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Anyone can explain pros and cons of Xiaomi Mi 3 ?

It would be great to know about Mi 3 . I have heard about this company last year in December. This company producing affordable smartphones but some peoples has created blunders such as phone stuck, battery, heating and touch not working properly. so anyone there who has been using this phone or used before Kindly, explain about pros and cons in detail ?

I have been using this phone for the last 1 year, and so far it has been exceptional for its price, it has all the specs of a 2013-2014 flagship. There are MANY reviews of Mi 3 on YouTube so I am not gonna elaborate much, you could watch one by a reviewer 'C4ETech' he as great reviews and comparisons on this.
Bottom line: Great screen, good camera (Same sensor as Moto X 2014), great performance (Same CPU as Nexus 5), unique design, great battery life.
Its camera is made by Sony, Screen by LG, Battery and memory probably by Samsung, so all internals are quality parts.
The heating issues etc. have been faced by n00bs who don't understand what it means to have s CPU like SD800 in phone and to what extent these are software issues that can be fixed. I really couldn't expect any part of it to perform better than it does.
The only downside I've felt is that the device seems a little fragile, My friend's S4 has faced some really bad drops from his bike and survived, I don't think my Mi 3 would have been able to survive that, dropped it 2 times and there were significant dents, the screen has no lip covering it and I feel had I dropped it at an odd angle, it would've broken its screen, so use a TPU cover on it. Also the phone did get hot while using 3G data, GPS and Google Maps, though I think every phone would do the same. Still it gets warmer than it should with just Mobile Data on.
Also, sound quality isn't that great, its fine if you use earphones, but I use ATH M50X headphones with my devices, and the difference in sound quality is clear when comparing it to my older Xperia SP.
It is the first phone which I was fully satisfied with, because it was my first experience of a 'flagship phone' and that too for a price in my budget.
Xiaomi is a great company, I have 6 of their devices at home including their tablet, and after using Mi 3 for 1 year I upgraded to Mi 4. Their service center isn't in my city and I've seen more negative reviews about its service than positives, so I can't comment about that. It had no problems while it was with me.

PROS:
1) Cheap
2) Good value for money
CONS:
1) Screen quality is very cheap
2) After sale service pathetic
3) OS Upgrades are weekly but still running on Kitkat
4) Xiaomi does not release full Kernel sources on time, resulting in buggy third party ROMs

PROS:
1) Cheap
2) Good value for money
3) nice screen colors
4) nice battery life (better than my n5)
5) 64 gb-no sd slot
CONS:
1) no sd slot
2) plasticky
3) a grid of dots on the screen
4) android 4.4 (easy to fix just install CM)
5) touchscreen problems when charging
6) huge, bulky but I have small hands
Would I buy it again? Too bulky for me, I'd go for mi4 32gb. Other than that great phone for a great price.

Pros have been fairly well explained but I'll add some more cons to the list.
Cons:
1. Radio is rather weak in these phones. I often times get no signal or it likes to sit at the 2 to 3 bar spot in my area on average.
2. They try and cram to many phones into the same rom causing loss of confusion and frustration in both the user and devs sides.
3. The speaker in this phone is really weak so don't count in hearing a call in your pocket unless you tweak the kernel or mixer_paths.xml which is going to make your phone distort listening to music.
4. Phone vibration is extremely weak as well and you won't feel it in you're pocket at least I can't even after cranking it up in a custom kernel.
I could list more but I don't really feel I have to.
Could I have done worse for $300? Yes I could have.
Would I buy it knowing what I know now? Probably not.
For $300 I would probably get the 64gb zenfone 2 or the oneplus one.
I just bought my brother a 64gb oneplus two and despite all the negative reviews I love that phone compared to this 1 as I do not ever want nfc and 64gb with otg support is more than enough. The speaker in the oneplus two isn't great either but it's louder than this one and if you just download a couple of louder notifications and ringtones it's great. The radio also runs circles around this phone giving 4 to 5 bars compared to my 2 to 3 bars of service. Oneplus also beats it in battery life compared to my phone.
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a.broken.star said:
PROS:
1) Cheap
2) Good value for money
CONS:
1) Screen quality is very cheap
2) After sale service pathetic
3) OS Upgrades are weekly but still running on Kitkat
4) Xiaomi does not release full Kernel sources on time, resulting in buggy third party ROMs
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Agreed :good:

PROS:
1) cheap
2) camera isnt the worst
3) easy to root
4) decent battery life
5) 64gb max
CONS:
1) no gorilla glass
2) camera can record slow motion, but the quality is [po op]
3) i personally think miui is ugly, miui is still in kitkat and xiaomi dont wanna release full kernel source
4) phone is hot when using
5) no sd card slot

Questions before purchase

Hi,
I want to buy something with a 6"+ diagonal with a 16:9-ish AR to replace my dying Zenfone 2. Since nowadays every new phone is released with an 18:9 AR, which is no upgrade from my current 5.5" phone, I have to look at older models. Currently I've almost decided on a Mi Mix.
There is a Mi Mix review on GSMArena, it has some negative points that I'd like to hear a second opinion about before I make my decision.
* IPS LCD: apparently quite bad outside. I can barely see my Zenfone 2 IPS screen in rather cloudy conditions, at max luminosity. Is the Mi Mix screen that bad outside? (I've seen an S8+ under direct sunlight and it was bright as if inside, right next to my Zenfone 2's litterally black screen, but well, amoled is amoled )
* No MicroSD slot: The USB 2 on my Zenfone 2 is very slow, and every time I want to load a few gigs of video of flac files I remove the MicroSD and use an USB3 adapter on my PC, it is way faster this way. Is the Mi Mix Type-C port USB 3 ot two?
* "Our review unit acquired a few scratches on top of its display in the first three days even though we were extra careful in handling it". Ew. Is it really that bad? I've used screen protectors on my older phones but you always see there is one and it is quite distracting. I've had my Zenfone 2 without a protector film in my pant pockets with loose change and keys, and the Gorilla Glass is spotless after 3 years of that. I was intending to do the same with the Mi Mix, but if it won't last a week at a 400-500€ price, I'll look elsewhere.
Thanks.

