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App request with bounty

slightly edited double posting from CDMA development (tangent from a conversation in there)
If you've used webOS you'll know what I'm asking for here. If you haven't used webOS there are plenty of videos on youtube to look at to get the general idea of how it multitasks which is where it excells.
Open a web browser, press menu>bookmarks and look, finger scrollable preview windows of webpages, now in your head replace that with preview windows of currently running processes... add the ability to swipe + drag a process down to bring to foreground or up to kill that particular process. Very fluid, very easy, very natural.
Very intuitive idea and well executed in webOS. I would love to see a general port of this function added to android in form of an app or possibly a homescreen replacement, most ideal would be replace the worthless "add to homescreen button" on the senceUI dock, as longpress on the homescreen is another way to do exactly the same thing. Shade out your homescreen and put these previews over the top of your homescreen, drag in a direction as mentioned above, or hit the "add to homescreen button" agian to return to your homescreen.
I will make a bounty of $50 USD (a fair amount IMO) to anyone who makes it exactly as I describe... guaranteed to be a killer app and in no way infringing on webOS patents, as it's only replicating a function provided inside webOS similar to their "synergy" that android has copied almost bit for bit in idea.
also after all designing and beta testing is complete ... you put it out on the market you will be getting even more money, pm me if interested and details on the bounty I am offering. (I don't ever check this side of the forum so be sure to PM)
will be paying with paypal, so please have an account before responding.

I think there is already an app out there very similar to what you described
Can't remember what it's called though.
all its missing is the "previews" i think

Lennyuk said:
I think there is already an app out there very similar to what you described
Can't remember what it's called though.
all its missing is the "previews" i think
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taskOS, I'm aware of it... the previews and the drag to foreground is what I'm wanting, and a little better way of starting it

johnsongrantr said:
taskOS, I'm aware of it... the previews and the drag to foreground is what I'm wanting, and a little better way of starting it
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I would imagine (though admit, I don't *know* definitively) that application previews wouldn't be possible without support from the application itself.
The reason I say this is because Android applications are essentially "sandboxed", and all inter-application communication is via "intents". Therefore, I believe that it is probable that in order to display a preview running apps, those apps would need to be coded with an "intent" to supply that preview.
As I said before though, I don't know with 100% certainty, but I'm sure if I'm wrong someone will chime in!
Regards,
Dave

i see sort of what you're saying. Bookmarks in the web browser save thumbnails of the webpages bookmarked to your sd card, but like you said it's not inter-app.
Each app would probally have to supply that thumbnail, or try and make an additoinal app that creates thumbnails when an app is in a foreground for x amount of seconds would proablly be needed, and reading the taskOS thread it sounds like it's probally not supported by the sdk. Something to look into... my offer still remains if a solution is found for this and is implemented, he's the closest example and it sounds like it's his goal as well so he will probally get the pot if he implements this and a few other things.
also find a way to twist that into senceUI as mentioned as a "root only" update.zip version to remove the explicit need for a hardware button

App
phandroid[dot com]/2010/02/18/spb-mobile-shell-5-0-coming-to-android/
Something like the top video?

Wow that looks cool

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phandroid[dot com]/2010/02/18/spb-mobile-shell-5-0-coming-to-android/
Something like the top video?
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yes, thats actually what I'm looking for... guess I'll look into it thanks
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/android-software/
winmo version
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/

foxmeister said:
I would imagine (though admit, I don't *know* definitively) that application previews wouldn't be possible without support from the application itself.
The reason I say this is because Android applications are essentially "sandboxed", and all inter-application communication is via "intents". Therefore, I believe that it is probable that in order to display a preview running apps, those apps would need to be coded with an "intent" to supply that preview.
As I said before though, I don't know with 100% certainty, but I'm sure if I'm wrong someone will chime in!
Regards,
Dave
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my idea would be to take a screenshot of the device every time you push the home button, then use this screenshot for the task. remember how the iphone does the animations when closing tasks?

deejay300 said:
phandroid[dot com]/2010/02/18/spb-mobile-shell-5-0-coming-to-android/
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From what I can tell from the video, that's more like a preview of live widgets rather than running apps which is going to be possible since widgets are by definition live on home screens.
Regards,
Dave

kendong2 said:
my idea would be to take a screenshot of the device every time you push the home button, then use this screenshot for the task. remember how the iphone does the animations when closing tasks?
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That would probably work - the issue though (for me anyway) is that the screenshot wouldn't show the current status of the app, but the status just prior to shifting anyway.
If I'm running say Spotify, I'd want my live preview to show what I'm currently playing, not what I was playing when I put the app into the background. If it couldn't do that, I'm no better off with the screenshot than I am with a simple Spotify icon,
Regards,
Dave

