Hi guys,
This is all about developing the Focus S, since we are on our own on this one I thought id start the ball moving but it would be great if others can help, my first target is to try and download as much of the device as possible
Can I promise anything at all? nope
Have I achieved anything yet? well id say 1 step above doing nothing at all, if you can call that progress then yes, there is progress
Is it even possible to do anything? i dunno
Could i brick my device? possibly, i honestly don't know
in short, this is me blindly wondering in the dark with absolutely no direction what so ever!
So what have i done, well, i managed to get the Focus S talking to Qualcomms diagnostic utility, QPST and RevSkills CDMA Workshop
I cant get QXDM to install on Win 8 x64 and im not sure we need that one anyway
it is possible to edit stuff on the phone at a very low level, NOT OS level, it should be possible to download the various images on the phone, but ive yet to have any luck with that, it keeps coming up with "Arm9 fatal error"
ive been able to download and backup various phone settings but this is still outside of the OS#
I can play about with the EFS but there are several folders that i cant get in to yet
So far,both the samsung download mode and the ARM9 (?) download mode IS visible and installes as a com port, but there is no response on that port, i can only get a response within windows when i enable USB diag mode....
i decided not to link to the various tools ive mentioned here, i dont know the legalities of it all so use google, they are all easy to find.
Samsung studio 3 drivers
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...813082717640_Samsung_USB_Driver_Installer.exe
Install it with compability for windows vista.
Samsung Focus info (note that most of this doesn't work, its for the older focus but some does)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Focus
Handy Diagnostic codes
*#7284# - USB Path control (select to change how your phone communicates with your computer)
*#197328640# - The Root Menu (seriously, don't get too cocky, you could bugger up your device)
Samsung USB Download mode
Turn off Device
hold the camera button and the Volume UP
Whilst holding those two push and hold the power button until it vibrates
Samsung Device Hard reset
Turn off Device
hold the camera button and the Volume Down
Whilst holding those two push and hold the power button until it vibrates
Follow on screen instructions
Enable Diagnostic mode and Connect to QPST or other GSM/CDMA software
Download and install the Samsung drivers above
open the diagnostic app and dial code *#7284#
Select Modem,USB Diag
Reboot
When you plug the phone in you should see a COM port install and appear in device manager
load QPST configuration
Click on the Ports Tab then Click add new port
Select your Phone com port
Click OK then select the phone from the list, hit enable
Click on start clients then you can play with a bunch of options
Please note that this is a serious piece of kit, its designed for low level editing, what I mean by that is that it couldn't care less about if it works or not after you finish playing, a couple of other software options to play with are CDMA tools and RevTools both have the potential to paperweight your phone!
NOTE: Zune will not connect and whilst connected to PC you may lose all GSM connectivity whilst connected as well.
Enable FTM (Factory Test Mode)
open Diagnostic app and dial code*#197328640#
select 6 (common)
Select 1 (FTM)
Select 1 (on)
Click return save (it doesn't always persist unless you do)
Hit Back until you back to the main menu then win key to Windows
REBOOT to enable
NOTE: You will lose ability to connect to GSM with this enabled, a reboot is required to enable it after its set and to deactivate it, ive not found a noticeable difference with this on
If im not wrong, WP uses arm v7.
Good luck with this, it would be nice to see a 7.8 ROM on this device before I go buy the ATIV.
tayfelix said:
If im not wrong, WP uses arm v7.
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yes your right, but that's what it says, it reboots in to some sort of QC download mode, QPST is the waiting for it to talk to it which it doesn't do, it just sits there with this error message.
I have been able to backup the Important bits that make the phone work, and I have access to the EFS, I can change all sorts at a very low level but any time I try and download some of the various "partitions" it reboots to this special download mode. because we don't have any form of ROM I thought the first priority should be to see if we can make a backup of it, outside of MS encrypted zune backup I mean
the software is old so perhaps it doenst work with newer hardware, but then it does with android soooo.....
LudoGris said:
Good luck with this, it would be nice to see a 7.8 ROM on this device before I go buy the ATIV.
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don't hold your breath, I still don't really know what im doing, consider this playing.....in a mine field
Hmmm. If this does work. Will it ever work on focus flash/ omnia w? Cuz it got the same spec except different screen sizes
tayfelix said:
Hmmm. If this does work. Will it ever work on focus flash/ omnia w? Cuz it got the same spec except different screen sizes
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That depends what you mean by work, will the focus flash connect to various diagnostic tools? yes probably, will it be possible to download the ROM? maybe, beyond that I haven't got a clue
starting to run out of ideas, I think either the download mode via QPST is disabled or, and more likely, the driver isn't correct, when it enters the arm9 fatal error screen it is still using same driver, the same driver samsungs download mode uses, but both won't talk to QPST unless I enable diagnostic mode within windows phone OS, the prob with that is that it won't then allow access to the file systemSent from my fake Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
It also have diagnostic tools .
tayfelix said:
It also have diagnostic tools .
