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I am horrifically disappointed in this device's charging speed.
I was very pleasantly surprised by how fast this phone charges, untill the past few days. Now all the sudden it seems very average. "Charging Rapidly" is not anywhere near as impressive now as it was. Has anyone else experienced this? I want to figure out if it's just the phone (I have seen other slow charging complaints but not this specifically), or if I caused it.
I installed that stock kernel with security pass patch, twrp beta1, Magisk 14.4.2, and Viper4Arise. Pretty confident that it's not any of those things, but everything else is pretty standard.
This is the case with the charger that came with the P2 in box, the older N5x charger, and the usb-c car charger. I know the new P2 one is stronger, but the change is noticable all around.
My 'Charging Rapidly' also does not seem to be all that rapid, using the charger that came in the box and can take quite a while to get to 100%.
Wartickler said:
I am horrifically disappointed in this device's charging speed.
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what is your best result? I saw some videos comparisons and pixel was the latest one(
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what is your best result?
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It takes hours to get to 100%. I recently got hold of a USB-A to USB-C cable and plugged the phone into my Nexus 6 brick. The difference was astounding. Full charge in about 1.5 hours. It's sickening that I spent the money on this phone only to have it be so disappointing. I'm a diehard Google fanboi but this is ridiculous.
Definitely miss my 1+5 dash charge. Damn that thing was fast.
Some numbers, today I connected my phone at 19% with stock charger.
- 30 min charge: 19% to 56%
- 40 min charge: 19% to 67%
I don't think that's bad, it's definitely not FAST, nor regular. But considering all the issues the 6P had with batteries, I don't really want to charge my battery in less than one hour. (Specially now that the phone has at least 3 years of updates, I'd like to have 90% of battery life or more in 3 years)
I'll have to do another test, something like from 35% to 80% (this would be more real life, I only need a 2nd charge when I'm traveling in a city with a power bank, using Maps and Camera all the time).
Ultra fast charging and wireless charging are some of the features that I care less in the phone. I want some fast charging between 30% and 90%, but I don't require it to be extremely fast.
TL : DR: If you value an ultra fast charging over other things in a phone, definitely skip the Pixel 2.
p2's charging current is capped at 2700ma (could be up to around 3200ma by kernel hax), meanwhile high battery temperature (over 45 Celsius degrees) and others things such as screen state will cap the current more (half or more)
Without those restricts, fully charge time should be around a hour.
cesarblackwind said:
yeah, around 2 hours 40 mins. really long(
oneplus 5 phone is doing from 0 to 100 for 1 hour 18 mins)
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wow, almost 3 hours. it's really long
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Hey everyone
Just want to ask if anybody noticed the same as me regarding the charger of LG:
if I plug the charger and use the phone it heats up really fast and charging speed is slow. The heat slows down my 4X HD and the performance is sh*tty as hell.
I once forgot my charger an used one from my dad's Samsung and I noticed a incredible difference. No heating at all and it charges much faster (with LG over night ~ 8 hours sometimes not even fully loaded from 15%, with Samsung 4-5 hours full with YouTube use and other minor things).
When I use my phone while plugged with LG charger it often even drains some battery (2-3% in 20 mins discharge, then charge up to 5% in the same time and so on).
Have anybody got the same "problems" or has my charger maybe a hardware failure?
Greetings
Marius
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Weird. My phone charges from 0%-80% in like 1 hour, then the last 20% tend to take while longer. But also if I "Overcharge" it (that is to say charge it for about 2 hours when it's still 100%) it feels like it has charged 110%. Cause it takes forever to go down to 99% but then it decreases faster.
This is with the included LG charger. If I use my samsung (which is like 500mah) it takes longer.
I don't experince any performance decrease when charging.
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Weird. My phone charges from 0%-80% in like 1 hour, then the last 20% tend to take while longer. But also if I "Overcharge" it (that is to say charge it for about 2 hours when it's still 100%) it feels like it has charged 110%. Cause it takes forever to go down to 99% but then it decreases faster.
This is with the included LG charger. If I use my samsung (which is like 500mah) it takes longer.
I don't experince any performance decrease when charging.