Need some help with Google Play description

Hi everyone
I've written my first app, ClearFocus, and I'm about to publish it in the PlayStore.
I've written a description for it, but I'm not really good at this kind of things, so I'd like some comment and suggestion.
Here it is:
ClearFocus is a time-management app which helps you being more productive. Are you tired of wasting your time on distractions instead of focusing on what really matters? ClearFocus is for you!
Based on The Pomodoro Technique©, it alternates working sessions with small breaks. This will let you concentrate more easily and get things done. No more distractions, focus on what’s important.
ClearFocus sports an elegant interface designed not to get in your way. It’s as easy to use as possible: tap once and start working.
Not everyone has the same needs: for this reason ClearFocus comes with the right set of settings, so that you can customize it to best fit you.
Pomodoro™ and Pomodoro Technique® are registered trademarks of Francesco Cirillo. This app is not affiliated with Francesco Cirillo.
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To see it in action, here's a screenshot of how it'd appear in the PlayStore:
What d'you think?

IMHO, I might change the fourth paragraph to read something along the lines of: to keep your focus on your tasks, ClearFocus comes with customizable settings that you can set to fit your style.
The right set of settings, and not everyone has the same needs, didn't seem to fit the rest of the flow.
Sent from somewhere, using TapaTalk, on my Note 3.

gollums said:
IMHO, I might change the fourth paragraph to read something along the lines of: to keep your focus on your tasks, ClearFocus comes with customizable settings that you can set to fit your style.
The right set of settings, and not everyone has the same needs, didn't seem to fit the rest of the flow.
Sent from somewhere, using TapaTalk, on my Note 3.
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Thanks a lot, the fourht paragraph was the one that convinced me the least.

Your thoughts on Android 5.0?

So the finial version has come out. Im sure a lot of you guys have updated to it. Plus a lot of you have been using the Dev version along the way.
What are your guys thoughts?
I like the the new version but also there are still tons of things are are bugging the *poop* out of me.
I thought this was going to be "THE" version that appeased almost all android fans. Fixed a lot the issues since 2.3 while bringing a lot of new features.
1st the things i dont like.
1. Battery % WHY THE *heck* do we still not have an option to turn on a battery % next to the battery icon?????!!!!!!!
2. Hangouts picture (when syncing with FB) not always showing up bug is still present.
3. I like the new light colors with white and grey but why did they choose that color of teal. Im not super excited about that but i do like the white backgrounds.
4. Multitask menu. I dont like how EVERYTHING is in there. And why do we STILL NOT HAVE A CLEAR ALL
5. Google Now launcher. I like it and dont like it. Dont like how everything is so big and dont like how i cant have the middle space be my default. But Nova fixed that. Plus im rooted so i changed my DPI
6. Battery life. Ive only used it for 1 day (going on 1 day) but it seems my battery life is worse then on 4.4.4
7. Battery menu. Dont like anything about it.
Things i do like.
1. Material design (in most places) animations and universal layout for apps is nice.
2. Lockscreen notifications although i dont like how EVERYTHING is on there but im still messing with the menu for this feature.
Im still playing with it and im sure it will get better as apps update (what took them so long) but over all im kinda disappointed with the amount of hype 5.0 got.

Same here, like it but meh it's not there yet, hoping for apps updates etc. And my battery life is slightly worse too

I like it so far, but smart lock seems buggy as hell. I've got my Moto 360 set up as a trusted device, and even went so far as to set up face unlock, and still, I'm prompted for a passcode more often than not. There really needs to be a rescan option -- or, better yet, just make it work like it's supposed to.

Battery life seems worse for me too but I will give it another few days before really making that decision

Make sure you turn WiFi always scanning off. I am getting better than the Dev preview because of the fixed WiFi drain bug. I like it though.
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You cant know anything about battery one day after update, after update system still need some time to "sit on place" and its drains battery.

Where is material design music. Sadly it doesn't animate when I press the play button. I really like what was was shown in the demo .

