Hi, I'm looking for a way of selecting secondary (telephoto) camera, or just a way how to recognize which camera is taking photos (I'm doing test with finger over camera now )
I know about "x2" icon, which does: "select tele lens, if you have enough light, but use digital zoom of main camera if you want. But don't tell user, which camera is active any way!"
Thank you for ideas!
konvalink said:
Hi, I'm looking for a way of selecting secondary (telephoto) camera, or just a way how to recognize which camera is taking photos (I'm doing test with finger over camera now )
I know about "x2" icon, which does: "select tele lens, if you have enough light, but use digital zoom of main camera if you want. But don't tell user, which camera is active any way!"
Thank you for ideas!
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Using 3x zoom in the camera doesn't switch to the 80mm lens. It just gives a crop from the 40mp main sensor.
Is there a way to actually use the 3x lens?
In my case to make it work I force Focus, after that i can see the swap between lenses.
Horayken said:
In my case to make it work I force Focus, after that i can see the swap between lenses.
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How do you force focus? I tired manual focus and it still didn't change lenses when going from 1 to 3x
viper98 said:
How do you force focus? I tired manual focus and it still didn't change lenses when going from 1 to 3x
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Just tap somewhere in the picture and it will change to the optical zoom lens.
djlukas1983 said:
Just tap somewhere in the picture and it will change to the optical zoom lens.
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That doesn't do anything but use a crop from the 40mp sensor to give a fake "zoom". You would get the same results using the 40mp mode and cropping the image yourself
I'm convinced the optical zoom lens exists for nothing but marketing. The only lens on the back that is ever used for any photos is the middle lens.
Maybe it is something weird with mine. You can check this by covering the other lenses with your finger
viper98 said:
That doesn't do anything but use a crop from the 40mp sensor to give a fake "zoom". You would get the same results using the 40mp mode and cropping the image yourself
I'm convinced the optical zoom lens exists for nothing but marketing. The only lens on the back that is ever used for any photos is the middle lens.
Maybe it is something weird with mine. You can check this by covering the other lenses with your finger
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You must use it in enough bright environment because it won't switch to zoom lens when it's not enough bright.
viper98 said:
That doesn't do anything but use a crop from the 40mp sensor to give a fake "zoom". You would get the same results using the 40mp mode and cropping the image yourself
I'm convinced the optical zoom lens exists for nothing but marketing. The only lens on the back that is ever used for any photos is the middle lens.
Maybe it is something weird with mine. You can check this by covering the other lenses with your finger
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Dude, everyone can see the lens switching, the telephoto one have OIS, i use the zoom all the time, if i cover the telephoto lens i cant see anything, so yes the telephoto is fully functional and not a made up marketing, in pie they even added a toggle to the HDR mode so you can get HDR pictures using it faster. (in adroid oreo you can manually zoom until 3x on HDR but now alot easier). the only times you cant use it and the phone will switch back to the main lens, is:
1. At Night or when theres not enough light.
2.If you try to focus a object that is just too close.
djlukas1983 said:
You must use it in enough bright environment because it won't switch to zoom lens when it's not enough bright.
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I was wondering why my indoor 3x zoom pics were so poor. I had tried covering the zoom lens in the past, proving that it actually does switch between the two lenses. What I didn't realize until now, is that when the camera doesn't have enough light, the zoom lens isn't used and the 3x becomes a digital zoom using the main (middle) lens. You can easily see this by turning on the 3x zoom, covering it up, and shifting a live view from a bright window to a dark area inside - when pointing outside the lens is blocked, but when you swing around and point the camera inside you can see the image (because it is no longer using the 2x lens).
That explains the poor indoor zoom shots I've been taking - thanks!!
Now I still need to find out what the monochrome lens is actually doing in colour photos. Playing with blocking the lens only seems to have an effect in monochrome mode, but it is supposed to contribute to capturing all photos. Any suggestions...?
Why is it not possible to manual choose what lens to use in pro mode?
I want to use the 2 telephoto lenses in pro mode so I can get raw format photos, but can only use the main and ultra wide sensor? Any workaround?
And sometimes in auto the phone "forgets" to change to the telephoto when zooming and just digitally zooms in? And I know you cant use the telephoto in 108 mp mode.
I love the zoom capabilities, but I want more control
tobnie8 said:
Why is it not possible to manual choose what lens to use in pro mode?
I want to use the 2 telephoto lenses in pro mode so I can get raw format photos, but can only use the main and ultra wide sensor? Any workaround?
And sometimes in auto the phone "forgets" to change to the telephoto when zooming and just digitally zooms in? And I know you cant use the telephoto in 108 mp mode.
I love the zoom capabilities, but I want more control
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As michael Jackson sing...: You are not alone.....but samsung don't want open it (GCAM).....
I discovered something strange with my S20 FE. When I open the camera and try the ultra-wide, the wide and the zoom, the last camera module is never used! I tried this by blocking the cameras with my fingers. So the middle camera is used for both the wide and zoom mode, which means that the device does not have an optical zoom camera OR the optical zoom works in a different way than I thought!
