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I just got got a Nexus S (upgrade from Nexus One w00t! ) and I'm really interested in getting a skin for it. I'm looking specifically at buying a Wrapsol one since I've read that it doesn't have the orange peel effect. I'm just confused over the "ultra protective film" (UPF) and the "original scratch protection" (OSP) that they're selling. I know that the UPF is a dry application and is $30 while the OSP is $25. I've put on many screen protectors in my life before but this is gonna be my first entry into the world of skins. What's the main difference between a dry and wet application protector? What is the better choice? Thanks for your help!
The only difference between wet and dry applicator is pretty much just the method of putting it on. Some people are not comfortable with spraying liquid on their phone so dry applications may appeal to them. The problem I see with this is that unless you are super pro like the guy in the video, you're going to have a frustrating time applying a dry protection on a curvy device like the nexus s. You pretty much have one shot at aligning everything. With a wet application, you can moisten the adhesive and actually slide the film around to align the curves perfectly and slowly work your way through.
I'm not sure about the difference in texture. I've seen some degree of orange peel in all wet applications with zagg being the worst. I'm not sure if wrapsol is orange peel free either due to the nature of the scratch resistant material used to make these film. I believe they use polyurethane.
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I purchased a wrapsol protector for my s and honestly I regretted it the second I put it on. They said it stretches to fit the entire screen but it didn't and it doesn't have a hole for the front facing camera so images are blurry. I'm glad they have a 30 day money back return period cause this is going back as soon as my sgp protector comes.
peeturr said:
The only difference between wet and dry applicator is pretty much just the method of putting it on. Some people are not comfortable with spraying liquid on their phone so dry applications may appeal to them. The problem I see with this is that unless you are super pro like the guy in the video, you're going to have a frustrating time applying a dry protection on a curvy device like the nexus s. You pretty much have one shot at aligning everything. With a wet application, you can moisten the adhesive and actually slide the film around to align the curves perfectly and slowly work your way through.
I'm not sure about the difference in texture. I've seen some degree of orange peel in all wet applications with zagg being the worst. I'm not sure if wrapsol is orange peel free either due to the nature of the scratch resistant material used to make these film. I believe they use polyurethane.
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Thanks for the insightful response! One of the things that has scared me away from things like Zagg and other wet application skins is the fact that after a couple of days, weeks, or months, the skin starts to peel off off the corners. Is that still a problem with skins today? (I saw the peeling off the corners a couple of years ago from my friends' blackberries.) Or is that more of the user's fault? I heard that you should ceram-wrap the devise completely also while it's drying so that everything sticks. Is that true? Is there an effective way of applying the skin so that they don't peel off by themselves off corners over time?
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I purchased a wrapsol protector for my s and honestly I regretted it the second I put it on. They said it stretches to fit the entire screen but it didn't and it doesn't have a hole for the front facing camera so images are blurry. I'm glad they have a 30 day money back return period cause this is going back as soon as my sgp protector comes.
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Thanks for letting me know about the screen protector! I'm already planning on using a Clarivue screen protector. I'm more curious about the back and side protection itself. How were they? Did they have the orange peel effect? How did they feel like? Did you use the wet or dry one? How easy was it to apply? Lastly, did the skin ever start peeling off by itself?
Again, thanks for all of y'all's responses!
I personally use ghost armor and haven't experienced any peeling over a month now. The installation is crucial and patience is key. I wouldn't go so far as to ceram wrap the device. Just make sure you press on all edges and curves for 15 seconds or so once it begins to adhere to make sure it sticks permanently. Another tip is to lightly heat those areas with a hair dryer. It is very important that you keep your hands free, work in a lint free area, and let it dry for 24 hours. Don't put in your pocket for a day or two. The reason is because if dust accumulates on any part of the edge, it will lose adhesive there and make it prone to lifting or peeling. If you can get past the drying stage, then you shouldn't experience any peeling unless forced.
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I personally use ghost armor and haven't experienced any peeling over a month now. The installation is crucial and patience is key. I wouldn't go so far as to ceram wrap the device. Just make sure you press on all edges and curves for 15 seconds or so once it begins to adhere to make sure it sticks permanently. Another tip is to lightly heat those areas with a hair dryer. It is very important that you keep your hands free, work in a lint free area, and let it dry for 24 hours. Don't put in your pocket for a day or two. The reason is because if dust accumulates on any part of the edge, it will lose adhesive there and make it prone to lifting or peeling. If you can get past the drying stage, then you shouldn't experience any peeling unless forced.
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Thanks! I'll definitely do what you suggested!
Well, I ended up ordering the Wrapsol wet application one. I'm just going to be using the back and side protection. I hope this goes well....
I've done both on 2 nexus S I own, I bought wrapsol because I could apply it dry.
However, after my experience with the 1st "dry" application I applied the second on "wet" why? because the end result is much smoother and less detectable.
btw if you are wondering why I need 2 Nexus S'es, one for me and one for the wife.
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I've done both on 2 nexus S I own, I bought wrapsol because I could apply it dry.
However, after my experience with the 1st "dry" application I applied the second on "wet" why? because the end result is much smoother and less detectable.
btw if you are wondering why I need 2 Nexus S'es, one for me and one for the wife.
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Cool, thanks for letting me know! I heard that the wet one is a matte finish. Is that true? Also, what did you think of the screen protector portion of the wet skin?
