A few week ago I rooted my phone running 7.0 and flashed 7.1 .1 using my PC. Everything worked great and all my desktop folders stayed intact. Today I flashed 8.0 using TWRP without a PC and I lost all my folders. My question is where are these folders stored.? I assumed they were part of the google backup but apparently not. Today when I flashed I did a wipe first. Did that cause them to get deleted?
My concern is that 8.0 rom is WIP so I will probably be updating again soon but I don't want to rebuild my home screen everytime.
Need more info, what did you flash, type of wipe, encrypted or unencrypted etc... Also what do you mean by desktop folders? If you wipe internal storage it will delete all user data, ie sdcard. Wiping everything except internal storage usually keeps all data unless you switch between encrypted and unencrypted(that depends on type of kernel flashed either Inc in rom or separate)
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Sounds like you dirty flashed from 7.0 to 7.1.1. That means at most you wiped dalvik and cache (and maybe not those).
Going to 8.0 within TWRP, you correctly did a clean flash. Wiping data, dalvik and cache. This is critical between major releases (e.g. 7.x to 8.x). But it also means you will lose your settings including the home screen set-up; which is what I think you mean by "folders".
You probably can get away with dirty flashing future minor updates and not have to do the set-up again. If you develop weird issues after a minor update, you might have to re-flash doing fill wipe again losing settings. This is the nature of flashing ROMs.
I'm guessing you are using the stock launcher. I haven't used that since 5.0 so I can't say if the home screen configuration is backed up to google. I use Nova Prime and Titanium Backup to ease set-up after clean flashes.
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
ktmom said:
Sounds like you dirty flashed from 7.0 to 7.1.1. That means at most you wiped dalvik and cache (and maybe not those).
Going to 8.0 within TWRP, you correctly did a clean flash. Wiping data, dalvik and cache. This is critical between major releases (e.g. 7.x to 8.x). But it also means you will lose your settings including the home screen set-up; which is what I think you mean by "folders".
You probably can get away with dirty flashing future minor updates and not have to do the set-up again. If you develop weird issues after a minor update, you might have to re-flash doing fill wipe again losing settings. This is the nature of flashing ROMs.
I'm guessing you are using the stock launcher. I haven't used that since 5.0 so I can't say if the home screen configuration is backed up to google. I use Nova Prime and Titanium Backup to ease set-up after clean flashes.
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
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Thanks, this is very helpful. I will research Nova Prime and Titanium before my next flash.
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Hi all,
I have a Z3C running the latest version of Android (for me), 5.0.2.
I've noticed the phone is running a bit more slowly lately (though not hugely) and I'm wondering if a clean install would be beneficial. I upgraded from KitKat to Lollipop without wiping the phone, I'm not sure if that would have any performance impact.
How can you do a clean install on Android? Is it as simple as reinstalling the software from Sony's PC Companion? I'm not sure if that is a true clean install or simply a reset to defaults.
Any tips would be appreciated!
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Hi all,
I have a Z3C running the latest version of Android (for me), 5.0.2.
I've noticed the phone is running a bit more slowly lately (though not hugely) and I'm wondering if a clean install would be beneficial. I upgraded from KitKat to Lollipop without wiping the phone, I'm not sure if that would have any performance impact.
How can you do a clean install on Android? Is it as simple as reinstalling the software from Sony's PC Companion? I'm not sure if that is a true clean install or simply a reset to defaults.
Any tips would be appreciated!
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Mostly 5.0.2 ROMs have bugs. You need to wait until Sony releases it's next version.
Clean install:
If your phone is rooted and have recovery install (cwm or twrp) you can do a clean install.
It is the process of wiping/deleting
system+data+android secure+cache+dalvic cache ( in short deleting everything) and flashing ROM.
As the data (junk) from the previous version remained after updating to newer android version, it gets cleaned and phone works well.
Hope you understand 'clean flash'
Regards,
hitman-xda
hitman-xda said:
Clean install:
If your phone is rooted and have recovery install (cwm or twrp) you can do a clean install.
It is the process of wiping/deleting
system+data+android secure+cache+dalvic cache ( in short deleting everything) and flashing ROM.
As the data (junk) from the previous version remained after updating to newer android version, it gets cleaned and phone works well.
Hope you understand 'clean flash'
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Thanks for the reply! A clean flash sounds like it would do what I want, but unfortunately my phone isn't rooted, and I don't particularly want to root it. Is there a way to clear everything out and reinstall without rooting?
I'm looking for something similiar to how you can restore iPhones.
Thanks!
