I am a bit confused about rooting. I have a N950F/DS sim locked to Smart Mobile in the Philippines. Is "factory unlocked" a prerequisite to rooting? Can I root my device and flash TWRP or any other recovery? How about flashing a different ROM? Kinda lost here being on the dark side for a couple years and things seem to have gotten a bit more complicated.
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After reading all the threads about rooting the new S6 (technically the inability to root) and all the talk about unlocking, I am not quite clear on if there is a round-about way to get root. Can I: unlock my phone, put in another carriers SIM (like T-Mobile) and with that SIM in root the phone? Is it possible to roll back the operating system back to one that does have a vulnerability to allow root.
What makes AT&T version unable to root when it runs the same operating system as T-Mobile (I am assuming they run the same operating system). Why is it so definitive that there won't be a root for this phone?
I am have read articles, but I want to hear a dumbed-down, to the point explanation from people who understand how this works.
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On the att model the bootloader is locked down tight whereas on tmo it can be unlocked. That is the issue. The things you mentioned won't work unfortunately.
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fitzumwell said:
After reading all the threads about rooting the new S6 (technically the inability to root) and all the talk about unlocking, I am not quite clear on if there is a round-about way to get root. Can I: unlock my phone, put in another carriers SIM (like T-Mobile) and with that SIM in root the phone? Is it possible to roll back the operating system back to one that does have a vulnerability to allow root.
What makes AT&T version unable to root when it runs the same operating system as T-Mobile (I am assuming they run the same operating system). Why is it so definitive that there won't be a root for this phone?
I am have read articles, but I want to hear a dumbed-down, to the point explanation from people who understand how this works.
Thanks!
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You're asking a few different questions so i will try to answer them as best I can.
1st things 1st. All versions of the GS6 can be rooted. However, the AT&T and Verizon versions have locked bootloaders which mean that as of right now, there is no way to flash a custom recovery making it impossible flash roms. Having a rooted phone with a locked bootloader is fine as you can still install apps that require root it really just means no custom recovery and no custom roms.
The other thing about using a different sim card is called SIM UNLOCKING or carrier unlocking. This is something that the original carrier should do for you for free once you've paid the device off and do not owe anything on it. Also, most carriers like T-Mobile will not unlock it for you until you've used the phone on their network for at least 40 days (dont quote me on that, its 40 give or take 5 days)
So, to be clear its not rooting that allows you to use a foreign sim its SIM unlocking and this can be done for free by the carrier once you pay the phone off.
All versions of the GS6 can be rooted its just some even after you root will not be able install custom roms.
Hope this helps.
Also, if you are on at&t but dont wanna be stuck with a locked bootloader you may wanna consider buying a factory unlocked phone. They cost a little bit more but they are already unlocked so using T-Mobile or AT&T on most unlocked models is easy as changing the sim card. AND since they have unlocked bootloaders all you have to do is root it and you are free to install whatever custom rom you want.
Good luck!
jimmiekain said:
You're asking a few different questions so i will try to answer them as best I can.
1st things 1st. All versions of the GS6 can be rooted. However, the AT&T and Verizon versions have locked bootloaders which mean that as of right now, there is no way to flash a custom recovery making it impossible flash roms. Having a rooted phone with a locked bootloader is fine as you can still install apps that require root it really just means no custom recovery and no custom roms.
The other thing about using a different sim card is called SIM UNLOCKING or carrier unlocking. This is something that the original carrier should do for you for free once you've paid the device off and do not owe anything on it. Also, most carriers like T-Mobile will not unlock it for you until you've used the phone on their network for at least 40 days (dont quote me on that, its 40 give or take 5 days)
So, to be clear its not rooting that allows you to use a foreign sim its SIM unlocking and this can be done for free by the carrier once you pay the phone off.
All versions of the GS6 can be rooted its just some even after you root will not be able install custom roms.
Hope this helps.
Also, if you are on at&t but dont wanna be stuck with a locked bootloader you may wanna consider buying a factory unlocked phone. They cost a little bit more but they are already unlocked so using T-Mobile or AT&T on most unlocked models is easy as changing the sim card. AND since they have unlocked bootloaders all you have to do is root it and you are free to install whatever custom rom you want.
Good luck!
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Thank you so much for clarifying that for me but that leaves me with more questions. So you are saying I can still root my ATT phone? I need root access for giving root privileges to other apps and not to flash custom roms. I want to be able to remove bloatware and tweak the performance of the phone. Is that a different kind of root? I rooted my GS4 with an app I put on the phone and not with Odin. Is that what I need to do again if I am not planning on modding my rom?
