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Hi all,
First up, I have been running 3rd party ROMs on my old Sony Z2 for years (TWRP with Cyanogen then LineageOS).
So i'm semi-experienced with running other ROMs.
I have a Mi 9 global currently running the latest stable official Global MIUI.
The bloat and calling-home by the Xiaomi stock apps is ridiculous, so want off ASAP.
Ideally I'm after a very lightweight, stripped down version of Android with OpenGApps Pico (or equiv).
All hardware working would be a bonus (losing IR and NFC isnt a deal-breaker. Need BT working though).
So what would you guys recommend I run?
Thanks in advance
xiaomi.eu
I bought my mi 9 before 1 week and yesterday I unlocked the bootloader and installed Xiaomi eu , I'm very happy with it and i got 9h of Screen Time on.
I'm in same position as the OP. Waiting 6 more days before I can unlock and also keeping a close eye on the stability of Pixel Experience rom. Currently using it on a Samsung S7 so that will be my first choice.
Xiaomi.eu or Revolution OS are both great Miui roms.
Pixel Experience isn't stable enough for you I guess. But in future it will.
hello friends I have a problem when I unlock my 9 install the twrp that says on the page xiaomi.eu and I liked the rom and wanting to update to 9.6.13 try to enter the twrp and I can not appear the black screen and restart to the rom that I currently have from xiaomi.eu 9.6.5 someone can help me.
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hello friends I have a problem when I unlock my 9 install the twrp that says on the page xiaomi.eu and I liked the rom and wanting to update to 9.6.13 try to enter the twrp and I can not appear the black screen and restart to the rom that I currently have from xiaomi.eu 9.6.5 someone can help me.
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I replied to your other post.
Revolution OS > xiaomi.eu (if you don't like constant Softwareupdates - in case you debloat one of those & install magisk mods).
I don't say xiaomi.eu is bad, but I'd prefere to not update my smartphone unnecessarily ("never thouch a running system").
MWPau said:
Hi all,
First up, I have been running 3rd party ROMs on my old Sony Z2 for years (TWRP with Cyanogen then LineageOS).
So i'm semi-experienced with running other ROMs.
I have a Mi 9 global currently running the latest stable official Global MIUI.
The bloat and calling-home by the Xiaomi stock apps is ridiculous, so want off ASAP.
Ideally I'm after a very lightweight, stripped down version of Android with OpenGApps Pico (or equiv).
All hardware working would be a bonus (losing IR and NFC isnt a deal-breaker. Need BT working though).
So what would you guys recommend I run?
Thanks in advance
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Try Globe Rom, it can be customized by you. You'll like it ?
Do xiaomi.eu and revolution os have widevine l1?
Hey guys!
I'm a very recent owner of Mi 9T Pro (less than 24h remaining until unlock becomes available). I'm also a recent consumer (if that's the right word for it) in the custom ROM scene. About a week ago I decided to check out LineageOS 16.0 on my old (Android 4.4.2) phone, and I was blown away by the performance improvement. It really gave my old device a second wind.
So when it comes to my new Mi 9T Pro, the long term strategy is almost certainly to install the official version of LineageOS 17.0 as soon as it becomes available (if at all and boy do I hope it does). However, since the official release might be (as I understand) several months away, it leaves me with a time window to use some other ROM until then. I've checked out LineageOS 16, 17, HavocOS 2.8, 3.0 & Pixel Experience ROM threads in this forum. It appears they all have some or other issues.
And this is where I was hoping to get a suggestion from you guys. What I'm interested in is the most stable ROM currently available for this phone. To be more clear, I'll illustrate what I mean by "stable":
1) Novelty not required.
It doesn't have to be Android 10 necessarily. Stability > novelty.
2) Most commonly used features take precedence.
I would certainly prefer a lag-less UI and no issues with signal reception over working NFC and Bluetooth audio (all 4 issues seem to appear with some regularity in mentioned threads).
Well, that's basically it, I hope you get the gist of it. If not I'll be glad to clarify further.
Just to be clear, I'm really not looking for a perfect solution where there is none. Just the least painful one. MIUI is not an option.
Thank you!
P.S. Sorry if this is a dup. I only managed to find a handful of outdated questions (~2 months old) which had very little engagement to begin with.
I use crDroid 5.8 (5.9 build does not work with global fw &vendor) and all the android 10 ROMs besides LOS 17 have broken NFC and BT .. And los 17 is also not perfect. Slows down after a while. We just have to wait till every K20 Pro / Mi 9T Pro version gets stable MIUI 11. Right now android 10 is not daily drive ready.