I actually wet the ultra protective film version, its glossy not matte. Its very thick compared to the Zagg Ive used in the past, someone said it was made of polyurethane.
so far so good I like the way it looks on the screen portion with a lot less orange peel than the Zagg.
who's using them? i horribly failed at putting one on today (a free one that came with my case..looked crappy though with tons of bubbles between the 3 layers before i even put it on lol) but yeah, i'm real bad at putting protectors on tablets because it kept coming out crooked because of that damn home button etc.
anyway, i've got a pack of 5 coming in the mail sometime this week, and i'm wondering if i should even bother attempting again, or just use it naked. it feels so good without a protector, but i'm afraid of scratching the screen. i've been using screen protectors since 2011 with my HTC Rezound, so idk what to do. i always end up with tiny scratches on my protectors, so i'm thinking i'll end up scratching the screen..
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who's using them? i horribly failed at putting one on today (a free one that came with my case..looked crappy though with tons of bubbles between the 3 layers before i even put it on lol) but yeah, i'm real bad at putting protectors on tablets because it kept coming out crooked because of that damn home button etc.
anyway, i've got a pack of 5 coming in the mail sometime this week, and i'm wondering if i should even bother attempting again, or just use it naked. it feels so good without a protector, but i'm afraid of scratching the screen. i've been using screen protectors since 2011 with my HTC Rezound, so idk what to do. i always end up with tiny scratches on my protectors, so i'm thinking i'll end up scratching the screen..
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I was thinking about picking up some myself. Which ones did you order?
Put one on but spend at least 10 bucks for a decent one. Illunisheild thats the one I got from amazon for the 8.4 its pretty good.
I got these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161361388722?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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I always put screen protectors on all of my phones and tablets. I've just put one on my Tab S 8.4, had a few dusts under the protector. usually I would rip it out and try again, but I thought not today! Because fortunately the screen protector came with some stickers to help get rid of the dust.
Happy to say it is dust and bubble free now. Although it is not one of those fancy screen protectors, just a cheap one called elec shield.
invisible shield is the best.
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Put one on but spend at least 10 bucks for a decent one. Illunisheild thats the one I got from amazon for the 8.4 its pretty good.
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I ordered these from Amazon as well. Should be in today.
I'll give it a try and see if I like it. Probably gonna feel weird at first though.
I too would like to buy one. I asked ismooth on twitter but they are not gonna make one for the tab S (I have one for my note 3 and it's just perfect).
I think I'm gonna go Invisibleshield. It's not cheap but I've only heard good things about their products :good:
anyone have any tricks as to how to get it on nice and straight on the tablets? I'm bad at tablets for protectors but decent at phones. I saw one idea where you place it down on the screen then tape the sides like a hinge, then you flip it over, peel it off, and just flip it back and lay it on the tablet and it should line up perfectly. wonder if it works.
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anyone have any tricks as to how to get it on nice and straight on the tablets? I'm bad at tablets for protectors but decent at phones. I saw one idea where you place it down on the screen then tape the sides like a hinge, then you flip it over, peel it off, and just flip it back and lay it on the tablet and it should line up perfectly. wonder if it works.
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That's exactly what I did. Works perfectly. The screen protector I bought even came with the positioning tape and stickers for dust removal. But you can just use Scotch tapes.
Mr shield
I have used many different screen protector products. I like spigen and I just installed the Mr shield ones. The are two finishes. Clear and matte. The matte finish cuts a lot of glare but impacts out door viewing. I now have the clear and love it. No bubbles. I have several videos on screen protectors that show tips on install . Herr is my initial install http://youtu.be/NHzarYjTtzE
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That's exactly what I did. Works perfectly. The screen protector I bought even came with the positioning tape and stickers for dust removal. But you can just use Scotch tapes.
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sweet! i'll give it a try when they come in
Putting on a screen protector reminds one of what a dirty filthy planet we live on. There is dust EVERYWHERE. One tried and true method is to run a hot shower in your bathroom for 10 minutes with the door closed until the room steams up. This pulls all of the airborne dust from the air. Turn the shower off, and use the tape hinge method to apply the protector.
Despite your best efforts you are likely to STILL get that ONE DAMNED PIECE OF DUST FROM HELL that manages to somehow get on the screen. If that happens, DO NOT TRY TO PEEL THE PROTECTOR UP FROM THE EDGE because if you bend it at all it will never seat again properly and you'll have a bubble that won't go away. Use tape to stick to the outside near the corner and gently lift that way, then use another piece of tape to grab the dust particle.
One negative of putting a screen protector on a tablet this size. Unless the protector is tempered glass, you are likely to feel a bit of drag as you swipe the screen - no plastic will ever feel as smooth as glass - and because the area is larger than your phone, you'll notice the resistance more. Also, unless the screen protector has an oleophobic coating, it will be harder to clean greasy fingerprints of it than from glass. Last point, most screen protectors are actually softer than glass so you are likely to get it pretty scratched up which, while saving your glass, leaves you with a scratched up viewing surface you have to look at. The alternative is to buy a screen protector with a hardness of 9 or above with an oleophobic coating but those tend to be a lot more expensive.
Get a pack of 3 or more if you can. You WILL screw it up a few times and you WILL want to replace them occasionally as they get scratched up pretty easily depending upon how anal you are about such things.
good advice, thanks! but do you guys think this thing needs one in the end? I know gorilla glass is pretty soft and scratches easily so idk..
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jayochs said:
good advice, thanks! but do you guys think this thing needs one in the end? I know gorilla glass is pretty soft and scratches easily so idk..
