I've just upgraded from Pixel XL to Note8 and mostly I am very pleased, but for the very disappointing lack of proper implementation of Google Now/Assistant.
When the screen is off, I say OK Google, and the screen comes on ready for my command. Then I ask something and I get "Can't reach Google at the moment." This is absolute nonsense. I am sitting at my desk, 1m from my fibre optic router and I get 60mb download speeds. I am also connected to 4g from my desk, and if I run any app using the net, it works fine. I always get my emails, WhatsApp, Duo, Allo etc... so no problem there.
Other variations, things that sometimes happen:
1/ "OK Google" with screen off - the phone makes it's listening sound, but the screen stays off, then a minute later when I switch the screen on manually, I get the answer to my question!
2/ "OK Google" with screen off - the phone makes two sounds, the listening one then the cancelling one almost simultaneously
3/ "OK Google" with screen of - no response at all.
Anyone know what is going on here?
Thanks,
Mark.
fredphoesh said:
I've just upgraded from Pixel XL to Note8 and mostly I am very pleased, but for the very disappointing lack of proper implementation of Google Now/Assistant.
When the screen is off, I say OK Google, and the screen comes on ready for my command. Then I ask something and I get "Can't reach Google at the moment." This is absolute nonsense. I am sitting at my desk, 1m from my fibre optic router and I get 60mb download speeds. I am also connected to 4g from my desk, and if I run any app using the net, it works fine. I always get my emails, WhatsApp, Duo, Allo etc... so no problem there.
Other variations, things that sometimes happen:
1/ "OK Google" with screen off - the phone makes it's listening sound, but the screen stays off, then a minute later when I switch the screen on manually, I get the answer to my question!
2/ "OK Google" with screen off - the phone makes two sounds, the listening one then the cancelling one almost simultaneously
3/ "OK Google" with screen of - no response at all.
Anyone know what is going on here?
Thanks,
Mark.
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they broke ok google about a year ago, very sad.
SOLUTION!
Hello again all.
After much searching, I tired something suggested back in 2015 by someone... an obvious suggestion, but not something EE tech support or Samsung had suggested.
Go to Settings>Apps>Google
Then go to Storage
Clear Cache
Clear Data
Reboot.
The suggestion was to try force close Google app, but that would not work, I tried a few times, but then just cleared Cache and Data, rebooted and it works perfectly, just like my Pixel XL
Woo hoo!!
Mark.
fredphoesh said:
Hello again all.
After much searching, I tired something suggested back in 2015 by someone... an obvious suggestion, but not something EE tech support or Samsung had suggested.
Go to Settings>Apps>Google
Then go to Storage
Clear Cache
Clear Data
Reboot.
The suggestion was to try force close Google app, but that would not work, I tried a few times, but then just cleared Cache and Data, rebooted and it works perfectly, just like my Pixel XL
Woo hoo!!
Mark.
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This doesn't work for me. Even after clearing cache and data, rebooting, starting Assistant and running through the setup again, I get the same behavior with the screen off, a message that says "Can't reach Google at the moment."
I had this problem, disabled Bixby, works properly now.
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Liface said:
This doesn't work for me. Even after clearing cache and data, rebooting, starting Assistant and running through the setup again, I get the same behavior with the screen off, a message that says "Can't reach Google at the moment."
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Check that your battery saving modes are not killing the Google app from running in the background. This is the most likely scenario, that the app isn't running at all.
Mine get borked every time I toggle between power saving modes. I like to use Extreme power saver for overnight and Medium mode at work.
Medium mode straight up breaks OK Google. Not sure if this is by design or a bug, but it just will not hear me.
Coming out of either mode (and extreme is the worst) and neither "Hi Bixby" or "OK Google" work until I do another full reboot. Sometimes I have to reboot then go back into Google voice setting to switch the option back on manually. If I try to do this before the reboot the option is greyed out and I can't move it. Sometimes just the reboot is enough.