I'm using Résurrection Remix with the same build for over 2 month (the last one), and i dont have any bug.
I'm dtarting to have some troubleshootings after 2-3 weeks and it only require to restart to get fixed.
Also i'm not a big user of the phone so at the end of the day there is 70% battery left!
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I use crDroid 5.8 (5.9 build does not work with global fw &vendor) and all the android 10 ROMs besides LOS 17 have broken NFC and BT .. And los 17 is also not perfect. Slows down after a while. We just have to wait till every K20 Pro / Mi 9T Pro version gets stable MIUI 11. Right now android 10 is not daily drive ready.
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First of all, thank you for your input!
But what about Android 9 based ROMs like LOS16, Havoc-OS 2.8, Pixel Experience etc.? Wouldn't they be more stable based on the fact that Android 9 was already out (for quite some time) when K20 Pro was released? And also because the developers have simply had more time to iron out the issues?
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Hey guys!
I'm a very recent owner of Mi 9T Pro (less than 24h remaining until unlock becomes available). I'm also a recent consumer (if that's the right word for it) in the custom ROM scene. About a week ago I decided to check out LineageOS 16.0 on my old (Android 4.4.2) phone, and I was blown away by the performance improvement. It really gave my old device a second wind.
So when it comes to my new Mi 9T Pro, the long term strategy is almost certainly to install the official version of LineageOS 17.0 as soon as it becomes available (if at all and boy do I hope it does). However, since the official release might be (as I understand) several months away, it leaves me with a time window to use some other ROM until then. I've checked out LineageOS 16, 17, HavocOS 2.8, 3.0 & Pixel Experience ROM threads in this forum. It appears they all have some or other issues.
And this is where I was hoping to get a suggestion from you guys. What I'm interested in is the most stable ROM currently available for this phone. To be more clear, I'll illustrate what I mean by "stable":
1) Novelty not required.
It doesn't have to be Android 10 necessarily. Stability > novelty.
2) Most commonly used features take precedence.
I would certainly prefer a lag-less UI and no issues with signal reception over working NFC and Bluetooth audio (all 4 issues seem to appear with some regularity in mentioned threads).
Well, that's basically it, I hope you get the gist of it. If not I'll be glad to clarify further.
Just to be clear, I'm really not looking for a perfect solution where there is none. Just the least painful one. MIUI is not an option.
Thank you!
P.S. Sorry if this is a dup. I only managed to find a handful of outdated questions (~2 months old) which had very little engagement to begin with.
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I have basically tried every rom there is on this forum, and multiple vendors, roms later, i can suggest that EvolutionX, Pixel experience plus (pie are both pretty stable. But they have minor issues. Definitely daily driver material.
But! in my suggestion, if you could stick to a debloated MIUI. It would be hassle free.
Pros for using the stock rom.
Fingerprint sensor works faster
Doesn't break safetynet, so.. google pay support.
widevine L1 in other cases.
And most importantly, the camera functionality doesnt break
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I have basically tried every rom there is on this forum, and multiple vendors, roms later, i can suggest that EvolutionX, Pixel experience plus (pie are both pretty stable. But they have minor issues. Definitely daily driver material.
But! in my suggestion, if you could stick to a debloated MIUI. It would be hassle free.
Pros for using the stock rom.
Fingerprint sensor works faster
Doesn't break safetynet, so.. google pay support.
widevine L1 in other cases.
And most importantly, the camera functionality doesnt break
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Thank you very much for your (somewhat unexpected) suggestion!
To be honest, I hadn't really considered debloating, but I will most certainly look into it. Are there some preferred debloating solutions out there?
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Thank you very much for your (somewhat unexpected) suggestion!
To be honest, I hadn't really considered debloating, but I will most certainly look into it. Are there some preferred debloating solutions out there?
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Follow the steps in the Removing Bloatwares in Locked/Unlocked Bootloader part of the first post in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/how-to/redmi-k20-pro-firmware-10-3-8-0-9-6-13-t3939647
True, MIUI has way faster and better fingerprint recognition than all custom roms. Sadly I hate MIUI look and feel...
If you want to give MIUI a try, install the xiaomi eu ROM, which is pretty clean and without much preinstalled stuff.
Best is not to use the custom ROMs with ALL the features, since those ROMs are more laggy and buggy.