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I don't believe this tablet has Gorilla Glass, at least I don't believe the specs say so (could be wrong?). So yes, it could scratch easily. You can try and be careful but all takes is a tiny bit of grit on your finger, stylus or wiping cloth and you are done, Gorilla Glass or no.
Actually you know, skip the steamy bathroom. Just do it in a dry room but use a strip of masking tape and screen until every bit of dust is gone. Also remember, after you place the protector on the screen with the taped hinge, make sure you clean the screen again because it will get dust on it from the bottom of the protector.
Mr Shield makes very good inexpensive protectors.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KATOH2S/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
perfect install on first one using the painters tape technique.
heres how
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMPqDwVZzzM
Why put a cheap screen protector on a premium device like the tab s. The best deserves the best or better. my screen protector cost 2 for 13 and a tempered glass on is on its way for $18. You cant even tell there on when installed correct.
will6316 said:
Why put a cheap screen protector on a premium device like the tab s. The best deserves the best or better. my screen protector cost 2 for 13 and a tempered glass on is on its way for $18. You cant even tell there on when installed correct.
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Be very careful with the tempered glass protector. NEVER left it up by the edges - use tape. They bend VERY easily and once bent will never lay down flat properly again. Every tempered glass protector I've ever used developed sealing problems along the edges, especially near the home button. YMMV but that is my experience.
There aren't good selection of screen protectors in the UK. Looked in Amazon, Ebay, Google, nothing with quality. So I only got the Elec shield.
I'd get tempered glass if I could, but as long as I screen is protected for now, then I'm happy enough.
So got my shiny new Note 8 week ago. Also with that got the Whitestone Dome screen protector and alcantara case.
Tried to install screen protector:
1st. attempt: The screen lined up incorrectly from the bottom, tried to "lift it up to the position" just created more airbubles and the glue poured out from the sides.
After cleaning my Note 8 with the alcohol swipes, (It was a mess to try to clean the phone AND the glass screen protector)
2. attempt with the second bottle of glue..... There was a dust particle on the glue itself. Great.
Wait for a week to mobilefun to ship me another one. (while doing so i was "dry- practicing" to get it 100% correct this time)
3. attempt was a charm.... until.... when the glue spread there was 2 small air bubbles... Take the second bottle and "tap" the small air bubbles away. (while doing so being extremely nervous about that the screen protector might move or great new bubbles). Managed to get the bigger one out but there was the small one... Didn't get that out.
Light up the UV light and call it a day. Only problem is now there is small air bubble that is pretttty distracting to say the least.
So, now i am with 50€ in my account from the order. (Because i demanded that they refund me this horrible product). I am left to choose new screen protector.
My options that i have read:
- Rearth invisible defender - The problem with this is that there is "snowfall" effect and the screen is too damn sticky (according to reviews)
- IQ Shield - The problem with this is that the S-pen (according to reviews) leaves trails to the TPU protector. Because it's so soft and it will not cure overtime.
-Zagg invisible shield - Unresponsivnes and the fact that it has "raimbow" -effect on the screen.
New one that i just founded out about:
-Powerpeak Base- According to this guy (Install Jimmy is Promo's "Base Screen protector for Samsung GALAXY S8 & Note 8 here) Its pretty good. Might be ad though... Does any of you have experience on this?
The whitstone does have pretty good responsiveness and all that good stuff. But the problem is the installation and even when i tried to be 100% accurate with the installation, it still greated air bubbles. And the fact that there is a HUGE risk that the glue when cured can cause damage to the screen.... More specifically if you manage to cure the glue when the glue is over the earpiece... you are ****ed with your 1000€ phone.
I am doing the poor mans whitestone. LOCA glue and cheap amazon tempered glass. Took me two tries to get it right. So with two screens and glue, out $20. I did buy a UV lamp for dual use. My phone and girlfriends nails. I had the ZAGG on my S8+, didn't like it at all, unresponsive. But i bet if you glued it on with LOCA it would be good.
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I am doing the poor mans whitestone. LOCA glue and cheap amazon tempered glass. Took me two tries to get it right. So with two screens and glue, out $20. I did buy a UV lamp for dual use. My phone and girlfriends nails. I had the ZAGG on my S8+, didn't like it at all, unresponsive. But i bet if you glued it on with LOCA it would be good.
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I am sort of guy, who can easily mess things like that up... So not going to risk it.
Galaxy Note 8 Screen Protector [2-Pack][Not Glass], Yootech [Case Friendly] Galaxy Note 8 Wet Applied Screen Protector BUBBLE-FREE for Samsung Galaxy https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0756DBXWP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_xFOJgXZGMrAdo
This one seems a little less rubbery imho.
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Galaxy Note 8 Screen Protector [2-Pack][Not Glass], Yootech [Case Friendly] Galaxy Note 8 Wet Applied Screen Protector BUBBLE-FREE for Samsung Galaxy https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0756DBXWP/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_xFOJgXZGMrAdo
This one seems a little less rubbery imho.
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I did check that thanks! Only problem is that i live in EU (Finland) And Amazon will not ship that item to me.... Looked up in Ebay and they will add 20€+ to the original price...
Bummer tho,.
Hello, this is Whitestone.
I am so sorry that you had a terrible experience with our product. Air bubbles can be very frustrating on a new screen protector. We are constantly trying to solve the problem of air bubbles, and the seesaw type has drastically reduced it but not fully eliminated it.