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I like it so far, but smart lock seems buggy as hell. I've got my Moto 360 set up as a trusted device, and even went so far as to set up face unlock, and still, I'm prompted for a passcode more often than not. There really needs to be a rescan option -- or, better yet, just make it work like it's supposed to.
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I have my moto 360 set up as a trusted device and I never need to unlock my phone. Only on reboot. rest of the time works perfectly.
Im not using face unlock though.

hmmm...
i don't like how you'not able to delete multiple contacts + separation of the phone numbers from the emails.
photos app gather all the jpg files that are in the sdcard which kinda sucks (dude, i don't need my album art in my photo gallery.) + you need Google+ enabled to be able to just look at the photos.
multitask is OMG.... really really nice effect but damn, is there any real need to "mark" every menu page i open? (oh, where's the "clear all" button?)
camera is ok but there is no 0.03 seconds of the new API. pictures are taken as slow as before.
material design is not bad but it shines on multiple layers only.
keyboard is really cool looking and although it'll take some time to get used to "button-less buttons" i do like it.
and battery, well, i can't say since it's only 1 day of use.
still, i think it's going to be ok (i still hate those wakelocks though... ) and last but not least, Chrome... i still miss "text wrapping" that's why i use Opera
all in all, i don't hate it, i'm not thrilled about it but i'm sure it'll "grow on me".

UI looks definitely great,performance and battery haven't improved, nor got worse. But it's too early to comment on that.
No toggle in quick settings to cycle through sound modes(sound/silent,vibrate), dafuq Google? I'm certainly missing Xposed.

very annoyed about the removal of the stock email app, i dont want to comingle gmail and my work stuff.

gjw00 said:
very annoyed about the removal of the stock email app, i dont want to comingle gmail and my work stuff.
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you can DL the stock email app from the play store now

Really? I cant find it. Ended buying 'nine'

I really like having all my emails in gmail app. First day of use, I'm going to get 4hrs sot without messing with settings. It runs really smooth with hells kernel. I would like the pull downs yo have more options, but all in all, I'm happy.
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#sharath said:
UI looks definitely great,performance and battery haven't improved, nor got worse. But it's too early to comment on that.
No toggle in quick settings to cycle through sound modes(sound/silent,vibrate), dafuq Google? I'm certainly missing Xposed.
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It's one of my main nits as well.
I've used Power Toggles for quite a while now. Short simple and to the point and it lets me toggle between sound vibrate or silent settings easily.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.painless.pc
Not my app but one I swear by.

not available in australia. jesus christ

jt3 said:
I like it so far, but smart lock seems buggy as hell. I've got my Moto 360 set up as a trusted device, and even went so far as to set up face unlock, and still, I'm prompted for a passcode more often than not. There really needs to be a rescan option -- or, better yet, just make it work like it's supposed to.
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I haven't had to enter my PIN once since I set up smart lock with my 360 and face yesterday. Works great!

You can't use the Photos app if you disable the Google+ app. So.... now I have to open the camera app and scroll through my pictures one by one to view them. Super!

