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Where can I buy an unlocked Note 3 N9005 that would work with AT&T?

I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?

Earthbrain said:
I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?
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I don't think there is such a thing like a 16gb note 3. At least not yet.

xclub_101 said:
I don't think there is such a thing like a 16gb note 3. At least not yet.
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http://negrielectronics.com/phones/android-mobile-c-67.html
According to the above link...the 16 gb version does exist.

Does the n9005 model have AT&T LTE for sure?
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Earthbrain said:
I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?
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Before committed to pay big $ for the phone ... check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964

I'd buy what you're looking for in a heartbeat - if it existed. So far it doesn't. At least not ln any of the N3's for the UK, EU, or Latin America that have been announced. The Korean S-800 SGS4 supports AT&T's bands so their N3 probably will also. But the Korean phones have funky TV h/w and a funky MMS system that's different than Western versions. Rogers' (Canada) version will be compatible with AT&T LTE and may be closer to "virgin" than AT&T's version. The challenge is warranty service both because you'd have to send it to Canada for repair (assuming Rogers' services a phone for a non-subscriber) and because Knox prevents resetting the warranty status if a non-standard ROM's been flashed. Speaking of which, you'd probably only be able to flash Rogers' ROMs via Odin unless their N3 was a "pure" i9505 capable of using international ROMs.
And as someone above mentioned there's some question as to what "unlocked" means with the N3 as there are now regional limitations on top of carrier's locking phones to their networks.
If I find a true international N3 that works on AT&T's LTE that's not regionally SIM locked I'll let you know. Until then I'm sticking with AT&T's version and hoping they haven't molested it too badly.

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Lets knock off the keyboard hero stuff and get back on topic.

The N9005 doesn't work on AT&T LTE, it is missing bands 700/1700

designgears said:
The N9005 doesn't work on AT&T LTE, it is missing bands 700/1700
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Will the N9005 work on the Rogers network in Canada? I have no idea what these bands and frequencies mean, I just know that I need LTE to work.

choch69 said:
Will the N9005 work on the Rogers network in Canada? I have no idea what these bands and frequencies mean, I just know that I need LTE to work.
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You can't just say "N9005" and expect to get an answer. "N9005" refers to generic Snapdragon 800 LTE capable version of GN3, but each country and carrier in the world has different LTE bands enabled in that Snapdragon's SoC radio. Find your Rogers here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It operates on bands 4 and 7 - none of the Euro countries' carriers work on band 4, as you can see from the list. AT&T USA, T-Mobile USA and Rogers CA should be LTE cross compatible in most coverage areas, but not all.
If you buy N9005 version with unlocked bootloader - later, when someone makes Odin compatible with GN3 you will be able to flash Roger's LTE modem firmware to your N9005, no matter which country it is from and what LTE bands it currently has enabled

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Okay well I was looking to buy an unlocked N9005 from the UK. Since none of the euro countries work on band 4, what about band 7? Do both bands need to be working in order to get LTE? The problem with buying this in my country is that there wont be a 64gb option available.

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Okay well I was looking to buy an unlocked N9005 from the UK. Since none of the euro countries work on band 4, what about band 7? Do both bands need to be working in order to get LTE? The problem with buying this in my country is that there wont be a 64gb option available.
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Some carriers, which operate on dual band LTE use one band for upstream, and the other for downstream. If that is the case with Rogers you will have to have a phone with both bands enabled, to get LTE service from Rogers. However, even if that is not the case and both bands 4 and 7 are independent - Rogers has towers all over Canada, and in some regions those towers will operate on band 4, in other regions it will be band 7 and in some places towers will support both. By getting a phone that supports only band 7 you will greatly reduce your LTE coverage area. What percentage of Rogers' network uses what band - those details are publicly available, so you can either Google it or just call Rogers and ask. I would recommend against getting a phone, that supports only band 7, unless you plan on flashing Roger's modem to it later.

