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AOSP here? No wait... There???

I ask this because we are now in December. I have recently fired up an old Z1 and want to breathe new life into it. So I have been looking around for a while now. A few things I gathered.
: Sony supports custom roms and supplies everything needed for a rom.
: fxp.co makes roms but they have been inactive since October, does this mean their latest rom is stable?
: Sony have released some camera stuff yesterday but nobody has come forward and said they will take it and build with it.
Everything seems dead and as if no one wants to build further. I don't know how to build otherwise I would of done it my self by now and shared it.
Is this device dead? Is there someone who knows what they are doing going to release a build? I'm still on stock waiting for my first AOSP build to flash.
Coming from a motorola (Moto G 2014) that has a million roms build a day. This is weird for me to not have a rom to flash and use as a DD.
I'm coming off as a snotty kid here I know. I just want to flash some AOSP's... So thats the question... Are there any AOSP's that can be flashed and used as DD?
Thanks for at least trying to read this... Pece

Yeah it is a little dead around here unfortunately hahaha. I've tried all the CM/AOSP ROMs and from my experience almost all of them are good as daily drivers with no issues with the exception of the Marshmallow one currently being worked on.

tomascus said:
Yeah it is a little dead around here unfortunately hahaha. I've tried all the CM/AOSP ROMs and from my experience almost all of them are good as daily drivers with no issues with the exception of the Marshmallow one currently being worked on.
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So whick ROM do you suggest then?
On FXP they have this one : AOSP_L_MR1_151203_honami... I guess that is the latest one with the camera thingy that was published. 151203 means 3rd of Dec 2015. Right???
I guess I should just download and flash and answer my own questions
Thanks

ljoao77 said:
So whick ROM do you suggest then?
On FXP they have this one : AOSP_L_MR1_151203_honami... I guess that is the latest one with the camera thingy that was published. 151203 means 3rd of Dec 2015. Right???
I guess I should just download and flash and answer my own questions
Thanks
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Yea it does.
Up to you man, I personally just grab CM12.1 off the nightlies website http://www.cmxlog.com/12.1/honami/ and maybe also flash M5 kernel on there, which you can find in the development section.

I just want to say... I've been at it for about 4hours now... This is harder than I expected. I finally have a AOSP rom. FXP latest build... Finally have TWRP recovery... About to flash open g apps stock package... I hope it all goes well... This is way harder than the hundreds of other android phones I've done this with.
Edit : It seems that cyanogenmod is the only stable ROM I could get past setup with. After I installed Gapps. I installed Aroma Gapps and selected the apps I use. The Gapps run perfectly and Google camera seems to be pretty good and taking full 20mp shots. I'm impressed with CM12.1. It runs good. After doing an antutu benchmark to see if the performance is close to stock I see that it ,"Benched", Way more that stock. 43288 is my score on Antutu. I know bechmarks tell half a story but it seems to tell an interesting one... It seems CM12.1 is really great and with the Gapps I'm getting my ,"stock android", feels anyhow.
This was the toughest device for me to get a working custom ROM with. There should be a new thread detailing how, late 2015. To get a custom ROM working.
AOSP with FXP in no good for actual use. CM12.1 is really good.
I answered my own questions I wanted details too. I'll be using this CM12.1 Xperia Z1 as my DD and see if it works.

ljoao77 said:
I ask this because we are now in December. I have recently fired up an old Z1 and want to breathe new life into it. So I have been looking around for a while now. A few things I gathered.
: Sony supports custom roms and supplies everything needed for a rom.
: fxp.co makes roms but they have been inactive since October, does this mean their latest rom is stable?
: Sony have released some camera stuff yesterday but nobody has come forward and said they will take it and build with it.
Everything seems dead and as if no one wants to build further. I don't know how to build otherwise I would of done it my self by now and shared it.
Is this device dead? Is there someone who knows what they are doing going to release a build? I'm still on stock waiting for my first AOSP build to flash.
Coming from a motorola (Moto G 2014) that has a million roms build a day. This is weird for me to not have a rom to flash and use as a DD.
I'm coming off as a snotty kid here I know. I just want to flash some AOSP's... So thats the question... Are there any AOSP's that can be flashed and used as DD?
Thanks for at least trying to read this... Pece
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The first thing to do to stop projecting the image of a snotty kid is to read original development thread. You may surprise yourself finding plenty of custom roms including CM, Paranoid, Slimrom, DU and others. You can find kitkat and both versions of lollipop and every time custom roms were several months ahead of stock.
So, don't be shy and read.

optimumpro said:
The first thing to do to stop projecting the image of a snotty kid
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I think this is a little harsh, flashing a new device can be quite overwhelming, especially if the forums are as inactive as they are here in the Z1 section.
But OP, there is a super long thread pinned about flashing and rooting for newcomers, you should check that out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565

D33KK said:
I think this is a little harsh, flashing a new device can be quite overwhelming, especially if the forums are as inactive as they are here in the Z1 section.
But OP, there is a super long thread pinned about flashing and rooting for newcomers, you should check that out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565
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Little harsh? I don't think so. I don't appreciate it when freeloaders complain, especially when they don't know what they are talking about. The guy wasn't asking questions on how to flash, he basically came in and proclaimed that there are no custom roms for Z1, everything is dead and he is waiting for the first custom rom to flash. He clearly didn't bother to read and discover a multitude of custom roms for Z1. And by making that ridiculous statement, he has insulted everybody who contributes to Z1 development..
And by the way, what does "dead" mean? Inability to have updates twice a day? Lollipop has just recently became stable and marshmallows won't get there for at least a year. Plus, I am not sure that M is worth the effort: not much changed as compared to LP.