I kinda don't like it.
1: The color scheme is not consistent throughout, which really irritates me. While you spend most of your time in a launcher (I use Nova pesonally) or in apps, some of those apps are system apps, and it seems like almost all of them have had color changes, they don't look good and don't even make sense.
2: Some of the features are cool, and even sound great...but they are commonly riddled with "omg, no way!" points of frustration. Smart-lock...would be AWESOME if it would just freaking work when connected to a specific wifi network! For example...in prior versions I had used tasker and secure settings to disable the lock screen and have a significantly longer screen timeout whenever I was connected to my home wifi. Tasker works just fine for the other things I use it for, such as reading my text messages outloud...but only when I'm connected to my home wifi or headphones. But the pin lock errors out, every single time. Root works, tasker and secure settings are configured exactly as they were before, and they both even have administrative rights. It still fails every time, and I get the toast message pop up. I wonder if it is because Google is worried that your neighbor might name their wifi network to the same as yours is, and have it be an open network so when they steal your phone they would automatically be able to get into it. If that is the case...well, that should be easy to fix, one make the service only work with password protected networks, and I'm also sure they could just only have it work when the network name is also reporting the same mac address. But I digress.
3: Lightflow. Ugh, enough said. You might say this is not a lollipop specific thing, but the guy posted an inquiry on this on the support thread since it was an complication with the new notification system, and they responded back saying they fixed it, and it has still not been pushed out by Google yet!
4: I find myself unable to quickly remove notifications from the lock screen and even when the phone is unlocked in some instances. For example, if I am copying lots of individual files over wifi from my computer, and there are multiple "copied" notifications as a result, the first few can be swiped away, but the rest can't! I have to click on them, and then close it. Kinda annoying.
5: One of the only reasons why I really wanted Lollipop were for the improvements to the lockscreen notifications. I envisioned being able to stop using dashclock entirely, and also having an all around easier time with notifications while the phone was locked. Nope! Sure, the basic functionality is good, I can read text messages without an app for it, and that's great...but I have to say I really miss having the unlock ability from just turning the phone on and swiping. Now I have to turn the phone on, press the padlock to get the phone to switch to the pattern lock, then do the pattern lock. That extra step is really quite annoying for me. I'd prefer to have the "extra step" be to SEE THE NOTIFICATIONS. You know, just like how it used to be with dashclock. (You would know you had a notification by the little icon right next to the time and you would swipe down from there to read them) Maybe I'm crazy, but I unlock my phone a lot more often than I have notifications to read. Especially since I can't get the pinlock automatic toggle to work when I am connected to my home wifi!
6: Most lock screen icons are blocked...and for good reason. But some of them are not. For example, in power toggles I have always used an icon that automatically makes a 14 minute timer, and another one for 29 minutes. I use this for my breaks at work of course. (The icon triggers a task in the "Trigger" app that does this) This works from the lockscreen...which sounds great because I can set that timer without having to unlock my phone...but it has also been deactivated by mistake when the phone was in my pocket. Ugh!
7: I don't like the "swipe down" from either the lock screen or from notifications bar option. A lot of this is because I am really used to using powertoggles for this, and this duplicates a lot of that functionality, but
I knew this was going to happen, I have been complaining about software "improvements" at work for the last year and a half. If something is working, don't break it!
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svanheulen said:
You can't use the Photos app if you disable the Google+ app. So.... now I have to open the camera app and scroll through my pictures one by one to view them. Super!
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Check out Quickpic. I've been using it for ages, and it has always been amazing. It's super fast, very customizable...and just plain works!

gtg465x said:
I haven't had to enter my PIN once since I set up smart lock with my 360 and face yesterday. Works great!
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Yeah, I've figured out the issue. I use "Gravity Screen" to shut my device down when I put it in my pocket. It seems that if Gravity Screen puts the device into standby, it also locks the screen in such a way that Smart Lock is disabled. Since that's normally how I shut off my device, I was seeing this almost every time. I'm hoping that the dev can fix this, because I'm really not used to touching my power button.
On another note. I wouldn't mind the email integration with Gmail, except that there's no way to label my various Exchange accounts. I have two separate Exchange accounts that I must monitor, and both simply show as a random-colored circle with a letter "J" (which is the first letter of each email address). I can't even change the color to something that would help distinguish the accounts. I just have to remember that random-color-J #1 equals one account, and random-color-J #2 equals another. It's very annoying. A combined inbox certainly wouldn't hurt, either.

[Open Source] [Requires Root] Nexus 6 tap to wake

Decided to make an open source tap to wake app since implementations will need root to write to the /sys folder. The way tap to wake works is modifying a file to tell the system if it's on or off.
See this commit to see google's original implementation:
https://android.googlesource.com/device/moto/shamu/+/2084f7d0cf50baf394759d175bc28ad80cf7cace^!/#F0
The app is very rudimentary as it's really a simple toggle. It's a completely no frills UI and implementation.
It works by writing "AUTO" or "OFF" to /sys/bus/i2c/devices/1-004a/tsp
By default the file is restored each boot which is why the app asks to be ran on boot.
The full source code can be viewed on github: https://github.com/chrisj951/Tap-To-Wake-Nexus-6

Now we just need it to detect the proximity sensor. Thanks!

Is this any different than the other tap to wake app posted in this same forum?

VTEChump said:
Is this any different than the other tap to wake app posted in this same forum?
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Apart from little differences, both do essentially the same thing. I mean no offense to ChrisJ941, but I think mine is slightly more polished.

naxir said:
Apart from little differences, both do essentially the same thing. I mean no offense to ChrisJ941, but I think mine is slightly more polished.
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You two should work together if you ask me.
Also in the source code, are the red lines, the lines that begin with the dashes, mean those were removed from the source code?

If anyone uses tasker and wants to replicate this:
1. Make a new task
2. Select "Scripts," then "Run Shell"
3. Put this in as the command: echo "AUTO" > /sys/bus/i2c/devices/1-004a/tsp
4. Check the box that says "Use root"
5. Set up a profile that runs on device boot which runs the new task that you just made.
Also, try running the task once to make sure that it works and to grant Tasker root privileges if you haven't already.