So if custom ROMs, try android 9 based. I will flash android 10 again only after 2-3 builds which use MIUI 11 firmware and vendor, since I do have a global K20 Pro/ Mi 9T Pro and don't want to lose DRM L1 or NFC by flashing IN or CN fw and vendor. Because most android 10 ROMs require MIUI 10 android 10 fw and vendor (and there is no global MIUI 10 android 10 fw & vendor)
So depends after all, how much you hate MIUI.
I flashed a custom ROM because of the following things
clean stock UI
no gapps
better everyday performance
aman2125 said:
I have basically tried every rom there is on this forum, and multiple vendors, roms later, i can suggest that EvolutionX, Pixel experience plus (pie are both pretty stable. But they have minor issues. Definitely daily driver material.
But! in my suggestion, if you could stick to a debloated MIUI. It would be hassle free.
Pros for using the stock rom.
Fingerprint sensor works faster
Doesn't break safetynet, so.. google pay support.
widevine L1 in other cases.
And most importantly, the camera functionality doesnt break
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How to flash Evolution X on Mi 9T pro??? Steps pls everytime i get a black screen
I also suggest evolution x over pixel experience.
But if you unlock bootloader and install magisk here are modules for debloat https://forum.xda-developers.com/ap...-debloater-t3821971/post80724849#post80724849 this full&full plus, debloat all even miui launcher and you got phone with pixel launcher .
Baravan Kurdish said:
How to flash Evolution X on Mi 9T pro??? Steps pls everytime i get a black screen
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So.. the simple trick is to flash chinese vendor miui 10.3.16..
Mine in an indian unit.. and flashing any vendor except the chinese one gives me some sort of error or bootloop..
So.. my process is..
1- unlock bootloader
2-flash recovery (orangefox or twrp)
3- boot into revovery
4-wipe system
5- flash vendor
6- flash rom (gapps if necessary)
7- wipe cache
8- reboot
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So.. the simple trick is to flash chinese vendor miui 10.3.16..
Mine in an indian unit.. and flashing any vendor except the chinese one gives me some sort of error or bootloop..
So.. my process is..
1- unlock bootloader
2-flash recovery (orangefox or twrp)
3- boot into revovery
4-wipe system
5- flash vendor
6- flash rom (gapps if necessary)
7- wipe cache
8- reboot
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So for global what firmware you recommend me to use? And also is dfe needed everytime? If it's possible i want to contact you maybe on telegram if i stuck somwhere, Thanks
Baravan Kurdish said:
So for global what firmware you recommend me to use? And also is dfe needed everytime? If it's possible i want to contact you maybe on telegram if i stuck somwhere, Thanks
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I guess so.. and sorry brother.. i dont use telegram..
I'd suggest you stick to global vendor..
If it doesn't work, then try chinese..
Widevine is not an issue for me.. but you might stream HD content.. so.. look into it..
And i forgot to mention... Always format data before rebooting.. format data is different from wipe data.. keep that in mind..
You should stick to the process.. it should go flawlessly..
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I guess so.. and sorry brother.. i dont use telegram..
I'd suggest you stick to global vendor..
If it doesn't work, then try chinese..
Widevine is not an issue for me.. but you might stream HD content.. so.. look into it..
And i forgot to mention... Always format data before rebooting.. format data is different from wipe data.. keep that in mind..
You should stick to the process.. it should go flawlessly..
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So when i flash firmware and rom before i restart i should format data? And can you tell me which vendor do i use for global for Q roms and which one for Pie roms that would be helpful
Hello guys, I have a brand new mi9tpro with global rom and even though it works great, i cant stand all the google and mi bloatware so i wanted to flash another rom (miui or non miui)
The question is, do i lose something if a flash a custom rom? Let's say for example some quality on the camera or stuff like that.
I come from samsung where non samsung roms had to use generic drivers and thus the camera quality was horrible in comparison, and I dont want the same happening with this phone now, so i'd only flash a non miui based rom if the quality and functionalities remain exactly the same.
Thanks in advance!
Facuu said:
Hello guys, I have a brand new mi9tpro with global rom and even though it works great, i cant stand all the google and mi bloatware so i wanted to flash another rom (miui or non miui)
The question is, do i lose something if a flash a custom rom? Let's say for example some quality on the camera or stuff like that.
I come from samsung where non samsung roms had to use generic drivers and thus the camera quality was horrible in comparison, and I dont want the same happening with this phone now, so i'd only flash a non miui based rom if the quality and functionalities remain exactly the same.
Thanks in advance!