Neofit26 said:
Hi,
I want to buy something with a 6"+ diagonal with a 16:9-ish AR to replace my dying Zenfone 2. Since nowadays every new phone is released with an 18:9 AR, which is no upgrade from my current 5.5" phone, I have to look at older models. Currently I've almost decided on a Mi Mix.
There is a Mi Mix review on GSMArena, it has some negative points that I'd like to hear a second opinion about before I make my decision.
* IPS LCD: apparently quite bad outside. I can barely see my Zenfone 2 IPS screen in rather cloudy conditions, at max luminosity. Is the Mi Mix screen that bad outside? (I've seen an S8+ under direct sunlight and it was bright as if inside, right next to my Zenfone 2's litterally black screen, but well, amoled is amoled )
* No MicroSD slot: The USB 2 on my Zenfone 2 is very slow, and every time I want to load a few gigs of video of flac files I remove the MicroSD and use an USB3 adapter on my PC, it is way faster this way. Is the Mi Mix Type-C port USB 3 ot two?
* "Our review unit acquired a few scratches on top of its display in the first three days even though we were extra careful in handling it". Ew. Is it really that bad? I've used screen protectors on my older phones but you always see there is one and it is quite distracting. I've had my Zenfone 2 without a protector film in my pant pockets with loose change and keys, and the Gorilla Glass is spotless after 3 years of that. I was intending to do the same with the Mi Mix, but if it won't last a week at a 400-500€ price, I'll look elsewhere.
Thanks.
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Can't comment on most of you're concerns, as for the screen it's fine with outdoor viewing, I never had a screen protector with a year of abuse in my pocket 1 tiny scratch is all I can see.

james1089 said:
Can't comment on most of you're concerns, as for the screen it's fine with outdoor viewing, I never had a screen protector with a year of abuse in my pocket 1 tiny scratch is all I can see.
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Well, that's already 2 concerns out of 3, so thanks!

Hi, according this:
https://www.devicespecifications.com/es/model/9dda3f3d
The USB port is 3.0 in the Mi Mix. I have the 256G version and so neved missed the SD card slot.
As for the display visibility outside there is a thread in this forum about this. My personal experience is that the visibility is not so good when facing the sun directly, but I have a glass screen protector that may be worsening it.

Sounds good, thanks guys. One last thing: since it transmits sound by vibrating the top part of the screen, do other people really hear your conversations? I am reading conflicting opinions on the subject. I suppose that it may be the case in a small and quiet room, but I guess that in the street, in the subway or the train, there is enough ambient noise to counter this?

I'll sale you my mi mix

BigM69 said:
I'll sale you my mi mix
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I am not looking for a used one, but thanks.

No problem, I got it a month ago. I'm probably gonna return it and go grab the note 8!!!

BigM69 said:
No problem, I got it a month ago. I'm probably gonna return it and go grab the note 8!!!
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Which Mi do you have (6MB, 256) and how much...Is condition mint and rooted?

vvette said:
Which Mi do you have (6MB, 256) and how much...Is condition mint and rooted?
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It's the 128gb version

One more thing. It's probably a stupid question, but here goes. One reviewer said that since the Mi Mix' screen is not a standard 16:9 resolution, it will display "standard" content with black bars. Fair enough, I see no way around this anyway. But then he added that native content shot with the Mi Mix will make full usage of the near bezel-less screen. This got me thinking... I suppose the camera does have native and standard 16:9/4:3 modes, doesn't it? I don't want to have to process all my photos and videos every time so they fit onto 16:9 screens without black borders.
Also, if the stock camera app can do that, what of the one that comes with Lineage OS?

Camera app has 4:3 and 16:9, no worries.

Hi
By coincidence I've recently replaced my aging Zenfone 2 ZE551ML with a Mi Mix 6/256: rest assured you won't be regretting the ZF2
The missing SD card is a non-issue, considering the 'minimum' configuration of the Mix provides you with 128GB of storage..
Screen visibility in full daylight is more than adequate for me, and anyway much better than the ZF2 screen. I find the Mix has a better, clearer display somehow.
Can't vouch for the Mix screen resistance, but I've put a cheap glass screen protector on it. Sure it's a tad smaller than the Mix screen - for some reason they don't seem to make properly sized screen glass - but good enough for the time being.
I think you'll appreciate the difference between the two devices, as I did.
PS: have a better look to the ZF2 screen: you'll find lots of small scratches - mine had them, to be sure.
Neofit26 said:
Hi,
I want to buy something with a 6"+ diagonal with a 16:9-ish AR to replace my dying Zenfone 2. Since nowadays every new phone is released with an 18:9 AR, which is no upgrade from my current 5.5" phone, I have to look at older models. Currently I've almost decided on a Mi Mix. (...)
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A quick mini-review for people who might stumble upon this thread with the same concerns that I had. I got the 6/256G variant.
* IPS LCD: way more luminous that the IPS on the old Zenfone 2, so no problem with this. Also, even though the MiMix is larger with the same resolution as the ZF2, it looks sharper.
* No MicroSD slot: while USBTreeView does not show "SS" (super-speed, allegedly USB3) but only "H" (High speed, allegedly USB2), the transfer speed is definitely USB3.
* Scratches: I don't know what the GSMArena reviewers were doing to the phone, or maybe their model had a different screen coating, but after a week in my pants pocket together with some loose change, the screen does not have a single scratch.
* Phone sound: The handset produces a clearly worse sound quality, but this screen vibration does not let other people hear your conversation.
* The stock camera app is kind of garbage-y. No stabilisation. You can change "Camera Frame" from 16:9 to 4:3, and "Picture Quality" between High/Standard/Low, but nowhere did I find figures like "4608x2592 (16:9, 11.93MP)" that free apps like "Open Camera" will show you.
Extra stuff:
* If you are planning to flash the phone right away, be ready to waste 3 days of your life being unable to install and config your phone. The Mi Mix has a locked bootloader, you have to ask Xiaomi for the permission to unlock the device that belongs to you. This part is done quickly though, but then you will have wait 72 hours upon receipt of the permission e-mail until their flashing software allows you to do the actual unlocking.
* It comes with MIUI 8 (Android 6), and no apt-x. If you have good headphones like the Sennheiser Momentum M2, the difference will be huge.
* I was intending to install Lineage OS for the apt-x support. After flashing I figured it did not have the official Google Play app (big duh! moment ). Not willing to risk using an ersatz then fight with compatibility issues (I have quite a few official paid apps), I flashed MIUI 9 Global beta (Android 7.1.2). Even though by itself MIUI 8 and 9 are rather rubbish (if I didn't want an app drawer I'd have bought an iphone ), with the Nova Launcher it works fine. And it has apt-x too.
Overall I am quite happy with the purchase so far.