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And by the way, what does "dead" mean? Inability to have updates twice a day? Lollipop has just recently became stable and marshmallows won't get there for at least a year. Plus, I am not sure that M is worth the effort: not much changed as compared to LP.
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Yeah I agree with you, Lolipop is really good on the Z1, even if we do eventually get M I'm not sure it'll be worth the upgrade.

optimumpro said:
Little harsh? I don't think so. I don't appreciate it when freeloaders complain, especially when they don't know what they are talking about. The guy wasn't asking questions on how to flash, he basically came in and proclaimed that there are no custom roms for Z1, everything is dead and he is waiting for the first custom rom to flash. He clearly didn't bother to read and discover a multitude of custom roms for Z1. And by making that ridiculous statement, he has insulted everybody who contributes to Z1 development..
And by the way, what does "dead" mean? Inability to have updates twice a day? Lollipop has just recently became stable and marshmallows won't get there for at least a year. Plus, I am not sure that M is worth the effort: not much changed as compared to LP.
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You miss understand. Let me explain. I went through all the custom roms threads. And I read the comments. The comments all speak of incomplete roms that have a major flaws in it. Camera not working is the main problem. I also did search the forum to figure out how to flash the Sony. The forum helped but it was scattered everywhere. Some solutions were not even in the Z1 page but in another Sony Xperia page. (The drivers not being accepted by newer windows) This thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565 would definitely come in handy, I must of over looked it.
I am sorry if you think I'm clueless to this. But I have had about 5 phones that I've flashed custom roms on. Motorola, HTC and samsung. All those phones were easy. The Sony is very complicated because I couldn't get into the recovery, after following instructions from Sony and on this forum. Using EMMA to flash the recovery, Pressing the right buttons. I could not get it to work... But with fastboot I kept trying and somehow got it to flash TWRP recovery. Allowing me to install CM12.1
Flashing the FXP AOSP roms was easy. But that rom didn't work. Neither did the Recovery that came with it.
I Just wanted to know how to get this AOSP that Sony bragged about. But in essence it doesn't exist. Not in a functional form for users.
And I think that was my biggest problem. Understanding that the AOSP thing is not for me. Or others that want it as a DD.
*Edit After reading the replies and felt the need to refreshen my story. I understand there are lots of Custom ROMS. The whole idea here was that I was looking for AOSP that all the articles talk about. Sony releasing AOSP build for their phones. But it isn't exactly the full story. I was just looking for these Sony AOSP Roms... But I did end up with CM12.1... I was thinking about trying this Jaguar one that is so active as well. I'm not trying to rip on the custom roms the community was working on. I was justy trying to find Sony's AOSP. I'm sure the Custom roms are great. And I will eventually find the perfect one for me.

For 1st time, I not sure to install a Custom ROM

Hi,
I got the 1+3 since 3 days, and I must say that from the ROM point of view I quite happy with it ;
It is ...
1. Stable
2. Quick
3. Battery friendly
4. Enough customisation
5. Not Bloatware
Of course there is room for improvement in each points, I know, but ....
Usually I root for point 4. & 5. and I put Custom ROM for point 1. 2. & 3.
But this time, I´m not so hurry

Same here. I have rooted to solve memory management issue but dont really fancy putting a CM rom on it. Will wait until there is a stable oxygen rom I think

I will wait also. Hopefully more CM13 mods will come and improve performance in general.

I got it since 2 days and was very surprised on easy unlocking bootloader and rooting. ROM seems stable and quick enough. I assume that I will wait for an Android N port before I change to a custom ROM. Has someone an idea if there are already devs on the way to cook N-ROMs for different devices?

Same here, only rooted it for the memory fix, OOS have everything I want

I will for sure flash RR and Bliss Flashing Roms is why i bought this device.

andywright1982 said:
Same here. I have rooted to solve memory management issue but dont really fancy putting a CM rom on it. Will wait until there is a stable oxygen rom I think
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I haven't even rooted - but I am quite happy with Oxygen 3, feel no great urge to customise or get CM etc installed. I really like it.
Does Android Pay still work on your device??

Thought I was the only one.
No intention of rooting at the moment.
Have a few apps for work that need a stock phone, plus banking apps etc.
But yep OOS3 seems to have everything with nova launcher.
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Same here, OxygenOS is awesome so far, but I rooted for Xposed.