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My Mi 9T Pro is now under the latest beta from xiaomi.eu. Although it may be similar to stock ROM, I have frozen 69 apps (what you refer as google and bloatware).
I have tried a few smaller custom ROMs and most gave me bootloops probably because I did not install gapps. Why would I want to leave a nicely working xiaomi.eu beta ROM for something else which requires gapps and has more bugs ?
Miui.eu miui custom rom: No downsides.
AOSP based custom rom: Less battery life, instability, worse navigation gestures, most likely bootloops if you do something wrong.
Currently I'd stick to miui.eu until our device stops getting official updates. And even a year or so after that. I am a big fan of AOSP software, but it's just not as good for our device.
This all depends on personal preference and philosophy.
Some people prefer to follow the engineering prime directive: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
You do say the device is working great, so...
The other school follows the concept of: "if it ain't broke, tweak it until it is".
and you do say you can't stand it, so maybe you belong to the second group.
Then clearly a custom rom is the only alternative you have.
Some ROMs are pretty stable and contrary to the opinion of the previous comment, users report equal or better battery life.
The only 3 real complaints I have heard about are a. the fingerprint sensor performance (and even then reports vary widely), b. lack of OTA and problems with dirty flashing, and c. no android auto support.
Camera is same or better with ANX or Gcam.
True, the fact there were 4, now 3, different firmwares and SKUs greatly hurt and slowed down development and testing for this device, and also the timing with the release of Android10,
but some official releases exist and custom ROMs are slowly getting there.
If you really can't stand google, I recommend you to check out LineageOS or SyberiaOS with MicroG.
It will take fiddling, reading online and troubleshooting, but other than time it costs you nothing.
Worst case, you can always go back to Miui.
In another thread an XDA Recognized Developer has a PC program that makes it simple to disable MIUI and Google bloatware. You might want to try that before resorting to flashing a custom ROM.
Despite what people here say I've tried MIUI.EU on previous Xiaomi phones and always found even the supposedly stable builds to be buggy.
REV OS is a much more stable MIUI based ROM. Unlike MIUI.EU the devs for REV OS extensively test every build for bugs before releasing them to users.
I loved REV OS on my MI 9 but have stuck to stock MIUI on my MI 9T Pro so far. I did do some debloating using the program I mentioned.
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If you are new to Xiaomi you should read up on the bootloader unlock process which seems to drive many people crazy.
>Disadvantages of flashing custom rom?
Flashing drivers manually is a major pain in the ass for me. These days OTA from custom ROMs are seemless and automatic. Otherwise it used to be another major problem with it. Another problem might be you might brick your phone. Another major problem is that none of the custom ROMs for this device are perfect and bug free. I am only sticking with MIUI for this specific reason.
jhs39 said:
In another thread an XDA Recognized Developer has a PC program that makes it simple to disable MIUI and Google bloatware. You might want to try that before resorting to flashing a custom ROM.
Despite what people here say I've tried MIUI.EU on previous Xiaomi phones and always found even the supposedly stable builds to be buggy.
REV OS is a much more stable MIUI based ROM. Unlike MIUI.EU the devs for REV OS extensively test every build for bugs before releasing them to users.
I loved REV OS on my MI 9 but have stuck to stock MIUI on my MI 9T Pro so far. I did do some debloating using the program I mentioned.
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If you are new to Xiaomi you should read up on the bootloader unlock process which seems to drive many people crazy.
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I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
Lethalben said:
I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
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I agree, Revos is a very good stable MIUI ROM. Never found an issue with it, and there default kernel is good (on Pocophone F1).
Lethalben said:
I've installed REV Os and it seems a good rom like miui.eu or mi globe or mmx.
No bug with miui stock or custom.
Are you ok to build a rom section in this forum with REV Os?
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I don't think the devs of REV OS want their ROM on XDA. Many devs soured on XDA and stopped maintaining ROM threads here.
At this point most of the ROMs on XDA are either unofficial or are threads that aren't created, maintained or supported by the Devs actually responsible for the ROMs.
And part of the user agreement for most ROMs that maintain their own website is that you are forbidden from creating any external links for those ROMs.
Hello everyone I would like to ask a few questions and know your opinion on the different stock versions of the redmi note 10 pro which one would advise me. which would be the most stable with the fewest bugs. I ask you this because I am afraid to reinstall twrp having already bricked my phone once. I had to go through unbrick.ru it's expensive for a simple unlocking I want to say
Indonesian version with long temporary update and stable, but now i stick with miui Pulse.