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Are you on stock rom or on a custom rom? I'm on WerewolfJB and that's maybe why it heats up but the faster charging with the Samsung charger is really noticeable, especially when I use the phone, like I said.
Thanks for sharing your experience with it
Sent from my LG-P880
Omario-242 said:
Are you on stock rom or on a custom rom? I'm on WerewolfJB and that's maybe why it heats up but the faster charging with the Samsung charger is really noticeable, especially when I use the phone, like I said.
Thanks for sharing your experience with it
Sent from my LG-P880
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I'm on a AOSP rom (Slimbean). But I do share your experience with heat, both on the phone and the charger itself. But I think it's due to the high currency.
Your charger could just be broken. LG charger's output current is rated at 1.2A which means that the battery should be charged from 0% to 100% in about 1 h 45 min. It could take longer if the charging current gets smaller when the battery is starting to get full.
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Your charger could just be broken. LG charger's output current is rated at 1.2A which means that the battery should be charged from 0% to 100% in about 1 h 45 min. It could take longer if the charging current gets smaller when the battery is starting to get full.
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wrong, "charger" is not current source
for topic: your charger is bad, replace it
I had an issue that CPU was always 760mhz while charging with zen+HYPER governors. RevoltJB+OP kernel 2.53.
Noticed that my raspberry charger(2A) was faster than LG stock charger. Also normal for me too that battery even decreases while using phone at charger.
Hallako said:
I had an issue that CPU was always 760mhz while charging with zen+HYPER governors. RevoltJB+OP kernel 2.53.
Noticed that my raspberry charger(2A) was faster than LG stock charger. Also normal for me too that battery even decreases while using phone at charger.
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there is maximum allowed current to charge phone. it is controlled by electronics inside the phone. if you are using charger that has bigger maximum current it is possible that phone battery is faster charged, but as i said, it depends on interior charging circle
Charging Current 101
To clarify the above responses:
The LG charger *should* be more than adequate to charge the handset, as that is what it was designed to do....
If you were to use a different charger, e.g. one from another phone or a shop bought replacement, then the maximum output current of the charger is an important factor: the lower the rating (in mA or A) the slower the charge and therefore the longer it will take. Using the phone whilst charging will also increase the charge time as you are using the battery whilst charging it (like filling the bath with the plug out), more so with apps that load the graphics processor (GPU) such as youtube or games as these are battery intense tasks.
The rate at which the battery charges is ultimately decided by the handset; most modern phones will fast-charge most of the way, then slow charge the last few % to avoid overheating and damaging the battery, so having a charger rated to, say, 2.4A (or 2400mA) does not mean the battery will charge twice as fast as one rated at 1.2A as the phone dictates how much current it needs.
That will either clear up a lot of questions or will mean nothing at all
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Weird. My phone charges from 0%-80% in like 1 hour, then the last 20% tend to take while longer. But also if I "Overcharge" it (that is to say charge it for about 2 hours when it's still 100%) it feels like it has charged 110%. Cause it takes forever to go down to 99% but then it decreases faster.
This is with the included LG charger. If I use my samsung (which is like 500mah) it takes longer.
I don't experince any performance decrease when charging.
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Same. Charging here is very fast overall.
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the BLU R1 HD can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
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Must use Blu charger. Otherwise, charging speed will be 30% lower. I checked with Ampere. Using Blu charger, can charge from 10-100 in about ~2 hours. Not bad.
My experience has been different. If you're heavily using the phone (google maps for navigation for example) the battery will barely charge and it will get very hot. The phone maintains charge well, however charging it up is definitely a 3-4 hour process, if I plug it in for 15 minutes with no use it's about 5-10% on the battery max. I did not find the charger that came with the phone to be any different than most other chargers I had lying around, same charge time (most were higher amperage anyway, being throttled by the phone regardless).
3 because it does charge very slowly, even compared to older non fast charge phones I've had, I think I read that it maxes out at [email protected] which is quite slow.