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be careful, you can bugger up your device!i will write a more detailed guide later
First things first, you will need to make sure you have the samsung diagnostic tool install
bring up the phone dialer and dial
##634#
you will now see a diagnostic app on your app list, run it and type in
*#7284#that will enable you to change the USB connection mode,select
Modem USB diag
OPTIONAL - Typing in the following code will bring up the diagnostic root menu
#197328640#you can find a full list Here Many of the codes on that list just run functions found in the root menu
Bare in mind that pissing around with some of the things in there will bring about a swift crappy end to your day!
plugging in your your phone at this point will install a Samsung COM driver
next download and install QPST on your computer, run the config part of that, it will ask you to select your phone, you will need to add a com port, it should then list your phone to connect to it
you can then edit the EFS, service/phone settings, download settings
you will need to know your SPC number, mine was already 0000000, there are ways of working out your number if leaving it all at zeros doesnt work.
use the service editor to read the phone settings, it will ask for your SPC, once loaded,you can save those settings to a file, very important ifyou screw something up
Cool, I will try it when I'm free. Hmm what's UR focus s BOOTLOADER, firmware version and diagnostic version ?
tayfelix said:
Cool, I will try it when I'm free. Hmm what's UR focus s BOOTLOADER, firmware version and diagnostic version ?
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as reported in windows phone about screen, note that the Focus S and Omnia 7, has a firmware update that will stop any interop unlocking, i had it installed but it killed my battery life and my phone reception so i took it off, id suspect the bootldt vs will be different between devices, even though they were released at the same time
bootldr 6.5.16.0
firmware 2103.11.10.1 (not the Samsung update that breaks interop)
diagnostic 0923 (not the Samsung update that breaks interop)
Er it's focus, focus s , focus flash/omnia w and omnia 7 that are affected by the freakin update. This is my version from the about info
Firmware: 2424.12.04.1
Bootloader: 6.4.4.0
Diagnostic : 1109
Note : I cant interlop unlock my omnia as Samsung fixed the exploit in the new firmware version
How did u remove the firmware ?
tayfelix said:
Er it's focus, focus s , focus flash/omnia w and omnia 7 that are affected by the freakin update. This is my version from the about info
Firmware: 2424.12.04.1
Bootloader: 6.4.4.0
Diagnostic : 1109
Note : I cant interlop unlock my omnia as Samsung fixed the exploit in the new firmware version
How did u remove the firmware ?
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I made a backup before I installed it
I think we can get an xap of my version of the diagnostic tools, but the firmware update also changes drivers an a few other things, those cant be changed, if we could send custom cabs to the device we are laughing, but we cant, to cab send requires the cab to be signed, and the device would need to have that certificate, which cant be put on whilst its all in use
:S don't think so as diagnostic tool is based on firmware I think.
tayfelix said:
:S don't think so as diagnostic tool is based on firmware I think.
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try this, remove your existing diagnostic app and install this xap
How can u install a xap..
Is your device still unlocked? The Samsung update will stop you applying the unlock but if you had it already installed it will still work, if it is unlocked then use an cap deployed, my link to the wee guide details how to do it, if it's interop unlocked but you can't install an xap deplorer the use the xap deplorer included with the WP SDK
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
it's ok. I will just wait for someone to be able to unlock the device as I already got the exploit for interlop unlock patched
tayfelix said:
it's ok. I will just wait for someone to be able to unlock the device as I already got the exploit for interlop unlock patched
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well there isn't anyone working on unlocking it as far as I know, so if its going to happen then we need to do it ourselves.
Ive exhausted just about every avenue I can think of getting access to the device, ive been able to dump parts of the RAM but still not the ROM,
EFS is writable but I cant get in to the secure folders. The only way I can think of for getting the ROM is to get it working in one of the two download modes, both will not talk to anything tho, perhaps if I had the commands to copy the ROM I could just send them in the hope it will reply but it sure as hell isn't saying anything to the commands I have sent.
Hmmm. Must there be a exploit? Zzz there's are very little/no hackers having a focus s or a focus flash/omnia w. they all have 1st gen devices I think.
Hi - I'm currently on 7.5 and I've unlocked using Chevronwp7 and have 'internet sharing' working. I want to upgrade to 7.8 but I do not want to loose my unlock and 'internet sharing'. I believe if I use the Samsung 7.8 I will screw myself - so if I do the following I'll get the Microsoft 7.8 and all should work? Is my understanding correct? Here is where I planned on getting 7.8:
http://www.wpcentral.com/forcing-windows-phone-78-update-camera-button-not-required-patience
thx
GregCra said:
Hi - I'm currently on 7.5 and I've unlocked using Chevronwp7 and have 'internet sharing' working. I want to upgrade to 7.8 but I do not want to loose my unlock and 'internet sharing'. I believe if I use the Samsung 7.8 I will screw myself - so if I do the following I'll get the Microsoft 7.8 and all should work? Is my understanding correct? Here is where I planned on getting 7.8:
http://www.wpcentral.com/forcing-windows-phone-78-update-camera-button-not-required-patience
thx
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there is only the MS 7.8, Samsung have a firmware that will firstly clear all your ICS settings, and secondly disable the ability to install the dev unlock. however, ICS can be enabled, and so long as your unlocked BEFORE applying the Samsung firmware you can remain unlocked. you can also search the WP7 forum for a newer solution that should help you no matter what you do
easy way to 7.8
Thanks - today I used the process outlined here to get to 7.8:
http://www.windowsphonehacker.com/articles/want_windows_phone_7.8_now_try_this_easy_tool-01-31-13
This tool saved me a lot of time as I was way back on 8107. My unlock and working ICS were still fine and I was on 7.8
Also, on my wife's focus s.. I unlocked it today using the process listed here (and then turned on ICS):
http://www.wp7roottools.com/index.php/downloads
Were you able to get internet sharing to work afterwards? I can't seen to get it to work.
The Grand Pooh-Bah said:
Were you able to get internet sharing to work afterwards? I can't seen to get it to work.
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root tools or winTT will work, you just need to get them installed and functional
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root tools or winTT will work, you just need to get them installed and functional
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I have WP7 Root Tools installed - Tried that tweak to enable internet sharing
I just installed winTT and tried that enable internet sharing tweak and got the same message
Connection not Shared
There's no cellular data connection to
share right now. Check your cellular
settings and signal, and try again.