I am very thankful for your patience to give our product three tries before you made your decision and also for a detailed feedback on what became wrong.
Since you have given a lot of effort on our product, we will try and help you out if you are willing to give our product another chance.
Feel free to contact us through here, or our homepage, or any social media.
Again I am terribly sorry.
Base TGSP is a piece of shot
That Jimmy guy sounds like an infomercial
Only use skinomi wet i stall protectors.
Use it before on my note edge 4. The spen did leave marks.
But with the note 8. I dont see any marks. So either the protector is better or the tips are softer
xile6 said:
Only use skinomi wet i stall protectors.
Use it before on my note edge 4. The spen did leave marks.
But with the note 8. I dont see any marks. So either the protector is better or the tips are softer
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do you forsee it lifting up on the edges? did you get the techskin one that comes in a twopack?
I'm currently going through a batch of clear protection film HD skins on my Note 8. Generally are average, but some dont cover the edges that well or some have too much orange peel, or some are not cut correctly. Typical chinese "dog" turd.
So far. Spigen, coverage is excellent, but suffer from a lot of orange peel. Illumi Shield , coverage is rubbish, one side ( left side ) is cut shorter than the other. But less orange peel.
Amovo front and back clear film, the worst ever. The pikeys didnt even inc a lubrication spray with their aggrssive adhesive film. Secondly the film that you remove to apply was stuck like gorilla glue to the actual film. You know, the tab that say "peel here first" and " peel here last".
I dont care less for the glass crap for curved screens, but in search of a half decent clear film currently. The search continues...
Limeybastard said:
I'm currently going through a batch of clear protection film HD skins on my Note 8. Generally are average, but some dont cover the edges that well or some have too much orange peel, or some are not cut correctly. Typical chinese "dog" turd.
So far. Spigen, coverage is excellent, but suffer from a lot of orange peel. Illumi Shield , coverage is rubbish, one side ( left side ) is cut shorter than the other. But less orange peel.
Amovo front and back clear film, the worst ever. The pikeys didnt even inc a lubrication spray with their aggrssive adhesive film. Secondly the film that you remove to apply was stuck like gorilla glue to the actual film. You know, the tab that say "peel here first" and " peel here last".
I dont care less for the glass crap for curved screens, but in search of a half decent clear film currently. The search continues...
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I'm looking at IQShield and Skinomi right now but don't have enough info to decide on one or the other. Would love to hear about your experiences with other non-TGSPs and if you ever come across one you would recommend.
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I'm looking at IQShield and Skinomi right now but don't have enough info to decide on one or the other. Would love to hear about your experiences with other non-TGSPs and if you ever come across one you would recommend.
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Im primarily using and trying non glass type films, similar to the stuff used to protect car paint protection. My background includes being able to apply paint protection film on cars so these are all from the same mold that I have been trying. BTW, heat of a hairdryer will aid in adhering the curved edges once applied- slight tip.
I have not tried IQShield yet, sorry. So far the Spigen one fitted well coverage wise,but their film is very aggressive in the orange peel front,
I might try Skinomi next, but I have heard they cut their films short to save a few bucks.
Lets liase and share our experiences with these type of films, cheers.
Thanks for all of you for the help and responses.
Yes the IQshield and Skinomi are on the top of my list... They are around 20€ including shipping to Finland from Ebay. A bit expensive but lets see....
Im currently using IQshield version 2 (case friendly) for about a week now.
I've done a lot of wet install before so i know what to expect using this type of screen protector. Its been a week now and so far no lifting on the curve part of the screen. it is smooth to touch, sensitivity is normal and very good. Im using a VRSdesign slim case and it works well, all corners fitted very well.
I also used skinomi before and if i remember it right IQshield is more smoother than skinomi in-terms of orange peel feeling. The only problem that is s-pen will leave marks when used with this kind of screen protector. (i tried it at the very bottom and its still have mark after a week)
I can give this IQshield a 7.5/10 score. LOL
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The whitstone does have pretty good responsiveness and all that good stuff. But the problem is the installation and even when i tried to be 100% accurate with the installation, it still greated air bubbles. And the fact that there is a HUGE risk that the glue when cured can cause damage to the screen.... More specifically if you manage to cure the glue when the glue is over the earpiece... you are ****ed with your 1000€ phone.
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I used the tip of placing painter's tape over the speaker. I covered the speaker enough to not interfere with the glass. It worked great! I do have three small bubbles after two tries but can't see them unless I try. My wife's has one bubble in about the same spot as mine. The lower left corner about 1/3 up the screen where the curve starts. There a number of ways to avoid the creation of bubbles. I couldn't say them all because I'm not an expert in LOCA glue and it's properties. Experimentation is the only way to find out.
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Hello, this is Whitestone.
I am so sorry that you had a terrible experience with our product. Air bubbles can be very frustrating on a new screen protector. We are constantly trying to solve the problem of air bubbles, and the seesaw type has drastically reduced it but not fully eliminated it.
I am very thankful for your patience to give our product three tries before you made your decision and also for a detailed feedback on what became wrong.
Since you have given a lot of effort on our product, we will try and help you out if you are willing to give our product another chance.
Feel free to contact us through here, or our homepage, or any social media.
Again I am terribly sorry.
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I am glad that you have started beeing more on forums and social media. I want to thank you for sending me a new one. Now i am waiting for it. Hope this time works.