It's not as big of a deal as the battery life is excellent and it was only $60, but you can't get around calling the charging slow
Definitely limited charging speed, if I use a Samsung 2 amp charger im looking at about 3.5 hours to max charge, whats weird is I used a Samsung 1 amp charger and achieved full charge from 8% to full in just under 2 hours. How does a manufacturer cripple charging port?? -_-
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Definitely limited charging speed, if I use a Samsung 2 amp charger im looking at about 3.5 hours to max charge, whats weird is I used a Samsung 1 amp charger and achieved full charge from 8% to full in just under 2 hours. How does a manufacturer cripple charging port?? -_-
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Yes, that's why I said you have to use the Blu charger. I have no idea how they cripple it.
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Yes, that's why I said you have to use the Blu charger. I have no idea how they cripple it.
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Here's how long it took to charge my R1 HD from 1% until 100% with the Wi-Fi on and radio on. 2 hours and 39 minutes...
Standard BLU charger and cable used.
It's really crappy that BLU somehow cripples the charging time if you choose to use a different charger or cable.
That's got to be the thing I hate the most about this phone. Sigh....
I just got his phone and while I work I stream videos and music all day long at my desk. I keep the phone plugged in the entire time and I've noticed the battery percentage will only increase 1% per hour while charging & using the phone at the same time. Previously I was using the iPhone 6s doing the same thing, it charged 100% quickly. But with nothing changing on the iPhone 7 I switched to android on a cheap phone while I wait for the Samsung Galaxy S8
How does the device behave with Power Banks or 2.1 V outputs?
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the LG V20 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
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I use Ampere to see the rate I am getting. First plug in might only be 90 mah. I unplug, replug, it jumps up to 350. A couple more times and I end up at 900-1200. Screen off and let it fast charge.
I recently tried out the HTC Bolt for a couple weeks and it seemed to charge much faster than my V20. Shouldn't it be the other way around since the Bolt uses quick charging 2.0 while the V20 uses Quick charging 3.0?
Slowest charging phone i ever owned but i still love it lol
My H910 charges relatively quickly. Just plugged it into a quickcharge 2.0, not 3.0 car charger and it went from 16% to 50% in ~25 minutes.
I regularly get rates of 1.8A or greater using a CHOETECH or Anker charger. One its above 80%, it drops down, but this is normal.
The Anker is QC3.0 and the CHOETECH are QC2.0
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Slowest charging phone i ever owned but i still love it lol
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agree, LOL
even my old G2 get 50% battery in half an hour.
what's with V20?
it uses QC 3.0, but charge slower.
I use original V20 charger, and when charging the status is "quick charging.."
it takes 2 hours from 27% to 100%
:sad
argcargv said:
agree, LOL
even my old G2 get 50% battery in half an hour.
what's with V20?
it uses QC 3.0, but charge slower.
I use original V20 charger, and when charging the status is "quick charging.."
it takes 2 hours from 27% to 100%
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looks like something really wrong with your phone. My phone usually takes about 75 mins to charge from 0% to 100%
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looks like something really wrong with your phone. My phone usually takes about 75 mins to charge from 0% to 100%
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maybe, but it looks like not just me though.
and btw, my LG G2 can do full charge in 1 hour and 20 mins (80 minutes), and it's not even QC 3.0
I read somewhere in gsmarena, QC 3.0 should charge to 80% in 30 mins
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maybe, but it looks like not just me though.
and btw, my LG G2 can do full charge in 1 hour and 20 mins (80 minutes), and it's not even QC 3.0
I read somewhere in gsmarena, QC 3.0 should charge to 80% in 30 mins
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not sure about G2. I've never had one.
QC 3.0 might be able to do it technically, but I've never seen a phone that fast in charging yet. Not even the OP3T which every body is saying quickest in charging.
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not sure about G2. I've never had one.
QC 3.0 might be able to do it technically, but I've never seen a phone that fast in charging yet. Not even the OP3T which every body is saying quickest in charging.
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Hmm.. okay.
How about your G Flex2? how long it would take to charge to 100%?
G Flex2's battery 3000mAh, right? Same as G2
argcargv said:
Hmm.. okay.
How about your G Flex2? how long it would take to charge to 100%?
G Flex2's battery 3000mAh, right? Same as G2
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That grandpa tooks around 2+ hrs to get full charge
But to be fair with the phone, I've never used the original charger of G Flex 2 to charge. I either used my old chargers from previous phones or I plugged it into my laptop to charge it. Let me find the original charger and try it when i get back home
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Very fast charge
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I have absolutely no complaints with the charging speed. Also, I rarely drop below 40%.