Those that have been flashing roms for 3+ years pretty much get tired of doing it and want all stock. New people get excited about flashing new roms and do it for 3+ years until they end up getting tired too

Valid points for staying on OOS, it's a good rom that has most all customizations I need and the rest I can get with xposed...
Thing is do you EVER plan on flashing a rom? My answer is of course so I decided to go ahead and decrypt (format data) now as opposed to later after I have all my music, etc loaded on.
Running Grarak's CM13 swimmingly.

brickedvice said:
Those that have been flashing roms for 3+ years pretty much get tired of doing it and want all stock. New people get excited about flashing new roms and do it for 3+ years until they end up getting tired too
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Well in my case, I've been flashing rom's for 8 years. This is the first device I've not felt the need out of the box.

brickedvice said:
Those that have been flashing roms for 3+ years pretty much get tired of doing it and want all stock. New people get excited about flashing new roms and do it for 3+ years until they end up getting tired too
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+1 here. I've been rooting phones for 5+ years as soon as I got them. But now, I'm wondering if I even need to bother.

Yeah, this is hard one. Thanks devs for quickly coming up with root, unlock, custom, and tweaks. Not sure if rooting is needed. I think we can all agree, if you want more out of the devices, you quickly root. For some reason, that's not necessary for one+3. I'm pretty sure we will get bored and devs will come out with super awesome Roms in the near future with many added tweaks. But this phone is solid. Might need a month's of stock rom usage and more arising issues before I will jump to rooting. Great device no complaints..
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Yes also for me. Great Rom and the first time that I don't want to change the rom!
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I agree, I actually like this stock, I got pretty much everything I need, iI will just miss flashing nightlies but I won't miss all the down time and missed text messages

Been flashing ROMs for 6 years now, always running cm, and I have been seriously considering given oos a few days before flashing, but also I'm to used to cm

I'm waiting for Multiboot/Dualboot patch...keeping Stock-Rom on first "partition" and Custom-ROM on second...

I want to unlock BL, install TWRP, CM and root. Is this how?

Hi everyone,
I've jusdt purchased a Xiaomi MI5 for my girlfriend and have been trying to build my knowledge of how to install TWRP, root it, and add Cyanogenmod. I think I've managed to get all of the information that I need, but I would just like to check it with your good selves before I go ahead.
The phone currently has the global stable rom installed, and I understand that I need to flash over that before I can get the bootloader unlocked, and I can do so by using the built in "updater" app to flash the rom that will allow the BL unlock.
QUESTION: What is the best Rom to use? Can I unlock bootloader with a Global Dev Rom, or does it need to be a China Variant?
Once I have flashed a rom that will allow the bootloader to be unlocked, I need to follow the unlocking procedure, wait for it to be authorised by Xiaomi, then use the Mi Unlock tool.
From there, I can flash TWRP via fastboot, and once that is done, flash CM, and finally SuperSU.
Have I got all of that right, my friends, or would anyone else do anything differently?
Much obliged for all the help that I have received in the past from the good folk on XDA. If I've been able to perceive the correct course of action, it's only because I've stood on the shoulders of you giants.
Best regards,
p.s. Believe it or not, I'm still using an antiquated Samsung Galaxy Media Player 5.0, and having had a quick play with the MI5, it feels like adanced alien technology in comparison. Very snappy indeed and I'm feeling quite jealous of the Missus.

One step at the time then fellas. To get bootloader unlock I must be on a dev rom. Can I flash straight to Global Dev using the "Updater" app? thanks

imgettingold said:
One step at the time then fellas. To get bootloader unlock I must be on a dev rom. Can I flash straight to Global Dev using the "Updater" app? thanks
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If you are on stable rom you can't flash developer rom via Updater app. You can do it only via fastboot using MiFlash tool. About what development rom you should use, Global or China, China version is the best shot. At the of the day makes no difference. You still need to download any of them and anyway China version have english language. So using it for a while until you manage to unlock your bootloader shouldn't be an issue.
On another matter now... In your first post you was talking about installing CM. My advice from my own experience is to stay on MIUI for now. CM 14.1 is still on early stages of development. As of today MIUI 8.1 is way more stable than CM. There's absolutely no comparison between camera quality. Battery last longer and performance wise, on my usage (Facebook, Messenger, Whatsapp, lots of browsing, lots of hours of playing Need for Speed No Limits and Vainglory) there's no difference between MIUI and CM14.1. So far photos quality is way lower on CM, video recording buggy (i don't know if it's fixed in last build), some people are complaining about Bluetooth issues... Anyway...is your girlfriend willing to flash nightly CM builds on a daily basis? Mine for sure would throw the phone through the window lol.
Yes I know that "legend" is saying that CM roms are snapier and more customisable than stock roms. Not the case for CM14.1, at least not yet... Customisation wise what you can do on CM14.1 you can do on MIUI 8. And theme engine is not ready for CM14.1 yet...so much about customisation. On MIUI8 the theme engine works just fine and the themes collection is quite large.
If you chose to stay on MIUI i assume you'll want a debloated rom. My advice is to go for xiaomi.eu roms. Xiaomi.eu roms are based on China versions (China versions gets updates more often than global version) without bloatware.