Great thread.. i just bought one and waiting for it to arrive. i live in canada. where do you guys who own one live ?? im asking because i also read something about the 4G LTE bands missing or slow ?? do you guys have issues with data speeds ?
also, i am probably gonna root the phone. how did you contact Xioami to get the unlock codes for bootloader ?
confused also to flash global rom or go with a custom or the difference between LiniageOS or the other options.. my head hurts just thinking about it.. LOL..
again, i'm from canada.. does one version work "better" ?
thanks for any feedback.. can't wait to get the phone

obtuce said:
Great thread.. i just bought one and waiting for it to arrive. i live in canada. where do you guys who own one live ?? im asking because i also read something about the 4G LTE bands missing or slow ?? do you guys have issues with data speeds ?
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Well, I live in the other side of the world (Israel) and I have no problem with data speeds and I get 4G LTE almost everywhere with good reception, But I dont know about North America (In Israel there are no problems with 4G LTE bands and data speed on chinese phones).

good to know.. thanks for that..

Where have all the big phones gone?

Coming from a Huawei Mediapad X2 with a 7 inch screen. I am still looking for a phone with a large screen in a world that seems to now be going backwards screen size wise.
I have the Mi Mix 2 now and love it, but was really hoping the Mi Mix 2 was going to have a screen at least as big. I'm not really interested in going back down to a 6 inch screen.
The Huawei Mediapad X2 was great, 5000mah battery lasted for 3-4 days. But the CPU was just not that great anymore, it was always a little sluggish.
Are there any decent options out there any more for something in the 6.5 to 7 inch screen size? In a perfect world i'd like a 7 inch Mi Mix.
I actually still have my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 that I used as a phone for a year. but that was just a little too big. The sweet spot for me is a 7 inch screen preferably in a shell made small by minimal bezels.

@omniphil i have to say for a lover of big screens, my most optimum size was the Mi Max, which had a great battery too!
i was hoping the Mi Mix 2 would have been of a similar size, with a big battery, but was disappointed, so ended up with the MiMix (same size screen as the MiMax (6.44), but less bulky and better battery than the MiMix2.

I just stumbled across this... We'll see if this actually come to the light of day.. 5500mah battery!!!
https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max_3-8963.php

I had the same problems last year. Didn't help that pretty much any review site classes a phablet as anything 5.5 and up. That said, if the consensus is that 5.5+ is phablet territory, it's not surprising that there are so few devices in the 6.5-7 inch range.
When I was looking for an upgrade from my Nexus 6 I knew I couldn't go back to smaller than 6 inches. Even at that size, most other phones felt very small. Even then the only 4 decent picks were the Mix and the Max (1), which both used the same screen, the Lenovo Phab2 Pro, and the Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra (6.8) . The S8+ would have been ideal but it had only recently launched and was almost double the price of the Mix. In hindsight, I probably should have waited 4-5 months for the price to drop but I'd already had the N6 for a long time.
I ruled out the Max because it was just a bulkier, lower-specced Mix and the Phab 2 for much the same reasons. Even though the Ultra had a considerably bigger screen, it wasn't that much cheaper than the Mix and again it had mid-range specs. It had advantages like dual speakers, expandable memory ,and a slightly larger battery, but the Mix was just so impressive looking that I pretty much knew it was the one as soon as I saw it in reviews. Even today I still haven't seen any device that looks better (although a lot of reviews claim the Mix 2 looks better, I don't see it).
Since Xioami already have the Max line, I doubt the Mix will ever be as big again. Maybe they'll bump it a little for the Mix 3, but I can't see it, and certainly not 6.5-7. By the time the Mix 3 comes along I doubt they'd be able to get away with 1080p again. So, a larger/denser screen, high-end CPU/GPU, and maybe 8GB of RAM would put it in the S9/iPhone price bracket. I think I'd just settle for the Max 3, but it only edges the Mix in terms of screen size/expandable memory and stereo speakers. It's not really enough to call it an upgrde for most. If only they'd have gone with a more powerful SoC I'd definitely have switched.
What else is there, realistically, in that 6+ range, even now? Aside from the S8+, Note 8, Phab2, Max 2- not much else that I know of. Maybe Asus will launch an Ultra 4, but I can't see it based on the pretty poor reception/sales of the Ultra 3. I'll probably hold on for the summer for the Phab3 (6.5, Snapdragon 835, 6GB RAM). It won't look as good as the Mix, but it will at least be of a similar (and not lesser) size, and it'll have better performance.