As long as you thoroughly follow a up-to-date, precise guide on how to flash TWRP and then flash a new ROM, you should be good. Just don't do something tricky with your phone if you have a doubt and that you don't know. Stock MIUI ROMs are, in my opinion, not as good as Xiaomi.eu ROMs or AOSP based ROMs. You'll have to debloat everything, there'll be ads in system apps and less features (depends on the region). Really, you should try flashing TWRP and use Xiaomi.eu. Moreover, a "brick" can in most cases be solved because, if a ROM flash doesn't work as it should, or even something else, you still have your TWRP to fix your phone.
(of course, don't do it if you know you're not attentive enough and that you won't be following guides steps minutely)
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As long as you thoroughly follow a up-to-date, precise guide on how to flash TWRP and then flash a new ROM, you should be good. Just don't do something tricky with your phone if you have a doubt and that you don't know. Stock MIUI ROMs are, in my opinion, not as good as Xiaomi.eu ROMs or AOSP based ROMs. You'll have to debloat everything, there'll be ads in system apps and less features (depends on the region). Really, you should try flashing TWRP and use Xiaomi.eu. Moreover, a "brick" can in most cases be solved because, if a ROM flash doesn't work as it should, or even something else, you still have your TWRP to fix your phone.
(of course, don't do it if you know you're not attentive enough and that you won't be following guides steps minutely)
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how did you get miui pulse on redmi note 10 pro ?
Miui 13 said:
how did you get miui pulse on redmi note 10 pro ?
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I didn't lol
Miui 13 said:
how did you get miui pulse on redmi note 10 pro ?
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MIUI Pulse 12.5 Sweet - Google Drive
Thanks for providing information
Miui 13 said:
Hello everyone I would like to ask a few questions and know your opinion on the different stock versions of the redmi note 10 pro which one would advise me. which would be the most stable with the fewest bugs. I ask you this because I am afraid to reinstall twrp having already bricked my phone once. I had to go through unbrick.ru it's expensive for a simple unlocking I want to say
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MIUI 12.5.1 is great in my point of view and very easy to operate.
Hello,
after two month of normal using without any experiments or flashing / rooting my Redmi Note 11 stuck in an endless bootloop similar as descriped here: Xiaomi Note 11 stuck to rebooting into recovery mode 5.0 after unlocking the screen
I was not able to do any recovery so I ended up to wipe all data and now the phone is booting normal and can be used again.
But befor I'm going to start setting up my phone again from the scratch (because Google backup did not work) I would prefer to use a custom rom without all of these ****ty MUI apps like cloud, video and pdf viewer and round about 7 billion other apps which are anoying me with endless popup messages and registration requests.
This will be my first try to install a custom rom but I already found this tutorial: [GUIDE] How To Install A Custom Rom On Redmi Note 11
First of all thanks for the work of this tutorial I think this will help me doing the first steps.
So here is the question:
Is there any working stock Android 13 custom rom for the Redmi Note 11 without any unneccessary extra stuff?
seems that crDroid could be close to what I want: [ROM][OFFICIAL][12.1-13.0] crDroidAndroid 8.x - 9.x [SPES|SPESN]
what would you suggest to me?
thanks and regards
Stefan
Hi Stefen,
Seeing as how long it has taken Xiaomi to get Android 12 to our devices via OTA, and even there it appears most have STILL not recieved A12 via ota and have had to force the update...
It's unlikely we'll see Android 13 / A13 anytime soon.... I reckon we won't see stock Android 13 for at least another year or more...
Not to say we won't get it, as our devices are supposedly supported to A13 and Miui 14.... but based on timescales, we're a long way off yet...
Cheers, Lister
ah ok, thanks for the clarification. I thought Android 13 is possible yet.
So I guess the right question is: is there a clean stock Android 12 for the phone?
Hi Stefan,
No probs, depends on you're build of current official stock rom. The easiest way to find out, is download the Miui Downloader from PlayStore.
Then head to this page, and find the appropriate rom for your current rom.
This Windows app, will also help you find what you need....
Thanks, Lister
I think the xiaomi.eu roms are debloated but it's still miui
thomas1991_12 said:
I think the xiaomi.eu roms are debloated but it's still miui
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Xiaomi.eu performs better than stock MIUI but worse than AOSP custom ROMs. Based on my experience with 13.0,5, it took almost a minute to boot whereas with Evo X 13 and PE+13, it boots half a minute
Can you use stock camera with AOSP roms?
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Can you use stock camera with AOSP roms?
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not yet, there develops and mods, but not completly functional