My battery takes forever to charge up!
I just bought a VS995 Verizon Unlocked off the net. Was classified as "almost new - open box", hope I did NOT get a unit with problems. Re-charged it now a total of 5 times and on average (plus or minus 3-5 minutes) it takes approx. 3 hours and 18 minutes. for a full charge 0% to 100% . A few thoughts and questions came to mind while reading all your excellent posts:
1.) I believe he must of lost his quick charger because the one he gave me seems like he bought it off the net. Standard USB charger. So probably not using the quick charge function feature of this phone correct?
2.) Can I goto an electronics store and just copy whatever voltage and amps I need to perform a quick charge? Can someone please POST what the voltages and amps needed for a quick charge 3.0 please.
3.) Anyone have a bad battery or have one go bad after using the wrong charging devices? I was thinking of ordering a new battery BUT they are a little pricey. Anyone know some good outlets to buy them at a fair price?
4.) Does rooting the device and putting one of the ROM's on their cell solve anyone's battery problem? If so which ROM do you recommend?
Overall that is my only gripe about the phone. I love the DAC and for all you music lovers out there try Sirius XM on the LG-V20 and make sure to use Hi-Fi made headphones. I bought myself Bowers and Wilkens P7's, sort of pricey but worth it to me. The other thing is Napster as well the songs you download sound awesome with this DAC. For both of these APPS make sure you go into settings and adjust the quality of the downloads and streaming. Otherwise you could be listening to it with poor quality settings from the get go.
Ok well I appreciate any help or advice on my battery situation!
Thanks in advance to anyone helping me out.
--- Gary
FastRedTesla said:
I just bought a VS995 Verizon Unlocked off the net. Was classified as "almost new - open box", hope I did NOT get a unit with problems. Re-charged it now a total of 5 times and on average (plus or minus 3-5 minutes) it takes approx. 3 hours and 18 minutes. for a full charge 0% to 100% . A few thoughts and questions came to mind while reading all your excellent posts:
1.) I believe he must of lost his quick charger because the one he gave me seems like he bought it off the net. Standard USB charger. So probably not using the quick charge function feature of this phone correct?
2.) Can I goto an electronics store and just copy whatever voltage and amps I need to perform a quick charge? Can someone please POST what the voltages and amps needed for a quick charge 3.0 please.
3.) Anyone have a bad battery or have one go bad after using the wrong charging devices? I was thinking of ordering a new battery BUT they are a little pricey. Anyone know some good outlets to buy them at a fair price?
4.) Does rooting the device and putting one of the ROM's on their cell solve anyone's battery problem? If so which ROM do you recommend?
Overall that is my only gripe about the phone. I love the DAC and for all you music lovers out there try Sirius XM on the LG-V20 and make sure to use Hi-Fi made headphones. I bought myself Bowers and Wilkens P7's, sort of pricey but worth it to me. The other thing is Napster as well the songs you download sound awesome with this DAC. For both of these APPS make sure you go into settings and adjust the quality of the downloads and streaming. Otherwise you could be listening to it with poor quality settings from the get go.
Ok well I appreciate any help or advice on my battery situation!
Thanks in advance to anyone helping me out.
--- Gary
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Any charger that says Quick Charge 3.0 would work. I think even QC 2.0 would charge at the same speed, but just less energy efficient.
The difference between qc 2 and 3 is 3 has a variable voltage allowing it to use energy more efficiently.
Excess energy is lost as heat on qc2, the power is reduced in qc3 when the battery starts to get full.
The charge time is the same.
Specs for QC 2 is 5V / 9V/ 12V, specs for QC 3 is
3.2v - 20v dynamic
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To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
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Good but not great. Chinese manufacturers still have phones that charge much faster.
Charging speed is actually very good. People need to keep in mind that charging speed is a combination of three factors; amperage, voltage, and wattage. Everyone just throws the watt value around exclusively pretty much, including most "professional" reviewers. This phone charges from dead to full in just over an hour of real time through the cable, which for a battery of this size, is nearly identical to other phones with the same size of battery but much higher wattage.