It's random as hell and extremely annoying. I have submitted the bug to Samsung via the feature in the Samsung Members app, but that was over two weeks ago and has seen no response.
Interesting post. My wife's OK Google voice doesn't work but mine does. Both USA T MO version. With works I'm referring to having the Google widget on home screen and saying the sentence OK Google. Mine responds and hers doesn't. With screen ON.
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Check that your battery saving modes are not killing the Google app from running in the background. This is the most likely scenario, that the app isn't running at all.
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That's not it, I rarely use battery saving mode and this happens 100% of the time.
Ok google for me just does not work.
Anyone get a fix for this?
"Ok Google" works when screen is on, but if I say it while the screen is off, it makes the noise and I get edge lighting indicating it's listening, however it doesn't respond and when I manually turn on the screen assistant is open saying "can't reach Google at the moment."
Power saving mode is off, tried disabling Bixby, clearing cache, nothing.
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clearing cache, nothing.
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so clearing cache of Google app and rebooting did not help at all?
bizarre, that fixed it for me...
I have a UK version.
I'd phone Samsung!
I'm frustrated too because I can't figure out how to use it while in power saving mode. I thought I added it correctly in the optimized battery usage apps (disabled google, ok google enrollment and voice assitant there). I can't see it as an option to select under unmonitored apps. Any idea what I'm missing?
Thanks for any help
This is strange to hear. Mine has worked flawlessly, as good as my pixel XL. Screen off and locked or not. I say ok Google, phone unlocks, and then I ask it whatever. Only thing ive done is disabled bixby by way of BK disabler.
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May be coincidental but I have not the slightest problem, and yeah, I uninstalled the Bixter. One thing I have read somewhere or other is that the OK Goog command is also subject to the level you set for Bix. In other words with sensitivity turned down for Bix it's also turned down for Goog. I never tested that one but might be worth looking at...
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they broke ok google about a year ago, very sad.
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So two things I wanted to mention the first one was my old phone case actually covered one of the microphone holes. Meaning the cut-out wasn't there so I used a drill and made a hole and it fixed part of the problem.
I have to be honest with you the Note 8 solved all the OK Google problems that I was having the past. For example the lockscreen didn't used to work and it works now I mean it was really a piece of trash with my Galaxy S7 Edge and now I can't imagine living without it.
Having problems like the first post where google assistant/ok google is non responsive all around. I've noticed that if I clear cache and data it falls back to just "ok google" and it work all the time. If I activate the google assitant with ok google it fails immediately. Who can fix this?
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Is anyone experiencing their phone waking up and waiting for you to ask it something? It's happened just sitting on the counter, my pocket or streaming music/podcasts. It happens at least one or more times a day, I tried retraining it for my voice a few times but still happens.
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Is anyone experiencing their phone waking up and waiting for you to ask it something? It's happened just sitting on the counter, my pocket or streaming music/podcasts. It happens at least one or more times a day, I tried retraining it for my voice a few times but still happens.
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Go retrain it once more in a completely silent room. You should be able to hear nothing except air moving (fan, a/c, etc.). Then report back.
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Is anyone experiencing their phone waking up and waiting for you to ask it something? It's happened just sitting on the counter, my pocket or streaming music/podcasts. It happens at least one or more times a day, I tried retraining it for my voice a few times but still happens.
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Biggest thing is keep it at arm's length. Like really, extend your arm to the fullest, and then speak normally. Try it.
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Go retrain it once more in a completely silent room. You should be able to hear nothing except air moving (fan, a/c, etc.). Then report back.
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Biggest thing is keep it at arm's length. Like really, extend your arm to the fullest, and then speak normally. Try it.
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The last time I walked out to my garage to be away from any noise, I'll try again today and make sure I hold it at arm's length(tried that on initial setup)
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The last time I walked out to my garage to be away from any noise, I'll try again today and make sure I hold it at arm's length(tried that on initial setup)
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Good luck! I had the same issue as you in the beginning. I uninstalled updates and reinstalled to try to make sure previous cache and settings were cleared and re-trained at arms length and now it works pretty well!
