen. Xiaomi talks about 1700nits against the Samsung 1500nits and yet i saw major difference with my eyes.
I bought the Mi11ultra because i love MIUI and this phone has alot of other functionally that other don't all in one.
I won't buy S21U. i already have purchase my device, this is a post to take in consideration, thats all.
I'm not in blind love of my MI11ultra.
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I'm neither in blind love of my Mi 11 ultra. But your main point is: Samsung did a better job on their software updates than Xiaomi?
Let's hope Xiaomi will release better software soon or custom roms to fix it. And well, when i have a S21U in my own hands i will compare them.
Thanks for sharing your experience.

KaiseRRUby said:
What is your goal with this post? What do you want to tell us? The camera of the Mi11 Ultra is far above the camera of the S21, regarding to DXOMark.
Rankings - DXOMARK
www.dxomark.com
In the same test you see the display of the S21u scoring higher then the Mi11 Ultra. So yes, you are right.
Everyone has his/hers own reasons to buy a specific phone. I dont like Samsung for its UI and i dont like the esthetics of the S21u. Maybe you do, so buy a S21u?
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Dxo score is a bought and paid for scam
How would they have had results before the phone was even on sale ?
Some versions still don't have the dxo software update 4 months later but I DO have it and it isn't the best camera in the world lol....

xwonic said:
my father's S21 Ultra(exynos)
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I would never buy a Samsung phone with that crap Exynos SOC that they don't even sell in their own country...
Maybe in the future if Exynos will become better than Snapdragon...

I don't know guys what kind of shots you need to do with a camera, Mi 11 Ultra camera to me seems incredible and that's enough, if I want better shot I buy a proper camera in my opinion

In my little and personal opinion, Xiaomi fits outstanding hardware in its phones but it clearly loses on software and optimization which I think is a more difficult task than gathering hardware. If Samsung would ship its phone with the kind of sensors Mi 11 ultra has, they might outperform Mi 11 ultra easily. Even Xiaomi's flagships such as Mi 11 ultra have outdated security updates and buggy user interface such as its dark mode; I'm living with a phone whose dark mode bugs make me change homescreen icon layout twice daily in order to get my widgets and google feed follow the device's theme. Mind it, I payed $1000 for this "luxury" and such is the experience of it. I envy S21 ultra users using their phones with the most recent Android security patch installed.
Im sorry if I hurt someone here by saying this.

I debated a lot between the two phone. Went with Xiaomi because :
1. I can use gcam (the camera will improve with time). This is not available with the Exynos S21, or very limited.
2. Better wide angle lens.
What i really miss, and in my opinion it's the biggest flaw with the Mi 11 Ultra camera: Macro. Basically doesn't exist. What is even worse is the fact that cropping from the main lens at 50MP yields much better macro results that using the dedicated macro mode. I mean...common Xiaomi.
So I bought an external 100mm macro lens, but it doesn't fit the M11U because the camera bump is too thick :/

xNAPx said:
I don't know guys what kind of shots you need to do with a camera, Mi 11 Ultra camera to me seems incredible and that's enough, if I want better shot I buy a proper camera in my opinion
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I tested it alongside an iphone 12 pro last night and the iPhone was just as good if not better taking pictures of the same view
i expected it would blow the iPhone away by miles but that just wasn't the case

Well but that Iphone in 2021 still performs at 60hz lol while the Samsung costs 1200£ without charger and giving you Exynos. So any phone has its flows

galr said:
I debated a lot between the two phone. Went with Xiaomi because :
1. I can use gcam (the camera will improve with time). This is not available with the Exynos S21, or very limited.
2. Better wide angle lens.
What i really miss, and in my opinion it's the biggest flaw with the Mi 11 Ultra camera: Macro. Basically doesn't exist. What is even worse is the fact that cropping from the main lens at 50MP yields much better macro results that using the dedicated macro mode. I mean...common Xiaomi.
So I bought an external 100mm macro lens, but it doesn't fit the M11U because the camera bump is too thick :/
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There is also Samsung with snapdragon and with working GCam.