The Grand Pooh-Bah said:
I have WP7 Root Tools installed - Tried that tweak to enable internet sharing
I just installed winTT and tried that enable internet sharing tweak and got the same message
Connection not Shared
There's no cellular data connection to
share right now. Check your cellular
settings and signal, and try again.
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Hmm, perhaps try changing APN settings to something random, restart, then set them back
Sent from my Arc using xda app-developers app
dazza9075 said:
Hmm, perhaps try changing APN settings to something random, restart, then set them back
Sent from my Arc using xda app-developers app
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Just got a brand new Focus S in the mail today.
Plugged it into the computer. Let it do the updates. Went through the process of the 2nd generation Interop Unlock successfully. Used the tweak in WP7 Root Tools to enable internet sharing and got the same message.
The new Focus S
OS Version 7.10.8773.98
Firmware 2103.11.10.1
Hi,
I am looking for a tablet for HAM radio / Shortwave listeners purposes.
One thing I need is a working OTG interface for attaching USB devices
to that tablet.
I read different/contradictionary informations about whether OTG works
with this tablet I am not sure, whether the tablets, they were talking about
were exactly the one I am on the way to buy.
So:
Does OTG work on a ASUS memopad 7 (ME176CX-1E041A) w/ Android 4.4 ?
And:
I read that Lollipop will install UEFI and will lock me out then, since there is
no rooting method....true?
Thank you very much for any help in advance!
Best regards,
tuxic
tuxic001 said:
Hi,
I am looking for a tablet for HAM radio / Shortwave listeners purposes.
One thing I need is a working OTG interface for attaching USB devices
to that tablet.
I read different/contradictionary informations about whether OTG works
with this tablet I am not sure, whether the tablets, they were talking about
were exactly the one I am on the way to buy.
So:
Does OTG work on a ASUS memopad 7 (ME176CX-1E041A) w/ Android 4.4 ?
And:
I read that Lollipop will install UEFI and will lock me out then, since there is
no rooting method....true?
Thank you very much for any help in advance!
Best regards,
tuxic
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The rooting method for lollipop is only less noob-friendly, but for future I recommend you updating to lollipop. For rooting whether kitkat or lollipop (the better but a bit harder way), take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096
And OTG works quite good, even thumb drives work natively without some root using workaround.
Mis012 said:
The rooting method for lollipop is only less noob-friendly, but for future I recommend you updating to lollipop. For rooting whether kitkat or lollipop (the better but a bit harder way), take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096
And OTG works quite good, even thumb drives work natively without some root using workaround.
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Hi Mis012,
thanks a lot for help me to start with all the things.
I want absolutely sure to understand what I am reading in all that tutorials and postings. Are there any "meta"-tutorials, which explain for example all these acronyms and abbreviations like
adb,odin,cvm,twpr,fastboot and a lot more? I want to learn, but what if I even dont understand the abbreviations of the tutorials and howtos? Lost?
Next:
I took a look at the rooting tutorial you linked (THX!) and didnt find my device in the list of supported devices? Out of luck? Or outdated informations? If outdated, how can I be sure, that
it still works?
(This is NO critism in any way, but I dont want "Just another brick in the wall"...
In this forum (or was it androidsforums? dont remember) I read postings of quite a few people who have created paper weights by upgrading to vanilla lollipop...
What are the benefits in comparision to kitkat to take the risk of an update?
Will lollipop fix the battery drain problem in standby of this nice device?
Can I attach a USBtoEthernet device to the usb port an get a net connection instead of using Wifi?
By the way: My ASUS mempad 7 is on the way to me....
Sorry for the bunch of question ... I am driven by a mix of curiosity and anxity...
Best regards and thank you very much for helping a newbie to get the road to
gain knowledge to help others in turn...
tuxic
tuxic001 said:
Hi Mis012,
thanks a lot for help me to start with all the things.
I want absolutely sure to understand what I am reading in all that tutorials and postings. Are there any "meta"-tutorials, which explain for example all these acronyms and abbreviations like
adb,odin,cvm,twpr,fastboot and a lot more? I want to learn, but what if I even dont understand the abbreviations of the tutorials and howtos? Lost?
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adb - android debug bridge, gives you shell access to your device from computer and more. Search for Minimal ADB installer.
odin - Samsung flashing tool, has nothing to do with our tablet.
cwm - clockworkmod. custom recovery.
twrp - teamWin project recovery. has more functions, but refuses to work with our device
fastboot - something like adb, you use it for flashing partitions if you have unlocked bootloader
tuxic001 said:
Next:
I took a look at the rooting tutorial you linked (THX!) and didnt find my device in the list of supported devices? Out of luck? Or outdated informations? If outdated, how can I be sure, that
it still works?
(This is NO critism in any way, but I dont want "Just another brick in the wall"...
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It should be in the supported devices list. It's me176cx. I can say it works.
tuxic001 said:
In this forum (or was it androidsforums? dont remember) I read postings of quite a few people who have created paper weights by upgrading to vanilla lollipop...
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If you soft brick your device like me, you can just return to kitkat, or better go to store and want a rapair. I returned my to the store two days ago, hope they will give me a chance for lollipop. The update should work without problems on a new device.
tuxic001 said:
What are the benefits in comparision to kitkat to take the risk of an update?
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First of all, it is lollipop vs kitkat - you can read on internet about why lollipop is better.