At fist , you must be using MIflash tool to get bootloader unlock.Next to install TWRP.

vladimir_carlan said:
If you are on stable rom you can't flash developer rom via Updater app. You can do it only via fastboot using MiFlash tool. About what development rom you should use, Global or China, China version is the best shot. At the of the day makes no difference. You still need to download any of them and anyway China version have english language. So using it for a while until you manage to unlock your bootloader shouldn't be an issue.
On another matter now... In your first post you was talking about installing CM. My advice from my own experience is to stay on MIUI for now. CM 14.1 is still on early stages of development. As of today MIUI 8.1 is way more stable than CM. There's absolutely no comparison between camera quality. Battery last longer and performance wise, on my usage (Facebook, Messenger, Whatsapp, lots of browsing, lots of hours of playing Need for Speed No Limits and Vainglory) there's no difference between MIUI and CM14.1. So far photos quality is way lower on CM, video recording buggy (i don't know if it's fixed in last build), some people are complaining about Bluetooth issues... Anyway...is your girlfriend willing to flash nightly CM builds on a daily basis? Mine for sure would throw the phone through the window lol.
Yes I know that "legend" is saying that CM roms are snapier and more customisable than stock roms. Not the case for CM14.1, at least not yet... Customisation wise what you can do on CM14.1 you can do on MIUI 8. And theme engine is not ready for CM14.1 yet...so much about customisation. On MIUI8 the theme engine works just fine and the themes collection is quite large.
If you chose to stay on MIUI i assume you'll want a debloated rom. My advice is to go for xiaomi.eu roms. Xiaomi.eu roms are based on China versions (China versions gets updates more often than global version) without bloatware.
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Thank you Vladimir for your considered and thoughtful reply.
I had thought about using miflash, but the instructions here:
http://en.miui.com/a-234.html
state, "Click here to download MiFlash. If your device is locked. please click here to unlock it first. "
Since I want to flash a dev rom in order to unlock, the instructions to unlock and then flash made no sense to me. It is okay to go from Global stable (8.0.2.0 MAAMIDG, in my case) to China Dev 6.12.15 via MiFlash and I can do this with a regular USB-c cable and not a deepflash cable, is this correct?
I think you make a good point about CM 14.1 not being ready for prime time. I think my girlfriend would prefer the graphical touches of MIUI 8 in any event. Can you confirm that I can use xiaomi.eu rom with root, twrp and x-posed network if needed. That should do for now.
Thanks again, my friend. I anticipate your reply.

https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...r-xiaomi-mi5-unlocked-bl-only-released.31231/
If you chose method 1 (fastboot) you'll end with TWRP installed aswell. From there just flash SuperSu and done. After that you can update via updater app to last version. My advice is to stay away from Nougat for now. Is still under development and all additions are just under the hood. No new features. If you have any issues with unlocking the bootloader you can literally ask in any thread...the community is more active there. And unlike XDA you won't get an "wrong thread stupid!" or an "use the search button damn it!".
Xposed works just fine but you need this version http://en.miui.com/thread-273424-1-1.html
About CM14.1 don't get me wrong...things are moving fast. And the progress made in just 2-3 weeks its amazing. I just don't think it is what it should be on a gifted phone.
-Hey babe! Merry Xmas! This is your Xmas present: a brand new Xiaomi MI5!.
-Awww...thanks hun! Anything i should know about this phone babe?
-Ummmm...yes...
-What?
-The selfies you are going to take...
-What about my selfies?
-Not really Facebook/Instagram ready...and you know? Sometimes if you switch off WiFi data connection won't work... But it's all good...you just need to turn on and off airplane mode
-Ummmm...ok. I assume I'm happy with your Xmas gift
Time is passing...few days later, New Year Day...your girlfriend wants to take a look at the videos she recorded at New Years Eve party....suddenly...
-Baaaaaaaaaabe!
-What!?
- I can't find my videos from last night
- Ummm...i forgot to tell you something
- What????
- Video recording is broken...

