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hey guys just bought this m7 device now i need your help to choce the right rom for me. im looking for performences over futers, stock on the lates android ( 6 i think )
What model are you running, AT&T, Sprint, Verizon or T-Mobile?
fireball0093 said:
What model are you running, AT&T, Sprint, Verizon or T-Mobile?
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european
Burllz said:
european
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Ok, so the international model. So if you want stock Android 6.x, my personal recommendations are Android Ice Cold Project (AICP), it's very feature rich while being as close to stock as possible and it has nightly updates. It also has really great performance and battery life, I haven't had any lag and get at least a day out of my battery. There's also Cyanogenmod 13 although it hasn't been updated for a month or so to my knowledge. And lastly another good one is crDroid. I personally recommend AICP because of the almost daily updates, and features, I have it installed on both my M7 and Nexus 4. I haven't had any issues and if there is an issue it's normally fixed the following update.
fireball0093 said:
Ok, so the international model. So if you want stock Android 6.x, my personal recommendations are Android Ice Cold Project (AICP), it's very feature rich while being as close to stock as possible and it has nightly updates. It also has really great performance and battery life, I haven't had any lag and get at least a day out of my battery. There's also Cyanogenmod 13 although it hasn't been updated for a month or so to my knowledge. And lastly another good one is crDroid. I personally recommend AICP because of the almost daily updates, and features, I have it installed on both my M7 and Nexus 4. I haven't had any issues and if there is an issue it's normally fixed the following update.
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ok thanks. what about android 5 ? are these google play editions any better then other custum roms?
Burllz said:
ok thanks. what about android 5 ? are these google play editions any better then other custum roms?
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Android Lollipop with the Google Play Editions are pretty much what you'd get on the stock Nexus experience. A lot of Google apps, and pure stock Lollipop without any modifications. Some do have some modifications to them, and some don't.
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Android Lollipop with the Google Play Editions are pretty much what you'd get on the stock Nexus experience. A lot of Google apps, and pure stock Lollipop without any modifications. Some do have some modifications to them, and some don't.
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seems like marshmewllow is too bugy so ill try the lollipop roms, any sugestions?
Burllz said:
seems like marshmewllow is too bugy so ill try the lollipop roms, any sugestions?
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Cyanogenmod 12.1 is really the only Lollipop ROM that I have used other than the Sense 7 roms, they have almost nightly updates for their Lollipop builds. Google Play Edition+ is another great one for 5.x, you can pick between stock Play Edition and the developer's custom build packed with features.
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Cyanogenmod 12.1 is really the only Lollipop ROM that I have used other than the Sense 7 roms, they have almost nightly updates for their Lollipop builds. Google Play Edition+ is another great one for 5.x, you can pick between stock Play Edition and the developer's custom build packed with features.
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okay, i found a rom that suits my needs. now i want to dual boot some kitkat rom and karbon as main rom with multy rom. the problem is that multry rom gives me this error "kernel doesnt have kexec-hardboot patch". seems like i need diferent kenal but i cant find any costum kernel for 5.1.1 ? or can i patch the kernal ?
Burllz said:
okay, i found a rom that suits my needs. now i want to dual boot some kitkat rom and karbon as main rom with multy rom. the problem is that multry rom gives me this error "kernel doesnt have kexec-hardboot patch". seems like i need diferent kenal but i cant find any costum kernel for 5.1.1 ? or can i patch the kernal ?
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If your primary rom is Sense-based then simply download this kernel, ElementalX, and flash it to your main rom. It has some pretty good features too that you can pick from during the installation. There also is a GPE build for Play Edition roms as well. Reboot into the rom just to make sure everything flashed smoothly, and then reboot and you can then boot into your different roms in multi boot. Just make sure that if you change your main rom in Multiboot that it has to have this kernel, I haven't found any other one that supports it. There also aren't any Marshmallow kernels just yet either, sadly.
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If your primary rom is Sense-based then simply download this kernel, ElementalX, and flash it to your main rom. It has some pretty good features too that you can pick from during the installation. There also is a GPE build for Play Edition roms as well. Reboot into the rom just to make sure everything flashed smoothly, and then reboot and you can then boot into your different roms in multi boot. Just make sure that if you change your main rom in Multiboot that it has to have this kernel, I haven't found any other one that supports it. There also aren't any Marshmallow kernels just yet either, sadly.
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its cm based, i dont think this kernel will work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/development/rom-t3066364
Burllz said:
its cm based, i dont think this kernel will work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/development/rom-t3066364
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Hmm. I'm currently busy until around 10-11pm EST, whenever I get done and back home I will take a look around to see if there might be anything. If it's Marshmallow based though there isn't any custom kernels yet. Wouldn't hurt to make like a GPE or Sense rom your primary one and simply leave it there, I do that. I use MIUI 7 as my daily driver but I have InsertCoin Sense 7 installed for my main rom so I can have 2-3 other roms installed. Just some advice if that helps
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Hmm. I'm currently busy until around 10-11pm EST, whenever I get done and back home I will take a look around to see if there might be anything. If it's Marshmallow based though there isn't any custom kernels yet. Wouldn't hurt to make like a GPE or Sense rom your primary one and simply leave it there, I do that. I use MIUI 7 as my daily driver but I have InsertCoin Sense 7 installed for my main rom so I can have 2-3 other roms installed. Just some advice if that helps
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okay, im on carbon rom , cm based, 5.1.1 . thanks mate!