Is the Snapdragon version just a single sim? I looked myself but I'm sure only the Exynos had dual SIM but this was before it launched but still interested to know.

galr said:
I debated a lot between the two phone. Went with Xiaomi because :
1. I can use gcam (the camera will improve with time). This is not available with the Exynos S21, or very limited.
2. Better wide angle lens.
What i really miss, and in my opinion it's the biggest flaw with the Mi 11 Ultra camera: Macro. Basically doesn't exist. What is even worse is the fact that cropping from the main lens at 50MP yields much better macro results that using the dedicated macro mode. I mean...common Xiaomi.
So I bought an external 100mm macro lens, but it doesn't fit the M11U because the camera bump is too thick :/
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Now that you meantion I also tried experimenting with "macro" cause the option is there and its on the Ultrawide and it can't seem to focus, i get better results with telescope lens while keeping some distance from target. but still lacks.
Xiaomi said that they didn't place a macro camera cause they found a way to use 2 lens into 1, the Ultrawide.
I wonder if gcam has a option to improve focus on the ultrawide and if it's only xiaomi camera software that it's not working properly.

xwonic said:
Now that you meantion I also tried experimenting with "macro" cause the option is there and its on the Ultrawide and it can't seem to focus, i get better results with telescope lens while keeping some distance from target. but still lacks.
Xiaomi said that they didn't place a macro camera cause they found a way to use 2 lens into 1, the Ultrawide.
I wonder if gcam has a option to improve focus on the ultrawide and if it's only xiaomi camera software that it's not working properly.
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You're limited by the focal range of the lense.
A ultra wide macro would likely need an attachment ie extension tube/lense for it to work. Because you don't have access to the primary lense not sure how well that work.

blackhawk said:
You're limited by the focal range of the lense.
A ultra wide macro would likely need an attachment ie extension tube/lense for it to work. Because you don't have access to the primary lense not sure how well that work.
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True, but the silly thing is that you can just take a photo with the main lens and 50MP mode and crop. You still get high res photo and the macro is FAR better than what you get with the dedicated macro mode.
They should just change the dedicated macro mode to be a crop of 50MP main camera.

galr said:
True, but the silly thing is that you can just take a photo with the main lens and 50MP mode and crop. You still get high res photo and the macro is FAR better than what you get with the dedicated macro mode.
They should just change the dedicated macro mode to be a crop of 50MP main camera.
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I tried it now and your right, if i zoom in on main camera without switching to the telephoto i get much better results with macro.
Btw have you guys notice that if you do close up photos the mi cam only switches to the telephoto at exactly 9.5X? i used my finger on top of the telephoto lens to check this out

xwonic said:
I tried it now and your right, if i zoom in on main camera without switching to the telephoto i get much better results with macro.
Btw have you guys notice that if you do close up photos the mi cam only switches to the telephoto at exactly 9.5X? i used my finger on top of the telephoto lens to check this out
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It will do that if the distance is closer than the minimum focus distance of the 5x lens, or when there is not a lot of light. You can always change to Pro mode (with auto settings); to force the 5x lens .

Sathelp said:
Is the Snapdragon version just a single sim? I looked myself but I'm sure only the Exynos had dual SIM but this was before it launched but still interested to know.
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You can get a dual sim snapdragon s21u in some markets
Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra Dual Sim 5G G9980
Phones and Smartphones, DESIGN. Revolutionary by design. Introducing a bold new camera design in a category of its own. It's ultra-sized
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It also supports e-sim so you may be able to use multiple sim cards even on the single sim variant if you're carrier has e-sim available

xNAPx said:
Well but that Iphone in 2021 still performs at 60hz lol while the Samsung costs 1200£ without charger and giving you Exynos. So any phone has its flows
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I don't like apple products or iPhones in general but the camera and screen quality didn't look noticeably worse when tested side by side