To be honest, it will be difficult to actually get most tempered glass protectors to stay on this curved glass.. Its a pain and it sucks because I would actually like to get one. I just ordered the whitestore myself..., but they wont be in stock again until the 30th...
I got the PowerPeak Base and it is utter garbage. I lost atleast 30% touch sensitivity and then it just eventually slid off of my phone from me trying to swipe so hard. The middle actually dried up and there was nothing holding the middle to the phone.
I despise the wet installs. They are too soft and will leave indents as you said.. So really its either try tempered glass protectors until you find the one you want, go with indents and wet installs, or just go no screen protector like me!
I have the wet install spigen ones but I tbh would rather go with no protector than use them.
I ordered and installed this on my Note 8 : https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B074G1W2RC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Along with a Spigen Tough Armor case. It seems to work well and no real screen sensitivity issues either.
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do you forsee it lifting up on the edges? did you get the techskin one that comes in a twopack?
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I get the case friendly 2pack. And havent had problems with lifting.
Had my note 8 since sept 8 and been caseless and no lifting.
Anyone planning on using a cheap protector with LOCA glue needs to check the strength of the LOCA. Some have reported they were not able to remove the protector after using some LOCA glue.
I had 3 attempts at the Dome Glass myself. The first one I got had a broken bridge. I could not get the glue in the right spot. Whitestone refunded me. I bought the next set from Amazon. Everything was perfect until I peeled the plastic off the back of the protector. There must have been a fleck of dirt near the side. I did not see it as I did not have enough light.
I sent the second one back to Amazon and just had to pay return shipping. With the third one I took a different approach. I used a totally level counter top in the bathroom. I ran the shower with hot water for about 10 minutes so the whole bathroom was steamed up. This kept the dust down. I cleaned the phone screen and when I removed the plastic from the protector, it somehow grabbed another piece of dirt. Due to the extreme lighting, I saw it and removed it before installing. It installed perfectly with no dust/dirt or air bubbles. I did the first cure with the UV light then took it out of the jig and wiped the sides, top and bottom with an alcohol pad. I then did the final cure. Not one ounce of glue seeped out. I did not protect the speaker or anything else. If this is done perfectly, this is the absolute best protector available IMHO. The problem is anything short of a perfect install will drive many of us with OCD crazy.
On Monday we traded in my Mothers iPhone and she went with a Note 8. The Dome Glass arrived today. This time, perfect install the first time. I wish Whitestone would include 2 pieces of glass per package since this is the most expensive Note 8 protector. Their CS is a bit slow but they did take care of me in the end. It's a bit of a ripoff to sell the kit for 49 but then only sell the glass and one tube of glue for 39. The refill pack should be 15-20 at the highest.
After a week, none of my edges are lifting at all. Some may be using cases that are not compatible. My protector does not touch my case at anyplace. I think cases that touch the protector have a good chance of raising the edges. Even if the case looks fine after install, if grabbing it makes the case touch the glass, it will eventually lift and get bubbles.
Otao sent me their new screen protector for the Note 8, and I have to say, this is probably as good as it gets for normal stick on tempered glass protectors on this phone.
The box is pretty standard and comes with all the screen protector installation essentials.
The key to a good installation on any screen protector is making sure that your phone is clean and that you line up the protector perfectly. This is where the installation tray shines... I have installed protectors in the past on phones (feel free to look at old posts) and I can honestly say that this installation tray is the best one I have used... Initially I was worried because when I went to put the glass into it, it was tight. I thought maybe the sizes were off, but no, it was exactly the right size to make sure that there was very little to no wiggle room in there for the protector. This is good obviously because it only lets you put it in one spot, the right one.
Once you have it lined up, you just drop on the glass and make sure the edges are all the way down. (I just used the included microfiber cloth and went over them a few times.) Next you pop off the guide tray and you're done.
If you are using this screen protector without a case you will notice the increase in thickness, but it's not terrible. With a case however it fixes one of my biggest pet peeves.
You have to be careful when putting cases on when you have this screen protector installed because the bezels are so small on the phone that in order for it to actually protect the whole screen it goes pretty much all the way to the end. BUT this is awesome because the cases that I tried (ringke and rhinoshield) didn't knock off or move the screen protector, they came right up to the edge of it and sat almost flush. (I like this because I HATE when pocket lint gets caught between the protector and the case as I am sure many of you do.)
One thing I noticed is that while this protector does have the black bars all the way around it, it looks like they shrunk on the sides a little bit when compared to the Otao protector from the s8+. This makes it sort of a middle ground between the ones that have the clear sides but you can see the glue and the protectors that have black all the way around but cut off some of the screen. It's not perfect but I like how you don't lose much, if any of the screen real estate and you can only see a little bit of the adhesive.
Overall I would say that this screen protector (so far) is pretty legit. I haven't noticed any loss in sensitivity, no rainbowing, no clicking and no covering over any sensors. The dot matrix is visible under certain lighting conditions but that is to be expected.
I only just installed this protector and will update this post if anything goes wrong or changes, but if this is like my S8+ version, i'm sure I won't have any issues.
If you have any questions or anything let me know and i'll try to respond and get them answered.
Gurule92 said:
Otao sent me their new screen protector for the Note 8, and I have to say, this is probably as good as it gets for normal stick on tempered glass protectors on this phone.
The box is pretty standard and comes with all the screen protector installation essentials.