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The last time I walked out to my garage to be away from any noise, I'll try again today and make sure I hold it at arm's length(tried that on initial setup)
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also, make sure you use the same pitch and cadence when saying it. If i want the phone to pick up my voice easier, i can say ok google now when training it in slightly different ways. But then my phone also comes on and thinks im saying it when no one has said anything close to ok google now. If you make sure everything sounds the exact same when saying it, i didn't run into any problems. But i can't wake the phone up when i first wake up in the morning lol. I always try but i apparently sound like death whenever i first wake up.
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also, make sure you use the same pitch and cadence when saying it. If i want the phone to pick up my voice easier, i can say ok google now when training it in slightly different ways. But then my phone also comes on and thinks im saying it when no one has said anything close to ok google now. If you make sure everything sounds the exact same when saying it, i didn't run into any problems. But i can't wake the phone up when i first wake up in the morning lol. I always try but i apparently sound like death whenever i first wake up.
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I agree, try using the same voice for all three samples. I know that early on people were suggesting you say it with slightly different speed etc but I have found it is best to try to say it the same all three times and let the software in the Moto X handle slightly variations automatically.
Mine wakes up all day sitting on my desk at work. I do talk about Google a lot, but I never say my phrase. It's funny some of the stuff I see it type...
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This is an interesting thread for me. I had the Note 3 (hi galaxy) and Nexus 5 (ok google). Both of them would think I was talking to them when I wasn't, and I have almost the opposite problem with the Moto X. I have a hard time to get it to listen. I re-trained, re-trained, re-trained.. My wife's phone works flawlessly. I do love that we train our voices because she uses here touchless control all the time right next to me and my phone has yet to mistake mine for hers.
Maybe I need shorter arms.
OK quick update, I uninstalled the Touchless Control update and retrained my Moto X again in my garage this morning. It's been about 7 hours and it hasn't once yet turned itself on. I streamed music, have been in congested areas with people, a business meeting and it's working perfectly now.
I'm going to wait for 24 hours to make sure it's still working correctly and then install the update to the app.
About ready to scream!
The touchless control on my Moto X Developer Edition is extremely sensitive. Anytime anyone talks in the office that I work in, the dang phone comes on and waits for someone to give it a command. All anyone has to do is say "OK" and it does this even when I don't want it to. I've tried retraining the phone multiple times and it doesn't seem to help me out at all. I'm going to be so glad when the Lollipop update finally rolls out for this phone so I can get retrain this with a different launch phrase that will not be so easy to trigger on my phone. In the meantime, has anyone been able to get the sensitivity adjusted on this phone? If so, how? I'm thinking of going to Cyanogenmod 12.1 until Lollipop rolls out for the XT1060,
Any help that I can get on this would be greatly appreciated.
Cindy
Just manually flashed the Android Wear 2.0 on my LG watch urbane at first it was slow and laggy and but then a day or two later it straightened​ itself out and it was like butter.
And the purpose of this topic is?
Mine is still really laggy after about 4 days.
Mind is unusabley lethargic.
Same here. A great smartwatch has become effectively useless since 2.0. Can't even answer calls on it anymore for cryin' out loud!
My watch was incredibly laggy and had terrible battery drain too. Today I did nothing different besides turning WiFi off and the lag is gone and the battery is similar to 1.5. (Which sucks since I used WiFi quite a bit, but at least the watch is usable.) I'm going to reenable WiFi tomorrow to see if the lag returns.
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My watch was incredibly laggy and had terrible battery drain too. Today I did nothing different besides turning WiFi off and the lag is gone and the battery is similar to 1.5. (Which sucks since I used WiFi quite a bit, but at least the watch is usable.) I'm going to reenable WiFi tomorrow to see if the lag returns.
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I just turned wifi off and the difference is night and day. Thanks, because I thought I was going to have to find a way to get 1.x back.