I also tried to take some pictures while covering the cameras, just to see if the viewfinder uses different cameras than the ones that are used for the actual shoot, but the result does not change (zoom photos are taken using the wide).
So here are my questions:
1) What is the bottom camera used for?
2) How is there an optical zoom if both the wide and zoom photos are taken using the same sensor?
3) Is this the same sensor/approach like in S20 which uses an 64MP sensor to shoot 3X hybrid zoom?
4) Anyone that has used the bottom camera to shoot anything? Are the specs wrong?
I've got the 5G version with the Snapdragon 865.
UPDATE!
The bottom camera is used when zooming more than 10X!!! This makes things more complicated!
atg2x said:
UPDATE!
The bottom camera is used when zooming more than 10X!!! This makes things more complicated!
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Actually, the 3X camera works when there's enough light, otherwise, the main camera will be used.
atg2x said:
I discovered something strange with my S20 FE. When I open the camera and try the ultra-wide, the wide and the zoom, the last camera module is never used! I tried this by blocking the cameras with my fingers. So the middle camera is used for both the wide and zoom mode, which means that the device does not have an optical zoom camera OR the optical zoom works in a different way than I thought!
I also tried to take some pictures while covering the cameras, just to see if the viewfinder uses different cameras than the ones that are used for the actual shoot, but the result does not change (zoom photos are taken using the wide).
So here are my questions:
1) What is the bottom camera used for?
2) How is there an optical zoom if both the wide and zoom photos are taken using the same sensor?
3) Is this the same sensor/approach like in S20 which uses an 64MP sensor to shoot 3X hybrid zoom?
4) Anyone that has used the bottom camera to shoot anything? Are the specs wrong?
I've got the 5G version with the Snapdragon 865.
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1) The bottom camera is the 3X optical zoom.
2) As I mentioned above, depends how much light you have.
3) The zoom sensor of s20/s20+ is different, they don't have optical zoom , just hybrid.
4) The camera works perfectly, daylight photos, night photos with wnough light, moon photos.
In the camera app under settings there is an option to enable "Lens Package". Do you know what this is or does?
Sometimes while in Photo mode or Portrait mode, no matter what lens I choose (1x, 2x, 5x) it uses the 1x lens and I guess digitally zooms. I know this because when I tap on the info button inside Albums or directly from the camera app, the data shows 23mm aperture 1.57, 46mm aperture 1.57, 115mm aperture 1.57 for 1x, 2x, 5x. But if I switch to Pro and shoot the same 1x, 2x, 5x I get 23mm/f1.57, 50mm/f2.02 I think and 125mm/f3.4. But sometimes when using Photo/Portrait and selecting 1x, 2x, 5x it uses the proper lens. I'm just trying to understand why? Maybe with AI enabled for scene optimization it chooses the faster aperture lens and digitally zooms to allow for more light??
Any ideas or comments. Thanks!
Lens package is a shortcut to launch your camera with the selected filter/settings (e.g. Astro mode) straight from your app drawer/homescreen. You can turn it off, it will not remove those features from the camera app.
In pro mode, I believe the actual physical lens used is determined by the 4 icons used (telephoto, standard, medium telephoto, telephoto). From there you'll dial in your tweaks like aperture, shutter speed etc. Pinch zooming them in and out will digitally zoom your shot while using the selected lens. I verified this by physically covering each lens with my finger to see what lens it was using but I didn't take a shot to check the album details. Let me know if this helps
dab117 said:
Lens package is a shortcut to launch your camera with the selected filter/settings (e.g. Astro mode) straight from your app drawer/homescreen. You can turn it off, it will not remove those features from the camera app.
In pro mode, I believe the actual physical lens used is determined by the 4 icons used (telephoto, standard, medium telephoto, telephoto). From there you'll dial in your tweaks like aperture, shutter speed etc. Pinch zooming them in and out will digitally zoom your shot while using the selected lens. I verified this by physically covering each lens with my finger to see what lens it was using but I didn't take a shot to check the album details. Let me know if this helps
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Thanks for the explanation. Really enjoying the camera.
OK I can't figure out how to open the wide-angle camera and take a photo. The official Camera app doesn't have it anywhere that I can see. I'm sure it's right under my nose, but where?
Open the camera app, on top of photo mode you'll see 1X, tap on the left dot and it will go in 0.6X(Ultra wide lens), or pinch in with two fingers to change zoom, when you'll get at 0.6X zoom it will change the lens to the ultra wide one. Another way is trought pro mode, click lens on bottom right and choose UW(ultra wide)
Huh. Well I'll be damned. I never, ever would have figured that out in a million years.
On my Xiaomi 9 the wide angle lens was like a fisheye. This one is straight. Weird! OK thanks anyway, I appreciate that.
Another dumb question: how do I access the "telemacro" camera and what does it do?
In fact, is there some tutorial somewhere that walks you through all of the camera's features and how to use them? I'm looking at https://www.mi.com/global/mi-11/ and it's mentioning tons of features that I didn't even know were there. One-Click AI Cinema? Ultra Night Video? Night mode?