The key to a good installation on any screen protector is making sure that your phone is clean and that you line up the protector perfectly. This is where the installation tray shines... I have installed protectors in the past on phones (feel free to look at old posts) and I can honestly say that this installation tray is the best one I have used... Initially I was worried because when I went to put the glass into it, it was tight. I thought maybe the sizes were off, but no, it was exactly the right size to make sure that there was very little to no wiggle room in there for the protector. This is good obviously because it only lets you put it in one spot, the right one.
Once you have it lined up, you just drop on the glass and make sure the edges are all the way down. (I just used the included microfiber cloth and went over them a few times.) Next you pop off the guide tray and you're done.
If you are using this screen protector without a case you will notice the increase in thickness, but it's not terrible. With a case however it fixes one of my biggest pet peeves.
You have to be careful when putting cases on when you have this screen protector installed because the bezels are so small on the phone that in order for it to actually protect the whole screen it goes pretty much all the way to the end. BUT this is awesome because the cases that I tried (ringke and rhinoshield) didn't knock off or move the screen protector, they came right up to the edge of it and sat almost flush. (I like this because I HATE when pocket lint gets caught between the protector and the case as I am sure many of you do.)
One thing I noticed is that while this protector does have the black bars all the way around it, it looks like they shrunk on the sides a little bit when compared to the Otao protector from the s8+. This makes it sort of a middle ground between the ones that have the clear sides but you can see the glue and the protectors that have black all the way around but cut off some of the screen. It's not perfect but I like how you don't lose much, if any of the screen real estate and you can only see a little bit of the adhesive.
Overall I would say that this screen protector (so far) is pretty legit. I haven't noticed any loss in sensitivity, no rainbowing, no clicking and no covering over any sensors. The dot matrix is visible under certain lighting conditions but that is to be expected.
I only just installed this protector and will update this post if anything goes wrong or changes, but if this is like my S8+ version, i'm sure I won't have any issues.
If you have any questions or anything let me know and i'll try to respond and get them answered.
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[Installation Tray] Galaxy Note 8 Screen Protector, OTAO 3D Tempered Glass Screen protector [case friendly] 9H Hardness Tough Sensitivity Samsung screen protector Note 8
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075XKZX3Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_nEZbAbFG3Z0DK
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badrsj said:
Product...
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But you really don't need to quote the whole OP post again...
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Hadn't realized that
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Does it work with UAG cases? like the Monarch or the Plasma? those case really kills most TG protectors. even the domeglass. if you didnt put it on perfect, you can say 45 bucks byebye.
thanks.
OutCastedSheep said:
Does it work with UAG cases? like the Monarch or the Plasma? those case really kills most TG protectors. even the domeglass. if you didnt put it on perfect, you can say 45 bucks byebye.
thanks.
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I made the Whitestone Dome work with the UAG PLASMA AND PLYO. With a Dremel and sanding the corners. The PLASMA is my flavored case for looks and protection.
OutCastedSheep said:
Does it work with UAG cases? like the Monarch or the Plasma? those case really kills most TG protectors. even the domeglass. if you didnt put it on perfect, you can say 45 bucks byebye.
thanks.
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I don't have any UAG cases but it can't be bigger in the front then rhinoshield can it? I would guess itd work but can't say for sure
OutCastedSheep said:
Does it work with UAG cases? like the Monarch or the Plasma? those case really kills most TG protectors. even the domeglass. if you didnt put it on perfect, you can say 45 bucks byebye.
thanks.
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If it's the corners you're worried about they come in pretty good. Check out the pic
So is it a full adhesive protector?
Sokudoningyou said:
So is it a full adhesive protector?
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I don't think it is. I see micro dots in one of the pictures.
Sokudoningyou said:
So is it a full adhesive protector?
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Nope sadly its not. But its still not bad for what it is
What Sh!ts me off the most is that here in Oz NOTHING can be delivered...
If I want it delivered I have to use a redirect service thaty will add anywhere from $5 to $20 to send it....:crying:
ultramag69 said:
What Sh!ts me off the most is that here in Oz NOTHING can be delivered...
If I want it delivered I have to use a redirect service thaty will add anywhere from $5 to $20 to send it....:crying:
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That's unfortunate. 5 bucks isn't too bad. But 20. Nahh
says out of stock, how much was it?
OutCastedSheep said:
Does it work with UAG cases? like the Monarch or the Plasma? those case really kills most TG protectors. even the domeglass. if you didnt put it on perfect, you can say 45 bucks byebye.
thanks.
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This one fits, the one from the OP 100% no, the corner rounding isn't flat enough. If you compare both on the pictures you'll see.
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B075YPSQSY/..._9w3aAb97J1R50
On Amazon.com it is available too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075Y...k+note+8&psc=1
pappschlumpf said:
This one fits, the one from the OP 100% no, the corner rounding isn't flat enough. If you compare both on the pictures you'll see.
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B075YPSQSY/..._9w3aAb97J1R50
On Amazon.com it is available too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075Y...k+note+8&psc=1
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Is this full adhesive, or just the edges?
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Is this full adhesive, or just the edges?
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Edge only. Forget about full adhesive, except whitestone. I've ordered two classic full adhesive @ AliExpress. A joke Bubbles, not adhering properly on the right and left side. And well the UAG wouldn't have fit with both too. Opened a dispute for both and got my money back.
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I've looked for the past 2 days now and I cannot for the life of me find a decently priced FULL ADHESIVE (tempered glass) screen protector. I ordered a "bubble free" and it looks like garbage, only the edges have adhesive so it's not fully on, it definitely was not tempered glass, and when it's off you can see the rainbow effect.