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Thank you so much for clarifying that for me but that leaves me with more questions. So you are saying I can still root my ATT phone? I need root access for giving root privileges to other apps and not to flash custom roms. I want to be able to remove bloatware and tweak the performance of the phone. Is that a different kind of root? I rooted my GS4 with an app I put on the phone and not with Odin. Is that what I need to do again if I am not planning on modding my rom?
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So you are saying I can still root my ATT phone? YES BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO INSTALL A CUSTOM RECOVERY BECAUSE THE BOOTLOADER IS LOCKED. WITHOUT A CUSTOM RECOVERY, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO INSTALL ROMS.
I need root access for giving root privileges to other apps and not to flash custom roms. YES AND NO, YOU NEED ROOT TO GIVE ROOT PRIVS TO OTHER APPS BUT ITS NOT ROOT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO INSTALL CUSTOM ROMS, ITS BOTH ROOT AND A CUSTOM BOOTLOADER.
I want to be able to remove bloatware and tweak the performance of the phone. YOU CAN DO THAT WITH ROOT. NO CUSTOM ROM REQUIRED.
Is that a different kind of root? THERE IS ONLY ONE KIND OF ROOT, THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO ROOT BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE KIND. EITHER YOU ARE ROOTED OR YOU ARE NOT.
I rooted my GS4 with an app I put on the phone and not with Odin. Is that what I need to do again if I am not planning on modding my rom? YOU CAN USE ODIN, YOU MAY ALSO BE ABLE TO DO IT USING THE APP METHOD BUT I DONT KNOW FOR SURE.
SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG TO RESPOND, I'VE BEEN SHOPPING AROUND FOR AN UNLOCKED GS6 MYSELF.
Hope this helps.
Can you link me to a root method that doesn't trip Knox? I have the att S6
xXQuintonXx said:
Can you link me to a root method that doesn't trip Knox? I have the att S6
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We don't have one yet.
SilkyJohnson said:
We don't have one yet.
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Is there a way to remove Knox so we can root?
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jimmiekain said:
So you are saying I can still root my ATT phone? YES BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO INSTALL A CUSTOM RECOVERY BECAUSE THE BOOTLOADER IS LOCKED. WITHOUT A CUSTOM RECOVERY, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO INSTALL ROMS.
I need root access for giving root privileges to other apps and not to flash custom roms. YES AND NO, YOU NEED ROOT TO GIVE ROOT PRIVS TO OTHER APPS BUT ITS NOT ROOT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO INSTALL CUSTOM ROMS, ITS BOTH ROOT AND A CUSTOM BOOTLOADER.
I want to be able to remove bloatware and tweak the performance of the phone. YOU CAN DO THAT WITH ROOT. NO CUSTOM ROM REQUIRED.
Is that a different kind of root? THERE IS ONLY ONE KIND OF ROOT, THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO ROOT BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE KIND. EITHER YOU ARE ROOTED OR YOU ARE NOT.
I rooted my GS4 with an app I put on the phone and not with Odin. Is that what I need to do again if I am not planning on modding my rom? YOU CAN USE ODIN, YOU MAY ALSO BE ABLE TO DO IT USING THE APP METHOD BUT I DONT KNOW FOR SURE.
SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG TO RESPOND, I'VE BEEN SHOPPING AROUND FOR AN UNLOCKED GS6 MYSELF.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you so much for explaining all that for me. I guess there aren't many people out there that want root without the expectation to flash their ROM. I will keep researching till I find a way to get root where I don't need to flash the ROM with it.
fitzumwell said:
Thank you so much for explaining all that for me. I guess there aren't many people out there that want root without the expectation to flash their ROM. I will keep researching till I find a way to get root where I don't need to flash the ROM with it.
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You can root without flashing a rom.
jimmiekain said:
You can root without flashing a rom.
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How can that be done? Everyone says there is no point so noone is coding it? Am I missing something?
Now that you AT&T & Verizon users have root (Ping-pong Root)
You can't flash other custom recovery/Kernels/Roms becauce the bootloder are still locked, right?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
What about what happend in S5 lile safestrap?
Can anyone do it in S6/S6E?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2794087
Hello everyone. I am not new to rooting and flashing custom roms but i have never had more trouble than with these samsung phones. I have a Note 4 from TMobile( model in title of thread). I need help rooting, unlocking the bootloader, and flashing custom roms. Based on what i see this basically voids the warranty which im ok with. I just worry about bricking my phone with the wrong tools because i see 2 variants of the note 4 for Tmobile. So does anyone have any info on the root/ bootloader unlocking process for the SM-N910T3 variant?
I downloaded kingo root from the playstore, 1 click, it did it. if it dont work the first time, reboot and try it again.