How much battery longevity each manufacturer builds into their charging process (which is mainly the 'slowing curve' as you start to get above 50-60%) is up to them as well. Forget wattage and look at how fast charging actually happens at, that's all that matters.
Agreed, phone actually charges really fast.
Roland Deschain said:
Charging speed is actually very good. People need to keep in mind that charging speed is a combination of three factors; amperage, voltage, and wattage. Everyone just throws the watt value around exclusively pretty much, including most "professional" reviewers. This phone charges from dead to full in just over an hour of real time through the cable, which for a battery of this size, is nearly identical to other phones with the same size of battery but much higher wattage.
How much battery longevity each manufacturer builds into their charging process (which is mainly the 'slowing curve' as you start to get above 50-60%) is up to them as well. Forget wattage and look at how fast charging actually happens at, that's all that matters.
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Charges faster than my Note 10 Plus but not quite as fast as my OnePlus 7 Pro.
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In fact, this is the fastest charging I've ever seen in my life
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Same here. It actually beats the on-screen ETA for me, too. The other day I checked the status of a charge and it said 33m left (after having plugged it in maybe 10 minutes earlier), and I was curious and started a timer, I checked back after 25m exactly and it had already reached full.
Drain quickly for browsing even with the lowest brightness.
Do the Note 20's have super fast charging 2.0 capabilities but its soft locked?
I'm actually disappointed with battery performance.
It's got a damn good battery, IMO. Way better than my previous, Pixel 3XL's battery. It does, however, take a little bit longer to charge - BUT, as stated above, this is normally for providing a good battery that maintains it's charge value over time (versus my Pixel which lost like 40% of it's maximum battery life after just one year).
Anyway, I just got out of the hospital for a few months due to a near death experience, so I've been using my new Note 20 Ultra a lot more than I used to use my cellphone. And yeah, by the end of each day I usually still have anywhere from 30% battery to 50% battery left with around 5-6 hours of screen on time. For that matter, I'm also using a really slow, wireless charging pad to charge it back up overnight (since it only charges like 10% per hour on my slow charging pad, and therefore doesn't overcharge and harm the battery each night).
While the battery is very good, the camera is the one thing that has me a bit confused... It can zoom in quiet a lot, however, when you photograph smaller objects, it always adds a layer of blur over them on both 108MP mode and with the other camera lenses as well - even with the camera focus tips enabled... Pretty strange, but meh, still a good phone!
charging speed
charging speed is good unless you use verified chargers,cables and good sockets
THROW YOUR 120W CHARGER AWAY.
Get a charger for around 65W.
Get a decently good brand. ( I'm using Anker, 65W Mi Charger is also good. )
Anything below 30W would be too slow to charge your phone. Not really practical.
Personally tested a 10W charger, did not work out for me as it doesn't give me the same battery performance.
In my opinion, Xiaomi played us on this one. The 120W charger is a marketing gimmick. I don't think it charges the phone to 100% even though it shows 100%. Either that, or it messes with the battery calibration. As soon as I charge with a 65W charger, the battery goes back to performing properly. By that I mean, lasts me the entire day, and I still have 35-40% remaining the next day on medium usage like maps, streaming. On heavy usage, it still gives me great battery.
I'm 100% sure, you will notice the difference if you switch away from 120W charger as it will drastically extend the battery.
If you have already experienced the difference or made the switch, please do share your experience. On the stock xiaomi charger provided with the phone, the battery life is really terrible, the same usage gets me barely to the end of the day.
If you're still not satisfied by the drastic difference made by the charger only.
You can further go ahead and follow this guide from @spiral5 as well:
How to increase the battery life of the Xiaomi 11T / T Pro
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It will be simply because it is a fast charger, incredibly fast, and you can't completely charge lithium batteries fast, there is always a slow end stage that will take an hour or more regardless of how many watts the charger is. The last top off stage, or saturation stage on lithium cells needs by definition to take time and will charge at a lower current and it has to be slower.
They are showing 100% on fast charging, but that's only the bulk charge capacity with a lot of the saturation stage not done, so you don't get full capacity. The 100% indicator is saying you've charged as much as you can fast, but it might only be 70% actually full. If it is left on the charger, it will likely wait until the temperature has dropped then continue for an hour or so completing the saturation charge, all while still indicating charging is complete, but if you remove it from the charger the moment it hits 100%, then it's not the same 100% you'd get by leaving for a couple of hours.