gavin19 said:
I had the same problems last year. Didn't help that pretty much any review site classes a phablet as anything 5.5 and up. That said, if the consensus is that 5.5+ is phablet territory, it's not surprising that there are so few devices in the 6.5-7 inch range.
When I was looking for an upgrade from my Nexus 6 I knew I couldn't go back to smaller than 6 inches. Even at that size, most other phones felt very small. Even then the only 4 decent picks were the Mix and the Max (1), which both used the same screen, the Lenovo Phab2 Pro, and the Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra (6.8) . The S8+ would have been ideal but it had only recently launched and was almost double the price of the Mix. In hindsight, I probably should have waited 4-5 months for the price to drop but I'd already had the N6 for a long time.
I ruled out the Max because it was just a bulkier, lower-specced Mix and the Phab 2 for much the same reasons. Even though the Ultra had a considerably bigger screen, it wasn't that much cheaper than the Mix and again it had mid-range specs. It had advantages like dual speakers, expandable memory ,and a slightly larger battery, but the Mix was just so impressive looking that I pretty much knew it was the one as soon as I saw it in reviews. Even today I still haven't seen any device that looks better (although a lot of reviews claim the Mix 2 looks better, I don't see it).
Since Xioami already have the Max line, I doubt the Mix will ever be as big again. Maybe they'll bump it a little for the Mix 3, but I can't see it, and certainly not 6.5-7. By the time the Mix 3 comes along I doubt they'd be able to get away with 1080p again. So, a larger/denser screen, high-end CPU/GPU, and maybe 8GB of RAM would put it in the S9/iPhone price bracket. I think I'd just settle for the Max 3, but it only edges the Mix in terms of screen size/expandable memory and stereo speakers. It's not really enough to call it an upgrde for most. If only they'd have gone with a more powerful SoC I'd definitely have switched.
What else is there, realistically, in that 6+ range, even now? Aside from the S8+, Note 8, Phab2, Max 2- not much else that I know of. Maybe Asus will launch an Ultra 4, but I can't see it based on the pretty poor reception/sales of the Ultra 3. I'll probably hold on for the summer for the Phab3 (6.5, Snapdragon 835, 6GB RAM). It won't look as good as the Mix, but it will at least be of a similar (and not lesser) size, and it'll have better performance.
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Yea but you gain an inch with no bezel

Is the Xiamoi Mi Mix 256gb / 6 GB RAM still worth it in 2018?

Hello,
I'm actually really in love with this phone... it has a huge 6.4" screen, it's nearly bezel-less, it looks great, the display looks awesome, it has 6 GB of ram.
If I think about it, actually there's nothing wrong with it.
But if I think longer about it, I have my concerns.
I'm from the EU, to be more specific - germany. And I know this phone doesn't support band 20 iirc, but that's not a huge problem for me.
I'm just not sure how it performs in the EU in other aspects.
For example, I've seen a review about the phone in the US in which the guy said that it has problems with google services like Gmail and the Google voice assistant not working properly.
On the other side, the video was from december 2016 - how much has changed until now in terms of software and compatibility to EU countries?
I know the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 is already available and the 2S will be soon, but somehow I feel like those are "downgrades" and not really upgrades.
Of course, the hardware is better in Mi Mix 2 and 2S but the Design, Display etc. looks more like a downgrade.
What do you think?

Honestly one of the best phones I have ever had.
I have gone through 4 ?. I also had note 8 and iPhone X and I can promise you the phone is amazing. The one down side is the camera. It's not that bad but it's not up on par with what's out there today. But the screen size and battery is the best.
I have had them since day one that was launched and broke 2. Gave one to wife and kept 4th for me. Fixed one of the broken ones and have it as a backup.

addicTix said:
Hello,
I'm actually really in love with this phone... it has a huge 6.4" screen, it's nearly bezel-less, it looks great, the display looks awesome, it has 6 GB of ram.
If I think about it, actually there's nothing wrong with it.
But if I think longer about it, I have my concerns.
I'm from the EU, to be more specific - germany. And I know this phone doesn't support band 20 iirc, but that's not a huge problem for me.
I'm just not sure how it performs in the EU in other aspects.
For example, I've seen a review about the phone in the US in which the guy said that it has problems with google services like Gmail and the Google voice assistant not working properly.
On the other side, the video was from december 2016 - how much has changed until now in terms of software and compatibility to EU countries?
I know the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 is already available and the 2S will be soon, but somehow I feel like those are "downgrades" and not really upgrades.
Of course, the hardware is better in Mi Mix 2 and 2S but the Design, Display etc. looks more like a downgrade.
What do you think?
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Everything works as it should, ok Google from a screen off doesn't work as it doesn't have the hardware for that, for everything else ok Google works like any other phone. Nearly 2 years later they are still worth over 50% of what I paid.

fatouraee said:
Honestly one of the best phones I have ever had.
I have gone through 4 . I also had note 8 and iPhone X and I can promise you the phone is amazing. The one down side is the camera. It's not that bad but it's not up on par with what's out there today. But the screen size and battery is the best.
I have had them since day one that was launched and broke 2. Gave one to wife and kept 4th for me. Fixed one of the broken ones and have it as a backup.
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But you broke them in a physical way right? Like, you dropped them?
I'm a bit afraid of buying the mi mix and having a faulty phone like dead pixels on the screen or something like this.
james1089 said:
Everything works as it should, ok Google from a screen off doesn't work as it doesn't have the hardware for that, for everything else ok Google works like any other phone. Nearly 2 years later they are still worth over 50% of what I paid.
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That sounds good! Thanks

addicTix said:
But you broke them in a physical way right? Like, you dropped them?
I'm a bit afraid of buying the mi mix and having a faulty phone like dead pixels on the screen or something like this.
That sounds good! Thanks
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If you drop it, it's really easy to fix, 50 Euros for a new screen from AliExpress and they really are good quality, bought a s8+ but I am going to sell it, prefer the mix 18 months later.