The UI is fluid most of the time, notifications come without delay but functionality seems to be down. I think Google has messed up Android Wear. Needs another major update imo.
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The UI is fluid most of the time, notifications come without delay but functionality seems to be down. I think Google has messed up Android Wear. Needs another major update imo.
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Weird that it's seemingly such a randomly different experience for each user. My UI is laggy as hell, and the notifications only seem to show when they want to! It does vibrate when receiving them but either shows nothing (leaving me to swipe up to see what it is) or auto-pops up and takes up my whole​ watch face! Yet if I receive a phonecall, I'm lucky if my watch acknowledges it at all! Maybe, in 2 out of 10 tries?!
... Which leads me into completely agreeing with the downturn in functionality. On the couple of occasions my watch had picked up that I'm receiving a call, it only gives me the option to hang up! (Making my paid for Wear Speaker app effectively useless.) No way to answer from the watch at all. Same goes for notifications. Email for example, I can delete, archive or reply (all on the watch only) but I can't just tap to open it on my phone like I used to be able to! YouTube video subscription notifications are just that... Notifications! As the only option is to add to the watch later list. No option to open on the phone. Nothing!
Basically, it's great that they've added functionality that enables you to use the watch without the phone... But not at the expense of cutting out the phone completely! It still needs the phone to function fully, and is STILL only a companion product to go with a phone! I seriously don't understand how they've managed to screw this up so badly even after all the delays??! ?
It is weird because enough people report your experience for it to be just in your head. My was slow for a few hours but then sped up and is nice and at least as fluid as 1.5.
I did reboot and that didn't help. Factory reset made a huge difference.
Any ideas how to downgrade? My watch is practically usless... I hate the new update they've removed every single thing that made this watch remotely usefull
Yeah this update sucks on the urbane, everything takes much longer and isn't smooth... Good timing for me since I'm getting back into shape I bought a Fitbit charge 2 and will sell the urbane if it's worth anything.. I would like the Movado Wear watch but I'll make sure it's also not underpowered before purchase..
Thanks Google!
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How can I install an apk in the watch? Untill now installing it on the phone was enough, but with 2.0 release it seems that you can only install programs with the play store installed on the watch. I suppose with adb I will able to install apks but does anyone know an easier method?
Thanks
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How can I install an apk in the watch? Untill now installing it on the phone was enough, but with 2.0 release it seems that you can only install programs with the play store installed on the watch. I suppose with adb I will able to install apks but does anyone know an easier method?
Thanks
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In the settings on the watch there is an option for something like 'apps on phone' where you can select which apps you want to be installed from the phone instead of automatically like in 1.5. It may be an option in the Play store on the watch. I don't have 2.0 yet, waiting for my Urbane 2nd Edition update, but I've read about it.
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In the settings on the watch there is an option for something like 'apps on phone' where you can select which apps you want to be installed from the phone instead of automatically like in 1.5. It may be an option in the Play store on the watch. I don't have 2.0 yet, waiting for my Urbane 2nd Edition update, but I've read about it.
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Exactly!!! You can find an option in the watch Play Store called apps on phone where you can download into the watch the apps you need.
Thank you very much!!
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Used to be able to press the button twice and turn the screen off too
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Used to be able to press the button twice and turn the screen off too
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Yeah, that option is missing now. Currently swiping down, tapping the sun symbol and then the watch-sysbol in the middle below seems to be the only way.
But at least after I did a factory reset of the watch yesterday and paired it again with my LG V10 the watch runs much smoother than before. Truth be told I have not installed all applications yet I was running on the Urbane before (like Watchmaker for example) but I will install one after another and check if the lags I had before reappear.
Mine had AW 1.1 out of the box. Upgraded to 2.0 and it was unusably laggy. Even tilt-to-wake was very delayed. "OK Google" would take over 10 seconds for assistant to come up.