Foaric said:
Thanks for the reply! A clean flash sounds like it would do what I want, but unfortunately my phone isn't rooted, and I don't particularly want to root it. Is there a way to clear everything out and reinstall without rooting?
I'm looking for something similiar to how you can restore iPhones.
Thanks!
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You can try full factory resetting phone through stock recovery. To do so follow below steps;
1. Switch off your phone.
2. Switch it back on and the time when you see your phone’s LED notification light turn Pink! (or any other color) — start pressing either the Volume UP or Volume Down key a couple of times to make your phone boot into stock recovery mode
3. Once you’re in recovery mode. Use Volume buttons to navigate Up and Down between options and Power button to select an option in recovery.
4. Select wipe or factory reset (similar to this)
5. Reboot
Also after this process, open your file manager and delete 'Android' folder from both sdcard & ext sdcard (phone will start hanging) and restart.
(This process will delete app data,cache & their folders)
(A deep factory reset)
If still your phone behaves similar like previous, it's software issue, you need to wait for an update from Sony
Regards,
hitman-xda
Foaric said:
Hi all,
I have a Z3C running the latest version of Android (for me), 5.0.2.
I've noticed the phone is running a bit more slowly lately (though not hugely) and I'm wondering if a clean install would be beneficial. I upgraded from KitKat to Lollipop without wiping the phone, I'm not sure if that would have any performance impact.
How can you do a clean install on Android? Is it as simple as reinstalling the software from Sony's PC Companion? I'm not sure if that is a true clean install or simply a reset to defaults.
Any tips would be appreciated!
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Rooted or not, personally I do a full factory reset aka "wipe" aka format at least every 6 months. Just like a PC, apps you install and uninstall leave crap behind that clogs up the file system. Seems like there's always some Google bug every 6 months, too, and a wipe seems to resolve most of them. There's no harm in doing it. I do not let Google back up all my settings, b/c I prefer to manually set everything up after a wipe (esp since I may be wiping due to some setting anyway). I'm not sure, with the ridiculously powerful phones these days, if wiping will actually speed things up. For me it's more of a spring cleaning type of thing. Er, I guess more like an anal retentive geek type of thing
The Nexus 6 was my first Nexus. Since I am unlocked, rooted, stock I have been using the factory images to update throughout the life cycle of lollipop. Flashing all but User Data. I have never updated through a major OS revision before.
With 6.0 possibly being released today, would it be ok to dirty flash from the latest 5.1.1 to 6.0?
Probably, though a rooted user should take a nandroid backup and titanium app / data backup too in case a wipe is needed. A Wipe is always best when upgrading a major OS version
Thanks, I do have a nandroid backup and Titanium app/data just in case a full wipe was needed. Just was curious if I should even attempt a dirty flash.
So I am guessing there is different code in an OTA as opposed to the Factory Images to safely migrate settings?
An OTA doesn't do anything special to "migrate data" at all, if you look at the scripts.... and it's for this reason that if I received an OTA ever, I would wipe (Though I've never taken an OTA in 5+ years)...
You can attempt it, yes. I Believe you can flash the preview 3 without wipe
Hi, dirty flash (manually fastboot flash.... everything except user data) worked fine for me, from LMY48M to MRA58K.
I've tried to look for the sultan otas but haven't found so if I just flash the whole ROM I should be fine right? Is there some other way to get the OTA from the updater if that deletes stuff?
Escabrera said:
I've tried to look for the sultan otas but haven't found so if I just flash the whole ROM I should be fine right? Is there some other way to get the OTA from the updater if that deletes stuff?
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You'll be fine. What you're doing is called dirty flashing. It's not always the most stable thing to do especially if subsequent versions have significant changes, but if the update is just adding things like security patches and minor bugs, go ahead. Be aware that it's best to clean flash, or wipe the system partition because there will be no chance of conflicting code. Even if you're unsure if flashing a whole ROM would delete data, you can always just make a backup on TWRP. In fact, always make a backup before doing something like this.
Inflection said:
You'll be fine. What you're doing is called dirty flashing. It's not always the most stable thing to do especially if subsequent versions have significant changes, but if the update is just adding things like security patches and minor bugs, go ahead. Be aware that it's best to clean flash, or wipe the system partition because there will be no chance of conflicting code. Even if you're unsure if flashing a whole ROM would delete data, you can always just make a backup on TWRP. In fact, always make a backup before doing something like this.
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It's just that I'm getting Google play services crashes constantly and 2 patches ago it wasn't happening so I'm trying to reflash the newest release. So I'll probably do a TWRP back up first. Does it also back up stuff like downloads and files on the phone?