This not quite correct. A band, by definition includes both the up and downstream frequencies. Only one band is used at a time. Rogers happens to use band 4 and band 7. One is not reliant on the other. If you are in an area with band 7 coverage (most of Rogers LTE coverage has both) you will be able to use a N9005.
Apo11on said:
Some carriers, which operate on dual band LTE use one band for upstream, and the other for downstream. If that is the case with Rogers you will have to have a phone with both bands enabled, to get LTE service from Rogers. However, even if that is not the case and both bands 4 and 7 are independent - Rogers has towers all over Canada, and in some regions those towers will operate on band 4, in other regions it will be band 7 and in some places towers will support both. By getting a phone that supports only band 7 you will greatly reduce your LTE coverage area. What percentage of Rogers' network uses what band - those details are publicly available, so you can either Google it or just call Rogers and ask. I would recommend against getting a phone, that supports only band 7, unless you plan on flashing Roger's modem to it later.
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omegacell said:
This not quite correct. A band, by definition includes both the up and downstream frequencies. Only one band is used at a time. Rogers happens to use band 4 and band 7. One is not reliant on the other. If you are in an area with band 7 coverage (most of Rogers LTE coverage has both) you will be able to use a N9005.
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you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.

Apo11on said:
you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.
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The OP needs to take into consideration that If he buys from an online retailer an international unit, this unit will need to be activated in its intended region before he can use it in the states.

Apo11on said:
you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.
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I've never heard of that. Seems like a problematic setup since the RF properties of bands can vary so much. Seems like you would get in a situation where you have up but not downstream or vice versa.
Yes, you would need a N9005 from Asia, not Europe as those are region locked.

omegacell said:
Yes, you would need a N9005 from Asia, not Europe as those are region locked.
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Do you have a link for a source, where you got that information from? Or better yet - list of countries/markets, where GN3 will not be region locked?

Apo11on said:
Do you have a link for a source, where you got that information from? Or better yet - list of countries/markets, where GN3 will not be region locked?
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Email me or hit me me up through my site. We're a retailer/wholesaler, not sure if I'm allowed to post about that since it would be "advertising".

omegacell said:
Email me or hit me me up through my site. We're a retailer/wholesaler, not sure if I'm allowed to post about that since it would be "advertising".
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that is a valuable information, which a lot of people, watching this thread could use, not just me. I don't think it will be considered as advertising. People in this thread are looking to buy international GN3, which will work on AT&T in US. If the phone is region locked then it won't work. Therefore, listing the countries, where there is no region lock would be very much relevant to this topic.

Apo11on said:
that is a valuable information, which a lot of people, watching this thread could use, not just me. I don't think it will be considered as advertising. People in this thread are looking to buy international GN3, which will work on AT&T in US. If the phone is region locked then it won't work. Therefore, listing the countries, where there is no region lock would be very much relevant to this topic.[/QUOTEN
N9005 from HK or Singapore (perhaps others too) will work.
The South American N9000 are region locked to South American, North American, carribean etc. SIM cards (western hemisphere).
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[Q] Activate band 20 on xt1058

Hi,
I recently purchased a new xt1058 on ebay, it's the US model i belive, but LTE doesn't work in france.
xt1058 have 2/4/5/7/17 bands activated and LTE in france is 20.
Is there any way to change that ? Can I switch modem files from xt1052 rom (EU version) ?
I'm running kk 4.4.4 212.44.26.ghost_row.RCI.en.CA version.
Thanks!

According to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Europe
France carriers also use band 7 (along with 20). So if you have the proper carrier, you should be fine.

Emiliano55 said:
France carriers also use band 7 (along with 20). So if you have the proper carrier, you should be fine.
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I think the problem is that LTE on band 7 is only on 2600MHz, only band 20 use 800MHz in France

There are 2 different bands mate. One is 2600mhz and the other is 800Mhz. According to Wiki, there are carriers in France that uses 2600Mhz as frecuency for LTE. If that's the case, you should be fine. Look at the link I pasted before.

Emiliano55 said:
There are 2 different bands mate. One is 2600mhz and the other is 800Mhz. According to Wiki, there are carriers in France that uses 2600Mhz as frecuency for LTE. If that's the case, you should be fine. Look at the link I pasted before.
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The problem is the moto x use only 850/900/1900/2100 frequencies , not 2600 MHz.

Thibzzz said:
The problem is the moto x use only 850/900/1900/2100 frequencies , not 2600 MHz.
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Those are the 3G bands that the Moto X supports. Not LTE bands. You are confusing things here.
XT1058 uses LTE bands 2/4/5/7/17 (look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_(1st_generation)#Variants)
Hence, it uses 1900/1700/850/2600/700.