james1089 said:
If you drop it, it's really easy to fix, 50 Euros for a new screen from AliExpress and they really are good quality, bought a s8+ but I am going to sell it, prefer the mix 18 months later.
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But is the screen from AliExpress the same as the one they use in the Mi Mix?

addicTix said:
But is the screen from AliExpress the same as the one they use in the Mi Mix?
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Made by same manufacturers, just buy 1, especially if you are a developer:laugh:

If you use a good case you don't need to worry about it getting damaged. I broke 2 cuz I didn't have a case on them. but they were repairable. At the time I broke them, there were no parts, but now you can find all the parts and they are relatively cheap.

Alright, thanks!
And if I buy the chinese version of this phone, is it the same as the global version only with a chinese rom?
And can I flash the official global rom without any problems from here http://en.miui.com/download-317.html#471 ?

Yes. I have both and no difference between them.

fatouraee said:
Yes. I have both and no difference between them.
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Thank you!
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bought a s8+ but I am going to sell it, prefer the mix 18 months later.
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What's the reason for you, that you prefer the Mi Mix over the S8+?
In terms of hardware, the S8+ should be the superior phone afaik - so I assume this is not the reason

addicTix said:
Thank you!
What's the reason for you, that you prefer the Mi Mix over the S8+?
In terms of hardware, the S8+ should be the superior phone afaik - so I assume this is not the reason
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Can't really answer that, even my wife says the mix is easier to use, might just be the wider screen.

But in the end, it's still a reliable phone?
It's just that head thing which makes me struggling. I would actually buy a 1 year 3 months old phone for ~450€. And there's already a Mi Mix 2... and soon a Mi Mix 2S
Currently I have a LG G2.
In terms of camera, is the Mi Mix better than my G2 from 2013 or ~same or even better? I heard that the camera is not really good, but that makes me thinking - maybe it's just not on pair with high end phones like S8+ / Note 8 so people know there's something better.
What I want to say is, maybe the Mi Mix's camera isn't that bad, just worse than S8 and co but still superior to older phones like mine.

addicTix said:
But in the end, it's still a reliable phone?
It's just that head thing which makes me struggling. I would actually buy a 1 year 3 months old phone for ~450€. And there's already a Mi Mix 2... and soon a Mi Mix 2S
Currently I have a LG G2.
In terms of camera, is the Mi Mix better than my G2 from 2013 or ~same or even better? I heard that the camera is not really good, but that makes me thinking - maybe it's just not on pair with high end phones like S8+ / Note 8 so people know there's something better.
What I want to say is, maybe the Mi Mix's camera isn't that bad, just worse than S8 and co but still superior to older phones like mine.
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If camera is your thing look elsewhere, it's improved with gcam but not the best.

So what you are telling me is, the camera has improved quality when I download the google camera app and take pictures with that?
I mean, I'm not a big camera guy. Of course, the one from S8 etc. makes great photos but that's not why I'm buying a smartphone.
If the cam is at least on the same level as the one in my G2 or a bit better, that's totally fine for me.
Also btw, do you know a good Etui for the Mi Mix + silicon bumper?
I bought a silicon bumper to protect it a bit when I'm using it (of course it doesn't make the phone drop-proofed, obviously), but I'm also not a huge fan of screen-protectors on phones.
That's why I need an etui where I can slide the phone it and put it in my pockets, so the screen is safe.
I found a few for the xiaomi mi mix, but the dimensions of them suggested that it would fit perfectly without bumper, but with one which adds ~1.1mm it could get really tight.
So I would need something with more space

addicTix said:
So what you are telling me is, the camera has improved quality when I download the google camera app and take pictures with that?
I mean, I'm not a big camera guy. Of course, the one from S8 etc. makes great photos but that's not why I'm buying a smartphone.
If the cam is at least on the same level as the one in my G2 or a bit better, that's totally fine for me.
Also btw, do you know a good Etui for the Mi Mix + silicon bumper?
I bought a silicon bumper to protect it a bit when I'm using it (of course it doesn't make the phone drop-proofed, obviously), but I'm also not a huge fan of screen-protectors on phones.
That's why I need an etui where I can slide the phone it and put it in my pockets, so the screen is safe.
I found a few for the xiaomi mi mix, but the dimensions of them suggested that it would fit perfectly without bumper, but with one which adds ~1.1mm it could get really tight.
So I would need something with more space
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The transparent cases work well, took it off for 1 day got drunk and broke the screen, they def protect the screen and stop it slipping out of hands. I got a scratch resistant one and it still looks like new.

I am a bit of a serial phone buyer and tend to change devices fairly often, but I have had the Mi Mix as my main device since last summer and can't see another device on the market that would be better for my needs.
The Good
- Official lineage support
- Huge screen with a 17:9 aspect ratio (better than 18:9 IMHO)
- Minimal bezels
- NFC for Android Pay (needs Magisk in Lineage)
- Great battery life
- Beautiful design
The Bad
- Camera quality (can be mitigated by installing the Google Pixel camera)
- No Band 20 (not an issue with my network)
I'm looking forward to the Mi Max 3 which should be announced in the late spring / early summer, but there isn't too much on the horizon which would make me want to swap out my Mi Mix 1.