Can I install TWRP for the AT&T version with Nougat? I have heard that if I try it will brick. I'd really like to install a new ROM so I can get rid of all the crapware that comes with the phone.
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Can I install TWRP for the AT&T version with Nougat? I have heard that if I try it will brick. I'd really like to install a new ROM so I can get rid of all the crapware that comes with the phone.
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The 920A At&t cant be rooted as of yet and no twrp because the bootloader is locked...
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I recently talked to at&t about getting my bootloader unlocked and a supervisor told me the only way to do so without bricking would be to being it in to an at&t store and they will unlock the bootloader.. anybody else have this told to them?
They're most likely taking about a Sim unlock not bootloader. Also there is a method for rooting it but you have to be on a specific bootloader and you can only use it on lolipop.
asislife20 said:
They're most likely taking about a Sim unlock not bootloader. Also there is a method for rooting it but you have to be on a specific bootloader and you can only use it on lolipop.
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Ya, I know about that root method. Unfortunately, my phone decided to update itself a few weeks ago and now its on BL 5. So that's pretty much a no go.
In relation to bringing in the store for a BL unlock, I did specifically ask and made sure the tech I was speaking with knew the difference between BL and sim unlock. In fact, i made it very known that my radio was already unlocked, I done that weeks before i talked to her.
So far, every damned Cricket phone I've ever bought has either a crippled bootloader, or no bootloader at all. I recently bought the LG Harmony (M257) (Android 7.0) from Cricket Wireless after unsuccessfully trying to root and bricking a ZTE Grand X 3 (Z959) (Android 5.1.1) from losing charge while attempting a root. Either way, these phones seem to have little to no bootloader. If you prompt adb with "adb reboot bootloader" it just boots as normal, right into the OS.
My whole question here is, is it possible to flash SuperSU without TWRP or an unlocked bootloader? I am in dire need of rooting this device, as I'm getting overwhelmed with how little it can do as stock.
If there's a downloadable version of twrp that is "universal" somewhere, with a proper signature that can be adb side-loaded, or anything that can get me a team win custom recovery on a device with a crippled bootloader, please tell me about that too.
Thanks in advance to anyone that replies with helpful info!
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So far, every damned Cricket phone I've ever bought has either a crippled bootloader, or no bootloader at all. I recently bought the LG Harmony (M257) (Android 7.0) from Cricket Wireless after unsuccessfully trying to root and bricking a ZTE Grand X 3 (Z959) (Android 5.1.1) from losing charge while attempting a root. Either way, these phones seem to have little to no bootloader. If you prompt adb with "adb reboot bootloader" it just boots as normal, right into the OS.
My whole question here is, is it possible to flash SuperSU without TWRP or an unlocked bootloader? I am in dire need of rooting this device, as I'm getting overwhelmed with how little it can do as stock.
If there's a downloadable version of twrp that is "universal" somewhere, with a proper signature that can be adb side-loaded, or anything that can get me a team win custom recovery on a device with a crippled bootloader, please tell me about that too.
Thanks in advance to anyone that replies with helpful info!
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- it has a bootloader; just crippled (like most carrier supplied prepaid devices)
- no way to install Magisk, SuperSU or similar tool on an unrooted device with locked bootloader (if it were that easy ...)
Davey126 said:
- it has a bootloader; just crippled (like most carrier supplied prepaid devices)
- no way to install Magisk, SuperSU or similar tool on an unrooted device with locked bootloader (if it were that easy ...)
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Well, it was worth a shot... Guess I might just have to resort to a few sketchy one-touch methods and use SuperSU Me.
iiPostMaster said:
Well, it was worth a shot... Guess I might just have to resort to a few sketchy one-touch methods and use SuperSU Me.
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Good luck - no known (or at least reliable) root exploits for M257 which is a prerequisite for SuperSU me.
So, I have a Global MI 8, with stock rom, on MIUI 10.2.3, locked bootloader.
I was contemplating rooting, since i always have rooted phones.
Was looking into some tutorials, and i have a couple of questions, that are still the things that are preventing me to move on with this.
1) In some tutorials, as part of the process to Flash Magisk, it is mentioned a flashing of a script that removes encryption, but some others tutorials don't. So... question would be... is it alwasys necessary? Or just if you encrypted your phone or something?
2) Since unlocking your bootloader makes some thigns not working (like the Find my device thing and other banking things...) i was wondering if the bootloader can be re-locked. I plan to stay with the stock Android, but i assume i have to drop the root? So...maybe re flashing stock rom/recovery/bootloader and re-lock after? I'm not clear with this part, so if anyone can shed some light on it, it's very appreciated.
Thanks