The best part - UEFI. with UEFI, you can install any computer OS (Windows, linux) on this tablet.
tuxic001 said:
Will lollipop fix the battery drain problem in standby of this nice device?
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Maybe. there was some tutorial on xda how to fix it.
tuxic001 said:
Can I attach a USBtoEthernet device to the usb port an get a net connection instead of using Wifi?
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If the OS will support it. I don't know if android can support this.
tuxic001 said:
By the way: My ASUS mempad 7 is on the way to me....
Sorry for the bunch of question ... I am driven by a mix of curiosity and anxity...
Best regards and thank you very much for helping a newbie to get the road to
gain knowledge to help others in turn...
tuxic
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No problem.
DO NOT DO ANYTHING SUSPICIOUS WITH THE DEVICE UNTIL YOU GET LOLLIPOP!
Otherwise, you may end up with lollipop update not working > warranty or kitkat forever
And here are some links you should read (It' not that much of text, it only looks like that
https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/uefi-boot-how-does-that-actually-work-then/ - the autor should thank me, I recommend this article to everone here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790 - minimal ADB and fastboot (you do not need it for Temp CWM recovery, it includes it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096 - Temp CWM recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/memo-pad-7/general/asus-memo-7-me176cx-t2814046 - general thread about this tablet
http://doesn't-exist-yet.sorry/ - I will make a nice step by step guide on how to dual boot lollipop and other OS as soon as I will have my tablet back from service and I will have lollipop so I will have UEFI)
Mis012 said:
adb - android debug bridge, gives you shell access to your device from computer and more. Search for Minimal ADB installer.
odin - Samsung flashing tool, has nothing to do with our tablet.
cwm - clockworkmod. custom recovery.
twrp - teamWin project recovery. has more functions, but refuses to work with our device
fastboot - something like adb, you use it for flashing partitions if you have unlocked bootloader
It should be in the supported devices list. It's me176cx. I can say it works.
If you soft brick your device like me, you can just return to kitkat, or better go to store and want a rapair. I returned my to the store two days ago, hope they will give me a chance for lollipop. The update should work without problems on a new device.
First of all, it is lollipop vs kitkat - you can read on internet about why lollipop is better.
The best part - UEFI. with UEFI, you can install any computer OS (Windows, linux) on this tablet.
Maybe. there was some tutorial on xda how to fix it.
If the OS will support it. I don't know if android can support this.
No problem.
DO NOT DO ANYTHING SUSPICIOUS WITH THE DEVICE UNTIL YOU GET LOLLIPOP!
Otherwise, you may end up with lollipop update not working > warranty or kitkat forever
And here are some links you should read (It' not that much of text, it only looks like that
https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/uefi-boot-how-does-that-actually-work-then/ - the autor should thank me, I recommend this article to everone here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790 - minimal ADB and fastboot (you do not need it for Temp CWM recovery, it includes it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096 - Temp CWM recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/memo-pad-7/general/asus-memo-7-me176cx-t2814046 - general thread about this tablet
http://doesn't-exist-yet.sorry/ - I will make a nice step by step guide on how to dual boot lollipop and other OS as soon as I will have my tablet back from service and I will have lollipop so I will have UEFI)
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Hi Mis012,
OH WHOW! This drives my curiosity up and my anxity DOWN! A BIG THANK YOU for your patience with a newbie (I have some experience with Linux and embedded devices (Beaglebone Black, AriettaG25(both ARM) though).
AND: My ASUS ME176CX has arrieved!!! YEAH!
And...strictly following your advice I just started to do the least suspicious with it: CHARGING! hahahaha!
Question (as you might already have expected :
The first thing I want to do is to lollipop my board.
Unfortunately there are two things to consider: I have to setup WLAN for my PC (yes, I am of the "generation copper" / Gentoo LInux. This will be some effort
but no unbeatable problem.
Next is: I am living in a house with LOT OF RF noise. My shortwave receiver sounds like an lawn mower when switched on indoors (that the reason for buying a mobile
PC to go outside and still have all decoders, frequency lists and informations available).
So I do not trust any broadcasted data stream that much...especially when it comes to firmware updates (IIIIIEEEEEKKKKSS!).
Is there any way to update via good ole files from a sdcard/internal flash in a non hackish, plain and secure way?
Earphone:
There neither a users manual nor Tech Specs inside the box.
And if I will insert an earphone into the earphone jack I may burn the output drivers of the audio chip inside,
if this earphone has a too low impedance. Mine has 14 Ohms.
Question:
What is the output impedance of the audio port?
Does it support a mic on the earphone (four contacts)?
Thank you very much in advance again for helping an old child to walk in new shoes!
Hopefully I will get around the hurdles in the beginning and can start to give answers.
Best regards,
tuxic
tuxic001 said:
Hi Mis012,
OH WHOW! This drives my curiosity up and my anxity DOWN! A BIG THANK YOU for your patience with a newbie (I have some experience with Linux and embedded devices (Beaglebone Black, AriettaG25(both ARM) though).
AND: My ASUS ME176CX has arrieved!!! YEAH!
And...strictly following your advice I just started to do the least suspicious with it: CHARGING! hahahaha!
Question (as you might already have expected :
The first thing I want to do is to lollipop my board.
Unfortunately there are two things to consider: I have to setup WLAN for my PC (yes, I am of the "generation copper" / Gentoo LInux. This will be some effort
but no unbeatable problem.
Next is: I am living in a house with LOT OF RF noise. My shortwave receiver sounds like an lawn mower when switched on indoors (that the reason for buying a mobile
PC to go outside and still have all decoders, frequency lists and informations available).