Burllz said:
okay, im on carbon rom , cm based, 5.1.1 . thanks mate!
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I think, what would work best for you since you prefer stock-based roms, is download the Google Play Edition+ I linked earlier in the thread, install it as a secondary rom and also flash the ElementalX kernel under Flash Zip. Afterwards go under Advanced, Multirom, Swap Rom, and leave it as Swap primary and pick the GPE+ and let it run it's course. Might take 5-10 minutes so I'd leave it plugged in and charging if you are below 50-60% battery. Then just boot into GPE+, do a quick setup and leave it as a basic installation. That way you can keep your Carbon Rom installation with all of the data and apps, and just pick that every time you boot your phone. Plus it's easier than messing around with different kernels on Carbon trying to find one to make it work and you have a fallback stock rom in case an update or something messes up Carbon. That's exactly what I did with MIUI and InsertCoin.
fireball0093 said:
I think, what would work best for you since you prefer stock-based roms, is download the Google Play Edition+ I linked earlier in the thread, install it as a secondary rom and also flash the ElementalX kernel under Flash Zip. Afterwards go under Advanced, Multirom, Swap Rom, and leave it as Swap primary and pick the GPE+ and let it run it's course. Might take 5-10 minutes so I'd leave it plugged in and charging if you are below 50-60% battery. Then just boot into GPE+, do a quick setup and leave it as a basic installation. That way you can keep your Carbon Rom installation with all of the data and apps, and just pick that every time you boot your phone. Plus it's easier than messing around with different kernels on Carbon trying to find one to make it work and you have a fallback stock rom in case an update or something messes up Carbon. That's exactly what I did with MIUI and InsertCoin.
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okay thats what im going to do. i have one last question - is it normal for the cpu to run at 35-40C at all times when i use the phone? also the back cover is always warm sometimes gets hot without any havy tasks?
Burllz said:
okay thats what im going to do. i have one last question - is it normal for the cpu to run at 35-40C at all times when i use the phone? also the back cover is always warm sometimes gets hot without any havy tasks?
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Yeah, that happens sometimes with mine. Not all the time though, mainly when I'm streaming music in Spotify or Pandora, or if I've been on it for 10-15 minutes on Twitter, email, etc. Sometimes when installing a rom and first booting it, it gets upwards of 50C but cools down after I let it sit for a little while. Also, just throwing it out there because I love the app, if you have $7 you're willing to spend MyBackup Pro is fantastic for backing up everything if you change the rom you use the most. Like data, apps with the app data (not every app backs up the data though) and just like everything else. There's also a free one if you don't care about app data which I'd actually recommend trying that out first. Spares a hell of a lot of time for downloading apps every time. I promise I am no way affiliated with them, like I really feel bad "advertising" them even though I'm not. It's just my favorite backup app xD. Titanium backup is another good one but I haven't used it's backup stuff. Mods you can feel free to edit this if you don't see it fit.
Hi everyone,
I've jusdt purchased a Xiaomi MI5 for my girlfriend and have been trying to build my knowledge of how to install TWRP, root it, and add Cyanogenmod. I think I've managed to get all of the information that I need, but I would just like to check it with your good selves before I go ahead.
The phone currently has the global stable rom installed, and I understand that I need to flash over that before I can get the bootloader unlocked, and I can do so by using the built in "updater" app to flash the rom that will allow the BL unlock.
QUESTION: What is the best Rom to use? Can I unlock bootloader with a Global Dev Rom, or does it need to be a China Variant?
Once I have flashed a rom that will allow the bootloader to be unlocked, I need to follow the unlocking procedure, wait for it to be authorised by Xiaomi, then use the Mi Unlock tool.
From there, I can flash TWRP via fastboot, and once that is done, flash CM, and finally SuperSU.
Have I got all of that right, my friends, or would anyone else do anything differently?
Much obliged for all the help that I have received in the past from the good folk on XDA. If I've been able to perceive the correct course of action, it's only because I've stood on the shoulders of you giants.
Best regards,
p.s. Believe it or not, I'm still using an antiquated Samsung Galaxy Media Player 5.0, and having had a quick play with the MI5, it feels like adanced alien technology in comparison. Very snappy indeed and I'm feeling quite jealous of the Missus.
One step at the time then fellas. To get bootloader unlock I must be on a dev rom. Can I flash straight to Global Dev using the "Updater" app? thanks
imgettingold said:
One step at the time then fellas. To get bootloader unlock I must be on a dev rom. Can I flash straight to Global Dev using the "Updater" app? thanks
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If you are on stable rom you can't flash developer rom via Updater app. You can do it only via fastboot using MiFlash tool. About what development rom you should use, Global or China, China version is the best shot. At the of the day makes no difference. You still need to download any of them and anyway China version have english language. So using it for a while until you manage to unlock your bootloader shouldn't be an issue.
On another matter now... In your first post you was talking about installing CM. My advice from my own experience is to stay on MIUI for now. CM 14.1 is still on early stages of development. As of today MIUI 8.1 is way more stable than CM. There's absolutely no comparison between camera quality. Battery last longer and performance wise, on my usage (Facebook, Messenger, Whatsapp, lots of browsing, lots of hours of playing Need for Speed No Limits and Vainglory) there's no difference between MIUI and CM14.1. So far photos quality is way lower on CM, video recording buggy (i don't know if it's fixed in last build), some people are complaining about Bluetooth issues... Anyway...is your girlfriend willing to flash nightly CM builds on a daily basis? Mine for sure would throw the phone through the window lol.