Many carriers in the EU use band 20 in most cities, the official reason is, band 20 covers more area and only band 7 is used in cluster areas, such as football stadiums, airports, central train stations etc.
At least thats what the German carriers say.
So its mainly an economic decision to use band 20 for regular urban areas and only use band 7 (which doesn't cover so much km²) in the cluster areas.
There is a user who is currently editing some files to enable software wise other LTE frequencies for the Droid, have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/droid-turbo-conquers-europe-t2995343/page3
This however, will only enable the LTE bands software wise, it hasn't been tested yet, if the LTE works then in the EU for band 20 or if its a hardware limitation or if you need to flash the EU modem, too

dagoban said:
Many carriers in the EU use band 20 in most cities, the official reason is, band 20 covers more area and only band 7 is used in cluster areas, such as football stadiums, airports, central train stations etc.
At least thats what the German carriers say.
So its mainly an economic decision to use band 20 for regular urban areas and only use band 7 (which doesn't cover so much km²) in the cluster areas.
There is a user who is currently editing some files to enable software wise other LTE frequencies for the Droid, have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/droid-turbo-conquers-europe-t2995343/page3
This however, will only enable the LTE bands software wise, it hasn't been tested yet, if the LTE works then in the EU for band 20 or if its a hardware limitation or if you need to flash the EU modem, too
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I tried to enable bands 3,7 and 20 on my XT1053 and it didn't work for me.

sanez said:
I tried to enable bands 3,7 and 20 on my XT1053 and it didn't work for me.
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What exactly did you try? Flashing the other radio / modem file or by unlocking it in the software or both?

dagoban said:
What exactly did you try? Flashing the other radio / modem file or by unlocking it in the software or both?
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I have since months xt1052 fw with 1053 radio and this allowed me to have Italian language and 3G/H+ working fine. xt1052 radio don't work at all on US devices.
Tried last week to enable bands modifying NV strings via QXDM but there's not effect. GSM and WCDMA are good, but no LTE. I guess is hw limitation, or some other NV items must be changed to get it working.

Emiliano55 said:
Those are the 3G bands that the Moto X supports. Not LTE bands. You are confusing things here.
XT1058 uses LTE bands 2/4/5/7/17
Hence, it uses 1900/1700/850/2600/700.
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Ok, thanks for the clarification
By the way, there is a nice wiki who talks about french LTE bands, and according to it, band 7 @2600Mhz is used by 3 carriers, including mine, but no LTE on my moto x...
As Dagoban said, carriers must mainly use band 20 @800mhz to cover large areas.

How do I check the supported LTE Bands?

Is there an easy way to check the supported LTE bands on a OPO 3T?
I'm going to china soon (beijing). Someone confirmed he bought a 3T in Shanghai in the "Europe/Asia" Model version (which supports Band 20 that need) even though I think they should have sold the Mainland China Version (no Band 20).
Now I'd rather not trust some store clerk with that, because in the end I have no way of returning the phone if Band 20 doesnt work. Can I check the supported bands on the phone in the store myself?

You can check it here http://willmyphonework.net
Just fill out the 3T version, country and carrier
Then, it'll tell you what bands work and if you could get LTE or not...

He's asking if supported bands can be checked on the device in hand.

donalgodon said:
He's asking if supported bands can be checked on the device in hand.
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My bad, I misunderstood the question xd

Will the A3010 work well in Europe?

I'm about to buy a OnePlus 3T.
I live in Sweden and travel in Europe from time to time.
Will the A3010 work well for me (even with 4G)?
I have already looked at willmyphonework.net/ but it only says:
"Device is compatible with some of the network carriers frequencies. It may work."
What practical advantages would I notice with a A3003(European version) vs the A3010(China version)?

white-k said:
I'm about to buy a OnePlus 3T.
I live in Sweden and travel in Europe from time to time.
Will the A3010 work well for me (even with 4G)?
I have already looked at willmyphonework.net/ but it only says:
"Device is compatible with some of the network carriers frequencies. It may work."
What practical advantages would I notice with a A3003(European version) vs the A3010(China version)?
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The main difference between OnePlus 3T A3003 and A3010 is the A3003 supports LTE band 1/3/5/7/8/20/38/40, which is the international model while A3010 supports LTE band 1/3/5/7/8/38/39/40/41, which is the China model.
basically you wont have support for this bands on 4G

white-k said:
I'm about to buy a OnePlus 3T.
I live in Sweden and travel in Europe from time to time.
Will the A3010 work well for me (even with 4G)?
I have already looked at willmyphonework.net/ but it only says:
"Device is compatible with some of the network carriers frequencies. It may work."
What practical advantages would I notice with a A3003(European version) vs the A3010(China version)?
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The only LTE band that is missing on A3010 is Band20. Most of Sweden network carriers are using Band7 so you are good to go. When you go aboard is a different story. But you are also more flexible because you can chose the roaming network. All you have to do is to chose a supported network carrier.