So I do not trust any broadcasted data stream that much...especially when it comes to firmware updates (IIIIIEEEEEKKKKSS!).
Is there any way to update via good ole files from a sdcard/internal flash in a non hackish, plain and secure way?
Earphone:
There neither a users manual nor Tech Specs inside the box.
And if I will insert an earphone into the earphone jack I may burn the output drivers of the audio chip inside,
if this earphone has a too low impedance. Mine has 14 Ohms.
Question:
What is the output impedance of the audio port?
Does it support a mic on the earphone (four contacts)?
Thank you very much in advance again for helping an old child to walk in new shoes!
Hopefully I will get around the hurdles in the beginning and can start to give answers.
Best regards,
tuxic
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Really don't know anything anout earphones, but I think tablets have some kind of protection, the worst what can happen is you will drain your battery faster, or the sound volume might be lower. Theoreticaly.
About the update: sorry that I didn't mention it, the best what you can do is to download the lollipop firmware from asus support site for this tablet, put it on your sdcard and start it up, then there will be a notification saying somethinhg like "do you wanna update?" You will say that you want and that's it. And you can press thanks if you find my posts helpful, I will feel more like a big boss if I will have more thanks, and it pleases my heart If you need to know anything else, just say You would help us all if you could find someone interested in making cyanogenmod (12.1 would be best) for our device. Just share this link where I write how the locked bootloader can be safely ignored by replacing it with another one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/memo-pad-7/help/me176cxk013-how-cyanogen-mod-t3154917
Mis012 said:
Really don't know anything anout earphones, but I think tablets have some kind of protection, the worst what can happen is you will drain your battery faster, or the sound volume might be lower. Theoreticaly.
About the update: sorry that I didn't mention it, the best what you can do is to download the lollipop firmware from asus support site for this tablet, put it on your sdcard and start it up, then there will be a notification saying somethinhg like "do you wanna update?" You will say that you want and that's it. And you can press thanks if you find my posts helpful, I will feel more like a big boss if I will have more thanks, and it pleases my heart If you need to know anything else, just say You would help us all if you could find someone interested in making cyanogenmod (12.1 would be best) for our device. Just share this link where I write how the locked bootloader can be safely ignored by replacing it with another one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/memo-pad-7/help/me176cxk013-how-cyanogen-mod-t3154917
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THANKS PRESSED! GREAT! I didn't saw that and it is the first forum I visit, which has this feature!
And downloading an update and THAN flashing it, makes me feel a lot more comfortable...WLAN is only "somehow" here...
Here:
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=ASUS+MeMO+Pad+7+(ME176C)
I found 1 firmware item to download:
Version WW_V12.10.1.17 (OS upgradesto Android Lollipop 5.0.1)
Now I am a little confused:
"Download device software and Update SOP (From “Manual” Item)" -- what the [] is a "SOP" ? I cannot find any SOP-Manual (or whatever SOP)
"Only apply to same SKU update, Example: WW->WW, CN->CN, TW->TW." ("SKU"? "WW"? "CN"? "TW"? ???? IEEEEKKKS! All this acronyms!!!
"Userfriendly" is definetly something completly different!
I need support for the ASUS support, I think
...Since I found in my ME176CX a software revision number starting with WW and the firmware also start with WW, I think I am ok.
I still dont know, what SKU is and I didnt find any SOP.
Will it be ok to put UL-K013-WW-12.10.1.17_KK-user.zip (unpacked???) onto my SDcard (where? The root dictionary of the card?) ,
put the SDcard into my tablet, and switch the tablet on (when fully charged) and "follow the instructions" ?
Sorry if doubling questions, but I feel better when asking question a second time than buying a tablet a second time...dont like Pink Floyd
at this point of my life...
Best regards,
tuxic
tuxic001 said:
THANKS PRESSED! GREAT! I didn't saw that and it is the first forum I visit, which has this feature!
And downloading an update and THAN flashing it, makes me feel a lot more comfortable...WLAN is only "somehow" here...
Here:
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=ASUS+MeMO+Pad+7+(ME176C)
I found 1 firmware item to download:
Version WW_V12.10.1.17 (OS upgradesto Android Lollipop 5.0.1)
Now I am a little confused:
"Download device software and Update SOP (From “Manual” Item)" -- what the [] is a "SOP" ? I cannot find any SOP-Manual (or whatever SOP)
"Only apply to same SKU update, Example: WW->WW, CN->CN, TW->TW." ("SKU"? "WW"? "CN"? "TW"? ???? IEEEEKKKS! All this acronyms!!!
"Userfriendly" is definetly something completly different!
I need support for the ASUS support, I think
...Since I found in my ME176CX a software revision number starting with WW and the firmware also start with WW, I think I am ok.
I still dont know, what SKU is and I didnt find any SOP.
Will it be ok to put UL-K013-WW-12.10.1.17_KK-user.zip (unpacked???) onto my SDcard (where? The root dictionary of the card?) ,
put the SDcard into my tablet, and switch the tablet on (when fully charged) and "follow the instructions" ?
Sorry if doubling questions, but I feel better when asking question a second time than buying a tablet a second time...dont like Pink Floyd
at this point of my life...
Best regards,
tuxic
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I think that the description is some weird user-unfriendly way to describe what I said. Just do what I wrote, there should be no problem. I will stay tuned, crossed fingers for you.
Mis012 said:
I think that the description is some weird user-unfriendly way to describe what I said. Just do what I wrote, there should be no problem. I will stay tuned, crossed fingers for you.
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I did it and: I GOT LOLLIPOP! YEAH!
I find you guilty for being the source of this success!
Is there a way to check, whether the update is complete, valid in whole working?