Yes I know that "legend" is saying that CM roms are snapier and more customisable than stock roms. Not the case for CM14.1, at least not yet... Customisation wise what you can do on CM14.1 you can do on MIUI 8. And theme engine is not ready for CM14.1 yet...so much about customisation. On MIUI8 the theme engine works just fine and the themes collection is quite large.
If you chose to stay on MIUI i assume you'll want a debloated rom. My advice is to go for xiaomi.eu roms. Xiaomi.eu roms are based on China versions (China versions gets updates more often than global version) without bloatware.
At fist , you must be using MIflash tool to get bootloader unlock.Next to install TWRP.
vladimir_carlan said:
If you are on stable rom you can't flash developer rom via Updater app. You can do it only via fastboot using MiFlash tool. About what development rom you should use, Global or China, China version is the best shot. At the of the day makes no difference. You still need to download any of them and anyway China version have english language. So using it for a while until you manage to unlock your bootloader shouldn't be an issue.
On another matter now... In your first post you was talking about installing CM. My advice from my own experience is to stay on MIUI for now. CM 14.1 is still on early stages of development. As of today MIUI 8.1 is way more stable than CM. There's absolutely no comparison between camera quality. Battery last longer and performance wise, on my usage (Facebook, Messenger, Whatsapp, lots of browsing, lots of hours of playing Need for Speed No Limits and Vainglory) there's no difference between MIUI and CM14.1. So far photos quality is way lower on CM, video recording buggy (i don't know if it's fixed in last build), some people are complaining about Bluetooth issues... Anyway...is your girlfriend willing to flash nightly CM builds on a daily basis? Mine for sure would throw the phone through the window lol.
Yes I know that "legend" is saying that CM roms are snapier and more customisable than stock roms. Not the case for CM14.1, at least not yet... Customisation wise what you can do on CM14.1 you can do on MIUI 8. And theme engine is not ready for CM14.1 yet...so much about customisation. On MIUI8 the theme engine works just fine and the themes collection is quite large.
If you chose to stay on MIUI i assume you'll want a debloated rom. My advice is to go for xiaomi.eu roms. Xiaomi.eu roms are based on China versions (China versions gets updates more often than global version) without bloatware.
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Thank you Vladimir for your considered and thoughtful reply.
I had thought about using miflash, but the instructions here:
http://en.miui.com/a-234.html
state, "Click here to download MiFlash. If your device is locked. please click here to unlock it first. "
Since I want to flash a dev rom in order to unlock, the instructions to unlock and then flash made no sense to me. It is okay to go from Global stable (8.0.2.0 MAAMIDG, in my case) to China Dev 6.12.15 via MiFlash and I can do this with a regular USB-c cable and not a deepflash cable, is this correct?
I think you make a good point about CM 14.1 not being ready for prime time. I think my girlfriend would prefer the graphical touches of MIUI 8 in any event. Can you confirm that I can use xiaomi.eu rom with root, twrp and x-posed network if needed. That should do for now.
Thanks again, my friend. I anticipate your reply.
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...r-xiaomi-mi5-unlocked-bl-only-released.31231/
If you chose method 1 (fastboot) you'll end with TWRP installed aswell. From there just flash SuperSu and done. After that you can update via updater app to last version. My advice is to stay away from Nougat for now. Is still under development and all additions are just under the hood. No new features. If you have any issues with unlocking the bootloader you can literally ask in any thread...the community is more active there. And unlike XDA you won't get an "wrong thread stupid!" or an "use the search button damn it!".
Xposed works just fine but you need this version http://en.miui.com/thread-273424-1-1.html
About CM14.1 don't get me wrong...things are moving fast. And the progress made in just 2-3 weeks its amazing. I just don't think it is what it should be on a gifted phone.
-Hey babe! Merry Xmas! This is your Xmas present: a brand new Xiaomi MI5!.
-Awww...thanks hun! Anything i should know about this phone babe?
-Ummmm...yes...
-What?
-The selfies you are going to take...
-What about my selfies?
-Not really Facebook/Instagram ready...and you know? Sometimes if you switch off WiFi data connection won't work... But it's all good...you just need to turn on and off airplane mode
-Ummmm...ok. I assume I'm happy with your Xmas gift
Time is passing...few days later, New Year Day...your girlfriend wants to take a look at the videos she recorded at New Years Eve party....suddenly...
-Baaaaaaaaaabe!
-What!?
- I can't find my videos from last night
- Ummm...i forgot to tell you something
- What????
- Video recording is broken...
vladimir_carlan said:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...r-xiaomi-mi5-unlocked-bl-only-released.31231/
If you chose method 1 (fastboot) you'll end with TWRP installed aswell. From there just flash SuperSu and done. After that you can update via updater app to last version. My advice is to stay away from Nougat for now. Is still under development and all additions are just under the hood. No new features. If you have any issues with unlocking the bootloader you can literally ask in any thread...the community is more active there. And unlike XDA you won't get an "wrong thread stupid!" or an "use the search button damn it!".
Xposed works just fine but you need this version http://en.miui.com/thread-273424-1-1.html
About CM14.1 don't get me wrong...things are moving fast. And the progress made in just 2-3 weeks its amazing. I just don't think it is what it should be on a gifted phone.