VTEChump said:
Is this any different than the other tap to wake app posted in this same forum?
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At the time of making it was the only one to auto-restart through reboot
It is open source (you can compile it to know nothing more than needed is going on in the background)
I dislike allowing root to apps which I can't verify aren't doing something else behind the scenes. (Not implying the other author is, but I don't like taking the risk)
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You two should work together if you ask me.
Also in the source code, are the red lines, the lines that begin with the dashes, mean those were removed from the source code?
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Yes, the red lines are what google removed from the source code (with the commit message being "shamu: disable double tap in power HAL")

Thank you for releasing an open source version, I got a bad taste in my mouth when naxir was talking about monetizing his and didn't want to talk about the technical details until you revealed in the thread. We need more openness/communication in the community so we can have awesome things.
Not that I blame naxir for looking out for his best interests but withholding the technical details didn't sit well with me.

privatekey said:
Thank you for releasing an open source version, I got a bad taste in my mouth when naxir was talking about monetizing his and didn't want to talk about the technical details until you revealed in the thread. We need more openness/communication in the community so we can have awesome things.
Not that I blame naxir for looking out for his best interests but withholding the technical details didn't sit well with me.
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That is the primary reason I made this, since it does require root.

privatekey said:
Thank you for releasing an open source version, I got a bad taste in my mouth when naxir was talking about monetizing his and didn't want to talk about the technical details until you revealed in the thread. We need more openness/communication in the community so we can have awesome things.
Not that I blame naxir for looking out for his best interests but withholding the technical details didn't sit well with me.
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That is the primary reason I made this, since it does require root.
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That's a fair point. I have now published my implementation on Github as well.

Great app! Better than Naxirs. Is it possible for you to have it on the Play Store?

Thanks for this app! I've been waiting for something like this, too cool.

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Great app! Better than Naxirs. Is it possible for you to have it on the Play Store?
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Just out of curiosity, how I'd this better than Naxirs app? Debating on which one to use.

stacio88 said:
Just out of curiosity, how I'd this better than Naxirs app? Debating on which one to use.
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They both do they same thing one member just asked for donations if you wanted to by buying it on the play store. I've used both of them and they both work just fine.

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If anyone uses tasker and wants to replicate this:
1. Make a new task
2. Select "Scripts," then "Run Shell"
3. Put this in as the command: echo "AUTO" > /sys/bus/i2c/devices/1-004a/tsp
4. Check the box that says "Use root"
5. Set up a profile that runs on device boot which runs the new task that you just made.
Also, try running the task once to make sure that it works and to grant Tasker root privileges if you haven't already.
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As a Nexus 5 owner and soon-to-be a Nexus 6 owner, I'd use this instead of an app - no offense intended here, I'm just a DIY guy.
I'd add a little delay in the first line of the task, as the Tasker suggests: search for 'Wait' on 'Select Action Category' and put a delay of 5 ~ 8 seconds, this will give a little time to Android to start all the things and then run the script.
I have a script for another purpose on my N5 and I put a delay of 7 seconds.

Grushteniak said:
As a Nexus 5 owner and soon-to-be a Nexus 6 owner, I'd use this instead of an app - no offense intended here, I'm just a DIY guy.
I'd add a little delay in the first line of the task, as the Tasker suggests: search for 'Wait' on 'Select Action Category' and put a delay of 5 ~ 8 seconds, this will give a little time to Android to start all the things and then run the script.
I have a script for another purpose on my N5 and I put a delay of 7 seconds.
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I went the Tasker route too. The delay is a good idea - thanks.

Are people seeing sporadic results using this? For me, it will work well sometimes, and other times will require up to 10 taps to wake the device.
When I turn on ambient display (which does nothing, as I have lock screen set to "none") I seem to get more consistent results, but still doesn't work 100% of the time.