Are there critical points to check (certain applications/functions)?
Best regards,
tuxic
tuxic001 said:
I did it and: I GOT LOLLIPOP! YEAH!
I find you guilty for being the source of this success!
Is there a way to check, whether the update is complete, valid in whole working?
Are there critical points to check (certain applications/functions)?
Best regards,
tuxic
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When you connect keyboard using OTG cable, and press F2 during startup, you should boot into UEFI. Did you encounter any problems with lollipop? Disabling "power saver" option in settings should give you smoother experiance, and solves problem with games playing slow. Anyways, I'm glad I could help. For further info, follow this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/memo-pad-7/general/asus-memo-7-me176cx-t2814046/page256
Mis012 said:
When you connect keyboard using OTG cable, and press F2 during startup, you should boot into UEFI. Did you encounter any problems with lollipop? Disabling "power saver" option in settings should give you smoother experiance, and solves problem with games playing slow. Anyways, I'm glad I could help. For further info, follow this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/memo-pad-7/general/asus-memo-7-me176cx-t2814046/page256
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Hmmm....F2 does not work for me...
I also tried the easter egg...but I got a lollipop, but no game...
Furthermore I cannot connect the ME176CX to my computer in a way that the computer recognized it as storage device...
"Software version" say "5.0" and not "5.0.1" or anything higher. The firmware I downloaded was marked as "5.0.1"
Did I really got a FULL and VALID update?
Best regards,
tuxic
tuxic001 said:
Hmmm....F2 does not work for me...
I also tried the easter egg...but I got a lollipop, but no game...
Furthermore I cannot connect the ME176CX to my computer in a way that the computer recognized it as storage device...
"Software version" say "5.0" and not "5.0.1" or anything higher. The firmware I downloaded was marked as "5.0.1"
Did I really got a FULL and VALID update?
Best regards,
tuxic
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It is 5.0.0 they have mistypen. As for the minigame, touching lollipop will change color, but holding will bring the minigame. Maybe F2 only works with powered hub, didn't try it as my tablet is still in service. Alternatively, you can try this:
1.connect usb keyboard with OTG cable
2.enter stock recovery (while powering on the tablet, hold volume down. In droidboot, select recovery using volume buttons and confirm with power button)
3.on the keyboard press and hold F2
4.select reboot to bootloader
5.on the keyboard press ENTER
steps may vary a bit, this method sounds weird to me but you can try. If it will not work, I will point you at a bit harder method.
Mis012 said:
It is 5.0.0 they have mistypen. As for the minigame, touching lollipop will change color, but holding will bring the minigame. Maybe F2 only works with powered hub, didn't try it as my tablet is still in service. Alternatively, you can try this:
1.connect usb keyboard with OTG cable
2.enter stock recovery (while powering on the tablet, hold volume down. In droidboot, select recovery using volume buttons and confirm with power button)
3.on the keyboard press and hold F2
4.select reboot to bootloader
5.on the keyboard press ENTER
steps may vary a bit, this method sounds weird to me but you can try. If it will not work, I will point you at a bit harder method.
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Hi Mis012,
Ok, got the Lollipop game (just a test, what works -- just to validate my update).
Entered droidboot as a "exercise" only (for getting used to it).
Found my serial number is 012345678012345678 (or similiar counting up).
Does that mean, that someone sold me a refurbished device as a new one? I read of this
kind of "serial number" appearing on devices, which were sent for repair...
Currently I am download&installing (Gentoo installs a wrapper, which one calls to get the whole
thing installed) android_sdk/android_studio to my Linux PC. Oh damn! THAT'S a huge
thing to download...I started 4 hours before and it still downloads (no, I /am/ generation copper,
but I use DSL ... no modem
While that process slowly but surely will fill up my Linux harddisk I was searching for a
GPS app, which DOES NOT LOG me for others, dont read my contacts, and do other, non
purpose related things AND uses openstreetmap (or better: dont use google services),
is able to do all its functions offline and is GPLed.
I testinstalled three...
All claims suspicious rights of accessing for example the microphone.
I deleted all.
Damn!
I think I have to learn A LOT MORE, before feeling halfway comfortable with this kind
of "new world order"
And as always Mis012...thank you very much for your support and patience!
Best regards,
tuxic
PS: Next I will try F2 again...
tuxic001 said:
Hi Mis012,
Ok, got the Lollipop game (just a test, what works -- just to validate my update).
Entered droidboot as a "exercise" only (for getting used to it).
Found my serial number is 012345678012345678 (or similiar counting up).
Does that mean, that someone sold me a refurbished device as a new one? I read of this
kind of "serial number" appearing on devices, which were sent for repair...
Currently I am download&installing (Gentoo installs a wrapper, which one calls to get the whole
thing installed) android_sdk/android_studio to my Linux PC. Oh damn! THAT'S a huge
thing to download...I started 4 hours before and it still downloads (no, I /am/ generation copper,
but I use DSL ... no modem
While that process slowly but surely will fill up my Linux harddisk I was searching for a
GPS app, which DOES NOT LOG me for others, dont read my contacts, and do other, non
purpose related things AND uses openstreetmap (or better: dont use google services),
is able to do all its functions offline and is GPLed.
I testinstalled three...
All claims suspicious rights of accessing for example the microphone.
I deleted all.
Damn!
I think I have to learn A LOT MORE, before feeling halfway comfortable with this kind
of "new world order"
And as always Mis012...thank you very much for your support and patience!
Best regards,
tuxic
PS: Next I will try F2 again...
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I hope you do not install sdk only because of adb, because you can get adb separetely and it has less the 10 MB.