-Hey babe! Merry Xmas! This is your Xmas present: a brand new Xiaomi MI5!.
-Awww...thanks hun! Anything i should know about this phone babe?
-Ummmm...yes...
-What?
-The selfies you are going to take...
-What about my selfies?
-Not really Facebook/Instagram ready...and you know? Sometimes if you switch off WiFi data connection won't work... But it's all good...you just need to turn on and off airplane mode
-Ummmm...ok. I assume I'm happy with your Xmas gift
Time is passing...few days later, New Year Day...your girlfriend wants to take a look at the videos she recorded at New Years Eve party....suddenly...
-Baaaaaaaaaabe!
-What!?
- I can't find my videos from last night
- Ummm...i forgot to tell you something
- What????
- Video recording is broken...
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Thanks again for your reply, Vladimir. The nice thing about the MI5 is that MIUI has had time to have some of the bugs ironed out so I agree that it would be foolish to jump straight into CM 14.1 without giving it time to mature. My girlfriend cares not one bit for technical things and, you're right, would not understand why things don't work properly and would think that I had bought her a lemon of a phone.
Can I ask you one more thing, my friend? The more I read (and with your help) the more I learn, but I am always coming across contradictions. For example, I thought with a locked bootloader one had to use a deepflash cable to overwrite the bootloader via MiFlash and fastboot. Here are the instructions I found which clearly delineate between unlocked bootloader and normal usb cable, and locked bootloader with deepflash engineering cable.
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-flash-miui-global-stable-rom-on-mi-5-running-china-stable-rom/
Is this the only way to go to China Dev rom i.e. do I need to order a deepflash cable? I am confused.
Thanks again for all your help, I can assure you it is very much appreciated especially the part about flashing the EU rom with TWRP. That sounds just what I need.
Cheers,
p.s. thanks for pointing me to the right xposed module too!
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One step at the time then fellas. To get bootloader unlock I must be on a dev rom. Can I flash straight to Global Dev using the "Updater" app? thanks
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imgettingold said:
Thanks again for your reply, Vladimir. The nice thing about the MI5 is that MIUI has had time to have some of the bugs ironed out so I agree that it would be foolish to jump straight into CM 14.1 without giving it time to mature. My girlfriend cares not one bit for technical things and, you're right, would not understand why things don't work properly and would think that I had bought her a lemon of a phone.
Can I ask you one more thing, my friend? The more I read (and with your help) the more I learn, but I am always coming across contradictions. For example, I thought with a locked bootloader one had to use a deepflash cable to overwrite the bootloader via MiFlash and fastboot. Here are the instructions I found which clearly delineate between unlocked bootloader and normal usb cable, and locked bootloader with deepflash engineering cable.
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-flash-miui-global-stable-rom-on-mi-5-running-china-stable-rom/
Is this the only way to go to China Dev rom i.e. do I need to order a deepflash cable? I am confused.
Thanks again for all your help, I can assure you it is very much appreciated especially the part about flashing the EU rom with TWRP. That sounds just what I need.
Cheers,
p.s. thanks for pointing me to the right xposed module too!
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My bad. You need MI PC Suite. Here is a guide:
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-fix-bricked-mi-5-with-locked-bootloader-and-update-to-global-rom/
Don't pay attention to the "bricked device" in the title. The procedure is the same. This is what I used to go from the fake rom to chinese dev one. Keep in mind that you need to download RECOVERY roms and in MI PC Suite you need to chose RECOVERY FLASH (R.Flash).
Ahh, now it makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Apologies for the slight delay in getting back to you Vladimir. I've typed up two verbose replies and lost them because XDA logged me out whilst writing them so I'll keep this one brief.
You emphasized using the recovery ROM, but do you have a link perchance for the china dev recovery as I've only been able to find a link for the global stable rom in flashboot and recovery flavours. The only link I have for china dev is this one
http://en.miui.com/download-299.html#435
and that does not specify recovery, so flashboot should be assumed?
Thanks again, friend, and wishing you (and your girlfriend) a Merry Christmas whilst I have your ear.
imgettingold said:
Ahh, now it makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Apologies for the slight delay in getting back to you Vladimir. I've typed up two verbose replies and lost them because XDA logged me out whilst writing them so I'll keep this one brief.
You emphasized using the recovery ROM, but do you have a link perchance for the china dev recovery as I've only been able to find a link for the global stable rom in flashboot and recovery flavours. The only link I have for china dev is this one
http://en.miui.com/download-299.html#435
and that does not specify recovery, so flashboot should be assumed?
Thanks again, friend, and wishing you (and your girlfriend) a Merry Christmas whilst I have your ear.
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If I remember correctly, when you do R.Flash in MI PC Suite you can chose the MIUI Version (Stable or Dev) and the download will be made automatically.
imgettingold said:
The phone currently has the global stable rom installed, and I understand that I need to flash over that before I can get the bootloader unlocked, and I can do so by using the built in "updater" app to flash the rom that will allow the BL unlock.
QUESTION: What is the best Rom to use? Can I unlock bootloader with a Global Dev Rom, or does it need to be a China Variant?
Once I have flashed a rom that will allow the bootloader to be unlocked, I need to follow the unlocking procedure, wait for it to be authorised by Xiaomi, then use the Mi Unlock tool.