My watch too has become barely useable. Google assistant can sometimes take upwards of 20 seconds to load. And there is a huge delay on my notifications, I don't even receive notifications for calls. Android wear 2.0 has definitely ruined my watch, which is sad because I love using assistant on my phone to control my Philips hue lights.
Did anyone contact LG or Google about this problem? Android Wear 2 made my device useless after just 1,5 years. That's unacceptable!
So I got the upgrade but now I am unable to use the voice command Ok Google from watch face as before. I can only get it working by holding power button and even then it seems just laggy.
Anyone else having this issue activating it by voice?
Thanks!
Having that same issue. Not only does not "Ok Google" work, even after enabling it in the watch's settings, even when pressing down the crown, the whole thing is extremely slow. Furthermore, for sending a message, the "Ok" doesn't time out after a couple of seconds in order to send the message automatically. It requires me to tap the screen.
All in all, its looking more like a downgrade for me. The whole system feels sluggish and incoherent from a usability standpoint of view.
Edit: Didn't factory reset the watch after update
I have an another problem. Google Assistant isn't launched in Czechia yet and there isn't Google Now in Android Wear 2. So, I lost any speech control.
I've too had issues with "OK Google" after Android Wear 2.0 install. I did get it sort of working after a device reset and reconnect to my phone. (Samsung Note 5). Its slow!! and now for sending text messages you have to confirm with a tap. All in all the functionality went down....
Anyone know how to revert back to the old rom?
Mr.Caution said:
I've too had issues with "OK Google" after Android Wear 2.0 install. I did get it sort of working after a device reset and reconnect to my phone. (Samsung Note 5). Its slow!! and now for sending text messages you have to confirm with a tap. All in all the functionality went down....
Anyone know how to revert back to the old rom?
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So another issue is that even after going to the stupid settings where you actually have to enable Ok Google from any screen on your watch, it STILL wont work. I can only get it to work by using the power button which has a huge delay and then only when I am connected on Wifi. For some reason it no longer works when on my normal cellphone connection.
The phone is super laggy, battery dies fast...its a MESS.
Basically my watch is useless now for all the things I need it to do daily
Mine only works if i go and disable Bluetooth and enable WiFi else it complains it can't contact Google. Play store is the same too. Slow lagging assistant is not good especially sending txts with no auto send
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Same issue here. "OK Google" is the most important feature...
You need to give permissions for the OK Google to work. Didn't notice about it until I read this thread (I think most particularly Phone access)
shaolin95 said:
So I got the upgrade but now I am unable to use the voice command Ok Google from watch face as before. I can only get it working by holding power button and even then it seems just laggy.
Anyone else having this issue activating it by voice?
Thanks!
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Yes , it is the same on my watch - it is laggy ! I am looking for a way to downgrade back to old android wear.
venzislav said:
Yes , it is the same on my watch - it is laggy ! I am looking for a way to downgrade back to old android wear.
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I just got the ROM from this post and used the flash steps he listed and it worked fine.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71823043&postcount=3
shaolin95 said:
I just got the ROM from this post and used the flash steps he listed and it worked fine.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71823043&postcount=3
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Is it possible after downgrade to stop watch from upgrading again to 2.0 ?
venzislav said:
Is it possible after downgrade to stop watch from upgrading again to 2.0 ?
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I want to find out as its annoying to see the upgrade message over and over
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I want to find out as its annoying to see the upgrade message over and over
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Pfff this 2.0 is a big s**t !!!
Doesn't lag on mine using the 2 core or 4 core kernel
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Doesn't lag on mine using the 2 core or 4 core kernel
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Does OK Google work with voice commands and when not connected to Wifi???
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Does OK Google work with voice commands and when not connected to Wifi???
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Yup mine works perfectly without wifi (have been testing it outdoors since 2 days ago). Fix is to go to apps, system apps, google, permissions, enable permission to phone (maybe others too since IDGAF and ticked all)
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Yup mine works perfectly without wifi (have been testing it outdoors since 2 days ago). Fix is to go to apps, system apps, google, permissions, enable permission to phone (maybe others too since IDGAF and ticked all)
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Would you look at that! It works but WTH is google making it so complicated now for users? Most people dont hang around XDA to know these things. Like for instance apps now need to be downloaded on the phone as its not autmotically done, etc.