About GPS, it looks like this tablet cannot fix location without being cannected to wi-fi.
About the serial number, it really seems weird, but you should be able to change it to something else if you want to.
And it looks there is a new OTA, I recommend not to install it, maybe it will remove UEFI acess or something. Now, it looks like a fix for lollipop problems some people had, but a lot of them have no problems after freezing the power saver app.
Mis012 said:
I hope you do not install sdk only because of adb, because you can get adb separetely and it has less the 10 MB.
About GPS, it looks like this tablet cannot fix location without being cannected to wi-fi.
About the serial number, it really seems weird, but you should be able to change it to something else if you want to.
And it looks there is a new OTA, I recommend not to install it, maybe it will remove UEFI acess or something. Now, it looks like a fix for lollipop problems some people had, but a lot of them have no problems after freezing the power saver app.
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Hi Mis012,
No, no..(.the SDK is still downloading)...
I install the SDK cause I am curious and may (if TIME and BRAIN allows me) be I can
program something. I am on LINUX here (I mean: my PC is a GENTOO box), so often
tutorials are not that straight forward to read (and helper applications on PC side are
not running here).
GPS is only running when WIFI is connected? Holy CRAP...Google wants to be sure,
that tey are able to track """anonymously"""".
Software "problem"/"feature" which was installed with Lollipop or is it a hardware
restriction? Oh damn...one reason for buying this tablet has gone...
Next update will remove/close UEFI? Will be this the next feature, which I will loose?
But still the nice shiny glass surface will remain...(not without sarcasm... )
IF UEFI will be locked/removed...will we have a chance, to get full control over
this tablet again?
Who is checking for the sanity of this new update?
The droidboot/F2 hack does not work with my keyboard (KBtalking PURE 60).
I could reconnect my IBM model M keyboard of my PC to the tablet, but this
beauty will pull over 100mA through the USBtoPS2 converter....
Better not.
I have an USB hub here...will try that next.
Is there anything I definetly should NOT do, when booted into UEFI?
Will OTAs be available as files later or here or somewhere else?
Do you know of people having such a odd serial number AND have
a proofen new device?
Oh, why oh why one needs to check for everything these days???
Best reagards,
tuxic
tuxic001 said:
GPS is only running when WIFI is connected? Holy CRAP...Google wants to be sure,
that tey are able to track """anonymously"""".
Software "problem"/"feature" which was installed with Lollipop or is it a hardware
restriction? Oh damn...one reason for buying this tablet has gone...
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It's working fine for me without WiFi, tested it last week. I've heard some people reporting problems with the GPS, can't reproduce them personally.
tuxic001 said:
Next update will remove/close UEFI? Will be this the next feature, which I will loose?
But still the nice shiny glass surface will remain...(not without sarcasm... )
IF UEFI will be locked/removed...will we have a chance, to get full control over
this tablet again?
Who is checking for the sanity of this new update?
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I installed the update yesterday, it updated something in the BIOS or UEFI or however that it called, not completely sure if they patched that. I don't have an OTG adapter (?, the micro USB to USB adapter) yet (ordered one already) so can't say if they broke that. Will test once it has arrived.
tuxic001 said:
Will OTAs be available as files later or here or somewhere else?
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You can download the latest OTA update from the link I posted it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61926393&postcount=2587 (scroll down a bit, the URL starting with fota.asus.com has the OTA update, can't post the link directly here for some reason) and install it using the temp CWM recovery for example. Not sure if you can also simply copy it to your sdcard, never tried that. Just keep in mind, I don't know what ASUS will do with your UEFI/bootloader with this update, it's generally working fine for me though. If you've disabled power saver in the previous lollipop version there is generally no big reason to update, there were only a few minor changes (I noticed nothing)...
tuxic001 said:
Do you know of people having such a odd serial number AND have
a proofen new device?
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Just checked, I have the same serial number listed there. I don't know but I don't think it's the real serial number so I wouldn't worry about it. I've installed a few updates already and own the device for about a month already so can't tell for sure, but I'm pretty sure I wondered about this serial number already when I got the device a month ago.
tuxic001 said:
Hi Mis012,
No, no..(.the SDK is still downloading)...
I install the SDK cause I am curious and may (if TIME and BRAIN allows me) be I can
program something. I am on LINUX here (I mean: my PC is a GENTOO box), so often
tutorials are not that straight forward to read (and helper applications on PC side are
not running here).
GPS is only running when WIFI is connected? Holy CRAP...Google wants to be sure,
that tey are able to track """anonymously"""".
Software "problem"/"feature" which was installed with Lollipop or is it a hardware
restriction? Oh damn...one reason for buying this tablet has gone...
Next update will remove/close UEFI? Will be this the next feature, which I will loose?
But still the nice shiny glass surface will remain...(not without sarcasm... )
IF UEFI will be locked/removed...will we have a chance, to get full control over
this tablet again?
Who is checking for the sanity of this new update?
The droidboot/F2 hack does not work with my keyboard (KBtalking PURE 60).
I could reconnect my IBM model M keyboard of my PC to the tablet, but this
beauty will pull over 100mA through the USBtoPS2 converter....
Better not.
I have an USB hub here...will try that next.
Is there anything I definetly should NOT do, when booted into UEFI?
Will OTAs be available as files later or here or somewhere else?
Do you know of people having such a odd serial number AND have
a proofen new device?
Oh, why oh why one needs to check for everything these days???
Best reagards,
tuxic
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About the UEFI acces removal I said maybe. Mayba not. But who knows these days?