vladimir_carlan said:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...r-xiaomi-mi5-unlocked-bl-only-released.31231/
If you chose method 1 (fastboot) you'll end with TWRP installed aswell. From there just flash SuperSu and done. After that you can update via updater app to last version. My advice is to stay away from Nougat for now. Is still under development and all additions are just under the hood. No new features. If you have any issues with unlocking the bootloader you can literally ask in any thread...the community is more active there. And unlike XDA you won't get an "wrong thread stupid!" or an "use the search button damn it!".
Xposed works just fine but you need this version http://en.miui.com/thread-273424-1-1.html
About CM14.1 don't get me wrong...things are moving fast. And the progress made in just 2-3 weeks its amazing. I just don't think it is what it should be on a gifted phone.
-Hey babe! Merry Xmas! This is your Xmas present: a brand new Xiaomi MI5!.
-Awww...thanks hun! Anything i should know about this phone babe?
-Ummmm...yes...
-What?
-The selfies you are going to take...
-What about my selfies?
-Not really Facebook/Instagram ready...and you know? Sometimes if you switch off WiFi data connection won't work... But it's all good...you just need to turn on and off airplane mode
-Ummmm...ok. I assume I'm happy with your Xmas gift
Time is passing...few days later, New Year Day...your girlfriend wants to take a look at the videos she recorded at New Years Eve party....suddenly...
-Baaaaaaaaaabe!
-What!?
- I can't find my videos from last night
- Ummm...i forgot to tell you something
- What????
- Video recording is broken...
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Thanks again for your reply, Vladimir. The nice thing about the MI5 is that MIUI has had time to have some of the bugs ironed out so I agree that it would be foolish to jump straight into CM 14.1 without giving it time to mature. My girlfriend cares not one bit for technical things and, you're right, would not understand why things don't work properly and would think that I had bought her a lemon of a phone.
Can I ask you one more thing, my friend? The more I read (and with your help) the more I learn, but I am always coming across contradictions. For example, I thought with a locked bootloader one had to use a deepflash cable to overwrite the bootloader via MiFlash and fastboot. Here are the instructions I found which clearly delineate between unlocked bootloader and normal usb cable, and locked bootloader with deepflash engineering cable.
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-flash-miui-global-stable-rom-on-mi-5-running-china-stable-rom/
Is this the only way to go to China Dev rom i.e. do I need to order a deepflash cable? I am confused.
Thanks again for all your help, I can assure you it is very much appreciated especially the part about flashing the EU rom with TWRP. That sounds just what I need.
Cheers,
p.s. thanks for pointing me to the right xposed module too!

imgettingold said:
One step at the time then fellas. To get bootloader unlock I must be on a dev rom. Can I flash straight to Global Dev using the "Updater" app? thanks
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imgettingold said:
Thanks again for your reply, Vladimir. The nice thing about the MI5 is that MIUI has had time to have some of the bugs ironed out so I agree that it would be foolish to jump straight into CM 14.1 without giving it time to mature. My girlfriend cares not one bit for technical things and, you're right, would not understand why things don't work properly and would think that I had bought her a lemon of a phone.
Can I ask you one more thing, my friend? The more I read (and with your help) the more I learn, but I am always coming across contradictions. For example, I thought with a locked bootloader one had to use a deepflash cable to overwrite the bootloader via MiFlash and fastboot. Here are the instructions I found which clearly delineate between unlocked bootloader and normal usb cable, and locked bootloader with deepflash engineering cable.
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-flash-miui-global-stable-rom-on-mi-5-running-china-stable-rom/
Is this the only way to go to China Dev rom i.e. do I need to order a deepflash cable? I am confused.
Thanks again for all your help, I can assure you it is very much appreciated especially the part about flashing the EU rom with TWRP. That sounds just what I need.
Cheers,
p.s. thanks for pointing me to the right xposed module too!
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My bad. You need MI PC Suite. Here is a guide:
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-fix-bricked-mi-5-with-locked-bootloader-and-update-to-global-rom/
Don't pay attention to the "bricked device" in the title. The procedure is the same. This is what I used to go from the fake rom to chinese dev one. Keep in mind that you need to download RECOVERY roms and in MI PC Suite you need to chose RECOVERY FLASH (R.Flash).

Ahh, now it makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Apologies for the slight delay in getting back to you Vladimir. I've typed up two verbose replies and lost them because XDA logged me out whilst writing them so I'll keep this one brief.
You emphasized using the recovery ROM, but do you have a link perchance for the china dev recovery as I've only been able to find a link for the global stable rom in flashboot and recovery flavours. The only link I have for china dev is this one
http://en.miui.com/download-299.html#435
and that does not specify recovery, so flashboot should be assumed?
Thanks again, friend, and wishing you (and your girlfriend) a Merry Christmas whilst I have your ear.

imgettingold said:
Ahh, now it makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Apologies for the slight delay in getting back to you Vladimir. I've typed up two verbose replies and lost them because XDA logged me out whilst writing them so I'll keep this one brief.
You emphasized using the recovery ROM, but do you have a link perchance for the china dev recovery as I've only been able to find a link for the global stable rom in flashboot and recovery flavours. The only link I have for china dev is this one
http://en.miui.com/download-299.html#435
and that does not specify recovery, so flashboot should be assumed?
Thanks again, friend, and wishing you (and your girlfriend) a Merry Christmas whilst I have your ear.
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If I remember correctly, when you do R.Flash in MI PC Suite you can chose the MIUI Version (Stable or Dev) and the download will be made automatically.