I received my Mi Mix 1 today and I really like it.
But there's one negative aspect I noticed and I wanted to know if other users noticed it as well.
The screen is a bit blurry in motion imo compared to my G2.
For example on the homescreen when I slide the screen from left to right, the font of apps are getting somewhat blurry, so does the icon.
It's a bit like ghosting, like when the screen's response time is not that great.
Can anyone confirm this?
It's not extremely blurry and I probably can live with it, don't think it would be worth the hassle with gearbest especially if I don't know if it's just how the screen is.
Another thing, and that's pretty much personal preference, the screen is a bit yellowish on natural with read mode disabled.
Warm and natural are too yellowish for my taste, cold is way too bluish.
I couldn't find any option to adjust RGB myself.
Is there a way to do this?

addicTix said:
So what you are telling me is, the camera has improved quality when I download the google camera app and take pictures with that?
I mean, I'm not a big camera guy. Of course, the one from S8 etc. makes great photos but that's not why I'm buying a smartphone.
If the cam is at least on the same level as the one in my G2 or a bit better, that's totally fine for me.
Also btw, do you know a good Etui for the Mi Mix + silicon bumper?
I bought a silicon bumper to protect it a bit when I'm using it (of course it doesn't make the phone drop-proofed, obviously), but I'm also not a huge fan of screen-protectors on phones.
That's why I need an etui where I can slide the phone it and put it in my pockets, so the screen is safe.
I found a few for the xiaomi mi mix, but the dimensions of them suggested that it would fit perfectly without bumper, but with one which adds ~1.1mm it could get really tight.
So I would need something with more space
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Live my mi mix. Bought this case for it: http://s.aliexpress.com/y2miEjqM?fromSns=Clipboard
Sent from my Xiaomi Mi Mix using XDA Labs

I also was a guy that bought a new phone every 8 to 9 months. Until the mi mix that is. Honestly i now can't see myself buying another phone for another year or two. I stopped browsing the new phone news/specs loooong ago.
Would love a similar phone with sdcard and more bands. That is all.

7 things I wish I knew before buying the K20 Pro

This isn't a rant, just things which I've noticed of considerable concern.
Hi, just a full disclosure. I bought a K20 Pro Chinese rom from Aliexpress, waited 3 months and watched a lot of reviews. I'm english speaking, so none of these issues were brought up in the video's I watched.
1) The speaker at the bottom is too easy to cover, as a right hand user. I cannot comfortably watch videos in portrait mode without accidentally concealing it.
2) The camera reflects its own infrared on closeup images of shiny objects.
https://imgur.com/9iCMfut
3) The display is not sharp. This clarity is comparable to the Galaxy S3, you can see the pixels individually and quite vividly. This makes icon edges appear blurry. I'll put this down to the low resolution, as compared to my 2k display of the Galaxy Note 5.
https://imgur.com/rExaM1Z
4) The display is very thin. Having come from the Galaxy Note 5, I'm used to a wider phone. But this is much to small to consume media in vertical form.
5) The battery life isn't great. It lasts a day, and only a day with medium use.
6) Gestures in Android 9 are broken. Specifically the 'recents gesture' and the 'go back'. I only had about a 10% success rate with the 'recents gesture', it just didn't want to work. Whereas the 'go back' gesture works a bit too well and I was constantly going back accidentally as you can swipe from either side.
7) MIUI is not good. I personally do not find it enjoyable to use.

Three months is a long time. I was getting impatient and got it after 30 days. I'll say I agree with the speaker being easy to cover, that being said you can just turn the phone upside down.

1) just turn device upside down.
2) weird thing indeed
3) pretty okay for the price, not best display ever, but not uncomfortable to me..
4)there's a choice here, if you make it too wide, you make it hard to use with a single hand...
5) pretty great here, I don't know what you call "medium use", but here I'm getting all day long (lasting around 25% in the end of it) with 7 hours of screen on... I consider it as hard use. It is not great compared to what, exactly?
6)never used it, can't opine...
7)I used to be a vanilla guy, miui stock is just awful for me. But, xiaomi.eu rom is pretty great, I believe you could give it a try. It is just what miui should be...
Cheers

I wasn't pleased too when i went from Galaxy s8 to one plus 5t about the display but you will get used to it believe me , it's a good display you will not notice any pixel after some time , almost every phone nowadays comes in FHD+ except high end Samsung , besides it's 6'4 inch it's really big
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And you're completely wrong about the battery life maybe you have a faulty unit because the battery is amazing I'm getting 7 to 9 SOT

In my opinion:
1) Agree with you, but although I always (almost) use headphones it doesnt bother me. But, you can flip the phone to avoid this scenario...
2) Never noticed.
3) It is really not an ultra sharp display, but it is far from S3, which was ~300ppi, K20 is ~400ppi. Amoled pentile will hardly give an sharp display on FHD+ displays.
4) You are a long time whitout upgrading, thin phones are a trend since 2018. Last decent 16:9 phone was Huawei Mate 10.
5) Luckily you didnt buy other phones as this one have a great battery life on today standards.
6) It is necessary some time to get used and increase accuracy on gestures.
7) Having had mainly Samsungs, LGs, Motos, Huaweis and Xiaomis, I think MIUI is on par with EMUI (Huawei) and better than Samsung/LG/Moto.
Edit: Item 5. According to GSMArena, battery on K20 stands ~45% longer than Note5 for video playback. ~15% more for talking time, and ~25% more for browsing.

I don't know if the K20 Pro is different from the Mi 9T Pro but i can't agree on the unsharp display. Maybe with a magnifying glass but it is as sharp as any other phone i had before including my P30. Same for the battery life, i can easily hit 10 hours SOT in a day without having to charge it. Tried gestures, works well for me. The thin display isn't as good for videos, yes but overall it's quite nice to use/ handle. Also i'm okay with MIUI. It looks pretty nice and got some good customization options and it's certainly better than EMUI. But i can agree on it being a bit weird to use if you're used to stock Android.