I'm just confused because the last phone I had was a Note 5 and it wasn't that hard to find a tempered glass screen protector, we didn't have "adhesive edges" back then so all you had to do was spray a bit of water and card out any bubbles. I just upgraded to a Note 8, is this really so hard to find?
I did check out Finally, Tempered glass inexpensive full back adhesive for the Note Post and they do not sell the same product anymore.
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
franlando said:
I've looked for the past 2 days now and I cannot for the life of me find a decently priced FULL ADHESIVE (tempered glass) screen protector. I ordered a "bubble free" and it looks like garbage, only the edges have adhesive so it's not fully on, it definitely was not tempered glass, and when it's off you can see the rainbow effect.
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I'm just confused because the last phone I had was a Note 5 and it wasn't that hard to find a tempered glass screen protector, we didn't have "adhesive edges" back then so all you had to do was spray a bit of water and card out any bubbles. I just upgraded to a Note 8, is this really so hard to find?
I did check out Finally, Tempered glass inexpensive full back adhesive for the Note Post and they do not sell the same product anymore.
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
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There are some on Amazon(UK), but they're nigh on impossible to put on without creating bubbles.
Personally I prefer the end result from the ones that you don't like. Maybe I've been lucky but these are what I use on my Note 8, my daughter's Note 9 and my wife's S9. Never spent more than £2.50 on one.
What you realise with experience, is that these will crack sooner rather than later they're all the same bar a minor tweak, 3 - 4 months and you'll be replacing them anyway.
Save your money.
i use this and i am very happy..!
it is a uv glue tempered glass like whitestone but a lot cheaper. (i have used whitestone doom in the past and i put them in the same quality)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-Sams...d7cc3eb20:m:mORLJDIrICxslUiTcMTsP8A:rk:2:pf:0
Im used whitestone dom. Its really expensive but best. No word..
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WHITESTO...405940&hash=item33f5c2c44c:g:E8QAAOSwSDxbrgwa
If you do a search on Amazon, you will some really good full adhesive tempered glass screen protectors for your Note 8.
iceepyon said:
If you do a search on Amazon, you will some really good full adhesive tempered glass screen protectors for your Note 8.
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The one I ordered WAS from amazon, but it was complete garbage, imagine taking 15$ and just putting it straight into the trash can. Did you have any specific recommendation or..
I have spent well over $60 on screen protectors.. Given up.
So annoyed with the curved screens. May even change brand
andreasarxon said:
i use this and i am very happy..!
it is a uv glue tempered glass like whitestone but a lot cheaper. (i have used whitestone doom in the past and i put them in the same quality)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-Sams...d7cc3eb20:m:mORLJDIrICxslUiTcMTsP8A:rk:2:pf:0
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Gonna try this, thanks!
franlando said:
I've looked for the past 2 days now and I cannot for the life of me find a decently priced FULL ADHESIVE (tempered glass) screen protector. I ordere3d a "bubble free" and it looks like garbage, only the edges have adhesive so it's not fully on, it definitely was not tempered glass, and when it's off you can see the rainbow effect.
I'm just confused because the last phone I had was a Note 5 and it wasn't that hard to find a tempered glass screen protector, we didn't have "adhesive edges" back then so all you had to do was spray a bit of water and card out any bubbles. I just upgraded to a Note 8, is this really so hard to find?
I did check out Finally, Tempered glass inexpensive full back adhesive for the Note Post and they do not sell the same product anymore.
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
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Good luck finding anything that will come factory with "full adhesive" I have tried every type in the book short of the over priced white dome. I ended up finding a perfect solution (for me) though a 3D or 4D"d Temp glass protector as its advertised anyways... i think they're all pretty much the same at the point of "D" in the description but that being said they are only like 6 bucks a piece for a full cover option i opted for with out the whole top section cut out around the speakers and camera. They were only edged adhesive but the trick is to use the LOCA glue to adhere it to the phone... I am aware its for LCD screen repairs but if you get the 2500 viscosity its a lot thicker and it never fully cures even under a black light but it has the right amount of stickiness to stay on the phone seamlessly on my note 8 and have no popping or issues with input of the s pen, Its great! the corners dont lift even its on there good. Yes ive cracked and had to replace them before so i can vouch they are remove-able. I will add if they are on there a long time that around the bottom center where you usually touch the screen the most it can be a pain in the ass to get it separated.. Ive found that 91% rubbing alcohol and a fresh clean razor blade window scrapper lifts it off without scratching the screen. Hope this helps
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Good luck finding anything that will come factory with "full adhesive" I have tried every type in the book short of the over priced white dome. I ended up finding a perfect solution (for me) though a 3D or 4D"d Temp glass protector as its advertised anyways... i think they're all pretty much the same at the point of "D" in the description but that being said they are only like 6 bucks a piece for a full cover option i opted for with out the whole top section cut out around the speakers and camera. They were only edged adhesive but the trick is to use the LOCA glue to adhere it to the phone... I am aware its for LCD screen repairs but if you get the 2500 viscosity its a lot thicker and it never fully cures even under a black light but it has the right amount of stickiness to stay on the phone seamlessly on my note 8 and have no popping or issues with input of the s pen, Its great! the corners dont lift even its on there good. Yes ive cracked and had to replace them before so i can vouch they are remove-able. I will add if they are on there a long time that around the bottom center where you usually touch the screen the most it can be a pain in the ass to get it separated.. Ive found that 91% rubbing alcohol and a fresh clean razor blade window scrapper lifts it off without scratching the screen. Hope this helps
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Thanks for sharing the info, but do you mind posting a link?