From there, I can flash TWRP via fastboot, and once that is done, flash CM, and finally SuperSU.
Have I got all of that right, my friends, or would anyone else do anything differently?
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Hello,
I have to disagree with Vladimir.
Your description of actions is spot-on.
I have done exactly that and i am very happy with CM13 (not CM14.1 i agree on that one )
If you do flash CM, DO NOT flash SuperSU.
Root is build in CM, just activate the Developer Options and in there is the option to activate root.
But i have been using MIUI8 for about 2 weeks. 1 week waiting for unlock (problems with getting the permissions to my account) and later again 1 week to try the latest version.
Both times i had much trouble with apps being killed in the background, because MIUI is much more aggressive in killing background tasks and that is not changeable as far as i could find. That is why the battery seems to last longer. But i have in CM the same battery settings active and CM lasts just as long as the MIUI versions i had.
Also there were a lot of bugs in both versions of MIUI, that made it almost impossible for me to use it for my work.
So i would suggest, follow you own steps and first try the MIUI that you installed and if you have some problems, flash CM13 and try that for a week.
Then make a choice of what you want to use in the future.
About the MIUI flash version: if you have Global now, just upgrade via the app to the developer version. Since you already know that version, just use that one.
Chinese version is only in Chinese and English.
Global has some more languages.
Anyway unlocking bootloader works on China Stable too. Not only on Dev version. But you still need to install the China Stable. You called your girlfriend "missus" therefore I assume you are in UK and you bought your phone from an online reseller. MI5 sold by resellers are coming with a "fake" ROM.
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Hello,
I have to disagree with Vladimir.
Your description of actions is spot-on.
I have done exactly that and i am very happy with CM13 (not CM14.1 i agree on that one )
If you do flash CM, DO NOT flash SuperSU.
Root is build in CM, just activate the Developer Options and in there is the option to activate root.
But i have been using MIUI8 for about 2 weeks. 1 week waiting for unlock (problems with getting the permissions to my account) and later again 1 week to try the latest version.
Both times i had much trouble with apps being killed in the background, because MIUI is much more aggressive in killing background tasks and that is not changeable as far as i could find. That is why the battery seems to last longer. But i have in CM the same battery settings active and CM lasts just as long as the MIUI versions i had.
Also there were a lot of bugs in both versions of MIUI, that made it almost impossible for me to use it for my work.
So i would suggest, follow you own steps and first try the MIUI that you installed and if you have some problems, flash CM13 and try that for a week.
Then make a choice of what you want to use in the future.
About the MIUI flash version: if you have Global now, just upgrade via the app to the developer version. Since you already know that version, just use that one.
Chinese version is only in Chinese and English.
Global has some more languages.
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Memory management it is changeable in MIUI. There's an option for that in Developer Settings. By default it's set on on "middle" and indeed it is quite aggressive. But if you set it on "low" or "off" (my personal choice" and at the same time you turn off battery saving mode which is set on by default your apps won't be killed in the background. When I wake up in the morning (waken by alaram which never been killed by the way) my Need for Speed No limits is always where I left it in the evening.
What theme is that? it looks awesome
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What theme is that? it looks awesome
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Nightshade! Link: http://zhuti.xiaomi.com/detail/378b1e4d-156e-4c98-b483-8f857b3fea09
vladimir_carlan said:
Memory management it is changeable in MIUI. There's an option for that in Developer Settings. By default it's set on on "middle" and indeed it is quite aggressive. But if you set it on "low" or "off" (my personal choice" and at the same time you turn off battery saving mode which is set on by default your apps won't be killed in the background. When I wake up in the morning (waken by alaram which never been killed by the way) my Need for Speed No limits is always where I left it in the evening.
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Hmmm, strange.
I have only seen the option to set the background apps to a max of 5, no Off option.
But whatever the options, i still suggest to everybody to try the MIUI first for a week or so and later try the CM13 or CM14.1 version and make your own choice after that.
If MIUI works for someone, stay on it, else use CMxx
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Hmmm, strange.
I have only seen the option to set the background apps to a max of 5, no Off option.
But whatever the options, i still suggest to everybody to try the MIUI first for a week or so and later try the CM13 or CM14.1 version and make your own choice after that.
If MIUI works for someone, stay on it, else use CMxx
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On a normal situation i would suggest the same. Or even not to make any suggestion at all. In this case I did it because OP mentioned that the phone is going to be a gift for his girlfriend. If I'd gift a phone I'd gift a reliable phone. And as of today even the official CM maintainer don't think CM is reliable. If he'd consider that CM is reliable will have at least one snapshot/milestone and not only nightlies.
About Memory optimisation is a different option in Developer options. Is not part of Background processes limit.
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And as of today even the official CM maintainer don't think CM is reliable. If he'd consider that CM is reliable will have at least one snapshot/milestone and not only nightlies.
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The CM13 version is reliable and also has normal releases, not only Nightly's.
I have been using it since a few months now on my Mi5 (before that alsmost 2 years on the Mi 4i)
I agree on Cm14.1, not stable enough for me, but CM13 is absolutely stable.
I have unknown device error while unlocking bootloader. Anyone with similar issue bypassed it and unlocked BL? Pls help me.
Thanks in advance
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I have unknown device error while unlocking bootloader. Anyone with similar issue bypassed it and unlocked BL? Pls help me.