If they indicated 100% correctly as being as charged as it can be, it will take 20 minutes on fast charge plus an hour or two for the saturation stage to be done, so doesn't quite sell as well!
Xiaomi are cheating somewhat by saying 0 to 100% in x time on fast charge, as the definition of 100% when fast charging is changed.
Personally I just charge over night at 5 watt, better for the battery and you get full capacity.
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It will be simply because it is a fast charger, incredibly fast, and you can't completely charge lithium batteries fast, there is always a slow end stage that will take an hour or more regardless of how many watts the charger is. The last top off stage, or saturation stage on lithium cells needs by definition to take time and will charge at a lower current and it has to be slower.
They are showing 100% on fast charging, but that's only the bulk charge capacity with a lot of the saturation stage not done, so you don't get full capacity. The 100% indicator is saying you've charged as much as you can fast, but it might only be 70% actually full. If it is left on the charger, it will likely wait until the temperature has dropped then continue for an hour or so completing the saturation charge, all while still indicating charging is complete, but if you remove it from the charger the moment it hits 100%, then it's not the same 100% you'd get by leaving for a couple of hours.
If they indicated 100% correctly as being as charged as it can be, it will take 20 minutes on fast charge plus an hour or two for the saturation stage to be done, so doesn't quite sell as well!
Xiaomi are cheating somewhat by saying 0 to 100% in x time on fast charge, as the definition of 100% when fast charging is changed.
Personally I just charge over night at 5 watt, better for the battery and you get full capacity.
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Great insight, they should have mentioned it in a different way instead of saying it's 100% charged. But then that ain't gonna earn them any bucks.
Are you getting a good battery life on 5W? As when i was using the 10W charger and use the phone at the same time it would take forever to charge. And the battery sot wasn't as good as well compared to 65W sot for similar usage.
I also use 10w (5v 2A) and can get for about 8h of sot, charging time is in my case takes about 2:20h from 17-100%Its not that bad, and i prefere slow charging time anyway, i only use 120w when in hurry
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Great insight, they should have mentioned it in a different way instead of saying it's 100% charged. But then that ain't gonna earn them any bucks.
Are you getting a good battery life on 5W? As when i was using the 10W charger and use the phone at the same time it would take forever to charge. And the battery sot wasn't as good as well compared to 65W sot for similar usage.
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If you are using the phone at the same time as charging, you are of course using a chunk of that 5 watts to power the phone, so whilst your battery may not be discharging, there isn't much left over to charge it up.
I always charge overnight as I easily get a day if not a few days from a single charge as I'm not using it much currently as working from home, but if you need to top up during the day whilst still perhaps using it, you would need a charger with a bit more wattage.
Also note that whilst it may say 100% charged, that could represent anywhere from say 95% to 100% actual charge. This is because lithium cells can not be trickle charged, so when charging it will get to being a full capacity, then charging stops, the battery is allowed to discharge several percent before automatically being topped up again, and the cycle continues. So depending on where in that cycle you take the phone of charge, you might be really at 100%, but could equally be at 95%. Because people would complain if the true charge status was shown, i.e. people leave the phone on charge all night and its still only showing 95% in the morning simply because it's on the discharge stage of the discharge/top up cycle when they look at it, they would complain, so 100% is shown from say anywhere between 95% and 100% of real charge state. This applies to all devices. It is why sometimes you take your phone of charge at 100% and it seems to stay at 100% for some time, and other times it starts going down soon after you've unplug it from the charger. Google on their Pixels have an adaptive battery setting and use the alarm clock you've set to know when you are getting up, so they make sure they time that cycle so that you get the phone at a real 100% capacity.
Good thread fellas. Yeah 120w it's just a thing you should use when there's not another option or your in a real rush. And by using it your battery calibration might get confused.
It's as the OP mentioned, with 120w you can feel that your battery life is shorter than charging with lower wattages.