Thanks for your positive feedback.
Someone suggested that I just rotate the phone 180 degrees to avoid covering the speaker, how does one enable this rotation in miui?
A suggestion was made about miui.eu, I plan to flash this when the 7 day unlock period expires.
Regarding the battery, it's just not revolutionary. Sitting around the 1 day mark. Has anyone had any positive battery life improvements using a custom kernel?

Turbine1991 said:
This isn't a rant, just things which I've noticed of considerable concern.
Hi, just a full disclosure. I bought a K20 Pro Chinese rom from Aliexpress, waited 3 months and watched a lot of reviews. I'm english speaking, so none of these issues were brought up in the video's I watched.
1) The speaker at the bottom is too easy to cover, as a right hand user. I cannot comfortably watch videos in portrait mode without accidentally concealing it.
2) The camera reflects its own infrared on closeup images of shiny objects.
https://imgur.com/9iCMfut
3) The display is not sharp. This clarity is comparable to the Galaxy S3, you can see the pixels individually and quite vividly. This makes icon edges appear blurry. I'll put this down to the low resolution, as compared to my 2k display of the Galaxy Note 5.
https://imgur.com/rExaM1Z
4) The display is very thin. Having come from the Galaxy Note 5, I'm used to a wider phone. But this is much to small to consume media in vertical form.
5) The battery life isn't great. It lasts a day, and only a day with medium use.
6) Gestures in Android 9 are broken. Specifically the 'recents gesture' and the 'go back'. I only had about a 10% success rate with the 'recents gesture', it just didn't want to work. Whereas the 'go back' gesture works a bit too well and I was constantly going back accidentally as you can swipe from either side.
7) MIUI is not good. I personally do not find it enjoyable to use.
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hmmm no way its comparable , fyi i still have mine retired S3 , a sammy user since galaxy S , size wise k20 pro its pretty standard , note series i is always consider a bigger size phone , similar one perhaps might be mi max ? battery seem good so far , sorry but older sammy phones model, battery life always fail me , gestures , never use , maybe i am old school , miui does take a while to get used to , just throw in a poco launcher ,never like miui messy home screen , and the price you paid for a sd855 , not sure what country you are from , a samsung comes with exynos chipset most of the time , cant expect top quality hardware in all aspect ?

1. This issue isn't exactly exclusive to the K20 Pro, many devices have bottom firing speakers, not really and issue for me. I am also right handed and I rarely cover the speaker when using it in landscape.
2. You can avoid the infrared reflection issue by switching to manual focus.
3. Imo the display is fine. You are just coming from a phone with a QHD display (you should have done your research before buying)
4. The display is supposed to be taller and the fact that its taller make its naturally narrower for its size (6.39") The aspect ratio (18:9) on the K20 Pro is is used on all modern flagships now as it is better suited to the portrait content that is consumed on a smartphone. and as for "This clarity is comparable to the Galaxy S3" either your device is faulty or you're just talking crap. The galaxy S3 has a pixel density of 306 ppi and the K20 Pro's display has a pixel density of 403 ppi which is more than a noticeable difference
5. Most people have reported great battery life. I have gotten 2 days on a single charge before and in some cases getting over 10 hours of screen on time unless you game then of course it wont last as long.
6. I haven't had any issues with MIUI gestures, they work perfectly fine for me.
7. I love MIUI, this is my first Xiaomi device. When I first ordered the device I didn't think I'd like MIUI and thought I would end up switching to a custom rom like Pixel Experience or Lineage but I learned to love it. MIUI has the best gestures, it looks awesome, it is well optimised and performs great with great battery life.
I did a considerable amount of research before buying. Some of the issue you have stated were mentioned like the bottom firing speaker, the display being FHD+, the infrared reflection wasn't an issue on your note 5 because the note 5 doesn't have laser autofocus (which can be disabled) this isnt really an issue its just an extra feature on the K20 Pro which you don't have to use.
The K20 Pro is far cheaper than any other current flagship out there, so you cant expect it to have all the same flagship features. They obviously had to save money in some areas, for example the display is FHD+ unlike some Samsung, LG, Sony and OnePlus devices which have QHD Displays, Gorilla Glass 5 instead of 6, no wireless charging, the type-c port is only USB 2.0, no IP rating when this devices has been proven to be considerably water resistant

lordkiller347 said:
1. This issue isn't exactly exclusive to the K20 Pro, many devices have bottom firing speakers, not really and issue for me. I am also right handed and I rarely cover the speaker when using it in landscape.
2. You can avoid the infrared reflection issue by switching to manual focus.
3. Imo the display is fine. You are just coming from a phone with a QHD display (you should have done your research before buying)
4. The display is supposed to be taller and the fact that its taller make its naturally narrower for its size (6.39") The aspect ratio (18:9) on the K20 Pro is is used on all modern flagships now as it is better suited to the portrait content that is consumed on a smartphone. and as for "This clarity is comparable to the Galaxy S3" either your device is faulty or you're just talking crap. The galaxy S3 has a pixel density of 306 ppi and the K20 Pro's display has a pixel density of 403 ppi which is more than a noticeable difference
5. Most people have reported great battery life. I have gotten 2 days on a single charge before and in some cases getting over 10 hours of screen on time unless you game then of course it wont last as long.
6. I haven't had any issues with MIUI gestures, they work perfectly fine for me.
7. I love MIUI, this is my first Xiaomi device. When I first ordered the device I didn't think I'd like MIUI and thought I would end up switching to a custom rom like Pixel Experience or Lineage but I learned to love it. MIUI has the best gestures, it looks awesome, it is well optimised and performs great with great battery life.
I did a considerable amount of research before buying. Some of the issue you have stated were mentioned like the bottom firing speaker, the display being FHD+, the infrared reflection wasn't an issue on your note 5 because the note 5 doesn't have laser autofocus (which can be disabled) this isnt really an issue its just an extra feature on the K20 Pro which you don't have to use.
The K20 Pro is far cheaper than any other current flagship out there, so you cant expect it to have all the same flagship features. They obviously had to save money in some areas, for example the display is FHD+ unlike some Samsung, LG, Sony and OnePlus devices which have QHD Displays, Gorilla Glass 5 instead of 6, no wireless charging, the type-c port is only USB 2.0, no IP rating when this devices has been proven to be considerably water resistant
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+1 to all of this except 7.
MIUI does have some plus points, but for me, nowhere near enough to compensate for it's bad points. The only thing I miss is MIUI gestures.
I bought the phone knowing I'd be going to custom ROMs as soon as the bootloader could be unlocked.
With a good custom ROM, I cannot fault the phone for it's price point.