Thanks in advance
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Hi again, I just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who posted in this thread (particularly Vladimir and elot101). I've had to sort a couple of things out on the car which have prevented me from having a play on the phone, and with Christmas so close I decided discretion was the better part of valour, and giving the phone as is to my girlfriend to ensure that my Christmas present to her is not a brick, then prying it off her a few days later and flashing Dev, and pestering Xiaomi for an unlock because an Android phone without root, firewall, X-posed privacy module and titanium back-up may as well be an Apple product as far as I'm concerned.
I give you my word that I will bump this thread and let you know my experiences (good or bad) so that I can contribute back to the sum knowledge of this topic.
If anyone is reading this, something that I suspected but was not sure of that I would like to confirm for someone else like me is that recovery roms end with a .zip extension and fastboot ones have a .tgz if you are having trouble distinguishing them. Elementary perhaps, but it's always nice to have these things confirmed.
Merry Christmas guys. I hope everyone gets whatever they want, even if that's a smile from a loved one.
Best wishes
My phone went mad and downloaded 6.80gb stuff from online wasting my this month data package so i decided to update newest Chroma (about year old) to 7.1.1 stock rom + TWRP recovery + Franco kernel. As usually that felt like downgrade.
- Battery not shown as percentage
- Camera sound
- No dark/black theme
Many other issues cames too even i have used phone like 30min so i thought no point change settings more than that. I dont understand how hard can it be google to even try. I first time used android when it was something like 2.2.2 and still wondering same issues what i did then. I went from iPhone 2g to android and still miss what apple had by then and what android does not have even now but no can do.
I am not heavy user of my phone. I just want basic things to work. Is there some custom rom which is like chroma. I liked how chroma was like allmost stock rom but with couple of custom settings but its no longer continued so is there any rom which have taken it spot?
Wow, you went from a custom ROM to stock and you are missing features? Who would've guessed that?!?!
Sorry for the sarcasm lol. Flash literally any custom ROM and you should have those features. Most, if not all, N ROMs have Substratum/OMS which will allow for dark themes. Battery percentage should also be included in every ROM. Camera sound should be in most ROMs. As for me I'm still on Resurrection Remix M + xposed framework, which in my opinion has the most customization out of any possible Nexus 6 setup in the world.
I would suggest Pure Nexus to you which in my opinion is the closest to Chroma. But make a Nandroid backup and flash a few until you see what you like. Also checkout this YouTube channel which is amazing. @glockman4519 does awesome ROM overview videos if you want to get a feeler for something before flashing it.
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- Camera sound
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Do you refer to the camera shutter sound? If yes, you can't remove the sound on latest stock camera app...
I go with pure Nexus. Thanks for tip. I dont understand most of custom roms which are allways full of bugs. I never understanded either why there is need for over 10 diffrent rom for one device. Developers should work together and there would be only couple of very good roms to choose from but i know its hard people to work together so aint gonna happen
Running Pure Nexus on my wife's Shamu and on my angler. You shouldn't be disappointed. Just as you, i like simple cosmetic tweaks, dark themes, and it does the job. :good:
Resurrection Remix, @Neo style is my current dd. Every customization you could ever want is in there, but there are many great ROMs. PN is one that if you came from Chroma, you'll like. Nitrogen is good, et al. Just read the threads and give them a shot
HTC Tytn user 188 said:
My phone went mad and downloaded 6.80gb stuff from online wasting my this month data package so i decided to update newest Chroma (about year old) to 7.1.1 stock rom + TWRP recovery + Franco kernel. As usually that felt like downgrade.
- Battery not shown as percentage
- Camera sound
- No dark/black theme
Many other issues cames too even i have used phone like 30min so i thought no point change settings more than that. I dont understand how hard can it be google to even try. I first time used android when it was something like 2.2.2 and still wondering same issues what i did then. I went from iPhone 2g to android and still miss what apple had by then and what android does not have even now but no can do.
I am not heavy user of my phone. I just want basic things to work. Is there some custom rom which is like chroma. I liked how chroma was like allmost stock rom but with couple of custom settings but its no longer continued so is there any rom which have taken it spot?
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Sounds to me that you are going to like Pure Nexus since it has that Stock look and feel you want but with some extra and PN has extras.
The nice thing is you can pick and choose what features you want to run so you are in controle.
The rom does not come rooted because @BeansTown106 has decided that too many users are looking to pass the Safety Net Check for apps like Google Pay and some others that require your device be unaltered from stock. But if you want to run Substratum, you can either flash Chainfire's SuperSu sr3 v2.79 (or any systems suoerSu) or even flash Magisk Systems Root (I think it is up to v10 now) and that will allow for theming with Substratum.
That should get you pretty close, of not better than you g had with Chroma. PN is one of the most stable N roms out for the Nexus devices that I know. Another great rom would be SiX rom... But that is a whole nother story : )
I´ve been using Pure Nexus two days now. It seems usable but i dont know is it the 7.1.1 or the franco kernel or something like that but im having performance issues. Even clash of clans in own city does not work smoothly. Also camera shutter sound cannot be disabled. Otherwise i think all works as supposed to. When i installed rom i did clean install. I formated whole device including internal memory. Then i installed Pure nexus 7.1.1 + Full dynamic gapps + Franco newest kernel + Supersu
Anyone know whats the best kernel or do i just have to wait for updates on both rom and kernel?