imgettingold said:
The phone currently has the global stable rom installed, and I understand that I need to flash over that before I can get the bootloader unlocked, and I can do so by using the built in "updater" app to flash the rom that will allow the BL unlock.
QUESTION: What is the best Rom to use? Can I unlock bootloader with a Global Dev Rom, or does it need to be a China Variant?
Once I have flashed a rom that will allow the bootloader to be unlocked, I need to follow the unlocking procedure, wait for it to be authorised by Xiaomi, then use the Mi Unlock tool.
From there, I can flash TWRP via fastboot, and once that is done, flash CM, and finally SuperSU.
Have I got all of that right, my friends, or would anyone else do anything differently?
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Hello,
I have to disagree with Vladimir.
Your description of actions is spot-on.
I have done exactly that and i am very happy with CM13 (not CM14.1 i agree on that one )
If you do flash CM, DO NOT flash SuperSU.
Root is build in CM, just activate the Developer Options and in there is the option to activate root.
But i have been using MIUI8 for about 2 weeks. 1 week waiting for unlock (problems with getting the permissions to my account) and later again 1 week to try the latest version.
Both times i had much trouble with apps being killed in the background, because MIUI is much more aggressive in killing background tasks and that is not changeable as far as i could find. That is why the battery seems to last longer. But i have in CM the same battery settings active and CM lasts just as long as the MIUI versions i had.
Also there were a lot of bugs in both versions of MIUI, that made it almost impossible for me to use it for my work.
So i would suggest, follow you own steps and first try the MIUI that you installed and if you have some problems, flash CM13 and try that for a week.
Then make a choice of what you want to use in the future.
About the MIUI flash version: if you have Global now, just upgrade via the app to the developer version. Since you already know that version, just use that one.
Chinese version is only in Chinese and English.
Global has some more languages.

Anyway unlocking bootloader works on China Stable too. Not only on Dev version. But you still need to install the China Stable. You called your girlfriend "missus" therefore I assume you are in UK and you bought your phone from an online reseller. MI5 sold by resellers are coming with a "fake" ROM.

elot01 said:
Hello,
I have to disagree with Vladimir.
Your description of actions is spot-on.
I have done exactly that and i am very happy with CM13 (not CM14.1 i agree on that one )
If you do flash CM, DO NOT flash SuperSU.
Root is build in CM, just activate the Developer Options and in there is the option to activate root.
But i have been using MIUI8 for about 2 weeks. 1 week waiting for unlock (problems with getting the permissions to my account) and later again 1 week to try the latest version.
Both times i had much trouble with apps being killed in the background, because MIUI is much more aggressive in killing background tasks and that is not changeable as far as i could find. That is why the battery seems to last longer. But i have in CM the same battery settings active and CM lasts just as long as the MIUI versions i had.
Also there were a lot of bugs in both versions of MIUI, that made it almost impossible for me to use it for my work.
So i would suggest, follow you own steps and first try the MIUI that you installed and if you have some problems, flash CM13 and try that for a week.
Then make a choice of what you want to use in the future.
About the MIUI flash version: if you have Global now, just upgrade via the app to the developer version. Since you already know that version, just use that one.
Chinese version is only in Chinese and English.
Global has some more languages.
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Memory management it is changeable in MIUI. There's an option for that in Developer Settings. By default it's set on on "middle" and indeed it is quite aggressive. But if you set it on "low" or "off" (my personal choice" and at the same time you turn off battery saving mode which is set on by default your apps won't be killed in the background. When I wake up in the morning (waken by alaram which never been killed by the way) my Need for Speed No limits is always where I left it in the evening.

What theme is that? it looks awesome

PetritH said:
What theme is that? it looks awesome
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Nightshade! Link: http://zhuti.xiaomi.com/detail/378b1e4d-156e-4c98-b483-8f857b3fea09

vladimir_carlan said:
Memory management it is changeable in MIUI. There's an option for that in Developer Settings. By default it's set on on "middle" and indeed it is quite aggressive. But if you set it on "low" or "off" (my personal choice" and at the same time you turn off battery saving mode which is set on by default your apps won't be killed in the background. When I wake up in the morning (waken by alaram which never been killed by the way) my Need for Speed No limits is always where I left it in the evening.
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Hmmm, strange.
I have only seen the option to set the background apps to a max of 5, no Off option.
But whatever the options, i still suggest to everybody to try the MIUI first for a week or so and later try the CM13 or CM14.1 version and make your own choice after that.
If MIUI works for someone, stay on it, else use CMxx

elot01 said:
Hmmm, strange.
I have only seen the option to set the background apps to a max of 5, no Off option.
But whatever the options, i still suggest to everybody to try the MIUI first for a week or so and later try the CM13 or CM14.1 version and make your own choice after that.
If MIUI works for someone, stay on it, else use CMxx
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On a normal situation i would suggest the same. Or even not to make any suggestion at all. In this case I did it because OP mentioned that the phone is going to be a gift for his girlfriend. If I'd gift a phone I'd gift a reliable phone. And as of today even the official CM maintainer don't think CM is reliable. If he'd consider that CM is reliable will have at least one snapshot/milestone and not only nightlies.
About Memory optimisation is a different option in Developer options. Is not part of Background processes limit.

vladimir_carlan said:
And as of today even the official CM maintainer don't think CM is reliable. If he'd consider that CM is reliable will have at least one snapshot/milestone and not only nightlies.
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The CM13 version is reliable and also has normal releases, not only Nightly's.
I have been using it since a few months now on my Mi5 (before that alsmost 2 years on the Mi 4i)
I agree on Cm14.1, not stable enough for me, but CM13 is absolutely stable.