IMO and experience I calibrated my phone's battery (drained it to 0 let it turn off , leave it unattended for around 10 min, then charge it with a 10w while still turned off if possible. And leave it charging 1h more after it says 100%) and b ayer doing so my 11t pro finally became the 2-day phone it should have been from day one.
I personally prefer to charge mine with a 18w (1h20min) or a 22.5w (1h) during the day. 10w it's just for overnight, it's just to long 2h40min or more.
This might be the reason why Samsung nor Apple has not yet jump into bandwagon of 100w-ish charging. Even not to 65w. It just my hunch though. Still, 100w-ish charging might be life changing in certain situation. And if I recall correctly, the most ideal percentage to charge Li-On is around 80-ish, that might the actual percentage that we get if we charge to 100% with 100w-ish charger.
To be honest i tried 33w charger and 120w charger and battery performance for me is the same(4.5sot + 6 background yt music)
The thing is when u use 120W charger and battery go 100% you have to let it charge 5-10 min more because is not fully charged.
You can check with app called ampere(download from playstore)
Nikøs said:
To be honest i tried 33w charger and 120w charger and battery performance for me is the same(4.5sot + 6 background yt music)
The thing is when u use 120W charger and battery go 100% you have to let it charge 5-10 min more because is not fully charged.
You can check with app called ampere(download from playstore)
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Please try a 65W charger from xiaomi or anker, i guarantee you the difference. Sot also depends on the usage, but there will surely be a drastic increase in the battery capacity.
And i completely agree to your point on trickle charging. But unfortunately, it does not justify the 4 hrs sot difference im getting after charging my phone through different chargers. 65W gives me 8 hours, whereas 120W full charge gives me around 4 hours.
I feel xiaomi really just did this as a marketing gimmick and did a half hazard job at it.
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PhilipL2021 said:
If you are using the phone at the same time as charging, you are of course using a chunk of that 5 watts to power the phone, so whilst your battery may not be discharging, there isn't much left over to charge it up.
I always charge overnight as I easily get a day if not a few days from a single charge as I'm not using it much currently as working from home, but if you need to top up during the day whilst still perhaps using it, you would need a charger with a bit more wattage.
Also note that whilst it may say 100% charged, that could represent anywhere from say 95% to 100% actual charge. This is because lithium cells can not be trickle charged, so when charging it will get to being a full capacity, then charging stops, the battery is allowed to discharge several percent before automatically being topped up again, and the cycle continues. So depending on where in that cycle you take the phone of charge, you might be really at 100%, but could equally be at 95%. Because people would complain if the true charge status was shown, i.e. people leave the phone on charge all night and its still only showing 95% in the morning simply because it's on the discharge stage of the discharge/top up cycle when they look at it, they would complain, so 100% is shown from say anywhere between 95% and 100% of real charge state. This applies to all devices. It is why sometimes you take your phone of charge at 100% and it seems to stay at 100% for some time, and other times it starts going down soon after you've unplug it from the charger. Google on their Pixels have an adaptive battery setting and use the alarm clock you've set to know when you are getting up, so they make sure they time that cycle so that you get the phone at a real 100% capacity.
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Like i previously mentioned as well in the above post, trickle charging or that 5-10% of charge shouldnt make the difference im experiencing after switching chargers. 4 hours sot difference is no joke. Its literally half battery capacity.
I love the phone, but Xiaomi really messed around with us on this.
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Please try a 65W charger from xiaomi or anker, i guarantee you the difference. Sot also depends on the usage, but there will surely be a drastic increase in the battery capacity.
And i completely agree to your point on trickle charging. But unfortunately, it does not justify the 4 hrs sot difference im getting after charging my phone through different chargers. 65W gives me 8 hours, whereas 120W full charge gives me around 4 hours.
I feel xiaomi really just did this as a marketing gimmick and did a half hazard job at it.
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Unfortunately i don't have a 65w charger :/
I get 4.5 sot because i also use yt music for 6-7 hours in background + 5g all dhe time.
The problem i noticed is that when i use my phone after charging my battery gives me good sot (5 hour non stop gaming mlbb and still have 25% left). But if i charge at night and use the phone the next day the battery drain really fast (that's why i charge every morning before i leave home).