EDIT: i will be now on pure nexus thread. Thanks for help.
@HTC Tytn user 188
The camera shutter sound can't be disabled with stock camera on 7.x Roms.
For performance issues, maybe try asking in The Rom/Kernel thread.
A combination you should test:
Crdroid rom, elementalx kernel, crystal tronik dark 12 substratum theme and latest beta nova launcher
gives me a lot of customizations, dark+blue look and good battery/performance
Works solid for me !
Hello. I just bought my brand new Oneplus 3T. I came from the LG G4. I always used custom roms on my android phones. Unfortunately I have a job now and I don't have much time to play/test all these roms around here.
I'm not asking "the best rom" or "which is better" sort of things.
I just need an opinion for what should I begin with?
I would prefer some stock based rom.
As about the kernel I heard a lot about Franco's kernel but I saw that there is Boeffla kernel too.
Don't get me wrong, I just need something to start from because as I mentioned above I don't have much time to test and choose which is best for me.
Thank you!
I have tested many ROM's and I always come to the same conclusion. Stock is better. I recommend you to use stock OOS, root it and mod it as you wish. It's a powerful OS, without much bloatware (which can anyways be easily removed) and it offers a decent amount of customization. Of course, it's not as customizable as RR, but RR is also unstable and doesn't offer the same camera quality. In fact, most ROMs have a crappy camera. Except PA, apparently, which, of course, has other problems, like idle battery drain. You'll find something that won't make you happy in every rom you try. That was, at least, my experience. I have come to the conclusion that OOS does its job well.
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I have tested many ROM's and I always come to the same conclusion. Stock is better. I recommend you to use stock OOS, root it and mod it as you wish. It's a powerful OS, without much bloatware (which can anyways be easily removed) and it offers a decent amount of customization. Of course, it's not as customizable as RR, but RR is also unstable and doesn't offer the same camera quality. In fact, most ROMs have a crappy camera. Except PA, apparently, which, of course, has other problems, like idle battery drain. You'll find something that won't make you happy in every rom you try. That was, at least, my experience. I have come to the conclusion that OOS does its job well.
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This is exactly what I want. I don't want a LineageOS based rom or something like this.
I want a STOCK based rom.
But I don't know with which rom should I start because I saw that there are a few.
Hmm, I'd say freedomOS. It's a very stable ROM, "daily driver" material. It gives you the option to kinda debloat it when you flash the ROM
If you are looking for maximum battery with average use then go for RR with EX Kernel.
Yeah Freedom OS is kind to install because you don't have to do the usual stuff manually, but I've personnaly not noticed anything you can't get on stock OOS.
I'd advice to stay stock, and if later you still want to try some new things there will be plenty of mod material here
If you want something else...try Phoenix AEX ROM..
Really different experience...( EAS based )
Hi, when you are new with this phone I personally would recommend OxygenOpen Beta.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/coming-update-oos-based-7-1-t3564240
This Rom has everything you want, for me absolut stable and has all features you need for normal use. Worth to have a look.
I always had custom Roms on my earlier phones, but this stock Rom is the best I have ever seen. I have unlocked bootloader and rootet phone but since I have my phone (since May) I flashed this Rom and there is no reason for me to change it:angel:
Greets, reinipic
ilooze said:
I always used custom roms on my android phones.
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Don't feel like you need to flash a custom ROM, just because you "always have". Try the stock OOS for a bit, you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Stock OOS is very impressive. Very little bloat, really close to stock Android, nice customization options, and it just works. It's a big departure from the manufacturer "skins" applied by LG, Samsung, etc. which often (in my opinion) make too many changes, with little added value.
Although, I would suggest unlocking the bootloader now (instead of waiting) even if you do intend to try out the stock ROM for a while. Sinceit is a bit annoying having your data wiped (by unlocking the bootloader - it can't be avoided) and having to setup everything again, if you do decide to install a custom ROM, kernels, etc.
Stick to OOS. It's the best, really. Sultanxda's lineage is amazing for starters.
And Franco kernel on OOS is also "legendary"
Nevertheless, it's upto you to try and tell yourself what rom/kernel suits your needs.
Cheers!
That's the mistake you use custom roms. I always have stock rom on my every device
Stock open beta 10 with custom kernel(optional to remove dm verity flag) + magisk + safety net pass + adway + google assistant + dark mode.... thats it !
i can only find one derpest download here
https://sourceforge.net/projects/derpfest/files/
can a custom rom like this be loaded onto a samsung note 4 SM910F, if someone has to try and its not suitable will it just not load, bits of it not work, or brick the fone. I nhave twrp installed so as long as I can get back to twrp I can go back to another rom.
Senior member please help, my knowledge is low, and really trying to understand this.
.....Has anyone loaded ANY pie style rom onto note 4 sm910F which is as fast as the original android 6.01, and where everything important, CAMERA bluetooth etc all work. If so may I have a link please. THANKyOOOOOO
I doubt it will be compatible with the Galaxy Note 4 but you could do a search from the link below. Good luck
https://derpfest.org/devices
gwm121 said:
i can only find one derpest download here
https://sourceforge.net/projects/derpfest/files/
can a custom rom like this be loaded onto a samsung note 4 SM910F, if someone has to try and its not suitable will it just not load, bits of it not work, or brick the fone. I nhave twrp installed so as long as I can get back to twrp I can go back to another rom.