And about the gps, it dit it on kitkat and someone said it does this on lollipop too. I would recommend booting in windows and trying then, if it will not work then it will never. But GPS apps for windows? Noooo, who would mess up with that? The next step would be Android-x86.
As for the UEFI, here comes the noob-unfriendly variant:
0. root the tablet (may not be needed, I haven't tried)
1. download the efibootmgr compiled for android http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61108700&postcount=2083
2. place the file from inside the zip somewhere
3. using android termianl app, cd in folder with efibootmgr
4. with help of this file http://linux.dell.com/files/efibootmgr/efibootmgr-0.5.4/efibootmgr.txt set next boot to UEFI setup utility. You will most likely need root.
5. Power off the tablet and power it on again
6. You should be in UEFI setup utility. Now you may be able to browse the menus.
7. You will most likely still need a powered usb hub to connect keyboard and do anything.
I hope I will not need a powered usb hub, I do not have one.
Mis012 said:
About the UEFI acces removal I said maybe. Mayba not. But who knows these days?
And about the gps, it dit it on kitkat and someone said it does this on lollipop too. I would recommend booting in windows and trying then, if it will not work then it will never. But GPS apps for windows? Noooo, who would mess up with that? The next step would be Android-x86.
As for the UEFI, here comes the noob-unfriendly variant:
0. root the tablet (may not be needed, I haven't tried)
1. download the efibootmgr compiled for android http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61108700&postcount=2083
2. place the file from inside the zip somewhere
3. using android termianl app, cd in folder with efibootmgr
4. with help of this file http://linux.dell.com/files/efibootmgr/efibootmgr-0.5.4/efibootmgr.txt set next boot to UEFI setup utility. You will most likely need root.
5. Power off the tablet and power it on again
6. You should be in UEFI setup utility. Now you may be able to browse the menus.
7. You will most likely still need a powered usb hub to connect keyboard and do anything.
I hope I will not need a powered usb hub, I do not have one.
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Hi Mis012,
UEFI:
Thanks for the deeply-hack-mode-variant!
But I will wait with my experiments until it is clear whether we will still have full access to our beloved ME176CX or not.
Here is a little bit of knowledge, which I can give back:
I had asked on xda-developers whether and how it is possible to mount the tablet as storage device.
Now I found a way to do so on Linux.
You need to install on Linux (this is Gentoo notation...other distros may
have similiar nameings)
dev-lang/go-1.4.2
dev-libs/go-usb-9999
dev-libs/go-fuse-0_p20150422
media-libs/libmtp-1.1.8
On the tablet switch off PTP and switch on MTP.
Connect the device with you Gentoo box and start (as root)
go-mtpfs <mountpunt>
(YES! No device name is required here).
After that the mountpoint contains two directories:
drwxr-xr-x 0 root root 0 1970-01-01 01:00 Internal storage
drwxr-xr-x 0 root root 0 1970-01-01 01:00 SD card
which which is, is obvious.
It is ok, that the command "hangs" ... works as designed.
It stops hanging after the umnount (see below).
Now you can add files into these directories as root.
To umount use (again as root)
umount <mntpoint>
This way there is no need of WiFi transfers or fiddling with this
tiny memory chips.
Best regards,
tuxic
tuxic001 said:
Hi Mis012,
UEFI:
Thanks for the deeply-hack-mode-variant!
But I will wait with my experiments until it is clear whether we will still have full access to our beloved ME176CX or not.
Here is a little bit of knowledge, which I can give back:
I had asked on xda-developers whether and how it is possible to mount the tablet as storage device.
Now I found a way to do so on Linux.
You need to install on Linux (this is Gentoo notation...other distros may
have similiar nameings)
dev-lang/go-1.4.2
dev-libs/go-usb-9999
dev-libs/go-fuse-0_p20150422
media-libs/libmtp-1.1.8
On the tablet switch off PTP and switch on MTP.
Connect the device with you Gentoo box and start (as root)
go-mtpfs <mountpunt>
(YES! No device name is required here).
After that the mountpoint contains two directories:
drwxr-xr-x 0 root root 0 1970-01-01 01:00 Internal storage
drwxr-xr-x 0 root root 0 1970-01-01 01:00 SD card
which which is, is obvious.
It is ok, that the command "hangs" ... works as designed.
It stops hanging after the umnount (see below).
Now you can add files into these directories as root.
To umount use (again as root)
umount <mntpoint>
This way there is no need of WiFi transfers or fiddling with this
tiny memory chips.
Best regards,
tuxic
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On my Arch Linux system with Gnome/Cinnamon and on Linux Mint/Ubuntu (with a few hacks) it is mounting the device automatically without root or any command, I simply connect it to USB and the device is showing up in the file explorer.
cyandro said:
On my Arch Linux system with Gnome/Cinnamon and on Linux Mint/Ubuntu (with a few hacks) it is mounting the device automatically without root or any command, I simply connect it to USB and the device is showing up in the file explorer.
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Yes, there are distros out there, which has setup the udev-rules and mtp-mimic already.
Gentoo leaves all that as a task (and exercise) for the user.
Unfortunately I received no reply to my question how to access the ME176CX via usb storage.
So I found it myself...
Now I know, how it works
By the way: Is there any way to disable this [CENSORED] auto completion and word guessing "feature"
of the build-in keyboard. I disabled all suspicous settings under "Language and Input" -- but it
does not help.
"cat /proc/cpuinfo" will instantly be corrected to "cat /proc/Clinton"
which does not work in this case
For programming and system peeking purposes this is a total NO GO!
Help me please with the settings...I am over 30 !
Best regards,
tuxic