I'm not really happy with battery life to be honest but im really happy with charging speed
+ How you guys get sot 8hrs?. I never couldn't do that with my phones( old device k20 pro average 5hrs sot)
Nikøs said:
Unfortunately i don't have a 65w charger :/
I get 4.5 sot because i also use yt music for 6-7 hours in background + 5g all dhe time.
The problem i noticed is that when i use my phone after charging my battery gives me good sot (5 hour non stop gaming mlbb and still have 25% left). But if i charge at night and use the phone the next day the battery drain really fast (that's why i charge every morning before i leave home).
I'm not really happy with battery life to be honest but im really happy with charging speed
+ How you guys get sot 8hrs?. I never couldn't do that with my phones( old device k20 pro average 5hrs sot)
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Even after switching away from 120W charger, if you're not seeing a drastic difference, then i recommend changing the chargers to something similar to what i own (anker) about 65W or a mi charger 65W (official). Because i personally experienced the huge battery life change, and i know this phone can give a 1.5 day battery life on medium usage. On heavy usage it lasts me easily the entire day (8hours sot easy). But usage may vary. And when i was using 120W charger, it was giving me 4hours sot, with the same usage. So i know, the phone has the capacity to do it.
Maybe it could be a non branded charger issue? I'm not sure. It should show quick charging when charging via the different charger as well that way you know its getting the juice it requires.
Rocking a Xiaomi 67W charger and so far not much difference. I'm using the phone out of the box, I am not switching back to 60hz since whats the point of buying it if you wont use 120hz. Lets see after a few more cycles.
EDIT: After using this 67W for 2 days now, battery life is the same. IT might not be the charger but going back to 60 Hz might be the reason some ppl had improved battery life. I will return back to 120W since I prefer the ultra fast charging while the phone stays cool at the same time (mine is at 40-41 degrees C and it charges around 20 minutes)
EDIT 2: Tried 60hz for a day, since I was out with family, it noticeably improved battery life even though I charged with the 120W adapter. Hopefully Xiaomi adds a dynamicswitch feature for us soon or a 90hz option
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Rocking a Xiaomi 67W charger and so far not much difference. I'm using the phone out of the box, I am not switching back to 60hz since whats the point of buying it if you wont use 120hz. Lets see after a few more cycles.
EDIT: After using this 67W for 2 days now, battery life is the same. IT might not be the charger but going back to 60 Hz might be the reason some ppl had improved battery life. I will return back to 120W since I prefer the ultra fast charging while the phone stays cool at the same time (mine is at 40-41 degrees C and it charges around 20 minutes)
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I tried using my phone on 120hz for a day or two, i get like an hour less compared to 60hz i find a major difference in battery even with 120hz enabled.
Not sure why. But if it works, it works.
Also just to clear my experience, i never use this phone on 120hz, even when i initially was using the 120w charger. It has always been set to 60hz for me, as i like to save battery wherever i can.
Update: Using accubattery, when my phone reached 100%, its still taking in current around 1500-2000mah range (around 10-15w) and its trickle charging the battery. The estimated capacity when reaching 100% is around 2200 mah(times 2 since our phone is a dual cell battery) then letting it trickle charge for a few minutes (an extra 10) made the capacity to 2550(which is around 5100 mah) and by doing so I am easily getting 6-7 hr sot on 120HZ. It may be a marketing trick to reach 100% in an instant but leave it plugged in for an extra 10 mins or so to get more screen on time.
quite great battery life
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Update: Using accubattery, when my phone reached 100%, its still taking in current around 1500-2000mah range (around 10-15w) and its trickle charging the battery. The estimated capacity when reaching 100% is around 2200 mah(times 2 since our phone is a dual cell battery) then letting it trickle charge for a few minutes (an extra 10) made the capacity to 2550(which is around 5100 mah) and by doing so I am easily getting 6-7 hr sot on 120HZ. It may be a marketing trick to reach 100% in an instant but leave it plugged in for an extra 10 mins or so to get more screen on time.
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Don't trust the apps. Find some real volt meter.
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Amazing!
MIUI 13 by any chance?
I am on miui 13 official, had heavy battery drain on miui12.5, disabled miui optimizations and now everything is good
Edit: apparently the program that handles battery changed after disabling miui optimizations, maybe it's a bug related issue