Really weird approach.
Thanks for the tip!
After a factory reset and being extremely patient, I was able to get Ok google to work. You have to go to the store on the app and update all of the apps and then enable, OK google in the settings. Problem is the response time is horrible. I'm going to stick with 2.0 and hope that they roll out updates to make it faster.
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After a factory reset and being extremely patient, I was able to get Ok google to work. You have to go to the store on the app and update all of the apps and then enable, OK google in the settings. Problem is the response time is horrible. I'm going to stick with 2.0 and hope that they roll out updates to make it faster.
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Responses time is horrible on the initial due to it running on single core at lower clock speeds and on conservative core governor.
Therefore you'll have to give it sometime for it to settle down or if you can't deal with it, you'll have to unlock the bootloader and flash in the dual or quad core enabled kernel file
Running in quad core kernel, battery life seems decent and response real snappy
Well that's just stupid because it worked fine on the previous android wear build. This is dumb on LG's part.
Curious to see if anyone else is having success with using their voice to start commands on this watch. I have the "OK Google" recognition turned on. However, it never responds. If I restart the device, then it will recognize the command and proceed as normal.
All other voice prompts work as normal (after touching the screen of course). Not sure if I need to enable another setting.
thanks!
I just got this watch and had a similar issue. It seemed to work ok with one account on the watch. If I put my work account on it stopped working. It was set to the correct account etc. I reset 4 times, and each time the second account would mess it up. Eventually I discovered that there was an app update to androidwear on the watch that happened in the back ground that may actually be the culprit (discovered by some trials). I've only had the watch 3 days ago I'm still working on it. Last night when I went to bed, it was working. We'll see this morning. Also found out that needed to say "OK Google" slower. This is my 4th search watch and most finicky for sure!
i think I just found the answer: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/1...-android-wear-fix-smartwatchs-stuttering-lag/
to summarize, disable the ok google detection, and the watch speeds up dramatically. i can confirm this. but I really did not want to lose the ok google feature. but I read (and tested) that my long-pressing on the big button, google assistant pops up. this is an acceptable alternative for me.
hope this helps others.
When I was on Ver 2.0, "Ok Google" seldom worked. I gave up on it working.
I have reverted back to Ver 1.5 about a month ago and now, "Ok Google" works every time and very quickly.
My phone randomly talks something about the time, I'm not getting what she saying (woman voice).
Talkback option is off, I checked that one.
What is this, this is so annoying and creepy.
This is not the first bug, since I bought this phone.
Anyone can help me?
Something put into clock settings?
I found this similar problem, I have exactly the same:
"A couple days ago I started hearing a womans voice at random times, like I had butt dialed someone, but I could Identify where it was coming from. Then while I was scrolling on my phone I hear something something "time". Finally in the middle of the night when everything else was quiet I hear it clear as a bell. A robotic female voice saying "it is time". No notification. No background apps running. I've done a few things to check those things and can't find anything. It is slightly annoying. But more so, creepy AF. Any help would be appreciated."
It's Big Brother sending you subliminal messages
Don't see what it could be other than a notification related thing...something you already forgot that you enabled. There are SO many settings, I doubt I could bring my phone to the same exact config after a factory default.
Try using the notification history feature to track this ghost down.
This sounds like an accessibility setting turned on to me
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This sounds like an accessibility setting turned on to me
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Ah, yes. That must be it. Good thinking.
I'm betting that you will find the culprit in Bixby Routines. It's under Advanced features.
your question is your phone talks about time, for that u will have to search on google ..
I tried everything, but couldn't helped. I did a factory reset. I always hate to do that, because It takes to much time to put back everything and set up, but at least it helped.
Thanks to everyone.