I gotta say that I think the battery life is absolutely insane (I came from a jailbroken iPhone X, but had tons of Xiaomis etc before). I charge it every evening but sometimes I just dont, because I got 60+ % and it jsut doesnt feel right.
I use the MIUI 11 ROM from xiaomi.eu, and I really loved MIUI since MIUI 6/7. I enjoyed some extra features(really great dark mode, always on display, dual apps, ...) and the visual look of it. As far as I know there are already quite a lot of roms with stock android for the phone.

Robbo.5000 said:
+1 to all of this except 7.
MIUI does have some plus points, but for me, nowhere near enough to compensate for it's bad points. The only thing I miss is MIUI gestures.
I bought the phone knowing I'd be going to custom ROMs as soon as the bootloader could be unlocked.
With a good custom ROM, I cannot fault the phone for it's price point.
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You say it doesn't compensate for its bad point. If you're gonna say something like that then maybe you should enlighten us on what those bad points are.

lordkiller347 said:
You say it doesn't compensate for its bad point. If you're gonna say something like that then maybe you should enlighten us on what those bad points are.
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My main issues are
Data Harvesting - on a worse scale than Google
Ads - which are convoluted to turn off, though it's supposed to be easier in MIUI 11
Bloatware - There is an immense amount of bloat, most of which cannot be removed. Compare the running services of a freshly booted phone running MIUI with, say, an AOSP ROM and see the vast increase MIUI is running, the majority if which you have no idea what or why.
It was developed to be, and still is to some degree, an iOS clone.
There were others and if I were to revert back to MIUI I'd remember what they were.

Turbine1991 said:
Thanks for your positive feedback.
Someone suggested that I just rotate the phone 180 degrees to avoid covering the speaker, how does one enable this rotation in miui?
A suggestion was made about miui.eu, I plan to flash this when the 7 day unlock period expires.
Regarding the battery, it's just not revolutionary. Sitting around the 1 day mark. Has anyone had any positive battery life improvements using a custom kernel?
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Do you own the indian variant or chinese? Apparently the indian has a lower quality display, that could explain why some people aren't finding that themselves, because I own the chinese and its pretty damn clear; Even comparing it to friends S9/S10's and latest iPhones.

The screen doesn't seem pixelated to me. Perhaps you're used to higher resolution displays. I've upgraded from the OnePlus 5 and haven't seen a reduction in image quality.
Gestures work fine for me. I didn't need an adjustment period, they were pretty intuitive and back works pretty much every time (with no accidental back swipes), while recents works like 9/10 times.
I don't have a problem with covering the speaker. When watching YouTube I grip the phone by the middle section with one hand, I don't hold it with both hands like when you play games.
Battery life isn't extraordinary, but it's decent compared to my OnePlus 5.
You can debloat most MIUI ROMs using the Xiaomi ADB/Fastboot tool.

Looking forward to trying miui 11. It's not officially available yet to Chinese rom users outside China.

Turbine1991 said:
Looking forward to trying miui 11. It's not officially available yet to Chinese rom users outside China.
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xiaomi.eu is the way to go

Okay, real talk
point 5 is straight up trolling?
I have to charge mine like once in 2 days and you're talking about not great battery life - what the hell
A full charge gets me like 11 sometimes even 12 hours SoT with medium/normal usage (youtube, spotify, browsing, mails etc. - basically everything except games).
Do you game all day long or what?
what battery life do you expect anyway? Theres not many devices which can even last that long as the K20 Pro/Mi 9T Pro does (with somewhat similar pefomance obviously)

NZ Razer said:
Do you own the indian variant or chinese? Apparently the indian has a lower quality display, that could explain why some people aren't finding that themselves, because I own the chinese and its pretty damn clear; Even comparing it to friends S9/S10's and latest iPhones.
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OP must have a defective unit (battery, display). There is no way the display is 'poor' quality, compared to my 6T its much sharper and vivid. Battery life is also one of the best I have seen (less than 2% discharge overnight) I have been playing games on Dolphin, PPSSPP, etc and a full charge can easily last 4+ hours, and that's using emulators which are extreme battery hogs. Xiaomi have been pretty transparent about how and when they collect our data by giving us optout options nearly everywhere, which is something I cant say about other shady companies out there who are in the same line of business. Besides, data harvesting and adds can easily be tackled by debloating/flashing EU rom, where the 1st done doesn't even need root.
Finally coming from OOS the MIUI can be a pain to use but now I am beginning to like the features that it offers, for example, full-screen mode and gestures which I never thought would make my life so much easier. All in all this phone has been a wonderful upgrade for me and I couldn't be any happier.

Turbine1991 said:
Looking forward to trying miui 11. It's not officially available yet to Chinese rom users outside China.
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whats weird is many of mine country already gotten android 10 update , i didnt received any