I have unknown device error while unlocking bootloader. Anyone with similar issue bypassed it and unlocked BL? Pls help me.
Thanks in advance

plikmuny said:
I have unknown device error while unlocking bootloader. Anyone with similar issue bypassed it and unlocked BL? Pls help me.
Thanks in advance
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Hi again, I just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who posted in this thread (particularly Vladimir and elot101). I've had to sort a couple of things out on the car which have prevented me from having a play on the phone, and with Christmas so close I decided discretion was the better part of valour, and giving the phone as is to my girlfriend to ensure that my Christmas present to her is not a brick, then prying it off her a few days later and flashing Dev, and pestering Xiaomi for an unlock because an Android phone without root, firewall, X-posed privacy module and titanium back-up may as well be an Apple product as far as I'm concerned.
I give you my word that I will bump this thread and let you know my experiences (good or bad) so that I can contribute back to the sum knowledge of this topic.
If anyone is reading this, something that I suspected but was not sure of that I would like to confirm for someone else like me is that recovery roms end with a .zip extension and fastboot ones have a .tgz if you are having trouble distinguishing them. Elementary perhaps, but it's always nice to have these things confirmed.
Merry Christmas guys. I hope everyone gets whatever they want, even if that's a smile from a loved one.
Best wishes

Help getting started.

Hello. I just bought my brand new Oneplus 3T. I came from the LG G4. I always used custom roms on my android phones. Unfortunately I have a job now and I don't have much time to play/test all these roms around here.
I'm not asking "the best rom" or "which is better" sort of things.
I just need an opinion for what should I begin with?
I would prefer some stock based rom.
As about the kernel I heard a lot about Franco's kernel but I saw that there is Boeffla kernel too.
Don't get me wrong, I just need something to start from because as I mentioned above I don't have much time to test and choose which is best for me.
Thank you!

I have tested many ROM's and I always come to the same conclusion. Stock is better. I recommend you to use stock OOS, root it and mod it as you wish. It's a powerful OS, without much bloatware (which can anyways be easily removed) and it offers a decent amount of customization. Of course, it's not as customizable as RR, but RR is also unstable and doesn't offer the same camera quality. In fact, most ROMs have a crappy camera. Except PA, apparently, which, of course, has other problems, like idle battery drain. You'll find something that won't make you happy in every rom you try. That was, at least, my experience. I have come to the conclusion that OOS does its job well.

luptatorul said:
I have tested many ROM's and I always come to the same conclusion. Stock is better. I recommend you to use stock OOS, root it and mod it as you wish. It's a powerful OS, without much bloatware (which can anyways be easily removed) and it offers a decent amount of customization. Of course, it's not as customizable as RR, but RR is also unstable and doesn't offer the same camera quality. In fact, most ROMs have a crappy camera. Except PA, apparently, which, of course, has other problems, like idle battery drain. You'll find something that won't make you happy in every rom you try. That was, at least, my experience. I have come to the conclusion that OOS does its job well.
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This is exactly what I want. I don't want a LineageOS based rom or something like this.
I want a STOCK based rom.
But I don't know with which rom should I start because I saw that there are a few.

Hmm, I'd say freedomOS. It's a very stable ROM, "daily driver" material. It gives you the option to kinda debloat it when you flash the ROM

If you are looking for maximum battery with average use then go for RR with EX Kernel.

Yeah Freedom OS is kind to install because you don't have to do the usual stuff manually, but I've personnaly not noticed anything you can't get on stock OOS.
I'd advice to stay stock, and if later you still want to try some new things there will be plenty of mod material here

If you want something else...try Phoenix AEX ROM..
Really different experience...( EAS based )

Hi, when you are new with this phone I personally would recommend OxygenOpen Beta.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/coming-update-oos-based-7-1-t3564240
This Rom has everything you want, for me absolut stable and has all features you need for normal use. Worth to have a look.
I always had custom Roms on my earlier phones, but this stock Rom is the best I have ever seen. I have unlocked bootloader and rootet phone but since I have my phone (since May) I flashed this Rom and there is no reason for me to change it:angel:
Greets, reinipic

ilooze said:
I always used custom roms on my android phones.
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Don't feel like you need to flash a custom ROM, just because you "always have". Try the stock OOS for a bit, you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Stock OOS is very impressive. Very little bloat, really close to stock Android, nice customization options, and it just works. It's a big departure from the manufacturer "skins" applied by LG, Samsung, etc. which often (in my opinion) make too many changes, with little added value.
Although, I would suggest unlocking the bootloader now (instead of waiting) even if you do intend to try out the stock ROM for a while. Sinceit is a bit annoying having your data wiped (by unlocking the bootloader - it can't be avoided) and having to setup everything again, if you do decide to install a custom ROM, kernels, etc.