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It's just that I'm getting Google play services crashes constantly and 2 patches ago it wasn't happening so I'm trying to reflash the newest release. So I'll probably do a TWRP back up first. Does it also back up stuff like downloads and files on the phone?
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You should probably also be reflashing the gapps as well since you are having issues with play services. In the case of TWRP, it doesn't back up files on the phone; rather it backs up the system partition, data (excluding storage), and some other optional stuff. Even if you were to clean flash, you wouldn't need to worry about your files (that is in the partition Internal Storage) because you almost never need to wipe media. A clean flash only requires you to wipe Dalvik, system, data, and cache. What you're doing is dirty flashing, where you wipe nothing and flash your zips over the existing ROM. The backup is just insurance in the instance that something goes wrong and you soft brick the phone.
i tried to flash it again and old updates with the issue still being there so i just nuked everything. I'm just going to use titanium backup plus having the files on a computer to get back to where i was before.
Ok guys I have a weird one. The other day I decided to switch roms. Before I flashed I followed the instructions and did a full wipe from TWRP.. So after wiping I went to install from OTG and I get error 7 or " this rom is for a shamu device". Now before I had decided to change roms I was running a an aosp rom that I found here in this fourm. I had magisk installed and had the Sony modual installed to trick the play store into thinking my N6 was a Sony device so I could install some of thier proteietary apps...I figured a full wipe would have removed that... That it didn't makes me think something in the build prop was changed and No I don't have a back up. I'm super smart about stuff like that.. .anyways now no matter what rom I try to install I get that message...is there a way to flash build prop or is there a different solution or am I Fu**ed ??
Thanks in advance
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... " this rom is for a shamu device". Now before I had decided to change roms I was running a an aosp rom that I found here in this fourm. trick the play store into thinking my N6 was a Sony device so I could install some of thier proteietary apps
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You could try to change the updater-script.
Extract it from the zip and remove the line with the device check.
Mount system in twrp then userr adb to pull build.prop, edit it and then ADB push to return it.
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
I wish I could mount system. However I did a full wipe and there is no system to mount. . Thanks for the reply though. I believe I'm going to try the the other idea where it's suggested that I change the updater script. I mean if I did a full wipe that makes sense set there is no system to mount, right? Thank you to both of you for getting back to me. I do appreciate it
Just doing the default wipe in twrp doesn't wipe system. In the wipe section, you should go into advanced (I think that's right) and check the partitions you want to wipe.
If you did a full wipe, then any chances you made should not have persisted. If you really did already wipe the system and data partitions, it's unlikely your previous modifications are the cause of the error. Double check that you have the right ROM downloaded - though the error makes it sound right.
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
Im on Superior OS - Android 10.
I wanted to know how does TWRP DATA backup work, and where can I have problems?
I was thinking of giving a try to Pixel Experience 10.
If I backup just DATA usign TWRP, install pixel, gapps, magisk and after that I restore DATA, will the rom work perfectly and I will have all my configuration, settings, etc; or it just will work perfectly if I restore it to a clean installation of Superior OS.
Following that question.
May I go and try Havoc - Android 9, and restore DATA from Android 10? Will there be any problems?
And the last one.
If I go from Android 9 to 10, may I restore DATA?
Thanks!
When changing operating systems it's always best to re-install all apps.
I believe TWRP backup doesn't backup apps & data. Stuff like photos, music etc will not be backed up. You'll need to back those up separately. If you use Titanium, that would do more but reinstall your apps from their source and then restore data.
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TWRP absolutely backups and restores data... But you only want to do this to the same OS version. You will likely get a bunch of force closes, and instability if you attempt to restore to different version.
A fresh install is always recommended, but you may want to check out the app called "Migrate" - YMMV.
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TWRP absolutely backups and restores data... But you only want to do this to the same OS version. You will likely get a bunch of force closes, and instability if you attempt to restore to different version.
A fresh install is always recommended, but you may want to check out the app called "Migrate" - YMMV.
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I would add, "same OS version" yes, but even custom 10 to another custom 10, I would strongly advise re-installing everything.
The problem is that you don't know what the environment is in an operating system and each app looks at its environment while it is installing and sets itself up appropriately.
So you have problems and you waste your own and others' time trying to shoot needless problems just in the hope of saving a few minutes.
You might think, "well, this custom 10 is like that custom 10" but unless you compare the full build trees and sources, you really don't have the faintest idea. They are different, because, well, they ARE different!