Mr. Steve said:
If anyone uses tasker and wants to replicate this:
1. Make a new task
2. Select "Scripts," then "Run Shell"
3. Put this in as the command: echo "AUTO" > /sys/bus/i2c/devices/1-004a/tsp
4. Check the box that says "Use root"
5. Set up a profile that runs on device boot which runs the new task that you just made.
Also, try running the task once to make sure that it works and to grant Tasker root privileges if you haven't already.
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I got this error-
tmp-mksh: <stdin>[2]: can't create /sys/bus/i2c/devices/1-004a/tsp: No such file or directory?
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I don't have a Nexus 6 anymore so I'm not sure how helpful I'm going to be with this one. From what I can tell from some quick researching, it looks like Google changed something when Marshmallow was rolled out so this method of enabling double tap to wake will no longer work. The easiest way I can find to enable d2tw appears to now be to just use a custom kernel. My recommendation from back when I still had my N6 would be to use either Leankernel or Franco Kernel, but I haven't kept up with the N6 dev scene since I got my 6P in November.

Opinions on the Microsoft Launcher

I'm interested in your opinions on the Microsoft Launcher, especially if you are on it or were. This looks pretty good to me: Microsoft Launcher Review
In the past, I tended to return to the phone's native launcher because:
1. It ended up being actually better all around for what I wanted to get done.
2. It's easier to leverage other people's experience.
My reasons for going with 3rd Party launchers have been:
1. OEM was not as flexible. I can't seem to get the dark theme even with LWP+. All of my Setup screens are still black on white. It's a checkbox on the Microsoft Launcher. I can lay things out with as many icons on a row as I want and can even get my own icons for the things that have icons that make no logical sense.
2. After a factory reset you can restore your setup. With OEM you cannot unless you have root and restore from TWRP. I don't have root for the first time with my Note 9.
3. You can bring the same interface it to any Android phone such as from a Samsung to a Pixel 2 (LG) with no costly layout time and learning curve.
I don't know if it affects battery life or not. I'm used to having root so I don't know if there are apps that let me see what sucks on the battery and what doesn't.
I'm also interested in the best way to put to sleep battery suckers for processes I don't use.
Thanks!

Been on it for a while now.... And honestly I love it. It really is so useful. It has time-line built in. It has loads of customization like for example probably the best implementation of adaptive icons I've ever seen. Every last one of my icons are the shape I choose without that stupid white background. It actually convinced me to switch back to using outlook as my main client and it's been so long since I had some of the most basic email features on mobile I forgot how nice it is. I hope they continue this project. I also started testing using edge as my browser by forcing it as default and my battery usage while online seems to be better... Could be placebo. Gotta say aside from some optimization issues/ redraws here and there I've been super happy with my decision to try it out. I have religiously used pixel Launcher or the open source version here on xda called rootless launcher for years. It's been eye opening for sure... I previously used Nova and a few others but so far I'm sticking with this new Microsoft project to try and diversify my digital footprint considering I've spent the better part of my adult life freely giving away my personal info to Google without a single thought.

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Been on it for a while now.... And honestly I love it. It really is so useful. It has time-line built in. It has loads of customization like for example probably the best implementation of adaptive icons I've ever seen. Every last one of my icons are the shape I choose without that stupid white background. It actually convinced me to switch back to using outlook as my main client and it's been so long since I had some of the most basic email features on mobile I forgot how nice it is. I hope they continue this project. I also started testing using edge as my browser...
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I just figured out I forgot to subscribe to my own thread.
That thing is a lot more than a launcher. It's an environment administrator that seems to have forgotten what Android and Samsung say are impossible.
Question: I have all of my apps organized into folders. If I try it out, will it blow those up?
Thanks!

I have all mine in folders but I don't know for sure if it will allow them to import. It did import all my widgets and settings though so I'd assume the same for the folders.

bobby_digital234 said:
I have all mine in folders but I don't know for sure if it will allow them to import. It did import all my widgets and settings though so I'd assume the same for the folders.
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Got it! I'm not sure if I'll do Microsoft, Nova or stock.
The more I work with the new TouchWiz, the more I think when they say TouchWiz is getting pretty close, my response is close to what, infuriating people? Just trying to get a black theme with the TouchWiz is a challenge while with Microsoft and most apps it's a checkbox. TouchWiz has zero control over icon size, spacing, shortcut text, behavior, gestures, or anything else. I have multiple file managers that all are labeled File Manager and I can't even rename one of the to Asus File Manager. TouchWiz on KitKat even works better. I can get black anytime I want to and with folders, I can see enough of the cascaded icons to know what is in it, and I can arrange them so the most important one is in the forefront. With Oreo, I can download a black theme if I set up a Samsung account and give them rights to everything but the 3 digit codes on credit cards, and allow them to use the information for any purpose and give it to anyone. Their privacy policy makes Google look like a saint.
Thanks for your feedback!