Stick to OOS. It's the best, really. Sultanxda's lineage is amazing for starters.
And Franco kernel on OOS is also "legendary"
Nevertheless, it's upto you to try and tell yourself what rom/kernel suits your needs.
Cheers!

That's the mistake you use custom roms. I always have stock rom on my every device

Stock open beta 10 with custom kernel(optional to remove dm verity flag) + magisk + safety net pass + adway + google assistant + dark mode.... thats it !

Stock rom or Custom Rom

Hello there,
I am using a google nexus 6. I am on nougat 7.1.1. But from the October security patch my phone is too slow. And now i got an idea to change to custom rom. I want to know which is best.. Stock Rom or Custom Rom? If Custom Rom which one you prefer? Please help me to find a good one.
Thanks!

can you read ?
this is Nexus 6 Android Development thread not Q&A ! go to Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting thread and ask anything you like !
and please read this :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/thread-t3603186

@pinkfloyd3: Your response was needlessly harsh, not to mention it being borderline flaming. All you really needed to do is report the post and the moderators would have moved it. So keep that in mind in the future, capisci?
achchu93 said:
I am using a google nexus 6. I am on nougat 7.1.1. But from the October security patch my phone is too slow. And now i got an idea to change to custom rom. I want to know which is best.. Stock Rom or Custom Rom? If Custom Rom which one you prefer? Please help me to find a good one.
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There are no more official updates to the Nexus 6, so if you wish to upgrade the device further you will have little choice but to use a custom ROM. As for what ROM is best for you, that's a question we can't answer. The only thing we can tell you is to try them out to see which one is best for you. Now, as to what custom ROMs we prefer, let's rephrase your question so it reads, "If Custom Rom which one do you use?" as that is what you are actually asking. The responses you get will inevitably fall along the lines of "I use ROM X" anyway.
For example, I use Pure Nexus. It's not Android 8 although the developer has been working on an Android 8 version. However it has the right balance of features for me; it's not stuffed to the gills with features but isn't stock either. Naturally there are Android 8 ROMs out there, and right now the closest to Pure Nexus in having that balance of features is Validus. Even though Validus is officially still in beta it was a very stable ROM when I tried it out. So take a look at the ROMs available, try them out, and choose the one that fits best to you.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@pinkfloyd3: Your response was needlessly harsh, not to mention it being borderline flaming. All you really needed to do is report the post and the moderators would have moved it. So keep that in mind in the future, capisci?
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ok i apologize from both of you 
 @achchu93
In my opinion :
7.1.2 : PN (Pure Nexus)
8: currently sixrom v2.1 good for me !
sourcebuilt oreo rom : more stable
GZR Validus : not use it now if your phone is encryption ! you lose all you data
this is my opinion It may not be right
sorry for my bad english

@pinkfloyd3 : I am really sorry. I am not well experienced in this thread stuffs. I was in a curious to upgrade my phone. Thats why i posted here. Sorry if it bothers you.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@pinkfloyd3: Your response was needlessly harsh, not to mention it being borderline flaming. All you really needed to do is report the post and the moderators would have moved it. So keep that in mind in the future, capisci?
There are no more official updates to the Nexus 6, so if you wish to upgrade the device further you will have little choice but to use a custom ROM. As for what ROM is best for you, that's a question we can't answer. The only thing we can tell you is to try them out to see which one is best for you. Now, as to what custom ROMs we prefer, let's rephrase your question so it reads, "If Custom Rom which one do you use?" as that is what you are actually asking. The responses you get will inevitably fall along the lines of "I use ROM X" anyway.
For example, I use Pure Nexus. It's not Android 8 although the developer has been working on an Android 8 version. However it has the right balance of features for me; it's not stuffed to the gills with features but isn't stock either. Naturally there are Android 8 ROMs out there, and right now the closest to Pure Nexus in having that balance of features is Validus. Even though Validus is officially still in beta it was a very stable ROM when I tried it out. So take a look at the ROMs available, try them out, and choose the one that fits best to you.
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Thanks alot for your reply. I tried Pure Nexus with Franco kernel. You know both of them impressed me in a great way. after flashing franco kernal my phone is working like a jet. Really happy with this custom rom and kernal.
But still i see lot of people supporting dark rom. It is customized version of Lineage OS right? What do you think about that?

LineageOS is "lipstick on a pig" (look it up). They used Cyanogenmod as a base instead of starting over, meaning they used a base full of untested code. Because of that, it doesn't touch my devices.
The LineageOS devs should have started from scratch. It would have taken longer to get up and running, but the code would be clean and tested.

Well, if you want to keep yourself updated with the latest security patches (and probably features as well) then for this ageing phone, a custom ROM is better than stock all day long.
I'm using Dirty Unicorns 11.7.2, since is most up to date and very stable. PN is a good choice as well.