alvin182 said:
The main difference between OnePlus 3T A3003 and A3010 is the A3003 supports LTE band 1/3/5/7/8/20/38/40, which is the international model while A3010 supports LTE band 1/3/5/7/8/38/39/40/41, which is the China model.
basically you wont have support for this bands on 4G
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I'm confused by this. By those numbers it seems that the China model covers all the numbers as the Europe mode,l plus a few more. If so, then what bands are missing?
Or doesn't it work that way? Please help me understand
Edit: Oh... I missed to see band 20. But what does it mean practically that the China model misses band 20? How will I notice it?

vladimir_carlan said:
The only LTE band that is missing on A3010 is Band20. Most of Sweden network carriers are using Band7 so you are good to go. When you go aboard is a different story. But you are also more flexible because you can chose the roaming network. All you have to do is to chose a supported network carrier.
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Okay. What does it mean practically that the China model misses band 20?
How would I be likely to notice it when using my phone?

white-k said:
Okay. What does it mean practically that the China model misses band 20?
How would I be likely to notice it when using my phone?
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On a network that is using Band20 you'll have only HSDPA connectivity. Basically the phone will work just fine except the fact you won't have LTE connectivity. You'd have only 2G/3G/H+

vladimir_carlan said:
On a network that is using Band20 you'll have only HSDPA connectivity. Basically the phone will work just fine except the fact you won't have LTE connectivity. You'd have only 2G/3G/H+
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Thank you. It's getting somewhat clearer. Okay, but how likely am I to run in to Band20? Is that band (the only one missing from China model) more likely to be used than any of all of the other bands that are listed?

white-k said:
Thank you. It's getting somewhat clearer. Okay, but how likely am I to run in to Band20? Is that band (the only one missing from China model) more likely to be used than any of all of the other bands that are listed?
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I'll give you the UK example. In UK there's 3 LTE bands in use: 3,7 and 20. Other put 2600Mhz, 1800Mhz and 800Mhz (that's Band20 btw...). Only O2 is using only Band 20. All other providers are using at least one extra LTE band. EE is using all three LTE bands, Vodafone is using band 3 and band 20 and Three is using band 7 and band 20.
Now here is the thing... Those network checkers are telling that your device might work. But is not always the case. Here is the Vodafone UK example. As I said they are using Band 3 and Band 20. Now let's take a phone with Band3 but not Band 20 (for example my former Xiaomi Mi5). Will work on LTE but only in urban areas. Why? Because in rural areas the band used are band 7 and 20. Why? Lower frequencies are better at travelling long distances so are more suitable for rural areas where there are fewer masts. Also Band 20 provide better indoor coverage. But if you live in an urban area Band 3 and 7 are more likely to be used. The higher the frequency means higher capacity and therefore the ability to deal with more users which is a must in an urban area.
All in all the best way is to call your provider and ask what frequency they are using in YOUR area. If they are using 1800Mhz or 2600Mhz you are good to go. If not...I'm sorry.
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Just for my curiosity why are interested on a China version and not on a Europe one?

Here is the list of LTE bands used by Sweden network carriers. Take a look at it and you'll see if China version is good to go on your provider.

If you're primarily going to use it in Sweden, I would go with the A3003 (that's what I did, but then I seldom leave Jämtland ?).

vladimir_carlan said:
I'll give you the UK example. In UK there's 3 LTE bands in use: 3,7 and 20. Other put 2600Mhz, 1800Mhz and 800Mhz (that's Band20 btw...). Only O2 is using only Band 20. All other providers are using at least one extra LTE band. EE is using all three LTE bands, Vodafone is using band 3 and band 20 and Three is using band 7 and band 20.
Now here is the thing... Those network checkers are telling that your device might work. But is not always the case. Here is the Vodafone UK example. As I said they are using Band 3 and Band 20. Now let's take a phone with Band3 but not Band 20 (for example my former Xiaomi Mi5). Will work on LTE but only in urban areas. Why? Because in rural areas the band used are band 7 and 20. Why? Lower frequencies are better at travelling long distances so are more suitable for rural areas where there are fewer masts. Also Band 20 provide better indoor coverage. But if you live in an urban area Band 3 and 7 are more likely to be used. The higher the frequency means higher capacity and therefore the ability to deal with more users which is a must in an urban area.
All in all the best way is to call your provider and ask what frequency they are using in YOUR area. If they are using 1800Mhz or 2600Mhz you are good to go. If not...I'm sorry.
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Just for my curiosity why are interested on a China version and not on a Europe one?
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Wow. Now that was a good response! You really seem to know your stuff! Cool. :good:
Okay. Now I understand things a lot better too.
I use Telenor (and spend quite some time in Jämtland (rural) like another poster here:good.
Well I plan to buy my phone on ebay and the annoying thing is that the A3003 is about $100 more expensive than the A3010. I still think it is hard to decide if it will be worth an extra $100 for the Europe version...