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Thanks for sharing the info, but do you mind posting a link?
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Yeah sorry here they are..........
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/332744157134
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/271328437299
Look for the one which comes with UV light and UV activated adhesive.
There is plain glass with back side laminated sheet which needs to be peeled off. A UV activated glue that is liquid and needs to go on the screen over which the glass is placed.
Then its all like spreading butter between toasts. You must apply little pressure so it spreads over entire screen then use the UV light to harden it.
Its the best i have found yet after nearly 10 screen protector. It need expertise and is not for the faint of heart. Good luck
sandeepkumar0153 said:
Look for the one which comes with UV light and UV activated adhesive.
There is plain glass with back side laminated sheet which needs to be peeled off. A UV activated glue that is liquid and needs to go on the screen over which the glass is placed.
Then its all like spreading butter between toasts. You must apply little pressure so it spreads over entire screen then use the UV light to harden it.
Its the best i have found yet after nearly 10 screen protector. It need expertise and is not for the faint of heart. Good luck
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I would have to say shy away from applying pressure as it pushes the glue out of areas causing an uneven layer of glue & possibly bubbles. If you put a 50 cent size globon one end of it and tip the phone towards the opposing end it will run down the phone and as your doing that you just let the screen protector drop onto the glue ever so slightly from one end to the other and just let it spread it will eventually spread every time if you use enough glue.... cover up your speakers with tape. Just my Insite an experience with using pressure and not using pressure. Otherwise good advice
Liftkit said:
I would have to say shy away from applying pressure as it pushes the glue out of areas causing an uneven layer of glue & possibly bubbles. If you put a Big Blob on one end of it and tip the phone towards the opposing and it will run down the phone and as you doing that you just let the screen protector drop onto the glue ever so slightly from one end to the other and just let it spread it will eventually spread every time if you use enough glue. Just my Insite an experience with using pressure and not using pressure. Otherwise good advice
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Nice, i faced issue when i dropped glue and put on the screen guard. It never went till the corners, even after adding more glue in second attempt. So i pressed a little and it went all the way to the edges.
Maybe im dropping glue in centre. I will try your method of starting from corner next time. Thanks :good:
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Yeah sorry here they are..........
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/332744157134
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/271328437299
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Out of curiosity can you take a picture of it after installation? Because those black edge lines make me skeptical.
franlando said:
Out of curiosity can you take a picture of it after installation? Because those black edge lines make me skeptical.
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Skeptical of what?
andreasarxon said:
i use this and i am very happy..!
it is a uv glue tempered glass like whitestone but a lot cheaper. (i have used whitestone doom in the past and i put them in the same quality)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/For-Sams...d7cc3eb20:m:mORLJDIrICxslUiTcMTsP8A:rk:2:pf:0
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I got mine today. The setup was easy. Lest see how this holds up. Im very happy with this product, the best that I've tried so far.
Everyone should really get this instead of the whitestone!
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Yeah sorry here they are..........
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Do you use cases? Maybe you have alcantara and protective standing? Does this custom glued screen protector have any issues applying cases? Thanx
I don't like screen protectors but I saw prices for screen replacement in services - it's just crazy.
ler01 said:
Do you use cases? Maybe you have alcantara and protective standing? Does this custom glued screen protector have any issues applying cases? Thanx
I don't like screen protectors but I saw prices for screen replacement in services - it's just crazy.
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If you use certain cases yes they will have issues, actually at least half of the ones Ive tried have caused the protector to lift. Also the glue that i use is not made for screen protectors, its for LCD screens replacements. THat being said its just 2500 LOCA glue. You MUST buy the 2500 or higher cuz anything lower in viscosity will make it near impossible to remove when it comes time to change out the screen proector
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ler01 said:
Do you use cases? Maybe you have alcantara and protective standing? Does this custom glued screen protector have any issues applying cases? Thanx
I don't like screen protectors but I saw prices for screen replacement in services - it's just crazy.
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If you use certain cases yes they will have issues, actually at least half of the ones Ive tried have caused the protector to lift. Also the glue that i use is not made for screen protectors, its for LCD screens replacements. THat being said its just 2500 LOCA glue. You MUST buy the 2500 or higher cuz anything lower in viscosity will make it near impossible to remove when it comes time to change out the screen protector. Also the one case that i highly recommend for a glass screen protector and over all proection and looks, feel the whole 9 yards is the POETIC brand case Its perfect in eery way IMO.
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If you use certain cases yes they will have issues, actually at least half of the ones Ive tried have caused the protector to lift. Also the glue that i use is not made for screen protectors, its for LCD screens replacements. THat being said its just 2500 LOCA glue. You MUST buy the 2500 or higher cuz anything lower in viscosity will make it near impossible to remove when it comes time to change out the screen proector
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If you use certain cases yes they will have issues, actually at least half of the ones Ive tried have caused the protector to lift. Also the glue that i use is not made for screen protectors, its for LCD screens replacements. THat being said its just 2500 LOCA glue. You MUST buy the 2500 or higher cuz anything lower in viscosity will make it near impossible to remove when it comes time to change out the screen protector. Also the one case that i highly recommend for a glass screen protector and over all proection and looks, feel the whole 9 yards is the POETIC brand case Its perfect in eery way IMO.
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I will second this. It can be a pain to remove some of the loca at times