Senior member please help, my knowledge is low, and really trying to understand this.
.....Has anyone loaded ANY pie style rom onto note 4 sm910F which is as fast as the original android 6.01, and where everything important, CAMERA bluetooth etc all work. If so may I have a link please. THANKyOOOOOO
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There are 2 types of ROMS for the 910F:
a. stock - original mage by Samsung
b. custom roms AOSP based
Type b can be also divided in 2 -
b1. custom ROMs AOSP based
b2. custom ROMs ported from stock from other Samsung devices - but that involves HUGE amount of knowledge, time and resources spent to get them to work.
I suggest you go and READ and get as much info as you can to be able to understand these terms.
It's not hard, depending on your time and will.
As for your questions of derfest - it is an AOSP based ROM, but if no developer has built it on the official site, it's pretty hard to ask for it for the 910F. I saw no Samsung there.
"can a custom rom like this be loaded onto a samsung note 4 SM910F" - yes, there is Lineage, RR, Havoc, AEX, etc - go check them in the dedicated section of the forum for your device.
"Has anyone loaded ANY pie style rom onto note 4 sm910F which is as fast as the original android 6.01"
There are pie style ROMs (as said above, go check them) faster than android 6. Android 6 was whatever you want, but not fast.
However, there's no pie ROMs ported from other Samsung devices to 910F.
Good luck.
note 4 sm910F custom roms fast stable .. and thankyou
Thank you for reply, appreciated. yes reading as much as possible.
I have rooted, loaded twrp, via odin,
and loaded threee of the four custom roms you mention, Lineage, RR, Havoc, and will look for AEX,
rr res remix is running now, however is slower than android 6.01, 55 seconds for cold start and generally a little laggy, and the camera intermiitntly freezes. Im reading everything I can, but dont understand if the camera problem is , ... a bug on rr, a bug on some camera apps including the one supplied with pico gapps,, an app ive loaded interfering with it or what. Ive seen comments about dirty load and clean load, and wipe with twrp default suggestions before loading rr,.
The reason for wanting a custom rom, is its nice to have both my fones with similar operating systems, the method of getting to app draw, unlocking fone swpe direction, accessing swype down shade are so different android 6 to pie,
and having apps like sonos being able to run
and possibly volte running tho no rom so far has done this.
If the disadvantages of a custom rom outweigh android 6 Ill look at going back to stock, Samsung wont supply the firmware but will do it at their shop!!
Android 6 had one feature better than pie I think, shade accessed by one sype down, and the initial screan names like wifi data in words beneath each item, thats so helpful no pie type rom so far has this
Again big thankyou for reply.
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There are 2 types of ROMS for the 910F:
a. stock - original mage by Samsung
b. custom roms AOSP based
Type b can be also divided in 2 -
b1. custom ROMs AOSP based
b2. custom ROMs ported from stock from other Samsung devices - but that involves HUGE amount of knowledge, time and resources spent to get them to work.
I suggest you go and READ and get as much info as you can to be able to understand these terms.
It's not hard, depending on your time and will.
As for your questions of derfest - it is an AOSP based ROM, but if no developer has built it on the official site, it's pretty hard to ask for it for the 910F. I saw no Samsung there.
"can a custom rom like this be loaded onto a samsung note 4 SM910F" - yes, there is Lineage, RR, Havoc, AEX, etc - go check them in the dedicated section of the forum for your device.
"Has anyone loaded ANY pie style rom onto note 4 sm910F which is as fast as the original android 6.01"
There are pie style ROMs (as said above, go check them) faster than android 6. Android 6 was whatever you want, but not fast.
However, there's no pie ROMs ported from other Samsung devices to 910F.
Good luck.
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gwm121 said:
Thank you for reply, appreciated. yes reading as much as possible.
I have rooted, loaded twrp, via odin,
and loaded threee of the four custom roms you mention, Lineage, RR, Havoc, and will look for AEX,
rr res remix is running now, however is slower than android 6.01, 55 seconds for cold start and generally a little laggy, and the camera intermiitntly freezes. Im reading everything I can, but dont understand if the camera problem is , ... a bug on rr, a bug on some camera apps including the one supplied with pico gapps,, an app ive loaded interfering with it or what. Ive seen comments about dirty load and clean load, and wipe with twrp default suggestions before loading rr,.
1. camera can't be as stock - original blobs (coding) of the app are Samsung proprietary, not open source, it's very difficult to have the same quality
2. coming from stock to custom ROM it's always recommended to format data (wipe is not enough) - that includes the internal storage, so save it before you do it
The reason for wanting a custom rom, is its nice to have both my fones with similar operating systems, the method of getting to app draw, unlocking fone swpe direction, accessing swype down shade are so different android 6 to pie, and having apps like sonos being able to run and possibly volte running tho no rom so far has done this.
these are your preferences, no comment here - however, volte is quite a specific thing, not all developers are bothered/care about it - so again, take it or leave it
If the disadvantages of a custom rom outweigh android 6 Ill look at going back to stock, Samsung wont supply the firmware but will do it at their shop!!
you can go back to stock if you would have made a back-up of stock with the fresh installed TWRP
or use Odin to flash with PC
Android 6 had one feature better than pie I think, shade accessed by one sype down, and the initial screan names like wifi data in words beneath each item, thats so helpful, no pie type rom so far has this
Again big thank you for reply.
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No problem glad I could help.
Have a nice day.