You should not only consider LTE Bands, but also consider LTE CA.
Hong Kong/ Europe Model (A3003)
FDD-LTE/ 4G: Bands 1/3/5/7/8/20
TDD-LTE/ 4G: Bands 38/40
LTE CA / 4G+:
B3+B7, B3+B8, B3+B20, B7+B20, B3+B3, B3C, B7+B7, B7C, B40C
China Model (A3010)
FDD-LTE/ 4G : Bands 1/3/5/7/8
TDD-LTE/ 4G: Bands 38/39/40/41
LTE CA/ 4G+:
B1+B3, B39+B41, B39C, B40C, B41+B41, B41C，B38C
American Model (A3000)
FDD-LTE: Bands 1/2/4/5/7/8/12/17/30
LTE CA/ 4G+:
B2+B12, B2+B17, B4+B7, B4+B17, B12+B30,B2+B2, B2C, B4+B4, B4+B12, B4+B5, B2+B5

Ok. I ended up buying the EU-version as I found one that was just $40 more expensive.
Many thanks for making this more understandable guys! *thumbs up*

Question Difference Between Versions

Hello All,
I do often travel around the world. Thats the reason why i choose the OnePlus Nord CE model (the Website promote to support a lot of LTE Bands).
Now I read, that OnePlus disable some LTE Bands for the area outside you live.
I've the EB13BA (EU) model.
Which LTE Bands are supported with that model?
Is it possible to unlock the other Bands?
Will the install of the Global Firmware, unlock the LTE Bands?
Thank you an best regards.

timbach12 said:
Hello All,
I do often travel around the world. Thats the reason why i choose the OnePlus Nord CE model (the Website promote to support a lot of LTE Bands).
Now I read, that OnePlus disable some LTE Bands for the area outside you live.
I've the EB13BA (EU) model.
Which LTE Bands are supported with that model?
Is it possible to unlock the other Bands?
Will the install of the Global Firmware, unlock the LTE Bands?
Thank you an best regards.
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A prepaid SIM such as "SIM2Fly", which is used temporarily when traveling, will probably work fine.
By the way, my "EB13AA" is
Gsm: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
Wcdma: v1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE-FDD: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26/28/66
LTE-TDD: B38/39/40/41
The number of bands is very wide, so the question is probably whether you need "VoLTE" or not.
For Japanese carrier SIMs, many are "VoLTE", so this phone without it enabled will be a Wi-fi only device.
In fact I have been working on that problem for a very long time, and I was able to turn it on only when the OS was "11.0.1.1.EB13AA", but all later OSes were impossible.
There is a bias in the OS files available, and "11.0.1.1.EB13AA" is not currently available on the Internet.

hy, thank you for your reply. I downloaded the 11.0.1.1.EB13AA version on the OnePlus site. But im not sure if it will unlock other LTE Bands. As i say i have the European and not the Global version. Is there a diffrent between a travel SIM and a native SIM?

timbach12 said:
hy, thank you for your reply. I downloaded the 11.0.1.1.EB13AA version on the OnePlus site. But im not sure if it will unlock other LTE Bands. As i say i have the European and not the Global version. Is there a diffrent between a travel SIM and a native SIM?
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In most cases, a travel SIM can be plugged into a device to get a signal and use it.
I don't know the specifics of the SIM, but the travel SIM should cover the common LTE bands.
And
OnePlus will disable some LTE bands in the area outside where you live.
Even if this is true, it should not disable common LTE bands in the world, such as B3/B20.
This is mostly speculation, but I hope it helps.
If you are unsure, it is fun to flash globalROM boldly.